/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>96,226: Salome (Nijisanji)
>48,485: Fubuki (Hololive)
>34,298: Miko (Hololive)
>26,298: Lui (Hololive)
>22,157: Iroha (Hololive)
>20,919: Ayame (Hololive)
>18,125: Shion (Hololive)
>15,608: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,690: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,543: Noel (Hololive)
>13,893: Watame (Hololive)
>13,089: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,120: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,241: Towa (Hololive)
>11,120: Kobo (Hololive)
>10,525: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,287: Risu (Hololive)
>10,115: Kronii (Hololive)

>>25469032
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V

>PER COMPANY
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Salome
1x: Haachama

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
41x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal, Salome
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25468715
>50k
What? You can look at the delta column
She only got about 30% new chatter last stream, and it keep decreasing

current numbers

>>25469271
Sana announcement...

>>25469271
36k watching HoloEN

Sorry if this was posted before. Really good sales for Ui-mama, really bad for Deron.

>>25469397
Who the fuck is De'Ron

>>25469390
What was it?

>>25469390
Its killing me

>>25469390
still more than reimu's dramabait.

>>25469397
Crazy to think that less than a year ago Ui-mama had huge doubts on her ability to sing even one song on a Vtuber collab album.

kson seems to have completely dropped the ESLspeak eigo and has 5k on twitch (though shes leeching a real number god so prob not sustainable)

>>25469614
>real number god
who?

>>25469397
>really bad for Deron.
Is she reclining? How is she reclining?

>>25469534
we will never found out, she'll end the stream because she'll forgot about it

>>25469614
She's a react streamer now.

>>25469679
she's in perpetual recline forever.

>>25469390
Someday...

>>25469271
Poor Baelz, overlapping with Ame and especially, Gura, killed her number even with MC. Even taking overlaps into account, I thought she could still get around 6-7k, but she fell a little bit short

>>25469679
Music sales wise? Yeah. Her first album released 1.5 years ago sold around 3k first week.

>>25469813
This is the retarded path she chose

Looking at the curry meshi Holo award, I wonder what's the KPI target for Cover to reach on their Dr strange marvel 3D stream? 30k is a low bar. If they wanted, they could've asked all the Holos to clear their schedules for that time since the stream overlapped with another big Holo and Niji stream.

>>25469390
It's been 5 fucking hours for a fucking half assed cake, I want to kill myself. Besides the announcement is going to be some disappointing shit

Can somebody get this sheep to stop playing FNAF?

With the exception of WWE stream, Gura's VODs have been really underperforming compared to her previous numbers...

Sana doing announcement.

>>25469990
VODs cope...

>>25469961
Damn, that's one zigzaggy graph

>>25469990
The stanley parable part 2, ironically boosted her part 1 VOD views....

>>25469390
It's finally happening.

SANA 3D

>>25470044
Gura VOD Cope has evolved into Coping about VODs

>>25470044
No more cope, just a fact of obvious decline.

>>25470054
That's what happens when the max on the Y axis is 35 (viewers)

Sana announced that Pomu joined EN3 and already had her 3D ready.

>>25470119
She's a 20k streamer at least dude(assuming you buy into Cull Theory), stop coping

>>25469934 (me)
All that for this shit, I'm actually going to kill myself

>>25470177
Oh right, I remember hearing about that in Rosemi's member stream.

>>25470196
Why would you watch Sana for 5 hours?

>>25470196
You knew what it was going to be before the stream started. If you didn't want to watch her make a cake, why did you even tune in? You could have just looked at the VOD and clicked to the announcement part

>>25470253
"Rosemi's member stream" is the only good meme to come out of this god forsaken thread.

>>25470187
She's a barely 20k streamer nowadays, she struggled to get to 20k this stream and maintained for maybe 10-15 minutes.

So....why is everyone so angry all the time? Genuine question here.

uhh nijiEN has been getting garbage numbers these past few days, the boys can't even get 10k playing gigabuff games, are we reclining nijibros???

>>25470344
How did it even start? Most member stream info from this thread are all somehow accurate to some degree.

>>25470402
Seriously, stop coping. The numbers are good.

>>25469990
Dunno what's up with that, seems to have started at the FORTNITE stream. Funny to see her getting some of her best CCV in the past few months and the VODs suffering.

>>25470410
Because Nijisanji is botting their vtubers and making a mockery of the industry. People have every right to be angry about it. I'm livid.

>>25470410
Global economy is shit and only getting worse.

>>25470455
Numbers are declining and not getting any better. In a year Gura will be 15k streamer at best.

> /vt/ expecting graduation.
> instead it's cool stuff that makes the girl more attached to Hololive.

Every. Single. Time.

Salome just 2k subs away from becoming the most subscriber niji female

>>25470434
The chinks decided to push Salome instead.

>>25470410
People were waiting 5 hours for sana announcement, we already know that her birthday is June 10.
The good. Thing. She have orisong making ame the only one left

Can Sana's birthday stream get EN gold? She is the only HoloEN who hasn't earned at least 1 EN gold.

>>25470548
Anon, OTV is getting similar CCV

>>25470576
No one cares. We don't watch her streams

Stupid green whore Fauna actually ruining the collab and bringing it down. Everyone would probably have more viewers with her gone. Number posion bitch. Hope she fucks off.

So Sana gets an original song and it sounds like it's animated

>>25470433
Someone was claiming Rosemi said Lazulight 3D was already done "in a member stream".

>>25470604
Honestly? No.

>>25470612
Who? Idgaf, they are irrelevant.

