/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>94,165: Salome (Nijisanji)
>56,607: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>55,598: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>33,007: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,673: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,386: Miko (Hololive)
>23,642: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,680: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,822: Gura (Hololive)
>20,424: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>20,086: Matsuri (Hololive)
>19,430: Nerumero (Indie)
>19,154: Shion (Hololive)
>15,687: Botan (Hololive)
>15,675: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,816: Towa (Hololive)
>14,462: Luna (Hololive)
>14,424: Watame (Hololive)
>13,863: Kobo (Hololive)
>13,596: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,339: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,884: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,040: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,848: Noel (Hololive)
>11,698: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,531: Mio (Hololive)
>11,225: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,518: Ame (Hololive)
>10,483: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>10,181: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,042: Gatchman (Indie)
>10,006: Ratna (Nijisanji)

>>25530414
So, not as fast as Reflect? Gura wins again.

>>25530689
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7

>PER COMPANY
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Salome
1x: Haachama

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
42x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Salome
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

How fast did Marine's clips(not in shorts form) reach 1M back in 2021 summer?
She released a lots of Marine abuse videos.

Currently streaming

>>25530607
Ah yes, my favorite cartoon(?) Movie(?) Superheroes(?) Thingy
>ULTRATHICC

>>25530969
>5 ppl smash collab
>sub 4k
owakon

>>25530728
It was literally a viral short, for a Vtuber 5 times as popular as Gura, and it didn't even grow as fast as Reflect

Almost as if she's not anywhere near as popular as she appears to be

>>25530979
It's Tokusatsu you simpleton

>>25531032
>Losing to Bae playing a goddamn fucking VISUAL NOVEL
Cursed.

>>25530607
>GIANTESS FEET OP PIC
WTF NUMBERS IS BASED?

>>25530689
>94,165: Salome (Nijisanji)
>56,607: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>55,598: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>33,007: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,673: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,386: Miko (Hololive)
So this is the power of hololive without gen3.

>>25530728
Don't use Gura as shitpost.
Use Kuzukek Vampire, it's also faster and he had relatively similar sub back in October 2021.

>>25531206
>niji vs niji

>>25531032
Fighting game debuff pls undastando

>>25531239
More like CHANNEL debuff. Throw this on Shu's channel and I'm pretty sure it would break 10k.

Why is Pomu MGS so low

i never thought someone having such good numbers would make me feel indifferent. every time i see salami in the list it's just a shrug and then actual interest in what the numbers are below her

>>25531092
Was ultraman catagorized as tokusatsu?

>>25531292
Her numbers are faked, that;s why

>>25531292
It's a bot number that's why it doesnt vibrate with your /#/soul anon

>>25530607
Artist?
This is a based fella.

>>25531422
i think it's more that she started at the top. there was no development, no growth when it comes to character or viewership

>>25531548
>no growth when it comes to character or viewership
There is actually. It's called artificial growth or IPO Scam

>>25531525
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/76627870

I don't believe Salome is botted. I do think she's vastly over hyped and boring though with no unique content. Is this a common sentiment or does the majority of /#/ believe the IPO Scam rrat?

>>25531292
I feel the same, i prefer watching anya climbing from 380 viewer years ago to 2k streamer and her character development

>>25531797
it's just giga hype i think.

>>25531181
No, it's the power of Apex tournaments. Hololive really needs to do more min or events desu

>>25531769
Great, bless you anon.

>>25531797
Ok my kind sir
This has been talked for a fucking weeks ago
Do you really think someone can pull of 90k constantly with just like that? With the same amount number with miko/korekore/suisei 3d?
>Muh tap new market

>>25531280
Mogged by dead hag hatsune miku

Can we stop the salome timeloop already? Just redirect the questions to previous threads instead of timelooping every thread. It's the same fucking questions and answers every fucking time!

>>25531797
I'd be surprised if anyone actually believe the IPO scam thing

At this point, what exactly will convince anons /here/, that her numbers aren't bots or an ipo scam. What exactly needs to happen or point be given?
Just from observations it seems anyone who thinks its any of the above will never change their mind.

>>25532050
Miku is 15 this year anon! She is still on UOH ToT terittory!

>>25531982
then why doesnt everyone in hololive have the same ccv? salome's stats is just skewed because her powergap compared to her peers is huge

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqmyyDK2ww
100k in 4 hours. Is this good or bad for a 30 second video that's not a short?

There is something deeply wrong with this man. He needs to get off the internet forever. He won't though since he is an addict just like Michael Gato.

>>25532134
If Salome did a poll and it had engagement proportionate to her CCV within 20 minutes

Why the fuck won't anyone watch Bae? She's actually being incredibly entertaining with her voice acting and people just aren't showing up. Like why the fuck did that green whore get more views with her dogshit ASMR? Bae's not even getting overlapped this time so it makes no sense

>>25530689
>holo 15
>niji 13

>>25532356
>holo no podium

>>25532336
i'm sorry man, i really hate her voice. I'm sure he's a sweet girl, but i can't listen to her for more than a minute.

>>25532336
>Watching VNs

>>25532292
And this somehow wouldn't be coped with botted poll if they can cope with botted subs, comments, likes live and vod views? Not accusing you specifically for coping but that's basically every excuse I've seen so far among others.

>>25532284
At least it shows that he wasn't doing it just for the money but he actually is a real menhera, he should get help before it's too late tho

>>25532336
Wake me up when she streams Minecraft again

>>25532336
Supported males

Thanks for all the useful information.
I am Japanese, so sorry if my English is not good.

There is a bug in the collection of normal chat counts in hololyzer. It is currently being fixed. However, even if it is fixed, I am not sure if it will be as accurate as vrabi (and of course, I am not sure if vrabi is correct). There is also the issue of bandwidth budget. It will be fixed eventually, but don't expect much accuracy.

The image is a screenshot of my developing environment, the numbers are improved compared to vrabi. I am still working on some bug fixes and testing, which will be applied to the production environment soon.

However, hololyzer is a site made by one individual, so I am not confident of its accuracy. If you usually want to discuss the number of chats, I think you should use vrabi.

Also, to those who have defended hololyzer, thank you. I will do my best to make it as useful a tool as possible.If you have any requests, please contact me on twitter. English is also fine.

>>25532336
I'm watching her. Bae is a cutie!!

Number one female Niji

>>25532284
hes purposely trying to hook the hardcore female schizos. fuck that shit.

>>25532223
i love mumei

>>25532447
Thanks for trying to show the issues.

>>25532447
>Leddit spacing
YWNBJ, go back

>>25532447

>>25532284
Well neither situation is good. If it's money he is as shameless and manipulative as DarksydePhil. If he is a menhera he is just like Miguel Neko. Either way he needs to get off the internet forever.

>>25532447
Kys jap nigger

December 2021 HoloX new audience
>現在の1万越え枠数(巣窟ルール)
>ホロ:560 <-- new record
>にじ:153

>>25532409
No one has ever claimed botted comments or subs. Most people who believe the botting rrat think it's just the CCV which is unnatural, and other statistics are natural but look inappropriate in comparison to the CCV

>>25532336
Kinda tragic because Bae's solo streams are some of the most entertaining streams that I've watched.... I think she got put as being a Collab support streamer as her strong suit and ended up with people tuning her out whenever she goes solo.

>>25532658
You need to watch more streamers.

>>25532336
Her constant whining in minecraft actually made me turn the stream off last night, and I was watching Gura's perspective. She's just extremely annoying.

