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>>25704759* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>46,701: Mio (Hololive)>38,816: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>33,554: Chloe (Hololive)>20,360: Noel (Hololive)>20,209: Ange (Nijisanji)>19,168: Patra (774 Inc.)>18,746: Kobo (Hololive)>16,068: Kanata (Hololive)>14,470: Tamaki (NoriPro)>14,258: Lamy (Hololive)>14,168: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>13,954: Gatchman (Indie)>12,785: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12,684: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,623: Botan (Hololive)>12,403: Haachama (Hololive)>12,034: Koyori (Hololive)>10,961: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,419: Nari (Nijisanji)>10,329: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,257: Mysta (Nijisanji)>10,132: Kronii (Hololive)
>>25704791>JUNE 2022 GOLD1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 72) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 75) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 76) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke>PER COMPANY4x: Nijisanji3x: Hololive>PER STREAMER4x: Salome1x: Haachama, Mio, Watame2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY106x: Hololive43x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua12x: Miko11x: Kuzuha8x: Salome7x: Subaru6x: Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
*FINAL INTERNATIONAL TALLY OF THE DAY*>18,950: Kobo (Holo ID)>10,465: Nari (ex-Niji KR)>10,389: Mysta (Niji EN)>10,265: Mysta (Niji EN)>10,119: Kronii (Holo EN)>7,371: Baelz (Holo EN)>6,793: Mizuki (Meridian Project/TW)>5,687: Luca (Niji EN)>5,499: Alban (Niji EN)
>>25704667Can Mumei even play her supposed role considering she got cucked out of it with the history stream bans (thanks Omega you fuck)? to be fair though, she can still do it in other ways, like being a Minecraft Holoserver historian or something.
>>25704437>Cover is still a tech companyThey are an entertainment company now.>>25704739Because most of the sponsorships came from JP. Do you think Nissin Cup Noodle that will be sold in Japan needs an EN/ID vtubers to shill it?
was not here for the past week. what was /#/'s consensus on desuwa? is she a genuine superstar on the same league as pekora or xqc, or botted?
Gura is just carrying EN vtubing on her back at this point
no timeloops allowed this early in the thread, mr. ""was not here for the past week""
>>25705016Did Kobo get 18k by just playing PvZ?
>>25705050The underlying problem of her historian role is that they would have to constantly need to check her shit for approval, which is an expense they'd have to incur just to let her do that particular gimmick. The best that she could do without approval would be to basically gloss over history or stick to stuff that is really old and hard to prove.
>>25705118The only certain thing about Salome is that she has made Nijiniggers more insufferable than usual, but they are always pathetic and insufferable. At least she's generating some decent art.
>>25705050I meant it in the sense of their personalities. Mumei is similar to Gura to the point that she often gets confused with her and Kronii's appeal is similar to Mori's. It's no coincidence that those two are the most popular in Council.
>>25705050Mumei barely cares about history in the first place. Sana and Fauna re the only ones who's gimmick matched their actual interests.
So, did any Nijifans spam or harass Mio for her 1M celebration?
>>25705016based international tally poster
>>25705291Too much manpower required, just reject it. Still pretty fucking dumb of Omega to give Mumei that lore and then ban her from talking about it. Sana was in a similar boat since she was getting hate comments cause of her meme horoscope streams and management refused to let her do a watchalong of the James Webb telescope launch.
>>25705118Flip a coin.
>>25705118really there is something fishy about her
>>25705505never heard any of that about Sana, sounds like something you made up with the knowledge that no one would correct you because no one watches Sana.
>>25705452This. I don't understand this shit about Mumei being deep into history but limited by Cover. You'd get like, maybe a few strategy games, that's it.
Bae 7k
>>25705457Why would they? Salami's fans don't watch other vtubers. They don't even know what vtubing is, much less have the inclination to go harass random midtier talents from rival companies.
Well, that just happened, someone just paid to get xQc to react to Salome number meme.....
>>25705670Yes, a rival company that keeps kicking Anykara's ass for 3 years
Nijisanji status?
>>25705158Isn’t Stanley supposed to be buff game? Or is it the kind of game that is only buffed content for the first few who stream it?
>>25705720You mean you sent him a superchat about it
>>25705720he isn't even live
IPO status?
>>25705866It doesn't even has as much content as Henry Stickman. If you've seen one person play it you've seen them all play it.
timetravlerchama??
>>25705720>>25705887https://www.twitch.tv/xqc
where can i hire a bot that occasionally writes "SHE'S COMING FOR YOU SHE'S COMING FOR YOUUUU HER NAME IS SALOME SHE'S COMING FOR YOU:" in Gura's chat?
EN3 Doko?
>>25705016I never thought see an ID carres hard other oversea branches like that
>>25705985Anon, no matter how you try, Salome will never be a global icon
>>25705985Wheelbarrow
>>25706050after wave 6
>>25705985this is like 3 levels deep of roleplaying
>>25706050Next month- holoEN management
>>25705985Will she be able to take the stress from just one chat?
>>25706090>gura is a global icon>not even 25k when she rarely streamsHaha sure thing anon
>>25705896>IPO scam?IPO scam
What happened to Reine? Didn't she use to pull non mediocre numbers?
>>25705985Gura would literally be the last person who cares, probably don't even know who Salome is and will confuse you for some creepy stalker. it's not a meme when people say she's strongly anti numbers and pay 0 attention to whatever happening outside of Hololive.
Salome 1st sponsor, what would it be anon tachi?
>>25706285Reine's been getting much better numbers since HoloFes/ID3 so I don't know what you're talking about.
>>25706376McDonalds
>>25706376Hormel
>>25706168Then why are Salome's EN clips not getting big numbers?
>>25706285HoloID as a whole inclined after Holofes 3 and ID3's debut. I think the only ones who are still 3 view tier are Risu and Iofi?
>>25706509Ollie didn't really incline but her numbers were always high enough to keep her above 3-view, and are still decent enough to keep her out of Risu/Lofi territory.
>>25706050Maybe (AND A BIG MAYBE) after HoloX 3D.
>>25706376Cosmetics
>>25706593That's like in 2 days so everything after that is "after HoloX 3D".
>>25706509Speaking of HoloFes, it would be nice for HoloExpo to take place in NA for once. They have the HoloMeet project so holding one would be easy.
>>25706050End of June. Ame is traveling/on vacation on the last week of June.
Nissin just posted a picture with Nene, it's quite amazing how this company is still sticking to Hololive.
I just want to say im a niji fan and while i dont watch hololive anymore im happy to see them doing well
>>25706050On Kiara's BD lmao
>>25706650They most likely gonna spread it out for the next two weeks.
>>25706237That post mindroke 5ch
>>25706509Risu likes to debuff herself at every chance, even when doing buff content, and loafy is happy in her little slice of heaven.
>>25706168well tbf she's literally the biggest streamer on YT rn with that CCV outside JP
>>25706877What did they say
>>25706877Wait....How????
>>25706724But they're not? Despite Cover having fewer members, Anykara managed to earn more than Cover in profit with fewer big sponsors.With Salome this year, I doubt Cover can ever beat Anykara.
>>25706725They already paid for it, nothing they can do unless they want to waste that money for nothing.But they will never get another sponsorship while Salome exists
>>25706725I, too, want to stick it in Nene.
>>25706877explain?
>check wheelchair tallys so far>650k countdown celebrationmysta....
>>25706376Resident Evil 4 of course
>>25706725Shitposting asides, just because Salome is the current hottest individual/ VTuber doesn’t change the fact that Hololive still remains the group with strongest overall performance and their previous collabs all ended in success, anon(Yes, I know they sponsored Niji some months ago too)
>>25707154A big streamer isn't worth much if their audience doesn't actually buy the shill product.
>>25707154HOLY COPE
>>25706943Source? The last data I saw here was that Cover had higher profits for 2020
>>25707154Do general investor cares?They see money/potential money, they throw more into it.
>>25707154Anon, no sponsors will care about overall performance. They see numbers, they like, and they pay people to sponsor their products.It just so happens that Nijsanji has the most numbers right now.
>The thread was nice and comfy for hours talking about real numbers>SEANEETs waking up>Samefagging and schizos are back shitting up the threadYep, that's all for today, as usual, see you in 14h anons, love you all real numberchads <3
>>25706954if Nissin really wanted a bigger reach then they would have get Miko instead of Nene so saying that they would've get Salome is nonsense at this point
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5XQhzMH08PgWa4Zp02GcswPurplechama is unbanned, but all her ASMR streams are gone. ;-;
>>25707246Her audience actually buys shilled product, though. Well, limited sample size, but when Salome recommended a cosmetic product in her zatsudan, said product topped Amazon top seller chart shortly afterwards
>>25706488>EN clipsNGMI
>>25707494Proof this thread?
Either shitposting or people genuinely don't know how marketing works.
>>25707414doesn't Re:Act have like a bunch of lolis that do asmr?
>>25707495I'm just saying if she is blowing up in EN like people here claim, the clip numbers would be much better. Even Pekora has more EN clips than Salome.
>>25707154Salome is the biggest streamer in the world right now
>>25707494Same happened for Nene so you don't exactly need 100k viewers to pull that off, just don't be a 3-view.
