/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>25672059
MIO LOVE

>>25671974
you don't get ads money based on subscribers anon
it depends mostly on vod viewers which Salome has more

So Salome number are still as expected
What are we discussing now?

GURA KILLER

Mysta's still counting at 50k increments even at 600k? Dude needs some help.

>Mito still hasn't reached 1m subs
Actually hilarious

>>25672118
What's in competition with Salome tomorrow?

>>25672118
This isn't numbers anymore - this holocope general

haachama's stream today was very fun, and I'm very surprised with her number I can't lie
I definitely thought it's be much lower, at least 10k lower, plus she had 9k on her second stream somehow too which is even more surprising

>>25672118
Isn't it obvious?

>94k
This is getting ridiculous

>>25672118
How long until she replaces Gura as the most subscribed vtuber.

>>25672159
Salome 1m celebration which is also counted for tomorrow.

Why is the numberfag thread a holobrony thread? I thought you autists would be beyond bias if you just cared about numbers

Test post

>>25672159
Salome RE vs Salome zatsudan

>>25672159
Nothing? What competes with 100k or whatever she ends up with? A 3D live or an outfit from a handful of people, or a Niji tournament.

https://youtu.be/hghY3aUT_rs
WATCH OUT CHINMAN. HERE COME THE SUPERIOR CHIN

>>25672176
t.flaseflagging tourist

>>25672183
today it's understandable, 1m buff

>>25672118
Death of Hololive.

>>25672118
kobo vs vox

>>25672159
Salome vs Salome is the new number battle

>>25672118
Salome vs Kore

>>25672240
>>25672176
If Hololive is dying then what is happening to corpo that is smaller than Hololive?

>>25672223
Gura

Considering that many holokeks already killed themselves just from Salome's success, just imagine what would happen to the rest of them at the end of this June.

>>25672118
nothing, the race is over since Salome mogging everyone.

>she's just depressed
what happened to marine?

>>25672265
HOT LESBIAN SEX

>>25672280
Hololive is dying because of fuckups other corps are growing.

>>25672300
She just miss her fans
But of course this board spread her member-only heartfelt letter everywhere and pretend like she's about to commit suicide

another 100k

Some people here are under the impression that only Holofags are against botting or viewfarms.

Mio who is usually near the bottom of the monthly SC charts just beat (in yen) Rushia's record of most SC for reaching 1 million subs
HOW?

>>25672240
Call me when the tally ends up with almost no Holos there.

another +10k subs for Salome

>>25672118
laughing at NijiEN

>>25672261
Why is this a thing in the first place? Kinda random to me.

>>25672227
I guess the cope is just in my head then, huh?

>>25672212
they are originally from /hlg/ but got kicked out because of their obnoxiousness.

>>25672361
yakuza money laundering

>>25672118
about fusing EN,ID and KR tally 25669872

100k my knees can't take this anymore

Is Salome likely to hit 110k today? Can she somehow make it higher?

>>25672361
Mio is actually beloved

Six figures breached desuwa~

>>25672370
1. EN is irrelevant.
2. There are no HoloENs there.

>>25672421
she's already at 100k

>>25672421
If she can't push it with the 1 MILLION buff then I don't know what to say

>>25672400
Don't forget TW, Mizuki beat every EN stream today except Mysta, Kronii and Baerys

Why do these tourists come into this thread every day and pretend to care about Salome's numbers?

>>25672212
Because most of the people who have good numbers are from Hololive?

>>25672436
1. cope
2. anon they're getting beaten by a fucking ID, it doesn't matter if a HoloEN is there

>100k and not even half way through
Anything that might come close to this later or are we still in the "only non Salome golds are because she didn't stream" phase?
Oh wait, her next stream is at 11 so she might take both top spots lol.

>>25672118
We can see whether or not her stream can beat the top non-VTuber streams right now.

>>25672493
anyone who comes in here is on a mental downward spiral who hates fun

>>25672508
Holo barely have any event this month. All the big Holo anni or birthday are focused on the beginning of the year

kek, Tamaki surely got herself a nice box there, with both Maimoto and Roberu benefitting, and Mea even more.

That cute boy cat got himself a good deal there

Miko WWE silver tomorrow

Nabi is returning from hiatus! in April 2023
https://twitter.com/nabi_2nd/status/1534187436460638210

Is Salome reclining? With 1M buff, I expect her to be higher than this.

>>25672521
PanicoJovemPambros... not like this...

xqc utterly BTFO...

>>25672521
It's crazy how Salome is on a whole higher tier of competition.

>>25672521
Where the FUCK does Kore get more content from? Does this dude really do the job of a detective for free?

>>25672588
What happened this time?

I doubt it will reach reach 110k. In the early stream she said that zatsudan tomorrow might as well become celebration. Thats all people need to know, tomorrow is the true celebration.
The one that here now are people that might as well watch her after knewing that.

>>25672493
Same as the ones that cared about Luxiem numbers, which are the same that cared about Kuzuha numbers, which are the same that cared about Vshojo numbers, which are the same that cared about Ibrahim numbers

>Mysta doing another countdown stream,
this guy is so fucking shameless man.

>>25672500
You are the one coping entire NijiEN is doing fine. Kobo is the first actually popular ID but that says nothing about the health of rest of Hololive.

>>25672500
She's also beating most of gen 6, ID means nothing

>>25672568
it's an re7 stream

>>25672609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD5i4pD7_zE
>【緊急生放送】怪しいゼリーを販売していた配信者、遂に逮捕
>[Emergency live broadcast] Distributor who was selling suspicious jelly finally arrested

What's Salome's sub cap--how high can she go before starting to seriously slow down? How much traction is she getting outside of JP?

