/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Probably some whore.

>>25599411
Haachama, Matsuri, Shibuya Kaho

>Mikeneko
>joining boyfriend-havers.corp
I mean it fits but she wouldn’t admit to it

>>25599411
>Kson and Mikeneko
I ron't know how Vshojo works, can they just walk in and debut with the same avatar and name?

>>25599560
Yea. I think they only help with managing, sponsors and merch.

>>25599560
You know how long Nyanners had her name?

https://twitter.com/loutlot/status/1519009081201401856
>VShojo Japan Lead, Vice President

>>25599411
Well, they don't have permissions for games and they won't be able to react to YouTube videos. What's the point?

>>25599411
Hopefully it actually happens would be cool to see some big names like kson and mikeneko maybe even pikamee?

>>25600124
>pika
I fucking hate vshojofags who literally know nothing about the space they’re infecting

>>25600188
They're still the most well knowed western brand in JP soo they actually have a chance

>>25600124
How goddamn heartless would you have to be to suggest seperating Pikamee from Tomoshika and VOMS

>>25600250
Her avatar is owned by VOMS so she would have to redebut as a completely new character and why would she do that?

>>25600188
Same with Kson.
She's hanging out with VOMS and indies.
No idea why they think that few collabs mean that she want to join another company.

>>25599411
Some literal nobodies that would end up as being 3views.

>>25600124
You are the most fucking stupid person I have ever seen comment on this board and this is /vt/ for fucks sake

>>25600107
reddit meme reviews are back BAYBEEH

>>25599411
>vshojo
>none of the girls are virgin
really makes you think

They will be announcing this during ironlung's collab with haachama, they will literally leech off of cover from the very first fucking day

>>25599411
>kson
She wants to start her own corpo, doesn't she? If so, I don't see her rebranding.
>mikeneko
NDAs are a big deal for corpos so in your dreams. I always get laugh when people say something similar like she's going to reincarnate in Nijisanji just because they are Hololive's biggest competitor.

>>25599411
Uto?

>>25599411
>Are you ready for VShojoJP, /vt/?
Will they actually be good, unlike current VShojo?

>>25599411
>As if Kson and Necronigger would join an org again.

>>25599411
Soon.

>>25599608
Longer than some Nyancuck age.

>>25600107
>permissions for games
???

>>25601405
VShojo is an agency its not a proper corpo.

>>25600188
>>25600323
>>25600491
samefag

Didn't Pika already ditched the VOMS avatar?

Normally I would think VShojoJP was just a joke but since they are getting investor money they are probably expected to expand. Also, the Twitch connections probably means they would like to get more talents to stream exclusively on there over YouTube.

The vice president of the jp branch is an ex-staff as well, similar to Gunrun, i wonder if all the jp members or some of them will stream on Twitch.

a lot of things will prob become easier if they all go Twitch.

is this how rushia comes back?

Kson, Mikeneko, Shibuya Kaho and Hitomi Tanaka

>>25599411
Huff that copium OP when you are utterly disappointing.
You may be need Russia Tier volumes of it.

>>25603184
>Shibuya Kaho Kson off-collab

>>25599411
someone like Kagura Mea

>>25599560
Kson spends a lot of time on Twitch, so Vshojo is a perfect fit.

>>25603410
Mea would fit naturally in Vshojo
she could also be a good choise kek

>>25599411
>Kson and Mikeneko
I thought Kson was making her own company

>>25599411
why do these fucks keeps plaguing and ruining my hobby

>>25600124
I'm pretty sure VOMS owns Pikamee, otherwise Monoe wouldn't have been sent to the Shadow Realm.

>>25600628
Iron is a virgin though

>>25603515
"Kson's agency" is probably VShojoJP, she'll be the headline member.

>>25599411
>Who do you think is in, other than the obvious names like Kson and Mikeneko?

>>25603927
>He doesn't know

>>25603927

>>25599411
Graphic design is my passion

>>25599411
You have a lot of confidence on Mikeneko lmao.

>>25599411
ew

>>25601587
You wish, fag.

>>25599411
nice, i can finally watch them

>>25600973
>NDAs are a big deal for corpos so in your dreams.
Mikeneko already collabed with a smol corpo and turned down offers from others. She is not joining Niji and highly unlikely Vshojo either but this idea that she is permanently blacklisted by everybody is wrong and ignorant.
Anyway the main reason she is not joining anything has nothing to do with NDAs, it's that she doesn't stream.

>>25604625
>she doesn't stream.
She would be right at home in VShojo then.

>>25604735
Kek

>>25599411
> Kson
what is this cope.
she went indie for a reason.

>>25603927
> he lacks critical information

>>25604625
>it's that she doesn't stream.
Currently on a YouTube hiatus. She's literally streamed both yesterday and the day before on Twicast, though.

>>25604735
fits pretty well with hololive as well, i mean they let anyone in.

>>25603927
This is true, I'm the guy who checks her hymen every month.

>>25601227
it will fail
cause any japanese girl will come in thinking she joining a warm and welcoming company
just to discover her senpais are a bunch of Twitter-piling two faced women that would throw them under the bus in a heart beat

>>25604111
>>25604822
Are you guys serious? She literally has a disease that prevents her from having sex

>>25605087
do your archive reps about her 娘, jannies are pretty strict about nuking her PL stuff.

>>25605013
if they're hands off with management maybe it might the way of bizarro sony where the JP half gets super successful and they abandon the home market.
Since VCs have shares in VShojo they'll need to make that buck back quick.

>>25604625
collab is very different from joining

It is true that Vshoujo gives they talents more freedom? or is just publicity?