>>25707494well CHADcast literally over trafficked a website by just mentioning it and they just had around 15k ccv that time
>>25707671AFAIK, Hano is also one of those who regularly does ASMR, but i dunno why Aria was the only one that got targeted.
>>25706237Can anyone QRD what happened here?
>>25707579It was talked /here/ before too >>25386220
>>25707494prrof?although even if true, this isn't new>>14552787 >>14552951
Kronii 10k
>kronii 10ki was kinda expecting megaman to be a megadebuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDgG9hYjzNMFauFau ...
>Gura minecra with like half of council in VC>25k>Gura minecra solo>23kyikes
>>25708275Faunaschizo going to flip now that shes overlapping randomly
>>25708281How is NijiEN doing these days?
so what were desuwa's numbers for today's stream
>>25708281>3D myth event on Guras channel 38k>Gura unarchived karaoke #47 40kChumbuds just dont care
>>25708275Baechama...why must they all overlap you
>>25708274Why? Megaman numbers have been decent for Holo, as far as I can recall
>>25708533the Pekora one had good numbers afaik.
>>25705016GO KOBO GO
>>25708354Eating well considering a Niji talent is getting 90-100k CCV per stream.
>>25708395This is IRyS and Kronii's timeslot (with Mumei being there occasionally too). Baelz and Fauna should go back to their timeslot (does Baelz even have one with how her streams are all over the place? Is her exam over yet?), or we are going to get 5-6 streams at the same time in this timeslot after IRyS finishes recording this month and Mumei returns from her trip
>>25708281?https://holo.poi.cat/stream/5QPIaKu7hjocollab>21khttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/heA_fcPrSV0solo>23k
SOVL time
>>25708046they show how well nijiEN go in North America audienceevery one lost their sides with how blatant misleaded the graph is
what went wrong?
for eops, someone translated the anykara slideshttps://twitter.com/Zeroblade/status/1534360516273242112?s=20&t=hD98rqAvdXz4rJkr5MhHmg
>>25708753I was being generous and using https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RE3AU0oSEHc because this was single POV for a large part of it, whereas the one you linked was multi POV for a large part (Ame)
>>25708824Blue women all draw from the same common pool. When they overlap they begin sapping each other's power.
>>25708824>EN Megaman at 10k CCV>JP Zatsu at noon at 8.5k CCVLooks fine to me. What's wrong?
>>25708852>-enikara holds the IP rights to the vtuber character -- which leads to a pretty high retention rate of their talent
>>25708852> One risk noted is the dependency on top talents. it says they have support systems to make it enticing to stay, and that it's difficult to conduct vtuber activities independent of the company.> support systemWhat?
>>25708274>>25708533It was about neutral when IRyS played MM2
>>25709040Bear in mind this is addressed at tarded boomer investors. They have to explain that they "owe" these "celebrities".
>>25708908not the best comparison since that was duo pov that funneled into solo pov
>>25708984>kroni>blue holoi think you forgot to wear your eyeglasses
Fauna rickrolling 6k people
>>25709040no wonder why Melissa fucked off kek. why put in effort if you know you never own anything in that agency?
I hate this green whore so fucking much. She had all fucking day and now is when she fucking does it. Stupid bitch.
>>25709136she is kind of blue anon, just darker shades of it. strongest of her gen when she wants to flex her strength but instead decides to play Obra Dinn part 6
>>25704791>JUNE 2022 GOLD1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,2512) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,6963) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,4854) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,6075) Miko (Hololive) - 98,8586) Watame (Hololive) - 77,7937) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke>PER COMPANY6x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha, Watame, Mio2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY108x: Hololive40x: Nijisanji7x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua13x: Miko12x: Kuzuha7x: Subaru, Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Mio, Salome, Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.
Faunaschizo isn't going to like this...
>>25709136Kronii being a blue holo has never ever been contested. Hell ENs have made jokes about her and Gura being blue on fucking stream. Maybe you need your eyeglasses.
>>25709114even if its sana it was still 3-5khttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/trsa_NNnSSQ
>>25709245Once I thought he was some sort of chumbud or someone who cares about "EN Gold" but it seems he seethes at any overlap whatsoever.
>>25708852Quoting interesting parts only>despite having been around since 2018, they'd been working on fairly thin margins (5% in FY2019 and 1% in FY2020) which only skyrocketed to 20% in FY2021 (30% in FY2022) -- likely due to explosion in vtuber interest partly caused by the pandemic>the slides highlight VTA as a step in between applying to be a vtuber and becoming one under niji>it's kind of an open secret that niji tends to pick up those with experience as an internet personality; not sure if VTA is still a necessity for those with prior experience>one slide shows niji EN watch hours. the JP count is a gentle upward trend (probably niji hako-oshi) while overseas sees explosive growth at the lux/noct debuts>they project a growth of around 20% year-over-year with current trends>one risk noted is dependency on top talents. it says they have support systems to make it enticing to stay, and that it's difficult to conduct vtuber activities independent of the companyAnd this one is a lie>apparently the pawapuro koshien finals stream in 2021 broke the youtube record of greatest number of viewers with over 200kSince Coco's graduation a few months before got more than twice of that.
I swear to God if she fucking passes Bae with this shitty fucking karaoke... This is some real bullshit that she fucking overlaps Bae and Kronii for NO REASON
>>25709175Anon, it's the same for Holo as well. Even Suisei has sold her rights over Suisei to Cover year(s) ago
>>25709397seethe
>>25708852>-basically reflective of how lux/noct are the gateway for many overseas viewers and that they tapped into a new marketLies and slander, VirtuaReal already tapped into China.>it says they have support systems to make it enticing to stay>-enikara holds the IP rights to the vtuber character -- which leads to a pretty high retention rate of their talentRefer to >>25709040>-there are just 200+ employees with 100+ vtubers (iirc this only includes JP/KR/ID). surprisingly not that bigWhy is it that vtuber companies are so small?
>>25709321that wouldn't make much sense since Gura is as close to being fauna prime as fauna is being chumbud primeplus fauna has a body for chumbuds
Another silver for migoBut can she get 90k?
>>25709369>And this one is a lieProbably meant their (AnyKara) Youtube record. There are shit tons of streams over 200k CCV before Koshien 2021
>>25709465Should've posted this. Kek.
>>25709040Most Vtuber companies did that.
>>25709190>>25709259still not considered as "blue" in holo thogura, pekora, kobo and suisei has lighter shades and they're pretty much a league of their own
>>25709175>>25709422yeah pretty much every company that knows what they are doing does this, and when they don't do it you get shit like cyberlive
>>25709469>Why is it that vtuber companies are so small?You don't need a lot of people to run vtubing companies.
Jesus, why can't anyone get the data from Cover? We will never be able to know financials from Cover in 2021.
>>25709469>Lies and slander, VirtuaReal already tapped into China.VirtuaReal isn't fully Nijisanji's / AnyKara's. They are more of a Bilibili group borrowing Niji's IP. Their growth barely benefit Niji at all>Why is it that vtuber companies are so small?Why do they have to be big? It's not like there are that much work to deal with
>>25706509>RisuDude
>>25709668Not even him but fucking go risu go. Jesas.
>>25709558I mean by this logic Lamy is also not a blue holo even though she's literally the second most blue after Suisei in design
>>25709638Because they haven't released it yet. The fiscal year ended on March 31st and they have 1-3 months to release their financial report.
I guess even with buff stacked against them, Anykara is still much bigger than Cover.
>>25709638Didn't someone already posted it? You just need to pay roughly 500 yen to service like TDB or something.
>>25709369Feels like their growth projections are overly influenced by Luxiem's volatile and partially fake audience that are already falling off. I'd be really skeptical about investing a lot with them if it was my money, not because I think they'll fail and lose it, but the returns aren't going to be all that amazing.
>>25709798It's going to be 3 months soon. If there's nothing then Cover is admitting defeat.
>>25709668Iofi isn't doing bad either
>>25709638It'll be leaked at the end of this month or next month, same time as last years leak.
>nene nissin>botan Red Bull>rami sakePolbros...
>>25709845yeah we know that, but not the average nip boomer looking to invest their money
>>25709843That one was 2020 financial report and investor pitch deck.>>25709858>If there's nothing then Cover is admitting defeat.Anon you are retarded.
>>25709806Always has been. Although maybe Cover is bigger by the number of employees (~300vs~200), Anycolor has many times of Cover's capitals.
Fauna 9k
>>25709896polpol so rich she says no to sponsorships and blow her money on polden every week
>>25709896Anon, Polka has her own show
>>25710031What makes Cover so incompetent anyway? They have 2 years and they still can't surpass Anykara.
>>25710031>>25709806>>25710221stop hitting yourself
Let's goooo
Only 3D debut that can save holo now, wait isn't that niji specialty?!
>>25709747>she might as well not actually be because of how of a flop she is
mom's spaghetti gets fauna to 10k
>Fauna sing Lose Yourself>Got 10kSHADYBROS, I KNEEL
Fauna 10k, seethe faunaschizo
FAUNA 10K LET'S FUCKING GOOOO
this guy just got his youtube account terminated
>>25710535Wait WHAT? Why????
How to save luxiem and noctyx? Do you think them being marketed at women turn off potential male fans?
Fauna touched 10k not bad for arguably the weakest singer
REIMU MY DOG DIED LETS GO
>>25710535I’ll never forgive the French
>>25710561Susan hates nijisanji
>>25710566According to Luca his audience is 62% female and 38% male
>>25710535never heard of him
>>25710535Nijisanji will save him, don't worry.
