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Gema Gathika Edition

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to talk about Indonesian VTubers in general, but not just about their streams. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber scene, whether it be rumors, numbers, market analysis, debuts, graduations, etc.

>Any rules in /warkop/?
I'm not a janny/meido, but:
>We do not talk about /warkop/
>Jaga budi pekerti. Don't be a dumbfuck, a cunt, or both
>No excessive politics and SARA talks. This is a thread for VTubers, not /pol/. We don't want jannies to prune (aka. delete) our threads
>Avoid using Indonesian for your own safety. Jannies might give you warnings or even bans for posting in Indonesian
>Have fun!

>So, /#/ but ID?
You can talk about numbers here, but don't be excessive.

>Is this an Indonesian containment general?
This general aims to be a place where Indonesians could talk about Indonesian VTubers freely and (hopefully) politely.

Recent happenings:
>ID VTuber scene continues to incline
>Maha5 announced audition for Maha5 Gen 4. It seems that there will be one male and one female VTuber in Maha5 Gen 4
>Snowdrop revealed new costumes for their Gen 1 talents
>Mira Fridayanti from Virtunix announced indefinite hiatus
>There were attempts to suspend VTubers' YouTube channels by sending sensitive comments and donations. Notable ID victims include Kobo Kanaeru (TWICE), Mika Melatika, and Airani Iofifteen. Perpetrator still unknown, but no attacks have been reported as of late
>A bunch of kids under the name "VTerror" announced the disbanment of their group due to widespread scrutiny (and mockery). Mythia Batford replied "tolol" to their surrender email
>A month after her debut, Kobo Kanaeru continues to incline and recently reached 650k subscribers
>Debuts: Cecilia Lieberia and Elaine Celestia from Re:Memories Gen 3, countless indies
>Graduations: Tsuyu Hortenshia, AOI ID Gen 2, Chika Kameria (Virtunix)

Previous Thread: >>25305764

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OP here, please ignore schizos, tribalists, and dramafags. Here's Mythia replying "tolol" to some edgy bocils: https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1532361117301100544

A smaller happening, there's an Indonesian Apex custom, check it here: https://twitter.com/_inorinori/status/1531943974545797120

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Why did they flop?

>> No.25477347

>>25475924
why not

>> No.25477372

>>25475567
>Gema Gathika Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2BU5dg8k44
Listen to her song

>> No.25478412
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Last night I dreamed a vtuber concert. There was Andi, kururu, izuru, rikka and other male chuubas. There's a sexy barenaked fire mage chuuba that caught my attention. He sang post-hardcore and metalcore songs. he looked like katakuri from one piece and sounded like Anggie kobo from STDC. He breathed fire and went crazy on stage. When he performed debus I was like "wtf this is a concert". His well defined chest and abs are bloody and sweaty as fuck. He is so passionate about his performance it's overwhelming.
There was another sexy chuuba with white hair he looked like Henry Cavill/ the witcher's geralt. When he sing he sound like David draiman from Disturbed.
At the end I bought fire mage's raunchy merchs. I bought his man-tits mousepad.
Then I woke up, wondering why there isn't any metal chuuba in Indonesia

>> No.25478608

>>25478412
Is there any metal chuuba tho?

>> No.25478979

>>25478412
Nice dream. I had a dream where Mythia caressed my head gently. It's pure bliss.
>>25478608
There's Futakuchi Mana.

>> No.25479277

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan gods, i pray to thou. Please let this thread be free from any schizos.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

>> No.25479675

>There were attempts to suspend VTubers' YouTube channels by sending sensitive comments and donations.
This is not happening anymore right? I think everyones already know how easy it is to avoid it (just hide chat's avatar) so the bored Frog stop doing it. I was a little bit scared last night when Risu doesn't hide chat's avatar but looks like it's fine now.
Btw
>Perpetrator still unknown, but no attacks have been reported as of late
Pretty sure we already know that it's just some random bored Frog right?

