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>> No.25659940
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.25659986
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>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,251
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696
3) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485
4) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,607
5) Miko (Hololive) - 98,858
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha, Miko, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
108x: Hololive
38x: Nijisanji
7x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
13x: Miko
12x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.

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>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React, Naver catchup
2) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
4) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship

>PER COMPANY
5x: Isegye Idol
1x: Board of Trustees

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gosegu, Ine, Jingburger, Kris Yim, Lilpa, VIichan

>> No.25660116

Honeypot thread

>> No.25660234
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>>25659918
oh the irony

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https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1534074710174351360
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1534081680054530048
https://twitter.com/7216_2nd/status/1534090779832238081

Documenting these hololeeches for posterity, help me collect them

>> No.25660264

>>25660234
Nijiseethe

>> No.25660280
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>>25660105
>>25660155
It was obvious they weren't on good terms. Hololive was just way too restricting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G14ML-3guWU

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>>25659918
S U C C E S S
B R E E D S
J E A L O U S Y

>> No.25660308

>>25660237
I'm sorry anon, you've got a terminal case of tribalist brain
Symptoms include seeing congratulatory tweets as offensive and no longer understanding jokes

>> No.25660311

I can already tell from the OP this is going to be the worst thread of the month

>> No.25660315

>>25659997
Nijiniggers have always been their own worst enemy. Back when vtubing started booming in early 2020 they fucked up hard by deliberately telling new viewers to fuck off to protect their walled garden and ended up making Hololive way more popular as a result

Nijifags would actually mass report Nijisanji clippers back then

So as per usual they'll take the mask off, reveal how repulsive they really are and end up turning people away yet again.

>> No.25660328

>>25660143
>She's supposedly getting huge amounts of new viewers every stream
Proof next thread?
You are thinking about chatters, not viewers. People who sent messages in chat - that's what the pics posted here were about (you can't see her viewers without them interacting with the stream). Those are just a tiny part of her viewers (~10-ish%) and don't really represent the whole

>> No.25660335

Seaniggers should be permaban from this site. Especially flipmonkeys

>> No.25660338

>>25660127
im talking from a streamer perspective. growth comes from the sotries that a streamer make. The goals he/she has and the way he improve herself and his content. debuting with a gen helps with those sotrylines as you can see realationships change and growth in a long timespan of years.Salami doesnt have that, but then again her style of streaming is not like most. Less zatsu heavy, more gagbased and also shorter.
As some have said is like wathcing a comedy anime.
>>25660118
well that is in part becasue she has acutally such a strong keyfab she cannot and will not have any control over his fans without breaking that ilusion.So any retard can attach to her.

>> No.25660354

>>25660315
im sorry you are this tribalist anon

>> No.25660359 [DELETED] 

>>25660280
It's like these faggots have never watched her member streams where she complained that Holo's idol culture was too toxic and restrictive and that them stopping her collab with Melody was the straw that broke the camel's back
Oh right. Holobronies in/#/ don't even watch streams

>> No.25660360

>>25660308
Koyori's tweet is straight up leeching though

>> No.25660364
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For fucks sake, is this really the only thread?

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>> No.25660383

>>25660308
You know how ironic shitposting is still shitposting?
Well, ironic leeching and leeching disguised as congratulations is still leeching. They would never acknowledge a 2view, they're leeching on to the biggest thing in town to get some of those sweet tourists

>> No.25660390

Salomefags make almost sense as kuzuhafags. there are some salome fans in here bt i bet most are just shitposters using her like they used vox

>> No.25660402

You faggots complain about thread quality and tribalism yet you'll make a thread with a picture like that and expect the quality to still be good. Absolute dumbass behavior.

>> No.25660404
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>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) – 77,793 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
4x: Nijisanji
2x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
43x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
8x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.25660409

>>25660264
dude one of your talents is literally trying to leech off a Niji
I don't really know what to say

>> No.25660414

>>25660315
>So as per usual they'll take the mask off, reveal how repulsive they really are
This is already happening, half the tweets about her hitting 1m are people shitting on other chuubas
It's literally this thread except worse and there's more of it

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Thank you salomates!

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>>25660404
>>25660409

>> No.25660432

Salami to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>> No.25660435

>>25660390
All nijifans are bitter tribalists willing to cheat to win. Vox and Salome prove that.

>> No.25660436

>>25660409
dont try to reason with it anon, it literally posts the same thing to everything niji related

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Good work nijiniggers, you have successfully filtered at least one holofag from continuing to watch her.

>> No.25660463

>>25660237
>Congratulations
vs
>NijiEN living in HoloEN twitter replies after debuts.
Koyori looks like a retard though.

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>pic is Holobronies in this thread right now
Cope seethe and dilate faggots

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>>25659918
>>25660308
>>25660315
>>25660390
>>25660414
>>25660435
>>25660438
we were innocent goy, it was the nijiniggas that did it not us!

>> No.25660476

>>25660338
You need a superstar for a solo debut. IRyS is a supporting character so of course that didn't work

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>>25660359
Well of course we don't watch Rosemi's member streams, we're holofags remember?

>> No.25660480

>>25660438
No one gives a fuck about you anon

>> No.25660482

>>25660414
>>25660390
>>25660338
now that i think about it. Solome keyfabe and 1hr streams does put her in disadvantage to control or have a good comunnity.

>> No.25660485

>>25660414
>on other chuubas
Only Holos, which is well deserved. People didn't shit on VSPO or Neoporte or VERSEn, for example
It's called karma

>> No.25660490

>>25660438
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY
She's literally getting 10k subs per hour. Your one view means nothing.

>> No.25660493

How does Salome get 100k viewers a stream even for normal games? I don't get it. I watched her and she seems like a normal talent. What am I missing? Is it bots like vox?

>> No.25660499

>>25660315
>>25660414
Who knew they could be more toxic than early chumbuds?

>> No.25660501
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>> No.25660500

>>25660328
It's a sample of the whole, chatters would also be the most likely to stick around/ most dedicated.

>> No.25660505

What's so bad about Hololive being the underdog again?

>> No.25660510

>>25660359
(You) don't watch streams. If (you) did, you wouldn't try this angle

>> No.25660516

>>25660438
kek letting anonymous users on a basket weaving forum make a decision for you

>> No.25660517

>>25660468
>pic is Holobronies in this thread right now
Oh, no.... anything but this.....

Anyway, sauce?

>> No.25660527

>>25660482
Does she have good interaction with her fanbase?

>> No.25660528

>>25660505
HOLOCOPE

>> No.25660530

>>25660414
I know this is hyperbole and exaggeration, but it's even funnier because I know most of this thread can't even read Japanese.

>> No.25660533

So today she'll break 100k+ views from people wanting to see how she acknowledges the milestone, right?

>> No.25660547

>>25660438
Damn, she is going to be really sad to get a median of 93,999 instead of 94k now

>> No.25660546

>>25660493
Uh, bro. you forgot to add the smalldog image to your post

>> No.25660549

>>25660485
Hololive is always magnanimous in victory, it's a shame that Nijniggers have such a deep seated inferiority complex they act like this.

>> No.25660553

>>25660438
Don't worry, thanks to, Hololive talents shilling, Salome will get more holofans soon

>> No.25660565

>>25660533
200k CCV!

>> No.25660568

>>25660533
Most likely. If she can't reach 100k with 1m buff, she is reclining

>> No.25660570

>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000092.000044525.html
So VSpo is now a sister group of RIOT MUSIC, Aogiri Highschool, and some others.
Honestly I can't believe VSpo is corpo now. But they should be able to get everyone in 3d for events with this change.

>> No.25660572

Yup, 50 posts in and this already the worst thread in /#/ history, even worse than the Millie botting one.

>> No.25660577

>>25660493
If you have to ask, you'll never get it. It's unironically an IQ filter because the humor is very layered and it's like watching a performance. But hey, maybe Hololive is more your level, enjoy your bottom of the barrel yuribait and waifu pandering.

>> No.25660576

>>25660527
there isnt SC reading or anything really meaningful zatsu wise during most streams.
not even sure if she would do memebership streams.

>> No.25660579

>>25660500
And that chart already shows that her viewer retention is growing since debut.
While still having a 90% tourist audience.

>> No.25660584

>>25660364
>>25657355

>> No.25660591

>>25660570
>I can't believe VSpo is corpo now
They were always corpo tho? A small corpo, but one nonetheless

>> No.25660597

>All these tribalistic holo responses
>The OP pic
>Its Nijifans shitting up the catalog!

>> No.25660607

>>25660527
Not really. Format is too short and she's mostly doing the kayfabe.

>> No.25660611

>>25660570
Anon, Vspo is already corpo before this...

>> No.25660617

>>25660527
she mostly creates her own comedy, chat banter is very rare. From watching her streams, the usual case is that she looks at chat maybe once every 30 mins or so.

>> No.25660618

>>25660308
>tribalist brain
While
>Op is literally tribalist

>> No.25660630

lol

>> No.25660637
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>>25660505
>>25660528

>> No.25660644

>>25660485
They've been shitting on holos since holos were literal 2views and their main competition was the likes of 774 and .LIVE, I still don't understand where this specific seething comes from

>> No.25660645

>>25660597
>>25660618
And still you faggots choose this one instead of make another

>> No.25660646

>>25660617
So Ai Kizuna/old style vtuber but it's livestream?

>> No.25660649

>>25660597
Did you miss how the previous thread got progressively worse as Nijiniggers started posting?

>> No.25660657

Salome mindbroke #'s

>> No.25660658

>>25660402
Usually we migrate to the less tribal op, but no other thread was made this time, so we're stuck with this one.

>> No.25660661

uh guys, how can I shit on Salome without sounding salty?

>> No.25660664
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>>25659940
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) – 77,793 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
4x: Nijisanji
2x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
43x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
8x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.25660665

>>25660527
If she tried to actually engage her audience, they would get filtered. That's part of why they're so garbage, because they really haven't been filtered at all, and they have no respect for polite behavior

>> No.25660666

>>25659918
This is going to be a wonderful thread, I can already tell

>> No.25660672

>>25660597
What if I told you the OP poster and the "Nijifags" were one and the same? These threads have a major shitposting tourist problem.

>> No.25660670

>>25660584
>Enter thread
>Immediate bot cope

>> No.25660683

Why is it that SEA posters have such a fanaticism for Nijisanji?
I mean, I get the numbers are big, but can't people just celebrate in peace?

>> No.25660689

>>25660637
Didn't realize Niji slipped to 3rd place behind VSPO

>> No.25660707

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/v6oexa/hyakumantenbara_salome_has_hit_1_millions/

>> No.25660711

>>25660553
You're more likely to see her new-to-vtubers fans moving to Subaru and Miko based on the chatter overlap than people abandoning the box they're in.

>> No.25660714 [DELETED] 

>>25660683
Nijifans are celebrating in peace
It's the Holofags shitting up the thread

>> No.25660716

>>25660665
>If she tried to actually engage her audience, they would get filtered.
I don't understand this mindset. Wouldn't the opposite happen because she panders the audience?

>> No.25660730

>>25660591
>>25660611
But now the indie feel will be gone

>> No.25660735

>>25660661
You if you say "bots" "nijiseethe" and "fotm" enough times you might come out sounding sane.

>> No.25660750
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One day she might recline
One day she might not trend
One day she might even retire
But never forget the one that single-handedly broke you, /#/

>> No.25660761

>>25660579
She hasn't been streaming that long so her retention should be very high but it isn't..
The problem is that she doesn't keep many of the people that watch a stream but somehow gets a huge amount of new people that come from the ether.

>> No.25660763

>>25660683
I don't know, every fucking time I see an ESL ITT, it's always a holofag

>> No.25660765

>>25660646
Pretty much. Added ojousama roleplay also makes a lot of comedic situations funnier, because even when she's screaming her tonsils out she sticks to kayfabe.
It's almost artificial, like an actual anime character.
There has been like ONE instance where she almost broke, in her 3rd stream I think she let out a ”あ、やべ” and chat was FLOODED with people pointing it out, but she never slipped again.

>> No.25660778

>>25660716
The casual tourist doesn't like Zatsudan or superchat reading, since they don't pay or care about hearing the talent's opinions or about their day

>> No.25660785

>>25660468
God I wish I was a Holobrony

>> No.25660786

>>25660750
It's fascinating the amount of seethe we've caused to a specific group of Indog discord trannies

>> No.25660789

>>25660661
It's impossible, people will declare you are just mad about numbers because of the context
I do have an actual criticism though, she leans on video game streams. They're lazy, lowest common denominator content, above only reacting to viral videos (which you can't do on Youtube anyway). Her one attempt at zatsu was nothing special. This largely also applies to Pekora though

>> No.25660790

>>25660716
She's get a more loyal audience, but the V-hating tourists watching her would get filtered.

>> No.25660791

So anons, who's winning gold today?
Thankfully that dumb bitch haachama decided to make it a premiere so she can be thrown in the garbage where she belongs

>> No.25660792

>>25660637
>Care about medians and means
Forever-2nd-rate mentality

>> No.25660799

>>25660683
All the Nijibro posts I see are completely fine, we are celebrating big numbers in the numbers thread like what we're meant to do. Meanwhile holobronies attack us at every turn unprovoked, like in the OP of this thread. And then they have the audacity to claim to be the victim.
The holobrony cries out in pain as he strikes you.

>> No.25660810

>>25660689
I wonder how the merge will affect the ranking for Brave Group and VSPO rankwise.

>> No.25660812

Chocosen 6.6k, I kneel

>> No.25660821

https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1534084895429074945
I don't get it. Why is YT not exposing her for botting?

>> No.25660825

>>25660761
>that come from the ether.
*that catch up with VODs you mean

>> No.25660836

>recycling Vox bait with Salome now
But her face is not as annoying so, it's an improvement

>> No.25660838

>>25660789
>she leans on video game streams. They're lazy, lowest common denominator content
If they're the lowest common denominator content, when why can't Hololive do it and succeed in the same way?

>> No.25660842

>>25660765
I do think she has played or at elast aware of most of the game before hand. Even with chat help which she doesnt see a lot she doesnt get that lost nor does she waste time on looking at the enviroment in games. it is more a play/act than it is a normal gaming playtrough.

>> No.25660844

>>25660792
I agree, Nijisanji should graduate every single Liver who isn't Salami. They only need one, and it's number 1

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>>25660810
It depends if they're all counted as Brave Group
VSpo will still operate independently, just like aogiri

>> No.25660851

>>25660825
Who are these people who watch a single 1-hour stream live, then are never available in that time slot again and have to catch up on the vod

>> No.25660854

>>25660672
I'd believe you if the second post wasn't the meme tally that specifically excludes Salome and was made by holofans.

>> No.25660862

Thread narrative the past few days went from
>Salome is botted and her growth isn't natural and soon she'll die out at 10k views, cope nijiniggers
To now
>Please stop guys, tribalfagging is actually bad why are you bragging about numbers?

This general from the very beginning was numberfag and tribalfag territory.

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>streams over 10k so far
Skinny day so far

>> No.25660868

>>25660792
Immediately graduate all Nijis other than Salome.

>> No.25660886

>>25660716
they are they to watch an act. they dont care about everything else.
given the twitter behavior i HOPE is a temporal thing or her fans are gonna be really annoying since she cant call them out without breaking the act.

>> No.25660891 [DELETED] 

>>25660868
Graduate all Holos for not being Salome

>> No.25660898

>>25660868
They are harmless, so it wouldn't matter if they are, or aren't there. People are going to pay attention at the top anyway.

>> No.25660900

This bitch is botting, Milord has way more activity.

>> No.25660917

>>25660851
Normal people? I watch maybe 30 minutes of streams every day when I'm eating or about to sleep and no more than that. I don't give a fuck about dead hours because I'm at work or doing my own shit most of the day. Sometimes I'll be up there catch a stream live and sometimes I won't be.

>> No.25660922

>>25660891
Yagoo never stops being a savirofag anon, he is that loveable.

>> No.25660926

>>25660864
Haachama's anniversary is a premiere so she won't be counted and her watchalong will do shit numbers
Mio has a chance with the one million endurance
But I wouldn't be surprised if Salome started early today

>> No.25660927

>>25660862
What the fuck are you talking about. This thread has just been bogged down with absurd amounts of shitposting for the last 6 hours because of salami hype, there hasn't been any serious attempt to argue with them because they're fucking shitposters

>> No.25660934

>>25660862
BUT HOLOS ARE LOSING, YOU CAN'T BE MEAN TO US WHEN WE LOSE

>> No.25660938

>>25660821
Any second now...right?????

>> No.25660939

>>25660683
They are seething cause holo never gave them attention

>> No.25660946

>>25660825
Is there any proof of that? Her VOD views have been decreasing.
If they were sticking around and watching they should be much higher.
Where are all the new chatters coming from? How can she consistently have so many people new to her stream that don't watch anyone else?

>> No.25660948
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Oh boy, this cute KR catgirl is getting 5k+ again.

>> No.25660952

>>25660922
Yagoo is a model that should be a CEO instead. He needs to manage this company better.