>>25710578Did the Chinese kill and eat her dog?
>>25710535got banned the same way as Aria?
>>25710664He's a really good singer. Was buddies with Melissa. Streams games on the shorter side generally.
>>25710727Seems like it, it's not the bots at any rate
>>25710656VPN probably defaults to male
>>25710740Hope he is not as stupid as Melissa
>>25710578Chink fujos ddoxed her and killed her dog...
>Mysta 650k endurance...
>>25710830Potential EN Gold?
>>25710830Again? He failed last night.
>IPO officially opens>one of their YT channels got bannedheh the sabotage is just starting
>>25710905Nigger he played Minecraft earlier for his 650k and only got 11k. There's literally nothing he can do to pass Gura.
緑ラミィどりゃあああああああああああ
>>25710794it's based on YouTube accountVPN or not doesn't matter
>>25710955Unarchived karaoke possibly. Even unwormed it could possibly reach mid 20k.
>>25710915As long as it's not Salome's or to a lesser extent, Kuzuha's, it won't matter
>>25710915dirty tactics from Cover huh
>>25711060Anykara only need one vtuber to take on a whole rival company
>>25711113Cover is scrambling to not lose any more money, they wouldn't have time for this though.
>>25710965Viva la El Lamy Verde!
>>25711131Good, they only have one such vtuber. Not a lot of options.
>>25711205cover is raking in the dough
>>25711205they have millions of dollars and they're making more money than they loose
>>25711272What dough? Unless they release their statement, we wouldn't know how much they have lost from useless ventures in the first half of the year.Until then, Anykara is still winning in all fronts.
>>25711205>Cover is scrambling to not lose any more moneyBut the haven't lost any money though? You're not suggesting that because Salami is popular Cover somehow is magically losing money? You're not that retarded, right?
>>25711272they are probing if they can get away with this before tries with a bigger fishjust like riku did with the view farm
28k watching HoloEN without Gura
Fauna is actually a stupid selfish bitch for doing this when others are streaming and canabalizing their views. Fucking whore.
Are people here retarded or just larping? I feel like we got raided recently by a bunch of idiots. It's going to take a lot more than one new successful streamer for Nijisanji to even begin competing with Hololive. Whatever, I'm going back to watching Kronii.
>>25711379>last post defended Cover>this post throwing baityou're too obvious, brony
>>25711444faunaschizo-chama...
11k
>>25711481Then Anykara just has to release another one, it's going to be easy with the backing from investors.
>>25711444I like Fauna but she could have done this earlier in the day or even tomorrow. EN really need their managers to do their job and help them coordinate their schedules better.
>>25711481Cope, seethe and dilate faggotbig numbers > small numbers; and no one in Holo can even compete with Salome right now. Wouldn't be surprised if every company decides to pull support and sponsorships from Cover and would rather gun for Niji because of Salome.
>>25704759what were Ina's numbers during her last public karaoke?
Fauna's improved a lot in her singing, right? Is this just the confidence from her orisong release?
>>25711610This isn't the first time she's done a guerilla this late and it won't be the last. She probably thought to do this last minute, she has no schedule and was dead on twitter for a full day.
Fauna really filled another gap of void viewership at this time, great job
>>25711630like 16k? I think she and mumei get similar numbers
>>25711481>recently
>>2571163017.1k (Unarchived Karaoke on 17th April)
>>25711652shes also had a vocal coach for like 8 or 9 months at this point
>>25711630pretty good since Ina karaoke has a rarity buff especially
>>25711619We will have to wait if Nissin will extend Hololive sponsorship after this year. They are the biggest Hololive sponsors after all, next to Bushiroad.
>>25709369>apparently the pawapuro koshien finals stream in 2021 broke the youtube record of greatest number of viewers with over 200kwhere?
So far anycolors market cap has doubled from the first few hours of the ipo, this stat is still kinda useless as the buying activity is crazy right now, but I'll keep an eye on the closing price.
>>25706376Chink viewfarm provider
>>25712081Isn't this a big deal that a vtuber company finally goes public?
>>25712081People always underprice IPOs so it will do that.
>>25712033He probably means Powerpro or Nijisanji record
>>25712081what's the lock out period for insiders to sell? usual 1 month?
FAUNA SAID ASSCRACK
>>25709236If you give Salome 4 golds, you should also give her her 5th gold. This was her 1M buff stream.
>>25712081ACCELERATEPUMP IT
>>25711481>He thinks Anon, think a little harder. It's pretty obvious bait by people 'pretending' to be retarded.
I'm serious, but I wish Yagoo was more ambitious than being a fun-loving uncle. I don't think Cover's investors should be happy now that their competitor is getting this much attention.
>>25712363(You)
>>25712363
HoloEN 27k without Gura and just 3 council members. Huh
>>25712292LOUDER
kek
>>25712837Faunaschizo on suicide watch
>>25712837bohemian rhapsody is a good song for hershe's also kinda unhinged today
>>25712880Fauna schizo, doko? Clearly bae and kronii should make way for the superior numbers and dogeza to Fauna, funneling all the viewers to her
>>25712837
>>25712363Eh, they don't need to do anything right now for a couple reasons.1. Their audience isn't going anywhere. Hololive fills a specific niche and that niche is loyal. Even with most of their top talent on break Hololive is still putting up rediculous numbers.2. YAGOO probably understands, better than most, how cyclical internet "hype" is. There is no need to rush anything and their next big project will have the attention on them again. Whether that be EN 3 or BLOOM 2 or whatever.The Ironic thing is that slow and steady has always been what Cover is good at and it will play to their advantage again.
>>25712749When they aren't all playing dumb debuff shit, they're capable of getting decent numbers. (Yes, I'd say MMX is not a debuff game, it's probably one of the best Megaman X games, beaten maybe by only MMX2.).
>>25710535not this shit again
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE
>>25712916I know right? I swear she reminds me of myself when I drink alcohol.
>>25712941You are replying to the samefagging schizo anon
>>25712941>2. YAGOO probably understands, better than most, how cyclical internet "hype" is. There is no need to rush anything and their next big project will have the attention on them again. Whether that be EN 3 or BLOOM 2 or whatever.Dude HoloX 3D is coming very soon? Did everyone forget?
>>25712941>Their audience isn't going anywhere>Salome has the biggest overlap with Holo-only watchers>if anything, hype from Hololive has died and their audience has moved on to watching normie streamersLMAO, keep telling yourself that Holofaggot. One day your lies will become real.
>>25712941HOLOCOPEOLOCOEP
>>25712749Because of the variety. There's a retro game stream, meme game stream, and a karaoke.
>>25712941They are still putting up insane numbers and the shit posting is blinding people to it. I really hope when Pekora/Marine/Suisei/Aqua come back that they let Miko take a little break. She is busting her ass right now being the ace of Hololive.
>>25712941This. I really love yagoo's business approach. It's better to take thing slowly and solidify the foundation rather than het drunk on the hype and ignore the big picture in the long run. He actually cares about holo's continuation instead of making big bucks and using it as a stepping stone for the next big thing.
reminder
>>25713068>>25713070Nijiseethe
>>25712081here's a jap watch party of it or whatever they're doing herehttps://youtu.be/xXSGI8abweA
>>25713070>>25713154
>>25713034I wouldn't call the 3D debuts themselves big projects but what that means is that now HoloX can be more involved with the actual big projects.Now please do something for IRyS Cover. Please...
>almost 1m subs>sub 4k ccvI'd understand if she's in older gens like roboco of gen 1 or matsuri of gen 2 but this clown slut is still pretty much new like holy fuck
>>25713432Nigger it's the 3rd stream of a game that shouldn't be streamed period
>>25713471This. I see it as>4view on that game? nice
>>25713309nijiseethe
YAGOO = ZUNDiscuss
>>25713585
>>25713168>thursday>mondaywhy
>>25713585>both have popular IPs at the height of their careers>never improve anything past their height, is now overshadowed by their competitors>both IPs now irrelevant to the current climate, only oldfags still think it's goodLMAO, Yagoo = ZUN is real
>>25713585Zun makes good music though
>>25713748holy shit Zun really is Yagoo
>>25709517Where to see her schedule?
>>25713993https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1534296659991363584
>>25713168The bottom one looks better than Noel's.
>>25709517depending on the character she makeprobably 80k there will be lots of overlaps
>>25709517At some point she HAS to make Pekora right?
>>25714349Pekora will never give her permission. She probably won't even ask her in the first place.
dangerously based fauna poster
>>25714349listen anon, this whole thing is from peko's side. miko is the only one that has even mentioned the whole situation while peko is pretending miko isn't a person. peko won't let her do it, so she won't
OkayHypothetical question, since it's lunch time on SEA anywayMiko WWE, but she makes CocoNumber prediction?
>>25714690110k?
>>25714690Still can't beat salami
>>25714690too early sadly. she didn't graduate for another few weeks
>>25714690It's too late for Coco to matter, even as a gimmick. Wouldn't really raise her number significantly (maybe another few thousands plus, but that's about it).
>>25715065you underestimate the power of clipfags and redditors mate.
