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>>25480576These shouldn't be posted. They're clearly unreliable.
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>96,226: Salome (Nijisanji)>48,485: Fubuki (Hololive)>34,298: Miko (Hololive)>26,298: Lui (Hololive)>22,157: Iroha (Hololive)>20,919: Ayame (Hololive)>18,125: Shion (Hololive)>15,608: Laplus (Hololive)>14,690: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>14,543: Noel (Hololive)>13,893: Watame (Hololive)>13,089: Koyori (Hololive)>12,120: Subaru (Hololive)>11,241: Towa (Hololive)>11,120: Kobo (Hololive)>10,525: Kanata (Hololive)>10,287: Risu (Hololive)>10,115: Kronii (Hololive)
stay in your fucking thread
>>25480591Yeah, third party sites apparently have totally unreliable data>>25480442Anon you slapping yourself there?Most data don't go for 100% for it be conclusive of anything.That vaccine ain't 100%, that shit must not be conclusive to whatever it can prevent.
>>25480601>JUNE 2022 GOLD1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 72) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V>PER COMPANY2x: Nijisanji1x: Hololive>PER STREAMER2x: Salome1x: Haachama2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY104x: Hololive41x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua12x: Miko11x: Kuzuha7x: Subaru6x: Hal, Salome5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
Can you guys stop?
Gura on her way to a 400k vod in processing that had 3 povs for at least 3 hours. Pretty fucking good. I really hope we get to see more EN collabs happen
>>25480641Did anybody watch this guy's videos? Tboughts?
>>25480668Too optimistic. His Salome video is far to credulous of her success, he even admits that there is no plausible justification or even explanation for her rapid growth, yet he just assumes there must be a good one no one has figured out yet.
>>25480668I watched most of his Aloe's video. Mostly retarded takes and uninformed.
>>25480668Literally a redditor
>>25480668If he puts enough time into a topic, his videos can serve as a somewhat unbiased history source.But he also has retarded takes when he puts out a video too close to the subject - like with Rushia and Salami.
>>25480668Literally started as a shitpost channel that decided to suddenly make "serious" videos
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1532995571140571139DoKomi started. Anybody here in the con?
unfortunately all the new chat stats for Luxiem vods are not available yet on vrabi. I'll be interested in those stats quite a bit. So here's Chloe's. Interesting that LaPlus has the least crossover of her gen.
>>25480601>JUNE 2022 GOLD1) Aki (Hololive) - 72,2512) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,6963) Fubuki (Hololive) - 48,485>PER COMPANY3x: Hololive>PER STREAMER1x: Aki, Haachama, FubukiThere, I fixed the list for you to remove any botted streams. Get your shit together Tally Anon.2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY104x: Hololive39x: Nijisanji7x: Neo Porte2x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER17x: Pekora16x: Aqua12x: Miko11x: Kuzuha7x: Subaru, Hal5x: Kanata, Marine4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu2x: Aki, Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa1x: AI, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Fubuki, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta.
>>25480887cringe
kek, you guys must really enjoy LARPing as industry analysts so much so that you get butthurt when it's pointed out that you're trying to """analyze""" viewer demographics from unverified data and that whatever you spout should be taken with a boulder-sized grain of salt
>>25480887Based
>>25480668>Not one single video focusing on 774, VShojo or KR Isegye Idoldropped
Considering this CR Cup got changed from Apex to Fall Guys at the last minute, did it affect the participants’ numbers at all?
>>25480887Cope
>>25476349>>25477709>>25479188>>25479238can someone label these graphs properly so that we can see what they are trying to say?
>>25480935Like how any sane person should perceive an average 90+k CCV, with a grain of salt
>>25480873link to data? I can't seem to find this on vrabi.
>still no male collabsRiku you goddamn coward
>>25480873what site is this from?
>>25481039Male collab after the recline and the Honeymoon phase is over
>>25481039Males collab all the time?
>>25480873Curiously enough, do they also provide word counts? Just curious as to how that would look like to Fubuki's 4th anniversary stream where her chat got heavily botted.
stop replying to the sealioning retard
>>25480935The idea that all data is useless compared to your opinion because it's 'unverified' is ridiculous. These are trusted sources. Actually prove they're wrong or stop bitching about other people insisting you use them.
>>25481077Yes. Only 2 more days!
>>25481111maybe properly label your charts and graphs so that other people can cross check.
>subar 25k>kuzu streams>duck drops to 14k>kuzuha is now 25klol?
so... will it?
>>25481102No, they only provide the total chats and chats/min stats.Here's Fuma. Something that stood out to me was that more people who chatted in his stream were subbed to HoloID than to HoloEN (though it was rather close). Also other than Aruran, Astel and Roberu there doesn't seem to be much crossover with the other Stars.
>>25481204she went into sc reading you dumbass
>>25481144>Nijifaggots cross checking data? No no we don't do that, we provide speculations and anecdotes of her infamy to justify her CCV
I won't accept that Salome's viewers are suspicious without three peer reviewed papers by prestigious universities
>>25481204I'm assuming it wasn't her switching to SC reading?
>>25481205I love her
>>25481077when will she recline bros...
>>25481224Thanks for the insights anon.If I'm not mistaken Hololyzer does word counts? But does not provide a dictionary of it.I believe Holostars anyhow have fans which overlap with HoloID and HoloEN
>>25481236Don't worry anon, I agree. It's totally possible all of HoloEN3 will have consistent CCV of 50k+ even weeks after debut
>>25481337She's already reclining. Normies and tourists, who are her actual audience, don't stick around for more than one stream even if they're short ones like hers, and there's a limited number of those she can rotate through.
>Nyanners dropped two thirds of her subs People commented and they’re right that it was not just the boyfriend announcement but the lack of streaming. I say it was both and I wonder whether there is a bottom or if she’ll crash all the way to zero
What's the reason for this, numberfriends?
Fubuki's wordcloud to see the silly business-speak nonsense the bots were loading chat with.
>>25481406Probably raids or something? I don't know much about Twitch site functions, maybe the platform is just fucked
>>25481408I'm pretty sure they just copypasted a covid advisory for business phamplet and flooded it into chat
>>25481408>>25481459For what purpose? It's not even close to as obnoxious as I expect from those spammers
>>25481453That's a number of followers, the temporary peaks are bot followers spamming doxx that got banned a while after a while, but I was more interested in Nyanners hitting a wall and reclining hard compared to the two other big VShojos who are leaving her in the dust
>>25481478to make it harder to spamfilter, and because chinks
>>25481406Nyanners streams much less than the other two (especially the mouse)
>>25481408Oh that's actually neat, yeah I was watching the stream and those words are what the bots were gargling out.I wonder then if it's possible to have an "organic" dictionary then and what they would look like.
>>25481488It's actually less annoying than emote spam though, which is normal chat behavior
>>25481520which part of chinks do you not understand?
>Apex CR cup changed into fall gays and golfkek, no King gold this month
>>25481408Reminds me of that Weird Al song that's just a whole bunch of business lingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD4
>>25481520For me it's not about how annoying it is but to know what usually entails an organic chat is to have something to compare with.
>>25481588What happened?
>>25481639EA
>>25481639Apex is shitting the bed hardagainand since they can't reschedule it they're switching games instead
Now that vrabi is showing chat logs, it’s safe for me to say to you guys “I told you so” about hololyzer being bugged/inaccurate as all fuck. This is what they registered for Gura’s stream.>51768 messagesMeanwhile on vrabi:>71234 messagesAnd if this weren’t enough, you can even verify the messages per min alongside holostats. It’s like 99.999% identical. >Gura messages a min on vrabi at 13:10 213>Gura messages a min on holostats at 13:10 (00:10): 213So it’s clear that multiple sites are getting the same or near exact rates of chat messages, and at this point I trust vrabi here than hololyzer for this.
Matuli...
>>25480946no
Is there any way to trigger /#/ harder than just outright ignoring sources and calling every argument cope?
>>25481794$11
>>25481232alright, keep coping then
>>25481794yeslamy > council
>>25481794I'm an ESL so I don't know what cope means. You can't trigger me
Nijiniggers love to tout that salami somehow stumbled into a new, untapped demographic, yet they can't for the life of them name that demographic.To put it into perspective, we know what Vox and Kobo demographics are, bugwomen and indogs teenager respectively, yet this 90+k people somehow couldn't be put into a box?
>>25481877They are JP normies
>>25481026In case you didn't find it, it's here. Just scroll down past the usual ccv graph.https://vrabi.net/video/eUV0dLzivt4
>>25481681what happened, this seems to be new, I don't think it was this bad during old CR cups or VSaikyous.
>>25481681Is it those butthurt Titanfall hackers again?
>>25481111>trusted sourcesThe fact that different sites can get different numbers off the same stream is reason enough not to trust any single source unless it can be replicated independently. Then again the wannabes in this thread just want to lazily take every number out there as long as they agree with their headcanon instead of doing the actual work of ensuring rigor in their data analysis. Wouldn't be so hilarious if they just admitted they were shitposting and didn't actually know that much more than your average 4chan poster, but as it is... kek
>>25481908Anon, most niji jp fanbase are normiesSalome viewers are somehow ultra-normies considering they never watch her colleagues and the competitors, yet they're always there whenever she streams
>>25481967>>25481973It's always bad at the beginning of a new season and it gets worse every time. Respawn always manages to break shit.
>>25481706>same or near exact rates of chat messagesbecause they have bandwidth budget per viewer, it will drop everything that goes above the limit(except for moderators)Pretty basic operation cost management(unlike consumers who buy bandwidth in bulk, server hosts pay per transfer)
>>25481908>90+k JP Normies who haven't watched or known what a VTuber was, a talent which was not heavily marketed or advertised out of the VTuber sphere garnerning their attention for just 1 hour
>>25481997they're called salomate
>>25481877No one can explain who this magical demographic is that has minimal crossover with Nijisanji or Hololive, doesn't watch any other Vtubers, is available in a specific midnight timeslot, doesn't watch dramatubers or Apex either, and also is large enough to appear in numbers greater than the entire rest of her company at the same time, and churned through in 25k batches every stream. It's an absurd notion this group of people exists and an even more absurd notion Salome somehow magically summoned them into her stream unlike all other Vtubers before her.
>>25482042I wanna salo-mate that drill slut hard
>>25480887Stop, anon. You can't just post Friend like that.
>>25481983This is fucking 4chan, in the numbers thread on the /vt/ board. We use the tools we have, we're not some fucking hacker elite. People here are autistic, but not that fucking autistic, dumbass. Take the tools given to you or leave.
>>25481983>My unfounded and purely speculative opinion based from anecdotes and conjectures are more reliable
Shiina's current Apex stream stats. Very, very interesting that more than 20% of the people chatting in her stream are subbed to someone in VSPO.
>>25482073ofc u do
>>25481388I actually wonder how things would be for her if she started earlier and ran longer than an hour. Big difference between getting people to commit to an hour of streaming versus four or five.
>>25481224>Fuma. Something that stood out to me was that more people who chatted in his stream were subbed to HoloIDSo glad to hear that I'm not the only femindog subscribed to him
>>25481734>>25481754How did Towa manage to incline from her yab while Matuli just keeps falling down and down? She's low level Niji tier at this point.