>> No.25660961

>>25660854
lol, implying it wasn't a fucking nijinigger that made that tally just so he could act offended by it. You're so fucking obvious

>> No.25660965

>>25660838
Because they all also do other things (zatsus, karaoke, and worse of all, superchat readings) that filter people who just want to enjoy a video game by proxy while half paying attention to someone yelling over it

>> No.25660967

>>25660821
Okay bros, here's how Hololive can still win. Nijisanji will fold any second now, it was all a prank.

>> No.25660979

>>25660952
Fucker, he is better than Riku who willingly cuts underperforming streamers.

>> No.25660983
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25660983

>holo will never a gold ever again
>holo will never get a 100k stream ever again
You got your 1 year holoniggers. It's our time now.

>> No.25660993
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Unity is the answer anon

>> No.25660995

>>25660505
>BeInG aN uNdErDoG1!1!
>AGAIN
Huh? Are you too retard to read graph or cocky because a single girl?

>> No.25661000

>>25660838
Becasue the girls dont want them
well rather they dont want them to FORM THE MAYORITY of their respective fanbase and want to do variety fo content.

>> No.25661005

>>25660948
I don't know why but somehow I'm not surprised NijiKR actually more successful when they merged into main branch

>> No.25661007

>>25660838
you mean like Mikos WWE streams?

>> No.25661014

>>25660948
I said it, Niji is taking over the markets again. Salome will take care of JP. Vox the Asian / CN / TW. Now even KR Nijis are inclining again.
Holo has... what? ID market? Maybe a dying Western market too?

>> No.25661017

>>25660948
0.05 salome..

>> No.25661018

>>25660979
Uh huh, and he is going to waste all of that money he made during HoloFes to save his dying company.

>> No.25661020
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>>25659918
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*

>77,793: Watame (Hololive)
>30,450: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>28,960: Miko (Hololive)
>26,650: Laplus (Hololive)
>17,424: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>16,187: Botan (Hololive)
>16,031: Mio (Hololive)
>15,632: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,538: Shion (Hololive)
>15,325: Towa (Hololive)
>14,646: Kaede (Nijisanji)
>13,249: Noel (Hololive)
>12,688: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,350: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,872: Haachama (Hololive)
>10,557: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,221: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,031: Kobo (Hololive)

>> No.25661021

>>25660965
Makes sense, so she's basically a live let's player without any of the other extra stuff streamers do. I can see the appeal honestly, I used to watch only LP's. Still do mostly, mixed in with some karaoke.

>> No.25661034

>>25660792
Any actual Nijifag would care about the state of the rest of the company. Stop falseflagging you transparent retard.

>> No.25661041

>>25660961
Ah, so the posts that respond with Nijiseethe must also be nijifans.
The posts that try to call out bots must also be Nijifans.
Everything in here is just Nijifans.
Please stop with the boogeyman posting. Its clearly obvious that those people are not niji fans, at all.

>> No.25661046

>>25660661
Well you could spam "IPO SCAAAM" without a brain.

Or we could actually analyze the incidents so far.
> Riku announces IPO
> Gets told to solo debut a talent
> Audience is told that she's a "delayed debut" but even some of their own livers are surprised by the suddenness of the debut
> 29 min debut and wacky hijinks give an excuse to "go viral"
> first wave of hype is manufactured like always, but it catches on, and becomes real afterwards
> Youtube specifically excludes her from sub culls and CCV culls, giving her a smooth-ass curve

Youtube uses culling as a way to restrict what people see, because unlike twitch, they're a far more general platform. EN was culled in December 2020 because that was around the time of the Election and they needed people out in the streets for their charade.

So pretty sure someone who already had stocks in Nijisanji, someone VERY high up in the chain, came up with this idea in order to inflate their stock. The question is going to be whether it's to sell and cash out, or to bait certain big companies into buying their stock.

There's definitely some moves being made in the background, gonna be fun to see where we're going.

>> No.25661049

>>25660821
OH NO NO NO

>> No.25661050 [DELETED] 

>>25661018
>he made during Holofes
Anon-chama, Holofes was a colossal failure
Why do you think Holos are desperate to leech off of Salome right now

>> No.25661064

>>25660821
>>25660938
>>25660967
Same poster btw.

>> No.25661069

>>25661018
What is this stupid rrat? What the fuck are you imagining Cover is spending their money on here?

>> No.25661071
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25661071

Brutal

>> No.25661078
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25661078

>>25661064

>> No.25661087

Botted views
Botted likes
Botted comment
Botted trend
Botted fanart
Botted cosplay
Botted SC
Botted hype

>> No.25661096

>>25660821
2 MORE WEEKS!

>> No.25661100
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>>25661020
Can't we just have more fat tits?

>> No.25661101

>>25661041
It's true though. The only people here are retards acting like bigger retards and pretending to get mad at each other. Nobody here is expressing a genuine opinion.

>> No.25661103

>>25660948
The JP start to give em a chance like Bora, i kinda happy seeing suha finally can grow again, last man standing and i hope he stay for long time

>> No.25661107

>>25661046
Even if this is true, it's cope until you can provide more evidence (stock numbers moving in very odd ways) or something that's actually a smoking gun (someone leaks something from internal memos). That's just how it is.

>> No.25661112
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25661112

https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1534061811901014017
CAN'T STOP WINNING

>> No.25661113

>>25660821
>>25661071

fucking destroyed

>> No.25661122

>>25661018
>Dying company
Hololive earns more than 3 times the revenue of Nijisanji. It's not even a contest, in business terms Hololive blasts Nijisanji so far out of the water in every metric that Hololive is Coke and Nijisanji is their offbrand Aldi knockoff

>> No.25661125
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25661125

How many for her tonight?

>> No.25661138

>>25660948
im sure people will ditch her after she finish her drawing streams.

>> No.25661140
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25661140

It's kinda sad because she has to retweeted the stream rules around few hours before hitting 1mil, yet all hell still broke loose.

>> No.25661146

>>25661078
Not even a good edit.

>> No.25661151

NijiFes is going to be a bloodbath in here I swear. I remember when HoloFes3 happen and everyone is watching the stream while no one was talking shit about Niji.
Hopefully, Nijifans will be the same.

>> No.25661159

>>25661122
No but Nijisanji wins gold, you're coping if you think anything else matters, Peak CCV is everything and will make Nijisanji a superpower by 2020

>> No.25661161

>>25661122
>Hololive earns more than 3 times the revenue of Nijisanji
Did you just fucking miss the data last thread
I swear to god these threads

>> No.25661175

>>25661146
How the fuck do I screenshot any better?

>> No.25661177

>>25661125
Isn't that the art from a Holo artist? I know it. It seems like many Holo artists are drawing Salome as well.

>> No.25661185

>>25661034
I wasn't talking about "state of the rest of the company", because it's beyond what >we can get from data available publicly.
I was talking about public perception. How new fans, returning fans, or potential fans will be looking at the group. People are going to look at the peaks, not the averages / medians. Do you think normal people care enough to look up on Holo or Niji's averages and medians? Have you ever seen Youtube, or JP news platforms saying anything about that? No, people are going to care about big / biggest numbers. That's why Salome / Niji is current online social phenomenon in JP.
Hololive has 10k median CCV? Cool, where are the tweet post from JP news sites or YT about that? Are all sponsors going to look at /#/ or datamine Vrabi to calculate monthly CCV?

>> No.25661192
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>>25661071
Heh

>> No.25661198

>>25661046
>EN was culled in December 2020 because that was around the time of the Election and they needed people out in the streets for their charade.
lmao okay holobronies are QAnon drones. makes sense
he lost btw, get over it.

>> No.25661215

>>25661161
>Net profit of Nijisanji this year: 1.2B yen
>Net profit of Hololive from the previous year: 1.7B
Who had more members again?

>> No.25661219

>ITT: shistposters pissing on an ocean of piss pretending to defend either side while just stoking the "flames"
In reality there is no flames, they're essentially talking to themselves and people are talking around them

>> No.25661224

>>25661151
They will shits on Holofans. I can already imagine that

>> No.25661229

>>25661161
The data that clearly indicated Hololive was absolutely destroying Nijisanji in revenue? Yes, we all saw it. We also saw the extensive catalogue of your company's misdeeds and maltreatment of its talent, as well as the terrible corporate policies that steal 90% of the earnings from the Livers.

>> No.25661235

>>25661185
companies dont work ONLY on perception.
otherwise koshien would make niji number 1 trought the rest of the eyar.

>> No.25661237
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>>25661064
oooh nice try but sorry

>> No.25661246

>>25661161
I don't agree with that anon, but "data last thread" isn't up to date either. Don't think we have this year (2022) reports yet, unless I missed something

>> No.25661260

>>25661140
This is the curse of the biggest numbers. You get an absolute tard audience ( see : xQc, Jun, et Al).
Unless she explicitly lays down the law ON STREAM (which will filter her audience) it will never get better.

>> No.25661284

>>25661235
Niji has been, and IS number 1 in JP throughout the year, though? You can try to compare amount of big sponsorships in JP. Holo had 3 or 4, while Niji had dozens

>> No.25661293

>>25661246
We don't have full 2022 data from Cover yet (3 quarters of data got posted for Nijisanji though, as well as the first bit of 2022).

>> No.25661296

>>25661185
Yeah, and the current public perception is the absolute fucking travesty that is desumates on twitter right now. It's a really good look for the fanbase of the new most popular Vtuber in the world to act like fucking rabid animals

>> No.25661299

>>25661125
170k

>> No.25661304

>>25661229
anon that data is missing other shit as well as being up to date. >>25661246

hell, the IPO is actually a great opertunity to see the logistics once they open up

>> No.25661314

>>25660961
Stop acting seiso anon, we all know how bitter holofan are to nijifan from this site or outside of this site, like srs

>> No.25661317

>>25661293
Did Cover get scared of posting theirs?

>> No.25661320

>>25659986
Go here >>25657355

>> No.25661321

>>25661140
>>25661260
It's the same exact situation as with Gura. You can't get a fanbase that big that fast without picking up a huge number of retards who think being subscribed to someone on youtube means they are part of that success and need to gloat about it

>> No.25661323

>>25661046
There's definitely some sort of foul play going on here.
The timing with the IPO and all the other coincidences just don't sit well with me.
She's also a complete statistical anomaly in terms of where her viewership comes from and goes when she finishes.
I don't doubt that she's popular, big numbers beget big numbers, but she's not a 90k+ streamer.

>> No.25661327

>>25661317
they are private

>> No.25661329

>>25661071
Wait, what's going on with those dates? I don't remember everyone's debut dates exactly but Subaru sure as hell didn't debut in 2020 and Watame is a few days off too.

>> No.25661330

>>25661284
This is just wrong. Nijisanji hasn't been number 1 in japan in years now

>> No.25661345

>>25661284
Then, name the JP sponsors. As far as I know, It's mostly CN or non-JP sponsorships.

>> No.25661354

>>25661321
yeah but desuwa doesnt have a way to filter this reatrds. that is the issue

>> No.25661355

Only one (1) hololive stream out of the 9 that aired has reached 10k btw, and that 10k is by the leech koyori from her shitty morning show where she; as you might have guessed, leeches off of other members.

>> No.25661358
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25661358

Koyori Z'ing, sawtoothing and underperforming her baseball usual numbers

>> No.25661368

>>25661330
how is it wrong though? shit like youtube japan sucking them off all the time should be telling.

hololive are just global monsters.

>> No.25661382
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25661382

Salome trending

>> No.25661383

Salome is going to have a special place on the daily lists from now on. She's going to drop down to 1k CCV and every day she'll be strung up and laughed at as an example of the time Nijiniggers got too cocky just like they did with Leos and Edengumi

>> No.25661386

>>25661355
Two. Kronii beat 10k

>> No.25661391

>>25661125
Her stream tonight probably can break her previous record

>> No.25661398
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25661398

Any Salome 'fans' shitting on mito or other niji female stream? Just like how chunbud back then

>> No.25661399

>>25660661
Cant. On the face of it, Salome is gold. The most suspicious thing about her numbers is that they came out of nowhere. They should have indicated a new market or another pandemic lockdown. But she’s almost as Japanese as Mito and her graphs are too normal to be bots. All that can be said is that she’s an amazing outlier even for face streamers

>> No.25661410

>>25661368
It's been debunked numerous times. '1# in Japan' is a classic Nijicope, well known and heavily mocked for how often its touted and how wrong it is

>> No.25661416

>>25661368
becasue twitter pages are handle by interns

>> No.25661423
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25661423

>>25661330
If by "years," you mean "2 weeks," then yeah, Hololive was above Nijisanji in Japan.

>> No.25661438

>>25661398
The only people I shit on are those who have been making bot claims. And you know exactly who you are.

>> No.25661448

>>25661358
Leeching whore, no one cares about her.

>> No.25661452

what the actual fuck is this dude's problem with koyori, literally has been calling her a leech for like 2 weeks
also, for all the retards about the tweet, watch streams, the whole joke is that she used "desuwa" during the entire stream back in february

>> No.25661457
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>>25661358
pfft, what a weak Z, watch this

>> No.25661456

>>25661423
botted google trend

>> No.25661459
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25661459

This thread currently only has 48 IPs, as others have already pointed out this schizo has been larping on both sides and samefagging, was even caught on a previous thread.

>> No.25661461
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>>25661423
>Google Trends
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I missed you Google Trends anon

>> No.25661464

>>25661423
Good old google trends, how I missed you. Welcome back, nijitard, we missed you

>> No.25661470

>>25661368
>how is it wrong though?
The fact that Hololive has been more popular in Japan for years now? Hololive sold 5x the doujins at C99 than Niji

>> No.25661482

>>25660577
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Hyakumantenbara Salome. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of endoscopic medicine most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Salomes nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterization - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodanya Volya literature, for instanse. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Hyakumantenbara Salome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor in Salomes existential catchphrase "Desu Wa" which itself is cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Rikus genius unfolds itself on their computer monitors. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Hyakumantenbara Salome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only. And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>> No.25661484

>>25661423
>google trends anon
i see we have the full buffet of copes today.

>> No.25661488

>>25661423
>Google Trends
Oh, hey. How you've been, man?

>> No.25661490

Less than 24 hours left before the IPO public sale starts and total strangers buy a part of Anycolor. How's it looking boys

>> No.25661494

>>25661423
too much cope

>> No.25661496

>>25661423
>The google trends Nijifag is back
I see you finally stopped hiding in shame

>> No.25661502

>>25661185
What sort of unaware retard makes this sort of post?

>> No.25661515

>>25661452
She didn't need to mention Salome

>> No.25661516
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25661516

To think, after all this time
>NOBODY LAID CLAIM TO RUSHIA SLOT!
Come on! It's free real estate

>> No.25661517

>>25661457
Those are literally heartbeats.

>> No.25661518

>>25661470
>muh porn
So Hololive is only good for cooming, good to know. Oh wait, I can just use Genshin doujins for that and they blow Hololive out of the water.

>> No.25661524

>>25661382
botted

>> No.25661528

>>25660577
>You simply lack the intelligence to understand the incredible depth and rich nuance of these video game react streams, unlike me, a certified genius with a very large brain

>> No.25661536

>>25661410
>debunked
>nijisanji has a Twitter topic
>YouTube Japan shilling nijis 24/7
>this garbage >>25661423

At some period hololive was more popular but for the past 5 years? Fucking lol

>> No.25661535

>>25661398
Nope, and i don't think anyone gonna attempt to (unless they anti)
https://twitter.com/nurunuru_unauna/status/1533026869645570049?t=06Mt-AiSaCwF5bGyiDz3Kg&s=19

>> No.25661541

>>25661386
Did she? Oh I didn't see it, then 2 put of thr 10 streams since I didn't count it.
Wow... Friend will hit 10k, Chloe gold possibly and haachama 10k maybe on the watchalong I guess? But I highly doubt it, I'm not expecting big numbers from her today anyways, 20k max.
Then after haachama the possible 10ks are botan, mio, kobo and Noel with a possible candidate being watame

>> No.25661546

QUESTION; is the stock ticket for Anycolor a public one, the way people can see their stock rising and falling with time?

That would make numberfag even funnier! a /vt/biz crossover kek

>> No.25661549

>>25661490
Going to short it. I'm betting hard on Anykara doing a pump and dump

>> No.25661553

>>25661516
People are still trying to get back home and are on the train

>> No.25661559

>>25661461
>>25661464
>>25661484
>>25661488
>>25661496
I actually have no clue who you're talking about, but if you have anything better that shows Hololive outdoing Nijisanji on the home turf, I'd like to see it.

>> No.25661561

>>25661518
>Retard doesn't understand doujin
The absolute state of tourists.

>> No.25661566

>>25660862
Baffling post

>> No.25661571

>>25661515
she didn't tho, which actually makes it kind of a diss

>> No.25661574

>>25661516
Uproar...

>> No.25661577

>>25661516
>Niji at the top
I feel sorry for holobronies now

>> No.25661588

>>25661559
Stop using google trends like a retard.

>> No.25661593

>>25661452
Mentioning Salome wasn't necessary, an obvious leech koyofag and she's absolutely seething about the fact that Salome hit a million in two weeks while she barely hit 500k in the time frame she wanted and ended up sobbing and getting pity subs from it
JP Kiara through and through

>> No.25661599

>>25661482
>>25661528
It's okay, most Hololive girls never even graduated college so you'll fit right in

>> No.25661608

>>25660730
As long as Brave Group doesn't shit up Vspo with crypto and nft shilling, they'll remain the same

>> No.25661620

>>25661588
It's easier to read and follow than whatever signs and symbols your schizo ass is seeing.

