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>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Is fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?
>Music
What kind of musical instruments/music does your nation make/use?
>Name
Does your thread's nation have any naming conventions? What are people named, and why? Do names have meaning? Do people have surnames, and how are those derived?
>Politics (Since no one objected for more than 2 threads, it's a regular prompt now)
How does the balance of power look in your nation? who are the ruling/most powerful class? Who are they competing with?

ABANDON STARFLEET HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON PROTOCOL HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON YOUR GENETIC PURITY HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
ABANDON SCIENCE HAVE SEX WITH SQUIRRELS
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Can I get a quick rundown on this shit?

>>25727990
Tl;dr is that we are trying to create a low fantasy world loosely based on the generals of /vt/. Lore can include memes from the chuuba, their overall community, as well as how anons in their respective generals usually act as, with as much other stuff sprinkled in as need be.

>>25727707
Hey squirrel friend, I just realized, but /nasa/ in general should be 100% sterile when it comes to having sex with locals, unless some really unlikely shit happened. We are from the other part of the galaxy originally. So if those /meat/ tattoos make us std proof as well, you won't ever need to use a condom with us.

>>25728187
unprotected sex is best sex. also risuners don't know wtf condoms are.

>>25728408
They are like animal skin waterbags but for nuts! You use it to collect nuts, then tie them on a belt or other items of clothing, and you can enjoy them whenever you like! Neat, aren't they?

>>25728541
sounds neat!

>>25727990
We're on our way to create an autism singularity. Are you in?

>>25728408
speaking of unprotected sex i wonder where roseanon and the chick from nijiEN are? nijiEN girl havent seen in a while so wonder if they still here and roseanon i saw earlier in my dream last night i saw that they were upset that nobody was helping them so i gave them cuddles and raw cock

After a millennium, the old concord is still honored. The realm's undisputed champions reunite. Will it bring unity, or destruction?

the sticky notes say finish /meat/ story. I obey the sticky notes

>>25727196
>>25707300
forgot to ask for an anchor nanora

>>25730978
funny i got the same sticky note, guess i now have to incluse risuners in the story

fuck me though. trying to wake up is pain. also watching luna play henry stickmin is admitfully really fucking cute!

>>25733144
Been meaning to say this for a while, but you guys got yourself a damn good oshi. Caught her C&C stream yesterday, it was a pretty good way to pass the time.

2 questions for the meatheads. Why did you guys want your own version of risuners? And what do you primarily want from /risu/ as trading partners

>>25733783
she can be pretty confused at times but she is trying hard and so far has overcome any challenge thrown her way!!!

hope you also joined the zatsu stream that followed the CnC one, it was super comfy and fun, she even played a bit of OG rogue

>>25733144
you use sticky notes to remember shit too? kek

>>25734278
my shop used to have red sticky notes we coudl write prices on if we wanted to put somethign on sale manually but by now the way we do that has changed and so we had no use for the old stickys and i just took them home and use them for myself, basicly got a lifelong supply thanks to that

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>>25734892
WARanon is just waiting for the tri fleet to engage the hoomans so patiently. Man has waited a long time.

Alright gents. meat story will be done once i get those 2 questions answered, or i could guess myself since i have a pretty good idea. In the meantime i got the big fleet which will be moving along and lets see. nasfaqg, luna ch5, vrt. oi thats a lotta sticky notes

>>25729814
The spiritual energies generated by this Heavenly event may agitate schizos, but the goddesses are growing stronger.

>>25735207
Take your time Risuner. The largest, tastiest nuts take time to roast.

>>25734991
Engage in the peaceful sense, I hope?
Please do not underestimate our coastal defenses

if any /meat/heads are around, would a merchant speaking to people form an alley and then bringing them into a "secret restaurante" to give a taste testing be an appropiate way to showcase /meat/?

>>25734892
Question for you, WARanon.
Which do you think is heavier? 1 kilo of Cannon balls? Or 1 kilo of blood stained shirts?

>>25727257
Requesting >>25709444 and >>25711193 to be anchored from last thread. They didn't get anchored before thread archived.

>>25737051
Sanalite...

>>25727196
Anchoring:
>>25709444 >>25711193

>>25736234
There is iron in both cannonballs and blood, so surprisingly those are equally heavy.

>>25735891
of course. we just wanna see the magic trees. WARanon is the one that wants to see shit blown up.

>>25737645
Good. Cause those shells and cannon balls are better served to rip apart pirates and schizos rather than squishy squirrel people and their non-existent hull armor.

>>25728187
Hold on, if there's no chance of mixing the gene pools, then there's no reason for the Grand Directive to ban sex with natives, right? /nasa/ administration, please consider dropping this clause if you end up taking the compromise route.
>>25729248
I think the nijien rep mentioned she would be tied up with exams for a bit the last time she posted.

>>25737845
Condoms are not failure-free. Yes, a lot of failures are caused by improper usage but just by having sex you are still creating risks. Unless the brass can monitor and track all natives that sanalites copulated with I doubt they would relax the rule.

>t. not sanalite

>>25737845
>>25728187
We'll have to do research but we're not taking the risk just yet. If Kronies and Risuners can breed then there's a chance Sanalites can breed with natives as well.

>>25737960
But since sanalites are originally from a different dimension, they may not even be genetically compatible with us for reproduction.
Although now that I think about it, everyone on Vitubia was originally from another dimension. Maybe that's why we somehow have a shared theology; they just came from /jp/ later than the rest of us.

>>25738138
>may not even be genetically compatible with us for reproduction.
Maybe, but unless the researchers found concrete proof, I doubt it. And the rule most likely would only extend to natives that have registered with the sanalite as couples at first. All other native would have to do the sanalites with protection and take post-coital contraceptives.

>Although now that I think about it, everyone on Vitubia was originally from another dimension. Maybe that's why we somehow have a shared theology; they just came from /jp/ later than the rest of us.
Sanalites are supposed to have come from alternate Earth(or the one are on rn). /jp/ is also supposed to have Chuubanite. You can probably make it so the chuuba era was kind of a lost history thing but that's kinda dumb with too many plot holes. It does sound very funny though.

>>25738114
I volunteer for this "research".

>>25738138
>Maybe that's why we somehow have a shared theology
This isn't actually that weird when you stop to consider the fact that, in this universe, there is actual, physical proof that the gods are real.

>>25738433(me)
Errghh... Bwain no work let me rephrase
Unless researchers found solid proof that Sanalites can't reproduce with the natives, the no sex rule would still apply. In the off case that they can reproduce AND the senate approved it, then the rule likely would only extend to natives that have registered with the sanalite as couples at first(depends on how citizenship for /nasa/ work i guess). All other native would have to do the sanalites with protection and take post-coital contraceptives, since they most likely still wouldn't want to disturb the local gene pool too much or risk damaging relations with the natives.

>>25738688
There's also other risk with sex between multiple partners. STDs are obvious. There's also psychological factors like sex addiction and other things. There's a reason why /nasa/ enforces monagamous relationships. Right now we're working on a compromise. If a Sanalite wants to have sex with a native, then the native has to marry the Sanalite. Which also means the native has to naturalize into a civilian of /nasa/.

>>25738467
The research isn't that interesting. We take a DNA sample. Which is taking a swap to the inside of your mouth. Then geneticists spend months to a year analyzing the DNA. Now, /nasa/ values privacy of your DNA. The research will only be used to find genetic compatibility with reproduction. Once research is done the samples get destroyed so no other researcher can exploit them. Like making bioweapons that target a specific race like what happened in World War 3 in Terra 2027 CE.

>>25740332
I hope the Chinese go wiped out in that war

bump

What's /who/'s opinion on wingsuits?

>>25742428
Sounds pretty cool, but an F-34 sounds even better!

>>25742579
Been thinking about modifying space suits to be lighter so we can use for wingsuits. The space suits come with an air conditioner, heating, an air filter, batteries, body armor, a computer system, and radio equipment (bluetooth, WiFi, HAM, etc.). Suits also come with storage compartments for canteens and rations. Allergies do make it near impossible to live outside the station and suits though.

>>25743041
Kinda like skin tight gravity suits from those sci-fi movies, right?

>>25743641
Sort of. Still have to abide by realism. The suits will be thinner than space suits but they'll still be thick.

>>25746282
Nice, btw, this is a very important questions, are sanallites buxom on average?

>>25746341
If their cock sizes is anything to go by. The women are kinda bimbos. Even the scientist who nursed the mammoth has big tits and ass.

>>25746725
nice

Posting the flag for the ephemeral /tkmr/ microstate.

bump

>>25729248
Still here, I've just made a personal promise that I won't upload any new work until I get this /OBSY/ stuff finally banged out. It's taking a while, but hopefully I'll be able to dump a LOT of new stuff once it's done. Just the /OBSY/ lore is going to be about three rentries already.
>spoiler
My dear Risuner friend I accept the cuddles, but you may be surprised to learn that, like most of my kind, I tend to be far more dominant than I am submissive. I do not take, but give generously.

>>25753522
Risuner should have listened to my warnings.

>>25753522
Can I still bake Rosebutas cookies?

>>25753742
I suppose one should "Beware the Buhi".
>>25753787
Of course! We love cookies. Oh, and while oatmeal raisins are very divisive for Rosebutas, those who like them will absolutely kill a man for a delicious oatmeal raisin cookie.

>>25754024
I remember you were also interested in strawberry shortbread cookies as well. They're shortbread cookies with jellied strawberry on top. It seems Rosebutas like fruit cookies like oatmeal raisin and strawberry shortbread. We also will have classic chocolate chip cookies. Just remember to bring the tea.

>>25727196
Updated territories of /uuu/

>>25754918
We should really get around to naming the Elder Trees (should we even call them that?), sapling. I cant for the life of me decide on a naming convention for /uuu/ though.
Ceres and Faunus are both Latin, so I guess we could stick with that theme, maybe even branch (ha) out to some Greco-Roman names?

/nasa/ will be ready to ship ice cream sammies and diplomats by Friday or Saturday. Depending on how busy saplings are this weekend.

>>25755188
were looking forward to it sanalite; I know weve meta'd it here since /uuu/ has a map now, but do sanalites know how far they can go into the forests before things get weird, or will saplings have to come out and tell you where to stop?

>>25755661
Sanalites will arrive at the border and wait for Saplings to greet us as instructed.

>>25755144
Yes, I think a Latin naming scheme would be sufficient because of Fauna and I don't see why not we would have the Elder trees because they're the closest things we would have in terms of landmarks

>>25758260
Would each elder tree protect a wellspring? You can name the trees after the springs or vice versa?

>>25755144
>Life and Death both using latin naming inspirations
Kino

>>25758342
Ideally. They must grow the largest and the oldest for some kind of reason

>>25758415
darn it, now I need to check more /morig/ lore

>>25758473
It grew into a fun mix, there's this Japanese paintjob on everything with a subtle core of greco-roman because Mori is a white westerner obsessed with Japanese culture (+Memento Mori being latin). And geographically we're just Madagascar kek.

>>25758342
wellsprings could be a nice touch, I was just mentioning yesterday we should think about lakes and such
Darkling Mire should probably be a big marsh/swamp area around the tree
UUUing woods might have a large lake nearby
Giant's Ridge is near the mountains so it could have like a big waterfall (which would mean we need to figure out where rivers go

>>25758711
Speaking of rivers /nasa/ needs to figure out where are small rivers are. I know we have a big main river up north that's visible on the map.

>>25758711
Btw, when I thought of Sleeping Giant's Ridge, I imagined the name to be literal as the sudden elevation can be considered unusual across the usually flat terrain and this elevation is literally due to forests growing on top of a large group of Guardians that have been sleeping together for thousands of years. Just a sneakpeak into the loredump I plan on writing about the territories

>>25753522
give me your nuts generously pretty please.

but yee. until meatheads answer the 2 questions i provided ill do some other shit. i have dianas log pretty much done except for those things. so nasfaqg next and luknights. And of course in a few days update on the tri fleet now with big boy deadbeat boat.

Question for /Risu/:
Where would important foreign visitors stay during their visit to a city? What sort of building would it be, and what sort of treatment can they expect? What would be expected of them?