I wonder which one will get in touch with TypeMoon first if it ever happen, Niji or Holo

>>25672568
KoreTube is overlapping the normies

>>25672261
>>25672374
it's just cope to distract from Salome's success
same thing with special olympics gold

>>25672679
>Distributor who was selling suspicious jelly

>>25672611
>after knewing
>knewing
OK, I nominate this one here for
>THE BIGGEST BUTCHERING OF YOUR MAJESTY'S LANGUAGE GOLD

>>25672568
The 1mil buff is just covering her weekdays debuff since that's when her numbers are lower

>>25672688
i predicted 800k and i got btfo, so i have no idea

>>25672568
The fact she's keeping 100k doing another RE7 stream is completely insane.

>>25672679
SUSPICIOUS JELLY BROS THEY FOUND US

>>25672721
Sounds like a streamer was caught dealing drugs or something.

>>25672679
Kek it's always "Emergency" for this guy

>>25672521
God I hate 3d world overpopulation.
At times I forget India, Brazil and alike are the bulk of youtube.

>>25672700
>Fate
>Collabing off brand
heh, it would be a first, no?

>>25672688
>How much traction is she getting outside of JP?
She's doing a "learning english" stream soon, surely that'll bait global audience

>>25672733
Yes, totally natural.

>>25672640
>NijiEN is doing fine
>has a hard time beating a fucking MK8 stream that was streaming during overlap hours

>>25672733
Lol it's to be expected
Only newfag get surprised with her number at this point

>>25672688
Around 120k

>>25672374
>Why is this a thing in the first place? Kinda random to me.
People sticking to the Vox shitposters by outshitposting them

>>25672784
>muh bots

Dude it's been two weeks this cope is getting unhealthy.

>>25672374
-holo niji rivalry
-both in the 1M Race
-she is the only aside of gura who mogges luxien
-kobo don't has real competition in ID tally
-every one here hate luxiem
-an ID vs EN it's hilarius

>>25672688
She might get more attention from outside the VTuber circles for getting 1 million subscribers that fast, especially if she maintains her momentum even afterwards.

>>25672798
i said sub, not viewer

>>25672769
>"If it ever happen"
Also I have reason to think so
Nasu did mention Vtuber in one of the recent interview. That's mean he have heard of a Vtuber, now I wonder which one he heard of

>>25672825
Dude. It's fucking RE 7. Stop fooling yourself

>>25672796
>beating

Nobody cares this is not a competition. They are all doing good and growing. Recent drama even boosted Reimu who was the only real flop in the branch.

>>25672852
I was talking about subs, but got a brain fart with 120万 - 120k

>>25672656
Gen6 underperforming is nothing new

>>25672857
She's entertaining. It doesn't matter what she does, people will watch en masse

I wish we have transfer in the vtubing industry so that Cover could buy Salome and Pomu

>>25672492
How new are you?

>>25672854
>now I wonder which one he heard of
Given the amount of Fate artists doing Holo stuff...

>>25672845
>An ID reaching EN level
Wait this is actually quite impressive when you word it like that. Damn now I know why certain people admire her

102k as expected thanks to the 1M buff, enjoy it while you can Salome, you'll be another irrelevant Niji by this time next month, a one hit wonder

>>25672892
>Nobody cares this is not a competition
...where do you think we are?

>>25672904
this isn't divegrass

5/29 Nijisanji streams over 100k have been Salome playing Obaio

>>25672908
I like Towa

>>25672930
You don't need to grudgepost yourself, no one cares.

>>25672446
>1 million buff
But she's just streaming RE7 part 9. I wonder if she is going to make a celebration stream.

>>25672933
In a den of complete retards yes. But in real world it's not a competition.

>>25672918
Wasted potential
2 most popular Fate artist get the 2 laziest Council

>>25672982
I know fate is doing a lot of money but it fits - lazy hack and a lazy chuuba

>>25672930
She will get new outfit next month, and 3D debut the month after that, and concert, and idol music and...it will be forever next month for you kek

>>25672733
and after that they go to sleep. In a few hours is the IPO and the shares will be high as expected. Zatzudan and then is over. She can playing anything she want like MMO FFXIV

>>25672350
I mean she says it outright that she's hella depressed

>>25672904
Why the fuck would they transfer? Especially Pomu. She wouldn't be allowed to do 3/4 of her streams in HoloEN.

>>25672973
Celebration stream is tomorrow

>>25672973
Bro people tuning in just to see if she will say anything about that. Her whole identity is being 1 million and everyone know she just hit it
Don't kid yourself

>>25672973
Her planned zatsudan (next stream) is replaced by celebration stream

>>25672904
>>25672954
Divegrass gets several hundred thousand to over a million viewers regularly. Maybe having VTubers that are more like it could be a boost in numbers.

>>25672973
Isn't that tomorrow since that's her zatsu stream?

>>25672493
>>25672622
I see, meaning people who actually care about numbers and not having a holofag circle jerk?
I don't know why you faggots spend so much crying about people making fun of you when you brought this upon yourselves by only acting like Hololive numbers cared, even when that wasn't the case.
Luxiem was bad enough, buy Salome really just killed the people that "totally cared" Hololive numbers and used that to shit up the board.

TL;DR: You don't get to cry wolf, faggot.

>>25672930
>>25673031
Don't forget collabs, the interactions would make the stream more interesting, as well as spread her presence across Niji's fanbases.

>>25673035
Her throat is probably beyond saving but she doesn't want to graduate just yet and now don't know what to do
If she gonna do that I don't think Pekora would bother staying as well so expect double graduation from them

>>25672903
>She's entertaining
only delusionals think that see1 hour game stream is entertaining. holy you are pathetic.

>>25672845
>don't has

>>25672904
Or you could just watch who you want without being a tribalfagging retard. Yes, I know what thread I'm in right now.

