/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

ah peace

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>114,132: Salome (Nijisanji)
>108,308: Salome (Nijisanji)
>71,446: Miko (Hololive)
>63,628: Masaru (Nijisanji)
>33,418: Watame (Hololive)
>23,162: Gura (Hololive)
>22,659: Shion (Hololive)
>16,839: Ange (Nijisanji)
>16,305: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,703: Haneru (774 Inc.)
>14,182: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,567: Met (774 Inc.)
>12,557: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,355: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,275: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,081: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,766: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,521: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,647: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,541: Mysta (Nijisanji)

The rrat that EN3 won't exist is so fucking bizarre to me. You people, you realize Cover kept HoloID around for years before ID3 blew up right? HoloEN had better numbers and in some cases(when Gura streams) still has better numbers than ID all across the board, even the worst preforming member of Council(Honestly can't even tell if this is Sana or Bae at this point sadly) can consistently break 5k, which is not a small number in this industry.

So uhhh, what makes anyone think Cover won't even try EN3?

>>25743229
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku

>PER COMPANY
5x: Nijisanji
3x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Mio, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
106x: Hololive
44x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
9x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25743162
EN3 Doko?

*FINAL INTERNATIONAL TALLY OF THE DAY*
>23,246: Gura (Holo EN)
>12,107: Fauna (Holo EN)
>10,674: Kronii (Holo EN)
>10,541: Mysta (Niji EN)
>7,709: Baelz (Holo EN)
>6,551: Amelia (Holo EN)
>5,910: Nari (Niji ex-KR)
>5,224: Ike (Niji EN)
>5,132: Uki (Niji EN)
>5,077: Sonny (Niji EN)

>>25743225
Oh I just want an EN Kaela, kinda autistic with a natural sex voice

>>25743210
For now

here
* TWITCH TALLY OF 07 June*

- 07-Jun
> 12,513 : Shoto (EN Indie)
> 11,683 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 11,656 : VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 10,332 : Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,813 : Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,441 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,389 : Amelia Watson (EN Hololive)
> 6,090 : Rennie (EN Tempo)
> 5,062 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 5,021 : zrush (CN Indie)
> 4,365 : Kaga Sumire (JP VSPO)
> 4,297 : Enepoyo (JP Indie)

1. Shoto wins with consistency, ~12k for the last 4 streams
2. Shylily got to to 500k followers
4. It's pride month so expect some more front page pushed vtubers.

>>25743229
The only one who can beat Salome is Salome.

>>25743334
I hate you seadogs so much

Superchats tallyman please show up

>>25743334
AHAHAHAH kobokeks fucking destroyed, not even on the podium

* FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 08-Jun
> 22,248 : Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
> 12,846 : Shoto (EN Indie)
> 11,691 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 10,941 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 10,169 : Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 8,014 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,090 : Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 5,433 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 5,139 : Uruha Ichinose (JP VSPO)
> 4,851 : zrush (CN Indie)
> 4,686 : nihmune (EN Indie)
> 4,668 : Roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 4,519 : Uruha Ichinose (JP VSPO)

1. Aine wins with onether one of her "gone 3 days, big numbers on return zatsu" streams.
2. Gosegu has become a 2AM streamer it seems.
3. ZilverK did some VRchat boxing spoof

>>25743009
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't think Cover would be so retarded

I thought we stopped counting s*lome

>>25743280
>5x: Nijisanji
>5x: Salome
No wonder Nijimembers are seething. She is more popular and successful than everyone else in their company which is something they hate seeing.
Salome is forcing the Nijiniggers to recognise that there hasn't ever been anything like a Hololive bias that they have insisted exists and that anyone in Nijisanji can be successful if they are actually good streamers who people want to watch and paints all the Nijis before Salome as abject failures

>>25743352
>>25743417
>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React, Naver catchup
2) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
4) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship
7) Shoto (Indie) 12,513 - Playing Unpacking
8) Ine (Isegye Idol) 22,248 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup + The Spike

>PER COMPANY
6x: Isegye Idol
1x: Board of Trustees, Indie

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ine
1x: Gosegu, Jingburger, Kris Yim, Lilpa, VIichan

>>25743225
>what makes anyone think Cover won't even try EN3?
because nijien has already dominated the en market.
no more room for holoen sadly.

>>25743429
>we
Fuck off an make your own thread.

>>25743334
Niji KR is no longer a thing. It's just NijiJP which shouldn't be part of an international tally. We already have EN gold so you should stop this.

>>25743472
>tween model showcase
U-uohh?!

>>25743352
>>25743417
>like 50% away from the male counterpart
Guess fujobaiting is more effective than being a whore there.

>>25743476
>EN Market (CN)

>>25743491
there's no such thing as niji jp

>>25743541
Translate it, weebs.

>>25743431
OMFG this tranny is so mind broken this has been the 5th time this has been posted, let me guess you'll be responding to yourself with "This....."

>>25743110
looks like vshojo is fighting back

>>25743476
E3 is a hoax

>check last thread
>holobronies used SC cope
I thought you guys stopped comparing SC since Vox
Did Salome mindbreak you that hard?

>>25743621
Whenever it's convenient

>>25743583
Keep seething, Nijikek, your oshi is irrelevant desuwa~

>>25743582
nijisanji's analysis for IPO.
and it show its VOD views compared to other vtuber agencies I guess.