>>25482109So that's the APEX viewer pool then since that's mostly the correlation we can have from that
wait Germans actually cheer?
>>25481734>>25481754I wonder what Matsuri would have to do to recover. Never expected that level of disparity between her and fucking Towa.
>>25482230Towa's networking is ridiculous Also the fact that she's one of the best singer in holo helped
Kiara is singing at dokomi btw
>>25482285Haven't seen a Bayern match in Germany most especially in München?
>>25481408Looks like words from blockchain bots
>>25481205So what was her announcement?
>>25482303Stop these external apex collabs completely. No-one in the box likes the combo when it comes to Matsuri, but they're okay with Towa doing it due to assorted factors and fanbases.I don't think it'd ever be possible for Matsuri to salvage her numbers so long as she has apex (nongacha) anywhere in her schedule.
>>25482338>Kiara>singingDisgusting
>>25482101No worries mate, just wanted to make sure you guys understood this thread is ultimately just playing pretend with rather low standards of what counts as proof. Delusion is rather unhealthy, as you can see here >>25482102Cheers.
>>25482382Birthday stream and orisong
>>25482382Birthday and Orisong.Of course she kinda goofed in that she vastly underestimated how long the entire cake thing would take her to do.
>>25482361Burgers don't watch football, anon
>>25482127She would have been a 5k streamer at best. Long streams filter viewers. She didn't have the kind of debut hype HoloX had, with way higher initial numbers, but they filtered their viewers immediately with variety streams and collabs and long streams and such. Ironically, I think the only reason Salome is still floating such high CCV is because she's gone hard into RE7, because very non-filtering. Horror game, popular franchise, not flavor of the month, it's generic 'lets play' content. The conventional wisdom is that you filter a lot of people with that type of content, but she's filtering people like a gunshot wound to the chest hemorrhages blood. Once she started playing it, there was no reason not to keep going, since none of the people that are coming or going give a shit about the game or her, they're just there for the hype.
>>25481111>You need a verified source to determine the data if it's true or false>Data literally comes from YT API>Third party data!All tiring, it reminds me of the clip where a girl snaps back at a vegae after the Vegan says 'Are you a biologist?' with a 'Im not a vet but a I know what a dog is.' Anyone could become a data analyst here with the right tools.
>>25482431Sure we do. We just don't watch soccer.
>>25482412Proof is proof, and you have none. Low standards are still standards. Good fucking riddance, see you tomorrow, SEAfag.
>>25482303First unmod l*yger. He's just a viewer with more powers. I remember Towa funneling her viewers to Matsuri's stream during VSaikyou and they got banned.He's also chatting like a normal viewer, posting かわいい every 10 seconds and shit and it's an eyesore to look at chat because his name is highlighted and people think it's a Holomem but it's actually fucking l*ger
>>25482497Yeah, you burgers watch pussyfied rugby instead
>>25481877No one knows for sure salami audienceYou can imagine she got the suisei 3D concert number with just simple streamIf that ccv not bother you i don't know what else will
Wow, I thought Dokomi was a large con? This room/crowd seems so tiny.
https://www.twitch.tv/dokomitv
>>25482570a lot of people is still lining up. hopefully there's a screen outside, niggas missing out
>>25482570It is, but you know, chinkflu
>>25482570COVID restrictions
>>25482453I think she'd have a hard time keeping up that personality for several hours a day and that performance hit would hurt her novelty. Curious to see the impact of format changes or games that are less friendly to her style.
>>25481877EOP cope is always hilarious to read
>>25482428She probably wanted to promoted on the Minecraft Collab, but tired herself out. Bless Fauna for doing it for her.
>>25482648Yea. 2019, it was a 55k visitor con (over 2 days) so pretty sizeable.
>>25482230Because towa only has one yab and constantly trying to improve herself in and out of holo after that. She is active in collabs among holo, do her idolreps, join concerts and manage to incorporate her apexfags into holo fanbase.Meanwhile during the whole 2021, matuli just kept on drifting further from the box by collabing with literall whos, having menhera outbreaks, and rarely collabing inside the box, especially with the new kids.
>>25482230>while Matuli just keeps falling down and downMatsuri strength, like Rushia, is her interaction with her chat and audience. She’s the SWEETEST girl and you can listen to her talking for hours and hours if she’s in a good mood.She’s NOTHING like the EOP clipnigger memes. That’s the whole point of catching a Matsuri stream live, to have her interact with the chat, either in a zatsu, singing stream or “walking zatsu” with a low stakes game. When Matsuri started postponing her solo streams while, at the same time, started playing more and more APEX on her channel and on literary who out of the box channels OF FUCKING COURSE her audience would be peeved and after some time, defect.
>>25481734>>25481754Exciting team members versus boring ones. Towa is higher than Matsuri naturally as well. Towa should keep collabing with hers for numbers
>>25482533>I remember Towa funneling her viewers to Matsuri's stream during VSaikyou and they got bannedTo be fair the Startend viewerbase was absolute cancer, a bunch of Apex tourists only interested in the spectacle of Aqua's first tournament.
>>25482477It's been proven that these tools can be unreliable just minutes ago here >>25481706, generously speaking half of you don't even know how the sites work and just take them at face value despite wanting to be data analysts. What I'm saying is, don't quit your day job bro.
>>25482806As opposed to you, who makes claims and backs them up with 'just trust me bro'? Yeah, you're an idiot.
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1533004795321139200?Here is a shot of the room Kiara is "in"
>>25482752May was a lot of Apex too with only two singing streams I think. Most of her other games were during the day as well when she gets better viewership during the night
>>25482806Good thing vrabi is just one of many stats tracker site then
>>25482766FPS crowd on average is pretty garbage. Good for viewer numbers considering the popularity of APEX in Japan, but wouldn't expect much viewer loyalty out of them or interest in things that aren't FPS.
So what this graph implies, is that majority of her current audience are either old or new nijifans, yes?Adding the totals on the right, we have -> 64.4% : Niji fans> 30.0% : Holo fans> 5.6 : Not subbed to any nijis or holos
>>25482965That graph disagrees with other graphs which indicated less than 40% of her fans came from Niji or Holo
>>25482303Just have more collabs with holo, especially the new girls. Holofags always love the interaction between senpai and kouhai, especially for matuli. She should rape laplus on stream
>>25482872Looks like it'll seat 400-500?
>>25482806>Hololyzer didn't provide a more accurate data regarding chat logs, cross checking Vrabi & Holostats' data coincide with each other >All these data from all these sources are bullshit>My speculations are just as correct as theseNijifaggots
>>25482230Towa's yab was external.Festival didn't listen to her own fanbase, so they left her.
>>25483005Where's the rest of 60% came from?
>>25482965>>25483005You can’t simply add the left because a person can be subbed to more than one.
>>25482965Does vrabi takes DD into account?
I see somebody arguing in bad faith
>>25482303Apex is a debuff to her, she can easily get like 10k with utawaku or totsu.
>>25482854Only thing I'm claiming is that you guys are very butthurt over it being pointed out that your analyses should be taken with a big grain of salt since chat scraping is based off data that can be incomplete more often than not (the practicality of whether or not it is feasible to get a complete dataset being another matter entirely). You keep proving that claim right again and again. >>25482903There's no problem with CCV tracker sites, sure, there's enough of them out there to cross check data, plus it's easy to verify with your own eyes the CCV on the stream while it's happening live.
>>25482965Anon, that 71.9% includes the 60.2% of Salome. So it's more like they're Salome fans rather than Niji fans. Only 14.5% of her chatters are subbed to Mito. That's so incredibly low.
>>25483083awoken from cryostasis. they started demanding to see their Ojou so the handler put on Salome stream for them
>>25483083That's what we're trying to figure out slowpokeAt least 60% of her viewers don't crossover into other chuubas
>>25483179So the speculation that her viewers might really be in the 30+k range is more apt than 90+k
>>25483155>>25483179So 60-70% of the 90k+ people that showed up everynights are totally new viewers who never sub to any vtuber before?
>>25483143Your eyes are literally fucking lying to you. You cannot trust the data Youtube puts in front of you, don't be foolish that is also wildly inaccurate. This is the reason so many hoops are jumped through for data collection, because the base source is so far off the mark
>>25483124>totsuEveryone does.>utawakuAll of her recent ones have been at most 5/6k peak from what I see. The last stream she got over 10k with was APEX gacha.
>>25483232>60% of 100k is 30kThe absolute state of burgerland education system
>>25483155I think it's more that only 14.5% of her chatters have chatted before in a Mito stream. Subs can be hidden/private so it's not likely the API could pick them up.
>>25483233They don't show up every night. There was another graph which showed that she had a viewer turnover rate of 30%, so like 25k leave and are replaced every new stream.
>>25482872huh
>>25483264>14 minutes
>>25483233Basically, yeah
>>25483316The stream started only 5 minutes before the poll went up. That's not enough time for the viewers to cycle.
Sora planning for a second stream for the same game?
>>25483278>60% of her viewers don't crossover into other chuubas>30% who overlap>100 * .30 = ?>Nijifaggot reading comprehension = none
>>25483316Streamers on twitch can leave their polls open for half an hour and get less than 50% engagement. Just accept that the CCV is fucking worthless as a measurement because of how inaccurate it is
>>25483264>No tiddiesLAME
>>25483143>over it being pointed out that your analyses should be taken with a big grain of salt WOW! That’s some incredible insight you brought there!Who would say an anonymous cantonese yak shaving forum is the equivalent of infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters!?!Even the fact you felt compelled to point it out is dumber than whoever you are talking about. Here is your point, distilled to the basics>considering you don’t have the complete information all you can is derive conclusions from partial information, which might or might not be correct
>>25483155I added the ones on the right anon.But I guess I should probably make it a little more clearer since this data is more about audience share than percentage of audience (the sum goes above 100 after all).So I guess I should probably take averages for each of them.Let me calculate that again.> Subaru : 11.1%Means that 11.1% of her current commenters are also subbed to Subaru.With that said let's calculate holo audience share> Subaru 11.1%> Miko 10.5%> Koyori 8.4%Average : 10%So around 10% of Salome's current audience are subbed to someone in Hololive.From Niji side -> Mito : 14.5%> Yashiro : 11.6%> Lize : 10.1%> Nui : 9.5%> Furen : 9.5%> Niji main : 9.2%Average : 10.7%So around 10.7% of Salome's current audience are subbed to someone in Hololive.Which means around 80% of her current audience are not subbed to any Holo OR Niji.That's a new audience then.
>>25483375Anon, if anything >>25483304 this indicates the number of salami-only-viewers are more than 60k
>Try to open vrabi>ページが見つかりませんでしたDoes this happen to anybody else?
>>25482626The crowd cheering is what is missing at these 3D lives.
>>25483264Sure, I can get behind that. That doesn't really instill any confidence in any of the data at all though so it's amazing how confident people are in claiming they know exactly what's happening behind the scenes. But if it's just shitposting, hey, cool, no biggie.
>>25483467Second one should be *someone in Nijisanji, I forgot to correct the copy paste.
