/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

All it takes is one attractive female cosplayer to lift up their spirits and restore their faith in the fanbase

>>25584368
Many have attended conventions in the past and as such are well prepared for the reality.

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>>25584464
OH NO NO NO

>>25584414
Based. Fuck m*le fans.

>>25584414
How about a guy dressed as an attractive female cosplayer?

>>25584565
God the average Korean male must be absolutely mindbroken before they even leave their teens

>What do you think they think when they see what their fans look like for the first time?
You say that like they wouldn't already know.

>>25584368
They think "I'm so happy my boyfriend is really good-looking."

>>25584368
Does Mori's facetracker pick up her disgusted sneering or does she have to press a key to emote it?

they think: Thank god those losers exist. They cant function in real society and spend all their money with me.

>>25584674
They are broken at birth with circumcision. They are not even an Abrahamic faith nation, the women running it thought it would just be funny to mutilate men at birth.

>>25584443
and at the very least they're behind a screen and not even in the same city so they get to avoid the full "300 lb haven't showered for a week with pants full of shit and semen" convention experience.
What I'm actually curious about is if they sell things like autographs and come out with massive bags full of cash like other con guests do.

>>25584368
this is the cringiest thing I've seen in my life.
also, they are thinking about this >>25585207

>>25584368
I don't get why chuubas at cons are a thing
just stream

I don't know. I don't go to cons, they seem sketchy af. They are infamous for the amount of sexual harrasment that goes on there.
Also, seeing the obese, unkept, unwashed male otaku would give me second hand embarrassment

>>25586058
yumejo please have sex with me i live in london and am very very sexy nice dude

Cons can be big money if they cared enough to do more than just a room of people talking to one massive screen. They just need to do a little more investment in their EN chubbas to give a more personal meeting fans experience like most streamers do.

>>25584464
>>25584516

>>25584368
I mean, they are women I don't think we can really understand what they think on this issue. Clearly on some level a woman is capable of falling in love with something horrendous as real-life experience shows. But since they don't feel human emotions, it's unclear what motivates this. Vtuber fans are testing out the theory that if you just give her enough money, will she genuinely respect you. Because I can believe when Kiara streams and talks to her superchatters, she genuinely cares about them. But when I see them posting their selfies with her roommate, I can't see how she wasn't openly holding her nose at them. But it's possible since she already has the preset attachment to them online, that as long as she knows who they are, she can forgive the appearance easily.

>>25586286
You mean sex? I don't think that's legal in most places they hold cons.

going to conventions is fun as fuck

>>25585410
>What I'm actually curious about is if they sell things like autographs
I think they do, but like every other celebrity in the world, they prep them before hand. I can't remember which Holo said it, but they mentioned offhand that they had a lot of signing to do, which I took as they had a lot of signing of merchandise for conventions and stuff.

>>25586914
If you're a fucking loser. There's only two types of people who ever attend cons, the elites who are finding some way to monetize the experience without actually being a part of the culture that is beneath them (vtubers in this case) or the losers who need validation in their life and can't find it anywhere else but by traveling to hang out with strangers who also like the same children's media as them. The reason photos of people at meet-ups or cons are always so fucking gross is because the sort of people who get that validation lose the pressure to feel like they need to also be capable of blending in with regular humans too so they just go all-in on being this one minor aspect of themselves because they know they can get validation for it. There's nothing wrong with liking 4chan but needing to be surrounded by other people who openly also use 4chan to feel validated is pathetic behavior.

>>25587007
Kiara was doing signings a lot this convention but I'm unclear how everyone else does it because she was in person doing it while most of these people aren't even in the country the con is being held. Like did Irys sign anything for Dokomi? Idk.

>>25587150
yeah i'm thinking you should take your medicine

>>25585149
They press a key on their Iphone to do it.

>>25587251
Yes, it is people who don't make their public identities about the media they consume that are the problem.

What even is the point of a convention? You can buy the merch online, so is it the e-celebs that show up? If that's the case, why all the other stuff too? I've never understood convention people.

>>25587763
You can meet other vtubers with similar interests

>>25584368
Holy FUCK, look at that in the top right...

... they managed to get all Lazulight fans in the entire world into one room!

>>25587894
kek

Why are only Council fans fit and classy?
Is myth and Niji even trying?

>>25587763
You can have sex with fellow degenerates without having to ask if they are also into furry pedoshit because it's a given they are.

>>25587199
She had some signed cards from what I saw

how the hell do these people get so fat

All the NEETs I associate with are skinny if anything. You're just sitting at a computer all day, why the fuck are you eating lmao

>>25587007
I know Haachama did before, but it washer birthday merch IIRC

>>25588078
>Tronii

>>25587150
Are you usually this overdramatic about things or did someone make fun of your shitty closet cosplay so you held a grudge?

>>25584464
Wtf, guy's left thigh is slowly warping

>>25587728
what problem?

>>25587763
I just got back from one today. It's fun to make props & wear costumes then hang out and meet people with similar interests. Many also have decently large drinking/party scenes.
I also had to move across the U.S. from most of my old con friends so it's a decent excuse to see everyone.