>>25743476
>nijien has already dominated the en market.
My fucking sides

>>25743621
Both Luxiem and Salome

>>25743621
So one one hand it kind of is relevant because it's actual JP vs JP instead of CN vs EN supers. On another hand the context is completely different so it's still retarded. So eh

>>25743586
>VShojo
It's just Ironmouse at this point, anon. Take her out and the Veibae clone dominates the EN female sphere.

>>25743225
Wait a minute, since when is Bae doing so badly? Has she been reclining, or has Sana inclined? I watch neither so pardon my ignorance.

>>25743669
Nice larping there schizo tranny, try again next time

>>25743621
Superchats tally doko?

>>25743541
B is hololive right?
what about C, D, E, F?

>Ayame said she will stream more tomorrow or the day after
That would be like.. 5 streams on almost 2 weeks. What happened with the sudden change? Shion has been pretty active too.

>>25743740
The moment she gets overlapped she gets fucked. And her timeslot is the same as Kronii/Irys/sometimes Ame/whoever else decides they want to park their asses there (Hi Fauna. What the fuck Fauna).

>>25743740
She's been having trouble even breaking 5k these days

>>25743776
Bae Twitch soon

>>25743768
Holo big hitters are all going absent. Even Miko is cutting down on her streaming duration due to her throat.

>25743397
she didn't stream today

>>25743621
>>25743667
>>25743709
Holy samefag.

>>25743476
We'll see who owns the EN market after Salome's english stream tomorrow ;)

>>25743740
sana at least has the novelty of rarely streaming

>>25743389
Hi anon, I'm around for now although life is still throwing too much shit at me to get back to the regular daily tally posts just yet. Working on a couple of posts for later tonight right now but I can take any requests if you want.

>>25743472
Isegye continues to silently dominate twitch.

>>25743764
More like VSPO takes Anycolor's place and they get moved to "B"

There might be 2 hour hard cap on the Takamori off collab.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>Here it goes
>23,246: Gura (Hololive)
>12,107: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,674: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,541: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,709: Baelz (Hololive)
>6,551: Amelia (Hololive)
>5,224: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,132: Uki (Nijisanji)
>5,077: Sonny (Nijisanji)

>>25743868
whatever suits your narrative
cope more

>>25743875
both are nijisanji.
so It is niji's win after all.
no need to fight.

>>25743764
>>25743541
Funny thing about this chart: It's massaged to hell, with Nijisanji using data from before purging Malissa and ignoring deleted and privated videos. It also adds the Holostars to the number of talent without adding their total views.

Do you think Sana would incline if she streamed 4-5 times a week and they actually let her play her favourite chinese games?

>>25743677
>more than 4x the number of talents
>barely above Hololive in views
I'm sure they'll fool somebody with this.

>>25743334
Damn! That Salome retweet really helped Nari.

>>25743915
VSPO doesn't have 116 livers retard.

>>25743922
>enter Salome
>suddenly all-out war becomes one-sided massacre
lel

>>25743922
>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR JUNE

1. Gura (Hololive) - 24,412 (The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 18,716 (The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe)
3. Kronii (Hololive) - 10,059 (Powerwash Simulator)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 20,896 (Minecraft w/Amelia, Fauna, Kronii, and Baelz)
5. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,190 (Graduation ASMR)
6. Fauna (Hololive) - 8,655 (Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag)
7. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,389 (650k Subscriber Countdown)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 23,246 (Minecraft)

Hololive - 6
Nijisanji - 2
Others - 0

>>25743944
The company reflects their fans

>>25743953
Total views is a garbage metric that only matters to people who don't understand the business anyway

>>25743229
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,251
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696
3) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485
4) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,607
5) Miko (Hololive) - 98,858
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793
7) Miko (Hololive) - 71,446

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
108x: Hololive
40x: Nijisanji
7x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
14x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.

It kept coming up in the previous thread, but the number of membership emojis someone has can be used as their floor. It caps out at 5000 members for 54 emojis. It can be unreliable if the person you're using this for is lazy about adding emojis, but it's better than only going by member likes.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7544492?hl=en#zippy=%2Cupload-custom-emoji%2Cnumber-of-custom-emoji-you-can-upload

>>25743935
Are you the same schizo tranny who has been caught larping as other people? Hahaha

>>25744010
Sponsorship and merch stats
NOW

>>25743764
C is 774

>>25744020
fuck off retard

>>25743944
>It also adds the Holostars to the number of talent without adding their total views.
did they?

>>25744038
You could use both to get an estimate.

>>25744020
based

>>25744047
It's hard for us to track that, but Nijisanji definitely knows it and is hiding it from their prospective investors lol that isn't a good look

>>25744020
>EN tally was made fun of for doing this
Apologize

Good day bro
Why no Salome OP today?

>>25743935
You're not me.

>>25743429
we did, that's the fake tally anon

>>25743009
>largest foreign market
TW and HK?

>Speaking of total views
vstats have Nijisanji still ahead of Hololive on a technicality
>they merged NijiID and NijiKR views on Nijisanji
Gap is closing back in very quickly tho

>>25744108
she got the last thread

>>25743944
>JP gens: 35
>stars: 13
I assume the other 2 channels are the Hololive and Holostars channels, unless they're counting A-chan and Nodoka instead.

>>25743541
>>25743944
They also included artist channels but not topic channels, so some people are benefitting from YouTube Music plays while others aren't
You would struggle to make a worse chart on purpose without making it obvious it was a meme

>>25743944
For some reason I'm reminded of them removing number 1 vtuber agency from their slides.

>>25744163
>142
>35

>>25744067
where is your ghost viewers went? to they sleep again excuse?

>>25743985
>one-sided massacre
You're right.