>>25672930
>you'll be another irrevelant niji next stream
>you'll be another irrevelant niji next week
>>you are here
>you'll be another irrevelant niji next month
>you'll be another irrevelant niji next year
>you'll be another irrevelant niji next eon

>>25672854
Rin Toesucker pleases old men for money O HO HO HO HO HO~

i'm not reading this thread nor the last one, just came here to point out that holojp is really underperforming today outside of events, and considering how their graphs usually behave, it might be a bad couple of weeks

so why is fine to compare an EN to and ID but not and EN to a JP

>>25672971
Seethe more nijinigger, riding on meme and trend have never work in the long term

>>25672904
Be careful what you wish for, Niji will end up buying all the big VSPOs

>>25672983
>saying nobody cares
>then moving the goalposts

she broke the minds of all holofags..

>>25672716
No, what I meant was who started the trend of Kobo vs Vox? Usually with picture related, but I don't have the exact picture.

>>25672918
>>25672982
God I hope Cover stop commissioning Fate artist if it just going to end up at the hands of these lazy bitch, literally wasting a buff

>>25673122
Before you Salomefag get uppity that interview was months before Salome even exist

>>25673097
my headcanon is that she will recline if she collab with any male

>>25673082
>cared
Misspoke, I meant mattered.

>>25673037
yeah Selen would be better since holoEN doesn't have a dedicated gamer who streams a lot

>>25673174
I have that copypasta ready at any time
>Be Cover employee
>"We need someone else to design the next Holo gen"
>"Got it boss"
>Open https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Illustrator_List
>Pick a random name
>Get paid

>>25673132
Are you retarded or what? Tell me which EN chuuba that can mogs any 'top' JP

>>25672240
>>25672280
>>25672292
>>25672344

>>25673132
Everyone is a hypocrite when it suits them. That's basically this board's entire philosophy.

>105k

This is unreal.

>>25672983
There already people outside of vt that fighting cus of Salome beating gura recond bro, the real world ain't so different

>>25673165
it's a reaction against voxsisters shitposts

Maybe now Gura won't by held to such a high standard.

>>25673165
just some fucking retards who usually use this picture when kobo is compared to an EN holo, it's pure cope about the fact that holoEN is an even bigger failure than nijiEN because at the end of the day, nijis bring money

>>25673132
ENfags don't like when they are completely mogged

Am I the only person here that's just totally fucking bored with all discussion this place generates these days? Feels like there's been nothing worthwhile in the past 10 threads

>>25673210
Selen would never transfer. She would not be allowed to do 90% of her collabs. And she would be stuck with a bunch of girls terrible at games.

>>25673242
Unreal my ass, we have seen her reach 130k with the same game
This is expected

>>25673100
pekomari aren't that close, they're business friends
they've collabbed a lot because the reception to the product they can make together is good, not because they have an especially strong personal relationship
I say this as a big pekomari fan that has made high-effort translated clips of their stuff

in any case pekora won't retire just because marine does, and vice versa although marine would probably be more strongly affected by pekora retiring than the reverse

>>25672730
why would you predict anything below her gimmick?

>>25673146
>riding on meme and trend have never work in the long term
Only works for Gura because she is worldwide, but not for fake bitches with ghost audience with the "Went to sleep" excuse

>>25673228
no, I'm saying that if you want to pit kobo on vox and say that she keeps mogging him, I say it's just as fair to say that salome has -4 million subs- gura in her pocket
and it's hypocritical to say otherwise

>>25673288
you were just blinded to it before, there was nothing worthwile about the discussion happening here during the month niji got 2 golds, and there has never been

>>25673101
It's her ojou-sama personality/speech and contrasting rude language, plus comedic timing. She's like an anime character instead of just a streamer, so that makes her very interesting.

>>25673165
Indogs are tribal as fuck and hate Niji for pulling the plug on Niji ID, they're also obsessed the Chinese because they own all the businesses there, and Kobo is just buffed enough to regularly beat Vox but not the high tier of JP on either side

>>25673230
>3x less streamers
>average per streamer is higher

Whoa incredible!

>>25673097
Interaction with who? Males? Or what, the other irrelevant niji female? There's no one as the same tier as her unlike Hololive

>>25673288
You're expecting too much from copium huffing holobroni

>>25673308
Anon, you are replying to one schizo...

>>25673271
this is why they think using kobo against vox is a viable deflection tactic kek

>>25673132
people compare ENs to JPs all the time fag

>>25673308
pakora isnt close with anyone except jun

Salome ruined vtubing. We would be talking about Kuzuha's 39k playing Rust if weren't for her daily 100k streams

holobros? is this the end of /#/?

>>25673144
Niji almost collabs more with VSPO than VSPO collab with themselves so they might as well.

>>25673360
Maybe don't release a new wave every week.

>>25673288
Shitposters just decided that this is the tribalism and bait general, I don't think it'll ever recover
It's a shame since there used to be some actual interesting (and supremely autistic) posts about general vtuber trends and things like CCVID here

Timecheck. 9 hours before you can buy a part of Anycolor

>>25673165
Both channels growing fast in subscriber count at the same time, so it makes for an actual subscriber race.

>>25673342
No, I feel like there used to actually be something worthwhile here. We used to actually be able to talk about numbers, but these days it's just an endless deluge of 'cope, seethe, mald, cope, seethe'

>>25673401
if Kuzuha wanted to be talked about he should get 100k too, it's clearly possible if Salome can do it

>>25672954
Would Fifa be a buffgame for chuubas?

>>25672904
>Pomu
lol no

>>25673227
God I hope they didn't touch Takeuchi or I'm going to kill the nearest person

>>25673420
Why? They are all doing good. Top Hololive members may get better numbers but look at lower performing Holos.