>>25480887Real tally anon! I kneel. Always remember anyone can make any post they want.
>>25483304She has churned almost 99% of her audience since her debut according to this chart
>>25483520What the fuck, 99% churn rate????
>>25483232no you retard, it just means she found 60k+ new viewers from fucking Japan where VTubing should have already been synonymous with streaming in terms of mindshare.
IPO scamNothing more, nothing less.
>>25480887based tally
>>25483475"salami-only-viewers" oh you mean the viewfarms and bots which leave exactly at 1am?Since as far as I recall after 1am when she was about to end she started shilling the Nijipex then she started hemorrhaging numbers as well
SEX WITH SALOME-CHAMA
>>25483275Yeah she pretty much never gets 10k. Matsuri really needs better taste in games though. Ark, Apex, and random games no one cares about isn't going to do much for her
>>25483457I felt compelled to point it out because this anonymous mandala snorting thread has been denying that they are exactly that, nothing more, for days now. It's sad that it had to be pointed out because of the incredible lack of self-awareness.
>>25483467You can’t just average it anon. There is actually a max and min range depending on the overlap>no overlap between Subaru, Miku and Koyori: add them up, it’s 30%>full overlap between them: take the highest value of the three, it’s 11.1%That’s as far as you can go without knowing the overlap, it’s between 11.1% and 30%. It definitely isn’t the average between them
>>25483564call it what you want, the fact is that these new demographic is somehow only loyal to salami Fucking GFE specialist like Rushia got nothing on her
>>25483502In order for this general to have any meaning at all, we have to assume the numbers have something of value to extract. >>25483520To expand on this, it's not THAT weird, this is Chloe's first few streams with the same chart for comparison. The thing that stands out the most is honestly the fact that Chloe has way more unique chatters proportionally to her CCV.
>>25483467Anon, please tell me you're just pretending to be stupid.
good morning fellas, just wanted to say that haachama should graduate along with the gen 1 whores that bring nothing to hololive
Does salome get 2-4 week collab ban?
>>25483467So based off the way YT recommends, a lot of those people are going to get funneled to someone in Hololive as well. When Hololive is more representative of Salami's style that might be a problem for Niji unless she actively starts pushing people to other people in her company. Which is tough when she's choosing to stream at midnight.
>>25483595This thread is not *one* person and that person is not whoever you chose to represent it. In the middle of infinite monkeys you’re just choosing the dumbest one and tarring the whole thread with its stench. In every anonymous forum there will be dumb people, don’t generalize their retardation to the whole group
>>25483520That's what word of mouth means.It was mostly nijifans that were there when she debuted, word of her spread AFTER her debut when she showed the gastroscopy etc. from clips and twitter.From what I can see here, she retained around 32% of her debut audience which is normal for any Niji or Holo, but she ALSO got new audiences to tune in for her post-debut streams.These new audiences obviously can't chat on her debut stream, hence the churn.
>>25483663You should graduate from life along with the rest of bug family that brings nothing to humanity
>>25483706Retard, no streamers keeps a retention rate like that
>>25483671>niji jp>collab banFucking newfag, I swear>>25483706Anon, no word of mouth would be able to bring NINETY-NINE PER CENT CHURN RATE
Is this the 3rd concert HoloEN has performed? Mori will be in two in the near future.
>>25483798where's the rumonclusu collab? She should help her senpai desu
>>25483721but fubuki has yet to break 10k, she's a failure along with the gen 1 old dogs, and should not only graduate but be terminated, they don't deserve a graduation stream nor a proper goodbye
>>25483636This new demographic that we don't know where they suddenly came from and that which we can't have a label compared to Luxiem's chink fujos or Kobo's teen indogs? So we can only surmise that they're JP normies which happen to stumble upon a Vtuber named Salami? A Vtuber who was not heavily marketed or advertised outside the Vtuber sphere? With mostly a JOP demographic beating the average of xQc? Right on
https://twitter.com/Remasuri32/status/1533019885663551488?Side view for Kiara's concert
>>25483858How should I know? I'm not Riku or Debior am I?
>>25483706Anon...
>>25483636They'll start getting other people in their recommends and since YT has been good about favoring Hololive for that it could be a problem for her and Nijisanji.
https://twitter.com/tsukumosana/status/1533002105962627072?s=21&t=8EQNIY_pzqzjxlahj4YZZQHow can anyone hate this sweet girl?
>>25481224i want to see what kobo's number looks like
>>25483935literally just parents brining their kids
>>25483663You leave my fat titty fox alone.
>>25483973I honestly feel bad for her, don't know why I do but I just feel that way, also what were the announcements she had last night?
>>25483935Not a huge room, but looks fun and people can actually cheer.
>>25483973she is ugly like IRyS
>>25484015Birthday event and orison by Ujico/Snail House
>>25483935Wait, there are dancers for Kiara concert? What the fuck
>>25483706>>25483798See >>25483647Chloe actually had a churn of above 99% too. The thing is, it's over the course of 8 streams. What's weird about Salome is that she's bringing in as many new people as she's losing to maintain a 90k floor, whereas comparatively Chloe dropped CCV to a 40k ceiling, so rather than churn its more accurate to say she filtered them. However, it's still true that only about 53 people of the people who watched her Debut were still there in her 8th stream, so it's not that odd honestly.
>>25484027That room is about 3 times bigger than OffKai concert though
>>25484027>looks funwhere is the number tho?
>>25484058Yeah, she hired them apparently.
>>25483973>check her likesWell...
>>25483973It's shitposters, anon. They don't actually care.
>>25484130Count them yourself, they're visible
Even mamaloni gets in on the bandwagon and the art has less likes/retweets in hour than a Kiara one
>>25484130There are about 500 people in that room
>>25484130Looks like 500-600 room capacity
>>25483992kys faggot
>>25484166
>>25484207>Wants to get rid of fat tits>Thinks other people are faggotsoff yourself.
>>25484130count the attendance on the offkai nijiEN "concert" instead. Must be easier for you.
Can we do some kind of check on Salome's twitter traction compared to similar growth spiking chuubas?
>>25484218Mamaloni and Magowasabi are my favourite holo fan artists
>what audience of 50k could possibly watch Salome's stream but not comment?you guys don't want to look up the CCV for a late-night anime in japan
>>25484248there can be other, bigger and better tits when they get rid of shitty money sinks that don't benefit cover at all, like the gen 1 whores
>>25484314Twitter number are unreliableIn EVERY FUCKING TWEET in niji account can get a fucking 10k likes with zero fucking commentAnd nijinigg answer is just "its not a tweet woth for comment, so people just like"
>>25484330Well duh, of course people would rather shut up and watch the fucking anime instead of looking at chat
>>25484332Kiara will get a new costume next Saturday
Speaking of Salome, some people in Niji English fan discord are DMing both Sushi and Vtuber Tengoku to sub Salome clips. This might be interesting.
>>25484332You sounds like a manwhore and incel at the same time, amazing
Kiara new outfit next week.
New costume for Kiara
>>25484485Post proofAlso, this is standard nijinigger behaviour
whoa
>>25484330Why would late night anime watchers suddenly show up to a single Vtuber's stream to watch them play RE 7 when they hadn't done so before? Why would more of them show up when the first batch leave?
>>25484544What’s the occasion?
I'm so excited for this stream bros...https://youtu.be/2uQTw9gP1uI
>>25484571watch her stream dumbass
>>25484544>OL KiwawaOh god, just imagine the inevitable mamaloni fanartI need to prepare my dick
>>25484544>>25484570looks fucking garbage, also can't wait to see it struggle to break 30k kek
>>25484411Okay but that can still be a point for comparison. Does she get 100k likes on all her tweets?
>>25484643nijiseethe
The occasion is a new costume. Maybe DoKomi gave her one.
>>25484485Unironically I think that would be a bad for Nijisanji if Youtube algo think Salome = Hololive
>>25484650The point is that comparing nijilivers twitter interaction to other chuubas is useless because of niji topic twitter
>>25484631No. I'll look up a VoD, and then get bored because she's not as charming as Marine is, and then I'll stop watching it.
>>25484607Huh, a zain anon in /#/A rare sight
>>25484485Beggars in action.
>>25484544Irys.... Even EN hates her
>>25484697I don't understand. Is Niji twitter actually, seriously botted? Because that sounds even more sus than Salome's stream numbers
>>25484650You can check it yourselfhttps://twitter.com/1000000lome?t=YW0SBYsP-l53_QDLfDQRjA&s=09And then compare it with antherNiji twitter circle is a weird place, especially in number
It’s funny how the weakest Myth is actually the most sponsored. It just goes to show to skewed the perception of this thread is.
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1533026446901653506Was this her 1M gift?
>>25483686yep which is why we keep predicting that she'll filter some of her audience over time once the novelty wears off, and any reclining numbers will filter the "I'm watching coz she has high numbers" people as well.I expect her to still retain a 40k floor though.
>>25484870sounds like it
>>25484816Luxiem gets upwards of 30k likes on a lot of their daily posts or 10k likes compared to HoloEN with only a few thousands but like always, their numbers on stream are shit
>>25484809See it yourself, and compare it with another tweetEvery tweet made by niji always got big likesSee mika ban thingy, she got 50k likesBut when she comeback only 1k show up
>>25484544>>25484570Irys...
when did kiara reached 1m subs? this 1m outfit seems so late
>>25484692Already some overlap with viewers as seen in the info above. Specifically with Koyori, Miko and Subaru. YT algo in action isnt something that is going to benefit Salami here as tourists are going to get funneled elsewhere and the latter two are probably bad news for her. Subaru is a better conversationalist and Miko is a great entertainer.
What's gold candidate for tonight aside from salome ofc?
>>25484940Over a year ago
>>25484870what is this retardation?now look at ENfags act like this is okay when none of council nor irys gotten a new one, they won't even mention irys now yet they were seething about holoX
>>25484913>>25484921Something about this fucking stinks
New Uiha cover with Sukoya and more gorgeous art by Parsley https://youtu.be/raJe0X_AqykParsley was famous before making Chloe, but has been getting a lot more high profile Vtuber work since.Also, think with Salome, more pf the NijiFemales that have been streaming less and less, like Uiha, will be coming back?Or will more go the way of Melissa and Warabe?
>>25484809Not botted, niji has their own topic so any of their liver follower would also see anything niji liver post even if they don't follow said liver
>>25484870Why did the other myth not have one? This seems like a pity reward Kek
>>25484921Nijisanji is the land of tourists and un-invested casuals.
Wait, why did Salome funnel more into Hololive than her own Nijisanji coworkers? Is that normal?
>>25484945Koyori also streams fucking constantly. She gets low views now but her hours cannot be contested, her followers are loyal.
>>25484921>6 Comments>2,2421 Retweets>13.4K LikesNothing suspicious here at all folks, that chink over there with hundreds of phones? Oh no no that's our totally legit JOP normie viewer, what are you racist? Oh yeah Anycolor IPO is on the 8th be sure to invest, we're the best Vtuber company out there with all of these high numbers as you can see
>>25485034Suisei and Pekora still keeping their 1M sub wish
>>25484940Usually members want a 1 million concert if they can sing.Kiara was probably holding off for that, but settled on a costume earlier this year.