>>25744218
also don't forget
>11
>20

>>25744150
Not real markets. Picrel, if anyone is doing business in china then they're probably involved in fraud

>>25744163
holy shit that's embarassing.

>>25744178
why they didn't count the EN branch?

>>25743875
Bots win

Stop coping
Stop seething
Unless you know you are speaking fact don’t say anything, you will only embarrass yourself and the company you are going to defend

>>25744223

>>25743541
>>25743582
>>25743764
For future reference
A Nijisanji
B Hololive
C 774
D .live
E Noripro
F Eilene Family
G Re:act
H VSPO
I Brave Group
J VOMS

Nijisanji all member #JP

Salome Kuzuha Kanae Mito Fuwa Hoshikawa(?) Katrina

EN
Vox(not active) Mysta

I don't see they're favoritism ??

>>25744163
Total:
>Hololive 55 million
>Nijisanji 47million
what gap?

>>25744266
Because that would make the numbers look worse for Nijisanji(who probably did include EN in their count to boost them up)

>>25744240
>almost 3 times the number of streams
>less than half the median and almost half the mean
toppest of keks

>>25744292
Wow a whopping 6+k, and how much do we have left?

>>25744279
Where do you think you are?

>>25744076
Sure. Emojis will just usually be more accurate for the floor though. Especially with the JP branches who seem more like-adverse.

>>25744218
having 1000 1k shitters is better than having 5 10k andies desu

>>25744252
Okay then Indonesia

>>25744163
This is why we laugh at you Nijikeks

>142 to 35
>basically same amount
Embarassing

>>25744240
>Holostars worse than VOMS

>>25744163
Where ID ???

>>25744356
Nijisanji doesn't have 1000 1K shitters though, it only has 100, and Hololive has more than 10 10k'ers

>>25744020
based beyond belief tally

>>25743875
>Salome's english stream
Oh great in the fucking burger morning hours when everyon is on school and working , nice job . only. Call me whe she have the balls to do it in NA prime time (Gura time)

>>25744372

And higher than 60% nijisanji

>>25744411
well, it ended up being the same no? >>25744163
I don't know why you fags laugh at this, both companies just have different strategies.

>>25743397
anon...

>>25744346
I was hoping it would be a place where people can discuss number without random schizo going nuclear every 2 post

>>25743875
It's going to be her lowest views stream by far.

First time visiting this general and I don't know if you fags realize how ridiculous you all sound. This is the most plastic fucking general on the board, maybe the entire site, because every single one of you is a bandwagoner who just supports the biggest team because you want to be on the winning side. It's like watching Real vs Barca fans in India go at each other, or two Americans arguing over whether Liverpool or Man United is better. I would bet money that everyone here only supports big clubs like the Patriots, Yankees, or Warriors.
You will never be a real Vtuber fan. You have no loyalty, no genuine passion, no connection to your oshi. You are a threadreader twisted by numberrot into a crude mockery of a fan.
All the "validation" you get is two-faced and half-hearted. You farm (You)s from people also farming (You)s in an attempt to liven up their shitty eventless day because they have nothing else to do with their lives. Every other anon on this board mocks you. Your parents are ashamed of you because you spend your day getting mad over numbers that don't mean anything.
Your oshi, if you even have one, is utterly repulsed by you. You'll never be able to be genuinely happy at her successes, because to you she is nothing more than an avenue by which you get more numbers. Emotions are dead to you, the only stimulation you get is from numbers, numbers, and more numbers. You realize that in the end you could replace all the Vtubers you're following with a computer screen that generates random numbers and you would feel exactly the same.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning as you open up /#/ and tell yourself that today you're going to have fun shitposting and replying to bait, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll stop watching Vtubers entirely and look only at endless charts that don't mean anything to you any more because it's been years since you even heard a girl speak through your computer screen. Eventually you will just give into numberrot and become a /biz/ poster chasing endless big numbers by investing in scamcoins. Your parents will find you, dead, after you lose everything in a pump and dump and you're permanently midn broken from watching the numbers fall all the way down to 0. In the end, your legacy will amount to shitposts on /vt/, and even those will disappear when the next mass shooting at a church takes down all the 4chan archives.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
Subscribe to xqc.

>>25743936
cope desuwa~

>>25744474
Have you tried adding the ENs up to make a total?

>>25744440
even nijikr can break 10k now anon.

>>25744506

>>25744163

ID please paste ID compare pleaseeeeeeee

>>25744476
It's exactly because you and many others think like this that this thread is absolutely filled with Schitzo posts trying their hardest to ruin your thread experience

>>25744506
next time put some interesting image, maybe some will read till end

>>25744506
Only read the sentence with XQC. I already sub to him yes, and watch his clip every day
The new meta is reacting to movie recap it seem

>>25744474
Video views are a completely useless metric anyway anon. If you take 5 of those views at random they could be anywhere between 1 and 5 people watching between 1 minute and 60 hours of content

>>25744531
I mainly talked about JP. NijiEN is way smaller than HoloEN

>>25744476
Your hopes were in vain.

>>25744529
>>25743720

>25744506
(You) don't deserve an actual reply.

I wonder how many retards Riku is gonna trick into investing into Nijisanji.

>>25744581
>Video views are a completely useless metric anyway anon.
except of course that's how youtubers get paid

>>25744476
lol
lmao

>>25744582
Not in SC or Sponsors

>>25744618
Enough to matter to the insect overlords.