>>25470563
Who he fuck expected the "decorating a cake to look like kirby" stream to end with a fucking graduation announcement? That'd be downright surreal.
>>25470604
Yes with a totsu. That shit boosted even Anya to 14k

>>25470604
Lol no, it's going to be 10-15k max and outside of EN members there's zero reasons for JPs to call

>>25470604
She's the HoloEN floor, so if anyone overlaps her they'll probably have more CCV

>>25470563
>Hololive graduation
With how willing Cover seems to be in letting the streamers work at their own pace and take as many breaks as they want. There is no reason to ever graduate unless you have ambitions as an indie vtuber like Coco.

>>25470196
Based Sana trolling hateviewers while making fans happy. I kneel.

>>25470666
yeah, just like nijiEN now.

>>25470638
But NijiFes3 is coming so it might be true

We can sort videos by most viewed with no limitation.
It used to only show 200-300 videos.

>>25470604
>>25470692
No one is going to overlap her and if Ina was any indication NO ONE WILL FUCKING STREAM.

>>25470687
Based non-stream watcher.
Sana has interacted with a ton of JP members, you retard.

>>25470692
>implying holooks will miss a totsu

>>25470410
what's it called when you take your personal issues out on others?

>>25470718
There's still JPs ahead of them and no clear date in sight for them to even go to japan, it's very unlikely they would waste resources on something so uncertain rather than just get the jp queue cleared.

>>25470701
I feel like Cover being too generous might kill any ambition in the company. If everyone gets a piece of a pie, who would try anymore?

Are these EDF collab streams sponsored? I know a few of them are going to be in the next game as DLC or something.

>>25470687
Time for koyori to leech free art from sana after getting Ina's okay to draw her cover art in the future

>>25470666
>Retard talking about numbers yet knowing nothing about streaming numbers
This thread in a nutshell.

Quick, someone grab the VoD views when the stream ends for a comparison point against her CCV

>>25470749
Go ahead and posts some timestamps of your favorite Sana moments in HoloJP.

>>25470604
Depends what else happens that day, but yes.

>>25470576
must feel great for all the other niji females. bet they're thrilled and excited

>>25470827
what a weird ass comment to make

>>25470841
These are the same shitposters that say 'don't have Gold? Worthless, should be graduated, anything less than 100k CCV is a failure' while not even high tier flesh streamers like xQc can hit 100k CCV

>>25470576
I don't give a shit about Salome. I've never watched her and I never will watch her. However, this makes me happy as fuck because I fucking despise Mito and that bitch deserves to be humiliated. My most hated vtuber ever by a long shot.

>>25470908
Why not, Salome is bringing more opportunities to Nijisanji

>>25470805
JP side has plenty of it in people like Suisei, Watame, etc. EN side is more of a problem since Mori seems to be the only one with big goals.

>>25470994
The opportunity to get lapped by someone who debuted last week.

>>25470811
No, EDF is really fun

>>25470994
yeah anon, that's totally how it works or how people feel about things
are you sure you're not on the spectrum

>>25470994
No she's not? She doesn't funnel her viewers to anyone, except a small percentage to hololive.

>>25470865
50k Views. Let's see how that changes as the video gets processed

Timeslots are a helluva thing. You can see Gura bleed viewers while Bae is still inclining. Ofc Gura loses like, thousands and Bae gains dozens, but its still visible

You did it Maru. You weren't last for once when I refreshed!

>>25471121
Both Gura and Ame have been pretty stable though?

>>25471144
11? Did she just start? I'm to scared to check myself

>>25470728
Oh, the limitation is 500 videos.

>>25471121
Gura lost 2k, from 20k to 18k, and now has gained around 1k back.

>>25470811
Mio just absolutely loves EDF

>>25471121
Gura hasn't really lost that much but it makes sense since Reddit Duck started her stream. Gura is undoubtably the EN with the most JP viewership so I imagine that drop is JOPs leaving to go watch Reddit Duck's garbage stream since Reddit Duck only does garbage streams.

>>25471234
The 1k gain can be explained by Kronii joining though.

>>25469813
Not surprising since Bae always gets murdered by overlaps

>>25471261
DEPRESSED CLOCK!!

>>25470701
There's plenty of reasons to graduate if you aren't getting the same opportunities that more mediocre and underperforming colleagues are getting just because they're ethnically Japanese.

>>25471226
Something happened to her. Not sure what, but it was something. For the past 10 minutes she only has a couple dozen viewers.

>>25471058
wrong, she did funneled to Niji JP
No need to lie like this

>>25471442
the only one lying here is you

>>25471442
We actually have the fucking charts idiot. She funneled barely 5k, but most of those went to holos

>>25471442
Why doesn't Salome advertise her coworkers on stream?

>>25469990
anecdotally, she doesn't seem to appear as much in my recommendations, has anyone noticed the same thing? maybe the algo is favoring her less.

>>25471685
That's not really something an ojou-sama would do.

>>25471400
Is she the 25th choice for people? Doesn't look like tech issues

>>25471685
That would kill her numbers

>>25471685
because no one does that. if retards from this thread had a brain, they would know analysis only should happen with collabs

>>25470865
>>25471115
So Sana's peak CCV was ~5.8k. and he has 50k VoD views, which implies she cycled through her viewers 10 times over for a 5 hour stream. Is there any way to use this to prove whether or not culling is real, and if so, to what extent? Where can I get more detailed data for this purpose?

>>25471722
Why not? Gura constantly advertises her coworkers in EN, ID and JP.

>>25471928
Which is why she's declining.

>>25471368
And how would you get those opportunities by graduating?
Also Irys is japanese anyway

>>25471863
VOD views take like minimum 8 hours to be processed fully.