>>25715065you underestimate the power of taiwan
>>25714349We'll get the PekoMiko MikoPeko war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRB1G0cKpIk
>>25713727>Tohou>irrelevantYou realize even most Nijis are tohoufags, right zoomer?>>25712363>I don't think Cover's investors should be happy now that their competitor is getting this much attentionThey just had a succesful collab with a niche gacha game to the point there is already a new one in the workshttps://twitter.com/vconnect_en/status/1529349915142680576?And don't forget they just got Atlus perms (through the homos apparently) which is something Niji does not have yet.Their investors must be fine
>>25715361>be Hololive>have 400k subbed redditors in r/Holo>still can't beat Salome's 100k average CCVkeep dreaming Holofag
>>25705016>we keep losing the EN what do we do now?>let's make it international!and remove nari from there, technically she's nijiJP now you shitposting faggot
>>25715832dont let them know damn it, they'll say they are 2hou fans for 10 years as soon as salami mentions it in a stream
>>25709517she won't even get silver, Salome is doing a totsu today before midnight
>>25709517No, only 27 holos gave her permission and I doubt Pekora is one of them
Shoto is slowly gaining on Ike and Luca.
now how many Rucia cvv. 10k+ ?
>>25715922Yeah, this. Let's not do this international thing.
>>25716067Twitch don't count. Feel free to compare to other twitchers.
Test
>>25715922This isn't even EN faggots, this is literally shitty ass IDniggers who want to flex like the obnoxious cunts they are
>>25715899r/Hololive is dead af nowadays
>>25716222Western vtubing peaked in late 2020.
>>25716222Coco kept that subreddit alive on her own
>>25716222>peaked when myth debutedneed gen3 then /vt/ and r/hololive will be crowded for couple of months
>>25716222you know that's comparable to the activity on r/anime right?
>>25716406Gen3 won't do shit, it was only as active as it was because of Coco and now that she's gone there's nothing to bring people back because they can't get the attention they crave
>>25716406look at the peaks near council and holoX debut, it's gone now
>>25716503good.
>>25716222is there any graphs for r/nijisanji?
>>25716222That's because everyone went to discord and /vt/
>>257165902 months after myth debut i left, there`s endless en post after myth debut and i cant get any info for other branch now here i am
>>25716573They're not reclining but they're still way smaller than r/Nijisanji
>>25716573of course we do
>>25705118Boring, she's pretty much the embodiment of everything /vt/ used to hate about western Vtubers, namely that they have no personalities or talent and they barely stream. The Numbers thread thought she was suspicious because she had good numbers but wasn't doing anything like anniversary or concerts to get them, and that drove people up the wall. For all that /#/ went crazy investigating her for botting, all they really discovered was that there wasn't any good reasons for her, success and that was it.
>>25716573oh right you want comments
>>25716730>>25716732inclining?!
Imagine paying hundreds of thousands for a group MV only to not use it anymore just because of one retard. Anyway, 3M. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F61eDAXtmnw
>>25716590/vt/ inclining could be due to /NijiEN/
>>25716152That's the number of his subscribers on his YouTube channel. That site tracks only their YouTube numbers.
How come Nijisanji has such a bigger influence on vt than reddit?
>>25716732>they're still way smaller than r/NijisanjiWhat?
>>25717175Does he actually stream on yt or is it just clips/VODs like a lot of twitch people do?
>>25716898noefure will be the only two standing in that gen before long
>>25716763can't tell that this is bait or actually serious
>>25717291Reddit has more moderation, so shitposters that wanna shitpost do so here instead so they won't get banned there.
>>25717309*r/Hololive
>>25717291People here are deeper into the weeds of the vtuber ecosystem than people on reddit. That's why there's threads for Taiwanese, Indonesian, Korean, Israeli ect vtubers.
>>25717323not much it seemshttps://www.youtube.com/c/ShotoYT/videos?view=2&live_view=503
>>25717417Guess it counts, technically.
>>25717291unironically because the entire nijisanji fanbase is here
>>25717332>noel dies first in every fanwork>is the last man standing in the end
>>25717470They're mostly on discords. Kick over some rocks and you'll find a bunch of them squirming around down there.
>>25717411Based 4chan, no wonder r/Hololive is dead while /nijiEN/ is thriving
>>25717411>That's why there's threads for Taiwanese, Indonesian, Korean, Israeli ect vtubers>Taiwanese>Korean>Israeliall of these get less activity than one thread on r/vyt, Korean especially
>>25717323He started streaming on YouTube recently. His older content were all either shorts or 10+ minute edited videos.
Faunaschizo BTFO
so... what the fuck happened to them?
>>25717523Does anyone have the number of vtuber fan discords? I think discord numbers seem like a more reliable metric to see if Nijisanji or Hololive is more popular in the EN side.
>>25717591>youtube vtubers go to twitch for valorant>twitch vtuber plays valorant on youtubeokay?
>>25717653No because you can't get an accurate count of the number of discord servers
>>25717622management left/changed and a bunch of them jumped ship during this change keeping their models
>>25713168Oh god my dick isn't ready for Chloe'sIf she does another hypnotism thing in 3d my dick won't be able to handle it.
> No /biz/ thread about the IPO yetcowards
>>25717653Hololive is obviously more popular on the EN side
>>25717764it should be possible to scrape the larger discords and the main ones dedicated to each streamer and get a rough estimate but it's unlikely someone from /here/ will do it
>>25717653>DiscordsFuck off seaniggersThe only metric of popularity is CCV
A reminder to my Niji friends. The biggest vtuber in the world doesn't even know who you are, lmao.Diamond City Lights? What is that?
HIMEHINA is the biggest OG VTuber channel that still primarily uploads pre-edited content that's still somewhat growing currently.https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/user/1A418E3295B56D96_de5097
When will they play a newer megaman such as X4 instead of those Nes-Snes games
>>25717792this is /#/, /biz/, /hlg/, /dsw/ and /news/ anyways so this thread is the right place
>>25717967Got a decent amount of views on their recent MV.
>>25717653It isn't, you can tell that just from the streams and VODs. Most of Luxiem's fans are gonna be in Chinese social media communities anyway, and good luck finding or navigating those.
>>25717947When a lot of her JP senpai are talking about Salome it feels like either Gura knows and doesn't wanna admit it or is seething and she's trying to hide it.
>>25717947I thought it was funny people in hlg were all writing "omg based" instantly when she said that, even though they all obviously knew what it was.
>>25718091She did say Desuwa no?
>>25718034>beaten by artistnothing personel kid
>>25717622A lot either became indies or transferred to other corpos.
> entire post chain about the S** moderation nukedMIND = BROKENYou know what to do anons : https://4channel.org/feedback
>>25718127Didn't Gura say something about watching other vtubers? I highly doubt her recommended page would not have the song.
>>25718127I only know what it is because I come here. I am 100% Hololive exclusive and have never heard the song.
>>25718169this cover is a waste of good art
>>25718206>>25718159Yeah, feels like she's just pretending not to know at this point, for what reason? Probably management told her not to.
>>25718206I mean I've actually listened to the Ethyria song when it came out and I can't remember the name of it, just seeing something in passing on your rec page isn't going to seer it eternally into your memory.
>>25714349What happened to PekoMiko?
Bae and Fauna ended same time so Kronii should see something
>>25718296Why are you replying to me? I don't even know wtf is Diamond city lights let alone Gura but she did say Desuwa so she probably knows Salome
>>25717323he's gonna have one last stream on YT, twitch might bonk him
>Another Suisei cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPh4m2VnfNoTricologe
>>25717323he has a separate channel for VODs
>>25718448Wrong link?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc_-keez4xs
I just joined Kronii from Fauna's. Why is she membership only?
>>25718296>>25718391NijiEN girls are irrelevant let alone their musics why the fuck would you expect EVERY HOLO to know anything about their stuff
>>25718489Yeah, but I guess that's the OG
>>25718496backseat rage i think. she was getting clapped over and over for a bit. but i was watching fauna mostly
>>25718496she's seething
>>25718345Dead. Killed. Miko did bring it up on stream and said it was RIP.
>>25718496Gamer-rage.
>>25718522https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ijFuoASt0The Project Sekai version is really good and you can somehow hear Suisei in it
>>25718185MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD Removing posts about them being criticized, even jannies mental well being getting influenced by /#/
>>25718391How long before Desuwa becomes a viral meme in EN?
>>25717653already forgot about the convention attendance mogging?
>>25716222>Coco dies into one final spike with Council debuts
>>25718091>Gura>Cares anythingLMAO
>>25718722She won't. Everyone who watches her keeps telling us her humour is very JOP oriented. We don't have the reps nor the IQ to get it.
ollie going to take over the throne
>>25718722>This is what Nijinigger is reduced to>Anyone saying Desuwa is someone who knows Salome and is trying to leech from her
>>25718804
>>25718823>doubting the influence of clippersngmi
I'm predicting right now that EoP pandering with be Salome's first Great Filter. Current estimates, she'll drop 40k Viewers, permanently.Feel free to grudgepost me.
>>25718863in /sp we call them niggers bandwagons
>>25718722Never, there's a reason why there's a copy pasta of her "appeal" that EOP won't "get it"
Holy shit Chigusa is a debuff
>>25717947>The biggest vtuber in the worldwho?
>>25718835>ollie going to take over the throneand yet she's still getting just 1/3 of her ccv
>>25718233samei dont even know what it is. im just thread reading that its a song that belongs to a niji?