>>25744630
No it isn't
Premium revenue is paid by watch time
Ads are paid by which ads get placed on your video, whether they're preroll or interstitial, whether people skip them, in some cases you have multiple ads on one video, etc
Then there's members and superchats

>>25744630
It isn't how Vtuber companies make the majority of their money, that's merch which we have no hard numbers on, Memberships, Events, and sponsorships which again we have no hard numbers on

>>25744020
the sad existence of holofaggs, Salome truly mindraped them

>>25744474

Yes , hololive(yagoo) start at 220,000 $ (investment) and nijisanji ... i mean sonymusic how about money you pay ?

>>25744506
I'm copy pasting this, thanks anon

>>25744663
>Sponsors

>>25744581
ad revenue depends on watch time which we don't have the numbers
of but it's highly correlated with views

>>25744581
Despite people saying this companies still point toward views as being important. Perception matters.

>>25744086
source: my dad works at nijisanji

>>25744717
???
what does that have anything to do with my post?

Is no one posting Salome arts other than tally anon? She wins gold.

>>25744730
Gura had 1 (ONE) Taco Bell sponsorship 4 years ago fuck off

>>25744768
>different strategies.

>>25744740
Well yes, because investors don't understand all that shit, they just want to know who's got the most views because that's what they have been conditioned to believe matters.

>>25744129
>we
Cope harder holofagg you are getting mogged at your own game and now you are bitching

>>25744825
yes?

Is HoloEN reclining or is EN vtubing reclining as a whole?

>>25743944
and they probably did not count all those privated vods from holo as well

>>25744817

>>25744735
>highly correlated with views
This is mostly wrong, in a basic logical sense. Viewer retention as a statistic matters far more

>>25744809
bronies don't like her, anon
>inb4 why don't you do it
I'm just a shitposter

>>25744856
None of the big wigs are streaming on a consistent basis

>>25744581
Forgot that if it's an artist channel a view could also be someone playing a song on YouTube Music, which results in a flat rate payment of $0.002

>>25744856
Everyone is on break. Even fucking Vox is cashing out for a while

>>25744856
Looks like EN corpos reclining as a whole but honestly I think that's due to more indie vtubers getting bigger. Still think there's more room to grow but they have to push into different fanbases.

>>25744809
Because there were never fans, just schizo trannies samefagging and baiting /#/ to shit on, even admitting to hating /#/ and having jannies backing them up

>>25744922
anon you do realize that's pretty good for ad rev right?

>>25743476
>nijien has already dominated the en market
While losing CCV eveyday LMAO

>>25744885
we assume that with a big sample size, retention will be the same for both sides.
Duration is more important imo

>>25744956
Yes my point is that "a view" means basically nothing. It could be a music play with a flat rate payout, it could be a premium viewer watching 12 hours of a stream, it could be someone who got 16 interstitial ads shoved at them, you have no idea

>>25743989
Why is NijiEN such a trash?

>>25744967
did you forget how nijien dominate the tally last month?

>>25744435
>>don't worry bots watching

>>25744809
All the good Salome art has been posted in the past few threads, she wins every day she streams so it gets a bit repetitive.

I genuinely wonder how much of his followers Vox will have left by the time he comes back

>>25745043
return stream is always a buff anon

It basically confirm my theory that Vtuber only have 3 years of career at most. After 3rd year most Vtuber seem to stream less or just get tired of the whole thing

>>25744809
dozo

>>25744618
>>25744675
all kneel to the bugs

>>25745016
>dominate
My fucking sides

>>25745016
So they can't win without spamming off-collab right?
Or spamming off-collab is normal?

>>25744927
VShojo and HoloEN could benefit from more stream monsters

>>25745016
>precelebration zatsu
>karaoke precelebration
>celebration
>celebration pt. 2
>karaoke for numbers
>SC reading for numbers
>SC reading pt. 2 for numbers

>>25744809
She wins so often that new art isn't being made fast enough.

>>25745065
yeah just like a farewell stream right?
Oh wait

>>25744809
she is not my fetish so I don't save her arts.

>>25743229

>>25743989
Yawn. Now do EN gold tally without Gura since we're already coping and looking at second place finishes for global gold.
>>25745043
Main thing is that there's no good BFE alternative option, so I don't see him losing fans. Other streamers bleed viewers if they take breaks because their fans can get their fix elsewhere.

>>25744809
I don't post nijiniggers

>>25744856
But Gura is back to her 20k median tho...

>>25744939
No the whole western streaming industry is reclining due to lockdown being lifted

>>25744998
That's a very strange assumption to make. The only reason to assume that is because there is absolutely no way we could actually know the answers.

>>25745117
>RP ASMR

>>25745072
She is so powerful that she makes even Nijimembers seethe
Salome I kneel

>>25745112
What happened with the Azure arts? I thought she had thousands of it?

>>25745098
>>nijien has already dominated the en market
Also with Gura moving and away for 2 weeks.
At least Luxiem made beautiful montains

>>25745161
Oh shit. Does this mean anything besides recline is a good thing actually?

>>25745164
yes, there's no way to know the answer so just assume that it's the same

>>25743476
>dominated the en market

>>25745182
Are those lewd while also falling under 4ch rules of no penis / vagina / nipple? (legit question, I dunno this one)

>>25745182
>Azure art
This is a good time to remind the numbers thread that the most liked vtuber fanart of all time is an off-model drawing of Suisei's ass

>>25745098
>>25745205
beauty duwangs are have

>>25745161
Bring back summer events.