>> No.25661622

>>25661588
too late

>> No.25661637

>>25661593
She didn't mention Salome though, she made a joke obliquely referencing her since she's in the news today. Nobody except people already reading Koyori's tweets would even see it

>> No.25661641

>>25661608
I can only hope they don't. That would really be the end of vtubers for me.

>> No.25661645

I have gone through the trouble of manually hiding every post that looks like a shitpost as the thread grows, and I only now realize there isn't a single post in this thread I haven't hidden.

Good job. Keep up the hard work.

>> No.25661646

Well I gotta sleep now, bros. I promised myself to never visit /#/ because of how retarded it has been lately but the 1mil sub for salome made me have to check it out. May the seethers forever seethe and the ojouchads keep expanding.

>> No.25661649

>>25661593
literally getting mad in your head and transfering that to her, you schizophrenic fuck, get help

>> No.25661651
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25661651

>Google Trends schizo pretending it's the first time he's doing it

>> No.25661657

>>25661571
she did, she didn't say her name directly but she did mention Salome

>> No.25661660

>>25659918
* TWITCH TALLY OF 06-JUNE *

> 15,804 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 15,151 : Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 14,016 : Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 13,095 : Kris Yim (EN Board of Trustees)
> 12,229 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 11,789 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 10,658 : Veibae (EN VShojo)
> 8,071 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 6,970 : Shylily (EN Indie)
> 6,503 : Amelia Watson (EN Hololive)
> 6,467 : Haruka Karibu (EN Indie)
> 6,140 : zrush (CN Indie)
> 5,509 : Roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 5,025 : KendoMurft (EN Indie)
> 4,910 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 4,418 : Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)

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25661663

How do we save ***a...

>> No.25661661

>>25661599
Nobody mentioned hololive anon
I guess with your brain being so large there's plenty of space for you to let them stay in there rent-free though

>> No.25661678

Do faggots think that “haha google trends isn’t that good” is a good gotcha or someshit and still held on that angle for numerous number threads?

isn’t that shit hard data too? Is it because anything that shows nijisanji is in fact popular hampers the some of the delusions that fags conjure up about nijisanji?

What have these threads turned to

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>>25661660
>JUNE 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 15,498 - Vocaloid WC React, Naver catchup
2) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,571 - VR Chat - tween model showcase
3) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 14,343 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
4) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 16,556 - Zatsu, React - Naver and clips catchup
5) Kris Yim (Board of Trustees) 19,915 - Black Mesa (Twitch main page)
6) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) 15,804 - Voting in anime OST championship

>PER COMPANY
5x: Isegye Idol
1x: Board of Trustees

>PER STREAMER
1x: Gosegu, Ine, Jingburger, Kris Yim, Lilpa, VIichan

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25661695

>>25661559

>> No.25661697

>>25661559
Just wait until Cover's anual report leaks so that we can compare it against AnyColor's. If there's anything that proves how dominant one is over the other, it's going to be that.

>> No.25661707

When did Hololive start to get more popular than Nijisanji in Japan?
This video was made in October 2020 and Niji is clearly more popular.
https://youtu.be/NxQjDcGZYcg

>> No.25661709

>>25661678
compare using individual streamers name and see the difference.

>> No.25661712

>>25661678
This is a holoboard so get used to it

>> No.25661730

>>25661637
>>25661649
She totally didn't mention it
Like how haachama DIDN'T mention Salome here, right?
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1530384642314235905
Holowhores leeching like they've always done, keep coping fags

>> No.25661732

>>25661678
No, it's because google trends are a fucking joke

Seriously, stop being retarded and stop using google trends, or we'll keep laughing at you

>> No.25661731

EN3 doko?

>> No.25661742
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25661742

This Nari Yang chick is just a better cuter Nyanners without the baggage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pknFoB2_2II

> WELL ANONS!?

>> No.25661743

>>25661046
Her numbers just make no sense to me especially put in the greater context of Nijisanji. Nijisanji is notorious for slow as fuck sub growth. One of the biggest talents in the company (Toya) just has like 600k subs after YEARS of activity. Mito, one of the icons of the industry hasn't even hit 1 million yet despite being active for over 4 years.

It's baffling and there is no doubt that there is some numbers manipulation going on. Your post makes a lot of sense.

>> No.25661746

>>25661368
Youtubejapan also sucks off Hololive a lot, what's your point
there's even shit like this https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1486519339863973889 Holostars must be huge in japan too I guess

>> No.25661751

>>25661709
quality company vs quantity company
you can't compare one to one

>> No.25661761

>>25661730
get help

>> No.25661763

>>25661712
not anymore

>> No.25661774

>>25661709
>>25661732

So we’re also going to ignore the niji Twitter topic and the YouTube Japan clearly having favour with niji instead of holo too?

What sort of shit do you faggots actually want? Are these number threads or dick measuring contests between holo and niji

>> No.25661773

>>25661751
So you admit that Nijisanji isn't a quality company? Irrelevant. They still make less money, even on their 'home turf'

>> No.25661776

>>25661678
>isn’t that shit hard data too?
lol no. It gives you nothing. Unless you can explain the numbers behind the trend it's just a line, it means nothing.

>> No.25661778

>>25661751
Nijisanji has both quantity and quality anon

>> No.25661785

>>25661742
no

>> No.25661790

>>25661678
No, I work in marketing, google trends is actually terrible in a lot of ways and especially for what that retard is trying to do with it (compare talent groups with huge numbers of members, with non-English names that have to be romanized, where a random subset of them are flagged as topics)

>> No.25661794

>deleted
huh, wonder which thread they got him in

>> No.25661795

>>25661695
>Touhou gets more doujins than One Piece. This proves Touhou is more popular in Japan.
>>25661697
That wouldn't say anything about the state of the competition in Japan, would it?

>> No.25661800

>>25661778
Huh? What
The cope lol
What quality are you talking about? 3 view?

>> No.25661801

>>25661778
Is that why barely anyone watches them?

>> No.25661802

>>25660237
Being a good sport is being a leech according to nijinigger.
Please dont measure holos with your standards.

>> No.25661817

>>25661773
yeah I don't watch Niji. But they have a different strategy priority quantity over quality. At the end of the day, it's the total revenue that matters

>> No.25661818

>>25661800
2views never learn

>> No.25661832

>Hololive goes on a break
>NijiEN worming, IPO announcement, Solo debut vtuber who reached 1M in under 20 days
>VSPO was acquired and merged
>Neo Porte is handled by Hal who's associated with TSM and CR
>Vshojo to announce JP branch soon
Thoughts on the new #'s arc?

>> No.25661838
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>>25661774
We want you to acknowledge the facts and use real data

>> No.25661848

>>25660993
tribalfag thread

>> No.25661850

>>25661832
It's pretty interesting to say the least.

>> No.25661852

How did Salome avoid all he culls?

>> No.25661853

>>25661284
>Niji is number 1 in JP
Anon, this isn't 2019 anymore. Nijisanji hasn't been #1 since about the middle of 2020.

>> No.25661854

>>25661832
outside solome the rest seems like a wet fart.

>> No.25661858

>>25660414
Any examples??

>> No.25661863

>>25661707
huh no one can answer this?
Why didn't these people know about Hololive?

>> No.25661865

>>25661746
Compared to the constant shilling that nijisanji gets? It’s not even a contest.

If anything a good point of contention you retarded numberfaggots could’ve brought up was hololive cup noodle shit that one vid YouTube Japan did.

That’s a good thing to use.

>> No.25661868

>>25661774
That's just arbitrary favoritism from whatever intern runs those accounts anon, what does it have to do with numbers

>> No.25661869

>>25661774
>Are these number threads or dick measuring contests between holo and niji
We all know for a fact that Salome's performance wouldn't be nearly as controversial here if she was a Holo.

>> No.25661876

>>25661863
dude it's 2020

>> No.25661880

>>25661802
Are you really trying to imply that Koyori's wasn't leeching when she literally shills her own stream?
I'll give you FBK and Matsuri, but Koyori too? No.

>> No.25661883

>>25661838
All Hololives big hitters are on hiatus except Miko.

1. Marine - Out
2. Pekora - Out
3. Miko - Still going
4. Suisei - Out

>> No.25661884

>>25661707
This video is pretty fucking telling too yet fags here ignore it

>> No.25661888

>>25661795
It might if we can get a income breakdown by region.

>> No.25661892

>>25661524
Incredible the bots are making fanart too

>> No.25661894

Haachama delayed the anniversary stream to 9pm to not overlap Chloe's announcement. Considering Koyori and Lui also have announcements this week, are they really going to rush holoX 3D to have them do two debuts a week?
Now Chammers getting overlapped by Kanata and Matsuri

>> No.25661896

>>25661832
>>Hololive goes on a break
Did Hololive forge that businesses are supposed o be competitive. Their rivals didnt.

>Thoughts on the new #'s arc?
DONT SLEEP

>> No.25661897

>>25661852
Actual bots don't get culled. Youtube's culling mechanism is so bad, it does exactly the opposite of what it's supposed to do

>> No.25661902

>>25661876
it's October 2020 and Hololive was more popular than Niji at that time according to this guy >>25661853

>> No.25661904

>>25660577
Kek look at this nigger go
Why are nijibronies so cartoonish?

>> No.25661905

>>25661382
20k tweets? That's it? Gura gets more than that just by saying something dumb on stream, lol.

>> No.25661918

>>25661852
Same way the chinks do. Now that I think about it, it does seem likely that the chinks are behind this

>> No.25661922

>>25661883
All four of them barely hold a candle to Salome though
How does it feel knowing that you need to sum up the ccv of your 3 biggest holos to make up a single Salome?

>> No.25661923

>>25660862
Damage control as always. Quite funny anyway.

>> No.25661925

>>25661894
It's just a premiere

>> No.25661932

>>25661868
So now it’s arbitrary favouritism? Fucking hell my sides.

You could’ve used fucking sponserships as a counterpoint as hololive gets more high profile ones. Where the fuck did critical discussion go.

>> No.25661933

>>25661896
One talent does not make a company.

>> No.25661938

>>25660821
Youtube doesn't like bots retard, that's far too obvious.
Their way of pushing something is more subtle. Recommendations.
You know how certain VODs or certain videos just don't seem to go away from your recommended tab, despite how much you click "stop recommending me this shit"?
Yeah.
For every sane person that doesn't click it, there's 99 retards who do, in order to see what's the big deal.
That's how they push something. Initially anyway. Once it crosses 1M, numbers beget numbers, and it will be much easier to spread it, especially to people who may not be interested in that type of content, but might be drawn in by big numbers.

The "Youtube is run by Pajeets" narrative also serves to hide this very system.
I mean really. They have the ability to detect and dictate what millions of people see, and you think they're just... not gonna use it?
Do you seriously think that Hololive getting recommended all across the English speaking world right around the time everyone was staying home(Miko), and around the same time that a Black Dude was being worshipped as a Saint (Miko, again), was what - "just a coincidence"?

So silly you folks are, not even able to connect the most basic facts in front of you.

>> No.25661948

>>25661883
>all
Subaru?
Also doesn't really matter. The box has absorbed the viewership.

>> No.25661951

>>25661852
One of the excuses can be that Youtube themselves are sending in bots to boost her popularity. It's all a big conspiracy. So long as the tribalfags can avoid facing the truth they will keep pushing their fantasies in order to extend their cope like it is their own lives they depend on.

>> No.25661956

>>25661897
>Implying bots are all that's left subbed to everyone, Gura included.
Would actually explain her deadsubs, kek.

>> No.25661959

>>25660390
She's at least female, so it's plausible that at least some people do watch her. Her thread is also much more active than the normal Nijisanji JP thread ever was. Vox also does have unironic fans but they mostly stay in their own thread and do stuff like write erotic gay fanfiction.

>> No.25661965

>>25661852
Vtuber fans get culled because they subscribed to 20 vtubers all at once and then try to use multiview to up their oshi's ccv
Tourist normies won't' get cullled because thye dont do any of that

>> No.25661967

>>25661707
Yeah, clearly, the 20 people they interviewed and representative of the entire industry. Also, if you really want to go by that video as the be all and end all of popularity, I guess that means Kizuna Ai was more popular than both Niji and Holo in Oct. 2020. Yeah, that is a totally legit video.

>> No.25661971

Its not SEA primetime
Why # become trash ?

>> No.25661981

>>25661894
She didn't delay anything though, she was going to air it at that time since she put the frame up
Also for some reason haachama tweeted about chloe's announcement and said to make sure to check it out because it's exciting... She never really does this so I wonder what's up.
And Kanata already tweeted that she won't be streaming and instead shilled haachama, along with miko and azki yesterday.
As for Matsuri, she'll probably move her frame later like she did last time and even if she didn't I don't think it'll be inconsequential, although this board won't shut up about it

>> No.25661987

I wonder how chart anon feels about his charts being used to just bait 90% of the time... These threads get so much unimaginably worse during SEA hours.

>> No.25661990

>>25661707
>October 2020
Hololive overtook Nijisanji January 2021

>> No.25662000

>>25661971
Fake anger over fake cringe. Fake hype about fake drama. Fake shock for fake drama. This is the dumbest shit you could do. Nothing but Empty arguments and samefagging.

>> No.25662002

>>25661981
>She never really does this so I wonder what's up.
She's returning to the box

>> No.25662006

>>25661967
Kizuna definitely had a more popular brand than both Niji and Hololive

>> No.25662007

>>25661971
>330 posts
>64 unique posters

>> No.25662010

>>25661932
You're talking about Twitter topics and trend categories - which are assigned by hand - and tweets from Youtube's PR account. These are both just whatever that company's social media intern feels like doing
To put this another way: Astel is the only vtuber to get a happy birthday tweet from Tenga, by that metric he must be the biggest vtuber on the planet

>> No.25662012

1 million 20 thousand omedetou

>> No.25662014

Salome 1.02M subs

>> No.25662024
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25662024

>>25661709
>Don't use google trends it shows you nothing and is useless and isn't true
>Except when you input the keywords that put out something I like. Then it's 100% true and real

>> No.25662031

>>25661987
>I wonder how chart anon feels about his charts being used to just bait 90% of the time
I suppose the feeling would be
>at least it is well supported bait backed by data
which is a big improvement over
>streamer X is totally mogging streamer Y
>no he isn't
>yes he is

>> No.25662032

>>25661398
>Salomekeks
>knowing Mito
They’re JP chumbuds who dont even know that Salome is part of nijisanji. Nijifems should be fine. I hope

>> No.25662035

>>25662024
Yes, actually. Stop coping retard

>> No.25662039
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25662039

Go go Salome!

>> No.25662052

>>25661971
Not enough bait in the catalog to draw them out

>> No.25662054

>>25661987
Who's fault do you think it is? Since the literal creation of this thread, irs been about shitting on nijisanji, it got to the point where people use kobo for some reason to shit on vox, why are you people complaining now? I personally don't like shitposting and never did, I enjoy the threads in the dead hours after jp is done and before EN starts, but you people have no right tk complain after all the shit that you've done, you've even rinsed my fucking oshi for no reason whatsoever, why is there a Gen 1 schizo now? Why was there ever a Gen 5 schizo? Why do people use kobo to shitpost to thr point where all of her fans have become insufferable to me? And to many people too, a lot of people get turned off by her because of how her SEAnig fans act

>> No.25662060

>>25662024
are being retarded on purpose?

>> No.25662061

>>25662039
The saddest part is that people didn't even think about Mito and Kanae

>> No.25662062

>>25660948
Does she stream in Korean or Japanese?

>> No.25662063
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25662063

Saw someone posted it, the JOP literally make a list for Salome to conquer lol.

>> No.25662067

>>25661707
Was this before or after Anycolor had to shamefully take down all their claims of being the world #1 vtuber agency?

>> No.25662070

>>25662039
Already beat shion

>> No.25662085

>>25662024
>>25662035
No, google trends is just 100% useless for vtubers and similar niches
It only works for big western-centric queries with a small number of terms where google have appropriately grouped things into topics, like if you want to compare interest in baby shark and justin bieber or something

>> No.25662086

>>25662039
I'm so tired of you trend hopping faggots.

>> No.25662094

>>25662054
>why is there a Gen 1 schizo now
There isn't. There is a retard trying to get "internet clout" by becoming a pretend schizo

>> No.25662095

>>25662054
No one cares about the opinions of someone who tolerates Nijisanji. You're either the enemy or you're an ally, and it looks like you're an enemy.

>> No.25662098

How is Salome a Gura killer when Gura herself is dead already

>> No.25662102

>25662039
Almost like I can hear the barking.

>> No.25662113

>>25661314
You can't even name ONE incident that Holofans caused with Nijisanji talents outside of this fucking site.
The discord leak, Luca's retarded copyright music thing, all of this if done by Holos would cause them to get SWARMED by shitposters up to and including spamming their comments, dislike bombing, and sending them SCs about it.
Holofans mostly just prefer to stay in their lane when possible.

>> No.25662114

>>25662085
And you say it’s 10% useless for vtubers because you said so?