>>25673230
Is NijiEN really bigger than JP? I found that median peak to be astonishingly low if you include Salome numbers...

why won't jp tubers raid each other?

>>25673316
in my defense the prediction was made when she does her 3rd stream. i said she's gonna get 1 mil but gonna slow down at 800k

>>25673288
There isn't that much, there's just a NPC schizo larping in these threads baiting and samefagging, actually got caught pretending to be others even, most likely with multiple devices as well

>>25673288
Then just FUCKING LEAVE, Lmao.

>>25673444
salome has 105,000 concurrent viewers at this moment right now

this is the world we live in now

Salome > all holo stream rn
Niji box is way superior

>>25673469
Salome is actually irrelevant. If you've been fooled into thinking she matters, you need to stop posting in numbers and actually watch streams, this place has rotted your brain

>>25673360
Significantly higher.
Maybe Niji should stop releasing so much garbage.

>>25673461
The lowest performing JP holo has almost the double median than NijiJP average

>>25673455
Takeuchi doesn't even draw his own art, he only design characters

>>25672904
The only NijiEN girl maybe interested in switching would be Rosemi. Nobody else is going to jump into a corp that won't ever allow them to collab with indies and males or do risky streams.

>>25673490
>Shits in your house
>"Just leave if you don't like it lol"
die

>>25673429
It would be very funny if her CCV just instantly dropped like 80% after it

>>25673469
Anon... Do you know how a median works?

>>25673455
Get ready for your new Saberface chuuba.

>>25673518
>box
kek

>>25673518
>box
lol
lmao

# is dead thanks to salome kek

>>25673444
Don't forget the dilate.

>>25673557
You did this to yourself, holobrony. Don't blame anyone else you fucking faggot.

ohoho status?

>>25673423
>>25673288
you can be the change you want to see in the world
crunch some numbers, make some tables, make some graphs, do some statistics
go study something and bring it back to the thread and show us

>>25673461
>>25673469

>>25673616
105K rn

>>25673557
>Shits in your dumpsterfire
>"Just leave if you don't like it lol"
ftfy

># speculate numbers
>nooooooo you cant do that provide proof coooooopeee you cant speculate
>enter loop
strange times why interns want to prevent us from speculating.
seek help

>>25673599
>keeps shitting the house
>"your fault lol"

>>25673581
There already is one.

>>25673455
It doesn't have to be Takeuchi
>BLACK
>Simosi
>Azusa
>Hiroyama Hiroshi
>Hidari
>Matsuryuu
Even NOCO art is pretty good too. TypeMoon have a fuck ton of artists affiliated with them

>Gets views
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Gets VODs numbers
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Gets subs
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Gets SCs
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Trends on Twitter
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Gets shit ton of clips
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Tops Google trend searches
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>Gets outrageous amount of fanart and #1 on pixiv
>It's da botsss!!!!!
>A nip made her 3D model hours after she tweeted her character sheet
>It's da botsss!!!!!

Holobronies and their blinders man

>>25673475
they do it via tweeter

>already 5k subs into 2M desuwa

>>25673305
>This is expected
part 9 of a series beating the same chuubas debut is not fucking expected. its an abnormality

These falseflaggers are the worst. The bait isn't even good.

So people here jerk to numbers only if it's holonumbers? You would have thought numberfaggots would coom to Salome's numbers but every thread since her debut has been shit

>>25673672
Unironically what the fuck is this product? This is the first time I see it
What is the purpose?

>>25673288
one of these days we're going to have to split off this place into a more serious numberfagging general

>>25673700
Nah, KING and chinman's numbers were great.

107k

>>25673700
It was never about the numbers anon...

>>25673657
This is Salome's house, not yours you retarded numberfaggot.
What's funny is that not even other holobroines lament the death of you shit general.

>6) 30,450: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) [神域リーグ] *(Mythic Heroes League?)

*Is this right? WTF is it? Google just turns up a bunch of chinese scams.

>>25673700
>So people here jerk to numbers only if it's holonumbers?
anyone that "just likes big numbers" is actually in the fucking spectrum and is near train autists

>>25673560
Wait, I'm actually having a brain fart. I confused average and medium. Yeah okay the list make more sense now.

107k. She might actually make it to 110k now.

I counted, I don't think Mysta is going to get 650k without pouring hours into it.

Look at this schizo go, this timeslot used to thrive but it's just dead with baits and him replying to himself over and over, might've invited some of his friends even

>>25673680
That's 50k. Also she's going up again so 110k might actually be possible.

>>25673700
Because there's nothing to discuss about Salome beside "Yeah she get 100k again and is mogging anyone"
Say what you want but we don't actually want to see a chuuba doing well, we want to see the top chuuba being mogged

>>25673719
>we
ARE NEVER EVER EVER
GETTING BACK TOGETHER

>>25673700
Like anon said before, this thread happened because /hlg/ numberfags were so annoying they were kicked from their general. Niji/indie numberfags came later.

>>25673747
It's a Mahjong tournament

>>25673769
108K now

>>25673594
And that's a good thing

>>25673717
I’m guessing it’s a life-hacky productivity tool. “Eliminate distractions with Literal Horse Blinders”

>all people really wanted was just a retarded girl shit at games

>>25673700
holo good
niji bad

that's the motto of this board since its inception

>>25673747
he was hosting a mahjong tournament with a mix of chuubas and professional players on it

>>25673700
Numberfags were born from the 2020 hololive boom and grew up with reddit reviews, it's no surprise that most of them are like that.

>>25673691
It's the same images every time. The same buzzwords every time. It's the same posts every fucking time.

It's boring, because it's the same shit every thread, on repeat. I'm fine with shitposting, but get new material already please.