>>25588677
Common knowledge about conventions shouldn't offend you so much. Their literal purposes are networking and/or validation of socially unacceptable traits, there's no other reason for them to exist. The fact that you are using the Internet right now means you inherently understand this and aren't just some troglodyte from a time when they would have theoretically served other functions the Internet does today.

>>25588987
I see, so it's a social thing mainly. I'd thought as much but wanted to confirm. I don't do drinking/partying, and have aspd, so the social aspect seemed like the main draw but without going I couldn't confirm. I appreciate it anon.

>>25584368
i also wonder this but with the fans of Fulgur Ovid seeing him for the first time

>>25588696
That his ass fused with his chair from sitting down for too long and can no longer stand up to socialize.

>>25587763
To fuck greasy unattractive nerd chicks that’s what the point is anon

>>25588696
Not partaking in homosexual culture.

>>25584368
Dunno but Ame stopped doing GFE after going to one of these.

>>25588078
KC Akisu is a fucking cringe schizo.

>>25588078
>fit and classy
>KC Akisu

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>>25590868
Kronii fans prepping for war.
Eat shit Doxbeats

>>25590955
the war on diet

>>25590868
That's the most /k/ image I've ever seen

>>25591076
Needs Brownies

>>25591102
What do you thinks' in the mag pouches?

The last JP meet and greet had private booths for each girl.
I wonder what was going on in there...

>>25585276
>circumcision
holy shit
did worst korea just decided to copy everything that is awful about the west or something?

>>25590868
The next school shooter

>>25591223
>about the west
about america yes

>>25587150
You will never be a woman...

>>25589295
As an aspie it might be your only experience of organic social interaction with strangers. Id honestly recommend going to just experience that and maybe learn from the experience.

>>25584368
conventions are extremely cringe
only retarded normalfags trying to LARP as otaku go to conventions

>>25591228
Not going to be some /k/ tard, it would be some other CIA goon forced to do it

>>25594727
This post reeks of self loathing

>>25589295
I've yet to go to anything even vaguely related to weebshit because it's going to fucking stick and there will definitely be some weird ass people, gone to PAX a couple of times and Comic-Con once and they were generally good experiences. Get a friend or two and go interact really, PAX has the benefit of there being stuff related to video games everywhere and quite a bit of not video game related stuff. While Comic-Con still had a lot of things outside of comics that you can do.

>>25590868
incredible

>>25594667
>>25595004
Aspd as in sociopath, not aspergers or something. I'm very high functioning, and I blend in perfectly fine amongst normal people aside from very few mistakes I make here an there in new situations so I don't know how I'm meant to react to certain things, but they're easily covered up. Empathy with others and understanding how they feel/the appeal of things I don't personally find appealing I tend to have some difficulty with if I don't have a good personal equivalent, and since I don't like large groups of people or people in general I can only assume to a certain degree without concrete confirmation or by directly observing others in the situation, which you can't do that well with pictures or videos on the internet. I can extrapolate from similar things, and from experiencing things first hand to try to simulate and understand how others feel, but a solid understanding is way easier if I'm just told by a normal person with normal levels of empathy and understanding of others, or just by a person who enjoys it directly. As to going to any kind of con, I'd prefer not to as I genuinely hate people and while I understand knowing others who enjoy a hobby can be of use to eat time discussing it with at work or something, I don't really get how meeting others who also enjoy them could be that fun as my enjoyment of my hobbies is purely self-centered, but I genuinely thank you for the advice.

>>25588078
>Fit
He's not and he needs to get his pants hemmed and taken in.

IMAGINE THE SMELL...

>>25595282
Based psycho
Im assuming by your explanation you've probably spoken to professionals about it, its pretty rare to hear someone talk about it so candidly. If you dont mind me asking, what is the appeal of vtubers to you?

>>25591228
he looks too happy to be fed groomed

GuraBae was fun at their event as they subjected volunteers to a batsu contest (2 truths and a lie, or 2 lies and a truth). Either the audiences loses to the batsu wheel, or Gura or Bae have to do it. Then there was the dude in the front row with a Gura shirt. He got a LOT of attention.

>>25584368
I mean say what you want about holo or niji appearances but my local con is inviting fucking VShojo. What a waste of money.

>>25596366
As if Kronii herself isn't an asset.

>>25584464
dude's legs are on backwards wtf?!!???

>>25591291
America is the west europe is in the eastern hemisphere.

>>25596303
Kronii...

>>25595282
I dunno why but your style of writing makes me read the text very quickly for some reason

it's good that you can't smell through a screen

>>25596303
>you've probably spoken to professionals about it
Somewhat. I've seen a therapist and been diagnosed but he did it so demurely I didn't even think to ask what it was, so only realized fully what was up later in life when I remembered I'd been diagnosed with it and got bored enough to look it up, which connected a lot of dots for me and made me realize why I hate normal people so much and why they act the way they do. In general, I don't care about how others view me unless it's advantageous to me or hurts me socially, which can cost me things I want want like job opportunities, so there's no reason for me not to speak of it candidly so long as it's on an anonymous place like this.