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/warkop/ divegrass team wacanaposting anchor, i'm not the usual anon
>Interested in helping /warkop/ to join vtl3? Join /vt/league ruangguru and learn new things like tactics, modelling and many more!
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3
>Why did they flop? (NijiID flop posting)
>We holoID fans (Our Lord Soo Min Park of holoID)

Roster:
>Guess their religion (Tebak agama vtuber)
>Huhihuhihu (Epel)
>Adudu Iofifteeen
>Piggy bank thief (holoIDdorm)
>Harem Master (Andi Adinata)
>Hana was right (/vt/'s infamous e-girl bait)
>Gluk gluk water (Zen's head on horse body)
>Kobo Tempest
>Loli Miti
>Get Blocked (Ipochan)
>Ucagi (Nekoyama Sena)
>Odot (Miti's Pet)
>ANJG LU KANNA (Kanna Tamachi)
>Penghuni rumah nanas (Yume reference)
>Unitypusher (MuseID-Daem)
>Om2 Pos Ronda (Minerva Rosaline)
>Jangan Lemott (Chloe Pawapua)
>Maya Putri's Zombie
>Dolphino (Chloe reference)
>Si Otan (Treerat reference)
>Botak (Close the door, thread meme)

Possible musics:
>Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgICkQmRolA
>Goalhorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CMdzicvKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorcYTRWskQ
https://youtu.be/5iL2d-0CNPo
https://youtu.be/oFkSQPJeAQE
https://youtu.be/0PK79P8JDWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f8rC4cXKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpJaHut7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaW_bq6wxo&t=28s
https://youtu.be/BM6dXhJh8g4
>Victory Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce87eFO2XE4
>Chants
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Ahok Durjana https://youtu.be/H7tZzgyV3T4

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/warkop/ divegrass team wacanaposting anchor, i'm not the usual anon
>Interested in helping /warkop/ to join vtl3? Join /vt/league ruangguru and learn new things like tactics, modelling and many more!
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3

Roster
>Why did they flop? (NijiID flop posting)
>We holoID fans (Our Lord Soo Min Park of holoID)
>Guess their religion (Tebak agama vtuber)
>Huhihuhihu (Epel)
>Adudu Iofifteeen
>Piggy bank thief (holoIDdorm)
>Harem Master (Andi Adinata)
>Hana was right (/vt/'s infamous e-girl bait)
>Gluk gluk water (Zen's head on horse body)
>Kobo Tempest
>Loli Miti
>Get Blocked (Ipochan)
>Ucagi (Nekoyama Sena)
>Odot (Miti's Pet)
>ANJG LU KANNA (Kanna Tamachi)
>Penghuni rumah nanas (Yume reference)
>Unitypusher (MuseID-Daem)
>Om2 Pos Ronda (Minerva Rosaline)
>Jangan Lemott (Chloe Pawapua)
>Maya Putri's Zombie
>Dolphino (Chloe reference)
>Si Otan (Treerat reference)
>Botak (Close the door, thread meme)

Possible musics:
>Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgICkQmRolA
>Goalhorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CMdzicvKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorcYTRWskQ
https://youtu.be/5iL2d-0CNPo
https://youtu.be/oFkSQPJeAQE
https://youtu.be/0PK79P8JDWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f8rC4cXKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpJaHut7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaW_bq6wxo&t=28s
https://youtu.be/BM6dXhJh8g4
>Victory Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce87eFO2XE4
>Chants
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Ahok Durjana https://youtu.be/H7tZzgyV3T4

>> No.25480048

>>25479935
>>25479883
Don't forget this anon

Custom Ball
>Kobo Slime

>> No.25480291

>>25479935
I like this one more for Kobo Tempest chant, i can't find any clean version tho without any OOC part.
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ

Also i don't think we need 2 Chloe, maybe remove one (Dolphino?) and replace with something. Are the names must be in English or not? If not, then i reccomend "Lontenya Penilep Bansos". Just pick random Snowdrop whore and give her stupidly humongous badonkas.

We talk about Snowdrop much more here than Chloe.