>>25483798>>25484072how exactly do you calculate viewer churn? the graph labeling is dogshit so I don't get it.From what I can see on Salome's graph, she had 5911 uniques on her debut stream, of which around 503 people watched her latest RE 7 stream as well.How do you calculate 99% from that?
>>25484959the only ones I see are miko, shion, maybe luna since she's collabing with haato and kanata? maybe festival with her totsu?
>>25484990Nah, this is a solved equation.If holo were to have their own topic you would see the same thing, too bad they don't seem to care enough to apply
>>25485034You don't get a costume at 1m. It sounds like you get 1 request at a million and Kiara decided on this
>>25484870Tweet deleted. Does abyone have the screenshot? What was it about?
>>25485034Because she wanted that. The others probably picked something different for their 1mil.
>>25485129Because Hololive and Cover do not care about forcefully acquiring fans
>>25484980say yes if this faggot is just autistic and can't talk about anything but creaming over EN every 5 fucking seconds
>>25485135People will be so confused, even for those who only watch EN side of things lol
>>25485034>>25485135I've never heard of this before, didn't see anyone do anything special for one million, lamy hit it like a week ago and haven't seen anything for thisthis definitely feels like a pity reward after the chicken threw a tantrum
kek, Aki is cursed as fuck. Her 3D live got banned>only in JapanI would get her house checked to see if she didn’t build it over an Indian cemetery or something
>>25485072Yeah. She's just a bit more...filtering than the other two. Casuals might get pretty intimidated by her streaming schedule. Subaru is probably the best entry out of the three.
>>25485182Yes
>>25485182no
>>25485188>I've never heard of this beforeProbably because you don't actually watch streams.
>>25484921>>25484809Stop deflecting, niji twitter was already discussed months ago and that's because they have a topic and Hololive doesn't. No need to go in a goose chase trying to prove that they also bottled twitter when they've already gotten these kind of numbers since 2 years ago.
>>25485182these types of ENshizo are braindeadthey even sperge out in other threads
>>25485188you don't watch hololive enough, that's why. This is practically common knowledge
>>25485188From the longest time the girls can ask for a one off thing for their 1M. Songs, outfits, special projects
>>25483481I just got it too, weird shit. Seems to only happen for some streams though.
>>25485116It's literally labeled on the bottomUnique chatters that's present in all of her stream is 53
>>25485209Song choice I assume? Do we have any idea which?
>>25485249>>25485265>>25485267all of you are wrong, YOU don't watch streamsI do, never heard of it.what did the other EN girls get for a million?
>>25485163https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1533028345948274688
>>254851881M rewards have been a thing for a while. Remember that stupid purple onesie Coco had before graduating? That was her 1M celebration outfit. It just came at a bad time because, well, she was graduating so she had it for like what, a month?
>>25485255Need to get that Hololive topic.
>>25485267I wonder what Gura spent her wishes on.
>>25485296It was actually rushed because she was graudating, normally there would've been a couple more months befor eit was revealed
>>25485209Hopefully it comes back. Matsuri's is still gonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELdC0CxYFc
>>25485285They didn't cash in their reward yet, it's not mandatory.
>>25485209SME again?
>>25485280Toy’s Factory, don’t know which
>>25485285I think Mori wanted a solo concert for her 1mil
>>25484485why don't these retards ask one of theirs to sub her?Oboretai already has clips of her out, why do they feel the need to bother holoclippers?
>>25485014you know why preferential treatment in workplaces lead to people not giving a shit or quitting right
>>25485318Off the top of my head Suisei, Watame and Kanata all have yet to make their one million wish so she's probably still holding onto it.
>>25485255Honestly it's probably better the topic doesn't exist. This way we can gauge Salome's twitter numbers as generously as possible and assume she's basically pushing the whole brand up. From a glace, she can hit about 50k likes on her tweets. About the same as any other tweet from Nijisanji, some fucking how it looks like.How does that compare to Holos?
>>25485370And she wanted a nendo for 2m
all of the girls who didn't "cash" in their rewards actually cashed them to have sex with me, with the exception of kiara because she's a blazing lesbian sadly
>>25485421kys omega
https://twitter.com/nonk_fox/status/1532755491952394240Holy fuck what is this from? Is this a teaser for an upcoming MV or something? Or an actual fan creation?
so gura has 3 wishes?
>>25485014Why would they? Salome's success means literally nothing for the rest of Nijisanji. Her magical ghost audience apparently just doesn't give a fuck about anybody else.
i wish gura would ask for world tour concert for her 4m subs celebration
Here, have some numbers https://youtu.be/HcNHe5SQ_YE184k in 16 hours. Present your cope
>>25485457Fanmade animation, reference from idol master, scroll down the comment anonAnd this has been posted about 1 year ago(?) Ive seen this thing posted somewhere
>>25485285>Everyone heard about this already, but not me. They must be in the wrong.
>>25485457Looks like a parody to Idol Master.
>>25485464someone shop Yagoo's face onto a genie I need to make a 3 wishes joke
>>25485481>cumbuds actually think she's worth thishow about she wishes for less dead subs?
>>25485457Looks like fun created. Stuff like this is common for Hololive
>>25485457>Rushia>Coco>upcoming MVAt best cancelled MV, but most likely just fan animation.
Graph comparing Kaela, Millie and Enna's subscriber growth.
>>25485362It's always fucking Toy's Factory.
>>25485536nijiseethe
>>25485390Watame dragon onesie isn't her 1M request ?
>>25485507Actually shit numbers. Bring us something viral or don't even bother.
>>25485390I think Watame wants something grand like an anime OP/ED. Not really something Cover can really do, but not like she needs anything else. At least she's making her intent clear to them.
>>25485536either you're a nijinigger or you're just a weeb having an impossible dream of becoming a Japanese
>>25485591Didn't she collab with a restaurant for the 1M reward? Or is that Okayu?
>>25485572Not that I know of.
>>25485466she's the Kizuna for niji rn, no one watching gives a shit about everyone else in upd8, just like no one watching gives a shit about other nijis
>>25485619That was an organic collab
>>25485572if it is it wasn't mentioned
>>25485611neither actually, just someone who's unbiased and isn't delusional enough to give goooorah a world tour being actual good singers like suisei or azki
>>25485540Here's another graph with Met from 774 inc's VApArt instead of Enna since her subscribers have been growing close to Kaela and Millie's recently.
>>25485619It might have been Okayu's request, but Merino actively wanted to collab with Watame because she mentioned them back in 2020 during the stream she had with Noel.
>>25485666funny that sounds just like what a nijinigger would say
>>25485507Watched it, still don't get her appealNothing really made me go *Ah now I see what draws her fans* kind of momentShe seemed like a run of the mill Vtube talent
>>25485390I know haachama's one was her haatochama thing she had
Marine 1M wish, IIRC, was that Connected Fantasia gen 3 concert
>>25485507Is that supposed to be an impressive number?
>>25485694rent free faggot
>>25485695Why do you think the algorithm considers her a holo? It's exactly because she ticks exactly those boxes
>>25485672What’s going on with Met? She inclined hard lately, anything special going on there?
>>25485733Nijiseethe
>>25485278It's more like, how do you calculate that? The unique number of chatters who have attended literally all her streams seem to be 503 on the left side.On the bottom you have > 5911 : Uniques from debut> 1426 : Uniques who attended both debut and second stream> 624 : ???how was this calculated?
>>25485666>actual good singers>suiseigod forbid your hearing capabilitygura is literally miles better at singing than that shitter>Azkiliterally who?
>>25485695Her presentation is very Holo-like which makes me laugh when Nijifags talk about her being some sort of vtuber Jesus. We already have a bunch of girls like her, so it's sad they're just used to a bunch of hacks.
VRabi shitting the bed for anyone else?
>>25485769Nice try, Nijifag. You'll need better bait than that.
>>25485769this ENshart cope if I've ever seen itcompare karaoke numbers for both then come back>4 million subs btw
>>25485209>she didn’t build it over an Indian cemetery or somethingSeeing her bad lucks over the years. This could actually be the case kek
>>25485736>>25485781Eh? I wasn't drawn to her, nothing about her was charismatic, engaging nor funny compared to the girls.i.e.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksBOppDOlCc
>>25485803Yes it got overwhelemedthis is why you use the superior numberfagging website vstats
>>25485827>holobros thing this is engaging or funnythe standards holobros...they've fallen so far down it seemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqXOxXTAy94this is what funny looks like.
>>25485819keep coping weebmaybe in your dreams you'll get a Japanese wife.. just dont give up bro
>>25485748Anon, that 503 is the number of viewers that chatted both on her debut and her latest RE7 stream
So anyone has the list of all the 1M sub reward from hololive? I think most of them hasn't cashed in their wish yet.
>>25485748>The unique number of chatters who have attended literally all her streams seem to be 503 on the left side.No, that's just the crossover between chatters from her debut stream and chatters who showed up to her final RE #7 Stream. The number at the bottom 'Chatters that's been in all streams' are exactly that, the ones retained from the first stream into the next. Only 78 stayed from Debut until the RE#7 stream.You take the number of chatters using their unique ids and then you cross reference them for where they appear in other streams. If they appear in both streams, the total of those is listed. If they appear in three of the streams, it's the next number, ect.
>>25485897Not really because that's not really something anyone thought to keep track off
>>25485695She feels like the past vtubers (during oyabun days) except a streamer.
>>25485897none of anything that has been mentioned so far is even confirmed as a 1 million sub reward, except kiara's
>>25485882No one says 'holobros' unironically, idiot. Stop using this to bait, you'll be less obvious with your shitposts.
So how's the nijinips reaction to salome passing all their oshi in subs?
So Salome just left Mito in the dust5 years of hard work grinding from scratch beaten in a week. Crazy to think about.
>>25485942Cocos too, there were a few others.
>>25485695> still don't get her appealThere's a reason she's only popular within Japan and not outside of it
>>25485827Like I said, her presentation is similar. Not necessarily the quality.
>>25485966It's pretty much like how Gura's growth fellt for the JP.So insanely fast that is just funny. No one really upaet.She kinda needs to pass everyone within 1-2 months for the meme to work though.
>>25485942anything that has "one million commemoration" or "One million celebration" in it is a one million sub reward
>>25485966she has done well enough by giving birth to modern vtubers
>>25485827This has nothing to do with the current discussion, or even that clip, but I really wish Kiara could collab with Marine one day. I feel like they would have synergy
Already Sponsored By McDonaldshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/6rmDKUHGc5Q
>>25485739She was teamed with Kanae for the CR cup. Ratna Petit was teamed with Kuzuha too, so she was also growing a bunch recently.
https://youtube.com/shorts/6rmDKUHGc5Q?feature=share>81k views in 19 minutesOkay, the stream stuff I can pass off the people saying bots this fake views that etc etcBut what the fuck is this LOL
>>25486026Would the nijis experienced this feeling before with HoloEN and hololive in general? This will not be a new to them
>>25486042As in, gay hag sex(in the bahamas)?