>>25718913that's not far from her usual valorant numbers
>>25718949cookieswirlc of course
>>25718954she isn't though
>>25718954ollie is not a sub 1k streamer what the fuck are you talking about?
>>25710535the fucking timing, right after the IPO lmao
>>25718470His VoD channel grew by 76k subscribers in the last month, and is still currently growing at a 2k/day pace.
>>25718949Goor Goombus of Hololive English
>>25718722>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Hyakumantenbara Salome. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of endoscopic medicine most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Salomes nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterization - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodanya Volya literature, for instanse. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Hyakumantenbara Salome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor in Salomes existential catchphrase "Desu Wa" which itself is cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Rikus genius unfolds itself on their computer monitors. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Hyakumantenbara Salome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only. And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
>>25719042Why does people keep acting like this will affect the IPO? It won't since Salome is in the company already.
>>25718994Yes. To be specific its Lazulight's original song that they debuted with. The only reason I reven rememeber is because I occasionally check song numbers for Niji just to see how they're doing.
>>25718863Why do nijiniggers act like Salome invented Desuwa~?Desuwa is just a pet phrase of ojou-sama like anime characters
>>25718872Backing this up, I'm predicting her 1 Million Zatsudan will peak at 120k, and this is her ceiling which she will never reach again, after this she will only decline as the hype will have finally worn off. From there it's just freefall, with filters purging her down to a natural floor of 30k
>>25710535Good. Nijisanji is starting to trim the fat and soon everybody in the company will be gone aside from the great Salome!!
>>25718722NijiEN is already trying to force the meme on EN viewers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_hvGFue1whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH0EFi34MBw
>>25718949Every normalfags on earth knows herThat made her the biggest vtuber in the worldunlike Salome only Japs and people know vtubers know her
>>25719160And it's working already since I've seen people on Twitter keep repeating the meme. This will be the first Niji viral meme on the EN side
>>25719121Nijisanji fans are the JoJo fans of vtubing. They are all newfags who will parrot their catch phrase everywhere and ask "Is that a Salome reference"Pure newfag cancer.
>>25718823>>25718869They're trying to make "desuwa virus" a thing. Even got a bunch of Hololive clips titled that way.https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=desuwa+virus
>>25719195Anon, even xQc reacted to Salome's numbers today.
>>25719223lel
>>25719209It's only half original Nijifans. It's newfag Salomates taking ques from their most obnoxious assholes and then multiplying it and spreading it everywhere
>>25719160so are kobo, ollie and others>>25719121dont think anyone think she invented it but vtubers using desuwa just after she debuted is kind of obvious
>>25719160They just can't let anything grow organically can they? Yet they wonder why they fail.
>>25719050I'm shocked his vod channel shows up first when "Shoto" is searched on YT, I guess that's why he inclined, also non-twitch fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q072qQTCQFYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q072qQTCQFYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q072qQTCQFYIT'S ORISONG TIME
So-called "accountant-anon" here. I hate this slide so much that I saved it in my memes folder instead of my numbers folder.WOAH x30 MARGIN that means literally nothing, why add a MS Paint bubble to the chart, why add MS Paint arrows to the other chart. I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this I hate this Anycolor is a very successful company, they don't need to pump themselves up like this. The chart speaks for itself. Intern-kun if you're here stop relying on gimmicks, you just come across as inauthentic.
>>25719121VTubers recently starting to say desuwa can be attributed to Salome's rising popularity, since they never usually said that on stream before. Them saying desuwa doesn't even make sense in the context of what they were currently streaming. Desuwa is the joke itself.
>>25717947https://youtu.be/LDBzsebO8hY
>>25718722She's doing an EN pandering stream (English learning) so probably soon.
>>25719273They're just applying the acceleration strategy to their memes. Oversaturating the market
>>25719223this shit is so cursed that as I clicked the link in the stream I have in the other screen Qpi just said desuwa and mentioned salami
>>25719231xQc knows vtubersHe even collab with ironmouse
>>25719195Kizuna AI?
>>25719296Don't post at this time, nijishills are here
>>25719209hi honey
>>25719209holobronies done this too to the anime community with pekora's laughxarrow everywhere
>>25719304If she gets 100k for that stream, it will be the biggest EN stream for a JP vtuber ever.
Is Suisei funding all these covers herself?
>>25719160>21k>5.9kOh nyo~Anyways forcing it is how you fucking kill this shit super quick.
>>25719202>>25719262>>25719273>>25719310This might end up like the nanodesu Rushia virus situation if things go badly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEyNPMOyIkg
>>25719310More like accelerating to the garbage bin, heck they don't even have an "English" market, who are they appealing this to?
>>25719363Desu Wa is so generic you can't even place its origin as a meme, because it's just a common Japanese verbal tic
>>25719384It will probably encourage other chuubas to give it a try if she gets numbers that high.Salami unironically bridging the east and west once again.
>>25719388Yes. She's pretty much stated that as far as song budgets go, she doesn't even ask 'how much does it cost' nowadays and instead is 'can you get so and so for this?'.
>>25719411The idea is that by oversaturating the market, the numbers will get better somehow. Literally what Nijisanji does to their talent
>>25716590well of course, Sept 2020 coincides with the EOP invasion of /jp/ + reddit.At least on /jp/ you could keep JP Holo discussion alive in a thread or two, which is why most JP holofags (the original redditors) moved over to /jp/ and then /vt/ when it was created.
>>25719323He got the shit beat out of him by VTubers on stream twice. First by Selen in Overwatch, then by EN indie girl_dm_ in Elden Ring.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTERDHVUHwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQjGNUYtFAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q072qQTCQFY
https://youtu.be/q072qQTCQFYhttps://youtu.be/q072qQTCQFYhttps://youtu.be/q072qQTCQFYGET IN
>>25719466And that strategy nets them investors after investors.Look, it's good that your Yagoo cares about the market and talents, but the business does not care about feelings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGBG8nWzFEmeanwhile in hololive
>>25719341She pretty big for normalfags tho...Even pewdiepie collab with her
>>25719516if they actually had investors they wouldn't be going for an IPO
>>25719506Just fucking watch Niji MV dude, this list is sad.
>>25719223> nijiniggers and forced memesname a more iconic duo
>>25719516you don't know jack shit about business SEAmonkey
>>25719160LMAO, forced meme is forced. The whole "virus" thing in vtuber communities is also primarily a Hololive thing. Niji just can't stop leeching.
>>25719565no I only watch hololive
>>25719417its not even a meme and neither A was. just letting everyone knows that outside from their oshi's stream, most of them are jojo tier at obnoxiously inserting their oshi's references to other communities
>>25719231Proofs?
>>25719516Why are you larping as a Nijisanji fanboy?
>>25719593>larping
>>25719535Peak Ai Kizuna is bigger than all vtuberHer fall is very unfortunate...
>>2571765350k online on Hololivevs20k online on Nijisanji
>>25710953Stupid Megman > 650k celebrateLoL niji EN
>>25719602It's pretty obviously not genuine, no one seriously talks like that so it's probably a falseflag
>>25719527Hololive fans are just built different. One of the most engaged fan communities I've seen involved in anything.
Kek the original image is too lewd for prtimeshttps://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000698.000030268.html
>>25718872We already saw that with Chloe when she tried to set up an English learning stream.
>>25719674What is the original image?
huh there are an awlful lot of hololive songs that get 40-50k each week,
>>25719692
ENTER OJOU
>>25719716i badly want to put my dick in between her boobs
>>25719516>And that strategy nets them investors after investors.Who are you kidding? And now that they're going public, I wonder what will happen to their "talents" which are unprofitable? And those talents even get a really low cut out of their profits.
>>25719734Why does this list include Salome?
>>25719296> those meme arrowsUGHHH they don't belong on a company slide...
>>25719734does she need to access the atm again?
>>25719535>>25719625Eventual return and offcollab with Pewdiepie, LET'S FUCKING GO!!!
>>25719801Anon in a couple of years people who grew up on 4chan are going to start entering middle and upper management positionsThink about that for a moment
Now that Melissa is gone, what other big number singers do Nijisanji have?
BAE BAE BAE
>>25719296>>25719801Are you fags being retarded right now ir is this the usual numberfag shitposters
NEGIU...
>>25719691That's what I'm basing my prediction on. Chloe lost 60% of her audience, so Salami with 80k floor dropping to 40k sounds about right for an EoP pandering stream after a celebration Zatsudan.
>>25719652Megaman is buff gameUr Son of a bitch
>hundreds of thousand dollars worth MV>only ranked 21, getting nogged by older and dirt cheap MVskek this is sad
>>25719842ROFMAO does pretty well
>IRyS already dropped to 17 two weeks in
Pretty good I'd say
>>25719750keeping them is basically free. they don't pay a salary and don't make merch beyond anniversary goods for them, 3D debuts are always huge income spikes so no reason to deny it to those who meet the quota (100k subs)the slides talk about focusing on the top talents and promoting them better to make it attractive to stay and vaguely about what I said above
>>25719750Anon, Riku is a giant saviorfag, more than Yagoo, why would he cut underperforming members? There are hundreds of them in Nijisanji and they're fine.Those who leave are doing it because of selfish reasons, and they still languish without the help of Anykara.