>> No.25480794

>>25479675
>Risu doesn't hide chat's avatar
I keep hold my breath thinking this steam can be stopped anytime by Susan if those frog attack risu chanel, I'm so scared because risu channel already subscribed by frog bot ages ago, thankfully nothing happens last night

>> No.25480906

>>25479935
Ahok durjana is not a vtuber meme, better change it with moona coca cola cover https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8

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>Rant ahead.
It's ironic bros.
For years I've been dreaming of a vtuber from the ID scene to be on the same level as the JP and EN vtubers without the need to pander to them. For years I've been dreaming of an ID vtuber who can freely making local contents with local language without the need to worry about their survivability. For years I've been dreaming that someday an ID vtuber can prove that the ID scene is sustainable and worth to be pander to, with the amount of subscribers, viewers, and donations that can compete with EN and JP.
The day has come, we are entering a new era in the ID scene, but, I'm FUCKING BORED of watching vtubers now. I'm on that burnout phase where I feels like watching vtubers is a waste of time and I can get more fun watching a more quality entertainment like movies or tv shows. It's ironic bros.
I think I'm gonna take a break from watching vtubers until I found that sparks again. Please keep the thread running because I will still check it from time to time to find something interesting.

>> No.25481080

>>25475692
Kek, I stared to think the whole vterroris thing was staged to increase the popularity of upi vtuber circle

>> No.25481219

Moona's KSZK song is also a really good meme song and very relatable. Very fitting for chants too. So many people forget that this is her first OG song.
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q

>> No.25481246

>>25480957
>burnout phase
Me too Anon
You have to realize that you don't have to watch every single stream.
Just watch whatever you want to watch at the moment.
You don't need to feel like you are missing out. It's okay to be a threadwatcher too.
I used to feel like I'm not a real fan if I miss an info/drama or whatever. But I adopt IDGAF attitude nowadays.

>> No.25481247

>>25480906
it's to long, do you happen have a short version of this?
chant usually 10-30 sec long

>> No.25481280

>>25480957
Good luck anon. Hopefully when you come back we already have a lot of them.

>> No.25481338

>>25480794
Looks like the frog ojisan from /ehe/ already teach them some good lesson.

>> No.25481599

>>25480957
Well that's nobody's fault, have fun man

>> No.25483008

>>25481080
Funny rrat, but there should've been more "victims" other than Mythia and Luthfi. Only both of them ever revealed VTerror's email publicly.

>> No.25483306

>>25483008
The only chuubas they know is Miti, Luthfi, and holoID (mostly Kobo) anon. Well, maybe Mine too. They are the only chuubas that are relevant in normies weeb circle so they only attacks them.

>> No.25483380

>>25483306
nta, but please read it slowly anon.....

>> No.25483635

>>25483380
Ok i'm dumb, ignore that.

>> No.25484243

>>25483306
It seems that Mine wasn't attacked by VTerror. Mine's the kind of VTuber who will confront antis head-on, yet she's been silent (afaik) on VTerror.

>> No.25484459

>>25480957
I was just like you anon, but I'm getting that burnout at around ID2 debut and ID3 debut sparks my interest again

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alva is now a vtuber, now it seems gaptech id is joining too

>> No.25485181

>>25480957
I used to be like you until kobo and kaela debut, these day other than those 2 stream I only watch moona karaoke. I used to watch all 6 holoid religiously I even watch some nijis and indie but now I only have time and mood to watch kobo and kaela

>> No.25485257

>>25485062
>Gaptech ID
What the hell is that. I saw that channel in Kobo's livestream yesterday

>> No.25485258

>>25485062
Well, he was in Kobo's chat yesterday, so yeah he already done the obligatory "leech" properly kek.

>> No.25485359

>>25485257
It's a tech channel. I'm not a tech nerd, i know his channel from his collab with Aldo TLM back in the day and my impression of him was great from the podcast.

Altho from the teaser looks like they want to hire people instead? Maybe for marketing or something? Unless Subki wants to be hode kek.

>> No.25485530

>>25485181
Wtf anon, we're exactly the same. I only watch Kaela, Kobo, and Moona's karaoke too well, also the purple dragon sometimes but that's off topic. Used to watch many chuubas until the novelty worn out and only get back after ID3 debuts.

>> No.25485841

>>25485062
who is alva?