>>25471981
No wonder Hololive has a Holobox and not Nijisanji. The wealth being shared around makes the foundation stronger.

>>25471400
Fucking hell, so this is the niji floor?

>>25472296
It takes 200 literal 2views to create 1 Salome.

>>25472296
The low-tier Niji just needs to latch onto Salome then, it's so easy.

>>25471466
>>25471583
look up the thread right after her stream ended, retards
I was the one who posted the graph

>>25472372
Reimu hire this man!

>>25472405
No you weren't.

>>25471685
She talked about the Apex tournament at the end here
Why do holofags keep lying?
https://youtu.be/9RUaxQXQzwc

>>25471685
>>25471722
>>25471771
>>25471841
literally advertised nijiapex last stream

>>25472405

>>25472521
>implying I would ever watch that fake cunt
Roru

>>25472470
this was the one I posted dumbshit

>>25472532
so that's a no?

>>25472584
>talk about things you know nothing about
do bronies really?

>>25472521
>#2 trending on gaming
wow

At this point, those who are ambitious and seeking success should go Nijisanji. Those who want to live an easy life should just go to Hololive.

>>25472743
>obvious bait from holofags again

jesus christ do you have nothing better to do than come up with stupid bullshit that's obviously not what you actually believe

>>25472610
Did you bother computing how much was funneled and deduced how much was left from salami's viewers? Tell us how much was funneled then faggot

>>25472673
Holobronies made up narratives about niji everyday is nothing new, they're that seething

>>25470626
We do, she got big number so yes we /#/ do watch her, you don't obviously because you're a fucking tourist

>>25472808
Isn't that the case? I mean, even if you're low tier, Cover will give you sponsorship deals so things are quite easy.
Nijisanji is pretty good at seeking ambitious individuals to gain success, like Salome and Mito. They change the industry.

>>25472894
for the love of god shut the fuck up, literally every single day you come to this thread to repeat the same fucking 10 phrases over and over again, kill yourself already you waste of oxygen, you sound like a fucking bot, fuck off

>>25472941
>we
i watch only translated clips while browsing the catalog, thank you very much

they don't enjoy minecraft

>>25472941
Wait, are you shitting on tourists? They are the ones boosting Salome though.

>>25472947
They also got reimu n ovid

>>25472878
tell me then? It's ended at 1am and we already know she doesn't overlap that much with other vtubers. And how much do Kuzuha usually funnel?
But that's not the point of the post, I was replying to this post >>25471058 to say that it's wrong

>>25473051
Their manager forced them to play block game, it's the only thing that can give them numbers

>>25472947
I never see Salami as an ambitious person and Mito isn't super ambitious

>>25472808
>At this point, those who are ambitious and seeking success should start their career with view farms and bots. number begets numbers. fake till you make it. desu wa~

they don't enjoy hololive

>>25473034
stop talking about things you know nothing about then

>>25473252
kill yourself

>>25468886
If you're Reimu how will you capitalize on this drama to incline?

do you guys enjoy having the same arguments over and over again

>>25473199
Based manager

>>25473328
>talk shit about things you know nothing about >>25471685
>tell me to kill myself
lol the irony

>>25473408
no, i'm actually fucking going insane, i fucking hate caring about this stupid bullshit and my stupid ass brain won't let me do anything else because i hate myself
fuck you

>>25473468
i'm not that anon, i recognized your posting style and told you to kill yourself because you've never contributed anything of value in your fucking life, nevermind in this fucking thread
end it already

>>25473182
>And how much do Kuzuha usually funnel?
Funny you mention that, this graph either indicates that Kuzuha did funnel some of his viewers or it's just the usual "tourists" coming in late

I really hope whichever suit signed off on debuting them during holofes commits sepukku

>Shilled Nijipex stream
>Anons still saying they have never watched her
>Makes up claims that she never shilled anything
This is the hill anons will die on.

when is the CR cup? i wanna see King gold instead of salome

>>25473669
cry some more about it
come on, go ahead

Wait so what was Sana announcement?

>>25473611
it's already going up before Kuzuha ended his stream no?
How about other Niji, Holo streams at the time? Were they going up too?

>>25473669
Nobody cares you shitty paid SaLAME shill. Fuck off.

>>25473626
So? Nijisanji got Salome already and HoloFes3 didn't help Hololive at all.

>>25473742
Birthday stream and also original song

The data does not lie, Salome does not funnel her tourists in significant numbers to anyone within her company or outside of it. It's been proven time and time again that her viewership is as shallow as it gets, that her numbers are as thin as paper, they're inconsistent and insubstantial. We've compared the numbers to other streamers, and they just don't make sense, not in any universe. The logic needed to rationalize how what she's achieved is possible at all is so outlandish, that posters defending her aren't even willing to claim it could ever happen again.

Not even in a completely different market that isn't the already oversaturated JP demographic. Would you believe it if a new EN Vtuber shows up tomorrow, eclipses Gura's 4 million subs in a week, and had higher CCV than Asmongold for every stream, without any of those viewers having watched Vtubers before or for that matter any other big non-Vtuber streamers?

Can you even comprehend how unrealistic that scenario is? It's exactly what fucking happened with Salome. Except worse, because Salome is a JP Corporate Vtubur, in a domestic market filled with hundreds of them. All her viewers are fucking ghosts that come and go with no fucking trace.

>>25473564
I'm not the guy you're replying to tho

>>25473808
shut up and commit seppuku manager-san

>>25473717
King isn't getting 90k anon.