You need something more convincing than that fucking cope anon.

>> No.25662117

>25662024
So /jp/ is behind these shitposts?

>> No.25662122

>>25661922
Pretty sure all of them have higher ccv peaks than Salome. iirc all 4 has 140k streams in their resumes. Not like it matters when there's foul play all around, Salome could schedule a karaoke and they'll boost her ass to beat Gura's karaoke peak or go above 140k to beat some biggest concerts. At the end of the stream, nijishills would say that's the best performance they've ever had when peak 120k gura sang 10+ songs that were actually good and mindbreaking for the scene at the time. All records are rendered useless now because of the suspected boosts that it becomes so tiring.

>> No.25662123

>>25662098
Let us know when she gets to 4mil.

>> No.25662127
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25662127

Sorry Kanae, the top perch is for those with wings only

>> No.25662131

>>25662061
Of course not. Why should they care about Nijisanji?

>> No.25662141

>>25662085
>>25662114
oops I meant to say 100% but you get the idea

>> No.25662156

>>25662123
>Care about sub *only*, one of the most vanity stats
Pfft

>> No.25662159

>>25662114
Anon, like six people within a minute of each other jumped on your neck and laughed at you for pulling out Google Trends. Just accept the L and look for some real data to support your argument

>> No.25662166

>>25662113
If anything it's more likely that Holofans doing that to Holomems more than Nijimems

>> No.25662174

>>25659918
holoseethe
>>25659940
oh it's you kamitsubaki faggot, stop using the old copypasta you fucking idiot

>> No.25662175

>>25662063
>Gura not on the list
Even the Nijinigs know some walls are too high for them

>> No.25662177

So, just confirming, Salome has dethroned Gura as the fastest-to-1M VTuber, yes?

>> No.25662178

Why don't nips question her numbers or are we being fed nitpicked posts from 5ch?

>> No.25662179
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25662179

I'm still salty about Patra being denied gold last time. What about today?
>Patra lewds
onegai?

>> No.25662183

>>25662086
>In numbers thread
>So tired of numbers being posted
?

>> No.25662186

Is that what /jp/ was like in 2020?

>> No.25662188

>>25662039
Jesus this is so pathetic. As if the talents got axed just because another youtuber got more subs than them.

>> No.25662197

>>25662177
Yes I guess

>> No.25662201

>>25661423
so this is what triggers the holonigs in /#/ the hardest, huh...

>> No.25662202

>>25662177
By a large margin

>> No.25662204

Hololive should start getting a new super star in case Pekora fucked up her throat
It's been like 3 years since gen 3 debuted right?

>> No.25662210

>>25662178
Nips are a lot less bitter than /#/. Most of the posts questioning Salome's numbers /here/ aren't convincing either anyway

>> No.25662214

>>25662201
If by trigger, you mean trigger lols, yeah
It's sometimes pulled out ironically as a joke, we all laugh at it

>> No.25662217

>>25662186
no, even they weren't this mentally deranged

>> No.25662223

>>25662159
What L, I’m talking about shit that we can use to gauge shit, the entire purpose of these threads.

Are you meaning to tell me that hololyzer, something known to get shit wrong or a fucking company that got billions of users by the balls.

Unless there’s something more reliable, please tell me

>> No.25662225

>>25662178
no one is questioning her numbers
5ch, twitter or YouTube

>> No.25662227

>>25661452
So....Koyori is going all hipster 'I desuwa'd back before it became mainstream'? Still not a great look anon.

>> No.25662231

>>25662061
Salomebuds dont know anyone from nijisanji

>> No.25662235
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25662235

>>25662159
>The other monkeys beat the shit out of you for trying to climb up the ladder and take the banana. Clearly you're in the wrong.

>> No.25662236

>>25662204
Anon, there's no such thing as superstars that succeed on debut guarrenteed. Salome isn't a superstar, she's just some random Vtuber than because viral

>> No.25662237

>>25662210
>Nips are a lot less bitter than /#/
Tell me you know nothing about Japanese fans without explicitly telling me you know nothing about Japanese fans. Their schizos make the most insane people here seem like model citizens.

>> No.25662243

>>25662063
>No kizuna ai
>only holos
Definition of rentfree and small dog living on pagpag suddenly getting a good meal

>> No.25662250

>holobronies trying to push the narrative that salomefags are the same as chumbuds

Fucking wow

>> No.25662258

>>25660946
well of course.
New fans watch old VODs to catch up --> Old VODs have INSANE numbers.
They don't need to watch new VODs as much, since they're "caught up" and will watch it live.

>> No.25662268

>>25662114
It's common knowledge in the marketing field anon. I'm not going to write you an essay about it
The way they group terms into topics means you can't reliably use it to compare things unless they're something really huge (like election candidates). It's only useful for comparing interest in something to itself over time

>> No.25662274

>>25662063
Can't wait to see how toxic is her fanbase will be

>> No.25662282

>>25662250
Yeah, that is a massive insult to chumbuds to be compared to those trend hopping faggots.

>> No.25662285

>>25661368
oh my god you don't even know the nijicope
go do your reps before posting retardation, you absolute newfag

>> No.25662286

>>25662250
You're not even actually a salomate, because if you were you'd know what she called her fans. You don't watch streams, you're just a bandwagoning shitflinger

>> No.25662288

>>25662236
What's a superstar then?
HoloX had like 160k people watching their numbers and after a week, they only had 30-40k left

>> No.25662293

>>25662227
>what a funny coincidence, someone got popular using a joke that i also did a few months ago
>you fucking leech, who do you think you are
also, "not a great look?" where do you come from

>> No.25662299

>>25662235
Google trends is a black box. We have no actual data and no knowledge of what the line is actually representative of. Unless you can provide the actual data behind the graph it means nothing, it's just a line with nothing backing it up. It's not data, it's a meme.

>> No.25662300

>>25662237
And yet they understand their own market and can see Salome's virality and don't doubt her numbers like the N99 retards here, really makes you think

>> No.25662314

Reminder that youtube knee capped ASMR chuubas for this.

https://twitter.com/YouTube/status/1216450683588624384

>> No.25662321

Can Salome be the foundation for a new Nijibox? Like, Holobox is still too strong though.

>> No.25662323

>>25662288
Yes, which is a reasonable level of success. Salome's success is so fucking retarded that /#/ consistently has bot rrats about her for exactly this reason, because she isn't talented enough to deserve it

>> No.25662322
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>>25661064
Anon.
I am (You) now.

>> No.25662324

Why do symbolic numbers mind break numberfags? We could clearly see Salome reaching this point days ago, there's nitbi gparticularlt special about 1 mil even in nijisanji, yet holofags and nijifag alike are running amok here as if something insane was achieved out of nowhere

>> No.25662325

>>25662225
>>25662210
>no nips are questioning her numbers
This is not possible, at least give me their take on the situation because there's surely one or two of them being data analysts since they made numberfagging sites.

>> No.25662335

>>25661852
Culls don't seem to be a thing anymore, as they didn't effect ID 3, Ridiculous, or Salome. We don't know if they're just gone forever or it only applies to MCNs. We'd need to see a reasonably popular vtuber debut outside of Holilive or Niji to test that. The last one was Miko Cat and she wasn't culled either.

>> No.25662337

>>25661832
the japanese scene is so much more interesting than the EN scene...

>> No.25662338

>>25662323
ok but how is she not a superstar?

>> No.25662341

>>25662300
>The same retards who didn't understand CCVID was a thing until a week before it was fixed can't tell when a stream is botted
I belieb it. Japs are bad at numberfagging

>> No.25662346

>>25662321
Hololive is still too strong. Nijisanji would need like 10 more Salomes to even begin competing with them in any meaningful way if we are being honest.

>> No.25662348

>>25662324
LITERALLY NO ONE HERE GIVES A SHIT, NOT EVEN YOU

>> No.25662352
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>>25662324
>there's nitbi gparticularlt
U ok there anon?

>> No.25662353

>>25661965
Why are tourists subscribing in unprecedentedly high numbers.
Popular Niji members that have been active for years don't even have 1 million yet.
This whole situation just doesn't make any sense.

>> No.25662355

>>25662323
yeah talent = numbers, this is why avatar is the greatest movie ever made

>> No.25662358

>>25662179
I don't think there are streams today that can beat this unless king started or something like that, don't see anything on the niji side
as for the holo side, mio has a chance I guess? and maybe kobo?
if patra had hit 25k though it'd be a guaranteed gold

>> No.25662364

>>25662324
I will tell you a secret. They are shitposters who don't care for vtubing but care for numbers and shitting others

>> No.25662371

>>25661107
Yeah I'm waiting for the buyers as well, since that will be public. Gonna be fun to see who was behind this, and whether they were baiting someone or selling out.
The IPO is Tomorrow iirc?

>> No.25662372

>>25662061
Except her surpassing mito has been mentioned all the time over the internet

>> No.25662374

>>25662358
Chloe announcement should top it

>> No.25662375

>>25662321
No. Salomes whole appeal is that she's a Hololike. Trying to send people to Hoshikawa, Gundou or the other Nijiwhores would be a disaster. There's a reason Salomes youtube page has zero mention of Nijisanji anywhere on it.

>> No.25662381

>>25662337
I disagree. Japanese chuubas suck and the fact that the japanese viewers are willing to watch somebody like SaLAME shows me that they have no taste. Thank god for HoloEN.

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25662386

Meanwhile mio is going for 1M endurance tonight kek
Sad day for holos, need some endurance to get them subs

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>>25662335
ID3 is culled

>> No.25662395

>>25662374
I absolutely forgot about that even though I said a few posts back that it's chloe gold

>> No.25662393

>>25662372
In that particular image, doofus

>> No.25662400

Alright I had my fun and I'm going to sleep. Probably made a few hundred posts today, enjoyed shitposting with you faggots. Don't seethe too hard, I've never watched Salome and never will, but this thread makes it way too easy to false flag.

>> No.25662404

>>25662338
Because she isn't. She went viral because of some shitty stunt during her debut. Give it another week or two and she will be a sub 10k shitter.

>> No.25662402

>>25662355
i know what you're trying to say but it actually is though

>> No.25662406

>>25662392
>least retard holobrony

>> No.25662413

I'm loving the seethe. I waited 2 weeks for that and its been amazing.

>> No.25662416

>>25662375
Niji beat Cover at their own game. Gotta love it

>> No.25662418

>>25662321
Depends on whether her new fans, which supposedly are mostly tourists, would react well with the Niji chuubas. Remember that most go to her because of her kayfabe, which is not really done by most Niji and even Holo chuubas.

>> No.25662417

>>25662127
>>oh no don't look nijiniger nooo

Luca can't passed 6k in 7 hr ae....he

>> No.25662420

>>25661198
yeah yeah he "lost" but somehow is alive and well despite being public enemy no.1 and "losing power", after which most people who go against the system usually get a "heart attack" or a "car accident".
Don't worry, Biden is still the "president" ;)

>> No.25662432

>>25662177
She's probably one of the fastest channels to 1M besides people who were already celebrities like Jack Black, official media channels, or mercenary acquisitions with pre-existing fanbases like Ludwig, TattooMan, and DrDisrespect.

>> No.25662436

>>25662404
>2 more weeks
you can't make this up

>> No.25662441

>>25662355
You realize what thread you're in right anon
This is literally the containment general for people who watch charts instead of vtubers. The vtuber equivalent of getting hyped for the box office returns of Marvel movies

>> No.25662445

>>25662400
Anon, there is no distinction between pretending to be a retard and actually being one. People will just wait you out and then resume conversation after you left

>> No.25662451

>>25661323
Remember that one anon who was defending her mentioned MADs and Animations coming out just a day or two after her debut?
Almost as if they were ready and waiting for her?
Yeah.
First wave hype is pushed like this with certain creators. The rest will "follow the herd" so to speak.

>> No.25662452

>>25662404
Can I really believe that?

>> No.25662458

>>25662400
pretending to be retarded makes you worse than actual retards

>> No.25662465

>>25662323
Anon, since the dawn of popular streamers, not one of them became an instant virality straight through the gates. Her debut was underwhelming when compared to popular clips that made streamers popular as they are now. Ninja was popular because everyone liked his fortnite gameplays and wacky winning montage. xQc was an overwatch pro and he has retarded moments due to adhd that made him entertaining. Jun/hikakin were retarded, wacky and stupid that made the japanese love them after years.

Now, all the nijifags here are telling me that she was entertaining enough just through kayfabe, language humor and a gastrocopy test to earn a 90k median through all of her re7 streams? Yeah, no, that's highly suspicious and up for questions/debate. Even more so when there's a clear motive (IPO) nearby.

>> No.25662475
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>>25662413
Imagine the state of these threads when she starts passing old guard Holos like Miko.

>> No.25662478

>>25661905
And you know how Twitter "trends" have such tags with low viewcounts yeah? Totally legit stuff.

Someone is pushing her, HARD. Someone with a lot of hold over both Youtube and Twitter. Exciting times.

>> No.25662479

>>25662186
If every other vtuber was in Holo's current position and Salome was Hololive then yes. And people still think gatekeeping was the wrong answer.

>> No.25662480

Why did Salome get such a huge initial boost to views with no marketing or build up to her debut? It's very suspicious.

>> No.25662485

>>25662392
That isn't "ID3 being culled". Viewer cull is on the viewer side, not the streamer. In that sense Salome is also "culled" because some of the people watching her won't show up, and we'll never know how many. She almost certainly will never do a poll because, well, you know. I assumed the guy talking about cull mean debut sub cull, which ID3 did not get.

>> No.25662494

>>25661398
Mito is not even 900k so she's not really considered something to overcome, just a speed bump.

>> No.25662493

>>25662420
Isn't it tiring to always pretend to be the victim?

>> No.25662499

Holy shit I feel so light headed playing RPG for 10 hours straight
So I see she did it huh? The thread seem calmer than I thought

>> No.25662504

>>25662465
Report it to a regulating authority with the proof compiled in the previous threads. If they find Anycolor or Salome as foul play, then everyone can laugh at their fall. If nothing happens then nothing happens.

>> No.25662505 [DELETED] 

>>25662475
Anon, based on current trajectory that's a foregone conclusion and I'll even be bolder: she might beat both Pekora and Marine to 2M.

Actually her numbers are in such a trajectory now that what would ACTUALLY shake this thread would be if she slows down

>> No.25662515

>>25662480
She says desu wa. You need a very high IQ to understand the popularity of Hyakumantenbara Salome

>> No.25662516

10k+ ccv

Yesterday

>niji 2
>hololive 13

>> No.25662518

>>25662179
possible since all the big ones are taking break at the same fucking time again
tonight's schedule is dead as fuck the only stream that can possibly break 20k would be Mio celebration

>>25662374
everyone already know what the announcement is it won't attract tourists
just look at gozaru's numbers before the funnel

>> No.25662530

>>25662499
Nobody cared. The illusion of malding was nothing more than a couple of shitposters doing overtime and responding to each other over and over with cheap bait

>> No.25662532

>>25662478
Yeah, it's clear that with the IPO announcement that Riku is out and Nijisanji has some big deal corporate big wigs running the show now. They are throwing around their influence hard right now.

Honestly it just makes me want to root and support Hololive even harder than before. Fuck everything that is going on with Nijisanji right now. It all feels dirty.

>> No.25662537

>>25661559
> Nijicope #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>

>> No.25662538

>>25662505
>she might beat both Pekora and Marine to 2M
I think it's almost guaranteed with both of them on break and not coming back soon. Salome is also going to get a boost from hitting 1M and breaking records, you'll get a lot of tourists coming in.

>> No.25662544

Can't anyone here check out the quote tweets from Fubuki congratulating Salome.
The whole thing is filled with many making fun of Fubuki right now it's not even funny anymore. That girl has enough harassment from the Chinese already.

>> No.25662555

>>25661987
this is the thread culture you numberniggers cultivated. now that your tribe is getting its ass kicked you can't cry about it, so either cry about it or fuck off.

>> No.25662556

>>25662465
>>25662480
>Hmmmm, how can someone have [big number] when majority have [smaller number]? I am very smart

>> No.25662559

>>25662532
Today primetime is going to be fun. Odd Salome will get more tourist today just to hear her talk about 1 Million

>> No.25662564

>>25662504
This. Why don't bronies report this to YouTube or Niji investors?
If your arguments are reasonable then they should take you seriously

>> No.25662567

>>25662544
Nice try with your humblebrag zhang

>> No.25662574

>>25661778
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>

>> No.25662579

>>25662480
The weirdness of being a solo debut that people thought was a joke explains some of it. How people who don't watch streamers or vtubers wandered into her debut is a little less clear.

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It's actually hilarious watching the "people" in this thread who pinned their entire mental wellbeing for years on the vtuber company they watch having more viewers than their competitors get absolutely crushed.

>> No.25662590
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Holoshills fear the google trends.

>> No.25662593

>>25662538
Honestly I didn't saw this coming. Well at least that will spare them the Holo vs Holo battle, I don't want to see PekoMari of all people being pitched against each other

>> No.25662599

Shouldn't Cover just open up to big shot investors? Anykara did and they fucking incline.