>>25606130
Whatever makes you feel better.
If this were a real industry like banking or software development it would be really hard to get a job after breaking NDA, but this is anime girls. She's not going to work for Niji or Sony but a small corpo or a foreign company cares more about her audience and income.

>>25601960
>Also, the Twitch connections probably means they would like to get more talents to stream exclusively on there over YouTube.
DOA, japs don't watch Twitch.

>>25599411
hololive whores/ their rommates on a verge of graduation

>>25607957
>roommates
VShojo doesn't do reincarnations, they only hire established brands.

>>25606844
they have complete freedom to do whatever they want, vshojo events are all optional (which is why full company events have become pretty much non-existent)
it's usually more the other way around, one of the girls wants to make something happen and vshojo helps organize / provides tech support, that kinda stuff, like hooking up a collab guest with an IRL backpack or making art assets and animations for things like ironmouse's talk show
vshojo the company just takes a cut on merch sales and sponsorships, other than that they have no say whatsoever on what their members do

>>25606844
Since they're American they don't need permission for games or anything, and the current roster all have their rights to their models, and apparently they only take a cut from merch sales and sponsorships that they set up. They can do their own merch or sponsorships on the side too.

On the flipside the management seems by far the most incompetent in the big corpo scene, they basically never do any big cool company events like Hololive or Nijisanji, setting up anything is left to the streamers, and they seem to basically act as a legal/tech helpdesk and nothing more.

>>25608052
>>25608092
Mmm doesn't sound your like typical corporation...
I wonder if she...

>>25608468
She 100% is

>>25600107
>permissions
They're American you weeb, they never do that.

>>25599411
Streaming exclusively on twitch is basically dead on arrival because barely any Japanese even know what even is twitch

>>25609489
they’ll most likely have no issue with said vtubers being on both, vshojo is pretty easygoing with what the talents can do

>>25609489
Who says they're streaming on Twitch, let alone exclusively?

>>25599411
Kson can 100% join, but Mikeneko is likely still has a non-compete clause in her contract.

>>25599411
>Hire Michael Cat
>she proceeds to leak everything to western drama vtubers because nyanners's stream overlapped with hers for 5 minutes and veibae liked a tweet she didn't like
>endless shitposting
Can't wait.

>>25609857
Even if she does I doubt they are going to sue her and get a bunch of bad publicity for trying to prevent an employee they fired from working at another org. If they were going to go nuclear like that they would have just sued her for the NDA breach.

>>25609489
Back then yes but now i'm not completely sure.
Holos kind of maintained their ccvs from youtube when they streams in twitch, i saw few jp indies having 70-120ish ccvs in there too.
But judging from how vsj getting the chuubas, can they even convince jp indies with big numbers that isn't kson (the latter unlikely joins) to stream in twitch exclusively?

>>25610114
*ting discord noise
User name: connor
>ayo bitch, daddy is home, open the fucking door now

>>25609248
JPs need permissions.

>>25599411
If VShojo finally entering the JP market, will their name written as V処女 or V少女 in Japanese?

>>25610779
>name is literally a pun on 美少女
think anon think

>>25610876
But shojo/処女(virgin) is how their name written, not shoujo/少女.
Ironic, considering none of them are virgins.

>>25604625
Collabing doesn't give you access to critical information so it's fine, but you would never want to hire a serial information leaker and drama magnet.

>>25599411
They should hire yumeno lilith/sayamagu

>>25610114
Yea Mike's chances to get a corporate gig is impossible now. This is why you don't break NDAs everyone expects you to be a backstabber now

>>25611497
I don't even think she wants another corporate gig anyways and she's been declining a lot of collabs/tourneys due to her fear of her rabid antis attacking people, but yes, her future options are a lot more limited now.
I'm pretty sure this is one reason for why she's so grateful to her fans for sticking with her and continuing to support her

>>25611685
Right now though she's still really in the honeymoon period. Look at the Kson Telemetry for the first few months after she switched full time to that to now. I think Mike might have such a massive dropoff and well either she doubles or triple downs on them or she goes even more menhra since they're "abandoning her"

>>25611379
>>25611497
No, you would never want to hire her because you don't like her. She literally got hired at Hololive when they were smaller despite previously leaking at a small corpo (this is incredibly common btw). Another small corpo? VShojo? They wouldn't care if they think she can pull in viewers and donations.

>>25611685
I'd say she is too big to really benefit from a corpo gig based on her current numbers, but said numbers are prone to go down. Plus she's a menhera that NEEDS a tard wrangler, so it may actually not be the worst idea. Especially if it is a corpo that doesn't take a SC cut.

>>25611309
>bro they forgot the u in the romaji LOL
n5 moment

Why would they watch whores when they can just walk down to the nearest brothel and get their dick moisturized?

>>25603927
Ok who's gonna tell him?

>>25612108
I wouldn't be opposed to her getting some sort of manager or something who would actually work in her best interests and I'm pretty sure she herself has mentioned this a few times, but I don't think it's come up recently.
She's been acting a lot better now than she was a month or two back. Pretty much completely ignores antis on Twitter and does most of her tweeting from a sub account so that she gets less anti harassment.
There's definitely of benefits from being in a corpo, especially one that could actually organise shit for her, so it's a shame. I think her only current long term goals right now are getting her mental health back to an acceptable standard to stream on YouTube and reaching 1 million subscribers, so it's probably not time right now to think too much about future plans.

>>25603927
>puerto rican female 15 years old or older
>has not given birth
Choose ONE (1)

>>25600124
>pikamee
Just came to pile up on you for how dumb you are.

>>25603927

>>25603976
To be fair, I wouldn't be against Kson leading her own agency, but grabbing on vshojo's brand (as big or small as it might be) probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Saves her some work.