>>25473835
I'm not saying it's bots, but it's bots

>>25473739
Nah, it's just funny seeing the blatant lies. Just as funny as the constant cope of bots, vods, art, news posts, etc.
Please do keep it up, anon, keep entertaining me. Ah don't forget the clown nose too.

>>25473408
This thread in one image

>>25473816
Nice. It seem she will stay
Honestly I usually wish she would graduate when she doesn’t stream. But whenever Sana stream I just change my mind and hope she stay
Such a ball of wholesomeness, Hololive need someone like her

>>25473669
She shilled the Nijipex by about past 1am, and by that point on she started hemorrhaging numbers and yes I was observing it live

>>25473816
>also original song
nice bait m8

>>25473915
I never understood why people think posting this image is some kind of mic drop

>>25473907
keep crying

>>25473979
She have a Tweet about it though?

>>25473808
>HoloFes3 didn't help Hololive at all.
How can you be so retarded?

>>25473947
>moving the goalpost again

>>25473717
The only thing that has a chance at beating Salome head to head are Miko's WWE streams.

>>25473944
I wish she would build herself up more so she could be the Ayame of EN at least. She needs to build up a loyal following before she can go long time spans without streaming and make people accept it

>>25473990
because it's true?

>>25474020
He's just going to respond with 'holocope' or something, why even bother?

>>25474155
So is nijisanji is using bots, posting the truth doesn't make it a mic drop

>>25474155
That whole thing was about monetizing F2P mobile games anon in case you didn't know.

>>25474096
I really like her streaming personality. Everything about her, the way she talk, get excited over everything, always smile, remind you of a childhood friend you might have forgotten
If she streamed I would already have her a sub

>>25474167
for some reason no matter how outlandish the post you make in numbers is you'll still get someone who'll answer it in earnest instead of just shitposting back

>>25474069
What goalpost? I was just telling you what was happening on those moments, why not stop being a faggot and add to the conversation.

>Fauna trying to boost Sana
What a nice girl.

NIJIBOTS
>NIJIBOTS
NIJIBOTS
>NIJIBOTS
NIJIBOTS
>NIJIBOTS
NIJIBOTS
>NIJIBOTS

>>25474208
what????
I'm just implying it's crazy how much people here care about some Jap corporations
Look like you're one of them

http://poal.me/1fn9va
veto

>>25474263
>Why doesn't Salome advertise her coworkers on stream?
that's the original question. So did she advertise her coworkers on stream?

>>25474332
And how the fuck is anyone supposed to gleam that from you dropping that one pic, you might as well have posted something like this for all the sense that made

>>25474332
Studies have proven that people generally become harder to convince the more you try to convince them to change their minds, no matter how good your arguments are. Shitposting is universally bad at convincing anyone of anything, so constant exposure to it naturally leads people to entrench themselves to absurd extremes.

You know. All this wouldn’t happen if we can actually just admit both company are still doing ok instead of trying to make them the polar opposite of each other

>1k people left Gura's stream after Fauna did
Haha what the fuck

>>25473792
Yes it was already going up but at a slower pace compared to her other streams, it just coincidentally hastened inclining when the Apex streams were ending, as you can see Reid ended earlier than that as well.
Can't really tell, though they mostly seem unaffected and some ended earlier which could have gone to Salome's? Hard to tell really

>>25474544
I guarantee you it's the retards who tjought the stream is over and it's not just Fauna leaving the collab.

>>25473626
if you actually opened the fucking stream you would know she has internet problems you fucking faggot

Salome and Mito both at 874k subs right now

>>25474505
But muh tribalism...

I respect IRyS for pulling onwards to be a successful steamer on charm and talent alone. Her model is a huge debuff and she's had it untouched for almost a year now. A ture statement to her raw talent and polished skills.

>>25474624
We don't watch streams here anon

>>25474505
I mean, when Hololive has 16 streams over 10k and Nijisanji has 2 streams over 10k it's uh, not quite the same anon.

bae raid to gura

>>25474403
(You) didn't pose any questions, and I was just affirming what you said that she did shill her coworkers but I just added some context on what was happening on the moment when it was happening
Stop being defensive faggot, your brain must be really smooth

>>25474729
Inb4
>'But that doesn't matter because Nijisanji has Gold and that's all that matters'

>>25474706
It's not that big of a debuff

>>25474729
Genuinely curious, how many nijis streamed yesterday total?

>>25474609
why did you post holo girls?
I doubt King would funnel anything to them. You should post other Nijis and she how many viewers did he funnel to them

>>25474791
Now you're just arguing in bad faith. You know the original purpose of the post right?

Bae raid

>>25474824
104 streams. Not sure on how many members since that's not easy to parse.

>>25474643
I mean it’s like Pepsi vs Coke
People pick one and try to make the other look like they gonna go bankrupt anytime soon but in reality both of them are probably doing as well as each other and no one going to go bankrupt

>>25474791
>>25473947
I'm the anon that said she shilled Nijipex. Whoever you're arguing with is just arguing in bad faith again.
Anyway thanks for the extra context, whens the usual time to shill though?

actual funnel from today
too bad no chat log for kuzuha
might still be processing
i'll try with yesterday's stream

>>25474908
Ended up boosting her CCV peak by a whopping..150 lol

Nijisanji all member in jp en kr cn id in

Salame
kuzuha
Kanae
Mito
Fuwa
Mysta
Vox
... ah... umm..

all that

Thank you for support them

>>25474487
We weren't always like that. Back in the /jp/ days we were criticized these Japanese companies a lot more, especially during the Holocaust.
Now I feel like /vt/ was even less critical towards Cover than r/Hololive when they announced HoloX 3D debut.