>> No.25662608

>>25662582
Why? Half of those posts are falseflags set by you, and the other half are flaseflags set by some other asshole

>> No.25662613

>>25662555
For all the hype around Salome she's only just barely managed to make it past Miko twice and the rest of the Nijishitters are wallowing around below 10k.

>> No.25662615

>>25662186
>Is that what /jp/ was like in 2020?
No, for two reasons:
1. Hololive slowly crept past Nijisanji in popularity. There was no need for shitposts or coping because it took years and everyone understood why it happened
2. Nijisanji fans were seething about Hololive back when they were literal 2views for whatever reason, it wasn't even sour grapes from their growth that led to the tribalism

>> No.25662619

>>25662505
I mean, people expected her to smash the time-to-1million record, yet look what's happening to the board now that it actually happened.

>> No.25662620

>>25662582
See this >>25662516

We are fine. Hololive is #1 by a long shot so we don't feel threatened at all. We are just wondering where these Salome faggots are coming from and if they are even real.

>> No.25662628

>>25662582
based Watamenumberfag, they're even worst than the console warriors on /v/

>> No.25662633

>>25662599
Retard
Salome incline because of her own talents, not because of the investor
In fact they get investor because they are inclining, not the other way around

>> No.25662639

>>25661869
not really, if Cover was going IPO, suddenly did an unprecedented solo debut that got insane numbers, holofags would be the first to call it out.

>> No.25662644

>>25662465
you got to admit though, showing your own gastroscopy test for the whole world to see is quite unhinged

I do get where you're coming from, but if the folks down at 5ch aren't even suspicious of her numbers then I guess we should just accept that she is an extraordinarily well-received VTuber in JP.

>> No.25662646

>>25662599
No, that would be the quickest way to run the company into the ground. They already have investors, but being publicly traded is a bad idea unless people just want to cash out.

>> No.25662650

>>25662615
So all of the hatred shown here is just them trying to get back at Hololive then?

>> No.25662651

>>25662620
Of course they're not real, Salome is a fucking JP. No one here is Japanese, it's nothing but larpers jumping on a bandwagon because it's cool to be an asshole apparently.

>> No.25662675

>>25662054
>all of her fans have become insufferable to me
Well then the problem is within yourself. Only a handful of Kobo fans acts like that, they shit on here, catalog, ID general thread, and even their own /ehe~/
Most of her fans or ID fans in general are okay but you choose to generalize and hates her before you even bother to check her.
You're as pathetic as them, you have the potential to be like them once you found your own toy.

>> No.25662676

>>25662599
>Should've Cover just let the chinks buy big slices of their company on the open market
Absolutely not. Enjoy your vtubers being turned into CCP shills.

>> No.25662685

>>25662651
>Liking and watching a vtuber is being an asshole now
Well shit, sorry man

>> No.25662687

>>25662620
>Care about anything other than the top
Pfft

>> No.25662700

>>25662620
I already do a survey post here and there's no unironic Salome fan here
People here only care for her number

>> No.25662703

>>25662564
Because they know their evidence isn't enough to prove anything. Anons on 5ch don't even believe she's botted. TW anons are laughing at people ITT and calling it all cope.
If the evidence was really enough, someone, whether it be the anon's here, or on 5ch, or anywhere else, would have submitted it all to a regulator and they would have been the judge.
Nothing has been submitted and if it has, no one has mentioned it.

>> No.25662704

>>25662644
Anon, for the past years, streamers had done even weirder things than that, eventually getting them banned, clipped for history to see. That's the thing about 5ch, I don't get why they aren't questioning it. Do they live in a bubble or is their streamer scene that underdeveloped?

>> No.25662705

>>25662685
You aren't a real salomate.

>> No.25662707

>>25662650
No, it's just people shitposting for attention. There aren't many actual Niji JP fans and they mostly stay in their own threads. If Vshoujo suddenly started getting 50k viewers you'd find "Vshoujo fans" coming out of the woodwork everywhere to shitpost.

>> No.25662709

>>25662615
No the reason is that was barely Nijifags on 4chan and general being general, you can't post about other companies without getting your posts deleted. Fans of the 2 companies may hate each other but generally there were not many big wars
The company war only got big when NijiEN was created

>> No.25662720

Looking at the streams right now, why is Kanae the only one having over 10k? Why didn't the new audience watch more Niji?

>> No.25662725

>>25662178
Not a very "suspicious" culture in general.
Same reason they buy whatever Nintendo sells even if it's dogshit from a customer perspective.
They leave their laptops and shit lying around and there's an expectation that it'll be there when they get back.
Perks of living in an actual first world country I guess.

>> No.25662726

>>25662544
Any attempt to leech from Hololive should be mocked and treated with disdain

>> No.25662727

>>25662687
You say as if Nijifag didn't make the same argument back then...

>> No.25662728

>>25662613
funny that right after my post someone posted the perfect response to this cope >>25662556

>> No.25662736

>>25662615
>Nijisanji fans were seething about Hololive back when they were literal 2views for whatever reason
oy vey we dindu nuffing, it's all their fault we wuz kicked out of 109 boards!

>> No.25662738

>>25662650
Mostly yes. They've been shit on for so long and this is their first big opportunity to sink the boot in themselves. Saying "get back at" is a bit of a misnomer though since as >>25662615 pointed out Nijifags hated Hololive even back when Sora was trying to claw her way to 20k subs. They just attracted that kind of audience and the fact they've been a distant second for so long has really hurt their mental state.

Keep in mind the most virulent Hololive antis are strong Nijisanji fans

>> No.25662741

What's gets me is that with all Salome posting is Mikos WWE arc getting 90k viewers is somehow going under the radar. It's fucking amazing for a chuuba that old to be getting that sort of number but no ones really talking much about it.

>> No.25662743

>>25662703
I find it telling that you feel the need to discredit evidence with 'they're laughing at you on 5ch, you're so pathetic for thinking about things' as if that means shit to us

>> No.25662744

>>25662593
This, this so much. It was kinda getting boring having Pekora and Marine dominating daily with the only things breaking the monotony being whichever other Holo had a 3D/announcement/hosted collab. Salome now presents a narrative of a looming dominating presence for the Holos to have to compete against that they haven't had in over two years.

Maybe in a few months I'll be as tired with Salome domination as I am with Pekora and Marine currently but for now in the present, I am loving what Salome presents to the competition.

>> No.25662749

>>25662727
And Niji suffered for a while. Now they have returned and taken back their throne

>> No.25662762

>>25662608
>EVERYTHING IS A FALSEFLAG
do holobronies really?

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>>25662705
I don't see much point in proving that I watch her stuff be here you are anyway

>> No.25662766

>>25662743
If your evidence is so convincing then why don't you sent them to YouTube or Niji investors then?

>> No.25662774

>>25662480
The huge initial boost isnt really suspicious. Its keeping those numbers that make no sense.

>> No.25662776

>>25662744
Well, maybe a little bit too big of a competition
But I was mostly worried that people would use Marine to shit on Pekora or the other way around

>> No.25662782

>>25662039
The total views are in line with their subs except for Ayame and Suisei kek.

>> No.25662796

Anyways, to finally clear the google trends stuff up. Because the anon calling it a black box triggered me, when it's no more of a black box than how Youtube calculates CCV.

Topics = google combines all the search terms they feel are similar across languages.
Search terms = Any searches that include the specific string.

So the chart that google trends anon posted ONLY shows that more people specifically search using a string that includes "にじさんじ” more than "ホロライブ". Some people just use にじホロ, some people just use individual names, etc. You can compare the topic and search term for Nijisanji to see how useless the topic is. You can see it very clearly from
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?gprop=youtube&q=%E3%81%AB%20%E3%81%98%20%E3%81%95%E3%82%93%20%E3%81%98,%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96,%E3%82%8B%E3%81%97%E3%81%82

And because I know some people are going to go the extra mile to be morons, the number you see on the chart is the percentage of the maximum that ever appeared on the time range you select.

>> No.25662797

>>25662741
Why? Salome can get 100k for RE7. Any number under 100k is worthless now, the floor for regular gaming streams is now set as 90k for all Vtubers.

>> No.25662800

>>25662650
I doubt many of the old Niji tribalists from those days are still here. If they are they'll still be on /jp/, they wouldn't be seen dead on this board

>>25662709
Obviously the vtuber crowd on here was tiny back then, but they would seethe about people posting hololive in the vtuber general (note vtuber general, not niji general) even though talking about 774 or whoever was fine.
If we're being honest I think they were just trying to ape the JP Niji fans' behavior because they desperately wanted to be Japanese

>> No.25662808

>>25662743
Then do something with that evidence? I said it before, submit it to a relevant party like niji investors or YouTube and we will ALL see what happens.
If you truly believe the evidence is conclusive in pointing out fraud, then show it to people that it matters to.

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...oh man. Throughout my numberfagging days, most of the time numbers have correlated to quality. If something was good, it'd have numbers. If something didn't have numbers, it would usually be either not that good, or just "decent".
For the first time I seem to be experiencing the disconnect between numbers and quality with this absolute kino of a song.

>> No.25662815

The big question is will Cover have anything in the future.
Hololive Summer might be the biggest chance to take back the fame. Or releasing the alpha build of HoloEarth to the public might be good as well.

>> No.25662823

>>25662687
>Care about anything other than the top
I'll use a baseball example

Mike Trout is the best player in baseball and yet the team he is on (Angels) haven't made the playoffs in years and are currently in the midst of a 12 game losing stream. They suck because despite having the best player the rest of the team sucks, the front office sucks, and the coaches suck. Contrast this with the Tampa Bay Rays. They don't have a single superstar on the team, yet they have been one of the best teams over the last couple years. They even made it all the way to the World Series 2 years ago.

Having a balanced team that compliments and supports each other is always going to beat out having a couple superstars trying to prop up a bunch of shitters.

Mike Trout (Angels) = Salome
Shohei Ohtani (Angels) = Kuzuha
Tampa Bay Rays = The Holobox

>> No.25662824

Which vtubers do you watch?

http://poal.me/9tjjgq
http://poal.me/9tjjgq
http://poal.me/9tjjgq

>> No.25662828

>>25662615
>>25662738
we dindu nuffin, we wuz innocent. the nijiniggas jumped our crew first cuh

>> No.25662835

>>25662186
Global and cumbuds were annoying but this is worse. Well at least this time they don't spam Holo's chat yet

>> No.25662843

>>25662764
Trend Hopping faggot

>> No.25662846

So, just so we’re clear since I keep hearing niji niji niji in thread everytime salome does something
How many nijis have actually inclined in subs since her debut? How many have increased their views? ccv? Just curious. Because everytime she’s talked about it’s centralized around niji but I don’t even think niji has actually gained anything

>> No.25662857

>>25662823
Don't bother, these shitposter won't listen to reason
Just let them have their time, it will at least spare the thread from the timeloop

>> No.25662863

>>25662823
Let me use basketball to show how dumb you are.

People care about Steph Curry, no one gives a shit about the rest of the Warriors. That's why they got big, because of Curry.

>> No.25662872

>>25662321
Anon Salome doesn't even feel like she is part of Nijisanji. She is out of the box right now.

>> No.25662873

>>25662113
>Holofans mostly just prefer to stay in their lane when possible.
Until the Line crash with nijisanji, just look up false eye video about salome and read the comment selection from top to bottom and you Will always find that one comment trying to manipulator people to hating nijifan with so many like, even i as nijifan always see this and its honest sad that nijifan can't say anything good about their own vtuber without asshole getting trigger for a fact that, they celebrate for nijisanji and not hololive

>> No.25662883

>>25662846
nari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVC4Dq9AEqY

>> No.25662887

>>25662808
>>25662766
Salome can get away with botting, why the fuck should I report it?

I couldn't care less about whether or not Nijisanji is botting. I just hate people arguing without data, and decided to use data to shut them up

>> No.25662898

So...what would happen if Niji fans spam Mio's chat today? Would it happen?

>> No.25662897

>>25662796
this is a holothread and numbers that make holos look bad are just black box/chink/bots/false data

>> No.25662899

>>25662843
>You don't watch her!
>*Show proof*
>T-trend hopping faggot
I don't what to say anon. I don't think it's my responsibility to apologize for liking something however. Hope you get over it soon.

>> No.25662901

>>25662813
Sad...I'll give it a few listens as well anon. I don't watch Roboco much but I have similar feelings with regards to Mel.

>> No.25662905

>>25662800
The Hololive fanbase at that time was already really big though.
I mainly talked about the Hololive and Niji generals on /jp/. There was some hatred but both fanbase generally didn't really care about each other, especially on the numberfagging side, it's mostly holo-holo rather than holo-niji

>> No.25662906

>>25662156
zzzz

>> No.25662916

By the way, anyone gonna comment on how Kanata completely changed her style of content now? Now she is pure coomerbaiting

>> No.25662917

>>25662863
>Klay Thompson
>Draymond Green
>Andre Iguodala
>FUCKING KEVIN DURANT
Yeah, you are dumb

>> No.25662918

>>25662873
You aren't a nijifan lol, you're a bandwagon hopping trend follower

>> No.25662923

>>25662898
>Would it happen?
Likely not

>> No.25662925

>>25662898
No.

>> No.25662930

>ホロは2019年末まではにじさんじと仲良くコラボしまくってたくせに
>にじさんじより強くなった途端にコラボしなくなって
>そんでサロメが現れてからはまた擦り寄ってくんの最低だよな

Nijibros please forgive us..

>> No.25662936

At this point, can we say Nijisanji has a bigger fanbase globally, or the court is still in Hololive's favor?

>> No.25662939

>>25662887
Well that means your evidence isn't convincing enough then

>> No.25662940

>>25662930
perish

>> No.25662944

>>25662898
>3.5 years to get 1M
What a failure

>> No.25662945
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25662945

>Debut solo
>Crush all numbers and numberfags
>Break mainstream news
>Acknowledged by senpais and rivals from other companies
>Set new record
> 1 million tweets is her introducing herself again
This arc is the best arc

>> No.25662948

>>25662899
You are what you are. Liking popular new things basically outs you as nothing but a mindless shill

>> No.25662955

>>25661078
>>25661237
>>25662322
Same poster btw. All me.

>> No.25662958

>>25662936
I don't know. How is NijiEN?
Because so far Salome only show us that they have a big JP fanbase

>> No.25662959

>>25662930
kys

>> No.25662966

>>25662936
still Hololive, Niji could be bigger in Japan but I'm not sure about that

>> No.25662971

>>25662936
Niji is bigger ceiling for events but for daily streaming Hololive has a much larger footprint.

>> No.25662975

>>25662958
They don't, it's all tourists and they're all just there for her

>> No.25662976

>>25662948
And what if I continue enjoying her years beyond?

>> No.25662981
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25662981

>>25662883
>One single stream
ok anon

>> No.25662986

>>25662620
She's being pushed on Japanese Youtube recommended, and does not go away.
Every single one of her streams.
There's a reason her audience is NEW for every single stream.
And of course, no sub culls or spiky graphs.

Question should be, why is Youtube pushing her? Who is behind her?
Is she a coded message for something that's about to hit with the Japanese Royal Family or something?

>> No.25662995

The only thing that can make Salome bigger is having xQc react to her. I wonder what he would think since she is beating his viewership.

>> No.25662997

>>25662774
Yeah, somehow keeping an extremely close CCV to debut is ridiculous.
Keeping even 1/3 of your debut CCV is a huge accomplishment since only a handful could do that.
There was no build up to her popularity, straight out the gate she kept it up.
She also somehow brought in a whole bunch of people who don't watch other vtubers immediately on debut when no one else has done this.
More than that though, all of these new people are subbing to her and only her.
Why are these new people deciding to give her a sub when tourists are the least likely to do this?

>> No.25663002

>>25662615
>>25662650
>>25662709
>>25662738
You guys know that JP is archived right?
>>/jp/thread/S18638215

1/300 posts being shitposts about x vtuber passing y vtuber in subs is not "hatred". The entire split started because fans of Hololive kept chatposting about streams and asking questions clearly showing they had 0 clue about Japanese.

>> No.25663001

>>25662615
>>25662738
lol.

>> No.25663003

>>25662976
I'll believe you're a real fan when you're the only fan left. That's what you get for liking FotM

>> No.25663012

>>25662936
? I mean, Salome's extremely popular that's true, but her popularity is quite heavily concentrated in JP currently.

>> No.25663013

>>25662936
definitely nijisanji, HoloEN is only big in poor countries like the Philippines whereas nijiEN is popular in super powers like china and canada.

>> No.25663019

>>25662930
Even nips figured that out...

>> No.25663025

>>25662823
This is actually a fantastic post that explains the situation perfectly but most people here are too sissy to actually get sports so it will fly over their head.

>> No.25663027

>>25662986
>Who is behind her?
Youtube Japan

>> No.25663034

>>25662930
They killed 27&JK and think they deserve a second chance.

Actually shameless.

>> No.25663042

>>25662936
Niji:
>CN / TW
>JP
>KR
Holo:
>ID
>Dying Western market
I'd say Niji win

>> No.25663045

>>25662971
Holy cope. Is this still what Holofaggot think after the mogging Salome gave you all?

>> No.25663059

>>25663002
Anon, that's a thread from before hololive gen 1 debuted. I don't disagree that everyone was cool when it was just Sora

>> No.25663064

>>25662930
They're about as aware as you are.
Which isn't good.