>>25613090
She has 2 managers to do the work for her.

>>25613090
Kson can be the face of an org but I don't see any reason to believe she'd be good at or even enjoy actually running one. She just wants to stream and have fun, not do boring management stuff.

>>25610456
It just JP companies being autism.

>>25600124
holy shit this is disgusting as fuck

>>25612174
>they officially mispronounce a word, turning into another one
>i-it's not what they meant
Maybe they should not be incompetent then

>>25613631
Japan has no fair use and way stricter copyright laws

>>25613269
>She just wants to stream and have fun, not do boring management stuff
But she asked to join Holo as a management staff and not a talent? Though that was a while ago now

>>25614626
Pikamee reacts to videos just fine.

>>25599411
that JAV actress, forgot her name

>>25599411
triangle

>>25614722
Anything that's not JP I guess. Kson said she can't watch Japanese videos on Twitch.

>>25599411
It will be full of whores just like the EN version

>>25608468
That's the reason the Kson rrats have been so strong. The idea of her joining another typical corpo doesn't seem likely, but no restrictions + getting to join in a managerial role if her becoming the face of a branch is a thing aligns a little too perfectly. And most importantly she'd keep her Kson name and brand which are definitely far too big to abandon now.

Unironically her and dad will fucking seeth but take it.

>>25600323
VOMS is dead bro, it died with that magnet girl.

>>25600352
She pretty much changed her character anyway. No one would even know "isekai loli Pikamee" is the same vtuber unless you told them. I'm not even sure VOMs owns that model, it might be hers alone.

>>25599411
>Japanese whores
This is why vshojo shouldn’t exist. I blame Nyanners for being a breathing whore that likes to ruin everything! If she didn’t went up to other vtubers and start up a company, then this wouldn’t had happen! Fuck Nyanners and her other whores! Except for Melody (she’s cool), she should leave and continue doing her stream in chatterbate.

>>25603927
>>25605087
Hahaha oh no

>>25614634
That's not true. The story has been mixed up and parroted here a lot but really happened was that about a month after debut she wanted to have gen 4's manager replaced with herself because supposedly that person wasn't doing a thing. She was told she couldn't be both talent and manager at the same time so that was the end of that.

>>25617207
I hope this bitch stays gone.

>>25603184
If only

>>25603184
>Hitomi Tanaka
Fuck yeah!

>>25599411
why do you think kson will join vshojo?
>because she has collaborated with vshojo about 3 times.
just that?
>she also rait different members like 3 times too.
...

>>25618297
Because it's a prime opportunity for her to become a figurehead of an agency like shw always wanted, with other people doing the heavy lifting for the difficult parts, and she has tons of Japanese indie friends who would jump on the opportunity to join with her, and because this is basically the only way for her to do this keeping her model and identity without starting a whole new agency from literally nothing all alone

>>25603184
Kson and Kaho possible. Mikeneko probably not and last I heard Hitomi Tanaka is a boomer when it comes to working with technology.

>>25608092
>>25609248
Imagine being this much of a newfag to not know about the holocaust

>>25618614
It’s different on twitch sadly

>>25600124
Fuck you normalnigger

>>25599411
You're retarded if you think Mike would join this fucking shitheap

>>25618748
Idk something screams nda

>>25618748
VShojo doesn't have a bad reputation in Japan, they're liked even on 5ch.

>>25618903
Doesn't matter, only clueless morons would think mike would even consider joining this
You know nothing

1st gen
Kson
Mikeneko
Noel
Matsuri

>>25618984
How come vshiters are always talking shit about holo but then want to recruit their members?

>>25618934
She follows VshojoJP VP who is a nobody. Kson, her only friend, is going to join. If she doesn't join it's because she's too menhera to apply or can't pass due diligence.

>>25618984
>Noel can finally get fucked on camera like she always wanted.

>Thinking that Vshojo, a group that had trouble with people getting doxxed from scammers, would hire an NDA breaker and risk doxxing from the source

>>25618984

>>25619123
>She follows VshojoJP VP who is a nobody
Probably a follow back. That guy is following both of her twitters, and he's still following Rushia's twitter.
She hasn't bothered following the official VShoujo Twitter, either EN or JP

>delusional holobronies still think other groups want their sloppy seconds
Kson aside, hololive has too many boring and lazy streamers, I'd rather we get different talents than recycle old memes

>>25618903
vshojo doesn't have that bad of a rep in the west except pink cat and 4ch

>>25619304
She only follows 218 people out of 450k followers. You think it's "just a follow back" that she follows the VP of VshojoJP?

>>25618984

>>25619475
Figuring out the logic behind who she chooses to follow is still something beyond her general here. Some follow choices are very obvious, but some are bigger headscratchers. I imagine she looked at this profile, saw that he was involved in vtubing in some way and followed back. She's followed far worse people anyways, so it's not really a concern.

>>25619670
She ignores tons of people who are involved in vtubing who follow her. It's not some crazy random coincidence she is close with kson now and is following the VP of kson's new org, no matter how hard you cope.

>>25599411
Is vshitshow ready would be a better question, they have nothing to offer for a Japanese chuuba.

>>25618422
Tell me you've never seen it without telling me you've never seen it.

>>25620046
>It's not some crazy random coincidence she is close with kson now
She's always been close to Kson, though. Back in Hololive too.
Rushia was one of the few Holos actually following Kson (well, before her termination). She actually only started following Kson on her Mikeneko account around March or so.
She's also stated multiple times now that she won't even collab because she's afraid of people who are involved with her getting attacked by her antis, an attitude only further strengthened by the Genshin incident. She even changed her Inst*gr*m profile to tell people to stop harassing her follows. The idea of her joining a corpo at this point is genuinely zero

>>25620115
Holocope

>>25620161
I'm not saying she will join. I know what's going on. I'm saying it's not some freak coincidence she is following that guy when she doesn't even "follow back" kuroneko, this is the new kson org and she has put out feelers to join, obviously.