>>25673844
there's like a million of those, stop being stupid

>>25673844
When you look at the biggest twitch streamers it really should have been obvious all along

>>25673745
>This is Salome's house
this is not a corporate subreddit you retard nijinigger

>>25673594
Well I guess that mean number schizo can stop clinging to my oshi
They can fight each other up there while I'm down here enjoying my oshi

IF her numbers are accurate isnt she one of the biggest streamers in the world?
And the biggest deal in the chuuba world since Gura's ascent?

>>25673747
Tsukasa+pros running a mahjong soul league. Why did you even google translate it instead of just using the text you copy pasted?

https://twitter.com/shiniki_league

>>25673844
if that was the case then several other chuubas would have exploded long ago.

>>25673778
Good, this place was a holoJP circlejerk anyway, it's great to see it getting drowned in shit.

>>25673843

Hololive is the Marvel/Twilight/Star Wars of vtubing. Crap for lowest common denominator.

btw anons, do premieres go into the calculations of monthly medians and averages and whatnot?

Is it possible KoreTube is funneling to Salome? Is there a way to see whether they are or not?

>>25673844
Half of JP vtubers fit this description so I don't think so.

>>25673897
>he says, lamenting the death of this being holofag circle jerk general

>>25673902
>One of the
She IS the biggest. It used to be XQC but not anymore

>>25673844
>aka how hololive became popular in the first place

>>25673902
If her numbers are accurate then yes, she would be. And to be fair, it's been two weeks now. If they were botting, Susan would've cracked down on it by now. I've accepted that the numbers are real. Sometimes the stars align just right and weird Lovecraftian shit like this just happens.

>>25673933
Historically they did not because nowhere actually recorded premiere numbers
vrabi now does, but opinion seems to be divided on whether they should be counted even though >we have data now, because ???

>>25673719
Shitposter will follow regardless. Numbers generate dick measuring contests, which dicks like. I just wish most of the bait would be taken to the catalog in a bait thread. But I suspect most of the crap is the seething 2 view or butthurt Yagoo schizo shitting on this thread specifically because their numbers dont measure up

>>25673902
you realize that and then people act surprised when bullshit is called? like people are just supposed to accept this

>>25673745
>>25673960
>the niji general unironically raids this place
holy kek

>>25673966

Or Ai. We are going back to the roots.

>>25673996
the sheer size of these numbers should ramificate into something though, like it should be getting more coverage than it's actually getting outside of the usual vtuber circles

>>25673776
it's just sad seeing girls in the branch regularly trying something new while the men do this shit

>>25673902
>IF
thats the catch anon

>>25674001
I understand not counting them in the tallies maybe but in actual data that we use? especially now that they can be tracked? it's not really different from a stream

>>25673966
>>25674038
People find autistic shit entertaining. Look back at Pewdiepie, or even Nigahiga from way before him.

>>25673776
kek, would that be the second time a Luxiem fails to beat a subs goal?

Even admitting to shitting up the thread, kinda sad anon

>>25674038
As it should be
Nothing beat premade video. I go back to watch old Pewdiepie video and the quality still stand, they still make me laugh my ass off

>>25673844
That's literally the most common type of vtuber. You can count the number of them that are either smart or good at games on one hand.

>>25674038
I don't think she played games back then.

>>25674055
>like it should be getting more coverage than it's actually getting outside of the usual vtuber circles
Most JP news site reported on her, she's a JP only phenomenon for now

Just a few more and we can make fun of Salome's CVV not reaching 10% of her subscriptions!

>>25674095
I don't see why they should be excluded from tallies either if there's now a reliable source of data
If anyone disagrees I would ask them what the difference is between a premiere and some intern at Cover hitting play on a prerecorded 3D live

>>25674055
Who cares. You'll never find answers because the shitposter will just scream MOGGED COPE SEETHE at you for 24 hours until you just stop thinking about it and ignore her entirely. She can be the biggest streamer in the world and her fans the most obnoxious, and all it will mean is that this thread is full of insufferable faggots

>>25674095
>especially now that they can be tracked?
But it can't, the only site carrying premieres is still vrabi, and they don't carry many of the streamers carried by vstats and live-ranking.

>>25674055
>>25674150
Youtube Japan themselves literally reply to her Tweet
Is that enough proof for you?

It's bots, she's not that popular

>>25673996
>>25674008
>>25673965
>Nijinnergers: bark bark bark
>Fake bitch end the stream
>Nijinnigers: bark bark " they went to sleep bark bark
everytime

>>25674149
She did play games but they were in edited video format, not streams.

>>25673786
Yeah there's not really anything to say. If no one can step up to compete with Salome she will default the gold on every day she streams. We live for the horse race and now there isn't one. Same with subscribers, she's gonna be the second JP to hit 2 million, 3 million, first JP to hit 4 million etc. but she's just doing normal game streams while in character. It's the numbers without the hype, I wish there was something more to it.

>>25673700
Because her numbers don't make any sense.
Where did all of these people suddenly come from immediately on her debut that weren't watching vtubers before and only watch her?
How did they even find out about her that fast and if she is so good that she's able to get so many new people to check her out why aren't more Niji fans watching her?
Why are these people many times more likely to sub than anyone else in Japan after watching her once?
How does she consistently have so many new chatters for a part x stream? Where did the previous viewers go? She's only 2 weeks old so everybody that subbed should still have some interest.

>>25674215
Well the Niji fan itt is certainly hype for it
That should count for something right?

>>25674185
That doesn't matter for tallies though, being on fewer sites is only ever a disadvantage since the tallies take the highest number shown on any reputable source

>>25673700
Why do you keep spamming off cooldown?

>>25674285
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>25674150
So is new sex toy on JP only until she isn't in a few days after ipo cool then

>>25674185
yeah good point, holo_data uses vstats and not vrabi right?

>>25673769
Sorry Salome, 110k is for big kids only.