>>25474904
The original was mine here. >>25473669
Did she shill her coworkers? Yes.
Do people who don't watch her know that? No
Are people going to lie and say she didn't shill? Yes.

>>25474908
The redirect feature still seems so fucked. Bae had 4k people before raid and only 2k appeared for Gura

>>25475080
Because we support Hololive and are sick of the fraudulent games you Nijiniggers play.

>>25474842
I posted the Holo girls because anon >>25473792 inquired about the Holo girls.
But here are some of the top Nijis during that time period, Fuwa ended early(could've contributed to salami)? Mysta's that I don't know

>>25475079

7 ?? Wowwwww

I kind of curious what are the Niji threads like. They have so many livers but doesn’t seem to generate much discussion

>>25475024
unique chatter?
If she funneled them at the end of these streams then they would be less likely to chat.
Why don't you just use CCV?

>>25475080
Things were never the same after the one two punch of Aloe and the Holocaust

>>25475156
Maybe those 4k, has a portion of viewers already have Gura on the other tab

>>25475156
Not that unusual to have 50% instantly leave before the raid happens

>>25474505
Too late, that ship sailed two years ago

>>25475162
Are you actually retarded? Support Hololive? Support that IryS doesn't deserve her 3d or another outfit and 5 newbies do instead? Yeah real nice support there.

>>25475079
Hahaaa

Plz add albun

I like him

>>25475223
Unique chatters is actually a better metric because it's easier to compare across streams. There's a specific number of those who post in both streams, you can see the percentage and everything

>>25475197
They don’t generate discussion because they don’t all watch the same person. They have no one to talk to, so what the point in discussing streams

>>25475282
shut up nijinigger

>>25475169
I don't see any funnel except for 6 and 8(?) but these viewers didn't seem to stay for long

>>25475303
The most hilarious case is King
This thread is the only thread talking about him, we practically sucking his dick back in the day

>>25469679
Yeah. Despite being one of the older gen, part of the Niji early most famous sub-group (JK-gumi), full support from Lantis for her songs, constantly being featured in important events and main channel, she still couldnt escape the curse of beinf a female in nijisanji. And now with Salome came into the picture, all nijifemales fall further into irrelevancy since salome's general appeal is more in line with holo's. So her tourist will eventually overlap into hololive instead of nijigirls

>>25475293
yeah but it depends on the duration, the longer you stay the more likely you are to chat.
CCV is just more direct

>>25475282
Nice try Nijinigger. It isn't going to work. IRyS doesn't get a 3D or an outfit but she will get one eventually. Much better than you can say for Roa, Lulu, or Melissa. Know your place Nijinigger.

>>25475079

200+ dead
7 active

>>25475320
Can't believe a subreddit has more support for Hololive than supposed Hololive fans /here/.
Oh, wait, you're just a shitposter, continue to cry and froth at the mouth for whatever side you claim to be on.

>>25475080
The difference is nobody wanted to see holocaust, not even the worst of tribalfags.
This is basically anime horseracing and you need them on the track to have any fun.

>>25475357
ah, the good old days when nijisanji actually won their golds via good old sweat of the brow instead of via bots

>>25474953
>whens' the usual time to shill though?
I'm not a streamer anon so you can't really get anything substantial from me but from my opinion, shilling hard seems to have a negative effect maybe shilling them organically in between the stream like subtlety adding it into a topic briefly, would be a better approach

>>25475357
Most of his English speaking fans are women on Twitter. You won’t be seeing any actual Kuzuha fans on /vt/

>>25475398
The Chart also has CCV dude

>>25471368
Council didnt put any efforts or anything in that matter. They dont deserve shit.

>successful steamer
Can someone actually drop IRyS median for me. Because I'm pretty sure she used much bigger numbers.

>>25475024
>79
I don't know why but this is so hilarious
Whole 79 individual funnel!!! From fucking 90k!!!!!

>>25475460
Nijiseethe

>>25475544
She stopped doing buff content and started to stretch her superchat readings to 2-3 hours every stream

>>25475544
she only had big numbers for a couple months after debut, after that she dropped off into 5k where she is now.

>>25475529
nijiseethe

>>25470865
>>25471115
>>25471863
>>25472051
Why bother? Just use pick related as a sample.

>>25470994
no she's not, but she's bringing more eyes who the girls can leech off of.
every potential collab with her they have the potential to get at least one brand new fan.

Wake me up when Salome passes Mito

>>25475638

Whatttt

>>25475601
>>25475616
Now that I think od it didn't she use to have some JP fans roaming around her streams. What happened to them? Filtered by council collabs?

>>25475327
That's the thing, as what anon chat scraper has been doing, there really isn't that much overlap to any other chubas which just raises suspicions, from the graphs I've shown there are barely any indications that could've raised salami's overall average.
The viewer behaviour in salami's is oddly unique just to hers and only hers.

>>25475320
The holoX 3D announcement post was quite controversial to the point mod had to look the thread
Are these posters nijiniggers too?
https://www.reveddit.com/v/Hololive/comments/v3yv9n/iroha_3d_debut_on_the_9th_june/?ps_after=1654267009%2C1654270499&showFilters=true&localSort=controversiality1

>>25475405
Literally all of those got 3D before they graduated, retard.
And one of them is a retard who don't read contracts.

>>25475638
>14 minutes ago
Nah, show the Mori poll that's like a minute old and has more votes than CCV.

>>25475717
she still has them, they're just filtered like most of her viewers when she plays debuff games

>>25475638
>>25475781
I wish I screencapped Sana's poll in her stream, I have no idea if it's possible to find it now but I remembered it was 7k voters to her CCV of around 5k at 20 minutes in

>>25475699
she already did

>>25475718
So if we can't see King 30k funneling then how can we see Salome 90k funneling?