>>25532638
niji record to beat 348 (september 2020)

everyone responding to the faunaschizo, please don't

>>25532426
Towa recovered from it eventually. Why can't Bae

>>25532447

>>25532645
Guess they were just shitposting because I can definitely remember both being accused of bots too. Can never tell who's being serious or not when the hours tick closer to the evening in JST.

>>25532447
Thanks for your hard work friend

>>25532717
Towa is a man, why would a man not collab with other men?

>>25532696
september 2020 niji median. multiple 10k+. let see if salome bought new audience

>>25532447
Thanks Hololyzer anon. Glad you've caught the issue and have a fix incoming, since it was odd that it got broken at one point.

>>25532284
There isn't anything wrong with him.
His numbers were going down. He needed to find a way to reignite fujo and yumejo' interests and pretending to go menhera is a tried and true method.
Just wait and see him getting 20k, 40k-something with tons of SC on his coming farewell and later, return stream

>>25532685
Just saying it as I see it

>>25532447
ガイジスレへようこそ

>>25532336
This, but with Reine

>>25532731
NTA, but botted comments are so much easier to spot than botted viewers, but they exist in every comment section equally so it's irrelevant. They usually just link to some scam site.

>>25532336
Sorry bro, Bae's cool but I just avoid anything Mori and her extended universe

>Reimu horror game stream only 1k
>Anya 12hrs+ stream almost always above 2k
does she regret joined nijiEN?

>>25532284
>Is either a menhera whiny bitch
or
>An actual sociopath that's purposely manipulating his viewers to minimize damage to his income
Both which are absolutely fucking disgusting.

>>25532904
That's depends how they are configured. Chat bots do chat.

>>25532939
she gets to collab with males, so that would be a no

>>25532939
Am I wrong to assume that making it into nijiEN means being financially set? Maybe not for life but at least while she's a streamer

>>25533021
How desperate / thirsty must she be for that to be the case? Imagine a guy picking a worse job just because he gets to talk to girls in public at work

>>25530689
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,251
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696
3) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485
4) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 56,607

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
40x: Nijisanji
7x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko, Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.

next week HoloEN gen3

>>25533073
Nijisanji has no financial security at all. Hololive iirc pays a salary, and you're almost guaranteed a 5k+ regular audience with merch and the potential for sponsors. In Nijisanji, you blow up to 10k+ or you eventually bow out when you can't even hit 1k reliably. Reimu is in the latter set.

>>25533073
Probably. Being a chuuba from one of the big corpos definitely beat a junior position's salary. If you are popular, possibly most of senior positions, too (harder to say when it comes to managerial levels, though).

>>25532696
>Top YouTuberよりも多い同時接続者
Do nijiniggers really?

>>25533176
You wish

>>25533176
Actually look at a calander anon, you can set your watch to the hype cycle Cover uses for announcements. This ain't it

>>25533073
You talking about HoloEN or NijiEN?

>>25533073
considering their age they're probably throwing away whatever money they make, and i doubt most of them will last more than a few years

>>25531797
I'll believe she isn't botted when someone is able to conclusively identify where the fuck her 90k audience that magically show up for her stream and then magically disappear when she ends come from. Not even Kobo has this level of magic asspull

Alchemy star sponsorship for Shu and Alban. Interesting that the girls and the boys got their sponsorship announced today
https://twitter.com/AlchemyStarsEN/status/1533282471856439297

list now updated
>Elira: 7
Onmyoji in September, Project Sekai in november, Pronty in December, Alchemy Stars in January, Japan Cultural Expo in March, Genshin Impact in April, PUBG Mobile in May
>Pomu: 6
Onmyoji in September, Project Sekai in November, Princess Connect in January, Japan Cultural Expo in March, Cookie Run in May and Touhou Lost World in May
>Finana: 5
Onmyoji in September, Blue Archive in December, Princess Connect in January, Summoner Wars in April, Otaku's Adventure in May
>Petra: 5
Project Sekai and Alchemy Stars in January, AnimeJapan in March, Otaku's Adventure in May, CounterSide in June
>Nina: 3
Princess Connect in January, Solasta in April, PUBG Mobile in May
>Selen: 3
Project Sekai in October, Princess Connect in January, PUBG Mobile in May
>Reimu: 3
Princess Connect in January, PUBG mobile in May, CounterSide in June
>Rosemi: 2
Japan Cultural Expo in March, Solasta in April
>Millie: 2
Princess Connect in January, CounterSide in June
>Luca: 1
Genshin Impact in April
>Mysta: 1
PUBG Mobile in May
>Vox: 1
Cookie Run in May
>Shu:1
Alchemy Stars in June
>Alban:1
Alchemy Stars in June
>Enna: 1
Princess Connect in January

>>25533176
At least in septembr

>>25533217
says this when coco and kanata has to find part time jobs just to eat when they debuted

>>25532134
see >>25533306

>>25533176
They better give IRyS and Council new costumes first. Preferably 3D for IRyS too

>>25532284
>Muh parasocial fuck you L+ratio stuff
To
>Im gonna be ur bf
Fuck off, the inconsistency is disgusting

>>25533136
She's a chronoir fangirl so uh. And Reimu might be in the bottom, but she still get sponsorship, SC, voice packs, etc. thats more than small agencies in EN would give her in exposure and money.
>>25533217
If you can't get in Hololive, your best option is Nijisanji. Of course, JP or EN.

>>25533176
This is HoloX 3D month. No EN3 until July.

>>25533360
no

>>25533332
didn't they say that holo pay them 2-3 months after the debut?

>>25532493
Give me those 10 against Hololives top 10 any fucking day of the week

>>25533176
wave 6 of nijiEN

>>25533426
bare minimum like under 200 bucks

>>25533370
That's Finana who said it, not vox. He never said he would change his content, at best put a warning on the stream.
But Vox is very parasocial with his chat, he's very young and clearly the success and love from fans got into him to reach this point. good hes at least going to therapy for this I guess

>>25533155
>Kuzuha winning gold
Bullshit, remember when he "beat" Hal? Here is the real list.

>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,251
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696
3) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485
4) Subaru (Hololive) - 27,673

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aki, Haachama, Fubuki, Subaru

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
105x: Hololive
39x: Nijisanji
7x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
10x: Kuzuha
8x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.

>>25533482
which is why the "salary" thing is so dumb when it's so low.

>>25532939
I think if you're trying to make it you take whichever offer comes first and don't look back at what could have been, since there's no guarantee of getting into the other agency. Both careers give you opportunities.
Hell, look at Anya herself, she slowly pulled herself out of irrelevancy by massively improving as a streamer and entertainer. Sure, a bit of help from the box but both companies have that.

the latest in the search of the mystery niggas
added some indie events and big vspo/neo porte streams
something of note, ponpoko 24h had a decent chunk of niji watchers on those two parts (10% of total niji audience)

>>25533360
irys will be ignored all the way until she decides to graduate from all the neglect and mismanagement

>>25533306
From the math that anons did with the turnover rate on her viewers, she's got at least 25k actual humans coming and going in her streams. Unless those were actually bots, in which case she's only got 25k bots on rotation so they don't get caught.

>1k viewers
>260k subs
All that fucking drama for this?