>>25674266
There aren't nijifans here, just shitposters larping as nijifans because thats what they think would be the most annoying. They also larp as holofans, because we don't actually give enough of a shit to argue with fake nijifans so they have to samefag and argue with themselves to shit the thread up more.

>>25674312
I only touch myself at day and in the balcony so others can see me

Waitttttt
I just remember Hololive was supposed to have their own doujin event or something right?
It was announced a few months ago and gonna happen on June

>>25674105
>kek, would that be the second time a Luxiem fails to beat a subs goal?
Third time actually.
That got me thinking, has there ever been a gen with more numberfags than Luxiem?

>>25674227
Counterpoint. Youtube and Twitter would've cracked down on bots and purged them by now if it really is bots. It's been two weeks. Numbers like hers is bound to turn a few heads over at Susan's and if they were botting, the numbers would've been purged by now. Seeing how this hasn't happened, it does lend credence to the idea that this is all genuine.

>>25674272
It's not "being on fewer sites" but "not being in any site"

>>25674377
Luxium debuted with the numberfag playbook written on the back of their hands and they've played it straight to a fucking T

>>25674326
>holo_data uses vstats
heh, anon...
>@holo_data **is** vstats

>>25674326
Vstats IS Holo_Data.
They're run by the same person. They just turned their data collection tools into something people can access on a site.

>>25673635
1 Marine + 1 Pekora + 1 Miko = 1 Salome

>>25674391
I try saying that since the first few day but no one listen. If it truly were bot, especially on a 6-digit scale like this, Youtube AI would immediately chop it down
I mean it's an AI that axe even real living human account as long as they feel like the account is a bit sus

I haven't even looked at Salome because I don't like RE 7.

>>25673717
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>As open offices and digital nomads are on the rise, workers are finding it ever more important to have personal space where they can focus. WEAR SPACE instantly creates this kind of personal space – it’s as simple as putting on an article of clothing. The device can be adjusted based on the level of concentration you desire, so it adapts to the various situations you’ll find yourself in.
Around 250$ each

>>25673700

I only peek in here now and then but I can sort of understand why it's so shit; pre-salome, it was sort of like horse races/sports teams from what I could see, a lot of the "fun" looked like it was cheering for your team or whatever

Now it's just a clear winner so far ahead of everyone else that the entire purpose of this thread is gone

Either that or they just hate anyone non holo lmao idk im not interested enough to think it beyond this

>>25674373
https://holo.ketto.com/ 5th Holoket
https://nijisanji.familiar-life.info/ 6th Nijisousaku

>>25673898
Same here anon

Quite a sad state for the thread and how they act, instead of celebrating their 1M and being joyous about it most especially that she's streaming now, they're just shitting here, they never cared about her

Okay it's been like this since her nonchalant announcement of Rushia's graduation, my theory is an anti chink has terminated her and is now using the Fubuki model with an advanced chink voice changer to destroy Hololive from the inside.
>Collabs with males all the time
>Went from buff Pokemon games to irrelevant FF14
>Keep shilling botted chuuba from Hololive's main rival
The real Fubuki is a very smart fox friend and would never do retarded shit like that

>>25674400
They're on vrabi now anon
https://vrabi.net/video/20KL1ITIg5A

>>25674506
>Human are literally looking for way to limit their vision now
Damn

>>25674450
>>25674441
s-sugoi...
sad though, a 37k 1 hour stream gone to dust because of haachama's autism...oh well, I can't believe I'm saying this but reaching those numbers doesn't seem impossible to her anymore, at least not in collabs so I'm sure there'll be others

Kobo facing the last boss

>>25674506
It's a cool novelty product for 10-20$ top. Who the fuck pays 250$ to look like an idiot in public

>>25674504
Exactly. Susan is infamous for breathing down the necks of any suspicious account. Sometimes the actual viewership isn't even reflected in the CCV because Susan apparently thinks actual living humans are bots. With how sensitive Youtube's AI is, 6 digit numbers like hers cannot go unnoticed for two weeks if she's botting. It's really leaning in the direction of being genuine.

If it were easy to create massive popular Vtubers with bots, the world would be full of 3million+ subs Vtubers by now.

>>25673700
Timeloop but its because Salome numbers dont make sense. If it had dropped after the debut to maybe 60k and slowly rose up in the following streams then reached a massive height by the end of the RE7, I would have no question. She followed a predictable vtuber and streaming pattern but larger than anything that’s been seen before. I would be cooming. But what we’re seeing is such an anomaly that I honestly cant enjoy it. It’s like finally having the chance for sex with an attractive woman but since I’m an ugly, suspicious, incel retard there must be a goddamn catch like its a fucking trap. And its deflating my numberboner

Looks like Rust is gaining popularity in Japan, will Holo and Niji play this game?

>>25674530
lmao, this is a holobronies circlejerk from the get go, niji and other indies must die so holo can thrive is this thread motto

>>25674373
these events happen all the time, holokuru3 was in april

>>25674377
I think Ike's the only one who doesn't do that shit and he still makes more money than Mysta who landed the unfortunate audience of "underage SEAfriends"

>>25674621
Well once again, Twitch content recycled
I feel like you can predict Vtuber meta by watching Twitch lol

>>25674504
Everyone who has been denying Salome's numbers are either shitposting, in denial, or dumb. The only argument is pretty much "It's weird, so there must be something wrong / illegal there", which is dumb AF

>>25674520
>>25674530
It's just shitposters. This started and the vox stuff stopped.

>>25674588
Apple and Tesla fans, naturally.

>>25674625
So like Reitaisai but for Holo then
Wew

>>25674559
You are missing my point. vrabi has *some* channels (and their premieres) but lack other channels that are only on vstats and live-ranking, whose premieres would go untracked.

