/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Who’s uko again? I only know salompas and that blonde girl who matsuri has the hots for

No nigger, we're in "meltdown" because you numberniggers are bragging about reporting NijiEN streams like the literal dindus that you are.

>>25841219
Good. Fuck the main thread and fuck the male vtubers.

>>25841307
>>25840361
>The elite shock troops of /hlg/
KEK

>>25841219
>>25841307
Why are Holobronies like this? First viewbotting Millie and now this. And they'll always play victim afterwards, too.

But Disney doesn't take down videos they just steal the money. Happened to my oshi.

>>25841219
Qrd what did he do? Posting copyrighted content?

>>25841377
NIJICOEP LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>25841219
dont know who that is, but good job nonetheless. have a drink before you go.

>>25841575
You should've played the
>We dindu nuffin
card like always. This is just an implicit admission that you Holobronies are organizing raids against Nijisanji talents.

>>25841307
But on what claims did they report the video?
If they were legitimate there is nothing we can do. Btw i don't know anything as i am not infront of my pc rn

>>25841575
that's old, anon, we're using this one now
## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

>>25841610
Raids about talents
>The countless zang attacks on holo streams when fubuki is involved with En
>Shitting up the thread and twitter with count less IRyS collabing with male threads
>Using council art tags to post your zang.
And let me guess all of them were holobormies, right?

>>25841219
Good job comrade.
Until the next report.

>>25841655
Looks like absolute shit, a mess of links to dead threads and too hard to read

>>25841705
Yea

>>25841705
Even assuming all of those were done by le Nijinigger boogeyman (of which the last point in particular is extremely unlikely seeing as the same is currently happening to Pomu) it wouldn't change the fact that you're now organizing raids under the pretense that it's "okay because they do it". Literal nigger behavior.

>>25841219
good, the main thread sucks

>>25841778
Firstly, no i don't think we have that much free time to organize discord raids. And unlike what happened with Pomu, there is actual proof that the council tags were raided by zangs. If you don't believe me go see it for yourself.
And i don't even know the situation yet that happenes with Uki. All i know is that Disney striked his content

>>25841307
>>25841377
>>25841575
>>25841610
>>25841655
>>25841705
>>25841778

Uki uki please Cuck me!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!111111111!

>>25841307
oh no he mad

>>25841996
Feels like an all out war

>>25841975
>Unlike what happened with Pomu
The post in her tag link directly to Bilibili. To begin with I think the assumption that all Zhangs operate under the orders of a Japanese company is asinine, but I'll let you have that one.
It still doesn't change the fact that /#/ Holofags have been frequently organizing raids against Nijisanji talents. Yes, you clearly do have that much free time, especially since your ilk is stalking Niji threads for a reaction and bragging about it after.

>>25841307
Not my problem.

>>25841996
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>>25841975
>And unlike what happened with Pomu, there is actual proof that the council tags were raided by zangs. If you don't believe me go see it for yourself.
The same bilibili comic spam and fake twitter bots responding to the spam that happened to Council is happening to both Elira and Pomu's art tags now. It's literally the same, even some of the comics they spammed are the same.

I'm glad this loser keeps saying holobronies it makes it really easy to ignore his posts

>>25842046
Alright name one instance when it happened then.
All i know is this one and the Pomu botting stream which were done by number niggers and there is no proof that the number niggers are Hololive fans. They could very well be just Niji antis anon who belong to i don't know, maybe vshojo, voms or maybe Indie enjoyers

>>25842161
>Alright name one instance when it happened then
When Luca was discovered to have used Okayu and Towa's BGM in some of his streams. It's very obvious who got angry about that and who reported his streams en masse + made organized efforts to whistleblow. They also spammed his comments about it, and through a quick look in their chat history - who'dve thunk it, Hololive fans.

I want to lay eggs inside all the Noctyx boys

>>25841737
use archives

>>25842232
>no mention of proof that Hololive fans are the ones doing any botting
Jej

>>25842232
Well firstly it was Luca who was in the wrong sweety, wasn't he?
And from what i saw, they were just malding over Towa's twitter post. Barely anyone attacked Luca in his YouTube account or attacked his twitter.
Secondly no, the stream was made private by the management. I know all this because Luca is the one Niji en member alongside Rosemii that i watch on a daily basis and enjoy. And there was literally close to no backlash on YouTube sweety. People were infact saying how shit the Japanese copyright system is and saying how jo corpos suck for the most part

>>25842292
We were talking about organized raids, I gave you an example of one. Goalpost move all you like, we all know who seethes the most at Nijisanji on this board.
>>25842321
>We didn't do anything
>And when we DO do something, they deserved it
Every time.

>>25841655
>>25841575
Holy mother of schizophrenia actually keeping copypastas and track of every reply. This is beyond rent free now

>>25842321
And if this is what happened with Uki, meaning he was striked because he was using the Disney music then again, it is Uki's fault anon. I don't know what happened so i won't pretend to know shit but if this is what happened all your arguments are null and void

>>25842377
Are you fucking brain dead or something anon?
It was clearly Luca's fault there. There is no denying that and no there was barley any clash unless you count 4chan. A literal nothing burger

>>25842434
Anon, i say this as a niji watcher. Stop replying to obvious baits

>>25842434
Yes, you dindu nuffin, you was good boys.