>>25533561
That would legitimately kill all respect people have for Hololive, the more time passes the more or a ticking time bomb Irys is becoming and she'll take everyone with her if she graduates before being able to get any kind outfit/3D reveal

>>25533358
I haven't been reading all of their posts but I do believe some anons have begun trying to disect where they all go? I recall maybe 40% have been accounted for but I do not remember exactly.

The YouTube algorithm simply favored Salome. It's that simple. The same way the YouTube algorithm picked Kizuna Ai to be the star, the same way it picked Mito to be a star, the same way it picked Sora to incline and kickstart Hololive. Nijisanji just got lucky this time. Maybe Hololive will one day again too.

>>25533601
>JP stream for 100k
Well, achshually, according to my calculations she only got 25k
>Biggest EN chuuba of all time streams for consistent 15k
NOOOO SHE'S CULLED SHE HAS 100K VIEWERS I SWEAR LOOK AT THE LIKES LOOK AT THE COMMENTS AHHHHH

Holy fuckin these EN faggots and their cope is hilarious

>>25533650

>>25533650
As long as she's over 1k I'll call that a win. 3view is pathetic and you should just retire tier. Literal indies have those views.

>>25533723
>>25533727
>>25533601
>>25533717
I would believe you if nijiniggers didn't come up with a different answer every time you ask them, because they don't know either and are just making shit up. Look at this, in four posts we have three different answers

>>25533815
She's really entertaining, but you can't understand her, my favorite moment is when she says: "desu wa"

>>25533370
He is either insane or manipulative. Both of them paint him in a negative light. He needs to graduate. His words...

>The part that's hurting me more than anything else is the fact that ever since then, I've noticed that something that we've had has felt very different.

>On that stream where I laid down my boundaries, I said I was just an entertainer and that you were just "fans" and that line has been sticking in my head... and I know others in Nijisanji don't feel the same way and some of them encouraged me not to see it this way, but I can't see you as just "fans".

>I've tried really hard to think about the bigger picture and that as we grow there will be so many of you that it'll be impossible to treat you all like family, but I don't think I can do that.

>I genuinely don't think I'm capable of having an experience where there's any distance, where I act like I don't love you because I really do.

>When I said those things I was under so much pressure that I said quite a few things I don't think I meant. I wanted to make the situation go away because I wanted to protect myself and you as well.

>I don't think any fanbase wants to be associated with a really negative name and I wanted to say things that would draw away the criticism and make sure people saw you as the really wonderful bunch that I know that you are.

>What we have has always been a little bit different to what other people have, whether it's streamers or other celebrities, and I feel like... there has to be a middle ground, right? There has to be! I can't sacrifice how incredible it's felt to feel like I genuinely knew you. I can't get rid of that because this is so much more than a job to me now!

>I went into this wanting to have a bigger audience to stream to, and I got that, but what I didn't expect to find was a family that I felt I could go to when I was upset. I mean, look at me right now! This is the most vulnerable I've been in front of anybody in a long time and it's you I choose to do that with because I feel like I genuinely trust you.

>When I look at chat and see the amount of hearts, that feels real to me! ...I'm a mess. If you as a kind and supportive audience can look to me as a source of warmth, love, happiness, and comfort... then, if someone wants to call that a parasocial relationship, so be it. I don't want that to go away because that feeling is so important to me. This is not just a job anymore, this is just my life.

>When I was doing my karaoke after-party, I said I felt as if I owed you my life, and I feel that I do. I really feel I do. I really don't want the feeling that we have on these streams to change at all because not only was it soothing and made you feel loved... it made me feel loved as well, perhaps more than I have in a very very long time.

>I've had conversations with some friends and some people were surprised that I prioritized you all just as much as my real friends. Some people thought that was weird and I can see why. My real life has to be... well, that's the thing, THIS is my real life now... I wake up in the morning to stream and I go to bed at night so that I will get enough sleep to be fully awake for my next stream, that is my life now and I've never been happier for that to be my life now.

>>25533696
Man, you really love to blow everything out of proportion don't you. IRyS caused this mess in the first place by not bitching hard enough at management. Suisei was able to force shit to go her way through sheer force of will, if IRyS had it in her grind harder she could get things moving sooner than later.

>>25533734
i genuinely pity her

>>25533426

Holo salary

https://youtu.be/KwYsDj3SASw

>>25531032
They did it

>>25533931
Fuck, didn't mean to post that image. Was for >>25533727 Cull is real for ID and EN, and it is huge

>>25533815
Honestly I just wanted to find out if anons legit believe the whole ipo scam or bots thing and are unwilling to change their views, or IF evidence is ever presented and WHAT exactly that evidence needed to be. So far I've been told poll (which can honestly be countered with even more bot cope), and an explanation of where the numbers go.
As to what you just said, I don't think they know either and are trying their best to explain, though obviously the ones with some reps done are going to be the most believable over just "shes that good duh".

>>25534013
>raid
I fucking hate this

>>25533908
what does this have to do with numbers?

>>25533815
It's simple

Her entire name is a joke about 1 million subs. People are speed running her to a million subs to see if something happens. To see if something big is planned.

Once she hits 1 million and nothing happens and it becomes clear she is just a regular vtuber, she will fall off.

>>25533908
CHAD FBK VS VIRGIN VOX

FBK
>Would rather let her entire bilibili channel be nuked than cut off her friend
>Gets spammed by chinks every day
>Doesn't care, streams anyways

Vox
>Chinks send death threat to friend
>Spends more time whining about how bad it is for him than worrying about his friend
>Breaks down and cries on stream
>https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1533115704597168130

>>25533723
I'm curious if subs cull actually affects the youtube algorithm.

>>25534049
nijiseethe

>>25533961
so the merch is not 100% paid by cover huh.
i guess that is why they have such a unique type of merch, like plushies.

>>25533961

Wow

my dream company. Yagoo is best CEO.

>>25534105
Fubuki has balls of titanium

>>25534044
No, I trust poll results. Bots generally aren't smart enough to spoof polls

>>25534169
It's not, but they get the money back anyway because of merch sales.

Looking at vyt defending vox now while majority of vyt was throwing shades at rushia. Double standards much? Women raising gachikois bad while male raising gachikois good.

>>25533484
>I'm not your boyfriend! yOu're a dumbfuck if you think that!
fast forward to now
>let me your boyfriend for one more day....

HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THAT SHIT

>>25534256
Nah, it's classic tribalism. /vyt/ is a stealth Nijisanji sub and the head mod there is a notorious Nijikek. It's ok when Niji does it according to them.

>>25533931
Kinda unfair comparing Suisei with Irys knowing their backgrounds, but I'd assume it was just Irys feeling intimidated on speaking up against the ones who normally do the decisions for her, a lot of us go through that stuff at one point or another

>>25534105
>I never really stopped to think about how this much success in this little time could affect a person's mental
Imagine how Gura felt in 2020...

>>25534411
I feel it's more than fair. IRyS used to be independent before going the path of the Vsinger. She's not independent minded though, she isn't willing to do whatever it takes to reach her ambitions, or maybe she doesn't have high ambitions to begin with.

>>25534243
Didn't we have a poll /here/ a day or two ago and anons accused niji fans of botting it? Or was that falseflaggers / shitposters? Couldn't tell because I just skim read everything trying to catch up on shit I missed.

>>25534044
The issue is that her entire thing is an massive anomaly, no other vtuber ever has managed to maintain debut numbers for multiple streams, and also those numbers seemingly exist only for her stream, have no impact on any other stream that are happening, and have seemingly no overlap with any other streamer that exist. Not even her defenders on this board can point to where the fuck her audience comes from.
I don't resort to claims of bottery lightly but that's literally the only thing that make sense.