>>25620282
>she has put out feelers to join, obviously
As I've just said, she's stated multiple times now in various Twitcasts that she doesn't want to get involved in things with other people, so unless you're trying to say she's a liar, I don't see why she'd be putting out feelers to join. Do you even listen to her casts?
She's not following any Holo roomates anymore, so that last point is just irrelevant.

>>25605087
She has a kid, anon. It was before the illness kicked in. She talked about it exactly once on stream as Ironmouse (forma de Babymouse). She also used to have a a dozen of tweets talking about her daughter.

>>25620473
>so unless you're trying to say she's a liar
Well, I mean, current precedent isn't exactly favourable...

>>25620629
Look, anti-kun. If you want to call her a whore, just call her one. Stop beating around the bush like some woman

>>25603927
>>25605087

either you are trolling or you have immense willpower as to not click those links.

>>25618686
>Sadly
What level of tribalism are you on where requiring permissions is a good thing.

>>25618422
There are agencies in Japan that take existing chuubas under their wing, that new SONY group VEE is one example. I always laugh at vshitshow fags who think their "talent first" marketing spin is something revolutionary in the industry. Btw I do think starting her own thing from scratch would be the best option for kson in theory but if she have the energy for that is a different question.

>>25620719
What links, schizochama? There aren't any links in this thread

>>25620473
>says she wont play apex
>plays apex anyway
Yeah she's a liar. But this isn't even a lie lol, saying she's turning down offers is not the same as saying she will never join a new org. And she should, she needs to be tardwrangled, who knows if it will ever happen.
And sorry not following back masimasi or kuroneko but following the Vshojo VP actually does send a message.

>>25620863
>>says she wont play apex
>>plays apex anyway
Did you get this second hand? She said "I am not currently playing Apex", which was true.. She never said "I'll won't play" Why would she even say that she won't play a game?
Just curious, in case I'm wasting my time here, but is there any reason you're having this fit about her? You're jumping from topic to topic now for no reason. Have you been browsing our generals? That APEX thing was back at the end of March and was already 100% addressed, so I can't even understand the need to bring it up again unless you're attempting to bait people here who aren't as well informed about her every post like the generals are

>>25613631
If you ignore pernissions Japanese companies will strike you, that's what started the holocaust. Also even if you can get away with it Japanese audience would see things like that as shady.

>>25615032
Japan is based, react meta is retarded and part of the reason why I hate twitch in the first place.

>>25621054
>Did you get this second hand? She said "I am not currently playing Apex", which was true.. She never said "I'll won't play" Why would she even say that she won't play a game?
It's so crazy you can say this but take "I'm not collabing" to mean some some sort of definitive statement that she won't join an org, even though her friend is joining.

>>25603495
pretty sure she's in agency or a group already

>ctrl+f
>Kson
>mikeneko
wow, you guys really only posts the only names you know, you're really newfags in vtubing business

>>25620713
>anti
Lmao. Not everyone that dislikes the necromancer is an anti, fandead-kun. I wasn't even the anon you were talking to

>>25621287
If she changes her mind, she changes her mind. But you're acting like this has already been settled. It hasn't, and as I said, everything points towards her not joining.
But continue seething here, schizo. You're well enough informed about her that I've just realised that you definitely lurk our threads. Lurking the threads of a girl you hate for months, arguing with her fans for months. You're deranged, and I hope even the fuckers on this board can recognise just how much of an unironic schizo you are.

>>25621468
If you're arguing with her fans constantly, you are an anti. Our usual thread schizo also gets pissy when someone calls him an anti.

>>25621461
vshojo doesn't accept nobodies, they only go for big names

your 20 indie should apologize to the management for applying and wasting their time

>>25621483
I've never said it's settled. I've actually said the opposite and you're just not listening me. And I don't hate her or you either I just hate cope and lies.

>>25621519
>If you're arguing with her fans constantly
But... I'm not? I don't remember the last time I replied to a Fandead other than today, and I certainly wouldn't go to your general to shitpost as I consider that your "safe zone", just as I would hope most anons would stay out of my oshi's general.
I under stand you've been through a difficult trimester, but reign in that persecution complex of yours a bit.

>>25609719
Vshojo doesn't have much brand power outside of this platform though so it would be pretty pointless, there is a reason why niji EN streams mostly on youtube even when they're recruited from a POG twitch indie circle.

>>25621593
That's fine, then. Our generals have a minimum of 5 antis and at least one of them (who I can now see is the poster just above you) shitposts literally everywhere about her: her two generals, Hololive Global (both on /jp/ and on here), threads vaguely about her and sometimes threads about other talents (I've seen him in both an Ayame thread and a Flare thread), And as I said to him, if you read his reponses, he's clearly lurking every day and arguing with her fans for little to no reason
The reason he messed up on that APEX part was that the account she made that statement on was actually a private account only a few thread regulars could follow, so he's trying to piece together information based on the conversations that were had in our thread last March. I think that should give you an idea of how dedicated this particular schizo is.

>>25599411
Great, let all the whore join so i can filter them easier

>>25621583
Ogey schizo

>>25599954
>followed by Mikeneko and Macoto ASMR

interesting

>>25621765
You're saying all this but it's basically The Telltale Heart, you're the schizo. Since you're so interested I'm closer to a former fan.