>> No.25486276

>>25485530
Kek I also watch one ex nijiid vtuber but I don't want to mention the name so I don't start tribal war also that particular vtuber is rarely stream so it doesn't count I guess

>> No.25486880

>>25485062
>>25485359
>Everyone and their grandma making vtuber groups
I thought local corpos are dead...
I hope vtubers and vsingers could revive rock music.
Fuckin Covid kill livestages.
Anything that isn't pop or dangdut are difficult to gain popularity, Indonesian music scene is fucking dead. Hip hop and EDM are doing alright, but not as hype as rich chigga days.
Well, Western rock scene is dead too other than Imagine Dragons I guess

>> No.25487096

Can vtubers be normalized in our everyday culture yet?

I feel like we had this opportunity back when mythia is trending, but her coom model and personality ruined it. Then the whole "vtuber toxic" thing isn't helping, and the final straw is Ollie's stupid face reveal accident. Back then i really think HoloID is no more and completely irrelevant, just like NijiID. But ID3 happened. It's a fucking miracle that they're able to save the branch, specifically Kobo, and no i'm not overreacting. I thought HoloID doesnt deserve to have new gens but turns out they're really good at their job.

Also do you guys prefer Mythia era or Kobo era?

>> No.25487115

>>25487096
>Mythia era
When was that happened?

>> No.25487144

>>25487115
November 2021 - Febuary 2022 imo

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For HoloID fans, have you prepare yourself mentally for Holostars En and the inevitable collab plus future cuckbaits on the catalogue?
/Stars/ seem positive about collab with HoloID but I know that some of you went apeshit toward 3views male like zen. With starsjp there's the language barrier that prevent you from feeling cucked and left out, but starsEn might be a different experience all together.

>> No.25487400

anyone else watching Windah late night stream? he invite Minerva on discord voice chat to talk about vtuber and oh boy minerva drop "there are vtuber who already married" and Mitia on the chat "be careful Mine"

>> No.25487417

>>25487400
No
I don't watch windah

>> No.25487438

>>25487363
Holostars deserve some exposure so we dont mind

>> No.25487600

>>25487096
>Can vtubers be normalized in our everyday culture yet?
yes look at this channel the biggest vtuber in ID
https://youtube.com/c/ObitObit

>> No.25487724

>>25487400
Maybe you should post link and timestamp if you want to discuss it. Or maybe clip.

>> No.25487749

>>25486880
>I thought local corpos are dead...
We are entering the new era for ID vtubers anon. The old corpo are just a bunch of weebs circle who doesn't have much money and/or experience. We're now entering the new era where mainstream people start hearing about vtubers, si there are a bunch of fresh air.

I think Miti starts it all with her going viral. It lead to some big name youtubers/streamers like Upik and Brando to notice the vtubers scene. But the problem with Miti is she was still coomerbaiting hard at that time, so of course it's impossible to go full mainstream. It also still gives bad reputation to vtubers as only the place to ask for ara-ara.

Now the next evolution happens with Kobo. A bunch of factor (holofes, new holo debut, her being cute and funny, great banter, etc) lead to her getting viral. She getting shout out by Windah follows by her great PvZ streams make her into the mainstream.

Everyones, all kinds of people know Kobo now. From PR admin (Pubgm, valo), idols (a couple of JKT48 members), Esports team (Aura, Onic), tech channel (gaptech), even Master chef runner up kek. Tara arts and even Miawaug (17m subs) are interested now.

So yeah, let's see how this goes. Maybe we will see another big name buying agency and make it a proper PT like Upi buying Vortunix.

>>25487096
Kobo era, by far. It's actually getting properly into mainstream. Miti era was HORRIBLE since vtubing reputation was so bad.

Kobo actually make it into normal, sane, mainstream.

>> No.25487866

>>25487749
I would to see music labels interested in vtubing.
We missed a lot of talented singers (especially females) who are not into RL fame or pushed back by record labels because of "unappealing aesthetics"

>> No.25487928

>>25487096
>Also do you guys prefer Mythia era or Kobo era?
big name only came to miti's channel to ask for ara-ara back then
kobo (and today's miti) interact normally with big name.

so yeah, today is definitely the better era. you know vtubers are in good momentum in Indonesia when Tara + Andra (not pervert Gema) and fucking Miawaug (probably the most family friendly gaming youtubers and absolutely massive subs wise) are interested.