>>25674557
She also shilled the NijiEN brapfish so maybe you are on to something..

>>25674653
Well I didn't see any Darkest Dungeon meta so it sucks.

>>25674608
I mean it made Miko getting 98k on a solo gaming stream look like a failure
that number is absurd and the salome situation made it much more difficult to appreciate since it didn't even gold

>>25674656
>"It's weird, so there must be something wrong / illegal there", which is dumb AF
sure dude, the natural reaction to unlikely events is dumb

>>25674588
the same kind of people who buy shit like "meditation eggs" on kickstarter

>>25674520
The only people who take it too seriously are people who only watch ENtubers. HoloJP / NijiJP watchers usually behave themselves.

>>25674621
Didn't some Niji had a full tournament with some celebs even?

>>25674227
This is why is strange. With Gura was ovbious, She is Worldwide and JP didn't undestand at all how wide was the wordlwide audience at all. But for Salami everything around her is weird and unrealistic. I don't believe the new audience excuse who disappear everytime after 1 hour. Now in a few hours is the IPO. after that probably she can take it easy without the pressure of Anycolor behind her back. so i don't expect high numbers after a few more times. Her subs buff for 1 millions is ovbious but Is getting lower and lower. She will stuck around 1.2million and1.5 million until stop growing with 1.6 million the almost max. But don't expect something big as Gura again this just JP only forcing trendings not Worldwide at all.

>>25674718
Was Darkest Dungeon even popular among Twitch streamers back then? I only remember Forsen and Sodapoppin playing it

>>25673518
>niji box
roru roru rumao
kekku kekku
70% of her viewers don't even know what's nijisanji

>>25674557
Nice try falseflagger zhang

>>25674710
oh, that's unfortunate then
still, it feels pretty stupid to discount haachama on the podium when everyone can see the number and knows it's real

I just hope Salome's new viewers filter through to the rest of the vtubing community over time
the entire subculture might get a boost out of the new blood

>>25674557
it's over

is it me or vrabi isn't working?
https://vrabi.net/progress/2022-06-08/01

>>25673907
It was my fault for trying to do basic search reps. Next I'll just leave it blank.

>>25673700
It was always holobrony tribalism.
Salome showed this shithole's true colors.
Although Luxiem already did that, by making this general seethe every time they got karaoke, cooking an off-collab numbers.
Also the amount of Kobonigger wanking in here already tells which shithole is the one infesting these threads.

>>25674505
She has a Euro Truck Simulator and a GTA 5 stream. Both are only about an hour long, so it should be easy to go through them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHeccTvGu2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TcFpFBuICQ
She also has an English study stream scheduled soon, so you might wanna check that one out.

>>25674656
>Shitposting, in denial, or dumb
Sure dude like when luxiem doing mountains every excuse of you faggots were buffering and wifi disconnection, pretty normal with mysta and Vox. Nothing strange at all

>>25674391
Youtube has proven themself to be extremely incompetent when it comes to purging bots.
Their idiotic algorithm constantly purges real viewers and subscribers.
It's pretty likely that however they're boosting her isn't triggering the algorithm.
She's got a brand new account so Youtube has nothing prior to go off of to red flag and they clearly don't red flag debut numbers otherwise many vtubers would have been purged.
Salome does have a large number of real people watching so whatever they're using has a lot more camouflage.

We can accept it when King or Chinman win because they fought for their Golds fair and square. They earned that shit with dedication and hard work. You can respect their numbers.

Salome is so fucking shallow. There's no sense that she struggled to achieve this result. It barely feels like she's trying. She's just playing RE 7, and she's the most popular streamer in the world because of it.

She streams once a day for an hour a day, just playing a video game badly. I can't even enjoy the stream on its own. You sometimes get people with severe numberrot here, acting like retards and saying shit like 'I can't enjoy my oshi's streams anymore because I noticed her number was low', but that shit has never been a problem for me.

No, right now, Salome is ruining numberfagging for me because her streams aren't even fun, so there's nothing to get excited about when the number climbs into the sky. It just feels like an in joke I don't understand, except I was there from the beginning and I know there's nothing to laugh about.

>>25674227
>Because her numbers don't make any sense
According to you
>Where did all of these people suddenly come from
Earth
>How did they even find out about her
Internet
>Why are these people many times more likely to sub than anyone else
She's fun
>How does she consistently have so many new chatters for a part x stream?
She's fun

>>25674777
It had a surge few months ago, I went to the twitch tag and there were a lot of indies playing it. Figures that kind of genre was never going to be really popular, oh well.

Kobo 18k again

>>25674874
>unironically shilling the unavoidable bitch
fuck off

>>25674391
>>25674504
Either samefagging or you both have terrible English

So tribalfags are running out of ammo to shitpost
>But Holocope...
Kuzuha tribalfags were more consistent than Salami's one.
There was a time Kuzuha mogged Hololive everyday with just Apex and the numberfaggotry was still on compared to now...
The thing is Salami's phenomen is only on JP, Kuzuha at least had also SEA fags but Salami's tribalfags around here were just butthurt anti holofags who saw Salami as a chance to shit on Hololive but now that is confirmed her growth ain't boosting anyone else from Nijisanji they just got tired and only one or two schizos are left.
Who would had thought...big numbers killed the /#/ thread.

>>25674896
Wouldn't a new account suddenly getting 1M+ subs in under a month also trigger the algorithm by this logic? It's incredibly suspicious no matter how you slice it. Imagine making a brand new account and getting 1M+ subs in record time, beating out literally every Vtuber in existence right now. I'll bet that would cause Youtube to look into potential foul play going on. We'll have to wait and see for a few more days or weeks but I'm confident it's genuine. If literally no purge has happened until now, it likely won't be happening.