Now to stop wasting your time. The appeal of vtubers is that they're like normal streamers (which tend to be really boring unless they're funny/charismatic enough that even I'd recognize them as funny, and I've spent most of my life learning to be as charismatic and funny as possible to blend in and get a good social standing despite my mental hang-ups, so I have a high bar for funny) plus the anime aesthetic, plus the fact they're playing pretend as an anime boy/girl over that all at the same time. I feel it's really interesting to watch people juggle all this at the same time, so instead of getting bored of them just playing games, I can have it all at the same time, otherwise they'd probably bore me too. It may also be a kind of morbid interest as they're pretending to be an anime person, while I have to pretend to be a normal person all the time in public and constantly emulate the reactions I think people should have/expect me to have, so I guess that's pretty interesting to watch, but I've never really given it too much thought. Thinking about it now I feel like I'd be a pretty good vtuber kek
>If you dont mind me asking
You can ask me whatever you'd like, but I want to ask you things too if you'd be willing. What's the appeal of vtubers to you? Do you empathize with them in some way and that's somehow in the appeal? The way you asked the question seems to imply this.
>>25597032
I tried to write it as logically as I could, as it tends to let people understand my way of thinking a little easier than if I write it more "normally" and with more emotion to make them more comfortable, so maybe that has something to do with it.

>>25597749
My position might be different from most anons as im a fan of proformance art like stand up and improv in general, and streaming feels like a natural extension of that field. I like vtubers in particular because /vt/'s reactions to large events are incredibly entertaining to me, and i prefer to see someone playing a character. Aside from that i used to (and admittedley sometimes still do) use internet personalities like lets players as "surrogate friends" to get a sense of social fulfillment when i was younger and lonlier, so i do empathize with other people's experience as well. The best way i can describe it is that it feeds a "social hunger" isolated people feel that make people agitated and restless, and hearing a friendly voice has a soothing effect on that feeling.

>>25598670
Adding to this, i remember an instance where i told a joke in chat that made a streamer i liked laugh and i felt a huge rush of pleasure that cemented that memory in my mind extremely vividly. I imagine that feeling is probably the motivation for unicorns and whales to spend money on supas

I find it endlessly funny every time /vt/ tries to grandstand over the appearance of con goers, like it haven't been this way since forever but now you can somehow shit on everyone who likes that particular chuuba.

>>25590868
The deep fryer operator.

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>>25598836
I suppose I can understand that to a degree. When I make others laugh it's more about ME though, about how I was funny enough to make them laugh and about how that means I'm better than others who can't make people laugh, it strokes my ego so to speak, rather than caring whether my joke made them happier(?) or not. Usually when I get lonely I just do something I enjoy and that takes away the feeling just fine, too.

Cons are for normalfags, but the ugly ones - people who developed mental illness during lockdown because they couldn't socialize.

I think these girls started acting more disrespectful after these convention meets started, for example Ina’s rant in mori’s stream happened right after she met some takos. I don’t blame them I just wish they never had to interact with you people beyond chat

>>25599948
that chumbud pic will always represent the fanbase to me, why did he do it?

>>25600413
I feel like people forget those anime girl avatars are not the real actors. Many of these faggots would be the ones another vtuber is cringing at when they showed up to a convention. The problem with these conventions is not that the vtubers are being forced to interact with people beneath them but that the environment is one of these mentally ill people fucking worshipping them after tossing all dignity aside and ruining the illusion that the vtuber's supposed positive influence is actually impacting worthwhile people. It's cute to hear some chatter tell you that you brighten his day and that is a good thing no matter who that loser actually is. But it's another to see some 300-pound dude in his ahegao sweater excitedly showing you the merch he bought of the loli character you play.

>>25587199
>she was in person doing it
What, like she was physically there but still using her avatar? Like some wizard of oz shit?

>>25599443
I dont know if its quite the same, but i kind of understand what you mean. Theres a sense of pride and accomplishment at getting a good laugh out of people, and recieving attention from people you like makes you feel special and important. Its been my experience that focusing excessively on the self serving aspects of humor adds a layer of proformance anxiety and tension that hinders my ability to take action because it feels like im gambling my self worth on every joke, and im diverting mental resources away from focusing on the next joke or reading the crowd and i get distracted. It might be that the emotional stakes are higher for neurotypical people, though.

>>25584368
>What do you think they think when they see what their fans look like for the first time?
>Yep that's about what I expected. Oh that one is really fat. That being siad there are several attractive people here and they watch meee?

>>25600829
Yes. This isn't a secret since she openly talks about going to that convention. There are weirdos from the con who have selfies on their twitter with both Kiara from the one-on-one and her roommate doing her cosplay tour.

>>25584368
I think going to a vtuber panel at a convention is when you know you've got a problem. The less disillusioned girls probably think of it as a chance to connect with their fans. The rest probably think of it like a paycheck.

>>25584464
Average ironmouse/unityfag poster.