>> No.25663069

>>25662323
I always hate this "talent" term, if people having number = talent, then some of nijisanji vtuber would be bigger that they are now, its always about luck and not about talent, if talking to chat = talent then vtuber would be bigger that 4m sub

>> No.25663078

>>25662824
Yeah there's barely anyone in here, like 12 people probably 5 of which are just posting on cooldown.

>> No.25663079

>>25663025
it will immediately stop working if you switch to basketball

>> No.25663085

>>25662936
You have to be braindead to think Niji has the bigger fanbase globally. Gura has almost 4m subs. Many don't tune in to for streams, don't even watch vods, or are literal children, but that's still 4 million people that once upon a time decided to sub. There is no disputing that Holo has reached more people globally than Niji.

>> No.25663087

>>25663003
a bit extreme but alright. How is anything allowed to exist if being liked when being new is a bad thing? Should people just not watch the first season of a tv show and wait until season because they are otherwise a "trend hopper"?

>> No.25663092

>>25662930
> collabing with Niji usually resulted in nijifans spamming your chat or talking shit under your twitter tag.
> niji and several other JP companies stopped Holo collabs after the chinkout to keep themselves save.
> They are somehow blaming HOLO for this
Nijiniggers are almost as worse as chinks.

>> No.25663094

>>25662936
>>25663042
Tourists.

>> No.25663097

>>25662936
Where do these giant retards come from
How can you even possibly conceive that niji is bigger globally? Hololive has the biggest EN vtubing scene by a mile, the biggest ID vtubing scene by a thousand miles, the biggest JP scene that nothing even compares to, and to top it off, a KR scene that while not the largest by any means, has garnished clips in the millions and has a fucking song sung by Gura that’s reached over a million views.

How can you possibly think 1 person who’s fanbase is completely centralized in just Japan is somehow making a company the most global vtuber agency

>> No.25663099

>>25663042
KEK. Holo chose wrong. Literally all the market that are worth nothing as far as ad revenue and merch sales are concern

>> No.25663100

To this day I still don’t understand the mindless hate between Niji and Holo
It’s all so dumb

>> No.25663102

Reminder: This is what Salome's 100k CCV is worth, compared to Vox's 10k and Chloe's 12k.

Salome
>9k Superchats
https://playboard.co/en/video/9RUaxQXQzwc

Vox
>15k Superchats
https://playboard.co/en/video/PBb9YtkPBV0

Chloe
>14k Superchats
https://playboard.co/en/video/wo-tD47me1o

>> No.25663104

>>25663002
most of the flipniggers who post about "holofans getting bullied" don't realize it was newfags and eops getting bullied by oldfags.

>> No.25663111
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25663111

>current stand
Will today be a mythical sub 20k day?

>> No.25663112

>>25663087
wait until season 2*

>> No.25663116

>>25663002
>The entire split started because fans of Hololive kept chatposting about streams and asking questions clearly showing they had 0 clue about Japanese.
Basically any /jp/sie reacting naturally to getting invaded by EOPs and newfags means that they only acted that way because they hated Hololive and love Nijisanji and not because they were /jp/sies getting invaded by EOPs and newfags. Or so /vt/ interprets it.

>> No.25663126

>>25662930
Actually I am curious, why do Holo's have less collabs with Niji now? When did it start? Was it when they began to shift to having an idol group perspective?

>> No.25663129

>>25663087
Only start liking things before or after they're popular, yes. Starting to like something at the peak of its popularity is the same as saying you're just there for the numbers

>> No.25663128

>>25663092
>Nijiniggers are almost as worse as chinks
Anon, Nijikeks ARE zhangs

>> No.25663131

>>25663097
Who? Did these literal whos get to 1M in 2 weeks? No? Then they aren't worth shit

>> No.25663136

>matsuri will overlap haato
but I thought they made up? I understand it's a premiere but I'm sure festival will have some class to push it an hour later, right holobros?

>> No.25663148

It's so tiring lately, when there's a niji intern here deflecting all of the arguments with

>Report it to YT or niji investors
Since they know we can't, and those guys won't listen to 4chan
>Salome is popular in Japan
When her numbers isn't funneled to other niji streams and that all the nijis aren't experiencing an influx or increase in subs and ccv despite salome bringing in a new audience. 4 years into the scene and only 2 4 year old vtuber reached 1M, then comes another vtuber who got to 1M in 14 days
>5ch or TW sites aren't questioning it because they believe it is true
The bot rrat was of course stupid, but her growth should be up for debate at the least. How many shills are there in every site to deflect any topics questioning her growth?

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25663152

>>25663002
yeah sure, just a coincidence that Holo OPs and even some holo posts were getting deleted in the leadup to the split.

>> No.25663153

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyU9RmlqyY
Number prediction for Chloe's karaoke plus announcement?

>> No.25663154

>>25663111
Nah, Chloe's announcement will easily get that

>> No.25663157

>>25663092
>collabing with Niji usually resulted in nijifans spamming your chat or talking shit under your twitter tag
Based oldfag

>> No.25663161

>>25663111
nope, chloe opened up to 7k people
plus announcement buff, that's at least a 25k stram

>> No.25663162

>>25663111
Where's KING when you need him? Apex clearly represents vtubers more than ASMR.

>> No.25663164
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25663164

>>25663126
it shifted when they started getting numbers and they abandoned old friends.

>> No.25663173

>>25663126
I am always curious about that Pekora collab with the Himawari girl
What exactly was it? I have seen a lot of people talked about it and how Pekora can save Himawari

>> No.25663179

>>25663100
>>25663116

>> No.25663196

>>25663126
>>25663128

>> No.25663201

>>25663100
As in all cases, when 13% of posters commit 50% of the shitposting... you have to look at the common link.

>> No.25663204

>>25663126
It started after the taiwan yab. Nijisanji is dependent on China so they stopped collabing with Holo so as to not piss off their Chinese masters.

>> No.25663206

>>25663102
Who gives a shit about chump change SCs? If we assume sponsors pay $1 per ccv per hour, then someone like Salome would rake in $100k per hour

>> No.25663207

>>25662823
Baseball, baseketball, football, and presumably soccer are all quite different. There's only so much 1 good player can do in baseball since their ability to interact on any given play depends on them either batting or being part of the active play area in the field. Pitchers are important but they don't even play every game. In basketball having 1 good player is immensely important since they can be involved constantly. Same with a good QB in football since they can be involved in upwards of 30% of plays.

>> No.25663208

>>25663148
I'll only address this one.
>They know we can't, and those guys won't listen to 4chan
Give it to someone that has even minor influence then? Hell, give it to a dramatuber like Korekore who's big enough and can actually do something.
Why can't you do anything with it? Seriously there are so many people you can possibly report it to.

>> No.25663215

>>25662917
Lel, Nijisanji is more like current Mavs than Dubs

>> No.25663225

>>25663126
>Was it when they began to shift to having an idol group perspective?
Anon, the whole industry distanced from Holos after the chinkout, it became a “holo or china, pick one”.

>> No.25663233

>>25663126
Because they can't leech off them anymore, as soon as Salome came along they showed their true colours again

>> No.25663237

>>25663111
Isn't Salami streaming today?

>> No.25663239

>>25663126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX9kuXL0ZhM

>> No.25663245

>>25663152
Yes anon, clearly these schizos represent the best of the fanbases.

>>/jp/?ghost=yes&search_op=all&search_int=dontcare&search_res=post&task=search2&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_del=dontcare&search_username=best%20of%20cute&offset=144

>> No.25663246

>>25663126
hololive is jewish in nature like >>25663233 implied

>> No.25663257

>>25663206
This is the most blatant bait (you) have ever written. Actually, just, fucking wow, this is a high level falseflag

>> No.25663263

>>25663237
I don’t know honestly. I don’t even follow her schedule. Sometime her stream count for tomorrow, sometime for today
Either way she will get gold today or tomorrow, it’s 50/50

>> No.25663270

>>25663237
Yes. Easy 200k with the 1M buff and EOP buff

>> No.25663273

>>25663126
Retards will say it was the Taiwan yab, but there was already a decline in NijiHolo collabs after Holo started experiencing rapid growth because of Coco, Nigga, and Scatman.

>> No.25663278

>>25663208
Because the data is unreliable due to the way YT works at the moment. We only have unique chats, but a viewers list like on twitch could easily prove the bot rrat easier.

>> No.25663283

>>25663207
You still need good teammates even in the other sports. How many titles did Michael Jordan have until the Bulls decided to put a team around him? None. How many titles did Lebron have before he took his talents to South Beach and surrounded himself with a super team? None. How many Super Bowls does Aaron Rodgers have despite winning a million MVPs? Only one.

>> No.25663284

>>25663207
>Baseball, Basketball, American Football, and presumably Football
fixed

>> No.25663294

>>25663273
It wasn't jist nijiholo >>25663164

>> No.25663302

Ah so we also have collab beggar now?
>Something is bad because they aren’t collating with other company

>> No.25663303

I'm actually interested in Vshoujo Japan. First in whether or not they get KSon and then in whether they try to stream mostly on twitch or youtube. I don't see any easy way to integrate it with regular Vshoujo, when Vshoujo itself isn't even very connected, and none of them speak Japanese.

>> No.25663309

>>25663273
it's literally because there were more holos and in-house collabs are easier to setup
and it's the explanation that's been given every time
that's it

>> No.25663311

>>25663208
I don’t know exactly what you guys are talking about but KoreKore just recently received a guy claiming to be harassed by Holo girls, and his proof was literally the voices in his head.
I don’t think going from “saw it on 4chan” to “saw it on KoreKore” would make any argument stronger

>> No.25663316

Can Riku save Luna, Matsuri and Robocco?

>> No.25663323

>>25663311
that guy sounds like me

>> No.25663325

>>25663303
No fucking way Kson join. She got out of a corpo once and you think she will just join another corpo?

>> No.25663340

>>25663316
If save you mean harass and destroy their careers, no because Yagoo won't let it happen

>> No.25663343

>>25663246
>Holo vs Niji is actually a proxy war between western jewery and sino jewery

>> No.25663347

>>25662918
Kys bitch, i'm nijifan since Sasaki and Belmon romance arc!

>> No.25663350

>>25663273
There was also a decline in Hololive stream time and internal collabs after Holo started experiencing rapid growth
It's because they were spending all their time doing vocal coaching, dance practice, recording, rehearsals, etc, so if they did have time to squeeze in a collab it would be whoever they could get with the least effort, usually a genmate

>> No.25663352

>>25663208
The sad thing is they did listen to us during CCVID because this thread had it all worked out long before everyone else, but the quality of this place degraded so much over the past 5 months with now being spammed by baseless bot accusations that they'll never trust us again if these retards go away and we dig up a new trend (that's actually real)

>> No.25663351

>>25663316
Lol no
Riku got his own girls to save

>> No.25663358

>>25663129
That's rather dumb, it seems. If you like something then the circumstances around it are secondary. You shouldn't have to avoid what you like because of appearance to others, especially those that have no part of your life. Whether you think I am a trend hopper or not is not going to make me lose any sleep but I am just curious of the argument you would present. I guess I will always in my lifetime be a trend hopper to you, anon.

>> No.25663365

>>25663311
>Luna
Why would he want a traitor back?

>> No.25663366

>>25663316
try saving the rest of your fucking company first

>> No.25663370

>>25663311
That was merely an example, there are others that have a louder voice than "the voices of 4chan".

>> No.25663371

Nari is having the motherload of all inclines and all you fags care about is coping about salomes numbers.

shes at 6.1k right now

>> No.25663376

>>25663325
Vshoujo isn't much a corporation. You own your own assets and keep your own earnings. I'm not sure they'll do that on the JP side though, since they're not indebted to investors and need to make more income. They might just debut a whole wave/gen of traditional vtubers which they own the complete rights to.

>> No.25663382

>>25663316
cover is a black company, look at the discrepancy between roboco and Pekora and you'll see that the company just eats up each others viewership. nijisanji in the other hand has everyone watching 3D streams.

>> No.25663386

>>25663316
matsuri should graduate along with her shitty gen members

>> No.25663394

>>25663237
Yes but she will count for tomorrow unless she starts early (which is very possible today)

>> No.25663397
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25663397

>>25663206

>> No.25663405

>>25662981
Come on now, the jap just found her

>> No.25663407

>>25663352
This is wrong, We have quite a lot of data, and we can get more. The problem with Salome and the bot rrat is that we literally have only had a week to build up evidence. If we had like a month to work out the data we could probably prove it true.

>> No.25663408

>>25663382
get better bait retard

>> No.25663416

>>25663376
Either way I can’t see Kson joining it. What kind of benefit would they bring to her? She is already pretty stable and I can’t imagine joining Vshojo would boost her much

>> No.25663418

No big event tonight?

>> No.25663417

>>25663371
stop shilling her in this thread, go back to your thread you retard. she doesn't deserve these numberniggers

>> No.25663425

>>25663325
Vshojo is basically outsourced management and merchandising for indies, which I'm sure she's already done like literally every streamer with an audience that size

>> No.25663427

>>25663316
>Luna
Lmao

>> No.25663428

>>25663316
>Luna
Kek

>> No.25663431

>>25663371
I asked earlier if she streamed in Japanese or Korean and did not get an answer. If she's streaming in Korean, on youtube, and getting that number it's impressive. Less impressive if it's twitch. Completely irrelevant if she's streaming in Japanese. It's good for her personally, but has no real meaning or implications beyond that.

>> No.25663450

>>25663418
Big events today are Chloe announcement, haachama anniversary (but it's a premiere so it won't count) and mio 1M endurance
Of course there's also Salome's first stream after hitting 1M but that will be after midnight

>> No.25663461

>>25663418
There’s Salome
At this point not like any big event gonna beat Salome. It’s insane, it’s like her number just adjusted itself to specifically beat all big events

>> No.25663490

>>25663407
The real question is, are you going to do anything with it? Or give it to someone that can do something with it? Or is it going to just rot here forever?
As long as nothing is being done, it will continue to be called cope, especially because people like to tout that this is a hololive board and these are hololive threads.
And no, I'm not dismissing said evidence, I just want something to be done with it once it's all compiled.

>> No.25663492

>>25663418
salome(maybe), haachama (premiere sadly), mio and chloe

>> No.25663496

>>25663418
Me and my friends are going to sacrifice an animal at an altar to speed up Pekora's return.

>> No.25663497

>>25663309
We even had Tamaki literally say on stream that he'd still do more holo collabs but the scheduling is just too difficult with how busy they are now

>> No.25663498

The chinks at NGA must be laughing right now seeing tha state of Hololive

>> No.25663510

>>25663316
>Luna
lol
>Roboco
Her number is higher than half of Riku's roster
>Matsuri
You can take her

>> No.25663536

>>25663496
Today mark the 30th day since Pekora officially announce her break
I only know this cause there’s a bunch of nousagi drawing comic everyday until her return. Man I love being in the same fanbase as these people

>> No.25663549
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NOOOOOOOOOO! MY PATRA GOLD!

>> No.25663553

>>25663102
https://playboard.co/en/video/PhGYWJOgDXs
>771 peak CCV, $5.4k SC
Hmmm it's almost as if those two stats don't correlate

>> No.25663565

Is there any tribalism between Asmongold, XQC and Ibai?

>> No.25663577

>>25663549
patra will probably get bronze anon so you're free to post wonderful patra lewds if you want

>> No.25663588

>>25663431
it's japanese and the stream involves drawing all the nijisanji members
she already had one of these "inclines" before and returned below 1k

>> No.25663590
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25663590

>>25663565

>> No.25663591

>>25663565
Yes, face streamers on twitch have tribalism, and much like here it's a lot of people posting bait and memes and a handful of schizos who take it seriously

>> No.25663592

>Check Salome's sub count
>It's now at 1.02m
Did JPs unironically shout "ACCELERATE" in unison now? It's going even faster.

>> No.25663594

>>25663352
The bot rrat started because Luxiem was having strange graphs starting April then it went on for weeks, it was no coincidence after that when they didn't even experience it before April. People speculated it to be farms from chink fujos, then even nijiJP got hit by the worm and most of the streams hit by the worms were clearly intentional or targeted e.g Sponsored streams, big 3D events etc. The rrat started because it was highly possible that the fujos were boosting luxiem, but then it evolved after anycolor announced IPO and nijiJP getting boosted by the worm too and now Salome with her unusual growth. What Gura did was getting new viewers to check and sub other Holo members too. Holos were getting 1M sub members every month till july of 2021. For Salome, the new JP audience that she brought didn't even sub to other niji members, nor are they increasing their CCVs. All Holos post-Myth had substantial growths that made the likes of Subaru, Suisei, Rushia etc top stringers for vtubers.

>> No.25663599

What was the CCV for Luca's stream? For some reason it's on my twitter trending but no one is discussing it here. I checked the VOD and it's like...100k for 6 hours. Kind of w/e. Why do mediocre things like that even hit trending, just because it's vtuber-related and I follow a lot of vtubers? I constantly get shit from Niji En males even though I don't follow a single one of them, or even any of the girls (had to unfollow Pomu/Ollie because it kept linking me to shit like Vshojo)

>> No.25663608

>>25663352
Difference is that CCVID was quite immediately visible.
Salome does not have "bots" but her viewer count is still suspicious a f.
And Youtube isn't really culling her, so the only data we have is speculation, and the question of "why?".
Which will most likely be answered by a combination of 3 things -
1. Who becomes the majority shareholder once the IPO starts.
2. Whether Niji stocks rise or crash a few days after the IPO.
3. When something relating to the Japanese royal family comes out.