>>25621765
Sounds rough but frankly, I don't care. I only came here to shitpost a bit. As I said, your general is NG, but anything outside of it is fair game, even if it's made by the anti schizos that lurk your threads.

>>25622039
No worries, then. I'll respect your decision to keep out of our general while also calling you a faggot if you shitpost about her. Think we can agree with that? Apologies for confusing you with that other faggot
.>>25621969
Why not be a decent former fan and fuck off? It'd be better for you, us and even her if you just stopped following her and found something better to do with your time. To think a person like you used to love the same woman I do.

>>25599411
kson won't be selling out to vshitshow

It'd be career suicide and she already had one incompetent agency....why work with another?

kson can make her own...she doesn't have to drive fans away by joining melody's yab club and be associated with bad apples such as pink cat and veibae

>>25600124
how fucking dare you suggest that pika should join that den of whores

>>25622265
>be associated with bad apples such as pink cat and veibae
She already is

>>25622188
I think I'll stick around and keep correctly pointing out it's weird that she's following the Vshojo VP if she would "definitely never join them" according to schizo Western fandead.

>>25622188
>Think we can agree with that?
Indeed, fancuck-san. See you in another thread

>>25622420
Farewell, catalog shitcunt. Here's a picture of my super cute wife to see you off (love her so much)

>>25618546
"Kindly yet inherently slutty grandma trying to get the darn streaming box to work" is guaranteed dimes.

>>25622358
Her continued success must be really getting to you, man.

>>25611866
I don't think Cover was even aware of her past at the time. She was in a microstartup that collapsed, many such stories in the early chuuba industry and even today you have no shortage of shit companies taking advantage of it's members even her antis didn't brought this up much before that kore kore stuff surfaced and I bet most normies still think it was all about the boyfriend or something. I can see Vshojo hiring her with that "fuck idoru culture" mentality only to get fucked by internal drama a month later.

>>25617090
EOPs are delusional and uninformed in other words.

>>25623674
hahahhahahhahhahahahhahahhahahah go back

>>25618903
Vshojo doesn't really have any reputation in Japan to speak about

https://streamable.com/g1ecxx

>>25612309
I've never seen an indie hire a manager that wasn't just charging them for doing nothing/making things worse.

>>25599560
All the ENs did.

>>25621533
Big names in Japan wouldn't join some no name foreign org, I don't think Maha5 JP did too great for example.

>>25619076
Because they suck unless they go/interact with their console.

>>25624062
If Phase Connect manage to find people willing to join them VShojoJP can

>>25621921
Imagine if the boyfriend yab was a plan to ditch Holo for the future of VshojoJP

>>25624785
Specially if they pull a: ''We have kson, michael, Noel and Matsuri!!''

>>25621969
ok anti

>>25623195
He has already admitted that he's just bitter she still has a ton of fans who love her.
It's just funny to watch him seethe this much now.

>>25625232
When we did a poll in the general last month, it was revelead that more people joined the general after the termination than had joined in the entire year beforehand.
There might legitimiately be more nekofami regulars there now than there were before all of this shit.

>>25621969
Are you going to be here with us when we all celebrate her 1 million subs milestone?

>>25624785
People are insane if they think VShojo couldn't find people. They're well funded and well connected, in fact they're frequent collab partners to both Hololive and Nijisanji in the west, there's no reason to think it would be different in Japan, if anything they're less anal about collab permissions there.

>>25599411
Any jav star whose done blacked

>>25624697
>Maha5 JP
Geez, didn't even know they existed.

I can 100% see Amai Hiyo joining Vshojo JP.

>>25617897
Isn't Hitomi Tanaka retired already, we might actually get a unit with her, Kaho and Anri

>>25600124
>Vshojo retard who doesn't even know Kson is self incorporated and Pikamee is already owned by an artist

>>25625377
I'm sure they can find people, but anons are delusional if they think big ones like mike or even kson have any reason whatsoever to join, there's no benefit for them, no one big in japan needs vshojo's brand, vshojo needs THEIR brand

>>25600107
They won't need perms, since the company is US based. Japs can't sue Vshojo.

>>25599411
>checks the dates
Coincidence

>>25628611
Brand isn't all you get out of it. There's also resources + support. VShojo did practically all the backend work for the recent IRL Japan Kson and Melody collab.

>>25628919
Around the same time

the last person I'd ever want to work for is Mowtendoo

>>25599411
>>25628919
>>25628990

>>25628938
>There's also resources + support
Which is not free, vshojo must get something out of them, and from what I understand it's some merch rights, and again, it's not something that someone as big as mikecat or kson need

Michael is a psychotic whore currently involved in a lawsuit
Kson has expressed on her stream several times she will never work for anyone but herself as long as she vtubes
But I guess western clipniggers and twitchtards only know their little bubble anyways

>>25599560
Why would they want to give the share of the money to them?

>>25629157
Their talents doing well and increasing their profile by association is what they get out of it. VShojo doesn't get merch rights, they only get a portion of merch sales, and only from stores that they set up and manage. Silvervale and Zentreya both have sides stores they run entirely on their own with no input from management and VShojo gets no cut of that.

>>25629157
VShojo only gets a portion of merch sales from stores they set up and run. Zen and Silver both have separate storefronts they manage entirely by themselves without any input from management, so they get to keep everything from those. As for what they get, their talents doing well increases their own brandpower by association.

>>25618984
Noel fucking hates Rushia and she is never leaving Hololive.

>>25629157
Letting your workload to another for some money is ideal, also the sense of ''companionship'' these vtuber groups provide is a good dose of dopamine for the zoomers, if anything Kson and michael cat would be retarded not to join because they can keep their models, their rights and dip the fuck out with everything whenever they want.