>>25485507Subaru WWE entrance gets 600k overnight
>>25486042Because I want to see what is the draw, what makes her have high CCV, all those who have said in her defense for having 90+k average CCV was that she had a certain appeal >>25485998 >>25486001, I want to see what it is
>>25486119An actually successful short? What the fuck, this has never happened before
EDF collab ending. A shame since FBK and Watame were both barely short of 10k.
>>25486026Welp at least Gura's and Myth's growth transferred into their JPsenpais. Salome tho.. i can imagine the seethe from nijigirls that actually take this career seriously
>>25486119>a short
>>25486159Compare that to Aogiri High School's official channel, the most successful VTuber shorts channel, as far as I know.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPLeqi7rIqS9uY4_TrSUOMg/videos
>>25486026Even if Salome gets the 1m record, it doesn't really bear a lot of weight since she's gonna be like the 30th 1m. Only when she gets 2M I guess. Calli was retarded not to celebrate 2M.
>>25486275>Some have a bit over 100k and others have millionsOkay?
It's almost a year since their debut and non of the council hitting 1mil. What a bunch of failures
>>25486119Is this normal? Because as far as I know, the views still needs to be processed first, not in 19 minutes.
>>25485895>>25485899Okay, let me make the question super simple.> No. of unique chatters on debut stream : 5911> No. of uniques that were in BOTH Debut and first RE7 stream : 1426I got both of this.Can you just walk me through the process of how you calculate the third value, i.e. 624?
Salome is actually so impossible she could probably play FF14 to 90k people without dropping CCV
>>25486296The speed is pretty impressive, but it is a different environment and circumstances. I'm more interested in when her slowdown will be since she's still largely just getting a JP audience and the JP market size isn't going to do her any favors.
>>25486352Take the second value, 1426, and calculate how many of those were also in the 3rd stream, 624.
>>25486355She'd crater her channel.
https://youtu.be/wP4EcA2s4isWatame has an announcement
>129k views in 30 minutesno seriously, what the fuck
>>25486352>Can you just walk me through the process of how you calculate the third value, i.e. 624That's the number of unique chatter that's present on on both her debut stream AND her 2nd RE7 stream
>>25486418Irys don’t look… Watame is ready to have her 3d debut again..
>>25486428Salome is either JP Algorithm crack, or she's botting, take your pick
>>25486428>>25486453It's a fucking short.
>>25486148Well many people have tried explaining it and it still left most people here confused. It's heavily JP centric humor which doesn't translate too well.It's kinda like old British comedy in a sense. The posh language and the shenanigans that accompany it can be fun to some Americans, but only Brits will get most of the appeal since they culturally immersed in the stuff.
>>25486470yes, but it's still goddamn fast. give me a short that has gotten that many views in such a short period of timei'm not saying it's bots, i'm just shocked at the speed
>>25486449I can't believe Watame stole IRyS's 3D stream.
>>25486470Shorts don't succeed. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said it never happened before
>>25486444No, that's 979 according to the graph's first column.
>>25486476So basically, its a shitty obviously fake accent and pretentious vocabulary, mockery. Extremely lowest common denominator humor
>>25486537Ah yeah, my mistake
>>25486396...so its done separately and has nothing to do with the no. of uniques shown on the graph?
>>25486453She's definitely in JP algorithm her stream is always on trending.
This is just sad for a collab.
DESUWA SHORT > pekor short
>>25486596Yes it does have to do with the uniques. How fucking hard is this? Just plug the number in and take the number of unique ids which are in both the first and second stream. Then check those ids against the number of unique ids in the third stream. You now have all the unique ids which are in the first, second, and third stream.
>>25486574Why fake? Old british comedy had actual brits and their accents were every bit real.Vocabulary is pretentious, yes, but this is an anime girl speaking it. And it's juxtaposed with all the swearing and non-ladylike stuff she says like using her piss to remove the smell of mold, adding another layer of comedy.> LCDwell if the humor meant for the lowest common denominator and you still don't get it...
OH NO DESUWA https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6rmDKUHGc5QSalome is already releasing Youtube shorts on off-days; how the fuck did she speedrun such an important concept that took Marine and Pekora months if not years to learn. SHE IS TOO POWERFUL
>>25485318Didn't she get a nendoroid? Maybe it was one of her wishes
>>25486625I've never seen it
>>254854643,97 wishes
>>25486675THE FACE OF VTUBING HOLY SHIT
>>25486668Lowest common denominator humor isn't funny to anyone who isn't stupid.
>>25486652Literally only the first column of the graph is relevant to the calculation.If we're calculating viewers that chatted on every single stream, then only the debut stream's uniques and the shared uniques that appeared on the other streams matter for the calculation.
>>25486706It's not funny because you know the joke.You don't even understand the joke, so it's funny you're calling it LCD.
>>25486731Do you just not understand how to read fucking graphs?
>>25485966Thats what been discussed for fucking weekAt this point it really pointless to have a fuckton number of member, if salome ccv being keep as it is without being distributed to another niji memberThey will lose all motivation and left eventuallyWhats the point if all of that come only ro salome
>>25486476I kind of get it but not really, my personal entertainment I would say has not been limited geographically or to a certain language and I've tried to consume all sorts of media globally, for me what is perceived entertaining is entertaining, you might miss some intricacies here and there due to certain cultural differences but it doesn't really deter you to something objectively good.>he posh language and the shenanigans that accompany it can be fun to some AmericansI absolutely adore Blackadder but it's not a hit in America, I love Gaki no Tsukai when I barely knew JP entertainment, El laberinto del fauno and Amélie are good moviesSalome though, I don't get it
>>25486760It's not funny, because there isn't a joke. Some people just laugh because they're stupid I guess.
>>25486706Good thing there isn't a vast potential audience who will still love such humor, even moreso since actual good humor is usually aimed at them and pisses them off...oh wait...
Yeah I am pretty sure there’s an entire team behind Salome at this point. She is releasing so much content at alarming speedFor once Niji actually learn to invest in 1 superstar instead of spreading it out
>>25486841That should have been obvious when they payed for her bots. Those cost more money than they usually spend on entire generations of new livers
>>25486785I have heard that alot of Westerners living in Japan absolutely loathe Japanese TV content, if that is the type of new audience that Salome is drawing in then it might not be quite as surprising why people outside of Japan are confounded by her success while JP is eating it up like the new best thing.
In case you guys want to have a laughTaken from Luca’s 6hr long stream. Essentially, Niji boys live in their own entirely different world. There is more overlap with fucking Nijisanji ID than there is Nijisanji JP. Yes. You heard that right. Also, as you’d expect there’s a ton of male overlap in the chat with the one not so surprising female>Nina
>>25486872Fuck your bot excuse. How long until we can stop arguing about this and accept the new normal?
>>25486905When she reclines to an actual realistic number. 90k floor for RE 7 is completely ridiculous and you should feel ashamed for believing it for even a second
>>25486769I do, but most of the "calculation" seems to be opaque as fuck so only this particular column is relevant.From this graph we can see that at least 503 of the people who were chatting on her debut stream ALSO chatted on part 7 of her RE7 stream.Sure, they may have missed a few streams here and there, but these are people who were there at debut, and are still there now.The percentage comes to around 8.5% or so.i.e. 8.5% of the people who watched her debut also watched her RE7 Part 7 stream.My question is, how does this equate to 99% viewer churn? The calculation is completely opaque so I'm supposed to just take your word for it?
>>25486934All number are real until proven otherwise. No, chat speed and other make up ratio and shit is not proof that her view are bots
>>25486905WtfSo you say a 90k re stream is fucking the same with suisei 3d concert?You good?
>>25486946Goddamn it, the other columns were important for the cross-section to see the overlap between those streams and other streams
>>25486059But there is no "includes paid promotion"?
>>25486905What? New normal?A 90k re7 stream?And the viewer go whooshh after she end the stream?
>>25486841How long has short been a feature on youtube? Blame other companies for not innovating and min maxxing.But yes i think there is at least some supporting effort behind her content. I don't see a lot of marketing from Niji though. Her description on Niji page is the shortest of all members.
>>25486972yes, maybe Suisei 3D concert sucks lmao
>>25487002see >>25486962Clearly anyone can do this if they're just that good, Salome is just so much more talented and entertaining that she can tap the same number of viewers as major events in regular gaming streams.
>>25487026this, finally someone gets it
Salome isn't even streaming today, what's with all this holocope?
>>25486505Marine, Watame and Fubuki have both had really well preforming shorts.
No one can say anything genuinely positive about Salome because no one has watched her streams. Anyone who's larping just claims she's really entertaining or some vague shit, but no one actually has anything specific to say.
$15M in net profits for the new fiscal year and they're using it on viewfarms to make shares more worth. Typical.
>>25487057still get the gold, thats why
>>25486902do some for kobo vs id
>25486705Why would someone samefag something so stupid?
>>25487076its closer to $8.1m which is still pretty huge
>>25487002Yes? A normie finishes one episode of Salome, then go to sleep since it's already 1. They are not going to watch, say, Hakase in the middle of her DQ playthrough which will last till 3. They treat it akin to an anime episode, self contained.
>>25486984And none of them contribute to the final result that the graph is supposed to convey, i.e. the number of chatters that were there in ALL her streams.Which isn't really a useful value anyway, since what we're trying to find out is how she's keeping this huge CCV since debut.For that, just the overlap between debut and the latest stream is good enough, since those guys might have missed streams in between or not chatted on them (thereby reducing the no. of uniques at the end), but they still showed up to the recent stream, meaning they're still fans at the end of the day.And that amount is around 8%, which is somewhat realistic.
>>25487075I don't even need to watch a stream to know if the numbers are bullshit. No one, not even xqc gets retention as big as her Past data of vtubers also shows the same. No matter how entertaining you are, you don't get 90k on an re7 stream, even marine/Noel asmr bath Collab got only 81k.
>>25487118That isn't the final fucking result the chart was supposed to convey you idiot. It was an additional piece of information. The cross-section was the point
>>25487026So we're going to accept at face value that an unknown streamer that came out of nowhere is now part of the upper echelon of overall streamers globally? Okay>>25487075This is what I was saying, if she is entertaining, people would be able to enumerate what makes her what she is, I've watched her clips here and there and caught some streams but I just don't get it
>>25487075Entire paragraphs about her have been posted here which you're obviously too EOP to get, and so you never will.Keep coping, she's purely for the Japanese audience.
>>25487057She released a short of her mowing down a Giga Big Mac which has gone viral and racked up 170k views in 1 hour.
>>25486771Maybe they'll be leaned on less by management for revenue if the Salomes of the world exist as compared to a world where she doesn't, and they're expected to perform better since that's all they have.Alternatively maybe they'll get pushed into retirement instead in their search for Salomes.
>>25481390Why isn't she streaming?
>>25487181PEGORA DONT LOOK
>>25487181those jealous watamates and nousagis i swear, just because their short got mogged, they behave like this
>>25487060Marine's shorts are the only reason her growth didn't grind to a hear halt and she is on the verge of surpassing Pekora.Do not underestimate the explosive potential of shorts.
>>25487181>viralWhere do you people come from?