>> No.25663623

>>25663592
Big numbers lead to bigger numbers

>> No.25663627

>>25663553
Actually, they do. Salome's audience is extremely low engagement. Your link has extremely high relative engagement. The point was that her audience was basically worthless and in terms of actual value was paperthin

>> No.25663629

>>25663565
Probably the same people watch the first two and the third guy is a mexican or something so it's entirely different people that speak taco.

>> No.25663635

https://youtu.be/lIdXGI2jSG8
RED LAMY ALERT

>> No.25663646

>>25663245
Not gonna address the OP getting deleted I guess.
Thought as much.

>> No.25663663

>>25663590
Holy fuck. I'm saving that, this shit should be the thread OP

>> No.25663664

https://twitter.com/un4v5s8bgsvk9xp/status/1534007690053099520?s=21&t=vMprqA49vJViubnIDMkQIQ
He really do be posting barely finished storyboard and get 6 digits like

>> No.25663685

>>25663592
Basically the whole nation is pushing her.
It's way different situation compare to Kizuna Ai or Gura.

>> No.25663691

>>25663627
Who cares about low engagement since she has the biggest viewership.
Nijisanji is still at the top

>> No.25663703

>>25663608
>1. Who becomes the majority shareholder once the IPO starts.
Last I heard they're not even selling all the shares and Riku with his 50%+ shares will be the one true owner no matter what.

>> No.25663702

>>25663273
Well yes, nijiniggers pretending to be holofans were attacking Aqua, Coco and several other top Holos at the time for various things, including the whole Abadango issue.
To this day people still think it was Aqua's own fanbase that was attacking her when it was nijiniggers pretending.
Same types who anti Chihiro btw, pretending to be her fan and shitting on other chuubas.

>> No.25663706

What's a good mobile game genre if Cover and Nijis decides to make one? A non comp story mode gacha game like Arknights/FGO, a competitive game like princess connect/shadowverse?

>> No.25663718

>>25663565
I have never seen any actual tribalism between them. It all sound like joke
>”L + You fell off + no one care + the hood watch Hassan now”
>”Make better contents or I watch AsmonGOLD”

>> No.25663725

>>25663663
Go to the streamer board with that.

>> No.25663727

>>25663706
Rythm game

>> No.25663737

>>25663303
>First in whether or not they get KSon
this is honestly the dumbest rrat I've ever seen on this board. even worst than schizo rrats.

>> No.25663744

>>25663407
WHAT
FUCKING
DATA
Post it then you fucking nigger, all you have is that one chat chart that doesn't say what you think it says then it's back to baseless shit like she doesn't funnel (at 1am) and number big therefore bots

>> No.25663748
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25663748

This Chad keep drawing Salome
I love it!!

>> No.25663749

Another day
Another mindbroken holobronies

>> No.25663751

>>25663725
xQc is a Vtuber.

>> No.25663755

>>25662687

Ok

Nijisanji -kanae kuzuha salome / alive
Nijisanji 200+ / dead

Anycolor have 3 Vtuber member

>> No.25663762

>>25663685
Yeah even YouTube Japan support her
It’s insane how this new Vtuber show up and gained the support of EVERYBODY
Maybe having a mysterious background prevent her from having anti

>> No.25663765

>>25663703
I feel like Anykara is the only smart company in the business. People here shit on IPO too much without knowing that money will create a better vtubing environment.

>> No.25663767

>>25663316
Riku didn't save Luna for the two years she was with them, and she's getting some of her favorite sponsorships from Holo.
You're retarded.

>> No.25663769

>>25663706
Just a normal gacha game with some light combat elements.

>> No.25663777

>>25663685
>Basically the whole nation is pushing her.
China and their hate towards Hololive is second to none. Did A-Soul imploding made them angry and target Hololive because they were reminded that they left them?

>> No.25663779

>sub 1k waiting for haachama
actuak fucking flop

>> No.25663795
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>>25663549
Just post Patra lewds later. I’ll just be sad that Qpi will never be officially lewded in this thread

>> No.25663796

>>25663748
He used to draw Hololive btw.

>> No.25663812
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25663812

>>25662873
Jesus man

>> No.25663814

>>25663765
No shit it’s run by a young talented CEO who is a businessman through and through
Everyone acknowledge that

>> No.25663815

Anyone able to provide a QRD on what has happened to Flare of late? Her growth has become abysmal even compared to the other sickly members of HoloJP

>Past 90 days
>Flare 17k
>Roboco 19k
>Aki 24k
>Mel 28k
>Luna 29k
>Choco 29k
>Sora 33k

I know she has long been the perennial loser of Gen3 but I don't remember her stagnating this badly when compared to her fellow low tiers.

>> No.25663819

>>25663549
Just post the lewds. Salome already mindbroke that tradition anyways.

>> No.25663824

>>25663779
Why is she doing it as a premier rather than live?

>> No.25663843

>>25663796
I've noticed some Holo clipper channels switching over to being Salome clippers of late...

>> No.25663846

Chloe 25k!!

>> No.25663849

>>25663824
>retarded whore does retarded things
color me surprised!!
this will be a sub 20k anniversary for the first time

>> No.25663851

>>25663814
Then what does it make Yagoo?

>> No.25663868

>>25663703
> 50%
any sauce on this?
Last I heard his share was 43%

>> No.25663869

>>25663706
They are hell bent on creating a multiverse kind of world building so I would want them to go full VN like FGO
FGO have been pushing the quality of their storytelling lately

>> No.25663873

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1534132956306231296
>bought KU-100
>Susan banned ASMR
Kek

>> No.25663884

>>25663843
Anon, some of the biggest clippers on YT are Holo clippers. Unless big channels like Sushi or Rizulix start doing Salome clip, no small channel would care.

>> No.25663890

>>25663846
Kobo mogged

>> No.25663898

>>25663851
I nice guy who want to hang around with his talents
Yagoo being the test subject for Holo merch will never not be funny

>> No.25663900

>>25663796
>>25663843
>The exact same posts just replacing Luxiem with Salome
I hate you faggots so much

>> No.25663901

>>25663815
I'm guessing Rushia's graduation and Pekora and Marine's breaks has kind of destroyed the outer halo of people who might become interested in Flare by proxy. Supposedly she's not even collabing with Noel much anymore. Her biggest spotlight is some group collabs and that's it.

>> No.25663903

Niji should play it smart, treat Salome as a new box and debut/internal-reincarnate/hire 11 other vtubers themed after constellations. once a month. Salome is scorpio btw.

>> No.25663904

>>25663873
wait, ASMR is banned on youtube now? Since when?

>> No.25663907

>>25663873
>>25663904
loli ASMR is banned

>> No.25663908

Stinky gold then I guess but man is a probable sub-30k one going to feel out of place this month

>> No.25663909

>>25663851
Not young for sure.

>> No.25663914

>>25663765
>>25663814
Their business model is literally being the Uber/Airbnb/etc of vtubers
This is a recipe for making a lot of money without a lot of effort, but it's also shitty and exploitative and the company basically leeches off the successes while doing nothing to help the flops

>> No.25663916

>>25663901
I mean Shiraken was thriving…

>> No.25663923

>>25663815
Sub purges
General lack of interest in subbing

It’s not uncommon. Take a look at Nene’s growth and see the same thing. Pretty much everyone gets sub culled and it just happens to be that the ones who get middling growth in the first case can’t supplement the subs they lose. And the ones you listed never had a lot of subs to begin with so any push (choco with her 10 million collabs, sora with her birthday) is clearly gonna do more than someone in both a rut and having never been a standout for growth in the first place

>> No.25663937

>>25663908
well a certain retard decided to make her anniversary a premiere kek, chammers why?!

>> No.25663944
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>>25663796
>>25663843
> this rrat again
some things never change

>> No.25663948

>>25663846
>Chloe 1/4 salome!!

>> No.25663962

>>25663937
>haachama
she's not getting over 20k anon

>> No.25663964

>>25663869
I still think Council lore was such a half-assed attempt of being chuuni. Give a skilled writer that setting and he would make a whole novel out of it

>> No.25663970

>>25663914
Anon, the communist-lite practice from Hololive is not going to get big money.
It will encourage complacency when everyone is getting the pie.

Nijisaji is unironically creating a competitive environment that will force people to innovate.

>> No.25663974

good numbers discussion, really productive and insightful
don't ever let this thread trick you into thinking that's anything but a dump

>> No.25663977

>>25663846

1 gold

>> No.25663985

>>25663907
Thats hilarious. I know ASMR is a already an easy way to get demonetized,so she really fucked up.

>> No.25663988

>>25663815
Not the place for this but she was too much of a bitch in public and has been backtracking since

>> No.25664006

>>25663970
Both have their pros and cons
I will say no more

>> No.25664008

>>25663868
https://ipokabu.net/ipo/5032

You would be correct, but just as a disclaimer, irl hostile takeovers aren't like silicon valley. Especially when he's not just CEO but still majority shareholder.

>> No.25664020

>>25663988
Hololive feels like a dumpster fire these days.

>> No.25664041

>>25664020
So does my dick after fucking your mum

>> No.25664044

>>25663970
Don't know about you, but they'd still be getting more money than anycolor through that strategy and everyone has a nice job security at that.

>> No.25664046

>>25664020
>>25664020
Hololive died with Sankisei death

>> No.25664049

>>25664020
why are you talking about your feelings

>> No.25664073

Hololive needs something big right now. Maybe the return of Holo Summer will do.

>> No.25664080

>>25663970
What they're creating is the same competitive environment that existed anyway, except a company with millions of dollars of funding has inserted itself between the participants and the government to collect extra taxes

>> No.25664086

/#/ - Fanfiction General

>> No.25664089

>>25663970
Yes, a competitive enviroment where the talents fight over scraps, many of them quit or have enemies within the company, and most of them eventually leave to do their own thing or join the competition using their experience.

Your company is a Black Company

>> No.25664088

>>25663868
>>25664008
He owns around that much himself, yeah, but he also owns Skyland Ventures, which owns a further 7% which puts him at just about 50% when combined.

>> No.25664095

>>25663916
Shiraken is on break until Suisei is back from her break. Should be in a week.

>> No.25664112

>>25663988
qrd?

>> No.25664116

>>25664020
Where do you faggots come from?

>> No.25664130

>>25664080
So more money for them to invest in more vtubers. I don't see the wrong thing in that.
Investors probably choose Anykara over Cover since Anyakar is much safer at this point.

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>> No.25664139

>>25664073
Hololive doesn't need shit. They're still wildly successful and more profitable than Nijisanji, this shit hasn't changed anything. Only the delusional faggots in /#/ thinks Gold means anything since Salome's fans aren't paying customers

>> No.25664150

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1534132853671628800
sorry anons but kino is starting in 20 minutes, and honestly seeing the state of this thread right now, I'm just going to go and enjoy the stream regardless
I'd advise you do the same

>> No.25664153

>>25664130
considering that anykara constantly comes up with new shit and try to breakout of the vtuber niche which they've been doing great regardless, it's obvious why you want to invest in them.

>> No.25664158

>>25664112
https://youtu.be/ppOu2U4SByQ?t=68
It's literally when the stagnation began

>> No.25664160

>>25664132
YOOOOO this is the kind of number I care about
How come no one ever done this?

>> No.25664163

>>25664130
>Anykara over Cover since Anyakar is much safer at this point
Baffling post

>> No.25664164

>>25664116
from here, half this thread is larpers starved of attention, what, you thought playing amateur entertainment manager was going to attract people with good brains or something

>> No.25664182

>>25664073
Hololive Summer will never happen again anon. If it does, Cover would have to stream it on some other website since Susan will strike it for "sexual content" and it would only be limited to JP, which means they would lose a lot of EN and ID viewers. Plus they would have to make new 3D models for gens 3, 4 and 5, which is going to be expensive and Cover is pouring a lot of financial resources into too many projects, which is already a red flag

>> No.25664187

>>25664139
until we get recent data from both companies as well as if and when cover opens their own IPO.

it's nothing but speculation for the most part.

>> No.25664205

>>25664046
Hololive died when Coco left.

>> No.25664206

>>25664182
>Cover is pouring a lot of financial resources into too many projects, which is already a red flag
please stop trying to talk about things you don't understand

>> No.25664210

Wow this thread really go full /biz/ now

>> No.25664219

>>25664163
would you rather have a company that constantly tries to innovate or one that still sticks to their popular but otaku niche?

>> No.25664223

>>25664182
What the fuck do you think they're spending money on? No, I mean it, what in your peabrain is the rrat for what you think Cover is spending their millions in liquid cash on?

>> No.25664226

>>25664088
>he also owns Skyland Ventures
>https://skyland.vc/
I don't see Riku

>> No.25664229

Goods

Hololive Talent rich , Talent sell goods and get profit to Vtuber

Nijisanji Company rich , Company sell goods and get profit to CEO

superchat

holomem received 50-60% from COCO (Before cut tax)

>Talent rich

Nijimem received 15-20% from Anycolor is paying a percentage of every stream for
live2d licensing costs (Before cut tax)

>Anycolor rich

>> No.25664231

30k

>> No.25664235

CHLOE 30K GET

>> No.25664249

>>25664210
3 or 4 retards shitposting on cooldown

>> No.25664252

>>25664163
Don’t tell him that investors can invest in more than 1 company

>> No.25664257

i love that one of the threads is going cover is stagnant and is not trying anything while the other is cover is wasting too much money on too many things
the absolute fucking state of this thread

>> No.25664279

>>25664219
I haven't since one single innovation from Anycolor in the past year other than them letting someone like Vox run free

>> No.25664294

>>25664257
>The enemy is both weak and strong. “[…] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
Remind me of this

>> No.25664295

>>25661660
Oh amelia actually dusted off her twitch account for a random stream

>> No.25664299

>>25664219
Anykara is literally exploding with controversy every other month, it constantly has talent leaving and bad mouthing it, it is always flagging in terms of numbers, it's extremely top heavy and always pushing out new talents who cannibalize the each other further, and it's always trying new stupid shit to fuck themselves over again.

What about that is safe?

>> No.25664307

>>25664073
>Maybe the return of Holo Summer will do.
Unless they plan to stream 3D swimsuits everyday, that won't help much.
They have 3 choices
1. steal some of those 100k JP salome tourists by debuting JP7 (unlikely), or existing JPs returning to stream and attracting more tourists (like what Miko did)
2. EN3 gets 100k new western tourists
3. StarsEN becomes the new FOTM, getting fujos from all over the world to watch them

>> No.25664317

>>25663970
>It will encourage complacency
The company doesn't provide EVERYTHING you retard. Just enough to cover your expenses and put out the occasional song or some other form of content.
Their system is set up such that the talents themselves have to put in money if it exceeds the company budget (big projects, big merch etc.) but in return they get to keep a bigger cut of those items.
So if you want something bigger than usual, you'll have to pay for it.
Anycolor doesn't even provide a salary, and you can bet that for the generic merch with zero talent input, they will get maybe 30% max as revenue.

>> No.25664318

did this bitch just cocktease everyone with a 3d announcement to show off new avatar emotes, kinda based desu

>> No.25664327

>>25664229
What is this ESL gibberish? Both companies have the same compensation structure except for Hololive's base salary.

>> No.25664328

>>25664257
No wonder why no one here is a CEO
>Company not worth investing in because they are the 2nd on the market
>People only invest in the tip top company

>> No.25664350

>>25663273
Actually that started with Gen 3 already. Marine had her share of outside collabs but compared to previous generations they stood out as being super insular.

>> No.25664354

>>25664328
They won't be here if they are CEO level rich

>> No.25664360

>>25664317
10%~15% cut for the Vtuber on Nijisanji side. 50% iirc for the Cover side?

>> No.25664366

>>25664328
>No wonder why no one here is a CEO
most of the people here can't even do basic math operations properly

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>>25663988
>>25664020

>> No.25664379

>>25664257
They're not wasting the money if it produces results. HoloError tickets were sold out. HoloAlt had a grand reception. HoloEarth is showing progress, made a stress test for server a few months ago then opened up a recruitment for a server engineer recently.

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SEXXXX

>> No.25664392

>>25664088
He doesn't own it himself, but they provided the capital in his angel investing round so clearly he has an uncle or someone he can rely on there.

>> No.25664404

They're really rushing holoX 3D huh?

>> No.25664421

>>25664388
OH SHIT SEGGGGSSS

>> No.25664431

I WILL HAVE SEX WITH THE 3D ORCA

>> No.25664432

>>25664404
Not really. Gokisei's was faster.

>> No.25664436

They used to space out the 3D debuts 1 week

>> No.25664439

>>25664404
nope. literally coming at about the usual time. even slightly slower than gen5 was

>> No.25664441

>>25664404
>rushing
they waited longer than the previous 2 gens

>> No.25664451

>>25664073
I don't really think they "need to do" anything, their model is working completely fine.
Any audience that they lost to Salome is already getting filtered by nijinigger behavior and just coming back into the comfort of the box.