>>25629230
>Hate and revenge boner for Cover
>She would just do that and leave the legal stuff to vshojo team
We are talking about women anon, they change their mind pretty quickly

>>25629462
God you're a fucking idiot
Yeah, lets destroy all good faith Vshojo has with Cover and also Kson in which they're all her friends still

When does Shibuya Kaho join VShojo

>>25629412
>also the sense of ''companionship'' these vtuber groups provide is a good dose of dopamine for the zoomers
You're talking about the same kson and mike that left their friends (as vtubers) to go indie? Also they can freely interact with anyone even outside of vshojo
>Letting your workload to another for some money is ideal
And they can hire a manager or employee themselves, not like vshojo's track record is that stellar
There's simply not a BIG reason to join vshojo, they need to offer something that they can't get by themselves or have something that only vshojo members get access to

>>25629157
>Can keep rights and model
>Can mostly do anything you want
>Keep full income from stream, lose only part of merch sales and I think sponsorships
Come on its the best deal out of any of the corpos by far. Management is incompetent but that applies to literally every corpo. I know Coco made a shit ton of money via merch and sponsorships, but does Kson really get that much from those venues as an indie? I thought those tended to not be that big for indies.

>>25629546
This is Kson we're talking about, she only needs a word here and there to convince Holos to slowly quit for Vshojo since they see her as a kind of god just for being american, will I like the destruction of Hololive? fuck no, I love my menhera roleplayers, but it is evident Cover is going full corporate shilling with their girls instead of letting them stream, remember how Korone had a break because of a really bad health issue and Cover kept pressuring her to do stuff? she even said she yelled at her manager '' I AM SUPPOSED TO BE RESTING, LEAVE ME ALONE!!'', what does that tell ya?

>>25604067
Saw her on a japanese meme video once. What's her backstory?

>>25629796
coco had 2 sponsorships in her whole time at hololive
kson has had like 8 already

>>25629736
>You're talking about the same kson and mike that left their friends (as vtubers) to go indie? Also they can freely interact with anyone even outside of vshojo
You mean the dragon spammed by chinks everyday and sponsorships next to 0 for her friends by just existing and the one retarded enough to get fired for breaking contract?
>And they can hire a manager or employee themselves, not like vshojo's track record is that stellar
There's simply not a BIG reason to join vshojo, they need to offer something that they can't get by themselves or have something that only vshojo members get access to
Belonging to something ''BIG'' is more than enough, remember Coco wanted to have many 3D lives and concerts, even her idol outfit, she wants to do that stuff again with others, and those others are Vshojo.

man this ad really rattled the antis
can't wait to see fubuki collab with vshojojp

>>25630062
I want ironmouse to interview subaru

>>25629796
>Can keep rights and model
>Can mostly do anything you want
>Keep full income from stream
They can do this as indies
What do they get from vshojo that they can't get from hiring an employee/manager themselves?
Friends and collabs is not an answer, they fucking left holo

>>25630167
Rushia: Fired

Coco: Pushed to graduation by chinks harrassing her friends livelihood

Yeah, they hated holo alright.

>YOU KNOW WHO WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THIS PSUEDO CORPORATION?
>TWO WOMEN WHO HATE VTUBING CORPORATIONS YEAH

Do western retards really?

>>25630047
>Belonging to something ''BIG'' is more than enough,
They belonged to FUCKING HOLOLIVE, I doubt they give a shit about being in a big company anymore and vshojo isn't even big in japan
>remember Coco wanted to have many 3D lives and concerts, even her idol outfit, she wants to do that stuff again with others, and those others are Vshojo.
Anon... Vshojo is a management company, not an idol company.

>>25600124
I see your bait has excellent quality. Good job.

>>25629863
I literally watch Kson
Let me reiterate, you're a fucking idiot

>>25630246
>reading comprehension
Never said they hated holo, they left holo

They're back for revenge

>>25630167
Having an entire support team can't be understated. And hiring one is expensive, when you can just get them for joining a group. Like the aforementioned IRL Japan stream, Gunrun was in chat the entire time both watching the stream and on standby for tech support help whenever there was a hiccup.

>>25631045
>Having an entire support team can't be understated.
This is the same vshojo that had the most infamous collab of all time
In fact I would say Kson got special privilege because she wasn't from vshojo and because she's one of the biggest vtubers that has contact with their group, but that kind of support doesn't seem to be a given from being inside the company

>>25631284
That was only infamous here. Most people outside of /vt/ were fine with it. Pomu and Finana both gave Zen a birthday video because of that collab lol.

>>25629243
Perhaps you should try to find out what an agency does first.

Anons, I present to u the list where the upcoming vshojo jp branch members are hiding in.

ANYONE IN IT IS A POTENTIEL MEMBER!!

Comes from the following list of the VP (Loutlot) of the JP branch himself.
https://www.twitchdatabase.com/following/loutlot

>>25631491
>GAWR GURA IS IN
>KSON IS IN
>PIKAMEE IS IN

LETSGOOOOO

>>25631491
>hololive

>>25603927

>>25631491
pekora is in kek

>>25631491
IRONMOUSE IS IN???

>>25600323
Pikamee is the only important member of VOMS.
Tomoshika is just like any other average vtuber who isn't a 2view and doesn't matter either and the other 2 are genuine 2view.
MOST of TMSK's, Miuneru's and DMJ's came from Pikamee. If she leaves, the other 3 are over.

>>25631491
BASED VP

lmao

>>25630998

>>25621375
she is an indie

>>25619076
Our thread is a breeding ground for baiters and you guys take it just as often as we do.