>>25745161
No worries, schlong will magically summon EN normie tourists that will only watch her and will make the EN market great again

>>25745205
beautiful, beautiful mountains

>>25745219
maybe, but be careful with a niche market like vtubering, many vtubers viewers are probably still in "lockdown"

>>25745016
>Dominate
>stacked buffs on top of more buffs with an off collab that lasted for half the month
>HoloEN was all on break for half the month
>Still only win by 2 and need a total drama bait stream on the last day of the month to clinch it
Do Nijikeks really?

>>25744891
Right, but you think with over 100,000 people watching her that at least there'd be on lewdspammer here among them.

>>25744809
Wow. You mean shitposters want to shitpost rather than post art for someone they're larping as a fan for?

>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQyK3iG5JEk
What various expenses all are there to any given 3D Live Concert for Vtubers? Which of them are the heaviest cost?

>>25745282
No she will make 90k nips finally do their eigo reps

>>25745310
Her fans are on 5ch, not here

>>25745333
Akis must be the most expensive since they're damn musicals

>>25744832
Matters for tourists and just in the system in general. People with big numbers get shown more. People will also skip over a dozen 25k view clips click on that 1 million view clip to see why it is so popular.

>>25745333
The studio is a pretty flat rate regardless of content since it's just a room with a handful of permanent staff
The big variable costs would be custom 3D assets and music licensing

Seriously. Look at these streams.

>>25745310
she has a lot of art already but it's largely all either normal art or straight-up porn, anything good in the rare lewd but not bannable sweet spot has already been post

>>25745373
With her level it's just going to be a lot of unun and kawaii.

Nijikeks seething
Salomechads thriving
Thank me desuwa~

>>25745444
problem?

>>25745310
We've already gone through this countless times that her audience seems to be pulled entirely from Riku's asshole and this is yet another sign of it

>>25745507
Two milestone celebrations, two countdowns to another celebration, a birthday celebration, and fucking Minecraft, all in the span of 8 streams

>>25745444
>3 Birthday streams
>400k celebration
>500k countdown

>>25745563
Welcome to EN males.

>>25745544
>nijiJP
>have fans on 4chan
are you retarded? The fact that her split can still hit bump limit is a miracle

>>25743229

>>25745373
Lol no
Not even the chuuba themselves do their rep seriously and you think their audience will?

>>25745563
and?

>>25744506
>no reaction image
3/10 shitpost, apply yourself

>>25745563
Realistically what do NijiEn even have this month in terms of buff content besides Vox's return and male karaoke.

>>25744540

Just 1 stream anon

Roberu 17k
Oga 12k
Astel 15k

Just one

>>25745544
Licking Riku's anus

>>25745423
Is that why the 3D Concert for Sankisei sucked? Did they spend all their budget on music licensing or something?

>>25745630
Streaming almost nothing but prime numberfag content and superchat bait comes across a little desperate

>>25745465
puny excuses people don't care about her outside the shitpost just that

What the flying fuck? This stream is already at 1 million

>>25743875
English nijifan is never that big and Salome is not a male so luxiem chink Will not be there, she Will lose tomorrow (unless her jpfan come or somehow holofag outside of this site watch her)

>>25745703
but his fans love it
so keep seething poorfag.

>>25744506
>every single one of you is a bandwagoner who just supports the biggest team because you want to be on the winning side
If that was true this thread wouldn't have so many people seething about Salome numbers

>>25745667
I don't know, they all fucked up and failed to build up a style of content besides numberfagging. Vox at least can do ERP on livestream, but none of the others have a brand

why are you faggots so obsessed with vtuber company ceos' anuses, please stop

>>25743334
Thank you!

>>25745117
Rip asmr bro

>>25745696
I have no explanation for that, Cover have been on a pretty good streak of quality paid and free lives and that stands out as a disastrous outlier

>>25745745
ACCELERATE - Riku Tazumi

>>25745770
Shu has shooters but he doesn't get numbers on them like he used to anymore it seems

>>25744809
>implying there's Salomefags in /vt/
Anon...

>>25745667
They ran out of the "first time" buff
Sorry there is no going back

>>25745745
If those are really jp tourists they have not sense of fun at all.

>>25745796
Well, let's speculate. What could have caused them to have fucked up like that? Maybe some kind of scheduling mix up that forced them to move the timeline of the concert forward from its planned date?

>>25745775
Did somebody say anus? Is it shaved? Is it a puckered prolapse ready to kiss you back? Does it have a some brown lipstick on it? I bet you want to kiss it since it has a deep redish hue, oh you want to be naughty why not try sticking your finger in and check their prostate?

>>25745753
>declining numbers due to celebration fatigue
>love it

How do we fucking save Gu**...

>>25745952
The most widely believed theory is that is the girls themselves who have no idea what considered “good” and have no experiences with performing
But that is out of the window since their individual performance in HoloFes are all decent, even good. So the 2nd most believable theory is that Cover wanted to try out a new kind of script and they use Sankisei to test it out, of course they didn’t do a good job at it.

>>25745854
Shoto actually siphoned some of the actual EN audience from Niji since he is more willing pander to the missing soft boy archetype that isn't really filled by any of the niji males

>>25745333
>>it's very expensive guy .more than 30,000 USD for 3D concert 1-2 hour.

>>25743337
Kronii. and Gura if she uses her deeper voice and sticks to the part.

>>25745857
/dsw/ are Salomefags. Few numberposters there.
I don't really post about her on /#/ sinco ESL schizo is going insane as is and I have seen more retarded massaged graphs in the last two weeks here than in two years of postgrad.

>salome too strong


bros...