>>25719842Kuzuha, Lauren, Chima, etc
>>25719888>>25719890duality
>>25719835
IRyS my sweet and lovely nephilim!!!!
>>25719902>Riku is a giant saviorfagIf he was Lulu would still be with nijisanij
>>25719750Kataribe dont stream for 3 years anon
>>25719909Is this based on numbers only, right?
>>25719888She's getting La+/Kiara numbers with her MV that released a month late. Not too bad
>>25719842For the girls, Toko and Chima music numbers are pretty good.
>>25719890YepIt's one of her best songs and is performing pretty well. No imagie if Cover didn't fuck up its release and had the MV ready when it was supossed to be ready. It would probably be over a million already.
>25719902This is such an obvious shitpost because to be this wrong actually requires a high degree of self awareness and understanding of Anykara's problems. You can't say things which are this totally inaccurate without somehow actually having an understanding of what the actual truth is, it's the exact opposite of reality.
>>25719883Decent numbers, but they don't really seem to have that many songs...
>>25720007I believe ROFMAO is still new?
>>25719716Was she always this big? Also, will those things bounce?
>>25719902> why would he cut underperforming members> Niji Shanghai> Niji Taipei> NijiIN> Yumenographia
>>25718345Miko sexually harassed Pekora after they stayed over together one night and they haven't been on speaking terms ever since.In any case Pekora has avoided or cancelled every potential collab appearance with Miko. It's pretty clear she's actively avoiding her, but no one knows the real reason so we can only make educated guesses.
>>25720089>Was she always this big?Yes>will those things bounce?Yes
>MV of an old song top 8i swear to fucking god she's missing so many numbers because of this OCD shit
>Q is already 4 months oldHoly fuck where has the time gone?
>>25720007have to blame Riku on that for not accelerating them enough
>>25720004Just saying the truth, I mean you can look at Lulu and Gibara now, they're pretty much falling into obscurity at this point. Not even JP is interested.If Melissa thinks she is high and mighty, without Nijisanji's machine behind her, she is fucked.
>>25720004they already paid the l2d model, they don't pay a salary, you really don't see good beyond the mandatory birthday shit. keeping them is literally near 0 cost as they're not treated as employees, foreign branches were likely terminanted because they required local staff to be hired and other budget for that region and so on, there's a reason why they dissolved two branches but didn't graduate all talents in it
VOX KILLER
holy fuck kobo song is just keeps accelerating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q072qQTCQFY10. Mori and Suisei - Capsule (160,243)9. Suisei - GHOST (163,468)8. Gura - REFLECT (188,333)7. Korone - Doggy God's Street (206,402)6. Mori and Gura - Q (260,665)5. Okayu - Doku no Ouji-sama (271,397)4. Suisei - Stellar Stellar (280,542)3. Kiara - Fever Night (303,739)2. Kobo - Mantra Hujan (333,996)1. Mori - Mera Mera (386,769)
MORI #1
Fucking kneel to the reaper, now and forever
>>25720171Blue girl is too strong
>>25713585Touhou fan gathered together every year and hold their own ComiketHolo fan can’t do that
>>25720208Sameket is a thing
>>25720171>>25720175
>>25719674There's a new teaser image with a new pose every day leading up to the stream. It's how it's been since gen 4.
>>25720144They're more successful as independent's than under Anykara's wing, because Anykara never did anything for them to begin with but obstruct them
>>25715952Lol2hu fandom are still strong as fuck. 20 years old and they are still the 4th biggest franchise in Comiket up there with FGO
>>25720089Yes
>>25720254anon, don't lie like this when some people here keep up with m****i and co
>>25720254Pfft holy shit now fags are spreading bullshit
>>25720171Does Vox even release songs?
I still don't get why anyone would still plan to join Niji at this point. If you graduate as a niji, you'll fall into obscurity, your years of being a vtuber is wasted since no one would give a shit about your roommate. If you graduate as a Hololive, you'd still get a moderate amount of success looking at Coco and Rushia on top of still getting revenue from music and the connections earned from being a Holo. You're essentially wasting one or two year being a vtuber under niji, afterwards, your resume wouldn't be as good for your future job.
>>25720097>25719Those aren't underperforming members, those are undeperforming branches. Except Yumenographia which isnt Niji.individual members never are cut if the branch itself is doing well, it only happens if the branch itself isn't.
>>25719527>>25719655And the talent acknowledges ithttps://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1534424781210419200you are insanecan't wait to be using BAE FONT!
>>25720249I know but Iroha's 3D prtimes used the original image https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000699.000030268.html
>>25720292I have no idea but I have a grudgepost here prepared for when he does>>24728160>>24729250
>>25720186>5 out of top 10 are holoENWTF? /#/ told me that the EN branch is dying.. i trusted you guys.
>>25720263What are the top 3?
>>25720292I have no idea but I have a grudgepost here prepared for when he does>>20875128
>>25719890IRyS us unironically inclining. Aside from her debut songs this is her best performing original and her Internet Overdose cover is also doing very well (500k in a week).
>>25720300This is fucking obvious but they all know it. The mistake you make is that you can't just "join" hololive. 5 per year, per branch, excluding vsingers which are pretty random. Nijisanji is way better than nothing
>>25720270Is she sticking with the longer hair or something? Her 3d debut picture depicts the longer hair variant.
>>25720306>25719What?
>>25720326FGO Genshin and the top are literally every Vtuber related circle fuse togetherIf the Vtuber were to be divided into companies they probably won’t be able to hold a candle to the big 3 in Japan
>>25720186>8. Gura - REFLECT (188,333)Which Reflect? There's like 4
>>25720171Maybe next time kobo. love you
>>25720300That's only if you made it big in Holo imo.Does anyone even talk about Aloe's alt or any of the CN branch at this point?
>>25719909>>25719954> ChimaShe has like 4-5 hit songs, but almost all of them are at least a year old. She VERY quickly drop off the 1M mark the more you scroll down.Okayu isn't the first person you'd think of when you say "Hololive singer" and even she has more consistent numbers.Toko is up there but most of her high tier songs are also a year or two old. I saw only one recent song in her 1M list, and even that was 7 months old.
>>25720300No job security, no salary, no future, Anykara is a terrible company to go with from a talent's perspective. The company is self sabotaging in the name of short term profits, they're unironically chinese shills
>>25720383the mv version
>>25720402Aloe literally graduated before she even debuted properly, how is that a counter? If Aloe managed to Debut properly she would have been set for years through the power of support of the holobox
>>25720168>you really don't see good beyond the mandatory birthday shitThis can be so easy to debunk just by checking even their official Twitter for once. They just had a bunch of travel-themed marches featuring Aki, the gen-1 that got the lowest number among all 3D debuts.https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/list?ima=2855&tag=TAG_93Also, their recent holiday-themed one has Earu, the second-lowest male member of Niji. You will still be able to participate in themed merch no matter how awful you performed but it may take longer between features you agian.https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/list?ima=2855&tag=TAG_97
>>25720224Salomeket? Holy kek Salome can't stop winning
>>25720047ah, right. Okay that's one good singing pillar I suppose.
>>25720364Yeah it seems that the change is permanent.
>>25720382Sorry I was wrong, it was Idolm@ster (of course)No Genshin last year but let’s see this year
>>25720422>memory wiped nenes Chinese centric costume pre-chink out>forgot mels prior treatment >EN branch managers are mostly garbage with omega being the most blatant>coco and rushiaLmao
>>25720402>Talking about ex-aloeLast I checked she still got like 4k+ for karaoke, so yes she's still able to get numbers. >holoCNThey never got great numbers to begin with.
>>25720474SHARK ONLY EVENThttp://same.ketto.com/
>>25720470The more I see it, the more I think Nijisanji might be a better choice than Hololive. Even low tier Nijisanji gets promoted and they accept everyone.On the other hand, Hololive only allows 5 mediocre people to join through nepotism.
>>25720300I mean if you're not good enough to get past Holo auditions, and if you get into Nijisanji, that's like the second best option.Not like graduated Nijis are doing badly or anything. It's like comparing an ex-Amazon employee vs and ex-Cisco employee.
>>25720470but all those are not personalized merch, it's all group merch. The low-performers are just shoved in there and they don't have a say to the designs.
>>25720532Hey look, a fag
>>25720508I'm sure you have some bullshit reason for the other 3 but what's wrong with the first
>>25720554How is that different from Hololive shoving top tier members with low tier members in promotion?
>All these back and forthBro at the end of the day it all boil down to whichever company the applicants think they will fit in. If they got the ability then they will make it big in any company anywayYou guys are overanalyzing things
>>25720554My god you actually know jack shit. Why do you keep setting yourself up like this just to be outed as a retard each time?
>>25720583He's implying that appealing to chinks is good
>>25720469but I agree with him that some holomems could graduate tomorrow and would pretty much vanish too, the only two examples we have now were THE superchat monsters of the company who to this day still sit at #1 and #2 of SCs numbers worldwide
>>25719855This song has some pretty good legs. Good for Bae. Song is a total banger too. I love it.
>>25720306> Riku is a giant saviorfag, more than Yagoo, why would he cut underperforming members> here are the underperforming members that he cut> those are undeperforming branchesmentally broken> Yumenographia which isnt NijiRiku owns Anycolor which owned Yumenographia.Mind = broken.Seethe more.