>>25630553
>Expecting Kson to be like ''HI GUYS, TODAY I'M POACHING SOME HOLO TALENTS TO VSHOJO
How retarded are you?

>>25631491
>Van Darkholme
nyan-chan... gachi collab... doko...

>>25624900
That's a shit plan because she could just go and quit had she wanted, after her holofes performance and with a big graduation concert etc.

You just know all the people saying kson would never do it also said Coco would never leave hololive.

Why won't this cancer just die already? No one wants these ewhores

>>25631612
>PIKAMEE IS IN
VOMS backup

>>25599411
isnt vshojo 11 mil in the whole?

>>25599411
Oh god considering the state of boyfriend corp aka vshojo i dont see how any japs would want to watch. The jap market is idol culture, i dont think they'll enjoy the cuck shit like the western guys apparently do. Tho like half of the current members dont even stream so i guess they could use some ppl who actually do their job

>>25638338
I think you misunderstood, when someone gives you 11 million dollars you are not down 11 million but rather up 11 million

>>25638518
Vshojo confirmed boyfriends:
Nyanners
Veibae
Hime Hajime (lawfully wedded husband)

Hololive confirmed boyfriends:
Fauna
Mumei
Gura
Mori

I rest my case

>>25628938
Which is a nice gimmick you might use for a stream or two even if you're not a part of this company (just like you don't have to join to collab with their members on a regular basis, sometimes more than they would collab between themselves) but without connections with Japanese brands, artists, producers etc. it all seems rather pointless and they certainly don't know how to deal with the controversy and backlash, even on their own Western market they had that whole Nux Taku disaster.

>>25630047
>Belonging to something ''BIG'' is more than enough, remember Coco wanted to have many 3D lives and concerts, even her idol outfit, she wants to do that stuff again with others, and those others are Vshojo.

kek Vshojo doesn't really have shit like that, the most advanced tech they have belongs to Melody for the purpose of virtual cam shows and I don't think she developed it much after going cheap and breaking with DigitrevX... All they do this days is leeching off some big twitch streamers, anitubers, shippers etc. I honeslly can't see it helping kson, she doesn't keep up with burger zoomer culture and wouldn't hold her own with English banter either, especially with the likes of ADHD manchildren like sodapopin or those other loud faggots. Even fucking conur completely ignored her when they had a minecraft collab and he's not even one of the toxic ones. Not to mention she doesn't have a boyfriend, can't really talk about the boyfriend stuff or shipp herself with dudes etc.

>>25599411
What happened to their English hires?

>>25638695
I'm pretty sure you have to MAKE BACK your investment

>>25629863
That you forget that Ayame and Shion are still members.

>>25639609
They never stream(dieing mouse and tranny dragon aside)and have both autism and mental illnesses

>>25639654
People really don't understand how VC works, huh? It's not like a loan. VCs give out $10 million to 20 different companies on the expectation that one of them will become a unicorn (i.e. reach a $1 billion valuation) and they will make back their entire investment from just that one. They're not seriously expecting every single company they invest in to succeed or even pay them back, they know most of them never will, and they're certainly not breathing down a company's neck mere months after the initial investment.

>>25639741
Veibae has been streaming again lately but who knows, she might take another week break for no reason again.

>>25628887
Oh wow! suddenly Japanese citizens don't have to abide by Japanese laws or Japanese copyright takedowns because they're working for a US company!

>>25631045
Vshojo doesn't really provide much of a "support team" they neither take nor give much other then branding that doesn't mean much in Japan and outside of twitch, platform that kson only uses as a side thing for Western audience.

>>25638803
They don't need shit like that because they can organize and contact people who are able to make it happen. That's why they were at VILLS.

>>25629891
company breaker, mahjong cheater, fat ass

Kris makes her debut and sweeps hololive all by herself.

>>25640259
Vshojo got their chuubas to perform at JP chuuba concerts, got them a bunch of interviews with organizations like BBC, crunchyroll and other internet publications, got them collabs with big normalfag streamers and youtubers, got them in events like twitch rivals, got them to guest speak at anime and vtuber conventions, they have contacts with top riggers and artists, have music producers and asset creators on retainer for BGM, animations, background art and all the other fluff you need to make your stream feel high quality, they provide tech support and organize collabs, etc etc
that's a lot more than just branding and a very attractive package for any indie looking to grow without having to dedicate 20 hours a day to handling all this stuff herself only to get burnt out when the time comes to hit the "live" button

>>25640259
None of the corpos really provide much of anything, the main difference in Holo/Niji vs. indie is the company both makes and owns the model. The real advantage is simply being in the corpo which gives you an automatic ecosystem and draws in fans.

>>25640829
Weird how all the vshojo girls are burnt out and depressed constantly when everything is done for them...if you've watched any of their streams you'd know their is definitely issues with vshojo management

>>25599411
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MIKENEKO
>IN BOYFRIENDS CORPO
LOL
LMAO EVEN

Also let me ask you schizos. Do you honestly think that KSon, probably the biggest vtuber name ever, who was China against her, will join any type of agency that will strictly harrass the rest of the members and can effectively spark a war between ENVtubers and JPVtubers?

>>25641314
Kson has ambitions. She doesn't want to just spend the rest of her life putting together gundams while her eggs dry up.

>>25641314
I don't think vshojo vtubers are concerned at all about chink antis, they're on Twitch where they can easily moderate out the spam
Some of them were hit with worse last year like a guy buying thousands of bots to spam nyanners dox in their channels and it was dealt with pretty quickly

>>25641529
>>25641565
Those ambitions are effectively cut when you have China against you. And the bugmen are harsher than the spam bots that they have faced. She won't join VShojo JP, and she knows it is a better idea for her to remain indie.