>>25534169

Current : these are most of the time preordered so the costs and profits are outlined.

>>25534414
Gura probably felt worse because of the black mold in her house than because of imposter syndrome, lol.

>>25534494
Every poll ever hosted on 4chan has been accused of botting no matter how small. I've literally seen polls dominated 20 to 3, and the side that won accused the side that only had three voters of samefagging the vote because they refused to believe it wasn't a single person.

If you still think Salome is botting, have a look at her mentions on Twitter. https://twitter.com/search?q=%E3%82%B5%E3%83%AD%E3%83%A1&f=live
If you look for a while at the profiles, you can find a lot of normies without many posts about anime-related interests. This offers some proof that she is actually attracting a normie audience. The kind that doesn't really care to chat, and definitely won't be donating.

>>25534560
That's fair.
As I mentioned but not 100% sure on, I thought I saw one anon doing some reps and could attribute at least 40% of her viewers. But I wasn't really following all of their posts.
Either way eventually either someone will be able to perfectly explain it, a poll will happen that shows the results we're waiting for, or the bot claim is proven 100%. (Though this may be the least likely as what the other anon said, most of the other statistics correlate well with her views)

>>25534768
>This offers some proof that she is actually attracting a normie audience.
This makes even less sense because she's playing a fucking character and should ideally filter normies more than someone who watches anime

>>25534768
Like I said, every time someone tries to explain where her audience comes from it's a different explanation

>>25534876
The most logical explanation is that she attracts a normie audience. This would explain everything including her lack of funnel to other chuubas.

>>25534768
Even if she is botting, that doesn't stop her from attracting an audience. We've had people several times suggest that less than half her viewers are bots and the rest were people attracted by the hype.

>>25534560
See >>25534064
Her entire reason for being is to hit 1 million subs. Once she hits 1 million and nothing happens they will see she is just a regular vtuber and she will drop off.
People still think she is a joke/publicity stunt and all will become clear when she hits 1 million. That is why her sub growth is so fast.

>>25533313
I'm surprised HoloEN hasn't taken any offer for sponsorships yet. Ina and Sna is inderstanble that their RM job pays a lot. Gura and Ame chooses a sponsor, and Calli is already busy with her music. Do they make that much that they ignore sponsorships now?

>>25534753
Did you forget an image or something anon?

>>25534915
So just like Kobo but much bigger and in Japan?

>>25534962
>I'm surprised HoloEN hasn't taken any offer for sponsorships yet
Anon?

>>25534962
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k49Yn5n6NrE
>a week ago. they cant get chink sponsorships

>>25531292
That might be because Hecatomb Salmonella doesn't feel like a real Vtuber no matter if her numbers are real or not she seems kinda distant and gimmicky I would say, at least for now. Perhaps she opens up with longer streams and more viewer interaction, that might hinder her growth though.

>>25535005
but kobo does funnel to other chuubas

>>25534962
Did you forget about this

>>25535077
I was under the impression that her normie audience doesn't funnel but the vtuber audience does.

>>25535005
>>25535077
For that matter, Kobo is a black hole. We have graphs where it's clear kobo eats a thousand viewers from her fellow IDs whenever she streams, and they get them back when she stops

>>25535077
Do her viewers funnel to ID3 only?

>Alchemy Stars (Tencent(China))
>PUBG:Mobile (Tencent(China))
>Pronty (CE-Asia(China))
>Onmyoji (NetEase(China))
>Genshin Impact (miHoYo(China))
>Okatu's Adventure (XD Entertainment/TapTap(China))
>Blue Archive (Nexon(Korea))
>Summoners War (Com2uS(Korea))
>Cookie Run: Kingdom (Devsisters(Korea))
>Counter:Side (Studio BSide(Korea))
>Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage (Sega(Japan))
>Touhou LostWord (Team Shanghai Alice(Japan))
>Princess Connect (Crunchyroll(USA))
>Solasta (Tactical Adventures(France))

>China: 6
>Korea: 4
>Japan: 2
>USA: 1
>France: 1

>>25533961

◇ROBOCO 4th Anniversary Merch Complete Set Limited Edition (1,500 set) price 100 USD

>sold out in 1 hr .

.... that means most of the profits will go to vtuber ?

>>25535036
>>25535139
I meant recently or this month. There's less sponsorships. If they wanted, one member could take 2 sponsorships every month. A sponsored stream every 2 weeks.

>>25535139
1 year ago sponsorship? lmao
But a lot of games they are playing are sponsored, that's why people think there aren't many sponsorships.

>>25535189
her audience doesn't funnel AT ALL, or if it does it's an inconsequential 3-5k. This can be explained by the lateness of the hour when she ends her stream, but what cannot be explained is how none of the streams around her are impacted at all when she streams, which should happen and does happen to other similarly huge streams

>>25535340
I was referring to Kobo with this. Apologies if you were too.

>>25534768
Okay seriously, is there any kind of twitter data tracker or something that can be used to determine if Salome's twitter engagement is normal or not? I saw people last thread fighting over it and neither presented compelling arguments with solid evidence.

Is there anything like a record of Vtubers going trending on Twitter?

>>25535494
Kizuna Ai is the most similar thing

I've got a feeling that tonights WWE won't do as well as the others. I'm betting 60k peak. The collab stream was the peak and now hype will slowly go down until the next big collab.

>>25535494
https://getdaytrends.com/

I understand a lot of anons for why they will deny bots, but I don’t understand why they have such a strong belief that a debut is full of people who’ve never watched a vtuber in their life and have it be 80% of the demographic.

Like sure, new people DO watch debuts because they see it on a twitter feed or hear about it, but why the fuck would your ENTIRE viewer pool be fresh faces? And she’s somehow rotating those people with ease every stream? Like you’re telling me there’s tens of thousands of Japanese anime fans who decided “hey, lets watch a vtuber doing a trope” and proceed to not find remotely any interest in vtubers through their experience? It’s just retarded to me. If you’re gonna be doubtful about a theory like bots, you should also be doubtful about others that don’t make sense

>>25535596
60k sounds about right

>>25535240
From Zeta and Kaela graph yesterday, yes. It's kinda interesting really, it looks like ID3 have a whole different box from the rest of ID. I guess being IOP friendly really help

>>25535693
>she’s somehow rotating those people with ease every stream
newfag here, does this mean that it's never the same people

What the fuck is this shit

>>25535865
yes, a small minority of her audience remains the same but then about 80% are completely new each stream

>>25535865
Salome retains about 20% of her viewers from stream to stream, 80% of her viewers on each stream are brand new viewers who haven't watched any of her streams before. This is based on the chat metrics on vrabi.

>>25534064
>>25534064
>>25534064
>>25534064
>>25534064
See that, it's been obvious from the beginning why her growth is so fast.

>>25535898
If you've ever been to an idol live you'd know that some songs have cheers. Those are to teach people the cheers for Dokomi

>>25535240
No Anya got a minor buff too when the valorant stream ended

>>25535919
>>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Hyakumantenbara Salome. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of endoscopic medicine most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Salomes nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Hyakumantenbara Salome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Salomes existential catchphrase "Desu Wa" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Rikus genius unfolds itself on their computer monitors. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Hyakumantenbara Salome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Is it possible to collect all the names of the unique chatters in each of the Salome's stream and see if they're the same people watching all her streams? If only YT provided a viewer list, the methid above is unreliable simply because bots doesn't chat.