HoloSummer is definitely being teased a lot though, but I guess the question is how do they make it actual content, other than just the members running around in Swimsuits.

>> No.25664455

>>25664229
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OWHHarj0Wng

Poor ceo his salary is lower than coco lol

>> No.25664458

>>25664327
It's not exactly a secret that Niji plays favorites with events and merch
If you're not a breakout superstar you'll get a 3D debut where you stand in an empty room talking for an hour and some voice packs and that's that
If you put up big numbers they'll drag you to a concert to sing over some hired dancers even if you just want to sit at home playing 10 hours of apex

>> No.25664461

>>25664404
not really, its about the same amount of time Gen 5 (sans Nene) got theirs. In fact, its probably a little late if anything.

>> No.25664469

>>25664388
>Getsu fucking youbi
are you shitting me!? at this point they are just rushing the 3D debuts too hard.

>> No.25664471

>>25664073
Hololive is completely fine. Only problem right now is that video game production is worse than its ever been and the best current gen console is the Switch.
>>25664373
Don't respond to me with that shit repetitive joke you fat fuck.

>> No.25664475

>>25664328
Which is why everything that gets posted here should be taken with TWO HEAPING JARFULLS of salt, cause there's an awful fuckton of shitposting.

>> No.25664477

>>25664451
>other than just the members running around in Swimsuits.
that's enough for me

>> No.25664478

Cute slither girl with blue hair kuchisaki nero
https://www.youtube.com/wnan24atch?v=swrRXnTg_B0

>> No.25664479

>>25664404
I can see some big live like Bloom happen in the second half of the year

>> No.25664486

>>25664404
Literally slower than gokisei

>> No.25664489

>>25664132
o shit
is this from some official site? or did they make the holodule public?

>> No.25664490

>>25664404
Around the same time it took for gen 5 to get their 3D, so no. 3D is more or less an obligation for all JP holos due to the amount of 3D lives every month.

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Just block Salome's channel on your youtube feed and filter her name in this thread. It's not that hard.

>> No.25664496

>>25664404
HoloJP needs all the help they can get to remain relevant during Salome's reign

>> No.25664507

>>25664404
>rushing
main talent doesnt need to succeed sidebranch talents

>> No.25664520

>>25664432
>>25664439
>>25664441.
>>25664461
I meant it in the sense that they're doing multiple debuts a week, with previous gens they only did one a week

Also
>Iroha debut on a day where Salome won't have an entry on the tally
>Chloe debut on a day where Salome will probably not have an entry on the tally

>> No.25664530

>>25664492
holoseethe

>> No.25664538

>>25664492
I've never got any of her streams recommended to me. Only thing I got was that burger short.

>> No.25664542

>>25664360
> 50% iirc for the Cover side?
Only for company provided stuff with ZERO talent input.
Their profit sharing is based on the percentage of talent investment. If talent funded 80% of something, they get 80% of the profits.
> 10%~15% cut for the Vtuber on Nijisanji side.
Source : Your ass.

>> No.25664549

>>25664492
You could also chop off your dick, but why would you do that, faggot?

>> No.25664552

>>25664489
This is from the English hololive fan wiki

>> No.25664560

>>25664328
anon you're in a thread whose most activity centers around the imaginary prestige of having their company's vtuber get the highest CCV for the day

>> No.25664565

>>25664520
Iroha's and Chloe's will be on different weeks though?

>> No.25664566

>>25664492
Based

>> No.25664568

Chloe 3D won't fight against Salome because she streams at 23:00 Sunday and 0:00 Tuesday...right?

>> No.25664569

>>25664520
they don't care about the fake medal anon

>> No.25664580

>>25664404
Emergency 3D debut. Salome is just too strong

>> No.25664586

>>25664492
Why should I do that? I don't hate the girl. I hate shitposters who using her for shitpost

>> No.25664588
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Reminder:

>Salome truly brought a HUGE audience for herself and herself alone.
Here is a before and after
>00:01 JST :: 355576 combined CCV
>00:06 JST :: 262916 combined CCV
No funnel anywhere.

>> No.25664596

>>25664569
I know but it's a funny coincidence

>> No.25664597

>>25664549
Baffling post

>> No.25664599
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>>25664388
Theyre pretty close

>> No.25664606

>>25664580
>emergency
they waited longer than previous gens

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>>25664588

>what happened to miko's 98k peak? where did the 30k went? why is her ccv at 66k right now?
It spread mostly inside the box itself.

Here is for Holo only, on the span in a full hour since Miko's peak
>22:45 JST :: 153736 combined CCV
>23:45 JST :: 150723 combined CCV

>> No.25664625

>>25664588
Nijisanji doesnt have a box

>> No.25664629

>>25664586
Well I hate her and will never watch her and I hate the shit posters. Knocking out two birds with one stone.

>> No.25664638

>>25664580
It's because of Holo Summer on July

>> No.25664652

you know, I didn't care about Salome being the fastest growing vtuber in the history of the industry or having unreal CCV since in the end it means that my oshi will have more potential market for her music, but looking at the behavior of nijiniggers /here/ and on Twitter, I wish nothing but death to Salome and her fans

>> No.25664657

>>25664588
streams after midnight don't funnel retard

>> No.25664660

>>25664565
There's like three days of difference. And Lui and Koyori are also doing big announcements for this week. Lui's is during a birthday stream so it's probably not 3D yet though, however Koyori's is likely a 3D announcement for next weekend

>> No.25664674

>>25664404
Gen 5 got it faster so they're actually behind
they should have release those in GW so the last few 3D doesn't need to be picture frames....

>> No.25664675

gura was my oshi but not anymore

salome is my oshi now. i am going to learn japanese for her.

>> No.25664680

>>25664657
but they do, we literally have a name for streamers that rely on past midnight funnels, it's called the garbage collector strategy

>> No.25664684

>>25664657
It's well documented that everyone in Japan has an extremely strict bedtime that coincidentally moves forward or backward an hour in sync with Salome's stream schedule

>> No.25664685

>>25663450
It's not a premiere.

>> No.25664687

>>25664657
Miko's stream disagrees. The stream watchers move to watch other streams, the overall number doesn't decrease much. With Salome, they disappear into thin air

>> No.25664691

>>25664674
I believe the reason gen 5 got it faster because Bloom

>> No.25664701

>>25664675
Based

>> No.25664710
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BIG

>> No.25664713

>>25664652
Butt hurt much?

>> No.25664718

>>25664542
Source for that 80%?

>> No.25664733

>>25664675
I guess T-series is my oshi.

>> No.25664739

Shut up niggers Haachama is starting.

>> No.25664746

>>25664586
Any Niji content appearing on my feed is an instant channel block.

>I don't hate the girl
Baffling outlook. Nijisanji is an environment that has created the most toxic fans imaginable their accelerate business model has been a massive negative on the entire industry. I hate anybody who actively enables Nijisanji and if you are willingly working for them than you are enabling all the bullshit that goes with it. If you do that than I hate you.

>> No.25664755

>>25664675
Leech

>> No.25664761

>>25664317
>>Anycolor
https://youtu.be/u2fGW5Lt9jw
>>Hololive
https://youtu.be/KwYsDj3SASw

>> No.25664766

>>25664710
so they are doing reverse debut order?, next would be koyo's and her schedule has her making the date announcement on friday

>> No.25664775

>>25664733
>>25664733
Pewd is my oshi
Unironically
I literally grew up watching him

>> No.25664790

>PREMIERE
HAACHAMA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Here's a topic away from IPO scam/Sal*me/Holo reclining timeloops,

Compared side by side, why does Holo 3D model for their thumbnails looks more polished/consistent than Nijis? To me, I find them more anime-like recently, thinking that they've improved their 3D after testing it with stars.

>> No.25664808

>>25664675
why are you in this small niche if you behave like this, go watch mr beast or something

>> No.25664823

I don't mind if Cover blows millions on HoloEarth or whatever, but I wish they shelled out to have more and better shorts made

>> No.25664829

>>25664713
no, I didn't care, but now I do.
congratulations, tribalfags, you made me jump over the fence. I hope each one of (You) kills himself

>> No.25664839

>25664746
holy mental illness

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>>25664793
It's been like that for a while

>> No.25664848

>>25664350
in her first year marine collabbed with natori, ran, haneru, patra, rion, tamaki, nobuhime, ui, nekomiya, nana, meari, lize, mishiro, ange, and more, and way more if you include bigger group collabs and interactions in smaller capacities

more recently though the only new collabs have basically just been warabe and coromin (formerly corona), but warabe was the editor on ahoy and unison so they've been working together forever anyway, and I guess there was also the group collab with mito and honhima

Looking at what happened to Marine's gaibu collab rate is a great way to see how much more insular hololive has gotten as a box in general.

>> No.25664852

>>25664746
The best thing about Nijisanji is that (you) don't watch it.

>> No.25664856

>>25664718
Polka talking about getting Cover to buy the rights to her song, which she had fully funded.

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jesas wtf. another 5k ekg spike

>> No.25664872

>>25664793
the harsher lines help, it makes the clothes on the bottom one look like amorphous blobs

>> No.25664879

>>25664746
I actually watch a few Nijis, but their shitty Uber-for-vtubers business model and awful toxic fanbase gives me a default negative opinion of anyone streaming under them that they have to overcome first
I've actually wondered if this is why the Niji branding is conspicuously absent from Salome's channel despite being prominent on every wave since 2020

>> No.25664904

>>25664848
It's because Nijisanji is a fucking minefield of yabs waiting to happen and you know it

>> No.25664912

>>25664848
Marine also had no problems collabing with Rurudo or going to her old friend's anniversary as her roommate.

>> No.25664919

100万…2022/06/06 15時
101万…2022/06/06 17時
102万…2022/06/06 19時
103万…2022/06/06 20時50分

10k per 2h

>> No.25664924

>>25664856
Yeah, i've heard about the circumstances about hologram circus. I was wondering more about the exact 80% figure you provided

>> No.25664928

>>25664823
Cover is getting a server engineer, HoloEarth is doing fine. If a Holo joins with their model, moving and talking with it, then 10k+ others would join, overblowing the server. The way they could make money out of it is to sell cosmetics.

>> No.25664929

>>25664766
No only that they are very clos in date. 4th gen was milked through the entire of he month

>> No.25664931

>>25664657
Nijicope

>> No.25664932

>>25664793
Maybe they started to pay more for their commissions. They had made good choices with that one company that made Pekora, Luna and Nene. I am glad the quality of Hololive is improving. But overall Nijisanji has the better 3Ds. Judging by a thumbnail alone won't help you.

>> No.25664936

>>25664871
Thanks youtube.

>> No.25664943

So does Salome have Monday slot ?
Or still 23:00 Sunday and 0:00 Tusday ?

>> No.25664956

>>25664793
Hololive has had better 3D models for a while now. Where Niji excels is the props and overall AR tech. Hololive models are superior though.

>> No.25664960

>>25664904
most of those are indies or 774s

>> No.25664970

>>25664871
>HOLOBOTS
At least make it less obvious.

>> No.25664973

>>25664919
Known to less mathematically inclined persons as 5k per hour.

>> No.25664981

>>25664746
Baffling post anon.

>> No.25664986

>>25664674
>>Gen 5 got it faster
Also in Gen 4's case they too were supposed to get it faster but Corona pushed them (and Flare) back a month or so.

>> No.25664992

>>25664929
it was gonna take too long that way, if they spaced it out like that, laplus was going to wait over 7 months for hers and it was going to happen in july

>> No.25664995

>>25664932
>But overall Nijisanji has the better 3Ds
Only the object tracking

>> No.25665008

>>25664956
Decent AR tech doesn't seem like it should be that hard for Cover to just buy desu, that shit has been in development by many different groups for years and years

>> No.25665037

>>25665008
Holofes was AR and was on par with any of the recent Niji AR stuff (because they're both renting the tech from the same companies)
Really the only area Cover falls short is tracking objects people are holding, I'd say in other regards they're actually better now

>> No.25665047

>>25664932
I beg to differ. Both are good but niji 3D quality differs based on how much they put their budget on the 3D or how popular the liver are while a Holo's 3D quality is mostly consistent. VALZ were hardly impressive, and the girls were okayish.

>> No.25665049

>>25665008
They did hire somebody to do it for Holofes which is probably why it looked so good. If I'm not mistaken Crypton Future Media (The Miku people) were involved in the AR for Holofes 3.

>> No.25665058

>>25664848
In her first year, outside her gen, Marine had 17 potential collab partners in the box
>Gen1
>Gen2
>Gamers
>Sora, Miko, Suisei and Roboco

It quite literally double after October 2020
>Gen 4
>Gen 5
>ID1
>Myth

The chinkout didn't help but, as tamaki said here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX9kuXL0ZhM
holos aren't with enough time even to collab outside their gens, let alone outside their companies

>> No.25665072

>>25664924
I was generalizing from what she said there, and about Lamy's funding of her own Liquor thing (which was all her iirc).

>> No.25665078

>>25665037
HoloFes was great but that stuff feels a little too costly to buy for just random 3D stuff.

>> No.25665079

>>25665037
niji doesnt rent, they have their own tech

>> No.25665083

>>25664929
Looks like something will happen in late June or July

>> No.25665092

>>25665047
Hololive hires different companies for their models. How can you believe they are more consistent?

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>>25665047
Niji 3D models look like Endermen with thier long ass limbs and overall gangly frames.

>> No.25665224

>>25665079
They're using the same cameras and tracking systems as everyone else anon, the only in-house part is the software

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kek, there is a chance Haachama may snag gold after all. She's doing a watchalong of her ongoing premiere, but the audience will surely funnel to herself after that
>maybe

>> No.25665244

Premiere 30K get
You should have streamed it live Haachama

>> No.25665255

>>25665078
You don't need AR for random 3D stuff. Even Niji with their in-house AR only used it for concerts.

>> No.25665280

>>25665239
This is....stupid. I think.

>> No.25665282

>>25665092
Wait I thought cover were developing their own tech? I don't keep with these things.

>> No.25665286

Chammers will not beat any of her guests in this lmao

>> No.25665287

>>25665239
Nofucking way she learn these tricks by herself. Someone must have teach her these numberfag tric

>> No.25665326

>>25665239
kek didnt realise she was streaming too

>> No.25665329

>>25665280
>>25665287
I wonder if she was capable of self raid, like IRyS did with her song premiere

>> No.25665337

>>25665287
what trick, she's literally sabotaging herself

>> No.25665342

>>25665255
in-house AR is something I would think as a waste of money, it doesn't even turn into big profits after spending a lot of money for it. How many times did Niji made an AR concert/3D this year?

>> No.25665350

>>25665239
I thought that too but she's going to need a godly retention for that to happen

>> No.25665361

>>25660505
we will get holo summer back
it's haram

>> No.25665399

>>25665342
>this year
None I think but the next NijiFes will use AR for sure
>last year
3-4 times
They can also rent it to another companies/indies.

>> No.25665401

btw, you guys hearing this.....
>nothing
Despite the thread being absolutely the same (with the same shitty OP), the 2 or 3 shitposters went to sleep (or to work, or whatever) and the thread simply resumed as usual, discussing 3D and numbers.

Goes to show how much effort that little band of retards have to pull to disrupt this thread for 30 minutes or so

>> No.25665413

>>25665329
IRyS did some trick with the premier frame to make it work, not sure if she can or not.

>> No.25665414

I have been watching vtubers since Miko's Niggah and I will never subscribe too or watch a single Salome stream. I stay loyal to my girls and am not a trend hopping faggot like so many of you apparently are. No wonder society is collapsing.

>DUUURRRR NEW SHINY THING

>> No.25665425

>>25665282
At least a company called nanodes did the 3D modelling for the Vtubers listed on their homepage.
https://nanodes.jp/works/

>> No.25665430

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that the cripple tally currently only has 3 entries with just 2 ongoing or scheduled streams possibly joining them

>> No.25665453

>>25665282
The 3D models are outsourced. Literally everyone does this, because it's not economical at all to hire in-house 3D artists who will spend 80% of their time sitting around with no work to do

>> No.25665461

>>25665414
i would watch salome if she was good, but she's not particularly special aside from her numbers

if niji ever put out someone really good I'll watch

>> No.25665471

>>25665430
EN....

>> No.25665495

>>25665453
ahh

>> No.25665499

>>25665430
Who leads it?

>> No.25665520

>>25665430
jesus what a fucking disaster
what is wrong with anglotubers

>> No.25665525

>>25665499
As of right now Kronii

>> No.25665534

>>25665401
Meidos can genuinely do better, that's all I can say. And people should really learn to stop biting bait

>> No.25665537

>>25662375
The final cope.... Salome is actually Hololive.....
Incredible

>> No.25665555

>>25665414
>Miko says n-word and trends
>anon hops on the hype train to vtubing
Is this bait or are you really not self-aware at all?

>> No.25665556

>>25665430
EN3 PLEASE SAVE US

>> No.25665557

>>25665430
at least the gold is in the actual tally this time
by like 100 viewers...

>> No.25665583

Mumei is a fucking debuff holy shit

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