Fuck it. I'll just say what's on my mind. You know what makes me sure, absolutely SURE that Salome is just a meme with no substance? She has no coomer posting. Every Vtuber get's coomer posting, even Haachama has tons of it, but Salome has more than an order of magnitude greater viewership and there is no explosion of coomers jacking off over her? Come on.
>>25487075because she's not actually that interesting, she's a pretty standard vtuberthe most interesting thing about her is her numbers
Can Cover copy the Salone strategy?
>>25481486>but I was more interested in Nyanners hitting a wall and reclining hard compared to the two other big VShojos who are leaving her in the dustconfirmed boyfriend
>>25487165What makes something truly entertaining transcends even languageSalome for one, is not entertaining
It's the time of the day for the thread to fill with shitposting retards again.
>>25487242learn to search at the right placenigger
>>25487256
If there’s anything I’ve learned from vrabi’s new stats, it’s that almost EVERY JP who comments has Miko as a subscribed channel. It’s almost exclusively 2nd/3rd in the charts I’ve seen.
>>25487279She has no lewds, this is a fact that you know as well as I do
>>25487291new stats? damn that sounds interesting, I better check it out
>>25487090The vod chart isn’t up yet. It seems like a good 90% of the streams last night don’t have an existing page right now ever since the change so only a few of the vods as well as like every vod started today are running
>>25487246They didBut in ID branch, that kind of chuubas didnt grow on tree anon
Since jp race is already decided for the next month or so hows the wheelchair race going. I know gura got 20k has nijiEN cooked up a good buff stream lately
>>25486119>177k nowyup, botted. right holobros??
>>25487249Not from mid-2021
>>25487116No they don't. They don't even watch multiple streams of Salomes. And she's not a fucking anime anyway, she's a streamer. This comparison doesn't work.
>>25487314Yea it’s super sick. It shows messages/min, who among the chatters are subscribed to what company channel(s) and who among those channels they’re subscribed to the most
>>25487229The point was they often grow quickly in comparison to other content since the format auto-replays and they're fucking short. High numbers are more likely unless you're really shit at making them like Pekora.
>>25487374Based Fubuki
>>25487256Japan has a history of being rather insular, I don't think its always necessary to go global to be successful if you're that much of a smash hit in your own homeland.
>>25487408The funny thing about this shitpost is you trying to suggest 177k is impressive.
>>25487374there are 3D debuts, birthdays, anniversaries coming upSalome beating Miko's new outfit was great for setting the cat among the pigeons, but since she's going to recline and there are still heavy hitters coming up there are going to be some really competitive days at really high numbers coming up
>>25486841I'm not surprised at all. Her activity feels like somebody trying to min-maxing, so she consistently gets a big number.I'm not surprised if Anycolor does that for IPO
>>25487492anon...have you seen Pekora's numbers?
>>25487481I can't believe this fucking cope holy shitThere is no fucking way Salome is among the most popular streamers in the whole fucking world off the back of nothing but her domestic audience who emerged out of the woodwork for her and her alone, with no apparent causeStop being an idiot
>>25487554You matter less than you think, EOP
>>25487374It's like when merc was the dominant team in F1. The race for silver is more interesting.
How do we save HoloEN? Myth has completely stagnated and is dead in the water. Council are going to hit their 1 year anniversary and none of them will be even close to 1 million subs. CCV is so low that even Gura struggles to get 20k these days.So here's the scenario. Yagoo has hired you and given you full creative freedom to change up ENs content however you want. What changes do you make to ensure that in 3 months time at least 4 members of EN can consistently get over 20k viewers for their streams
>>25487554EOP malding
Does the ongoing nijiEN streams that fucking boring you faggots just decides to spout idiotic ramblings instead of watching them? jesus christ.
>>25487612they all have sex with me
>>25487432man I'm just getting loads of ページが見つかりませんでした, the fuck am I doing wrong
>>25487554Yahoo!LINENicoNico DougaThree things mostly unheard of in the west that are absolutely huge in Japan.
>>25487612How do we save NijiEN? Myth has completely stagnated and is dead in the water. Obsydia are going to hit their 1 year anniversary and none of them will be even close to 1 million subs. CCV is so low that even selen struggles to get 5k these days.So here's the scenario. Riku has hired you and given you full creative freedom to change up ENs content however you want. What changes do you make to ensure that in 3 months time at least 4 members of EN can consistently get over 5k viewers for their streams
>>25487606You will never be Japanese. Also, Japan is a saturated market and it was small to begin with. A streamer from there will never be able to consistently pull big flesh streamer numbers, this isn't cope, this is an objective fucking fact.The EN market is bigger than the JP market and it still doesn't produce streamers like this. One rising from the Vtuber hole with a predominately JP audience is a fucking delusion. Wake the fuck up.
>>25487492Salome187k in 1 hourPekora117k in 1 day110k in 1 day46k in 2 days51k in 2 days67k in 2 days88k in 2 days82k in 4 days89k in 4 days149k in 5 days192k in 7 days
>>25487665Bonus:DoraemonCrayon Shin-chanDragon Quest
>>25487612collabs with male streamers
>>25487707compare to Marine instead
>>25487693>what is jun>what is korekoreshe is jsut their vtuber version
>>25487492Marine's numbers are botted so obviously he's not gonna compare that.
>>25487686Nobody cares about NijiEN, they're irrelevant.
>>25487740What a retard
>>25487751have you seen how fast her member stream chats are? Marine is the last person I expect to be botted
>>25487554
>>25487722She only has one released in last week, 439k in 7 days. I think its fair to say Salome will meet that number before the end of 1 day, let alone 12 hours.
https://youtu.be/OOunr19A3w8Q cover - Russian Ver.
How long did it take Mikeneko's new youtube channel to reach 1M?
>>25487740Korekore is not consistently popular, he's a dramatuber besides. Also, he's a flesh tuber anyway. Jun is a completely different beast, with zero commonality to Vtubers in general and Salome in specific. You're wrong, Vtubers will never reach the level of 'popularity' Salome has. Stop shilling her botted ass
>>25487612graduate shitters like ame and sana, give memorandum for minimum streaming time in a week and if they failed to comply then they get graduated too
miko wwe series unique chatter numbersvrabi borked sometime between when i started pulling stats to about an hour ago. had to grab the ccv data manually from vstats hence the change to avg ccv instead of median.couple of things kinda mess with this one: no chat log for the first stream and chat was set to sub-only when fbk got added
>>25487664Yup most of the vod pages don’t exist right now. The ones that’re currently online don’t work either. There’s a few of them that work though. Some examples are Subaru’s streams, Gura, Luca, Salome, Koyori, Noel, the EDF collabWe gotta wait till the streams end for them to open up the stats it seems like
>>25487805did she already get there? wow
>>25487740>what is ranunculus>what is selejo
>>25487612
>>25487693Here's an Occam's Razor for you:-Salome is botted and a week somehow wasn't enough for Youtube to take noticeOR-Salome went viral
Okay I'm declaring it now:Salome is the xQc killer with schrödinger's viewers
>>25487765so was gura's debut buff also botted?
>>25487805she hasn't? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
>>25487833> Lucadoesn't seem to be working either
>>25487894wow, salome already overtook her
>>25487880Gura didnt pull a constant 90k+ perstream without a single drop on ccv
>>25487870So it's botting then. Virality doesn't explain this, so it's not a valid excuse. Streamers like this don't just happen, in any market, and especially not in the JP market. If something is impossible, then it must be fake.
>>25487894Fuck, my bad then
>>25487894>Last public stream 1 month agoWhat's this woman doing?
It's funny that JOPs would rather believe that hololive is botted simply because some fans use tools like holodex during marika tourney, but in no way would matomefags even suspect niji of botting.
>>25487665>>25487711Another one that might half apply since it did previously go big in the west for a time before receding is Hello Kitty. That shit was everywhere in my country but now I never hear anything about it anymore.In Japan? They have a fucking televised popularity contest every year which I swear gets more votes than the actual Japanese government elections.
SALOME TIMELOOPS AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>25487935touching grass apparently.Hope it's good for her.
>>25487935streaming on twitcasting instead
>>25487894What no content does to a nigga baka
>>25487935She deletes VODs and streams members only for maximum wallet milking.
>>25487913only reason anons are so fed up on making many excuses for how salome have 90k ccv is because they havent seen anything like it, just like how gura had 40k average when no recent debutant in that time had the same number. they got mindblown for short.
How is Niji gonna do their Apex tourney when custom games are broken btw
>>25487880Gura dropped off hard like every fucking debut does. Chloe lost 80k CCV from her debut, and then dropped to 35k. Salami retained 90k floor, that's something literally unprecedented
>>25487936how would a JOP end up on this site, dummy
>>25486638The bot budget got reallocated. Also it's a special day today in Chinkland.
>>25487935still afraid of antis, so mostly doing members only streams
>>25488045gura actually inclined in her 3rd month but was overshadowed by pekora arc
>>25488046They come from 5ch to examine us akin to a trip to the zoo.
>>25487606Unironically, SEAniggers like you are way less important than EOP and JOPcry more weeb
>>25487947anon this entire thread is in a constant state of timeloop.consequence of being the origin of the multiverse I suppose.
>>25488032What happened to Apex?
>>25487847Kek
>>25488032it's a tournament for fun so they don't mind disconnections, unlike CR cup which is a competition with a prize
shoul I watch King or Oscar
>>25488098if you go to 5ch they don't believe the botting narrative to nearly the same extent it gets mentioned here
HOLY KEK
>>25488024Gura was not fucking impossible though. She was literally receiving every fucking buff in the world, from debut buff, to corporate buff, to PL buff, to music buff, she also went viral, and was part of the first generation of a new market push. She had literally every advantage, and she actually streamed more often back then too.None of that created numbers equivalent to salami's, because Gura's numbers dropped and salami's just don't.
Ohasuba, Oozora Subaru:https://vrabi.net/video/nxsELnSlRB8Peak CCV: 22,766Stream duration: 1 hour, 5 minutes4052 unique chattersMax messages per min: 808Resident Evil 4, Hyakumantenbara Salomehttps://vrabi.net/video/9RUaxQXQzwcPeak CCV: 94,246Stream duration: 1 hour10,797 unique chattersMax messages per min: 1,283
Roboco hitting 7K!?
>>25488188Did you notice, last month she wasn't the bottom holo anymore too? The roboco line is no more.
>>25487900I can pull it up on my phone just fine, the until dawn one? Maybe the browser might be fucking up a bit. On the phone the stats don’t always show up immediately if the stream page loads up too so I just have to do a refresh of the page and then it’s there at least
>>25488166unironically not salomates fault that chumbuds find gura boring
>>25487242t. EoP faggot
What's with the stupid EoP meme? Is this seriously some kind of 'she's too Japanese for you to comprehend why she's popular' thing?
>>254881375ch is extremely shit at numberfagging properly though. They didn't recognize CCVID was a thing until vtubers like Flare started hitting 500 CCV while /#/ had already analyzed the data and knew something was fucked from the Mikkorone collab, well over a week before any JOPs started taking the issue seriously.
200k>200k200k>200k200k>200k200k>200k
>>25488112Custom lobby is broken
>>25488153>Salome/Miko general>#2301I can't even imagine the horrors that have transpired there or are happening right now.