>>25842397
He didn't get striked, he left the karaoke up to see what would happen. It looks like staff just privated it though.

>>25842482
Ok this is actually stupid. Why will he do that?
Is his channel not important for him?

>>25842232
I don't know, I think it's quite reasonable for them to get mad about literally stealing content produced for another chuuba, regardless of who it is
Getting offended on behalf of a massive corporation, on the other hand, is retarded

>>25842482
>he left the karaoke up to see what would happen
As an ignorant holofag who's hearing of all this for the first time here in this thread, did he say why? Sounds absolutely retarded for any corpo chuuba to do something like that.

>>25842521
I guess he cared more about wanting more people to see the karaoke, than about what a strike would do to him.

>>25842467
nijisea niggers hould be banned
>>25842538
That's the catch anon, barely anyone attacked Luca for that. Infact it was the management which privated his streams

>>25842549
It's because he's absolutely retarded, anon
Someone at anycolor noticed and now it's privated

>>25842603
>barely anyone attacked Luca for that
PFFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>25842549
https://youtu.be/O3Trxolr4lM?t=286

> What I'll do is, I'll try and leave the VOD up, and hopefully it doesn't get striked.
> If it does, I'll have to remove it, but we'll see how long I can keep it around for.
> Hopefully I can, yeah.
> We'll see how long it lasts before Youtube or Disney gets upset with me and they're like "Please remove this video".
> It should be okay, um. I'm gonna be turning adsense and stuff off, so at least when it's up it's not gonna gain any ad revenue.
> But yeah, I'm gonna try. Susan please don't come for us.

>>25842563
There is a thing called rebroadcast anon. Are niji en lovers this stupid?

>>25841219
Holospy
bring me your strongest rrats

>>25842621
Acting like a retard doesn't change the history anon.

>>25842642
Rebroadcast is technically skirting the rules as well, as it's no longer a live performance, but nobody really cares

>>25842631
Is he not aware that since they're using brand channels they're using a shared pool of copyright strikes
That could have counted against the whole of NijiEN or maybe even the whole of Nijisanji depending on how they have everything structured

>>25841376

>>25842631
Where do they find these boys? I thought only chuuba women and anons were capable of this level of retardation and self-harm.

>>25842698
Technically it's fine, the issue they have is that jasrac allows them to easy access to Karaoke permissions, but not watch on demand permissions, so as long as it isn't VoD it's technically within the permissions they have

>>25841307

The codex astartes supports this action.

>>25841631
copyright, mainly

>>25842730
If this was true, Gundou's 2 strikes, Masaru's strike, and Mashiro's strike would be enough to kill JP and yet...

>>25842990
They don't last forever, the copyright holder can agree to withdraw them or they go away on their own after 30 days

Do you guys really seethe this much over karaoke numbers? But why idgi

>>25843057
What were the numbers again

>>25843057
I don't think anyone even mentioned numbers until people realized that he was retarded enough to paint a gigantic target on himself for one the most vindictive companies regarding copyright..
for the lulz

>>25843236
>realized
So they watched him? But he's so gay.

>>25841575
nigga what about you just watch the vtubers because they're entertaining

>>25843505
nijiseethe

>>25841219
Sasuga naaaaaa peko

>>25843530
I love ogayu anon

The Nijiniggers are chinese double agents. Run them over.

>>25841996
ah, the nijinigger cycle of violence

It really kicks ass how this board is just explicitly being used for off-site raiding and personal army shit now and the mods are totally indifferent to it.

>>25844447
the mods don't exist to protect your fragile ass nijikek

>>25843764
You are supposed to put two different pictures

>>25844449
1 yab a week holy shit

>>25843505
Sorry, I'm too busy shitposting about vtubers to actually watch them.

>>25843557

>>25841219
Based SPY x Family

>>25841975
>no i don't think we have that much free time
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
The thing you holofags have the most is free time

>>25843263
/#/fags would monitor straight up gayporn if there's big numbers attached to it

>>25841307
Revenge for Mio

Does the /holonumbers/ thread seethe because of this?

Just because Uki's karaoke was more popular than Kiara's and Mori's off-collab karaoke?

Is that all it takes to mindbreak them?

>>25844447
This whole board was a mistake.
The sooner it is deleted and vtuber discussion banned sitewide would be an objective good.
Rangebans on new threads and images, and 1 hour cooldown, for even posting about them.
Mods have shown they are incapable of getting their shit together for a almost decade and a half since moot kicked Snacks out, the only cunt that done things right.
It'd only be in Hiros interest to kill this board. Sooner or later Cover or Anykara are going to come after this shitheap and then it will be his problem.

>>25841307
Good. Death to Niji