>>25759695
Ok thats a good one. I will say in the case of most cities and definitely the ones on the shores that visitors will have accomodations in the form of wooden motels along the beach. Risuners tend to live up in the trees and since foreigners cant climb trees like they can, it became necessary to include a ground level to risuner settlements. It wouldn't be anything too special just your basic needs. Hope visitors like fruits and nuts because risuners eat off the land aka meat will be an extreme rarity. They would be treated nicely assuming they behave of course. All foreigners are suspectible to punishment via the geese chamber if they fuck up too hard however. No exceptions for geese chamber.
A brief summary of motel rooms would be your stereotypical room with bed, drawers, windows for light, and storage areas. We use outhouses because i dont think modern toilets have yet to be invented in /risu/. Oh and as for their behavior just respect that risuners are really fucking different. Our money is nuts so deal with it. And natives of course love to exchange nuts in both food and in bodily fluids. Obviously no rape since even risuners need consent or else geese chamber. Same punishment for cheating if you commit to a risuner. No exceptions. Anything else or is there anything i missed?

>>25760132
Oh i get it now, it's geese chamber because it sounds like gas chamber

>>25759200
nice dubs
yeah that can track for sure, kinda like picrel but its calcified guardian saplings making up the cliffs

>>25760281
yes but instead of gas your eaten alive by monstrous man eating geese kek.

>>25586669
The “Honeyed Stallion” was having one of its best nights of the year. The local Lunaito regulars were at the bar, like most evenings, but there were also horned sheep people going out to celebrate the upcoming festival. More significantly, however, this bar was where much of the LABEE had elected to congregate and spend their evening. Most of the current customers were Deadbeats and their accompanying Luknights.

In the noisy basement, even a bony hand slapping an oak table repeatedly did not draw attention. “No, no, no! I’m telling you Shige, this LAB ain’t gonna be like your average goddamn Black Fleet warehouse! We gotsa castle the shit outta this, tall-ass stone walls to keepsa’ all the schizos out! Otherwhere, we’ll be overrun stat.” The admiral was laughing and laughing. “Ah, brother, you’re drunk! Either on those sexy Lunaito bricks, or on all that mead you’re chugging! You’ll see, once we’ve got good, strong frigates patrolling the ice cube sea, we won’t even need to lock the LAB’s doors, we’ll sink any pirates before they even get to look at it, har!”

The glasses rattled when Kenichi’s palms struck the bench. “Bah, I’ll be the one making those boats too, you know? Those ice cubes of yours get pretty big, I dread how much we’ll need to plate the hulls if we want ‘em to shrug off impacts.” Professor Marsh pointed an accusatory finger at the Deadbeats as he interjected: “Bah, you skeletons and your boats! Admiral, surely you remember the schizo encounter density charts I showed you! Our Arctic schizos do a bit of boating, but they’re fucking shite at it, they can’t sail to save their lives, literally! If the base got attacked, odds are it would be a land assault, coming in from our border with the devious Matsurisu, or perhaps beach walkers from /moon/. These Northern coasts are poorly guarded, everywhere in the North of the continent.”

Shige thumbed off a tear of laughter before responding. “Well, maybe we can add a crenellation or two on there, if it gets your bones so hard, hahaha.”

Gaia repressed a sigh while the middle-aged men acted out their antics. After excusing herself to get a fresh mug, she headed to the upper floor of the tavern. It seemed a bit more quiet. In the last couple of days, Gaia had felt all this expedition was doing was traveling through pretty vistas and cities, getting wasted and eating too much overly sweet food. Was this why her friends told her she hated fun?

This floor seemed a bit more her speed. The conversation was quieter, the lighting more relaxed. A sheep-like harpist was playing an ambiance tune on a small stage. Gaia hailed Suiko and Akira and joined them in a more private booth. Just as she was sitting she noticed their unusually serious expressions. “Hey gals, what’s going on?” Akira gave Suiko the side-eye before going off. “This shady-ass individual is trying to make me do her dirty work.” The agent lifted her hands in mock despair. “Oh, the humanity, I ask my good friend the professor for a little help and now I’m an evil schemer. Look, no need to be shady about it, I just want you to bring it up. I’m sure if you’re cool about it, he’ll spill some beans.” Gaia lifted an eyebrow. “Beans? What beans?” Lunaitos seemed to enjoy some bean-based dishes, but Gaia failed to see how this related to the topic.
1/3

>>25762051
Suiko gave her a rundown while Akira crossed her arms. Gaia had followed the developments of the Rushian Cataclysm closely, and with horror. Many Fandead refugees had arrived to Moriji following the event. Hounded as they were by schizos of all sorts, the Deadbeat’s island was one of the few places with both the will and the capability to keep them safe. Saiko claimed there were rumors of a new group coagulating in the ruined wasteland, but intel was lacking. However, couriers coming from that corner of the continent had entered the Campus district recently… Which Professor Marsh had visited that day.

Gaia already felt a headache coming. “Sure, fine, what’s the big deal, can’t you just ask Puffison for news of /rushia/, Suiko?” Suiko scratches her head. “Ah well, that’s just the thing, I’ve no reason to even think of talking about /rushia/ with him. He doesn’t know that I followed him to the entrance of the University, or that I pickpocketed the courier’s wallet to check where came from. It would be hella suspicious if I came to him with that.” Suiko shrugged casually, just as Gaia quietly screamed: “Y-you did what!?” Suiko dismissed her anger with a smile. “Hey, chill, don’t worry about it! I dropped the wallet near one of those patrolling Luknights, I’m sure it found its way back to him, probably thought it fell out of his pocket somehow. But ANYWAY, that’s why if ol’ reliable Akira could go chat with Puffison, she could find a way to bring up the topic naturally, right?”

Gaia was extremely annoyed, mainly because this Mori-doomed girl had a point. Lunaitos getting reports from the devastated land of the Fandead was good intel that they’d have to investigate. Their refugees from /rushia/ lived comfortably, but if their homeland was inhabitable once more, they’d probably want to be repatriated. “If the Lunaitos don’t share those reports, I guess we might not have their full trust yet. Let’s not rush into anything for now. I think Lucia would let this sit for some time before pushing any further. It’s not like our Fandead diaspora can’t wait a couple more weeks.”

A grin snaked its way onto Suiko’s face, and she chuckled. “Ah, well, if I have to get Lucia’s permission, I’ll definitely have to wait. She’s booked for the evening.” Gaia turned her head towards where Suiko was staring, and felt her cheeks flush. Lucia was seated in a dark corner, her arm on the shoulder of that one Lunaito archivist she’d been spending time with. The blue-haired lady giggled while the tall Deadbeat girl whispered something in her ear. ‘Definitely not gonna interfere with that.’ Akira calmly noted: “These two have really been getting along.”

Gaia’s forehead was now buried in her hands and said: “Is there anyone here I know, who is neither annoying, nor shady, nor getting laid?” A finger snap rang in the cubicle and Suiko offered: “I got you! The Honourable Luknights over there are certainly none of those things! Got chat with them, if you’re too good for us.”
2/3

>>25762096
Gaia stood up and headed to Citrora’s and Jaggery’s table. Fruce hailed her first. “Naaa Commander Suzuka! You still owe me that sparring match, Rear Admiral Magnus let it slip that you fight with two swords! I must see that before we get to the coast.” Gaia clasped the Luknight’s forearm while agreeing. “That we should, Lady Citrora. It’s a useful stance when outnumbered. It’s commonly taught to Deadbeats headed into schizo territories.”

Fruce and Gaia talked shop for some time while Noravera stared at the harpist. She wasn’t even playing, just chatting with some Deadbeat officer, a Junior Lieutenant, based on his uniform. “Do you enjoy the music of the Watamates, Lady Jaggery?” Gaia’s question snapped the Luknight out of her distraction.

“Ah, it’s quite nice, I prefer traditional Lunaito pieces, but it’s fine. Much better than rap at least.” Gaia’s eyes lit up. She always felt like the only officer in the whole Black Fleet to prefer the Goddess’ more melodic blessings instead of her aggressive raps. “Ah, I totally get what you mean!”

This is when the Deadbeat climbed onto the stage with the Watamate harpist, and Noravera’s gaze snapped back to that direction.

Lady Citrora had a strange smile while she asked Gaia a question. “Say, do you know the name of this officer?” Commander Suzuka looked again. The man now faced them. He was tall and broad-shouldered, with thin limbs. His jaw was to shave with, and his cheekbones, sharp. Unusual for male Deadbeat, he had short hair, white with the slightest tinge of pink. The vast majority of their men were bald. Undeniably handsome, Gaia had to admit.

“That’s my younger brother, Calvinus. Don’t mind him, he’s rather unserious. Speaking of, he practices his rap more than his katana. I fear that his climbing on stage means we’ll be subjected to his skills.”

Fruce chuckled for a bit. “Oh, we' know what he’s up to. Me and and Lady Jaggery have been… ‘Subjected’ to nearly every performance of his in the ship’s hold.” Before Gaia could answer, the voices of the younger Suzuka sibling and the Watamate rose in unison.

The harpist played and sang a duo performance with the officer. Gaia recognized it as a musical blessing which appeared simultaneously on Moriji and in /bakatare/. The opportunities for both complementary parts of the song to be performed together were rare. Within her brother’s repertoire, Gaia had to concede this was one of her favorites.

The voices of the rapper, singer and harp made for a beautiful harmony. Noravera was utterly transfixed by the song. Applause and cheers erupted when the duo concluded, but the Luknight remained conspicuously silent.

After thanking the harpist and hugging her, the officer headed towards his sister. “Hey sis, nice to see you making friends!” Gaia scowled. “Watch it, you’re talking to a superior.” The man laughed it off. “Aye aye sir, no need to rub it in every time. Anyway, why don’t you introduce me?”

Gaia was sorely tempted to tell him to fuck off, but she didn’t want to act like that in front of the Luknights. “I present to you, veteran of the Kiryu-Kai wars and Luknight of Battle, Lady Fruce Citrora. And the Noble Luknight Lady Noravera Jaggery, the nation’s Moriji ambassador, and the one to thank for this expedition occurring.”

Calvinus bowed deeply. “Nice to meet you, my ladies. I am honoured to have rapped for such an august audience.” He kissed the warrior’s gauntlet and Jaggery’s hand. “Noravera, can I call you Nora? Nora, I did not see you cheer; did you dislike my performance? You seemed to enjoy it, since I noticed you mouthing the lyrics.”

Gears seemed to literally turn in Noravera’s head for a moment until she answered. “Ah, hm, sorry, it was… ᵍᵒᵒᵈ.” Calvinus smiled brightly. He seemed to hear her, despite her whispering the end of the sentence. “I’m glad to hear it! Say, if you’re my dear sister’s friend, you must be an interesting person. Might I accompany you to the Sheep’s Festival?”

Redness crept up Noravera’s neck while she gave her diplomatic response. “Well, it would only in our nations’ relationship best interest that I present our culture to one of our Deadbeat companions. I accept your invitation for the glory of Himesama, nanora.”

‘She must feel embarrassed to have to go with Calvinus. I shouldn’t have let him put her on the spot like that,’ thought Gaia, oblivious.
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>>25727196
Anchoring under the ongoing /luna/-/morig/ story.
>>25762051
>>25762096
>>25762143

Calvinus (bald in latin) being one of the rare male deadbeats with hair amuses me way too much.

>>25749462
kek

>>25727196
Anchor for novelty's sake >>25749462

>>25749462
It's not much of a nation. It's more like a bunch of skeletons and chickens partying on the beach for a few days.

On one hand I thought about building houses in /nasa/ like Skyrim where most of the houses are dug in the basements. On the other hand south of the river is wetland. Wetlands flood. Especially in the summer. So when Sanalites build new houses we're going to have to 1) build them above ground and 2) insulate and vent the houses to protect them from the tundra cold. Also another problem /nasa/ has is we have to put our cables above ground due to flooding and moisture. So we're going to need tall utility poles to carry power from the station. Building power lines is for later. For now /nasa/ will do fine with wood/peat burning stoves and power generators. And if we have to we'll use natural gas. At least /nasa/ is an expert at aeronautics. So engineering air tight tundra warm houses with air filtration is easy. We just need power and fuel to keep them running.

>>25762051
>>25762096
>>25762143

I love it, nanora. Don't worry Gaia, things will heat up on the road soon enough. Lunaitos just love their treats.

>>25766166
Gaia is a serious girl who likes straightforward things: Killing schizos, maps, salmon. All this socializing is out of her comfort zone. Gotta have representation for the autisticbeats.
Is Calvinus' invitation what you had in mind with the "accompanying any Deadbeat" part? Accompanying someone to a Festival = date in my terminally anime mind.

Wait until the deadbeats see machine guns.

>>25767897
We'll be big fans, I'm sure.

>>25768417
Both machine guns and sub-machine guns need factory crafted parts to be produced. That said machine guns are fantastic for schizo raids.

https://youtu.be/tE6A_4oYnNA

They can tear apart the bulk of the group while your long guns can pick off the stragglers. We have both high calibur and low calibur round models depending on if we're fighting armored vehicles or infantry.