>>25488257t. EOP
>>25487456I have a feeling even if Pekora does the exact same thing as other Holo her short would still be underperforming. Maybe her fans just don’t like watching short
>>25488208Damn I'm happy for her.
>>25488257lurk moar newfag
>>25488221t. SEAnigger
>>25488208Now its the Matsuri Line...which has a far different meaning for that term than it did 3 years ago.
>>25488276The third post is a screenwide copypasta about Akua and Chinks
>>25488257Unironically, Yes.
>>25488354Based.
>>25488269I forgot that CCVID robbed Mikkorone's big number
>>25488349yeah, that term already means somethingPretty amazing that Matsuri determines the boundary line in two different contexts now. Because no-one in hololive has crossed the other Matsuri line in 4 years.
>>25488257Have you seen that dude who wrote essays to explain her humor? Yeah
>>25488257To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Hyakumantenbara Salome. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of endoscopic medicine most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Salomes nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Hyakumantenbara Salome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Salomes existential catchphrase "Desu Wa" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Rikus genius unfolds itself on their computer monitors. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Hyakumantenbara Salome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
>>25487547>>25487707Pekora's shorts are garbage. This has been talked about in here since she started doing them.
>>25488153What are they discussing there?
>>25488208It's less impressive in context. Roboco will be back on bottom next month
>>25488420Uh oh>>25488412
>>25488401Sad that in reality both streams probably had over 80k for most of their duration. It's actually Mikos highest viewed video now.
>>25487686>What changes do you make to ensure that in 3 months time at least 4 members of EN can consistently get over 5k viewers for their streams>selenapex grind to pred, apex collabs with nijijp, vr stuff, drawing streams>pomu make her play some popular meme game like she did with mgrr, vr collabs with selen, superchat readings with a gimmick>ennafull on karaoke mode, no more games, make her do irl stuff like that puzzle stream or cooking>petrajp pandering to the max, collabs with nijijp without their povthis should get them over 5000 ccv for a month
>>25488426Why don’t her manager suggest something to improve it? I thought PekoMari share the same manager? Yet the sheer differences in their short number are mind googling
>>25488426Does Pekora even actually do them herself?
>pekora short has 100k view>only 11k like>salome short has 200k>over 40k likes
>>25488211oh, live ones seem to work, but VODs are apparently fucked.
>>25488257Here is one of the essays >>25488412 as mentioned.>>25198108
>>25488170Hey anon, can you translate specifically these ones then? I'm curious as to what the left and right says.
Kek Nina has succesfully leeched her way into getting clicks from the Luxiem fujos/yumejos.And as expected, zero overlap with the other NijiEN girls.
>>25488478Probably noWhoever does it probably do EN Tik tok and EN shorts too. And Pekora herself probably doesn’t care enough to learn how to improve it. She doesn’t even care enough to tweet everyday lol
>>25488420I’m so glad someone finally made the rick and morty meme. That was the first thing I thought of when those JP posters started talking about her here
>>25488533kek. This does give some fascinating insight
>>25488468is selen good enough for that?
>>25488494
>Ike freefalling in views because Vox bailed on him to nap for his "endurance to 800k stream"Jesus christ where are Ike's fans
More clip numbers here. I had to fix the code since doing half-half on holodex and youtube turned out to be a bad idea. Excluded a lot of clips, so I decided to do a blanket overhaul to get the numbers. This ups the clip number to 381k.A few changes to note: I am just looking at the description for reference. If they have a link to X's channel or X's video, they get a portion of that clip's views. This however will count clips with no sources (such as original animations, and reuploaded karaoke covers) that link the talents.1 Gawr Gura 8503123582 Usada Pekora 7011237373 Houshou Marine 5709682184 Inugami Korone 5326824475 Sakura Miko 4730904116 Kuzuha 4680490467 Oozora Subaru 4600865718 Shirogane Noel 3987551249 Uruha Rushia 37289080610 Kanae 32166234711 Minato Aqua 30344622512 Watson Amelia 28109166913 Amane Kanata 27582749614 Shirakami Fubuki 27257755915 Mori Calliope 26930690416 Ninomae Ina’nis 26500251017 Natsuiro Matsuri 25597707618 Takanashi Kiara 25342560019 Nijisanji 24138159320 Kiryu Coco 23863384821 Nekomata Okayu 23768101222 Hoshimachi Suisei 23565290623 Tsunomaki Watame 22997216924 Shishiro Botan 22370012225 Momosuzu Nene 21777960726 Yukihana Lamy 21408104127 Hololive VTuber Group 18015634428 Ouro Kronii 17152947829 Nakiri Ayame 17030185130 Murasaki Shion 16899665531 Ookami Mio 16688961932 Sasaki Saku 15908131733 Shiranui Flare 15695638734 Omaru Polka 15520963835 Akai Haato 15504412036 Tokoyami Towa 14921589437 Kureiji Ollie 14642546938 Nanashi Mumei 13394558439 Hoshikawa Sara 13112344640 Moona Hoshinova 12669204741 Yuuki Chihiro 12654544142 Yashiro Kizuku 12641247643 Hakos Baelz 12536682344 La+ Darknesss 12197129445 Himemori Luna 11837108746 Ange Katrina 11652186047 Sakamata Chloe 11361190048 Kenmochi Toya 10547506549 Shiina Yuika 10284796050 Lize Helesta 10273457339 HL and 11 NJ in the top 50. Kanae and Kuzuha both sneak into the top 10 (a surprise to me).Gura has a lot of views as expected, but compared to just from Holodex, there is a lot of bias for Hololive there (no surprises). Comparatively, NJ's official channel (UCX7YkU9nEeaoZbkVLVajcMg) has more clippage than Hololive's (UCJFZiqLMntJufDCHc6bQixg). You can make your own judgements on if this is due to sampling bias or behaviours with mentioning and linking within descriptions, or if it is actually representative of interest levels.Holomyth are all in the top 20[1,12,15,16,18], since they are the best gen(tm). Then there's gen3[2,3,8,9,33], with elf-san being the outlier.I'm going to constantly try to add more clips to get more numbers, as I may still miss some dedicated clippers, or new clippers that arrive. Diving into language recognition is possible but not priority. I may do the daily difference again if I don't find more bugs.And for all you interested, here's Salome's numbers:111 Hyakumantenbara Salome 21860163
>>25488533>Niji ID ahead of Niji JPyou can’t make this shit up
>>25488533And Niji ID probably mostly Mika.She gets more viewers than 1/4th of the other members too.
>>25488475I don't know if they share a manager and they might have suggested things already. Whether or not Pekora cares enough to improve them is another issue entirely.
What da Salome doing today? Can it push her over 100k?
>>25488501The left side is total unique users (The top number) and the bottom being the members who chatted. The right is total messages and which of those messages did members account for
>>25488484Matome made fun of Pekora's and Kuzuha's shorts views way before Salome debut.Ofc they compared them to Marine's.
>>25488568i think she is but that doesnt matter, what matters is the journey and ''GRIND TO PRED'' in the stream title
>>25488628Taking day off, she did release a Eating Borgar short though that has already racked up 200k+ views in less than 2 hours.
>>25488579Hololive main channel doesn't get clipped because it already produces translated bite sized content. You can't clip Hologra and almost all the skits are fully translated with subs and are between 10-20 minutes in length so there's nothing really there for clippers to actually grab. I'm not sure about the Niji main channel but I think a lot more content gets shunted there, concerts and reveals for example where those things are usually on each individual Hololive members channel.
>>25488618Last I heard PekoMari share 1 manager now ever seen Pekora original manager retireI miss Pekora old manager, Pekora was so much more active under her
>>25488579>NJ's official channel has more clippage than Hololive'sThat's completely to be expected.There are a lot more streams and 10-20 min videos on the Niji channel which can be clipped, as opposed to the Holo one which mostly has shorts, which are already translated in several languages.
>>25486347>shorts>processingAll shorts have bloated views thanks to how it keeps looping and counting as views unless you scroll down. Even Watame gets a couple of 1M views in her shorts
>>25488638king and queen...
Gwelu gold or Matsuri gold?
>>25488638Hmm Kuzuha short also doing bad?
>>25488638I mean these retards are obviously shitposting and probably tourists. Don't expect them to know anything or care.
>>25488582purely from Mika lmao
>>25487797>comparing the novelty of first short to the latest short from someone who has been releasing shorts for a year
>>25488638didn't even know King was releasing shorts. Guess no one posted them here.
>>25488710She'd be more active lately if she wasn't destroying her voice. She might be on break now, but it wasn't the first time she had issues.
>>25486352You know I have been thinking, if Salome's debut is the one that make her viral, which makes people checks her out because obviously no one bother to watch new debut.What about people that have been watching her after the 2nd stream instead (the first bio stream)?
>>25488701>>25488579>Streams over 1 million views>Nijisanji Official - 29>Hololive Official - 12
>>25488634Thank you anon, please let me know if this is correct:Subaru / Peak CCV 22,766Left:4,052 Unique Chatters1,467 Members (36.2%)Right:40,516 Total messages23,819 From members (58.8&)Salome / Peak CCV 94,246Left:10,797 Unique Chatters0 MembersRight:54,920 Total messages0 From members
This is the types of 'Salome bait' time loop triggers>Tier 1: Salome is Botting and all her CCV is fake>Tier 2: Salome is Viral and her CCV is going to fall in short order>Tier 3: Salome is Just That Good, but she's extremely Japanese so you EoPs can't comprehend her appealAny more to add to the list?
>>25488743Salome gold
>>25488579Though I also have these numbers if you want recent and more relevant numbers.[Filtered by clips posted within a week of today]1 Hyakumantenbara Salome 72987642 Gawr Gura 39775173 Ouro Kronii 25872164 Kuzuha 18390625 Sakura Miko 18214346 Houshou Marine 16802487 Kanae 15178438 Kobo Kanaeru 12972519 Hakui Koyori 125798810 Akai Haato 118524911 Takane Lui 118503312 Yukihana Lamy 117674313 Hakos Baelz 114490314 La+ Darknesss 112767415 Hololive VTuber Group 106291116 Ninomae Ina’nis 103606917 Shirogane Noel 102333718 Kazama Iroha 100298019 Tsunomaki Watame 99907020 IRyS 91596721 Ceres Fauna 88965522 Sakamata Chloe 87707323 Oozora Subaru 83197324 Shirakami Fubuki 78625625 Takanashi Kiara 78057526 Yuzuki Choco 77829227 Ibrahim 77462028 Furen E Lustario 69252029 Himemori Luna 68198230 Amane Kanata 65602831 Watson Amelia 63130732 Mori Calliope 60758033 Nijisanji 57276834 Tokoyami Towa 54244635 Momosuzu Nene 52795536 Lauren Iroas 51051337 Fuwa Minato 50923938 Usada Pekora 49100039 Sorahoshi Kirame 46804640 Shiranui Flare 46217541 Shishiro Botan 45631842 Umise Yotsuha 45288243 Ayunda Risu 42135544 Vestia Zeta 42128945 Minato Aqua 41444846 Yuuki Chihiro 38178647 Mika Melatika 37726148 Ike Eveland 37293449 Nakiri Ayame 34153250 Kaela Kovalskia 320897As expected? Probably. 13/50 instead, with taking 3 in the top 10. Cumulatively HL/NJ are at 39M and 25M for the week.