>>25674884
You said for months that weird graphs = bots, and now comes a girl with perfectly normal graphs and apparently it's still bots?

>>25674919
last boss

>>25674896
youtube has killed actual viewers but all the known botted streams have all been detected by youtube.

>>25674899
>she's the most popular streamer in the world because of it.
not she isn't

>>25674938
What? That poster was saying the only reason he hasn't watched Salome was because he didn't like the game, so I posted her streams where she played something different so he might check them out.

I'm wondering if other companies can pull off their own Salome with the meme -> goes viral -> huge audience loop.

>>25674191
>Youtube Japan
>Japan

>>25675026
JHREAM

>>25674911
>bark bark bark
thats you

>>25674874
shilling a 100k chuba
eternal faggot

>>25674192
>Dominating Twitter, Pixiv and Google seach and even vtubers wiki
Cope

>>25674530
Anon, this thread has always been hlgg outcast refuge thread. And you need to remember hlgg are outcast from hlg. This is thread by outcasted member of the outcast.

>>25675026
>Posting a actual cheater in response to a theorized cheater
can't make this shit up

>>25675037
if he posts in this thread, he knows about the other streams
stop being disingenous

>>25675013
not really, if Niji is an MCN, then they can let Youtube know ahead of time, so it won't purge. Thats probably why Kobo hasn't had any major purges.

>>25674739
Getting 98k on a stream only looks like a failure if you have some kind of absurd number fetish that's rotted your brain beyond repair, what on earth are you talking about

>>25675026
MrBeast gets way bigger numbers than Dream, though. Although he doesn't stream as much, his CCV peaks are always a lot higher.

>>25675013
Of course unless Riku pay Youtibe JP to let Salami go for a few week only like nothing happen

>>25674899
>because they fought for their Golds fair and square. They earned that shit with dedication and hard work.

you mean 'they were never competitive enough with holo to actually bother me in some way' and now that there is someone that does you are seething about it

>hololive

>>25675104
He might just be one of the anons that only take short peeks at this thread once in a while.

>>25675026
He got popular through creative video editing with click baits and cheating in speedruns, as well as his scripted speedrunner vs friends. He didn't just appear and get millions of subs and views

>>25675141
Literally the Nijisanji of Youtuber
All in on big stunt and big collab event. If there's anyone who gonna lauch a spaceship into space for just 1 video, it's him

>>25675082
What?

>>25675089
Bitch, I was answering someone who was possibly interested in her, but was avoiding her only because he didn't like the game she was playing.

>>25675181
The controversy surrounding Coke Classic was pretty insane. Also a testament to how stupid American was

>>25674899
It sounds stupid but there's some truth to this. Salome is doing so well, so effortlessly, that it makes the entire vtubing scene look lame by comparison. Her actual stream content is not exceptional, so she's doing something else right that the entire industry has been blind to this whole time. The numbers could've been bigger but we were all idiots.

>>25674874
>English study
>When westoids are on wage slaving hours
So either SEA or JP will show up
I remember some Nijis' english study streams' chat was mostly japanese

>>25675184
i refuse to believe that anyone would unironically try to shill fucking salami on the numbers thread

stfu you thunderniggers. post Mio lewds

>>25675209
What?

>>25675037
>so I posted her streams where she played something different
Yes, 1 eurotruck simulator stream and then back to RE7 #XX

>kobo is singing there zombies on your lawn in indonesian
cute

>>25675160
I feel like we're on some Illuminati conspiracy theorist shit right now. This is a whole new level of paranoia and overthinking. If it were that easy to bribe Youtube, Cover and Vshojo would've done the same too. They're both just as wealthy as Anycolor and can easily afford to do it for their talents. This is a rabbit hole that leads to conspiracy theories like secret Anycolor sex trafficking rings and satanic rituals with the Youtube elite and what not. Is it really that hard to believe that a miracle could happen?

>>25675248
She did nothing beside actually capitalized on the debut buff and commit to the character

>>25675171
>100k streams every time from the moment you fucking debut is the first time you can compete fairly
Kuzuha won Golds, he won a lot of Golds. You can't take that shit away from him with this downplaying shit. He deserved those Golds, he earned them with years of grinding.

All of it is useless in front of Salome. None of that hard work matters at all, you don't need to try to be the best. You can just start there with no effort, no struggle or challenge.

Funny how discordfags are having a field day in the catalog but this thread is stuck seething at the ojou. Tribalism stronk.

>>25674227
>>25674391
one company is canceled in china the other company is not
pls understand google's interests

>>25674766
> I don't believe the new audience excuse who disappear everytime after 1 hour.
why holonerds dissapear everytime stream ends?

Are there any autistic rager VTubers like xQc?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4FAegs3ZaA

>>25675291
Anykara constantly buys ads on youtube unlike Cover

>>25675196
He also giga-abused the SHIT out of community posts back when they were underused and got a giga-massive boost of impressions off of that too.

>>25675026
Actual MCfag here, him and his Dream SMP crew are reclining so hard right now. Can't even pass 40k anymore

>>25675273
I didn't understand what you were saying about me with the bark bark bark thing.

>>25675116
it's more that it wasn't able to be appreciated with the kind of singular focus it deserved, considering how incredible it was, because Salome was off getting 100k+ every day just next to her
it took the edge off what should have been a really remarkable event

YAB KOBO

>>25675248
but that's the thing, she isn't, it has never been about that, you're gonna tell me greasy dumb as shit asmongold or adhd barely intelligible xqc are some sort of geniuses
numbers have never been about fucking quality, gura has never been that much better than other holos
numbers are about common denominators, sunk cost and luck, hard work is a meme, talent is a meme, being good at things is a meme

>>25675343
We proved this, they don't. They just reentered the holobox, the total number of people watching streams didn't change