>> No.25487951

>>25479675
>Risu
Nah it was on Watame's chat yesterday if globul can be trusted since I was watching Kaela when that happened
>Bored frogs
Yeah iirc frog Ojisan said they are from Orleans

>> No.25488020

>>25487749
>>25487928
Where can i find clips of Miawaug and Tara being interested in vtubers? That's interesting to hear.

>> No.25488030

>>25484243
Her circle is extremely overprotective of her so if they attacked her, she should be alright

>> No.25488042

Come to think of it, HoloID songs are not promoted by YouTube music Indonesia.
At the very least I expect Kobo to be in there, but nah she's not there.

>> No.25488101

>>25487724
im retarded 02:48:00 when she join vc, also his circle "joking" about Windah creating his own Vtuber agency
https://youtu.be/nKqaok2mEZ8

>> No.25488201

>>25488020
For tara you can just google Tara arts vtubers, i think there's two clip. 1 about them knowing Miti while the other clip was Andra showing Tara some vtuber thing and saying "keren kan". They are interested and Tara ask if Andra want to be vtuber but they don't know how to di it.I don't watch them anymore so maybe they talk about it more.

For Regi (Miawaug) it was in one of The Jooomers stream on April. No clip i think so it's hard to search but basically they are talking a lot about vtubers. He even download vtube studio and try using it.

>> No.25488207

>>25487400
On his second channel? But it makes sense if there's at least one vtuber who's married because my oshi is married to me[/spoilerA]

>> No.25488218

>>25478412
who know in the future there will be music festival for vtuber
im really hoping this team will be in charge of it
https://youtube.com/c/soundsfromthecorner

>> No.25488307

>>25487400
mooner's friend is a married couple vtuber

>> No.25488368

>>25480957
>>25485181
How do I cope with the fear of burning out?
Will I betray my oshi if I don't watch all their streams?

>> No.25488382

>>25488101
Wkwk Cendy is always cringekino and I really miss Mine...

>> No.25488438

>>25488101
02:02:50 is where he spill that he know some of ID chuuba rm

>> No.25488486

>>25487749
>We're now entering the new era where mainstream people start hearing about vtubers, si there are a bunch of fresh air.
Sounds exciting at first but then if you lurked here these past months you'd heard of EN smol corpos imploding despite their larger reach potential, building a gud vtuber agency from scratch is harder than a lot would think, so hard that if let's say RANS has its own agency, it would be a much more uphill battle to make them relevant than bringing their FC to win Liga1

>> No.25488496

>>25487951
Well it might be different bots too. There are two type of bot i think, the old bot who just spam to promote scam website and won't get your channel banned and the new one (the frog group) who combine vulgar avatar + mass reported just to be an asshole.

I also saw a bot (or just troller pretending to be bot) on Kobo's valo stream yesterday but it's not the frog ones. I think they either got bored, getting spanked by frog ojisan, or got some pencerahan kek.

>>25488042
Can you tell me what do you mean by promoted? idk how youtube works

>>25487866
Yes! Maybe from some indie label first that are from youtube scene already.

>> No.25488522

Just as some anon mention above, even well known tech reviews tuber like Jagat Review now using Png avatar as their content too

So can we expect vtuber boom in ID scene from now on i wonder ?

https://youtu.be/sVDICcAj6ls

>> No.25488635

>>25488486
A lot of EN smol corpos is also build by weebs circle anon. That's why a lot of them are also struggling. Compare it to Japan where a bunch of actual professional corpo are behind the agency. You don't have to be really big like RANS (see Sony) either.

>> No.25488714

>>25488522
>Vtuber will be claimed by normalfags
Welp yet another comfy hobby will be turned into a soulless money-making machine...

>> No.25488731

>>25487363
As long there is no actual fags there, sure i will watch them. If they successfull enough maybe Cover will open HolostarsID here so i can see the moment ID Unicorns seething

>> No.25488774

>>25488635
The only professional EN small corpo that I know is phase connect since fishman seems to know how to do his shit

>> No.25488806

>>25488714
Anon, Vtuber always has been money making machine since 2019.