>>25746119
She don’t need saving though? Pekora is the one who need saving

>>25745703
nijiEN male spamming buff content since 2021, at least they bring in the money to keep nijiEn alive

>>25746301
Oh please. Where the fuck are these graphs massaged? If you're going to bitch at least be productive and say what's actually wrong with them

>>25746220
Based Shoto killing nijien fags

>>25746295
I adore those dorks but they're not autistic enough to do multiple streams varying in length like the autist Kaela and Koyori are right now

>>25746349
The only buff content left for them is Vox's 1M celebration (Dick reveal)

>>25746483
I don’t think that gonna be big

>>25746220
I wanted to feel sad for manjisanjiEN, but oh well they die this to themeself

>>25746301
>Postgrad in communications and mass media

>>25746119
She averages 20k+ ccv, she's fine. 1-10 is part time hobby indie tier, 50-100 is maybe gonna make it tier, 100-500 is barely surviving tier, 500-1500 is up and coming tier (unless you're corpo in which case you're worst of the best), 1500-5000 is made it tier, 5000-10000 is solid staple tier, 10000-15000 is upper tier, 20000-35000 is star tier, 40000+ is Superstar tier, 75000+ is fucking mega ultra unicorn fucking youtube in the ass and making the algorithm your bitch tier

at least pomu is still making plenty of money

>>25746542
>Nijistaff couldve went for a softboi but went for a cuntboy instead

>>25746640
She's pity baiting again?

>>25746220
Niji males got too much drama, Shoto is quick to handle issues when former luxiemsisters give him one, SHOTO LOVE

>>25745745
443 coment
58k likes

Calm down Riku , You forgot to close the view farm.

>>25743225
Legitimately, what character niches haven't been overfilled in the Vtuber industry?

We have like a thousand cat girls and demon girls and cunny and mommies and sea animals and birds, what new direction could you take a 3rd generation?

>>25746721
>too much drama
But only drama bring them numbers

>>25746627
>averages 20k+ ccv

>>25746875
>443 comments
>10+k SC
1M Celebration HAHAHAHAHA

>>25746973
I think he means median

>>25746899
but they don't though

>>25744020
this is the proof of your shamelessness, holobronies

>>25747026
nijiseethe

>>25746881
God forbid me but
Milf

>>25746899
got a handful unsubbing/not continuing membership from doxxsite tho, also lower ccv since May, new gen when

>>25746881
More cunny.

>>25747009
That's not a drama stream
I'm taking about Reimu

>>25747009
Shoto was streaming at the same time anon, kindreds not as loyal as we thought

>>25745117
weird comparison
how much was Vox's karaoke?

I have a crazy idea
Salome basically prove that number do begets number
Then should corpo bot their new chuuba to high Heaven on debut? To capitalize on shock value and those people who see big numbers and tune in to see what’s up
It’s kind of a forceful way to make people click on stream but it work

>>25745284
>holofags seethed so hard they tried to accuse Salome's smooth graphs as botting
that will never not be funny

>>25747126
Vox streams on YT
Shoto streams on twitch
Overlapping won't affect their numbers

Gura is looking to hit 4 Million pretty much right on her birthday.
One less celebration to do!

looking at EOP spots outside this board feels weird now because it's almost like looking at an alternate universe where Salome doesn't exist. Japanese vtubing is having this unprecedented phenomenon unfold but only a fraction of Western fans are even aware of it.

>>25747243
they got filtered quickly after he spouts his parasocial bullshit

>>25746875

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>>25747337
The Combo of Birthday and 4 Million is powerful, but it still probably won't be a strong as an actual 3D Gura Live would be, even if it were out of nowhere.

>>25747399
I can only imagine what the JP vtubers themselves are thinking, like Jesus christ some random bitch comes out nowhere and absolutely destroys every single view records under the sun

>>25747337
Her subs are start increasing more and more power near to her birthday, i this point she will get her 4 million by next week. Now its depends of her if she really want to celebrate her 4 millions or not. We already know the answer

I've been just glancing at yesterday's graphs and I just have to ask, how fucking bad is Rosemi at ASMR?

>Vtuber from one piece
https://youtu.be/xYGNqYeRP2I
number?

>>25747478
Are those raids? Who fucking raids an ASMR stream

>>25747482
okay, what the fuck

>>25747473
It waits to be seen, but from what she has actually said is that she actually wants to celebrate 4M because it finally feels like its something she's worked for

>>25747461
She is shilling her merch a lot. Also we know since May she was recording somethin. So a new Original song is coming and english. 3D concert truly i don't know but i wish one before kiara 3d concert.

>>25743229
>cope with Silver Medal
>Salome decides to beat herself and win Silver and Gold
This is getting out of hand now there are 2 of them!

>>25747462
Realistically unless it actually harm their number they have no reason to care
Record at the end of the day are just vanity, it only benefits the person holding it and cause no harm to anyone

>>25747478
that doesn't show anything to indicate that she's bad at ASMR

she just got raided by two people it seems and new viewers were not interested in ASMR
I don't know why you would raid an ASMR stream anyway

>>25743225
EN3 is a Myth
kek

>>25747478
She was botted, but she's so bad at ASMR that even bots fucked off

>>25747560
>celebration
>put balloons around her streams and start wiggle.
>Gura: ok thats all, lets go back to Minecraft
i Won't be suprised

>>25747441
70,000 gmail ? it's impossible holobro
>lol you're so funny

>>25743476
> Niji
> EN

>>25747576
If Gura has a prerecorded 3D concert with a new Original Song and releases it on her Birthday at around the same time she hits 4 Million subs...