>>25720583Hololive wrongly pisses off China, so they have to cope.Nijisanji is bigger and freer yet they have never offended China. Why can't Hololive do the same?
>>25720583>>25720605No dipshits, you fags trying to pretend that cover never pandered to the bugmen.
>>25720591the difference is they also got personalized merch on their birthdays and anniversaries>>25720604what is it that i don't know about pray tell?
>>25720342Ya love to see it. Love IRyS, simple as
>>25720591It's not, but low tier holos are miles ahead of low tier nijis with personalized merch and even in group push they get more
>>25720474Unironically yeshttps://twitter.com/kettocom/status/1534372775825383424
>>25720532
>>25720483Good thing I like both, but I can imagine some fans may be sad that she's no longer sticking to her short hair. (Just like some were sad over the mask)
>>25720641They did, Flare's default was the same as well I think.And?
>>25720633cope more zhang, lmao
https://youtu.be/yaxB6crvFi8GOLD
>>25720604you're such a retard that you think you're talking to a single person here, and I can tell this because you gave me an (You) thinking I was some other guy even when our typing habits don't match
>>25720666People said that Chloe's short hair looks like Noel so she changed it to long hair + braid. Well for me I like her new hair.
>>25720644>The low-performers are just shoved in there and they don't have a say to the designs.It’s a well known fact that low tier shitters chose what they design for merch. Some retarded fans bought a shitty drawing on a t-shirt as merch once.low tier shitters also get support but they sure as hell don’t get shoved. If you want a really good example of this, look no further than naruse, the little bitch
>>25720700more like bronze lmao, Sarome has 2 entries today.
>>25720532>The nepotism spammer is an indog nijiniggerCalled it
>>25720700Why the fuck did the artist draw Miko? That flip-flopping bitch.
>>25720756>he used the forbidden word See you in two days
>>25720700>Kanata againWon't pass Salome
>>25720554>you really don't see good beyond the mandatory birthday shit>actually get some>it's all group merchGoalpost, huh?https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1531923544627871744https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1495611817347129344https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1473971703223304193Even Amamiya is able to get multiple personal marches. It is only determined by whether you want to push it or not.
>>25720490Why did every number go down?
Imagine lying through your teeth saying that low tier shitters are just left to die. https://twitter.com/fctokyoofficial/status/1534430047683354624?s=21
>>25720842Why can't people just accept that being in Nijisanji is just as good as Hololive, heck even better?Nijisanji gets personal merch, gets 3D, gets support and even having more eyes on them.
>>25720309LMAOIt's interesting to say the least
>>25720842Wait, if low-tier Nijisanji has personalized merch, what else does Hololive have against Nijisanji anymore?
>>25720853You are taking exception to random shitposts. With that said your example isn’t a good one? This looks a lot more like the streamer is a fan of said club and they acknowledged him
>>25718034I want to correct both of them
>>25720842>only one example>one is a group merch tie-inIf it's so easy to get personalized merch then why are all the low shitters not pushing it? maybe it's not up to them after all.
>>25720894Well faggots here constantly make up bullshit just to prove that their company is superior, on both fucking sides due to shitposters.I wonder what other bullshit these fags will get wrong
>>25720844they are forced to make the event smaller cause of COVID
>>25720687The post you were replying to was being sarcastic, retard.
The fact that the shitposter has proven to be an unironic nijisanji shill who lies like he breaths about how great the company is makes me laugh. He can pull out random twitter links to support his arguments, and even though it shows he's full of shit, it's funny because he actually tries no matter how blatantly wrong he is
>>25720842I wouldn't call the JPs you've shown there underperformers and that was the whole point of the discussion. Dunno about Yugo because I don't keep up with EN.
>>25720960>shows proof>nu-uh that doesn’t countThe absolute fucking state
>>25720844Anon…
>>25720780I think the SEAjanny is an EU migrant, he was up during EU hours to delete the posts talking about him, but right now people seem to be able to post ind_g without issue.
>>25720991Anon will string you along for centuries moving the goal post and restarting from square one for as long as you give him attention. That goes for most of the shitposters, they aren’t interested in the topic itself, only on wasting the thread time and effort
>>25720956>>25721002I thought those numbers were from last year?
>>25720936Please stop embarrassing yourselfhttps://twitter.com/narusenaru_2434/status/1531834756173660160?s=21Unrelated but man naruse is an honorary holoshart due to him collabing with them more than his fellow colleagues kek
>>25720508>>25720633
>>25721061>This post>In response to a nijishillWhat are you trying to prove and to whom?
>>25721086>honorary holoshartSo doesn't count.
>>25720946>group merch tie-inSo you don't even know Yorumi's drawing while still talking like you know Niji? Fuck, you are stubborn.https://wikiwiki.jp/nijisanji/%E3%82%B0%E3%83%83%E3%82%BA%E3%83%BB%E6%9B%B8%E7%B1%8D%E7%AD%89#nijisanji_official_storeHere is a full list of everyone that had ever released personal merch on the previous BOOTH when most of them are all low-tier by /#/ standard, including Todoroki, Momo, Masaru, Asuka, Haruka
>>25721086>birthday goodsok, now go back to where this argument started and read what was written there
>>25720612I didn't say anything about riku being saviorfag. only thing I corrected was about cutting out underperforming members, which never happened. Hajime, Gilzaren and so many exist to this day.
>>25721104That you’re an goalpost moving faggot lmao>>25720300>>25720960
>>25721104That the Nijishill is a Nijinigger and is shilling.
>>25720654The more I see this kind of thing, the more I'm convinced that she was "manufactured".You can't prepare stuff like, fan animations, MADs and fan content like this on a whim, just days after debut.Considering her lore I'm pretty sure she's a standin for that Royal Princess who recently lost her Royal privileges. Wonder if that means she's gonna be in the limelight soon.
>>25721120>full listFull list of irrelevant.
>>25721120You do realize that /#/ standards are numberrot rightThe actual audience size you need to be successful as a Vtuber is much lower than the CCV peaks this thread jerks it to
>>25721124Read my ass.
>>25721120I still wonder why anyone would join Hololive at this point.
>>25721149I like this rrat. It smells nice.
>>25720894>BetterAnon, I contest you on that point, but otherwise sure, the rest is reasonable.
>>25721120Watch the faggot post something without a reply while moving goalposts again kek
>>25721197Because they actually support their talents?
>>25719527>>25719655>>25720309Holo fanbase channel their energy into doing their reps and produce shits like this because there's a non-zero chance that the talent will acknowledge them, and that shit can polish your resume a lot
>>25721031Holy fucking indog
>>25721131>I didn't say anything about riku being saviorfagYes you did, backpedaler cuck.
>>25721084Yes. It was supposedly the first Comicket held in public after the pandemic so they were forced to make it smaller "just in case"Either way this year Comiket had already been scheduled on August, off that this time they will be back in full force and we get to see some real numberSalome might carry that Vtuber tag and overtake Idolm@ster
If even low-tier Nijisanji members get personal merch, what does Hololive have over NIjisanji that can encourage people to join?
Can you quantify a chuuba's cuteness and compare their cuteness coefficients to figure out who's superior?
>>25721031The posts that were taken down from the last thread were deleted in early morning EU hours which would have been morning SEA hours
>>25721232This is peak delusion
>>25721134>an
>>25721243Numbers unironically if we go by koyoris deleted tweet
>>25721243In Hololive their merch will actually get bought by fans, since you'll actually have them.
>>25721149I'm convinced YOU'RE manufactured.
>>25721267numbers AND being paid without workingliteral welfare project
>>25721259Hey I have reasons to believe that. Vtuber has become more and more mainstream in 1 year, that gotta count for something right?
>>25721232you need to get your head checked when FGO is starting to mog other franchises again
>>25721170Numberrot DEEZ NUTS.
>>25721243Not being harassed by management until you quit, actually having a future in the industry that isn't actively sabotaged by your company you work for, more than 2views for the average talent, being able to take breaks and come back to not have your audience totally abandon you
>>25721243The main difference is that some low-tier niji can get personalied merch. In holo everyone including low-tier talents get personalized merch.
>>25721031why don't you try using the n word or c word?probably will be deleted too
>>25721197Because you touch yourself at night.
>>25721325>being able to take breaks and come back to not have your audience totally abandon youaki,,,matuli...
>>25721312Oh yeah FGO is reaching their endgame possibly this year or 2023The stream for FGO last chapter gonna be pretty fucking huge
>>25721307No wonder Anykara is the more successful company. Cover's socialist-style management might do more harm than help.
>>25721204>liking ratsKys, zoophile.
>>25721325>Not being harassed by management So this thread is fulled of newfag that doesn't even know what had happend to Mel?
>>25721355Were never that popular to begin with. Also Festival spammed Apex but didn't make the fans her own, and L*ger filters her chat, so really she sabotaged herself and still isn't a 2view.
>>25705016wait why gura is not here? she did her minecraft stream with 22k ccv
>>25721369LolThe one who DO work offset pretty much everyone who is lazy so I say it's fair
>>25721325So that’s why council is such lazy shits huh. I guess sama is a good example of giving too much of a leeway
>>25721336Do I have to show the proof again? There are more low tier Nijisanji getting personal merch than Hololive talents.