>>25535911
>>25535902
how does it compare to other jps like kuzuha or holos like marine?

>>25535077
>>25500745
>>25500792

>>25535655
Okay so I'm having a hard time using this but from what I could find with a quick check to compare, Salome's name in Japanese only ever hit 11th on Japanese twitter ranking, but she had ~30k tweets? Which is weird, tags with much fewer tweets are trending higher on that day.

Chloe by comparison hit 15th on Twitter on her Debut, with under 10k tweets.

>>25536015
>>25459417

>>25536068
Tags only trend when they go outside of their usual numbers.
Someone like Gura with a couple thousand mentions per day won't trend as easily.
It also depends on the region, for example, Kiara won't trend as easily in places where Kiara is a common name, that's why she trends in SEA a lot more.

>>25534330
anon hes obviously refering to the bf roleplay.

>>25536068
twitter trend algo is not relying on total number of tweets only. it's also on the speed of tweets, regions and other factors

>>25534330
You know it'd be easier if he doesn't play that act but he's a sociopath. Shu and Ike does great not doing it, Luca and Mysta fell off.

>>25536129
Does that mean the retention decreases but the ccv isn't affected?

>>25536262
it looks like a constant churn of new people every stream

Is my memory bad, or didn't Laplus say she hit 1# trending on Twitter back in her debut? What tag was she using

>>25536304
That might result in a very long leg of sub growth.

>>25536304
Imagine that, having new 60% - 70% inherently unique viewers all to yourself that don't overlap with any other chuba which which she's able to summon for every stream to maintain a 90+k average CCV

>>25536306
>https://getdaytrends.com/trend/%23laplus_great/
Found it. She was number 1 in Japan at the time, with 126k tweets. Which is apparently way more than Salome had.

So this blows the water out of the narrative that Salome was viral on twitter right

>>25534962
>>25534962
I don't know how to tell you this, anon...

Westies normally don't like being shilled shit and wont shill shit off their own free will if they can afford not to unless they actually genuinely like what they're told to shill.

nijisanji may 2022

>>25536492
Bare in mind La+ debut viewer count was also way higher than Salome's.
How does it look for both one week in?

>>25536409
Imagine Salome becomes so normie friendly in Japan, and with some oversea chuuba's viewrs help, she overtakes NHK in subs, which is around 3.5M

>>25536591
Natural to La+ since people gets filtered

Not natural to Salome but one or two stream is logical to keep the retention since people thought it was a Kanae joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bny32F5cuJg

AYAMY 3D! AYAMY 3D! AYAMY 3D!

>>25536666
they better rig her boobs right and not make it jello

>>25536527
>the """""king""""" can't even average 30k ccv
Pffft.

https://youtu.be/_rHYSHOXbgw
Why does this faggot only clip bad news

>>25536731
>Otakmori

>>25536591
Both entirely dropped off the top trending within a single day. It literally fell out of the trending 2 hours later for Salome and 3 hours later for Laplus. Laplus viewership fell off over time, Salome's didn't. Her going viral on Twitter isn't an explanation anymore though

>>25536492
>So this blows the water out of the narrative that Salome was viral on twitter right
She didn't get that much during the debut, and there wasn't an unifying tag like La+. Check out recent tags

>>25536731
People care more about bad news than good news
Same reason why Vtuber keep going menhera over one anti

>>25536731
Because you can watch "good" news on 1000 other channels.

>>25533155
>>25533504
>See a screenshot of some totally normal and well-adjusted /#/igger saying they need to remove Salome from the tallies
>Laugh at him for so obviously hinging his mental health on his tribe's numbers
>Check /#/ to get more of this
>THERE'S PEOPLE ACTUALLY DOING IT
I hope for your sakes you're shitposting.

>>25536829
Grabbed another tag from right off of twitter, the first one I saw when I looked her up, and tried searching it. Again, the best she hit was 6# on the day of her debut with under 10k tweets, and she hasn't trended again since.

>https://getdaytrends.com/trend/%23サロメ満点配信ですわ/

>>25534806
The biggest argument against bots is that if it was ever found out (and I believe that's definitely a possibility for something this damaging getting found by korekore or narukami) then anykara as a company just sinks and burns. If they're the ones doing it, self expalanatory, if Salami is the one doing it, then it still absolutely annihilates Anykara's IPO, and they absolutely destroy her in lawsuits. risk/reward just doesn't make sense. I would certainly like to see where exactly these people came from though.

>>25536953
Salome is actually all but proven to be botted by this point dumbass. We have investigated this from multiple angles and it's shaken out over and over again that she doesn't make sense. It was originally just obvious shitposting but that guy might have a point, since Salome is looking more fake every day.

>>25532336
valhalla is a shit vn. Playing something good like Umineko or House in Fata Morgana and i'll be there.

>>25536972
If only YT puts out a list of viewera in one stream

>>25537018
You would NEVER scream botting if it was a Holo who blew up like this and you fucking KNOW it.
Fuck off with your intellectual dishonesty.

>>25532336
Anon she's getting 5k viewers fuck off

>>25537018
Forgive me if this was already explained but how does her being botted correlate to things such as her subcount, likes, comments and vod views? Even her short has gotten over 1m views in <20 hours.
Another anon mentioned that those actually made sense with the amount of ccv she's been getting.

>>25537088
NIjiseethe

>>25533155
thanks tally anon o7

>>25537088
You don't think we'd question anyone whether it was from Holo or Anycolor that someone with an average CCV of 90+k was able to do that FOR EVERY STREAM? A chuba so strong that can rival xQc all of a sudden from nowhere, come on anon

>>25534105
That was the chink's fault and a conspiracy by bilibili, Voxx's kindreds were schizos but they were not the ones at fault. It was reimu for ruining a fucking ASMR stream that they probably have been hyping for. Imagine you watching Darkness Devil entrance got animated and bam! It cuts out to Meliodas Vs Escanor anime fight

>>25537247
No you wouldn't, you would suck their cock and call them your new god even if they were obviously botting. All that matters to you faggots is whether it's happening to your tribe or someone else's.

>>25532336
Holoseethe

>>25537138
Anon for example >>25536129 just this data alone is dubious.

>>25537293
What exactly did Reimu do? Was there one egregious example of her flirting with Vox or something that set people off?

>>25537296
Nijiniggers can't meme

>>25537294
Okay faggot, seems you've already made up your mind about things, no point in discussing further then

https://youtu.be/mUC_F1eTKUM
prediction??
maybe 15k++

>>25535911
how does this work with people who aren't logged in? Are they considered new viewers every time they open the site?

>>25537315
Reimu messaged vox on discord during his asmr and Vox decided to turn it into a skit where he gets a phone call during his date.
This made his chink fujos go apeshit
But don't forget how horrible it is for vox that he has to take time out of his day to talk about this issue and break down and cry while his friend and colleague is getting death threats because of something he did.

>>25537398
>500k and 600k celebration at the same stream
Good girl

>>25537308
Damn I'd really like to see the comparison to Holox that anons mentioned in reply to that data.

>>25537138
Comments are normal...for a stream with half her CCV. Likes are normal...for a stream with half her CCV. Of course, that's just based on my personal expectations from streams like Mikorone collab and other big streams, that needs more detailed data collection to support an argument either way, but it looks sus at a glace if you compare similar levels of streams

Subcount is outrageous even with her CCV, desu it's like an order of magnitude faster than Gura who had higher debut numbers and was in the EoP market, which subs more anyway, that shit is unexplainable even if you assume her CCV is real

>>25537424
Welcome to the YouTube ghetto

Is it possible Salami's numbers only look big because they're unculled, and all numbers across the board are culled by more than half?