>>25475732
yes, we all know nijiniggers love to camp out in the holo sub to shill their nijis

>>25471368
Hololive is literally the dream company, your coworkers are either neutral or very loving, your JP senpais are very open to helping you out and management will let you be absolutely lazy if you give them a good enough reason.

>>25475717
Probably had more when she used to do archived karaokes every week

>>25472610
are you the guy who was calling natural inclines 10 mins after the stream starts as "funnels"?

>>25475732
Yes

>>25475718
This is one hell of understatement
I can't think of any streamer at all that has salami's number and consistency
You could argue that her debut number is buffed by fans anticipation and rrat about her being a practical joke by Kanae and Nijisanji official channel, but that doesn't explain her subsequent streams number

>>25475732
Go back, nigger

>My minecraft GF is the CEO of a company
SOMEONE FUND IT

>>25475806

Hey /#/ what's the most view vtuber/vsinger orisong?

>>25475916
>>25475818
>turn customers into fanatics

>>25475990
SSS maybe?

>>25476005
>you can avoid western politics but you can't avoid insulting China

>actual funnel from today
>too bad no chat log for kuzuha
>might still be processing
>i'll try with yesterday's stream
>>25475816
That is what anon >>25475024 chat scraper said, and their is historical data from salami, stop being a faggot

>>25476042
> insulting China
Bugmen unironically believe this

>>25475990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9eCSWEJYjk

>>25475990
Including Vsinger ?
Crazy Frog

>>25475933
she has been reclining though
Her last stream "only" peaked at 92k

>>25475732
>Are these posters Nijiniggers too
Yes, no doubt about it. Nijiniggers are known to be paid shills who send double agents into Hololive spaces to sow discord. There is literally a note blog about it.

>>25475990
assuming you don't include KAF then it's Kuzuha's king

>>25476159
King isn't his orisong

>>25476113
Vrabi says 94k.

>>25475954
Thank you. 20 minutes to eclipse her CCV.

Do Kuzuha viewers funnel to less popular Niji members? It seems that there's next to no unity in the JP branch. The company as a whole just seems really messy

>>25476159
>Orisong

>>25476113
That's like, what, 3-5% deviation at most? That's fucking nothing

>>25476059
Chat? I'm talking about CCV here
What's your point?
You are saying there's no funnel from Kuzuha 30k stream?

>>25476092
Damn who this and how did she got more view than Mori's Excuse me RIP?
>>25476159
King is a cover retardchama

Can anyone explain this image? Someone posted it but I don't understand what it's measuring. For example, uniques on debut is 5911 and for RE7 pt1 is 8887. The number comparing the two is 1426. How was this number derived?
As far as dsw is concerned, my opinion is, salarymen watch her with their wives after work, and older single women really like her even though they never watch any other vtubers.

>>25476277
it was a viral tiktok meme at one point

>>25476277
TikTok+ 8 month earlier

>>25476288
The image.

>>25476277
The song became a viral tiktok meme. Look at the other songs on her channel. They all have garbage viewership. Those views are not natural.

>>25476308
>>25476329
So like Lagtrain?

>>25476220
>>25476253
>>25476277
Oh, right, of course
yeah then it's Mori's RIP, assuming you don't include Kaf

>>25475933
>>25476113
Yes, she's only consistently more popular than xQc, and thus arguably one of the most popular streamers in the entire world

>>25475990
Does Pmaru count?

>>25476288
That doesn't explain her sudden popularity though
Even Coco gained her loyal salarymen fanbase in half year at least

>>25476349
post the one with the delta column
Looking at her Vods I would say she has A LOT of vod viewers

>>25475825

Yes , if you want money,family,no competition, go to hololive

https://youtu.be/-P6sDt0Yh30
Is Akirose going to upload her whole concert into song pieces each?

>>25476357
yes

How do we save him sisters?

>>25476372
>she's only consistently more popular than xQc
she's not, X streams like 10 hours a day and his peaks are ridiculously high

>>25476266
No one implied that faggot, it's been said that Kuzuha MIGHT have funneled some since coincidentally Salome's CCV rapidly inclined when the Apex streams started ending but it didn't put a dent on her overall average CCV.
It's just that chat scraper anon could not see that right now since he has yet to compare the chat from Kuzuha's yet.

>>25476349
>>25476288
It's the number of retained unique chatters. The basic assumption is that unique chatters are a reliable statistic of live viewers which can be used to track how many of those transfer across streams. So basically, from her debut to RE7, she only retained 1426, or like 10% of her whole viewerbase between two streams

>>25476432
Sorry, I got it from a bait thread, this is the only one aside from trajectory comparisons.
>>25476404
Single women communicate very quickly? And women are a hivemind, this is already well known.

>>25476474

Nijisanji if you lazy , you die

>>25476484
put him to stream on the timeslot he was streaming before

>>25476498
Anon, xqc has been streaming since 2016. He doesn't become an internet sensation overnight unlike salami

>>25476478
she's doing it because the VOD is privated in Japan

>>25476558
Here's the newest version of that graph

>>25476560
kataribe...

>>25476484
He needs to cater to Japs more because he's pretty boring and his avatar is Irys-tier bad. He got around 5k for his JP-only sushi tier list which is good enough for a Noctyx member

>>25476484
Don't worry anon, this man can somehow get 26k on a karaoke.

>>25476372
>>25476498
>>25476619
xqc streams 10+ hours a day and can peak at 100k+ consistently, however salome's explosion in popularity makes her the hot topic in Japan, making her popular there but Xqc is more popular everywhere else.