>>25769211
Wait... Who's speaking here?
If it's the sanalites I'd think you guys' small arms are all directed energy weapons?
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/rapid-pulse-laser-weapons-could-be-the-pentagons-future-edge/

>>25769510
I thought they had those F0RK electric guns or something. It looks like they didn't archive their weapons rentry.

>>25769510
They could presumably make the parts for standard small arms (like revolvers andd things like that) but it'd depend a lot on how much of their manufacturing capability is left in a repairable state and how much this manufactuting capability is available for repurposing. So i dunno.

i just realized indonesians or at least the people in that area at the time had cannons since the 1300's kek.

>>25769755
They would at least have a few 3D printers available I think. Just look at how easy it is to print guns nowadays. If they can keep the printer cartridges topped up they should be able to mass manufacture automatic arms and their ammo. More heavy-duty parts like barrels can be made relatively easily with CNC machines. Though it depends on what specialisation /nasa/'s ship has in their fleet I guess. If it's an agricultural ship then their manufacturing capabilities would be quite limited. With only some available to manufacture spare parts when needed.

>>25769510
>>25769583
>>25769755
/nasa/'s long guns are railguns but our small arms are conventional cartridges. F0RKs are three-pronged partisans where the tips electrucute whoever they poke. F0RKs can be set to stun for policing. When /nasa/ rebuilds manufacturing we're going to make machine guns to fight off schizo trolls. We have a "few" machine guns set up around the station but ammo is limited. Also the guns are old and damaged. Machine gun training is done in VR with simulated feedback. Granted the simulation doesn't accurately simulate old damaged guns.

Also direct energy weapons are a meme. The power needed to make them lethal is more than a battery you can reasonably carry can make. /nasa/ maybe deep space tech, but we're still hard sci-fi for the most part. CR-USTs at best would have laser streams since we do have mining lasers. Its also near impossible to make an efficient machine gun out of a railgun.

That said microwave guns are a thing now. It won't kill you fast, but it'll make you ears ring, itch, and burn to the point pain overcomes you and you have to move out of the way.

>>25770594
That's true, we don't know what kind of ship /nasa/ is, whether it's a military, research, or civilian vessel, it'd be important to the matters at hand.

>>25767399
Not entirely, but it works. What exactly do you have in mind for the Rushialands? Is Mikeneko taking back residence there? I kind of think this is the kind of thing we should take to a vote, because desu I don't remember ever seeing a mikeneko thread.

>>25770939
>>25770594
As an Orbiter Station, /nasa/'s primarily an agricultural vessel. Our specialty is food production and harvesting. That said all stations have some arms manufacturing as the smaller battleships would need to board Orbiters to restock supplies. However most of our arms manufacturing was lost when our factories were detached. We have some arms manufacturing in the station, but its just barely enough to protect ourselves. We'll have to rebuild arms manufacturing when we rebuild factories. And even then we'll stick to making 19th century revolvers, rifles, and gatling guns.

>>25771280
I'll take it!
Anon, there's been a Mike thread pretty much constantly since she started streaming: >>25547654
It's just in moonrunes, to filter EOPs like us kek.
I agree we might want to vote on it, just to make it official, but I don't think it's a controversial move. The Mike thread is very much the Fandead thread with a paint job.

>>25770927
Depends, theoretically, USPL would remove a lot of constraints that continuous stream DEWs have as they don't diffuse as much. But it's still a concept that has yet to be tested IRL. Even if you can't fit it inside a portable package, you should still be able to mount it on a vehicle(especially as /nasa/ have railguns). Though chemically propelled small arms are still good even for /nasa/' tech lv. Cartridge and small arms tech don't just stagnate.

>>25771546
Cartridges are very reliable, even in space. Granted when firing in space you have a shell catcher so shells don't eject onto your polymer glass visor. Most space weapons are large arms like torpedoes (which are like ships in themselves), artillery, and mines. Contrary to popular belief there is no stealth in space. I really should research space combat and boarding more.

>>25771966
Caseless ammunition might be quite popular in cases where the firearm is only expected to be used in space. Plus it's a problem that needs to be solved, unlike careless ammo on earth. And I'd expect combat models of spacesuits have armored visors. In Zero G scenarios, I'd also expect swarmer drones to be quite dominant.
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/
This is a pretty great site for ideas but IMO the weapons entry isn't that well throughout especially since they completely missed the EW aspect of IRL military technology development.

>>25772860
Armored visors are reserved for military and security forces. Security forces with their visors on look like Star Wars storm troopers though.

>If I was a sanallite I could already be living out my scifi worldbuilding fantasies
one day, one day...

>>25773413
Hey! nothing's stopping you from writing a sci-fi story from a present-day deadbeat's perspective. Or just write a story set in 2022 in Vitubia time.

>>25773518
Yeah, I guess I could, but there's still a lot to do in the main canon. I just wanted to whine a little bit.

>>25773413
If you were a Sanalite you would never live long enough to see your development goals realized. There's a ton of forward thinking you have to do at the same time you have very limited resources. There's a ton of micromanaging of resources. On one hand some resources are more plentiful than others. On the other hand once Sanalites start having babies those resources will become strained in two generations. Its pretty stressful at times.

>inb4 why did the tyrannical principal lock down the station?

>>25773745
This is a bump. But don't lament what you're not restricted from writing. Be proud of the things you have written so far. I enjoy deadbeat lore.

>>25773786
Damn, imagine how much you guys must be rationing plastics.
>>25775913
Thanks anon! Feeling motivated, going back to Notepad++.

>>25777236
As long as /nasa/ has some kind of hydrocarbon oil plastics can be made. Recycling plastics is a bitch. Forunately we have ways of breaking down unreuseable plastic with things like bacteria and fungi. /nasa/ also doubled as a dump. So we're used to recycling. And people ask why /nasa/ are shitposting space Aussies.

>>25771434
It was the fastest solo JP vtuber general on the board until /dsw/ came along, too

>>25736225
https://youtu.be/_5J-6MwAEsU

>>25736225
depends on where they are, i suppose. those kinds of establishments don't get much business, so they might need a higher price to justify the cost of doing business. here's an idea. have a normal restaurant with a secret section in the back for the initiated.
>>25734053
the meat-suners are a logical result of us saying we raided /risu/ in the past. also, i think i recall hearing about at least one person from /risu/ who was into /meat/, but i might be misremembering.
as for what we want from /risu/, idk. we started trying to make peace after the /inf/ agreement, and since then we've been trying to help develop /risu/ into a stronger nation and ally. maybe it's to spread influence, maybe it's because we like you guys.
as for trade, i would have to look through all the prior trade agreements to know for sure, but if i recall correctly, the other /meat/head usually had pretty lenient trades. you should probably wait for him to get back before you set any of this in stone, but hopefully the rest of what i said is mostly accurate.

premature bump

bump.

>>25736225
Probably not, since given the circumstances of speaking to potential customers from an alleyway, odds are such as restaurant won't be particularly popular or legal in that location. In which case, trying to get random people on the streets to join in the fun would basically be inviting unwanted attention. If a /meat/ cult has to operate in a hostile country, chances are it would be much more secretive and make use of more legal establishments as covers.
Personally, I opted for something akin to a BDSM club for my story set in /kfp/, but more regular brothels or just restaurants could work fine too, as I assume the skills in preparing long pork meals are mostly transferable to regular pork and other foodstuffs. If it's operating in a more friendly environment, it would likely just be an open establishment since it doesn't need to hide itself.

>>25734053
I just found the idea interesting when I was writing the /meat/-/risu/ story. Ultimately, I guess I just like trading and stuff compared with the more militant interactions, which is why I usually ask if people want to trade before going for what /meat/ might receive in return. I guess it depends on what /risu/ has to offer, and of course, /risu/'s position makes it both a good friend to have, and it's always fun to mess with /morig/ ICly

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>>25781360
I did say I watch comma on occasion so probably was me. also the zombie that plays terraria. I always personally thought you wanted risuners because speed is good for hunting shit. As for trading. well all our shit grows 3x as fast so wood and food would be most likely. its what everyone else wants.

>>25790575
you guys being fast is a benefit, but we are durable and clever. your shit grows fast, but our shit grows pretty fast, too, due to the blood river, and the increased costs of shipping at this time period might bring into question whether it's worth it or not, but division of labor implies that we could still very much benefit from those kinds of trade deals, and as >>25783855 said, trade is beneficial in it's own right. also, "the zombie that plays terraria" is zonbeko. she goes "pero pero pero" and it's cute and i'm happy you enjoy some of our chuubas :D

>>25790856
you also get a crop speed increase? tell me about this? would risuners notice this?

>>25790575
I mean, being able to benefit from risuners' perks also helps, and is definitely something /meat/ would ICly utilise.

>>25791071
Well, basically /meat/'s way of refining chuubanite is to make people eat them, and then use their enriched body for material. One use of their blood and other "unusable" parts is to use them to enrich the fields. As a result, those fields are pretty high in chuubanite concentration as well, and /meat/ chuubanite's effect means they do grow fast (although maybe not as fast as their /risu/ counterpart... maybe, since it has other benefits). It's probably something noticeable, but I don't imagine the Risuners to either stick around long enough to observe the difference, or ask /meat/heads how they tend their farmlands.

>>25791656
it's also worth mentioning that /meat/ chuubanite makes things go through the life cycle at an accelerated rate, hence why it would cause self-replicating ie organic material would regenerate.

>>25791656
Maybe make it so that since /meat/ chuubanite accelerates living things' life cycle, it also makes crops rot or wither faster? So in order to actually feed people, the chuubanite concentration is controlled and thus the acceleration effect is not as powerful as /risu/ and /uuu/'s chuubanite.

>>25791911
that would make sense. you would have to plan the harvest otherwise shit goes bad. From what I know you guys primarily use your chuubanite for body enhancements i believe? i know it has multiple uses and is more versatile meanwhile /risu/ is only used for plant acceleration.

>>25791911
I don't have the right kind of autism to figure out the exact mechanism, but the result sounds about right for me.

>>25792147
Indeed, see https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatlore#chuubanite for more details. While they're indeed used for tattoos and scars to help enhance some bodily functions (or do general chuubanite stuff), the healing effect is arguably more important in the grand scheme of things. /meat/ also uses chuubanite-enriched herbs for their smoke bombs, but I think chuubanite enhancing drug effect is a common effect of chuubanite.

>>25791911
>"accelerates living things' life cycle"
pretty sure we already talked about the balancing factors to it, but that wouldn'
t be one of them. most of the problems from /meat/ chuubanite are that they cause imperfect regeneration, from cancer and other types of mutations, to regrowing something in a deformed way. the regeneration works on a cellular level, so unless the thing develops some form of necrosis, there's no reason the organism as a whole would wither away at a faster rate. with that said, telomeres might degenerate faster, so the likelihood of mutations would increase over time. still no withering away, as you described.

>>25792295 (me)
also, again, the fact that it isn't specialized means it wouldn't be as powerful for the specific things that /risu/ and /uuu/ are for.

>>25791911
>"accelerates living things' life cycle"
pretty sure we already talked about the balancing factors to it, but that wouldn't be one of them. most of the problems from /meat/ chuubanite are that they cause imperfect regeneration, from cancer and other types of mutations, to regrowing something in a deformed way.
the regeneration works on a cellular level, so unless the thing develops some form of necrosis, there's no reason the organism as a whole would wither away at a faster rate. with that said, telomeres might degenerate faster, so the likelihood of mutations would increase over time. still no withering away, as you described.
>not as powerful as /risu/ and /uuu/'s chuubanite.
the fact that it isn't specialized means it wouldn't be as powerful for the specific things that /risu/ and /uuu/ are for.

>>25792147
Not a /meat/head but yes if I recall. It really depends on how you use the chuubanite. Like even if Risuners don't have any kind of glyph magic as of now, gem magic is still pretty versatile. Obtaining the specific activator is kind of a pain though. But at least that's better than us... Magic hort...