>>25488729Watame's shorts are actually good.
>>25488853which one is the truth?
>>25487935>>25488022Is there a non compete clause for those who leave hololive for the first months?. Kson was also mainly streaming outside youtube during the first months
>>25487870so she's botted then
>>25488839Yep that’s correct
>>25488827I guess her game permission getting denied kind of kill her morale a little. Imagine not being able to play your favorite games because permission
>>25488786Well of fucking course I'm only gonna compare recent ones, who are you my fucking Boss/Professor? This ain't some thorough report where I'm gonna spend more than 5 minutes to appease you. If you want such a thorough comparison than you do the legwork faggot.
>>25488853>Salome is opening a new market
>>25488831Shameful they don't have more when they force talents to host a lot of their big stuff there rather than on their own channels.
>>25488831Is that it for Niji official? Don't they put every event on there?
>Gura's MC stream dataThat's a lot of nijiEN.
>>25488853Tier 4 : Holocoep
>>25488858Kronii definitely had one of the most clippable streams this week. She’s a monster at getting casual’s attention
>>25488829that's on the second column.> 8887 uniques for RE7 first stream> 1458 of them also chatted on the latest stream
>>25488903That's the new tier 3. We should probably go through all the posts we can find that match these descriptions and make it into a copypasta to crush Salome derails in their infancy, like the Nijicope one
>>25488166>>25488024and more importantly, we know where the fuck her audience comes from, same as we do for every other talent who's recieved absurd numbers from Kobo to Vox, but to date no nijinigger has yet to be able to explain where the fuck Salome's 90k come from other than from Riku's asshole
>>25488856Not streaming today.
>>25488746Just like Pekora, some poeple expect them to have the best skill of making shorts.They are streamers who can stream consistently, not clippers.
SALAMI GET
>>25488853there's far more coping going on against Salome than in favor of her.
>>25488921Keep in mind a lot of that NijiEN is likely from the females. If you check the girl streams today you’d see a decent chunk of Holo overlap too
>FGO new story doubled my 2view number and make her a 3view>For hoursUntapped market
>>25488948>vox chink fujos>kobo ID pedo>salome JP chad
>>25488839Personal experience:I've watched almost every Salome stream so far, but only commented 5 times.3 on the latest. when the fridge incident happened to let EoPs know what the fuck was going on.I also catch every Subaru evening stream and leave at least 2 kusa emotes, because funny shit happens and she knows to let a moment breathe.That's just 1 person's experience though.I will also be membering million drills when the time comes to occasionally drop grass.
>>25488948>kobo has id viewers>vox has fujo viewers>salome has japanese TV viewersis it really that hard to comprehend?
>>25488893If you don't see how retarded what you just did, I'll use other examples:>comparing debut stream to someone's latest stream>comparing first karaoke to someone who has done 100s of karaoke streams
>>25488853Salome is phenomenally popular and genuine social media sensation. You can acknowledge that while also being skeptical of her ability to pull over 90k viewers to each and every stream, a number that on most nights represents more than the total number of viewers watching all streams across Nijisanji combined.I don't see any need to deny that Salome is incredibly popular or take her record smashing CCV at face value.
>>25488986Some day you'll get bored of making both posts.
>>25489009>will also be membering million drills when the time comes to occasionally drop grass.Me too, can't wait!
>>25488873well it's definitely not number 3 because as we all know being good doesn't translate to good numbers
>salome has japanese TV viewersCare to share your evidence with the class then?
>>25488957Isn't last Salome's stream counted as today?
>>25489025>>25489004and as proof every single time they try to explain where Salome's audience comes from it's a different answer, because they don't know either and are just guessing.
>>25488909Events don't actually happen as often as this thread implies.Plus, a lot of those are edited premiered 20-40 min long.Holo official used to have way less btw, but HoloFest 3 really upped those numbers with 4 streams in a row.
>>25489025What the fuck is TV viewer?
>>25489069Yes, those pesky TV viewers that started watching her stream at 00:00 (they have to wake up the next day at 5-6am)
>>25489033That's the most reasonable take, but the shitposters are gonna jaut pretend they didn't see it nd keep on shitposting.
>>25489097THEY ARE JAPANESE. END
>>25488858>haachama #10 and #4 among the jp holoswhat the fuck happened? how did she skyrocket all of the sudden?was this prank week really that strong? and people haven't even clipped her totsu yet afaik
> At least 20% of King's audience is also watching SalomeKing...
>>25489102Boomers who watch television.
>>25488873Realist takes usually the correct one
so many streams overlapping festival...why?
>>25487917> Streamers like this don't just happen> what is Gura> what is Myth
>>25489119yeah and I'm the tooth fairy, tell me something you actually know
Salome Bait and Time Loops>Salome is Just That Good, you wouldn't understand EoP(>>25488420 >>25488569)>Salome is a meme just like Gura, it's not unprecedented that she could go viral>Salome is opening an entirely untapped market of anime watchers within Japan>Salome is BOTTED and FAKE Guys help me fill out the quotes.
>>25489121Interacting with other Holos is a buff. Interacting with Miko is especially good
>>25489102Pekora viewers.Old men that just turn on YT on their smart TV in the background in the evening while drinking, then go to bed when they get too tired.They can't even interact with chat, stream, likes.
>>25489151She probably didn't request it
>>25489153Vastly less popular than Salome. Stop using it as a comparison point, it proves you wrong. Gura could not gain or maintain the level of grip Salome has over her tourists.
>>25489025You're retarded thenKobo and Vox unironically penetrated new demographic, namely FB-dwelling indog teenagers and chink fujos. We know this to be true because we have multiple evidences such as weibo/indogs FB posts.Claiming salami has "japanese tv viewers", whatever the fuck that means, is so fucking retarded because there's zero, zilch, nada evidence even pointing in that general direction.Not on jp twitter, not on 5ch
Watame 10k get.
>>25489198Salome is just the next step mate.Gura's numbers were unheard of when she debuted as well, but no one accused chumbuds of botting back then.I guess Luxiem has forever poisoned those waters.
>>25489009Well I just found it fascinating that the activity from chatters of Subaru's 22k CCV are 10x active compared to Salome's 94k CCV which is 5x active
>>25489196>>25489127Ah yes, truly the target demographic for a new chuubaAlso, majority of Pekora viewers are kids you idiot
>>25489196Why would middle age men watch a girl 20 years older than them larping as a girl with unrealistic personality?
>>25489265Because I want to
>>25489223What next step?She doesn't do anything remotely different from other streamer, let alone chuubas
>>25489244Tourists rarely chat?
>>25489123Funny enough, Salome barely has any overlap at all on her channel. It's absolutely the lowest of all vtubers recorded and it's not even close. Just shows how many tourists are there, especially considering how what, 4 holos in the overlap chart? So it's really crazy.She shows up on a lot of niji overlaps though for their channels
>>25489265You may as well ask why half of fetishes are as popular as they are. People can't help what they get their dicks hard to.
>>25489303do you think this will result in a filtering through to the rest of the vtuber world?
>>25489153For the umpteenth time, please tell me from which demographic Salome viewers hail from?We know Gura's demographic at least a day after her debut
>>25489294Outside my Oshi I usually just watch other Vtubers on 2nd monitor while surfing porn or playing emulator gacha on main screen.
>>25489265>>25489265*younger than them
>>25489198Salome's number at the moment is insane, not even common for other JP streamers. But let's not pretend Gura's debut days number were nothing, especially in the western market. Her casual karaoke pulling 119k were unheard of back then.
>>25489303Koyori sneaking in there. She really is inclining isn't she, hard work pays off.
>>25489223Guras numbers were at the peak of Vtubing as an industry's growth period during Covid and were penetrating a new market besides. Salome is just a regular debut. How can you possibly rationalize her coming from nowhere to play RE 7 and getting 100k+ viewers, as somehow being equivalent to Senzawa reincarnating and then doing karaoke in a time where the hype was at its peak.
Nijibox 200k+. Nice
>>25489373the fact that salome can happen suggests Vtubing as a subculture might not be dead yet, or might not be in a perma-recline, like it seemed it was
>>25489220Actually damn, that's a lot of fucking streams on top of the Apex thing.7 10k + is unusualCanan and kson are also streaming and Sumire's on Twitch, so at leas 86>image resolution too largehere's the top
>>25489365Yup my guess for this is that Koyori runs adjacent to Mio and Miko, of which Miko appears on like every single fucking Holo overlap so far. So it seems expected right at this point in time since they're primarily the ones streaming while everyone is out. Especially if you look at Subaru's chart, it's clear that all the morning JP streamers overlap hard
>>25489401Or maybe she's just fucking botting. God, how can you be so gullible? Vtubing is at a dead fucking end all around. The market doesn't just expand like this overnight, that shit doesn't happen
Salome's audience is Nijisanji tourist who only turn in Niji events. She managed to convert them into regular watcher.
>>25489346already explained multiple times, do your archive reps or lurk more.> proofread her Youtube comments or twitter replies.
>>25489445It does when you do a shocking stunt such as show your medical photos of your internal guts on stream and you become the JP equivalent BuzzFeed story of the day for it.
>>25489445Luxiem MAY be botting, because their grapsh are fucked.Salome is botting because..? Her VOD numbers are fine, her audience and fan content matches a "new thing" buff, what exactly makes you say she's botted other than your retarded headcanon?
>>25489473That's quite a speculation. No way it can be proven that it's indeed Niji tourists and not just old nijifags and people who are new to vtubers.
Turns out the Flip shitposter is also the industry is dead doomposter all along. Who knew.
Gura is going to slip to Vox and will have no one but to blame but herself for allowing that green whore in the collab
>>25489430>Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/dokomitvthing is happening, expecting a 10k spike when holos show up.Also, Ironmouse is streaming early now, looks like her recent illness will be staying for a while because of her weak immune system.She's always tired now and keeps coughing occasionally.KR hours so the Lilpa girl is doubling Ironmouse in viewers.
>>25489438someone already did this bit like a couple of months ago and by that point koyori was already looking like a small version of miko in terms of audience overlap
>>25489365sharing an audience with Salome might not be a good thing, since Koyo is new enough that some of them could oshihen
>>25489445but it did happenthe evidence for bots being a large % of Salome's numbers is surprisingly weak given how large Salome's numbers are. I agree that we should weight the prior probability that it's botting fairly high given how large those numbers she's getting are, but all the subsequent evidence (chat volume and unique chatters for example) makes it seem fairly natural, not particularly out of the ordinary for the numbers she's getting. It's very strange but it appears to be a genuine phenomenon, at least until someone finds a smoking gun suggesting otherwise.
>>25489513Because her audience is new. There aren't any new audiences left to take, so it has to be bots since she's not stealing viewers from anyone. It's that simple, you either take viewers from someone else or you have no viewers or you're botting. New audiences are a cope for fools who think the industry can keep growing
NijiEN barely faster than us where did all their women go isnt it nijiEN hours right now