Blog post
call it cope but holy shit just filtering out "Salome" makes this thread so much better. Feels like I can come home. I can scarcely imagine the quality improvement if I filter out nijinigger holocope etc

>>25530689
SILVER
>1) 92,089: Salome (Nijisanji) oZatsudan
>2) 45,176: Haachama (Hololive) 4th year anniversary totsumachi
>3) 48,485: Fubuki (Hololive) 4th Anniversary costume
>4) 56,607: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX


> PER COMPANY
2x: Nijisanji
2x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
1x: Salome, Haachama, Fubuki, Kuzuha

>>25537481
Ah my closest comparison was Mikos wwe and 3d for comments and likes.
Subs on the other hand. I'm unsure what the closest comparison is since I wasn't following Gura's growth other than her holding a few sub records.

>>25537398
You know looking at it it's not impossible for her to hit 700k today. She gained alot of subs during her valorant collab yesterday

>>25537647
Even back in the pre 2020 cull we don't have regular 90k streams

>>25536031
Marine's are clear holofags and her own massive fanbase, same with Kuzuha plus fujo and apex regular that came for chronoir and apex stuff. Meanwhile, salome has tens of thousands of completly newfags showed up at her stream everytime without a single hints of the normal reclining you'd see on most if vtuber. If her ccv were varied, ex. 90k on her first stream, 70k on her 2nd, 80k on her 3rd, 100k on her zatsu/sc opening, nobody would questioned it. But she has a stable 90-100k which is never seen before with no logical explanation behind it. She doesnt even do anything special.

>>25537398
I'm gonna mald the day Kobo hits 30k

>>25537398
I want to go bold and say 20k is possible.

>>25530689
BRONZE
>1) 72,251: Aki (Hololive) 4th year anniversary Live
>2) 30,828: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>3) 34,298: Miko (Hololive) Cooking strean
>4) 55,598: Gwelu (Nijisanji) APEX


> PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
1x: AkiRoze, Kuzuha, Miko, Gwelu

Silver and Bronze 2-2. Niji ahead in Gold.

>>25537715
But what if the numbers had gotten bigger in the meantime after the culls, and with the cull removed, like taking the training weights off, you can finally see the true numbers for the first time in years?

NijiEN going to get their first gold because Fauna is a useless whore with no fans and Bae got fucked over as per usual. What a fucking joke. Why couldn't it be Fauna who went away for the month instead of someone actually relevant? She wouldn't be able to ruin streams either.

>>25537398
18-20k seems possible

>>25537720
Is it completely possible that her recline is just slower than others and she'll slowly recline on a weekly basis instead of daily? I get it's unprecedented however so anything's possible at this point.

salome stream in a few hours. is she going to reach 100k again or theres going to be a decline?

>>25531302
Technically, yeah. If it's heavy use of special effects in a live action setting, it's toku. The phrasing is hella loose

>>25537818
My problem with Bae is it never feels like she's cheesed to meet me

>>25533155
sore holofaggot loser

>>25537920
90-100k is her usual, doubt 110k is possible

>>25537920
If her weekend buff is truly a thing then yeah 100k possible.

>>25537873
There are people who think she won't recline at all anon. Everything about this situation is so fucking unreal it makes /#/ into a conspiracy theory general.

On the plus side Iroha is taking her rightful place above this useless whore and will definitely pass her with her 3D

>>25537965
You don't watch streams.

Explain to me why Salami's been completely untouched by Youtube's CCV/sub culling bots for over a week now.
When those attack, even legit viewers are caught in the crossfire.
Lazulight, Council, Obsydia, Ethyria, HoloX, Luxiem, and Noctyx all had their subs slashed, so why isn't it happening to the one vtuber who is "so obviously botted?"

>>25538044
didn't happen to ID3, seems like it's been fixed after Noxtyx

>>25537873
It's been fricking 10days since her debut. Even with people being curious due to her virality, there should have been a good chunks got filtered by her RP. Faggots who said she appeal to normies are delusional. Ojou-sama archtype is a niche. Even with her massive popularity, half or at least a quarter of her viewers should've been filtered at this point. La+ is a good example. She is very similar as salome as maintaning RP, very entertaining, she got viral during her debuts, but people eventually got filtered and choose something else. And now suddenly normies love ojou-sama archtype outta nowhere? This the question nijinigger deflect

>>25538044
The bots look more real than actual real people. This was meant to be a shitpost, but after typing it I immediately had a dreadful feeling like it might be true and YouTube's algorithm is just THAT stupid.

>>25537818
>>25538022

>>25538095
Salome isn't even viral. She never even hit 1# trending in Japan, her sustained virality lasted only for a day, she had less tweets about her than Laplus did.

>>25538209
Yeah and what's Laplus ccv versus Ojou?

>>25538245
Real. Arguably culled.

>>25538044
Same thing why chinkbots are spamming holo for a year, still on FBK's chat, and been years plague the popular tubers comment sections. The pajeet's programming are shit

You know, it never made sense to me that introduction debut videos are live. Wouldn't it make more sense to have them be prerecorded with higher production/editing? They never interact with their audience on debut anyway.

>>25538245
Heavily culled on her debut month. It was during the usual pajeet algo change on december last year

>>25538313
They do though. Actually watch them, there's chat interaction

https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE

Get in numberfags, it's that time of the week

>>25538095
Moonspeaker here.
There's an obscene amount of Japanese people saying that they or people they know have been watching and enjoying Salome's streams despite not being into vtubers before.

>>25538376
Thank god, some real numbers

>>25538313
It's a tradition from the poorfag era when using l2d was a cheap alternative for smaller aspiring vtubers. It has soul and been a deep-rooted tradition ever since.

>>25538378
WHERE? It's not on Twitter. How are they discovering her?

I thought the whole thing with bots was that they would fizzle out every now and then, and would need to be reconnected, hence Luxiem graphs. Salamis have never really been as wildly fluctuating as Luxiems from what I could tell. Yes there's that one stream that larpers cherry pick but every other stream the graph looked normal.

>>25538044
>Sub culling
It appears there's a few different factors behind the AI responsible for that.
1. If you're not -linked- to a bunch of different channels that have all been made around at the same time on the "Channels" tab on youtube, youtube is less likely to think you're a bunch of bots trying to pull a scam and thus come down like a ton of bricks on you (Solo Debut vs 5)
2. It looks like subscribing from ANYWHERE except the subscribe button directly on that specific channel's page makes YT be super extra DUPER angry and want to giga-cull the SHIT out of your subs (this includes subbing through the 'Channels' tab or otherwise).
Thus, a solo debut with no extra channels linked on the channels page and everyone subbing ONLY on that channel directly is going to experience very little cull.

>>25538378
Can't wait until they realize the rest of Niji is nothing like Salome and they all move on to Miko and Subaru

>>25538378
And how many of them? 90k? 80k? 70k? And like anon said, she has newfags, A TOTALLY NEWFAGS, on every fucking stream who only there to watch that one stream!