>>25792494
I'm thinking more about over ripening and the rotting that comes after. Since the process most likely involves the plants actually absorbing the chuubanite in the soil, it makes sense that it'll also be present in the fruits or whatever part you harvest out of the crops. And that would most likely continue even after they are harvested. The bacteria, fungus and weeds would probably be a challenge to manage too. Those might cause crop failure if it's not managed

>>25792755
Funny you mentioned that... the part in https://rentry.org/k2qfq#the-city was initially meant to only be for the fungus, but if we go with that idea, her response of needing to harvest it quickly makes even more sense. That said, I don't think all of /meat/'s fields would be enriched with chuubanite, especially given the drawbacks we're seemingly establishing now. So, some fields would be enriched, have higher yields and potentially special effects in the produce, but requires more resource to both grow and tend the crops; while the more mundane farmlands have normal growth rate but don't have all these hussles.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC I HATE MAGIC
I'M GONNA BUILD A GIANT CHUUBANITE BOMB AND TRIGGER ALL THE CHUUBANITE RESERVES IN THE WORLD TO OVERLOAD
WE WILL START OVER FROM ZERO WITH THIS BOMB, AND ENTRUST THE FUTURE TO A GENERATION WITHOUT MAGIC

>>25793497
>hates magic
>uses magic rock for explosion
kek

>>25792755
>The bacteria, fungus and weeds would probably be a challenge to manage too.
if you know much about how agriculture works, you might know that there are some ways to organize crops so that they can defend themselves against these kinds of things. i think a lot of it falls under the branch of permaculture, but the aztecs used it a lot, especially with the three sisters (which are crops that we have) but basically, it's when you use nature to naturally, and automatically take care of itself.
furthermore, if the crops ripen and rot faster, it would likely lead to more crops being produced throughout the season/year, as 1) the crops can be composted, along with a perhaps somewhat reduced amount of chuubanite, allowing for the controlling of this process, and 2) the fact that crops put nutrients back into the soil means, depending on the crops you are using and how you organize them, you could have yield for as long as they are in season to grow.
lastly, preservation methods, though far less efficient than modern techniques, have existed since ancient times. i would have to consult with someone who knows better, but we might be able to keep a fair amount of our food throughout the year, reducing the potential difficulty caused by this. with that being said, it makes sense that it would cause crops to ripen quicker. i wonder what evolutionary trends would arise in places that have more chuubanite.
>>25793497
chuubanite is in all life forms, and i have to insist, based on how we have described it, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that removing chuubanite would have a similar effect on all life, from the magical to the mundane, as removing one of the 4 amino acids associated with dna. there wouldn't be any life to survive after all chuubanite disappeared, even assuming the explosion wouldn't create a inhospitable, radioactive hellscape similar to the ruins of /rushia/ immediately after it's fall. just ignore it if it's getting too complex or autistic for you to enjoy, as long as you let the rest of us enjoy the autism.

>>25794002
> just ignore it if it's getting too complex or autistic for you to enjoy, as long as you let the rest of us enjoy the autism.

MAGIC IS EVERYTHING anon getting called out kek.

Also this makes chuubanite sound like the force from star wars or medichlorians specifically

>>25794248
from the most basic, most simplistic sense, maybe you could make a few comparisons, but if you actually get into the lore autism of either starwars or this, they are barely similar in any noticeable regard. i don't even think they were an inspiration when we were thinking about how it would work, but i can't remember what chuubanite as a substance was based off of, as it's been a very long time at this point.

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Looks like I'm heading out of town in a few hours again for elderly mother's health. Permaculture is not needed inside of Lammington Station's greenhouses. However it is needed in the southern border farm. Though taigas probably has less hostile weeds than /meat/. We still have hostile weeds though.

>>25794002
but chuubanite is a rock?

>>25798150
Its an ore like a mineral I think.

>>25798350
>>25798150
it's an element. or rather, vitubium is an element. chuubanite is when that element binds with another material associated with a given thread topic, such as a chuuba. this material can be quite large, but it is expected that there would be some form of mechanism for it to work on a larger scale. ie, being involved in genetics/epigenetics in regard to organisms that make more direct use of chuubanite to function in unique ways that might not be possible in real life. it isn't actually magical in and of itself, though. see magic quanta, as that seems to be the more recent interpretation, we are using to explain things, though previous ideas probably still apply to some degree.

>>25794002
>it wouldn't be a stretch to say that removing chuubanite would have a similar effect on all life, from the magical to the mundane, as removing one of the 4 amino acids associated with dna.
Why?

>>25798965
imagine there is an element that is capable of producing magical effects, and that is in relative abundance on a planet that is capable of developing life. now imagine life developing on that planet and not making use of that most valuable resource at any stage over the billions of years it would take to develop multicellular organisms. now imagine the organisms that developed without taking advantage of that resource being able to survive among, let alone out-compete the ones that do such that those mutations wouldn't eventually spread to all other life just through breeding. if chuubanite exists, it would have a major effect on the evolution of all organisms, such that it would likely serve a similar purpose as, if not the amino acids in dna, then at least nutrients that we need to stay healthy. realistically, life on this planet would evolve a dependence on chuubanite that could not be easily supplanted by any alternative.

>>25798965
imagine there is an element that is capable of producing magical effects, and that is in relative abundance on a planet that is capable of developing life. now imagine life developing on that planet and not making use of that most valuable resource at any stage over the billions of years it would take to develop multicellular organisms. now imagine the organisms that developed without taking advantage of that resource being able to survive among, let alone out-compete the ones that do such that those mutations wouldn't eventually spread to all other life just through breeding.
if chuubanite exists, it would have a major effect on the evolution of all organisms, such that it would likely serve a similar purpose as, if not the amino acids in dna, then at least nutrients that we need to stay healthy. realistically, life on this planet would evolve a dependence on chuubanite that could not be easily supplanted by any alternative.

>>25799452
>>25799494
Life didn't develop on the planet, and it appeared at a relatively recent time in the /jp/ days, quantity of chuubanite isn't nearly enough for it to become a cornerstone of life.

have your fun but to the risuners MAGIC IS EVERYTHING

>>25799550
i have no idea where this idea that chuubanite, a resource related to chuubas, and therefore anywhere that vtubers are mentioned, would only exist on /vt/ and not /jp/ but from the very beginning i have strongly opposed this interpretation, with minimal pushback, yet the interpretation remains. as for the quantity of chuubanite, we agreed a while ago that the stuff is practically in everything, from the air to the dirt, to various parts in space, etc. what is in low abundance is the ore, especially in it's pure form. lastly, and just to cover my bases, the entire universe came into existence at the first kisuna ai thread. /jp/ in this context isn't "vtubers and touhou and idols and japanese culture" it's "the first instances of vtubers on this site".

>>25799494
I think it would depend on which chuubanite you're looking at. I could see organisms being reliant on /meat/ chuubanite, since it affects cellular reproduction, so everything would be used to having a different growth rate, suddenly growing slower would cause creatures to reach maturity slower, some plants will be out of synv with seasons, etc. It wouldn't be instant death for everyone like removing an amino acid, more like an extinction event where only more robust/redundant/adaptable lifeforms would survive. And that's for /meat/, you'd have to go case-by-case for each chuubanite. Some chuubanite probably doesn't even affect lifeforms.

>>25800024
Please do re-read that, recent time in the /jp/ days refers to the time when vtubers first appeared.
>we agreed a while ago that the stuff is practically in everything
We didn't

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>>25800174
i am pretty sure we did, but i'd have to comb through the archives to find it. i might be misremembering an aspect of it, but it is spread out enough that it should be more or less everywhere through the process of diffusion.
>>25800031
magic works on a microscopic scale, especially if we are using the magic quanta interpretation which is currently the most grounded interpretation we have, and therefore the best. everything is supposed to have a clear effect on the physical universe, be it /meat/ magic, or /morig/ magic, or any other kind of magic. all of them would absolutely have an effect on life, regardless of whether or not the chuubanite effect is geared towards life, because life finds a way. any advantage evolution can make use of can and will be utilized.
it's a matter of time, and chance, but that chance is quite high, especially when you consider the fact that this is taking place over such a long period of time, and between two different realms of existence.
even if you say the individual magical effects of chuubanite are too chaotic for life to evolve, ignoring the tendency for life to stay relatively put in whatever region they evolved in or immigrated to so long as it has the resources they need to survive, combined with the matter vs. antimatter sort of process that occurs according to the magic quanta interpretation that would cause those regions to have a higher natural abundance of a certain type of chuubanite over the others, then we still have the element itself, vitubium, that would in one way or another influence evolution. remember, chuubanite has unique properties on it's own, as described in the chuubanite rentry.
moreover, to hammer in that this would very much be an extinction event, i'll just note that ecosystems can be overwhelmed if large enough changes happen rapidly, such as the somewhat sudden loss of a variety or species that play an integral part in said ecosystem. if you somehow are able to argue that the number of extinct species from the loss of an entire element would be small, even while acknowledging that magical species that make use of that element specifically exist in a higher abundance on this planet, then you still must accept that it would put a lot of stress on the species that do survive for a while until the ecosystem reorganizes itself.
just to remind you, this is all over the idea that causing all chuubanite to go supercritical to get rid of magic completely would leave survivors to repopulate the world. it's good that there are natural explanations for why that would be a terrible thing, even if it were possible (though i suspect it wouldn't be).
i don't see why it wouldn't be both natural, and beneficial to the cohesion of the setting to have biology evolve to chuubanite, especially since it would allow us to be more creative with our speculative biology. we already have dragoons and roseys, and possibly the owls if /who/ decides to go through with it, not to mention the dragon/tortoises that /nasa/ has been enjoying for a while. we can get more creative, but the more species we think of, the more we need to explain what effect they have on their ecosystem.
that was a lot, so hopefully it gives you a lot to work with. btw, in case you couldn't tell, i enjoy this kind of topic a lot, so if it gets annoying or tedious for you, please inform me and i'll see if i can't reel it in to hopefully make it easier on the both of us. of course, i'll do the same if it becomes relevant.

>>25802155
Yeah, I agree with all of that, and I agree it would be a mass extinction event, just saying it's not the same as one of the four building blocks of DNA being unpersoned. It's more like if the sun was removed, or the concentration of oxygen in the atmosphere dropped by half.

>>25802929
i guess that comes down to terminology, then. my thought was mostly on epigenetics, which arguably plays a bigger role than genetics in how a gene expresses itself, but getting into detail about that would be more tedious than just comparing it to the basic stuff people already know. well, if we are in agreement i guess we don't have anything to discuss. i'm happy that we came to an agreement, but i was kind of hoping we would get to discuss more stuff more extensively. i suppose the stuff we discussed already was good enough, though. thank you for engaging in it, regardless. it was fun while it lasted.

>>25802155
We understand that chuubanite is either a mineral or a rock or the result of vitubium binding or whatever.
There's a clear start point to how chuubanite affects the world, we do have examples of chuubanite affecting life in zones of high chuubanite activity as /morig/ has been described, but this is all depending on the quantity of available chuubanite and the existing supply and just how much does chuubanite difuse and radiate. Before finding out these numbers we can not declare that every single life form in the planet depends on chuubanite or has integrated it in its genetics, after all, not every place has as much chuubanite as /morig/ does, and there are materials that hamper the way chuubanite works in the world (like lead and noble gases).
Lifeforms living near deposits of radioactive material would be affected by it in the way they grow, but not many lifeforms in the planet depend on radioactive material as a "life force".

>>25803182
This anon put it better than me >>25803924
Basically, it's not a fundamental building block of life (like DNA), it's something that has a big impact on life.

Ok so in /risu/ case they believe Risu herself as a goddess bless the lands and give it the plant acceleration. Of course risuners are all out magic and believe unironically that magic is everything. I do have a question however about molerisuners who mine out huge caverns for the secret gemtree farms. How deep is chuubanite? Surely it could be literally mined correct? And would risuners know it to be the magic stuff?

>>25804649
Since /risu/ chuubanite has an affinity for plants, maybe it could become mineral veins in a process similar to fossil fuel, where dead tree mass dense in chuubanite ends up buried and compressed underground. In which case, it could be found at depths similar to coal.

>>25803924
it is radioactive, but none of the radiation is ionizing, so it is likely also rather slow to decay, assuming i am not mistaken. as for "zones of high chuubanite activity" 1) it's high prevelance, activity implies something else. 2) chuubanite has existed from the beginning of both /vt/ and /jp/. if you know anything about how diffusion works you would know that the sheer fact that /morig/ has chuubanite in their air proves it is already everywhere. with every breath you take, you also breathe an incomprehensibly small portion of julius ceasar's last breath. every region has their own chuubanite, presumably in some amount of abundance, to say it is rarer than carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, or even water would be creating a ratio that might force us to change how we have designed our systems in a potentially dramatic way. if the only reasonable contention with what i have posited left was over the quantity of chuubanite in this setting, then i am in a pretty good position, all things considered.

>>25804878
Are all lifeforms dependent on Julius Ceasar's last breath?