I'm afraid.

>>25747478
Those are raids and not everyone likes ASMR so eh. That said I don't think she's any good. Could be personal preference but she sounds like a mouth drooling retard with how much saliva seems to be in her mouth the entire time and she has no idea how to make it stop.

>>25747399
We've been told that dirty EOPs would not understand her appeal nor would we understand her metrioric rise, and that the bulk of her audience are normie JOP tourists that only watch her, apparently it does not reflect that here

>>25747551
she debut for the one piece movie I guess.

>>25747712
From what we've heard it doesn't even affect 5ch that much.

YT premium shop can help you

>>25744506
> First time visiting this general
> posts a fucking essay
did we mindbreak you anon-kun?

>>25747482
>Bullshitting a daughter for Shank
>She is also Luffy’s childhood friend (???)
>All just to debut a Vtube

>>25746973
Not as good as 20k, but 15k is not bad

>Vox, Mysta pander hard to yumejos/fujos, spam celebration streams, stream exclusively during asian timeslots
>get decent numbers (both 10K median in May)
>/#/ tries to downplay them using Kobo(?)

>Noctyx and Ike/Shu don't pander as hard, stream games, and split their streams during both NA and Asian timeslots
>get okay numbers (3-5K for Noctyx, 5-7K for Ike/Shu)
>/#/ shits on them for their "low" numbers

I am enjoying Salome humiliating the holofags just because of shit like this

>>25747658
>>25747844
>>forgot

>>25744809
I posted a lot of them early on, even took effort into cropping some when she won the first few days.
I got filtered by Nijinigger behavior so I kinda stopped watching her. Sure she's fun, but not THAT fun.

So Mori flew to Austria and Kiara's plan is to have them just play Switch games?

>>25747947
Her 'fans' really are the new Chumbuds huh

>>25745182
only around 100 lewds, 90% of them insanely lewd (and so can't be posted)

>>25747785
Are you serious? So even they are unaffected by this one of a kind "super star" who exceeds the top most streamers globally? I'm shook

>Takamori off collab
>only 5k waiting

>>25747337

400,000 CCV

>>25747916
I don’t see how this have anything to do with the “Holofag” in your head

>>25747994
The ones watching her are by majority people who barely use the internet apparently.

>>25748014
7,260, but that's still rather low.

>>25747482
>One piece Vtuber
yeahhh i think thats enough, we don't really want One piece fans invade us now. No one can beat Oda creations.

>>25747576
Hope she sings in English. Tired of these bitches doing Japanese songs. If I wanted to listen to mediocre Japanese songs I would just listen to fucking Next Color Planet or fucking Aimai Chocolate

>>25747994
I mean, 5ch doesn't really have a "horse race" like we do, so other than the initial wave of shitposting, things kinda died down.

>>25748084
They moved the stream 15min earlier

>>25747988
>>25747988
It’s just the price of being the top. You attract anti and schizo all around the internet

>>25746483
they still have sucking dicks ASMR and losing anal virginity off pako

>>25748105
Just wait for the inevitable TypeMoon Vtuber lol

>>25746973
You have nijisanjimember AVG ?

>>25748105
check her schedule in the description.
she will only stream once this month and three times in July.

someone should get the license for K-On! and debut them as vtubers lmao

>>25747988
I didn't really mind the celebratory 1M spam, even chumbuds did that early on but they learned.
Harassing Koyori into deleting a joke tweet crossed a line though. My view probably doesn't even count due to adblock, but I don't really wanna contribute to such fans.
Niji livers almost never call their fanbase out for this type of behavior, which might have contributed to it getting so widespread

>>25748294
>K-on
Overrated

A HoloEN stream not starting on time. Shocking!!

>>25747478
It was actually really good. But the problem is it is to good and everyone myself include fell asleep.

>>25748376
So far, they're still 9 min early based on the original starting time

>>25748314
Oh no, that's not even their worst behavior to date. During Malissa's Graduation, they were spamming her chat to end the stream so that that Salome would start

>>25748294
>Mio from hololive collabs with Mio from K-on
only in my dream.

>>25748376
There's only two HoloEN that actually start on time, and one is on hiatus.

>>25748426
Bullshit they were.

>>25748314
She apologized for it on her own on her stream earlier.
I was one of the ones shocked that she'd go so far to leech but I can appreciate that she at least apologized for it.

>>25748294
>K-On!
Just make Bandori bands debut as vtuber.

>>25747482
>>25748105
Not even the first time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xds00gPAOk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urw8qI-Zv_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3g6arHBng

>>25747947
>I got filtered by Nijinigger behavior
lol yeah okay m8

>>25746881
The next step for EN3 is obvious to make them outright Gods with entire light novels dedicated to their backstories as merch

Got as high as 10k waiting for Takamori

>>25748426
What the fuck?
I know Salome fan supposedly doesn’t care about the rest of the industry but that is too far

>>25747988
don't insult us with a fake bitch. Gura don't spell Oh Nyo in every sentence like a broken disk

>>25748531
Please hire actual writer this time, Council lore sound so generic and half-assed

>>25748448
>>25748376
the fuck are you talking about

>>25748473
literally just look it up on the archives
there was even a guy using a aqua pfp falseflagging on her chat

>>25748531
>yeah please read these books so you can enjoy the new debuts better
>vtuber ends up only playing minecraft or not streaming at all
lol

10K get for the takamori collab, waiting screen

>>25748716
Can we bring up that guy's chatlogs to see if he's actually a falseflagger?