>>25476505
I think we're talking about 2 different thing. My first post here >>25473182
asked how much do Kuzuha usually funnel and it seems like his funneling can't even be visible. Isn't that kinda sus?

>>25476484
Go back to chink hour where they belong

>>25476543
So that means someone is gathering a list of all chatters and comparing the usernames between streams? Then, at least as far as chatters are concerned, her turnover is really high. However her chatters are only like 7-10% of her CCV, so the other 90% of people watching her could be the casual type, like single middle aged women and salarymen+wife households.

>>25476558
Yeah. nah
Just look at Luxiem number

>>25476484
have Nijisanji buy the chinese bots again

>>25474078
wonder if some of her audience will get captured by Migo, since a lot of them seem to be new to chuubas, and Migo WWE is a newfag friendly stream.

>>25476560
And if you work hard sometimes you die anyway. I feel bad for the girls. Pomu's doing really well though. Her and Selen were their best hires

ame became 3view

>>25476619
He said she's more popular than X though which is incorrect

>>25476620
Huh? Why? How?

>>25476386
That song came before her 3D avatar even she is a vtuber.

funnel from the gta v stream
about 6% total so what would that be 5-6k in ccv?

>>25476543
>>25476691
Also the casual type may have higher retention, for now at least. They will become fickle eventually.

>>25476404
Vtubers weren't nearly as popular when Coco was recruiting her paypigs

>>25471711
algo stopped favoring current vtuber content (because it's shite). I watched a few old clips and VODs and all the good old clips, VODs, animations, minecraft shit got thrown back at me by algod

>>25476692
Luxiem appeals to younger women than Salome?

>>25476659
Now compare his 2016, heck use his 2018's return to streaming numbers to salami's

>>25476691
That's obvious. From her debut to her last stream she churned all but 1% of her Unique Chatters, that's an absurd exchange rate.

>>25474505
you're watching the reason why the niji fanbase is hated play out live in front of your eyes.
The shitposters are there of course, but the actual nijifans are far more retarded than those could ever hope to be.

>>25476252
They can't, there are over 200 livers in the company and each group forming their own clique. Also due to their debut strategy Niji fanbase are way too scattered and most of them active on twitter to keep up with the corpo's activities. You can see how viral Niji on twitter but it doesn't transform to their live ccv.

>>25476815
Salome had like 70k people watched her debut X didn't have that

>>25475079
Ibrahim...

>>25475482
>>25475478
To be fair Kuzuha Twitter is funnier than any of his stream
https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1532676693189529602?s=20&t=5iBigFN4rMkCgKVVLOj74A
Look at top comment

>>25473515
Yeah I hate yourself too bro. It do be like that

>>25476808
You said "single women" anon

>>25476783
2020 was THE year for chuuba tho

>>25476619
How many flesh streamers have 20K+ ccv in their first year?
Corps offer their talents a huge step in the beginning.

>>25475544
Here you go
IRyS Median / Mean
Sep 2021: 8,424 / 8,175
Oct 2021: 9,158 / 10,165
Nov 2021: 9,461 / 10,892
Dec 2021: 6,670 / 7,671
Feb 2022: 6,695 / 7,027
March 2022: 8,457 / 9,425
April 2022: 7,480 / 8,497
May 2022: 7,468 / 7,819
Her numbers usually rise / drop based on amount of buff contents and her stream frequency. When she cannot stream frequently (recording, throat issue, etc.), and / or there were fewer buff contents, her numbers dropped.
And no, unlike what >>25475616 said, she has never dropped anywhere near 5k, not even while affected by CCVID. If you are talking about 5k, you might be thinking about chartanon's recent "true" averages, which hasn't been recorded before until this month, instead of the usual median / mean. That number is bound to be lower for IRyS since she tends to spend a lot of time (1-2hr) each stream to read SCs (outside of Karaoke or collabs).

>>25476815
? ? ? now I don't follow XqC
You're comparing an indie vs a corp backed streamer

>>25476660
>how much do Kuzuha usually funnel and it seems like his funneling can't even be visible. Isn't that kinda sus?
His CCV was mostly unaffected in their overlaps, it's just that for this day he ended his stream early and by some chance Salome's CCV rapidly inclined, it could indicate a funnel because of the rapid incline it could not be as well since the total average of Salome's was unaffected, what I'm saying is it's best to wait and see the result for what anon chat scraper has on Kuzuha's chat to Salome's to better compare.
And yes everything about Salome is suspicious.

>>25476902
original comment on this:
>>25476288
>older single women really like her even though they never watch any other vtubers.

>>25476935
He could be talking about average CCV instead of peak

>>25476740
probably the same problem Nene had during her live but it's only blocked in Japan which is weird

>>25476880
That's exactly what I said
Salome's sudden and explosive popularity is puzzling and a little bit suspicious

>>25476927
Brand recognition can only get you so far anon, and I'd argue Nijisanji as a brand is not as big as Hololive

>My 2view become 3view thanks to FGO
God bless

I really want to see Salome's demographics now.

>>25475080
Holocaust was a unity event but that only lasted as long as people didn't dig into who was responsible, which was the first two days.
That, Aloe, and every other attempted yab that came from outside was what absolutely shredded the reputation of nijifans on /jp/ and eventually here.

Why are we talking about xqc now?

I don't see why people are expecting much of a funnel when she doesn't even have "Nijisanji" anywhere in her name or bio

>>25476751
>6% total so what would that be 5-6k in ccv?
Which coincides to the amount of CCV which gets funneled to other chubas, this % seems to line up with that, so the remaining 95% of Salome's CCV are anomaly?