>>25804934
if chuubanite was merely as widespread as julius ceasar's last breath, would there be anywhere in the whole world that was not affected by /morig/'s chuubanite enriched air? of course, there was a suggestion that chuubanite would change affinities faster elsewhere as a result of the magic quanta interpretation, so /morig/ would still have a unique form of chuubanite, but that would still leave us with the problem of an abundance of chuubanite throughout the regions of the globe. seeing as how this completely contradictsthe statement here >>25803924 if you were to accept the premises, you would have to find fault in something else here >>25802155 to preserve your claim, which i assume is still that chuubanite wouldn't be necessary for life in this setting.

Our pretty gems are charged by chuubanite magic and produce various effects depending on gem color, origin, and other aspects.

>>25805387
I mean, you're the one claiming chuubanite is necessary for life in the setting, but you haven't offered a specific physical mechanism by which this would be true, as far as I can tell. You're just saying it is everywhere, thus all life is dependent on it. Which doesn't track to me, because there are plenty of elements found in trace amounts everywhere on earth, but life isn't fundamentally dependent on them.

>>25805531
>you haven't offered a specific physical mechanism by which this would be true
are you literally only responding to everything since the julius ceasar post? as i said, if a definite advantage can be gained, life would eventually find a way through the process of evolution by natural selection, so as much as we can speculate, there are options that could transcend our understanding of what it means to be alive. with that said, i have repeatedly, throughout this entire conversation, brought up epigenetics as that very physical mechanism, and i have already mentioned that it is already canon that there is a physical mechanism which would allow magical creatures to exist in this setting. have you not been reading my admittedly somewhat bulky responses? anything i say here would just be repeating myself at this point, read through >>25802155 and see where i address a few of the points you brought up here, and hey, while you're at it, look for something else to disagree on as i suggested you do after i responded to your point.

>>25781360
>>25783855
thanks for the input, glad i asked, its in /nasfaqq/ so foreign land so i will make sure to go the way of having a legal front restaurante with a VIP area since i think it will fit the story the best.

time for /meat/ to meat a determined onobot firsthand hehehe

What are the rules for modifying terrain? Or have we all agreed its pretty much set as-is? I understand if its the latter, since, if it changed, theres a ton of shit in the lore doc that would need to be edited. Reason for asking was that it seemed kind of a bummer that The Northern Three have like no rivers or lakes in the official maps.

>>25807713
I think it can be asssumed that small rivers and ponds and lakes are not visible in the world map, So in my opinion you could plausibly have a bunch around

>>25804878
We breath trace amounts of everything, this does not make things inherently necessary to life.
>to say it is rarer than carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, or even water would be creating a ratio that might force us to change how we have designed our systems in a potentially dramatic way
Fucking what? Chuubanite being as common or even more common than oxygen, carbon, nitrogen does not make any sense at all, that very same thing you are saying would force us to change much more and throw away a lot of lore. Again, just because uranium or plutonium exists in the world does not mean that every single being on earth would become dependent on it, same as other radioactive materials, radio waves aren't ionizing either and they sure as hell aren't becoming a building block of life. We do have implied loss of energy from chuubanite, when a deadbeat is away from their island the person starts to lose certain chuubanite affinities such as the bone density. Chuubanite has been described as having an effective range multiple times in various lore entries.
>chuubanite has existed from the beginning of both /vt/ and /jp/
Chuubanite has existed since VTUBERS, not the beginning of /jp/. It simply has not existed in the world for enough time for it to change it in deep ways. That'd require millions of years.
>>25805387
Chuubanite isn't oxygen, it doesn't spread like oxygen, frankly, a comparison to methane would probably be more fitting, /morig/'s enriched air by their own lore has limited spread (the area it affects is still a pretty big chunk) and is emitted from zones near the volcano. It can be implied to be bonded with materials of the volcano or other stuff, A deadbeat would have to elaborate here. The point being, /morig/ chuubanite does not affect outside the island, so there's a point where chuubanite loses effectiveness. And this is considering that /morig/ is a geological place with a massive abundance of chuubanite. Once chuubanite loses effectiveness, then what's the evolutionary point in using it for the body?
>>25806107
This is all working on the input that chuubanite is supposedly everywhere, but this very same assumption fucks with actual real physics that we are trying to stay in, a bunch of implications that are too far reaching and would probably fuck with the lore of practically every nation.

By the way, this is just to make sure, when has chuubanite been said to be non-ionizing?

Holy crap, yall are making me super glad I didnt go into chuubanite when writing /uuu/'s lore, kek

>>25808617
its easier when you think like pic related

>>25808704
yeah, Magic Is Everything anon has been slowly winning me over

>>25808617
i dont see why it can't just be "ooh magic rock does cool things"
i've seen over-explaining in things like SCP and you do not want to go down that road

>>25808778
Don't get me wrong, I 100% understand why we cant hand-wave EVERYTHING. If we did some autist would come in here and start ranting about how he made a character thats immortal and can teleport all over the world and kills just by speaking or some shit and we'd never hear the end of it.
On the other hand, we now we have a stricter system that keeps the world and stories somewhat consistent, but what we never hear the end of is the rants like above where some anon needs an explanation down to the quantum level before they accept someone else's lore.
...
And now Im an anon ranting about meta shit...

i like chuubanite because our retro chuubanite allows me to smelt old metals with it together to create soem super sturdy plating that i can then put on a blimp to make some super resilient battle blimp

because it would be cool

>>25808617
I had to fucking learn this shitty magic system just to argue against the bullshit this motherfucker no paragraphs shitter says and have at least some basic input on how the world moves. Every time I have to re-read the chuubanite document I lose myself a little more to anger and madness. Also, turns out we probably should have anchored smaller inputs to how chuubanite should work, or at least keep a document on proposed interpretations because as it stands anyone can say some bullshit and it could probably pass as "yeah someone probably said that at some point"

>>25809310
dude. you sound like you could really use the mentality here >>25808704

>>25810076
I had adopted that mentality until others started proposing things I found less agreeable a few months ago, so to at least have a hand in the debate and be able to see where certain things come from I went and did it. Part of the issue is how it fundamentally affects everyone I guess.

>>25809310
ok thats fair, no paragraphs anon gets to us all

>>25811205
Yeah, I did say something wrong here thought, he at least uses paragraphs now which is a lot better than it used to be (even if it still takes me multiple readings to actually understand what he says)

fuck it i now want a battle blimp, the Retro Reich is now collecting the most memorable pieces of metal the world all over to create armor for it. /morig/ swords that have been passed down through generations, owl republic weaponry that has served in decisive battles of their biggest war achievments, we shall rip out the nails of tables used in the msot unforgettable table matches of /hfz/, sacred ritual knifes of /meat/. we shall gather whatever is possible so we can smelt it into an impenetrable armor for a giant battle blimp so outrageus that it will make even sanalites question their understanding of natural laws and aerodynamics

>>25811967
>taken down by a single well placed railgun shot.

>>25811883
We really have to give some props to his paragraphs usage, it's a huge improvement. Thank you paragraphsanon.

>>25812139
wich only sanalites have and even then, this armor is gonna be tough as hell since we will use huge amounts of chuubanite to reinforce the armor to be tougher than any normal metal so who knows if one shot truly will be enough.

also doesn't matter, its a fucking battle blimp

>>25808286
>We breath trace amounts of everything, this does not make things inherently necessary to life.
i responded the way i did when you first made that argument because i never made that argument to begin with. you're missing the point of why i brought that up, i even clarified every time what i was actually meaning, that if /morig/ could have air with chuubanite in it in high abundance, it must stand to reason that diffusion would spread that chuubanite throughout the world, making it sufficiently abundant that all my other points that directly address this argument from personal incredulity. i explained the physical mechanisms repeatedly, i explained why they would come into being repeatedly, i explained that it was already canon repeatedly, what else do you want?
>radio waves aren't ionizing either and they sure as hell aren't becoming a building block of life
as i have repeatedly stated, chuubanite's effects are far too useful for it to not influence natural selection when life almost inevitably evolved the ability to make use of it.
>We do have implied loss of energy from chuubanite
loss of affinity. this was, like every other point in this reply, already addressed in the reply you are responding to.
>Chuubanite has existed since VTUBERS, not the beginning of /jp/
i'm starting to think you are making arguments in bad faith. >>25800024
>/jp/ in this context isn't "vtubers and touhou and idols and japanese culture" it's "the first instances of vtubers on this site".
literally did you even read any of what i said?
>Once chuubanite loses effectiveness, then what's the evolutionary point in using it for the body?
>>25802155 (me)
>ignoring the tendency for life to stay relatively put in whatever region they evolved in or immigrated to so long as it has the resources they need to survive, combined with the matter vs. antimatter sort of process that occurs according to the magic quanta interpretation that would cause those regions to have a higher natural abundance of a certain type of chuubanite over the others,
>a bunch of implications that are too far reaching and would probably fuck with the lore of practically every nation.
the problem is that the lore of practically every nation is set in a way that would necessitate this level of abundance. that is why i brought up diffusion, even though you repeatedly misinterpret the meaning behind me bringing it up, as if something so simplistic could so easily go over your head.
>>25809310
>I had to fucking learn this shitty magic system just to argue against the bullshit this motherfucker no paragraphs shitter says
if it isn't fun for you, accept whatever viable option you can for the lower level stuff and focus only on developing balanced upper level stuff. ie, describe a result you would like, and ask someone how that might be possible in this setting. there might be limitations on how something works, what conditions would have to be made in order for it to work properly, but most results should be replicable with this system, as far as i can tell.
>we probably should have anchored smaller inputs to how chuubanite should work
ya, in retrospect that would have definately made things easier. the archive i primarily use no longer works, so all my links seem to be dead i guess.
>>25810307
what part? just curious.
>>25811883
if you still can't understand what i am saying, what aspect of what i am saying is making it difficult, and how much of an improvement is it from before?

>>25812418
If you think you can take on /nasa/ with your battle blimp then you're making a grave mistake. That said /nasa/ has quite a bit of iron underground. And if we can make coal coke then /nasa/ can use blast furnaces to make high quality steel. We'll have to use most of the steel for ourselves. If we wind up making over abundance of steel then we'll see about selling some of it off.

>>25812835
i lost track of what i was saying in a few places, hopefully it doesn't make it too difficult to understand. if not, i can make a new one and delete this one to make it hopefully easier to understand. sorry for any potential inconvenience.

>>25812870
i think you guys need to stop circlejerking your big lockdown story by rewriting it for the tenth time and learn to relax a bit, no one said a thing about taking on /nasa/ in any way.

we are building a battle blimp because its a FUCKING BATTLE BLIMP and its cool.

this thing will most likely end up in the hands of some onobot who is gonna become a diplomat for the owl rebublic or some such and he is a bit timid and doesn't wanna leave a bad first impression and so he had this battle blimp created as a glorified taxi to impress the rebublic who might find it cool too

>>25808286
Hey anon, deadbeat here, we've got entries on how chuubanite interacts with the human body. https://rentry.org/puuqw#mori-chuubanite-deficiency
Funnily, once the transformation is complete the bone density is one of the few adaptations that will probably stick around, because the cellular turnover of mineralized skeletal cells is slow.
Moriji chuubanite has affinities with hard materials, especially minerals. It bonds the most strongly with diamonds, and then other minerals such as those found in skeletons. The dirt all over the island contains some chuubanite, and this chuubanite diffuses into the air and water to an extent, but the concentration in the air is quite low comparatively because the chuubanite will tend to bond with hard materials instead. The dirt in the Underworld just has so much chuubanite it saturates even the air in the area.
I should make an entry focusing just on chuubanite...

>>25813118
that make's sense, but didn't we have talks about different species, i think it was birds and plants, that would help circulate the chuubanite on your island? what were the details of that again?

>>25812835
>as i have repeatedly stated, chuubanite's effects are far too useful for it to not influence natural selection when life almost inevitably evolved the ability to make use of it.
NTA, but this part is the one thing he disagrees with. Not all chuubanite is necessarily useful for lifeforms, and not all lifeforms necessarily require chuubanite to live. You're saying it's too useful to not be fundamental to life, but there is nothing in the lore that makes this an absolute truth.

>>25813255
Ah yes! The birds that that migrate through the island and shit the chuubanite they ingest so they can keep flying. I think the diffusion of the chuubanite through brownian motion, hydrological processes and quantic fields would be more significant overall, but you might have chuubanite hot spots where those birds live.
I should make a rentry for those birds too, that was an awesome idea.

>>25813105
When /nasa/ manages to make tons of steel we can't use we're open to sell it for other materials we can't get like aluminum, tin, copper, titanium, and other space age materials. Even gold as a material can be useful.