>>25721380Mel got that guy fired tho
>>25721325kek
>>25721325This reeks of newfaggotry Jesuschrist
>>25721369I know this is bait, but we know that these companies are being carried on the back of the talents who respect the hustle.
>>25721403>Do I have to show the proof againYes, otherwise you're just pulling shit out of your ass.
>>25721403Now THIS is cope. Can you show even one Hololive member who doesn't have personal merch?
>>25721395Because anons count days in JP timezones like the filthy weaboos they are.
>>25721380retards nowadays worship Cover too much, it's like a cultJust because I shit on Cover doesn't mean I like Niji
>>25721267>koyoris deleted tweetScreencaps?
>>25721383>d-doesn't count!
>>25721477Here >>25659614I mean shouldn’t really say it that blatantly if you don’t care about numbers
>>25721401>I guess sama is a good example of giving too much of a leewayWhat?
>>25721474To be pretty fucking fair this is the only place that hate Cover and Niji so muchOutside of here no one care about company rivalry
>>25721474No, you obviously are a nijishill, otherwise you wouldn't be constantly seething about Salome's big number killing Cover
>>25721243By "Personal Merch", do you mean the bog standard 1-illustration-keychain-and-tapestry?
>>25721229I'm literally not that poster you fucking retard
>>25721530I think that anon meant sana?
>>25721474Well, because Yagoo is the fun uncle who is all smile and shit.Usually, a CEO's job is to manage a company and reign the talents, not the other way around.But it's fine since Yagoo likes to take pictures wearing his talents' merch.
>>25721530Meant to say sana, the queen of laziness
>>25721338No Ctyx
>>25721543he deflected this already, you can abandon this loop
>>25721543https://wikiwiki.jp/nijisanji/%E3%82%B0%E3%83%83%E3%82%BA%E3%83%BB%E6%9B%B8%E7%B1%8D%E7%AD%89#nijisanji_official_store
>>25705158Gura peaked at 23k ccv at that minecraft stream, ame's elden ring at 6,5k, and bae (even with such a boring stanley bucket game) still pulls out at 7,7k they are doing well anon
>>25721395Kys ESL
>>25721558Can still reach 5k on a fucking hours long baking stream without handcam.
>>25721463That's because the VTuber number tracking sites are Japanese and filter the lists by days counted there, you retard.
>>25721558I hope you fall from 3 story windows and break your back
>>25721543>it doesn’t countMy fucking sides, anon showed you proof of custom merch other than tapestry via the nijisanjis wiki.Holy shit these threads are full of inbred EOP **d*gs
>>25721586how many overlaps?
>>25721536not really old /hlg/ used to hate Cover A LOTI don't know why /hlgg/ is too soft on them
>>25705274Yeaa, it got trending in YT too
>>25721403Go ahead. Show proof that EVERY niji member has personalized merch.
>>25721612I looked. It's just a bunch of stamps.
>>25721602You can't use your brain and adjust lists based on NA timezones yourself? You guys are lazy as fuck.
>IPO opens to the public>Nijinigger keyboard warriors are ramping upgee why don't you niggers make it any less obvious.. i wonder how much you're getting paid for this
>>25721651most are part of the birthday goods sets everyone gets in their birthday. EVERY. YEAR.
Guess what the Holofunk dev did. Now Niji and Holo is evenhttps://gamejolt.com/games/lazunight/723472
>>25721669We all live in SEA hereFuck off if you don't like it
>>25721612Retard, even fucking ROF-MAO merch is like 2 illustration, and it includes keychain and tapestry
I'm still waiting on the proof that there is even a SINGLE holo who doesn't have personalized merch. This guy will take group tie in merch and call it personal merch as if anyone gives believes it
>>25721701>we
>>25721669>thinking this is a NA boardlollmao
>>25721627Going viral in ID is better since Japan's population is falling already. ID might be one of the future superpowers in the region.
I'm derailing this time loop. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQyK3iG5JEkWhat are the implications of this?
>>25721477She pretty much went>I know Salome is getting really popular, but did you know you could watch this old stream where I played getting over it?Wow what a leech, kek.
>>25721691So just like holomen's? Except niji's merch is mostly consisted of keychains and tapestriesLike, holy shit, how much keychains do you need in life? Are you THAT much of bumbling idiot that lost their key every day?
>>25721651Poor EOP, do you even know which list is the personal merch one?https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/3662616
>>25721756nigger she didn't even mention her so stfu
>>25721756meant for>>25721512
>>25721725
>>25721790Now this is fucking cope
>>25721625>/hlg/>/hlgg/What's the difference?
>>25721669>You guys are lazy as fuckand you're just bitching about it, lazy fuck.
>>25721790>Young Lady>Ojou>Linked a stream where she said desuwa the entire stream to leechTry, fucking, again
>>25721804No tagging of Salome, meaning the only people who'll actually see it are people already following her
>>25705985gura doesn't give anyshit outside of Hololive, she wouldn't care even of you spammed her. The funny thing is even with those botted numbers, salome only trended once on twitter and it only peaked at 6, guess money can't buy botted twitter trends too huh?
>>25721547>lying out of your ass
>>25721777Holy cherry-picking nijiniggerIf that's the "personalized merch" that got your breech in a bunch, just you wait until you see every hololive member merch
>>25721837See >>25721835Cope.
>>25721835Stop embarrassing yourself, Christ almighty >>25721837
>>25721586https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juvR8Wo9m3w
>>25721858>shows further proof>NO IT DOESNT COUNTmy sides
>>25721867>Cope>Linked stream where she said desuwa at the end of every sentence>C O P EAhahahaha, stay delusional then.
>>25721756Wow she really just lose all the respect I had for her? Why even bother leeching?
>>25721858>get shown proof>y-you're cherry-pickingThis loop is stupid as fuck.
>>25721722WUZ
>>25721898Retard, the argument is that most niji merch are sub-standard shit, pointing to one exception doesn't make it true
>>25706168you can't compare an EN vtubers and JP vtubers idiot, and gura streams almost everyday get your fact right
>>25721868Does Salome just own the works Ojou now? Jesus Christ, you're fucking retarded. That's not how Twitter works, people find shit through tags, Salome was not tagged so people posting about Salome or looking for information about Salome won't see the tweet. The only people who will see it are people following Koyori
>>25721750That that clipper hides their subscriber count.
>>25721934>exceptio probat regulam
>>25721929leeching ideas from nijisanji is what hololive still does to this day
>>25721946>gura streams almost everydayThis is simply not true, anon. Come on.
What's wrong with Nijisanji being at the top again? It's not like Hololive can't have the chance to turn back.
>>25721824At least bitching about it is doing more than doing nothing like you're doing, lazy fuck.
>>25721934>>25721898It literally doesn't count because it's generic common merch, not personalized merch. You can't even find a single actual example of personal merch
>>25721952>s-she’s not taggedI guess koyori deleting the tweet due to the backlash she got means nothing huh?Subtweeting has been a thing and only a brain dead faggot cannot tell who she was referring to. She would’ve kept that tweet and stream up with it wasn’t the case, dipshit
>>25721837This. She wouldn't have deleted the tweet otherwise.
>>25721952So she just HAPPENS to post a stream on twitter, on the day Salome get's 1 million views, and in that stream she ends every sentence with Desuwa?C'mon, tell me it's coincidence faggot. Show me how delusional you are.
>>25722010>personalized merchIt's fucking Amamiya's personal merch you retarded eop.
>>25721990Try again once you've beaten VSPO first
>>25721984Well, if leeching manages to help Hololive beat Nijisanji for two years, they've done a good leeching.
>>25706943source? i just saw that cover still have higher clean profit that anykara, something to note i that sheet is that anykara depend too much on high performing talents
>>25722020Meant 1 million subs, but whatever. Point still stands, it's not a fucking coincidence and she didn't even keep the tweet.
>>25722015>Privating a stream that existed BEFORE Salome is proof of leechinglmao you're retarded
>>25721838Gura trends way less.
>>25707014he's too obsessed with numbers helppp
>>25722037Like Cover doesn't promote their high-performing talents? Nijisanji is not wasting money on useless projects like Cover.
>>25722055>Privating>???????Retard, she LINKED it.
>>25706943Anon, Cover literally has 5 million burgerdollars more than Anycolor in profitIt's true that Anycolor managed to gain 3000% profit compared to last year tho
>>25721952It's about the timing of Koyori's tweet of an OLD stream, just as Salome was getting popular and reaching 1 million subscribers.Obvious-ass leeching.
How is my favourite console's war going? Who's winning?
>>25722026and she's way above 3-digit territory you mongo
>>25722026It's a fucking iPhone case
>>25722055And said stream got privated when she did that shameless leech tweet. You’re not fooling anyone faggot >>25722020
>>25721777why are all your examples amamiya?
>>25721993I don't bitch about it because there's already a reason for it >>25721602 .Think before you bitch, dumb fuck.
ITT: 4 retards timelooping while the audience watches and munches popcorn.
>>25722058Gura has reclined badly on all fronts, I don't get why anons still treat her as some sort of heavyweight and act as if her meciocre numbers are something impressive.
>>25722081exID and exKR is comparable to stars, what the fuck are you talking about?Also stars have more sponsorships than both
>>25722120Nah, in this case I think we can say Salome was leeching since she's new and Koyori did it first.
>>25707288salome and her dead viewers? just look at her chat, freezing as ever, do people really want to throw money on that lmao