>>25538378
Ofc there are anon! Nobody saying they didnt exist, it's just the numbers of those people are unrealistic

>>25538461
A /#/ anon bought the lowest tier bots for 11$ which exemplified the typical bot behaviour we've seen with Noctyx, we have not seen a what a large budget high tier bot would look like

>>25531280
Revengeance was a meme game, and she's not as entertaining as Peko to carry the other ones.
Also 3 has a lot of patriotism built into it, not well liked by the NijiEN audience.

>>25532050
I wish pomus brests were that large

>>25533306
> I'll believe she isn't botted
proof should come from the accused.
Youtube API, twitter trends, and everything else paints her numbers are legit.
No proof has been offered for the fakeness of her numbers other than EOP cope about not understanding Japanese trends.

>bots
Man why do I have to share a thread with you schizos

>>25532134
nothing will, because it's cope

>>25538463
Sounds like bullshit, but I'll believe it tentatively.

>>25538461
The problem with Salome's graph is honestly the opposite of what Luxiium's graph looks like, that is it looks fucking pristine on a level no other stream ever shows.

Gura has fucked up sawtooth graphs, there's all kinds of jumps and fluctuations in other streamers graphs.

Salome's looks like it was draw, it's unnatural in a way clearly opposite typical bot behavior works, but still not 'normal'.

>>25538681
Everything else paints her numbers as bullshit.

>>25532336
don't really find anything interesting about her except the mating press memes.
her "bruh" and other zoomer lingo filters me.

Who is Senba?
https://youtu.be/ib9J077Uhbw
1k average seems like a lot for an indie with sub 100k subs.
She's got collabs with Haneru and Hajime coming up.

>>25538459
I search "v サロメ" on twitter and there's always a bunch of NEW tweets saying stuff like that.
Here's one from literally minutes ago
https://twitter.com/mitara_lucky/status/1533338414652612613
>大学のVとか知らないしYoutubeさえほとんどみない友達から「サロメさんって己桵が好きなにじさんじの人?」って聞かれたときびびったもんな…
>A uni friend who doesn't know vtubers and barely even watches youtube asked "So is this 'Salome' the Nijisanji person you like?" I wasn't ready for that one.

>>25532447
がんばれアノンくん。
報告ありがとう!

>>25538751
>it looks fucking pristine on a level no other stream ever shows.
Really? Maybe I'm misremembering and I'm phoneposting atm so can't double check as easily, but I thought her graphs looked similar to what Miko was getting for her wwe stream.

>>25538681
Maintaining 90k viewers playing the same game for 5 streams in a row is suspect. It doesn't matter how much hype she has, there is always a dropoff from debut numbers and especially when the same game is played

>>25534169
no, but the talents get a better cut because of it.
Lamy's tax itself is like 10k$ or something so that paints a picture of her actual income.

>>25538209
>>25536068
>>25535655
Stop lying SEAnig

Migo deploying Kanatso and the Marine buff for her WWE stream, watch out nijiniggers

>>25538903
what i do? i just gave that anon a site that tracks daily twitter trends

is it possible for Salome's new audience to move to Hololive instead of other Nijisanji members?

>>25533723
you're reading off the nijicope list anon, you're too far gone.

>>25538928
kanataso is debuff
80k tops

>>25538942
Apparently, information that disagrees with his narrative is always lies, so the website itself must be misinformation.

>>25538891
Not to mention is her ojou-RP is very niche. No matter how entertaining and good it is, there's at least people got filtered by it at this point.
But noooooo.... according to nijinigger's she is so entertaining that 90k people keep coming back more and more cause how exceptionally entertaining she is.

>>25534046
When is Hololive going to start utilizing this feature? It will supercharge the box

>>25533815
It's just fun trolling EOPs, because obviously you'll never take the time to do your reps and check JP twitter for yourselves to see how popular she is.

>>25538942
>Salome isn't even viral
>she had less tweets about her than Laplus did.

>>25538751
The proof I put forward is a bit rough, but here goes
->Noctyx got culled super fucking hard, this was post MCN for Nijisanji
->HoloID3 got culled far less, there were only 3 channels
As for the -subbing elsewhere means YT hates your sub-, I remember some indie/small corpo? pointing out that they recently had some new people sub to her from outside YT, but YT clawed back a LARGE amount of those subs and showed her analytics page, showing -where- the subs were coming from (Not her channel vs on her channel) and a large amount of purged subs was way more than those who had subbed ON her channel recently. Probably the AI associating the action of subbing from anywhere but the channel as bot-networks mass-subbing, and so unfortunately tied that action = bots and purges them more readily. Combined with the first point and well....

>>25534044
anons are currently mindbroken by a black swan even pls understand.
Coco had unbelievable numbers for her time, but no one really cared because this thread and this board didn't exist, EOPs didn't exist, and people actually watched streams back then.

>>25534768
mate, they're sniffing the highest grade of copium, any information that runs counter to "muh bots" and "muh ipo scam" are just going to go over their heads.

>>25539033
That's a basic fucking fact. Actually look at the fucking website and the tags. She never hit number 1 trending, Laplus did. She had less than 40k tweets cumulatively, and fell off in a day. Laplus had over 120k tweets cumulatively. I fucking posted proof in this thread.

>>25539001
No one is denying her popularity, what people are curious are how does she maintain 90+k average CCV every stream with a turn out of 60% unique viewers that are different for each stream, you don't find that anomaly weird anon?

>>25535693
The ENTIRE audience is not fresh to VTubers, this has been explained countless times, do your fucking archive reps before posting retarded shit.

>>25539111
You mean information with no proof? We have literally compiled mountains of evidence. You only have your fucking opinions. What more do you fucking need to understand that you're wrong?

>>25538958
>i don't give a fuck about v-pig but Salome-sama is different, i only care about Salome-sama... etc
There, I quote you what japs are saying

>>25539151
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Hyakumantenbara Salome. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of endoscopic medicine most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Salomes nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Hyakumantenbara Salome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Salomes existential catchphrase "Desu Wa" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Rikus genius unfolds itself on their computer monitors. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Hyakumantenbara Salome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>>25539151
Source: Your ass. No one gives a shit about a statement make with no evidence to back it up. Throw that shitty screencap away, it's worthless.

>>25538022
She actually got a little boost from yesterday's collab

>>25539151
>source : my rrats on the previous thread

>>25539165
A big, juicy cull.
I have little faith in Youtube's systems, but not so little that I don't think they wouldn't catch on to a supposed botting operation of THIS scale.

>>25539116
How is this site used? I'm trying to search up what >>25538823 mentioned but it's not letting me.

If Nijisanji manages to tap into a whole new audience, they have to do everything they can to hook them in with much more content.

https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE
https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE
https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE

Starting now, get in

>>25539319
TRIBALFAGS GTFO
NUMBERCHADS, COME HERE AND REJOICE

>>25539311
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Any new audience she does get will get funneled to Holo at some point

>>25535256
are you counting only the publisher or the studio as well?

>>25539136
>turn out of 60% unique viewers that are different for each stream
you are fucking stupid, it only counts the one who have chatted in her stream which is 10% of that stream's viewer, if the other 10% would only comment one time each day then it needs 9 days to circle all of them, yes it's still the same 90k people

>>25539306
You type up the term you're looking for into the 'search topic' bar. You can't search for topics that haven't trended, which is why its an invalid term, because 'vサロメ' isn't and has never trended.

https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE
https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE
https://youtu.be/wYCB3_dtNTE
IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN

>>25539399
Sounds like cope. Actually use your brain dumbass, stop making excuses for obvious botting

>>25539436
Why does this channel still rate Hololive songs? Nijisanji songs have been getting better numbers at this point.