>inb4 make graphine instead

>>25813286
it's not about the lore, it's about how life itself works. why are organisms made of carbon and not silicon? why not some other random element? it's because of the functions that carbon uniquely enables that it serves the role it does in life. >>25799494

>>25812835
>i responded the way i did when you first made that argument because i never made that argument to begin with.
>>25794002
>it wouldn't be a stretch to say that removing chuubanite would have a similar effect on all life, from the magical to the mundane, as removing one of the 4 amino acids associated with dna. there wouldn't be any life to survive after all chuubanite disappeared
>chuubanite's effects are far too useful for it to not influence natural selection when life almost inevitably evolved the ability to make use of it.
Life does not give a shit about what is useful or not, it just grabs things from the enviroment and sees what can be done, horses and giraffes and humans all have the same number of bones, whatever changes happen would still end up taking place over millions of years that have NOT HAPPENED. We have shit from millions of years ago that has no real purpose
>loss of affinity
Under YOUR interpretation, which is what i'm currently shitting on.
>i'm starting to think you are making arguments in bad faith. >>25800024
>literally did you even read any of what i said?
If you do notice that was in response to this >>25804878 particular post where it reads
>2) chuubanite has existed from the beginning of both /vt/ and /jp/.
>the problem is that the lore of practically every nation is set in a way that would necessitate this level of abundance.
It isn't, where the fuck did you even get this idea? Please do explain to me, how did you come to this conclusion. As of now, chuubanite has been described in a variety of ways, but none that imply the complete butt fucking of the current world and its physics. This "Supposed solution" to something that isn't even a problem.

>>25813501
Well, anon if you want to go ultra-science about stuff, you have to back it up. Why is chuubanite a fundamental building block of life instead of being more like uranium, lead or platinum, which are present in trace amounts basically everywhere, and have potentially useful applications, but are not necessary for life? If you remove chuubanite, by what physical process would lifeforms die? And why would all our lifeforms be so similar to their IRL analogues if they used a different building block at their most fundamental level?

>>25813472
The Retro Reich is always open to trade and we certainly will love steel for all kidns of things sicne we do not need to improve every little thing with chuubanite like a fork or some nails for a cupboard.

but since our chuubanite improves the quality of things depending on emotional and memorable attachment to it we will need to collect some of historys most worthwhile things to rework it into this battle blimp so we can drasticly improve it woith our chuubanite and make the battle blimp work as intended so automated steel with no attachment whatsoever would actually be weaker than what we plan

>>25814049
>soulless sanallite chinesium
>SOVLFUL /VRT/ DEADBEAT STEEL FOLDED 10000 TIMES

>>25813473
Its clearly a festival dedicated to death and rebirth put together by takamori, Mori , and Kiara worshipers

>>25814323
top kek

>>25814531
Difficult question:
Since we are talking about threads and not fanbases, How are your planning to integrate the part of kfp that was determined not to merge?

Because, and I’ll try to be careful here, the negative opinion on taka(mori) in the split (not the entire fanbase, or in hlgg) is neither a new nor uncommon sentiment

LIFE IS EASY

>>25814531
Yeah, something along those lines is the main idea. Probably would be located in /kfp/, since Mori went to Austria and all the food was german. Maybe something about Deadbeats loving /kfp/ cats.
>>25814926
Heh, yeah, guess we gotta walk on eggshells kek in that regard. /tkmr/ itself was pretty calm, but maybe the popular sentiment in /kfp/ as such was negative? I guess this'll only happen if there's a KFP to provide input, so it's a good representation of the event.
I don't mind /kfp/ acting hateful towards the deadbeat incursion, I think it's good narrative and adds a bit of interesting conflict to what could be an overly fluffy piece of lore.

>>25814926
>Since we are talking about threads and not fanbases, How are your planning to integrate the part of kfp that was determined not to merge?
How is that difficult? they just didn't arrive or show up. Make it so that takamori worshipers put together the festival and that attracted people from /morig/ and /kfp/. Its not a festival thats been thrown on by either countries but by a small subset of worshipers that ends up drawing in others.

>>25815070
I'm not a writer, obviously maybe wait for mountain enjoyer to comment or any other /kfp/, but why not just have it happen as a festival in the /hlgg/ center region since in many ways a /takamori/ is just as much of an off shoot as the two splits

>>25815158 (me)
>>25815070
Actually looking at the map maybe a port city in /kfp/ would be best if one of them shows up to collaborate

>>25815070
>gotta walk on eggshells
Dadjokebeat…
>KFP to provide input
I am, that’s why I carefully asked, because I really don’t want to bring drama to this thread
I would like to go provide further input but I will probably have to go to sleep and then work tomorrow

>>25813594
>Life does not give a shit about what is useful or not
>>25802155
>it's a matter of time, and chance, but that chance is quite high, especially when you consider the fact that this is taking place over such a long period of time, and between two different realms of existence.
>>25802155
>we already have dragoons and roseys, and possibly the owls if /who/ decides to go through with it, not to mention the dragon/tortoises that /nasa/ has been enjoying for a while
>Please do explain to me, how did you come to this conclusion
diffusion and the laws of physics.
>but none that imply the complete butt fucking of the current world and its physics.
we established that it's less radioactive than we thought, and it only has it's magical effects under certain conditions, namely those described in the chuubanite rentry. it would break physics, and prior lore more to hand wave the abundance of chuubanite in some places than to just say it's more abundant that we initially said it was.
if you want, you can say that, since lead is fairly abundant, and since it cancels the magic effects, assuming we are taking that as canon (which i am in favor of) that therefore most chuubanite isn't in the right condition to have much of any kind of effect besides it's natural effects as a substance, in which case, ya, i could accept that as an excuse for why it would be less necessary for some organisms, but to say it isn't necesary, you would need to address, and then put limitations on speculative biology. limitations are useful for creativity, but as someone decrying the realism of this well grounded magic system for being too limiting, you would be a hypocrite to support such a compromise.
>>25813657
two worlds. billions of years. a substance that can controllably make use of what is effectively nuclear power at a small scale. all it takes is a single instance of a cell to make use of it and the arms race is on. the effect could be small, maybe it's more like how a deficiency in zinc or iron can kill you, but life as we know it would be radically different with the existence of such a substance.
if you want me to explain in detail exactly how an alien biology would make use of an alien element the likes of which we have never seen, then i must apologize, for i do not have the same level of expertise as /rose/anon when it comes to speculative biology, but if you can't see the clear evolutionary incentives, the high likelihood of occurrence, and that biology most certainly could develop in a way that made basic functions more efficient using chuubanite, then there isn't much i can personally give you at the moment. that is sure to change the more we think about it, but i'm guessing that wouldn't be sufficient for you.
just remember all the things chuubanite can do, from generating heat, to creating kinetic force, to generating light. all this being the more natural, universal abilities of it. imagine how many biological functions could be made more efficient with a substance like that. if the base biological functions that are integral to the most basic expressions of life rely this much on chuubanite, which would likely be the case if natural selection and chance allowed for it, then imagine what would happen in the hypothetical scenario that all of this element suddenly stopped working, even ignoring the explosion idea this whole discussion was born from.
if you think this isn't how evolution works, so be it, maybe my understanding of evolution is wrong, in which case i would love it if you would teach me, but this seems so utterly intuitive to me that i can't see it going any other way given the setting we have. at the very least, lets try to come to a compromise to see if the disagreements between us can be resolved.

>>25815468
Ah, I wouldn't worry about that! That's the beautiful thing about /vtwbg/, there's this layer of separation. We can write about thread drama, without having drama in the thread. We only have drama over chuubanite metaphysics and Kronies.
I have a few ideas for angles that the /kfp/ resistance could go. There were quite a few people who thought the collabs wouldn't happen at all, maybe they could be represented? Or, perhaps there could have been some raids on the festival location, a couple /kfp/molotovs thrown in. Though it doesn't feel like /kfp/ intruded on /tkmr/, maybe it would be more accurate to have some unrest and deadbeat/takamori worshipper persecution in the /kfp/ population centers instead.
Gotta keep in mind that with the way our time works, even if the visit was just two days IRL, it could have been weeks, maybe months in Vitubia.

>>25815600
>two worlds.
For a start, that's three words kek.
Alright, let me provide a few examples of how the universe can have something insanely useful, and not have life use it.
Two words: Piezoelectric Crystals.
Many natural crystals display piezoelectricity, quartz is the most common and well known.
Piezo electric crystals can transform strain into electricity, and electricity into strain. Through this, they can create noise, vibrate at extremely precise frequencies, and act as a powerful actuator.
Instances of organisms using piezoelectricity? Nothing, nada. I'm sure there's a bacteria out there that might do some weird shit with it, but for all means and purposes, piezoelectric crystals can be removed from the Earth, and all life will go on as it always has.
One word: Electricity.
This seems like an obvious one. Electricity lets you make motors, which have a much better power density than biochemical muscles. It also lets you transmit signals much faster than our neural system. It also lets you make circuits, which can make huge amounts of computations. Uses of electricity in life forms? Vanishingly rare. Some fish use it, like electric eels, and some sharks are sensitive to electrical fields. But by and large, electrical current is not used to do anything in nature.

I'd say chuubanite is similar to piezoelectric crystals and electricity.
You want chuubanite to generate a kinetic force, or do computations? You need to organize it as a glyph or as a circuit, which is too complex to occur naturally through evolution.
You want it to generate heat? Why? Dissipating heat tends to be more of a problem for most life forms, they don't need something to generate even more heat.
Generating light? Why? Bioluminescence is an extremely niche evolution found in few animals.
Basically, even if chuubanite can do amazing things, and is available, evolution is not necessarily going to be able to exploit those capabilities.

>>25816262
that's a fair point. as far as glyphs go, even if they are naturally formed, they would likely deform rather quickly over generations from the effects of mutations, and even over a life span depending on how complex the glyph might be, but that still leaves activator substances. still, this is a very well-argued rebuttal, so i should commend you for that.
i hadn't considered the conditions necessary to be met to be all that difficult for biology to replicate. with that in mind, i can definitely see it being less prevalent in nature than i initially suspected, though it still has enough room to form, and would still have an evolutionary advantage, that advantage would not be as overpowering due to it's overall rarity in nature, so it doesn't need to put as much limitations on speculative biology besides saying it is rare, we can get around the amount of magical creatures we make being large by saying there are even more non-magical creatures we haven't brought as much attention to that could even any imbalance. this sounds like an acceptable compromise to me, at least so far. what are your thoughts on it?

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„My fellow bots, if I may have a moment, I think I have information that will prove to be a foolproof solution to this problem.“


„„OHH““ with big anticipation, the onobots look to their fellow brethren.


„You see, I have heard rumors that very soon we will be visited by Risuners that hail from the grand Trade road where we trade with /meat/. These Risuners seem to be an incredibly fertile folk from the reports I have received. All we must do is have homework made of them to inspire our people, and very soon we will receive the greatest boon to our population we have ever seen. It is by all calculations a foolproof plan.“


„This sounds very logical, does anyone have any problems with this plan?“


Not a single hand was raised, and the bots were in full agreement that this was the best plan possibly.


„WAITRESS THE CHECK PLEASE POSTHASTE, WE MUST HURRY TO THE PORT AND DRAW NAKED SQUIRREL PEOPLE TO SAVE THE NATION!!!“


-


At the biggest port of the capital, a bunch of Onobots were standing motionless, looking out to the open sea.


„RG-083, are sure about those rumors of the Risuners?“


„I am certain that I have heard of such a thing, yes.“


„And did these rumors also include a timeframe of when they would come?“


„I am afraid not.“


„So they could be arriving at any moment?“


„That is a possibility, yes“


„Well then we better wait just to make sure.“


And so they waited...

>>25817461
well that took more space than i was expecting ups

>>25817461
we have been summoned

>>25807208
>>25817461
We always welcome new connoisseurs...

>>25817334
Yes, I think that would work and be in-line with the lore we have so far. I mean, clearly Sanallites would write about the dragon tortoises instead of like, the lemmings and the earthworms. But there's probably lemmings and earthworms out there. Since Vitubia is very analogous to Earth, there certainly is a big chunk of the biosphere that is very similar to IRL fauna and flora that we simply don't write about.

>>25818808
not to mention two (three?) worlds of potential biodiversification, since we don't know if we brought any animals with us, though consideration for invasive species should occur before deciding on such things.

>>25814049
I can think of some steel things that has lots of memories in /nasa/. Problem is those steel things are technology /nasa/ cannot part with.