>>25477030
Because people are saying Salome is more popular than xqc

>>25476964
Why are you keep talking about that stream? That's not my question
My question is how much does Kuzuha usually funnel
30k and yet no visible funneling?

>>25476942
No, I'm comparing salami number to the entire streaming industry. Calling her an edge case is a hell of understatement

>>25477031
>She is actually yagoo's sleeper agent

>>25477030
Only streamer that is comparable to Salome number-wise

>>25477031
So her 90k audience just magically appears for her streams and then magically diasapears when her stream is done?

>>25475990
Carnivorous Plant

>>25477109
>get notification
>watch
>leave

how is this magic

>>25476988
That's not what my post was about. I simply said Salome isn't more popular than X
If you wanna talk about other things then don't reply to my post

>>25475405
> Lulu never got 3D
what? she has several 3D clips that are STILL around.

>>25477064
>My question is how much does Kuzuha usually funnel
>30k and yet no visible funneling?
Yes he funnels a large amount of his to others, he funnels % more than compared to Salome's which has mostly been 5% of her CCV

>>25477130
Faggot we've been trying to figure out which demographic is watching her and why they seem to be disconnected to chuuba sphere

>King's viewers just disappeared right after his stream ended >>25475169
Uh why arent we suspicious of Kuzuha again?

>>25476349
Isn't it strange to only have 6000 unique chatters for a 90,000 debut?

>>25476351
Still made better songs that any of holo ever release

>>25477031
Just like a lot of nijisanji members. Only overseas nijisanji seems to have some obligation to use the moniker, while jp is up to each.
thats why i said its time to wait for her to be more involved with nijisanji and other members than her first month.

>>25476560

Hololive has passive income system

You don't have to stream, but you can earn money from lot way , holo anime , music , product , voice pack , event ,

Sc is not main salary

Ayame , gura , shiob blablabla

>Open numbers thread
>CTRL+F "Ame"
>3 results. Nothing relevant
Good.
>Close thread

>>25477175
>Yes he funnels a large amount of his to others
then why can't I see anything here? >>25475169

>>25477194
The post you replied to doesn't show King's graph retard

>>25477213
Also ads and product/game collabs

>>25477194
Because he doesn't have 90k viewers, use your brain

>>25477246
are you retarded?

>>25477194
King's arguably has higher percentage of funnel than salami

>>25476751
Would you be able to do a similar chart for Miko's big WWE streams to see how the funnel percentages compare for a similar CCV game stream?

>>25475638
That one is bad. Take a look at this one though. 100% engagement in a minute, you tell me how culled she is

>>25477277
He had like what 30k viewers that's still a lot

>>25477199
Only if there are no normies and ultra-normies watching her. That's why I think boomer women are watching, it's the only explanation that makes sense.

>>25476722

Amen

>>25477351
her debut is really short, bellow 30 minutes

>>25475638
>>25477320
and here's the classic mori poll

>>25476973
Yeah, that's why I brought up chartanon's "true" average (as chartanon put it himself). Bringing true averages up doesn't make much sense, though, since that hasn't been recorded /here/ since forever (until this month) so I doubt that anon had any number except this month to make his comparison

>>25477063
>>25477084
>https://twitchtracker.com/xqc/streams/39461021832
>73k average for 22 hours stream
Unironically he is better than Salome unless she can reach that consistency

>>25475933
she's really entertaining, that's pretty much it.
The short stream duration also helps.
It also builds a habit for those tourists, they'll always tune it at around that time to watch her.
Moving to a different timeslot (likely to happen for collabs) will kill her CCV unless she does it 1 month from now by which time she would've converted all the casual fans to actual fans.

>>25477413
she will never, because Salome will never stream more than 1-2hours

>>25477307
yeah

>>25477399
Holo_Data has been recording Avg CCV forever

>>25477321
but not outside the realm of possibility, unlike Salome's constantly increasing and unnaturally stable 90k

>>25477434
I know, that's why it's funny to see people compare her with xqc

>>25477385
Did her pre-debut thumbnail have pictures of her insides on it? Then she could have been trending and people could have been anticipating it. Otherwise, yeah it's kinda suspicious for word to spread that quickly.

>>25477320
>>25477389
What is the assumed 'normal' rate of poll engagement? I saw somewhere that 50% Engagement in 10 minutes was really high, does this mean the cull is actually at least 50% of all CCV?

>>25476252
they have isolated audiences.
this is why Melissa was spammed to end her graduation because Salami delayed her stream to wait for her.

>>25477415
Extremely high VoD viewers as well
Her VoD views are really high for these 1h 90k CCV streams (compared to other JP vtubers)

>>25477434
Maybe one day, lol

>>25475638
>>25477389
>>25477320
Maybe youtube is taking a greater share of the ad money showing a lower CCV?

>>25477237
>>>25476964
Schrödinger's Salami CCV - CCV may be considered simultaneously both botted and organic

>>25477237
NTA, but am I blind or something, because I'm not seeing Kuzuha there?

>>25477415
>she's really entertaining
Is not a strong argument given that;
>She's newly debuted so people doesn't really connect with her yet
>Plenty of nijisanji livers that's as entertaining as her if not more
No other chuuba, nay, streamer has pattern like her and
>she's really entertaning
doesn't really offer adequate explanation

>>25477463
what are you talking about? We're talking about funneling here? Salome's funneling is visible, King had 1/3 of her view, his funneling should be visible too

>>25477561
CCV doesn't generate money, ad impressions do. There's no way Youtube would willfully lie about those