>>25641314
From what I've seen of her, she's overly emotional and sentimental, plus she's stupid enough to get involved with both Vshojo and Nux. She's not nearly as smart as you seem to think if she's getting involved with every landmine along the way, anon.

>>25638803
> stop lying
For god sake, stop lying

Kson collabed Melody but Melody was not in normal state because of NUX and can't do it alone. Kson understood and Conor& Melody came to help them.

>>25603927
This is vacation bait

>>25641600
>And the bugmen are harsher than the spam bots that they have faced
How so? Wasn't it just a problem with cover being fragile as fuck?
Since she left kson has been doing just fine by herself even with the supposed chinese red army boogieman against her

Someone tell Uto about this as she wanted to join a corporation but wanted to keep her live2d

>>25641565
>Nyanners was hit with worse than Coco
>Litreally one guy vs chink central
>Somehow is worse....
Retardchama

>thread is about to reach bump limit
mental illness, you guys need help

>>25641907
nigger nyanners has had people dox and threaten her family and autists go and piss on her sister's grave
what did coco get? Some retarded moderator handing privileges to an anti in her chat and a bunch of mean messages?

>>25641991
Chinks literally spammed Aqua's superchat with death threats just because she said hi to Coco

>>25641821
Goddamn how much of a newfag are you....
The chinks left Coco alone adter she graduated, that was their end goal, graduating her and she didnt just faced chink bots but all of those faggots literally calling every sponsor Hololive had which cause a sponsor apocalypse, do your fucking reps before spitting bullshit.

>>25641600
All they can do is spam her chat. Stop making them sound like al Qaeda. She's definitely going to join and be the face of gen 1.

>>25641991
>>25642081
You clearly have no idea what the Coco harrasment has gone into.

>>25641991
>>25642081

This: >>25642062

DO YOUR FUCKING REPS NEWFAGS OR STFU

>>25642091
Man you are probably a zhang yourself making them into invincible boogeymen like this. "Nothing can stop the bugs just surrender wah wah" sounds like CCP propaganda to me.

>>25624975
This is the dumbest headcannon you're trying to force here

>>25642062
So again it was just a problem with cover being fragile as fuck and throwing their talents under the bus over a nothingburger
You retards blow this shit way out of proportion to appear dramatic and gargle on yagoo's weak ass balls

>>25642274
Like streamer like audience, I guess. Can't even stop yourself from talking about gargling balls kek

>>25642274
>Cover being fragile
>Thinking they had power over sponsors leaving them cause of chinks calling them with complaints
Nigga are you perhaps retarded? underage? because you cannot have so much little attention spam, Cover can be shit? hell yeah, but don't go around being a retard about what us Tatsunokos had to live.

>>25642426
How many vtuber channels did they actually get taken down? None? Sorry, but your proud ant farm is second fiddle to a frenchie disguised as an indog.

>>25618984
>>25624975
Dumb to even ask, but in what corner of your fragmented schizo mind does this scenario seem possible?

>>25642895
>Kson fiddles a lot with Vshojo
>Mikeneko hates fucking Cover
>Noel is talking way too much on roomate how much she wants to leave her ''other job''
>Matsuri would go anywhere she can take black cock on stream.

>>25642880
You mean PERMANENTLY taken down without the possibility of ever returning to youtube? or just a few days? because if it's the latter it would just confirm to me that you are a massive retard to think that is worse than having 0 sponsorships for all of your girls and company.

JP bros. Who is this? Is she popular?

>>25643179
Looks like a wannabe veibae sister

>>25638518
>The jap market is idol culture
Not anymore desuwa.

>>25600124
Would be very based. My dream team if I am being honest. Rumao at all the holobrony tears.

>>25643139
nigger you're acting like hololive never got any sponsorships after september 2020, simmer down

>>25641600
VShojo is in good terms with Nijisanji so they are not gonna antagonize China.

>>25643139
Again this is actual zhang agitprop or at best doomposting. It's not impossible to have sponsors just because China hates you and it's not like Holo had no sponsors between the Taiwan yab/would have no sponsors now if Coco hadn't graduated. Whether she can personally handle the hate is a different story.

>>25643179
no way

>>25643543
>It's not impossible to have sponsors just because China hates you
At that time it was because veyrone was kneeling down to china, right now they are a fucking joke, but back then.... oh boy.

>>25643179
Doesn't sound like a new member. "New project" isn't how you announce a new talent. Unless the new project IS VShojo JP in which case it would make perfect sense. Either way we won't have to wait long to find out.

>>25641214
delusional cuck

>>25643669
China won sis.

>>25644199
Nobody won. Coco graduated, HoloCN graduated and became literal whos, Hololive is out of China forever in the hardest way. Everything is worse for everyone involved.

>>25599411
Why would Kson and Mikeneko join a corpo at this stage?

Their names are already well-known, and they can collab with VShojo if they want to without joining.

>>25600124
>wanting vwhorejo to taint pikamee

leave and never come back

>>25644458
I wasn't talking about chuubas.

>>25644633
She's already collabed with and raided them multiple times.

Imagine if they got Babutaro
https://twitter.com/babutarofficial

>>25643722
oh noon JST? at least things will clear up soon then

>>25645389
o-oh, i guess that was the only announcement then, ogey

>>25645756
she hasn't tweeted yet?

>>25642081
Newfagchama...

>>25641828
If the sham audition rrats were true, vshitshow want new characters not imports any more.

They conned bankers for money, please understand.

>>25643179
Kagura Nana is a rather popular JP artist and designer mama for a handful of vtubers. She's also a cunnysseur.

>>25643179
big if true