>>25818949
please don't release space jumping spiders into the world.

>>25818808
we should probably archive this if it is going to be our agreed upon compromise, as >>25809310 said. i'll let you do the honors if you don't mind.

>>25819018
>Today Lammington Station has burned down to the ground after Sanalites combat an infestation of deadly poisinous jumping spiders.

>>25815600
>especially when you consider the fact that this is taking place over such a long period of time
It is not taking place over a long enough period of time to the point where it would affect the constitution of life itself. It is taking place over thousands of years from the moment Kizuna AI affects the world, and we both know that it's not nearly enough time for it to become an integral part of life of every living being. All examples you've given are creatures that use chuubanite, they aren't made of chuubanite.
On diffusion and the laws of physics, I was going to make an example using methane and micro-plastics but this >>25816262 guy states things in a much better way than I could do, just because it exists and it could be useful doesn't mean that the body will use it or evolve to use it. Especially things like methane that do exist in deposits but you don't breath in enough methane for it to kill you or for the body to use it.
>you would need to address, and then put limitations on speculative biology
This does already happen, the rosebud was investigating a lot on a more plausible dragon design, the sanallites debated a lot between themselves on how to make the turtles work. Now, I'll be as clear as possible with my point here, having chuubanite be everywhere and affect everything is more limiting than having it be in deposits, because when writing things, you will always have to consider "Just how does chuubanite affect this?", as opposed to "Should I have chuubanite affect this?", using chuubanite is up to the writers, we should not force it over them.
Sorry if I took long with this reply, but I got a little busy.

>>25804649
>And would risuners know it to be the magic stuff?
This brings up an interesting question. What does chuubanite even look like anyway? How does one recognize/detect it in the first place?
>>25807208
not a plutocrat but afaik /meat/ products aren't actually illegal in /nasfaqg/. They seem pretty "anything goes" from what I can tell, as long as it turns a profit. That being said, having a separate VIP section for more exotic cuisines does seem very /nasfaqg/ian.

>>25819206
Sure:
>>25727196
Anchor in meta rentry:
Unvoted discussion on the presence and use of chuubanite in lifeforms.
>>25813657
>>25815600
>>25816262
>>25817334
>>25818808

Fuck it! Space Aussies will never escape the scourge of deadly poisonous jumping spiders. Next animal to study is the giant Arctic Tundra Spider.

>>25820003

I decided "Mori magic makes thinks cold and schizo", skimmed the chuubanite document once, then wrote my first loreposts and have been gucci ever since. Anyway I'm gonna write a /tkmr/ piece

>>25819458
>It is taking place over thousands of years from the moment Kizuna AI affects the world
billions, were you here when we decided the timeline? also, i've come to a resolution on this.
>having chuubanite be everywhere and affect everything is more limiting than having it be in deposits, because when writing things, you will always have to consider "Just how does chuubanite affect this?", as opposed to "Should I have chuubanite affect this?"
you're not very good with these kinds of arguments, are you? i take it you're the guy i've been debating this whole time, and >>25816262 is some new guy who popped in unannounced. please read all relevant text at least three times over before you make any more statements, and make sure you are using the correct definition of words before you use them. if there are words in use that you don't know, please look up their definitions. i don't mean to be rude, but it's hard not to sound like i am when you never seem to say anything at all relevant to what is actually being argued or even discussed, and situations like this leave me just plain confused.

>>25820088
Based lorebeat. Godspeed.

>>25820124
and i strongly recall a vote that came to the conclusion that it was both in everything, and in deposits, which is made more likely given that /morig/ has their chuubanite naturally in the air and nobody brought up any disagreements with it for all this time. why is this discussion continuing?

>>25819747
I imagine risuners would probably see it as another ore and just store it aside or if possible they would sense its magical power and it could be a secret that this is the magic rock that grants /risu/ its power.

RISUNERS!!! I FOUND COLD NUTS!!!
>>25704527

>>25820124
Fine then, whatever, I'll say it easy.
Chuubanite everywhere is boring and limiting.
Making chuubanite a "building block" of life comparable to amino acids is a frankly retarded idea.
The thing you are proposing is too universal and not friendly to worldbuilding because it forces chuubanite on to everything in the world.
That's what I'm saying.
What am I not understanding?
What am I failing to explain?
Oh do sincerely feel free to write an easier explanation, because you do not write things that are easy to understand, you write like a fucking maniac and constantly go over your own definitions in the same sentence.

>>25820351
This vote?
https://rentry.org/2mv3a

>Is Chuubanite only found in the ground initially, then spread around by plants/humans/bacteria/planetary natural processes, or does everything inherently have Chuubanite in them, like mana?
Summary: Multiple suggestions, converge on Chuubanite being a mineral that originates from the ground and has spread around the globe
Because this does not imply that chuubanite is in everything.

>>25822825
O SHIT

>>25822926

>>25823412
the comic sans just adds so much to it.

>>25823257
/nasa/ CAN FINALLY NUT OUTSIDE!!!

Speculative biology Sanalite. I have a job for you. We need to do research into these.

>>25825146

>I missed another chuubanite war
dammit

>>25817461
Kek I love onobots, they're fucking hilarious. My favorite part is how they're treated by the rest of the population.

>>25793497
Well that's a lot of words you managed to trigger

>>25825667
He probably didnt post again after kek.

>>25825706
I sure hope not

>>25825219
Sana's worst nightmare.

>>25825667
all because i posted MAGIC IS EVERYTHNG

>>25727196 (holy shit anchoring)

Diana logs ch 5.

Ok. I think I've finally made a decision. If these guys wanted to sacrifice us they surely would have done so by now. We are all still alive and able to roam around one of their big cities at will and they even prepared special accommodations for us. It's like they knew we were coming or just prepared very quickly
It is finally clear to me that our former enemies now see us as valuable allies like the rest of the world seems to. If I take logistics into account and simple math, then their crops take 3 times as long to grow as ours. No wonder all the other nations seem to like us so much. All their food and trees take ages to grow. We dominate the fruit and lumber markets.

Aside from that I think I finally came to my senses as to why they wanted their own risuners among their people. Naturally we are fast runners and amazing tree climbers compared to everyone else. I guess they wanted our natural speed in their hunter ranks? Makes sense when you think about it.

Out of everyone in the crew I think there are only 2 people left who still want to see everyone here dead. But even they are starting to have doubts after seeing the gems and the room accommodations. Not to mention the nuts here are quite tasty. The meat that they usually eat is actually surprisingly good. Sometimes I forget that some risuners do like to hunt animals back home for food on occasion.
Their magic is a whole other story. I never knew exactly they utilized what they do with raided people and to be quite honest, I really don't intend on finding out. From my limited research however it seems to be some sort of magic that deals with life and enhances their bodies even further. I could be completely wrong but that is what it looks like. They seem to have to do it manually and their tattoos are also a factor.

Now on to the gems. These gems they have on display here is really impressive. Not only are the colors really nice but they have been cut to look as presentable as possible. Obviously someone went out of their way to present these to us. Did these guys know we were coming all along? Guess were not a sneaky as we thought. Anyway the gems are what the witches seek and they pay some damn good nuts for them so I told the shop owner I would like as much variety as possible. One of each if that was possible.
I even told him because risuners value gem variety over having a lot of a specific kind that risuners would be willing to give a helping hand around the town for the few months longer that we are willing to stay. He seemed pretty pleased with the offer as far as I can tell.

The last thing of noticeable interest is of course nut exchanging. Although I know it's every risuners responsibility to exchange nuts with other cultures and tradition (not to mention I'm really eager to get some action as it's been a while) I just can't for some reason. Something just doesn't feel right. If it gets really bad I might hook up with one of their risuners just to get it out of my system. I know half my crew by this point has already been getting their nuts in with the locals already.

If they ask of it in exchange for the gems then fuck it I'll do it. All of them looked beautiful and it would earn me an insane amount of nuts back home so why the fuck not.

>>25826892
Risuners dodged being introduced to the fleshwrights, lucky. Nice log!

>>25826892
>glances over meat chuubanite capabilities to describe the prettiness of their gems and her acquisition of them
>immediately vents about her needs for nut
Oh Diana, you fuzzy

I wonder if Risuners would be interested in Moissanite, despite it being a mostly man-made gem. It can appear naturally in meteorites. I read there are also Black Diamonds that come from space via supernovas.

>>25827980
Behind the scenes fun fact from /morig/ lore fag: the source of the toughness of Mont Mori diamonds is that the chuubanite promotes an amorphous crystalline network in the diamond, inspired by IRL carbonado (black diamonds).

>>25827980
PRETTY GEMS of all kinds are appreciated

>>25826892
this particular picture of Risuner tail inspires me to write nut exchange erotica or lacking that force feed Novel Ai lorepost until it can reliably make it for me

>>25829097
risu is very erotic indeed

is anyone from /who/ or /nasa/ willing to sacc an npc (or multiple) for the sake of /uuu/ lore?

>>25829441
By the rate it's going on in /who/, not at all...

>>25829441
no? we would be fucking pissed

>>25829441
What the hell does sacc mean?

>>25828515
Interesting. Because one of the theories about black diamonds in Brazil came from a meteorite impact before the continent split. Meteor was possibly debris from a supernova. I don't know if /morig/'s pre-history would have a meteorite impact on Mt. Mori or not. Man the more I research meteorites the more I keep thinking about pre-history. There was a time when meteor impacts where common when the solar system was young. Most meteorites are found buried underground for millions of years.

Also I would assume iron-nickel meteorites would make terrible scythe heads. They'd be pretty at least if made right.

>>25829555
wait, did I miss something? I thought had been quiet the last few days, only /nasa/ has been stirring

>>25829658
Second. I don't know these zoomer words.

>>25829720
Don't worry about it

>>25829658
>>25829756
sacrifice

>>25829720
A couple of hoomans have announced they are returning to nature. Or maybe it's just the regular druids proselytizing

>>25829825
Oh right, dunno, I was planning on writing something about a hunter and a fairy nymph. If the other hooman agrees then sure.
>>25829869
Its just shitposters, they all go in the salad with the brats anyways.

>>25829703
DEADBEAT NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE

>>25829441
>>25829825
Well then, the answer is no. /nasa/ is limited with who we have. And Sanalites would choke to death from swollen throats before they transform Saplings.

>>25829825
Wait... saplings do human sacrifices now too? Deadbeat won't be happy depending on the methods...

>>25829908
They can run parallel to each other. /who/ and /uuu/ have enough history and relations (also enough bodies) that there can be hooman npcs that willingly sacrifice themselves due to various reasons.

>>25830050
What i was planning is a tad different than that. I'll try to materialize the story when I can since it's mainly focused on research, I'm not a great writer, you see.

>>25829977
understandable, I asked because I didnt want to impede

>>25830050
no, I was just thinking about writing a couple of horror stories in the /uuu/ woods, but it would make more sense if outsiders got lost in them
Im willing to kill saplings in the stories though, thats fine

I have an idea for a Sapling who has a large flower on her back that forms like butterfly wings. She can't fly, but she can glide from tree to tree.

Also for some reason I think of Saplings as half-naked tree women.

>>25830262
from our lore so far, it takes a while for saplings to metamorphize, and its generally a whole body thing, not just single appendages

>>25830217
Don't worry, I'm also crap at writing.

>>25830233
That makes a bit more sense than /nasa/ losing an entire team in the woods. Maybe it's a team of poachers or a private expedition that has gone wrong. Most larger-scale expeditions would most likely involve a lot of planning with local saplings guides since they are organised by state bodies.

>>25830426
Saplings would also be able to live longer than humans right? And they would be able to retain their youth longer as their bodies synchronize with the trees.

>>25830550
>Maybe it's a team of poachers or a private expedition that has gone wrong
yeah this was exactly along my line of thinking
I wouldnt do anything crazy, just a single death or two to show the process

>>25830577
live longer, yes
but as humans... that depends on your definition of human...

>>25830550
Also /nasa/ tomorrow will send a team of 5 sanalites and 2 bread dogs to deliver a wagon of ice-cream sandwiches. We also need to pick up the trash one of our Sanalites dumped in the woods.