>>25539399
And non of those 90k+ people EVER got filtered by her ojou-RP. You know, a good chunk probably werent into that. The same 90k+ people came by everynight to watch her streams at 12pm JST, go to sleep and came back the next day no matter what day? What's next? You gonna say they are all NEET? 90k+ NEET nips?

>>25539403
Ah so because it's never trended is why it wouldn't enter for me. Ok.
Follow-up though, does various ways to search a name (ie: Salome, her name in jp, the full name, etc) all appear under the same trend? I have no fucking idea how twitter works, but wanna get every angle down.

>>25539482
What's a nijisanji?

>>25539446
you are the one who cope here because the niggest ppular vtuber in town isn't in your tribe lmao

>>25539494
Some gay pride thing, don't know why they keep bringing it up here

>>25539490
Where's all of those 180k Gura stream go? Where's all of those 500k Coco stream go?

Huh the Suisei astel izuru song has a surprising amount of legs, I don't think I've seen it drop out of the top 50 ranking since it was released

>>25539482
The channel's name is "ホロ歌は癒しの万能薬hololive songs", you tell us anon, why is that the case?

>>25539494
>>25539529
Picrel

Welp, the usual shitposting hours have started. Shitposters here and thread is starting to become unusable. Was nice having some different viewpoints on the current Ojou situation, maybe tomorrow at an earlier time the conversations can be resumed.

>>25536129
This graph doesn't really give much information, if those who were there at her debut also chatted on her most recent stream (503 people) that means that they remained fans from start to now.
That's about 8% of her initial audience, normal chuuba recline numbers.
Also her virality started AFTER debut, so her second stream obviously had bigger numbers, and more of them stayed for other streams, including the latest one (1458 out of 8887) which is about 16% for her SECOND stream. More of the audience stayed.
Here's the percentage of people on her latest stream that started watching one of her first 5 streams, split up.
What this calculates is the number of uniques that were watching each of her first 5 streams, and the percentage of them that ALSO chatted on her most recent stream -

> 503/5911 = 8.51% (Debut --> RE7 Part 7)
> 1458/8887 = 16.41% (RE7 Part 1 --> RE7 Part 7)
> 1699/7543 = 22.52% (RE7 Part 2 --> RE7 Part 7)
> 1816/7748 = 23.44% (Euro Truck --> RE7 Part 7)
> 2161/8934 = 24.19% (RE7 Part 3 --> RE7 Part 7)

I think this is a far better numeric measure of her audience retention than pure viewer churn.
And what it indicates is that her viewer retention is RISING the more she streams. More unique people are watching her the more she streams, and more people are sticking with her the later they join.

>>25539562
it's a good song

>>25539491
No, there were multiple terms used for Salome, but one of them was larger than the others and it is the predominate term still in use if you check on twitter right now.

Use this one サロメ満点配信ですわ

>>25539554
Nigga that's my point! They dont showed up everytime and only on special occassions. Salome literally just doing a regular stream

>>25539582
It's afternoon in Schizo SEAfaggot land, shit flinging retards are coming out

>>25539600
This is pure, high grade nijicope, holy shit your math is bad

>>25539615
Thanks anon. Imma dip for now due to the rise in shitposting hours and thread starting to become unusable so hopefully more findings can be resumed another time.

that da da da tenshi cover of aqua is very strong

>>25539529
>>25539570
Sasuga nijifaggots

>>25539714
If aqua didn't have so many original songs that'll probably be her iconic like Towa's error or Noel's shaka beach

>>25539554
What the fuck don't you understand faggot?! That was considered normal because they left after, salami has about 90+k average CCV every stream, are you brain dead? How smooth is your fucking brain? Were you dropped when you were a toddler?

>>25536953
it's the same guy that tried to rob King of his gold to build his "niji only won one gold in April" narrative, just ignore him.

>>25539801
Speaking of Towa's error it's about to hit ten million soon

lui really is the new watame.
i only learn she released a new cover from these weekly videos and they always have shit views
how do we save them

>>25539840
But he did though, fuck off

>>25539436
>>25539319
This isn't legal

>>25539878
More collabs

>>25537455
she joined his discord channel actually, he was audible on her stream so obviously he could hear her.
imagine you're doing an asmr stream and this chick basically drops in to your voice channel and starts going "hey, hey vox help me out here".

>>25539878
Lui doesn't need saving, she's in a good place right now. Bigger than 3views, but not a 10k+ streamer, the most kino range for viewer interaction.

>>25538891
so, headcanon then? no numbers to back up the "it's suspect" claim?

Huh was there a bunch of new releases this week or something? Ayame's goodbyes Sengen out of the top ten is rare

>>25540015
Can you name even one streamer to have ever replicated this feat in all of history? Not just Vtubers, ANY streamer.

>Goodbye Sengen and Kamippoi out of top 10
Holy shit

Since Salome has started promoting Nijisanji stuff, has there been an increase in viewership overall?

>>25539914
NIjiseethe

>>25540048
We've got a bunch from last week that still have legs (Suisei, Ina) as well as a few new ones yea.

>The 10th song at 244k views
Holy fuck

>>25540073
lol no, why the fuck do you think so many people have been scrutinizing the numbers. She funnels little to none of her viewers even while shilling

Mori sings better than she raps

>>25540073
she needs to do collabs and appear in other channels for this to be a thing

Mumei's Dilemma. Suisei's Ghost city tokyo, Irys's Internet Overload still left

>>25533554
Can you get a sample of 50 user ids that don't crossover with any of these streams and check who they are subscribed to? That might lead to a channel or genre that they watch. It could also be cross-referenced with that other site that lists chat messages by another user

Towa can't sing

AZKI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>25540165
Yeah, and when it does her numbers will fall like a goddamn rock. Nothing filters normies like corporate collabs.

>>25540199
i know this is bait and i love her singing most of the time but i agree she doesnt sound great in this song

>>25540179
IRyS might be next week I guess

>>25540179
IRyS's internet overload is going to be next week, there weren't enough days before the cut off (and it didn't get some stupid amount of views like 1mil+ in a day to 'bypass' that rule like Calligura King did)

Why can the ENs sing Japanese songs decently but JPs can't sing English songs for shit?

Ina really knows how to pick her cover songs

Is Mumei becoming more popular?

>Open numbers thread
>CTRL+F "Ame"
>2 results. Nothing relevant
Good.
>Close thread

GO MUMEI GO

Wait phony got 450k+ views this week? What the fuck?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYCB3_dtNTE
10. Reine, Suisei, and Mori - Beat Eater (244,376)
9. Kanata - Telecaster B-Boy (247,620)
8. Mori and Gura - KING (270,091)
7. Chloe - Fukurou-san (288,875)
6. Startend - Asu no Yozora Shoukaihan (304,397)
5. Towa and Azki - Diamond Crevasse (376,715)
4. Ina - Nainai (383,432)
3. Mumei - Dilemma (448,005)
2. Suisei - phony (460,371)
1. Suisei - Ghost City Tokyo (919,130)

>>25538873
there's definitely some variation, but mostly it looks like a normal 1hr holo stream graph.

>>25540274
think for a second

>>25540231
>>25540244
Yep, I realised when I saw Ina's in 4th place with Mumei, Phony and Ghost City missing

>>25540285
FOTM, remember KuzuKING one year ago?