>>25748691

>>25744809
In Hentai web anon

>>25748478
stop using words that you don't know the definition of, you fake concernfag

easy 12k Takamori

>Open /hlgg/
>Schizo going insane about how Gura is lying again
>Bunch of deleted posts
Haizzzzz

>>25748770
no I mean what the fuck are you talking about with the starting on time thing, it's not uncommon for holoen streams

>>25748969
He was clearly being sarcastic.

>>25749029
and it doesn't make sense because for that to be sarcastic there needs to be a consistent pattern of holoEN streams starting late which there isn't

>>25748386
Putting your viewers to sleep is a buff to CCV. See Ina

>>25749119
>there needs to be a consistent pattern of holoEN streams starting late which there isn't

...but there is? Are you serious? Most streams start 2-3 minutes late with like 10 minute loading screens. ESPECIALLY collabs.

>>25744809
Hp I'm JP

Fact this is real story about salome stream
Almost viewer in jp use her voice for fap.

There really just aren't enough EN fans in this timeslot to get decent numbers. A 10k waiting room is usually a 30k stream, but...yeah.

>>25749202
うそつき

>>25749202
Edit Hp >Hi
Her viewer is not a bot.

Sorry for my language

>>25749306
>A 10k waiting room is usually a 30k stream, but...yeah.
this hasn't been true for EN streams since susan did whatever the fuck she did with ccv verification back in 2020

>>25749306
Kiara's channel is one of the most cursed in EN

>>25746881
The future theme of EN3 are anthropomorphized mecha. You can sell Not!Gunpla as merch, and with that as the base you can take their character designs and lore in whatever direction you want

>>25749552
I mean if you think about it this is doing great. Kiara channel somehow managed to make a full Myth 3d collab peak at like, 25k. jesas

what went wrong?

So I decided to devote some time to checking how Holo vs Niji compare when it comes to music numbers.
I've restricted it to JP only since Mori will btfo all the metrics on the EN side.
I've also put up a minimum of 3 songs above 1M requirement so that meme songs and one hit wonders don't influence the outcome, and so that it tracks the more music oriented chuubas other than the ones that just dabble (but even if I include the rest of them, the result isn't much different, just takes up more space).

As expected Nijisanji has a solid lead in the 1M+ song department due to having a wide fanbase spread out through multiple livers. The singers that bring them the most numbers are -

> Chronoir (Kuzuha + Kanae)
> Ryushen
> Hoshikawa Sara

and they dominate the total number of songs with at least 1M views almost doubling Hololive's numbers if the 3 1M song restriction is removed.

Meanwhile Hololive is surprisingly far more balanced than I expected it to be, with the number bringers (other than Suisei) being -

> Aqua
> Kanata
> Okayu

Due to the much lower no. of members, they obviously lose out on the 1M+ songs metric, but having only just around 60 difference is quite impressive. Both Holo and Niji have 8 chuubas with more than 10 1M+ songs in their repertoire (Niji includes the Chronoir channel).
Also this doesn't count the holo orisongs stuck in topic that have 1M, so they should have around 10-20 extra from there as well.

Where they shine obviously, is in every single other metric. 33 vs 30 (almost 1/3rd of Niji being Chronoir songs) for 5M+ songs is really impressive, and even if you exclude Suisei, Holo wins in the 10M+ songs department with a very even spread.
Both Holo and Niji have one song each that have 30M+ views (Holo Ochame Kinou, and Kuzuha's King). Adding Mori would give Holo a +1 in this department.

My question that led to this attempt was whether losing Melissa would hurt Nijisanji's "music" aspect, but it doesn't seem to matter much to them as things stand. Sure, Melissa had a bunch of 1M+ songs, but Nijisanji have far more of that spread out. She also had maybe 2-3 songs above 5M and I don't think she had any 10M+ songs either.
Ryushen is currently a large part of their 1M+ library, but even if they lose her, they'll still have a lead there.

Perhaps this is expected due to Hololive focussing more on music compared to Nijisanji being more general, but I still think the numbers are interesting.

>>25749445
No worries, you are most welcome here, we hope you enjoy your stay faggot.

>>25748473
Melissa literally apologized on stream for holding her up, after which she IMMEDIATELY started. I fucking saw it live.
The archive is on ragtag if you want to check.

>>25749445
>Her viewer is not a bot
>lol

>>25749674
Gunpla is actually pretty fucking expensive to get into producing if you don't already have the facilities so unless you're suggesting that they do a joint partnership thing with sunrise this is not a good strategy

>>25749680
Culled by how much though?

>>25749801
That's exactly what I was suggesting. Why wouldn't they do a joint partnership when that would be a fucking amazing set up for product promotion?

>>25749700
Kuzukek has a 30 fucking M song? What the fuck, thats better than most pro music artists top songs.

>>25746220
Do you not know of any of the Niji EN males? Who is Ike or Uki compared to the rest of their branch? Not all of them are loud/assertive like Vox, Luca, Mysta, or Alban.

>>25749821
Don't think she's particularly culled, this really is just a very shit timeslot and people seem to not want to use her channel on principle.

Guess Takamori still has way more appeal to the broader fanbase.

>>25749742
Holy shit, everyone is apologizing to Salome huh. If no one is salty about her growth rate, they would sure as hell be salty over the way her fans act lol

>>25749966
she got 15k

>>25749962
>>25749821
Do you guys even remeber then dress collab lmao?

>>25749876
I'm sure that plamoautists would rather see a new gundam or whatever than some who in their eyes.