>>25822926
sorry i was late to respond. it is not limiting, you are using the wrong word for it. what you mean to say is that it is tedious. adding a new question to ask is fundamentally incapable of limiting your response, especially since we have apparently confirmed that lead disables chuubanite, and that the degree of how influential chuubanite is is now less, though all i was originally proposing was that the fundamental aspects of life might use chuubanite as a short cut to save energy.
it is friendly to world building, it might not be friendly to newcomers and people who are too lazy to care about world building, in which case they can ask for help from people who are more interested in this topic. your first response to me was you apparently assuming my example of how powerful diffusion could be was actually me saying that life is specifically dependent on julius ceasar's last breath, completely ignoring the fact that i had already made my arguments for why, provided chuubanite was sufficiently abundant even outside of "regions of high prevalence", life would naturally evolve in such a way that it would become dependant on it.
i have since changed my mind after someone with a higher caliber of argumentation showed me that it might be more complex than i initially assumed. i have conceded that point, and now hold a different opinion.
your entire line of argumentation was strawman after strawman, failing repeatedly to address anything that i said, or acknowledge the fact that i even said them. in fact, it seems like you haven't payed much attention to any of these discussions since the beginning, since i can't find much indication that you were aware of anything i didn't explicitly tell you. the whole thing was a rather pathetic display, to be quite frank.
>converge on Chuubanite being a mineral that originates from the ground and has spread around the globe
how many of the different suggestions did you read? carbon is found in the ground, it is also one of the fundamental building blocks of life. our answer was effectively a combination of the options, that it is an element that is spread naturally everywhere, that everything doesn't inherently have chuubanite, but that it is in more or less everything. this is why /morig/ can have chuubanite in it's air.
do you literally think i have been saying that chuubanite has to be inherent to every single thing, without a single exception. that would be yet another olympian error on your part. that's the whole point of bringing up ceasar. if you read even the most immediate predecessor of that response you would have figured it out. pretty much, your entire tactic has been to grossly misrepresent my argument and repeatedly attack a strawman without so much as listening or acknowledging a single fact that contradicted you, even going so far as to butcher the definition of words to make arguments that sound more impactful than they actually are.
>you write like a fucking maniac and constantly go over your own definitions in the same sentence.
at least i provide my definitions, and try to be comprehensive with my responses. to be honest, ever since the matter has been settled, you have become irrelevant to this discussion. the only reason i am continuing it is to give you critiques on your elementary style of argumentation, but i suspect even that will fall on deaf ears, all too eager to interpret whatever the hell you want. in times like these, picrel is a good analogy to my condition. i'll try to be bigger than that from now on, if i can.

>>25831148
Damn paragraphsanon I can't say I always agree with you, but that's a sick fucking reaction picture, based and saved.

>>25831437
it's been around for ages, to the point where i had to remove the ifunny.co from the bottom, that ugly thing sucks but thanks for the compliment, i guess.

>>25831148
The entirety of your arguments are long winded rants on pseudo-scientifical basis and things you supposedly remember. You are a self-deluded retard with a superiority complex, you explain away your inability to properly make arguments by locking yourself out of them and assuring yourself of your own victory. You even pat yourself for the proposition that another person made.
Of course, we do not have anything to discuss anymore due to the explanation of the previous person. Truly, we are done here.
Also: this guy >>25804934 and >>25805531 aren't me.

This isn't a space gem, but it does appear near the tundra mountains in Russia. I was wondering if /nasa/, rbc, or /rrat/ can find Alexandrite.

>>25825146
You know what, NO. This is where I draw the line. It was hard enough to think up a way to get reptilian tortoises up to the frigid north, how the fuck am I supposed to do that with giant insects? Make them related to dragons as well, so they have the same organ? The Idea of giant insects is silly to begin with, since they would need to develop a whole different way to recieve oxygen into their system, namely lungs.I'm still gonna be forced to do this entry in the end, no matter how much I complain, huh?

ALSO TO THE GUYS ARGUING ABOUT CHUUBANITE AGAIN, you can suck my fat 13 inch space dick, I am using it in my animal entries at my leisure. Won't be everywhere, but there will be animals that consume and use it, specially as a source of heat, like the Mossbacks I wrote up.

>>25830233
Ok, you had my curiosity when you mentioned killing Sanallites, but now you have my undivided attention. I can lend you an npc, one that would venture out from Lamington soon. Killing him however, would be an entirely different matter. Let's discuss this further, if you are still here.

>>25830233
Also, I like the way you think. I already had a /uuu/ deep wood horror entry rolling in my head for a couple of days now, Thought some parts on the same shift I thought up the bad end for /nasa/. Would still have to get down to write it, however. And then channel my inner UUUU and get some fauna images to post it MUAHAHAHA!!!(jk ofc)

>>25835033
I read a bit of speculative evolution a while back that possibly, instead of evolving lungs, insects could further evolve their spiracle-based circulation system to increase its surface area by having it grow in sacs on the outside of the body. The idea is that in evolution, mutating an existing system is usually "easier" than evolving a new system. Those sacs would be mostly be air-filled, and thus would act as good thermal isolation, and the arctic cold would also be a supplementary evolutionary pressure to make the spiders bigger, as larger animals have a smaller area:volume ratio, which is beneficial if you want to preserve heat.
Just an idea from a non-sanallite, feel free to ignore. The spiracles could also simply grow small and numerous enough to essentially offer the same surface area and diffusion characteristics as lung alveoli.

>>25835033
Well, they don't have to be giant. They can be tiny spiders. As the arctic tundra is full of insects during the summer they also have spiders to eat them. And giant spiders are simply impossible in this current atmosphere. Now if we're dealing with another planet rich in oxygen then that's a different story. I wanted an excuse to post Frostbite Spiders.

As for the horror story you'll need a suit malfunction.

>>25835809
>And giant spiders are simply impossible in this current atmosphere.
Tch tch tch, few things are impossible, if your worldbuilding science autism is strong enough. I think it's plausible. >>25835737
They'd make for great mounts once deadbeats get up there.

>>25835737
Wait, I retract my statement, apparently these fuckers have LUNGS. That solves one problem, I guess, oxygen intake. Heat I can work around, just like I did with Mossbacks. And yea, I usually try to tie in some sort of a mutation for existing/vestigial systems instead of creating a new one, since it's quicker(by evolution standards), and simpler. That's why our tortoises are actually related to all draconic species on the planet, with drakes being their closest cousins, followed by full dragons.

>>25835737
give them veins to diffuse via capillaries and a heart then just attach them to the air sacs, and boom lungs. would this work? idk there are other evolutionary pressures to stay small, like birds, but it would be cool

>>25835897
I think the size spiders got on earth was small cat-sized. And that was only due to the crazy amount of oxygen during that time period. Since the atmosphere is on par with modern day earth I don't think spiders will get bigger than tarantulas. That said if >>25835737 is plausible then we may see spiders get to be small dog sized.

>>25836087
I have to unleash my autism and specify these aren't lungs in the proper sense of the word, but yes, insects have more complex breathing systems than they get credit for.
Other ideas: spiders are godly ambush predators. I could see them taking the niche of polar bears in ice shelf ecosystems, waiting in ambush for seal-like creatures coming up to breathe.
>>25836195
Tarantulas got up to cat-size, but that isn't the limit of what a chitin-based exoskeleton can support. Centipedes show shit could get pretty freaky with the right evolutionary pressure.

>>25836087
>>25836348
Spiders also have hair. Perhaps their hair can protect them from the cold as well.

>>25836458
woolly spiders..

>>25836195
You know, the more I look at it, the more possible it seems. Since the generations pass quickly, and there would be a veritable mountain of them, mutations are bound to arise in great number. And over time, they could develop a muscle that would contract their book lungs, turning them into real, human-like lungs. They even have muscles, the little fuckers.
So that would solve the bigger problem of the two if we wanna make them big. As for heat, could make them summertime predators only, and make them hybernate from early autumn to late spring, or simply make them really, really hairy, and able to retain what little heat they capture from outside sources. Make it so they have to take shelter every so often in warm corpses to capture heat, and make them a little smaller, maybe the size of large cats.

>>25836348
>>25836458
Man, we really do think alike, huh?

>>25836484
Imagine if we can use the spider's carpace and wool as building materials. Perhaps their venom can also be useful in synthesizing medicine.

>>25836458
>>25836484
>>25836657
MAMMOTH SPIDERS LET’S GO

>>25836348
Also, allow me to unleash my autism in return and point out spiders are not insects, but arachnids. 2 extra legs, one less body part and 6 more eyes. Also no antennae or wings(thank fucking god).

>>25836657
I like the hibernation idea since it gives an in-universe reason for why we haven't seen them yet. First /nasa/ had to work together to survive winter, then the civil war arc hit, and finally when it looks like things might get better, bam! Giant spiders out of nowhere.

>>25836713
So that baby mammoth we rescued was actually a mammoth spider, huh? neat. I'm chuckling just thinking about our rep's reaction to that info, since he wrote the entries for that, not me.

>>25836696
what if because of their size they could produce thicker silk? perhaps a sort of soft armor? this is assuming that webbing is viable at that size lest they eat like huntsmen spiders

>>25836893
And they would flock to the station like nothing else, with the heat and all...

>>25836713
A full adult male mammoth would be excellent for tundra spider to lay their egg sacks in. The corpse would provide heat and insulation as the insides liquify. Once hatched the babies have food for the chilly spring. Though the carcass would be wrapped in silk for extra protection.

Speaking of silk it might actually be useful as a building material due to the sheer size of the threads. Hell spiders may be deadly but perhaps there's a way to use them after all. Or we can just set fire to everything like good old Austrailians do with spider infestations.

>>25837013
>sanalites tame the spiders within days

>>25836976
>giant spider manages to make its way into the station
>welp, time to burn it all down
at least it will bring a swift end to the civil war

>>25836976
Well that's one reason we can't return to the station.

>>25836921
No she was a mammoth. That said if the spiders catch an adult mammoth they'll use it for food and a nest.

>>25837065
Good thing the station is mostly fireproof. Though that would mean everything else in the hull gets destroyed.

>>25836963
I would make them eat and hunt without producing silk, probably. Since their prey would be a lot larger, the silk would have to be magnitudes stronger to hunt effectively. And having them produce silk only for nests seems kinda wasteful from an evolutionary point of view. Idk, this is all just talks for now, I have yet to even open a rentry. Not like they are the first animal on the list, anyway. Still got the wooly drake, deer species(kirin subspecies perchance?) and mammoths(might just be this desu, I really like the idea) to write up.

>>25837134
Well yea, she was a mammoth (spider). You just don't want to admit you secretly really liked caring for the little thing if it was a spider, huh?

>>25837060
>Sanallite diplomat strolls into /who/ embassy with a cat-sized spider on a leash

>>25836875
You're correct! Proper terms would have been arthropods or arachnids.

>>25836713
I fucking love that spec. evolution youtube series. Top tier stuff.

>>25837332
Deers would be more like reindeer or moose. And we can have both mammoths and mammoth spiders. Hell having spiders look like mammoths may provide an evolutionary advantage. And spiders using silk for nests and egg sacks is still plausible. They won't use the nests to hunt. The nests are more for food storage.

>>25837332
Regarding the silk, I imagine it would have more to do with what kind of spiders these evolved from. If the spinnerets were already present, then they would probably remain in the larger species unless they proved to be a detriment. Evolution wouldn't bother getting rid of the web unless it had a reason to, so I imagine it would probably remain for nests and such as >>25837558 said.

>>25837558
Oh alright, I'll let you off the hook, you can get your mammoths. Also realizes that making them that big could put quite a strain on the ecosystem(specially if they are numerous) as they are purely carnivorous. Guess cat-sized spiders is what we get.

Also, regarding the kirin, which I still want to make our deer species evolve from, they can be as scaly or deer-like as the artist depicting them wants, so I would imagine our own being something like pic related. Would also make use of an event I already mentioned with Mossbacks, the warm period of around 5 million years ago, when what is today /nasa/ was covered mostly in dense forests, much like /uuu/ is to this day. And as the climate became colder, some /uuu/ tortoises and kirins simply adapted instead of retreating with the forest.

>>25837889
Yea, the direction I wanted to take it in was for the females to produce silk when they lay eggs, while males just completely lost the ability.

>>25838535
I thought mammoths were herbivores, or omnivores at least. As for wooly mammoths they're on the verge of extinction. There's not many of them left and they reproduce so rarely that they can't replenish their numbers.

>>25838535
/uuu/'s kirins are actually small I think. Small kirins are easier to hide in the forest than big kirins.

>>25819747
the way i understand it, while they would not actively stop it or discourage it from happening it would still be considered "illegal" and not something to just offer on the open market.

>>25825553
i really started to enjoy writing them in a bit of a comic releif style. interestingly enough the population as a whole really love the onobots since they are very benevelont rulers that keep low taxes and actually try to do helpful things, even if sometimes in questionable ways. its just that having to deal with them directly can be quite the headache.

>>25840380
new bread