>> No.25488809

>>25488714
Well it is inevitable anon, everything that over popular will be claimed as a normie thing

>> No.25488811

>>25488522
It is definitely closer to how it is on JP now. It starting to get more normal.

>> No.25488824

>>25488731
>HolostarsID
>we got mas mas mobil lejen
>karaoke night always sing dangdutan
>sebat and gorengan in the middle of streaming
ughhhh sovlful we finally have the real brotuber experience

>> No.25488832

>>25488218
>Killing me inside - fake
Nice but yikes the mixing is kinda bad tho. His clean vocal is drowned. Wtf I won't pay for such a concert with a shitty audio
Get whoever hired by net tv
https://youtu.be/umcP0FzxZqo
Or this prod house (is it a prod house?)
https://youtu.be/zR33lS-p6VY

>> No.25488843

>>25488714
kek found the gatekeeper.

>> No.25488881

>>25488714
You can still find your small and niche chuubas anon to fulfill your hobby. Vtubers was already mainstream since forever in JP but that doesn't mean you can't get some niche chuubas.

>> No.25488941

>>25488824
I want an ID Rio or Fuma ngl

>> No.25488945

>>25488843
He's nolep and chuubas is his only life saviour plz andastaand.

>> No.25488947

>>25488824
bro id rather nongkrong with my actual IRL freinds than watching vtuber with cangkruk content like this, even if It's kinda appealing

>> No.25488990

>>25488947
You can still cangkruk with your friends while watching chuuba anon.

>> No.25489082

>>25488824
Stop if anon, it's too good to be true. In the reality most of them probably only flirt with their female watcher or doing fujobait. But seriously tho I hope we got male kobo who reject any gatchi and focus on gameplay, but then again as many people said in this board, vtuber buesness get most of their money from gatchi not just regular viewer like me. So they will lose a big sum of money if they decided become brotuber like kobo.

>> No.25489147

>>25489082
speaking of kobo, holy shit she's making money yesterday. people were legit betting lmao

>> No.25489155

>>25488843
>He thinks gatekeep is bad
>While he's posting on 4chin
Lurk for another one thousand years before you post again here
>>25488809
I know it always has been like that since the very beginning as four heavenly kings were corpo chuubas but as >>25488881 said I just hope not all of them will become soulless being who just want money without passion or whatever you call it

>> No.25489161

>>25489082
too bad Bobon dont want to embrace mas mas warkop persona, the guy already fit the criteria especially his coughing, dear lord it sound like my friend who sebat 2 pack of cigarettes everyday

>> No.25489173

>>25488368
It's a phase anon, it's inevitable. Just like you get bored with watching anime eventually. But this is not for everyone tho, I know some people who still watch jkt theater after 10 years, so maybe you could also watch your oshi for next 10 years

>> No.25489193

Why do people lust over mas mas here?
I didn't expect /warkop/ to be filled with gays

>> No.25489222

>>25489193
Anon, Mysta's fujos are mostly come from SEA...

>> No.25489247

>>25489193
This is the only place where they can be gays without fear being swatted by ormas pls andastand

>> No.25489254

>>25488941
>Fuma
Anonchama... ARE WE???

>> No.25489262

>>25489161
I guess he need money, he even start doing small fujo bait with EN member. Well yeah I guess that what you need to do to survive in this industry.

>> No.25489308

>>25489193
I want to watch mas mas doesn't mean I want to such his dick too. I just want to watch good entertainment that match with my taste despite with their gender.

>> No.25489318

>>25489155
Gaming was the biggest and the most milked entertainment sector rn and you still find a bunch of passion project, even more than before.

In fact, every entertainment industry still has tons of passion project with soul so it's fine anon. You might need to dig deeper tho to find chuba that fit your taste.

>> No.25489341

>>25487096
What broke Mythia is her menhera-ness. She yearned for a peaceful chat, but after her 2.0 outfit, people think of her as an object to lust over (and still is to this day!). It doesn't help that in early 2022, there's a fallout between Mythia and Akemi (no, it's not NTR actually), and people like CurutBengak leaving Mythia. Although, she has improved a lot. She rarely doomposts now. She seems content with her chat being more peaceful now. I can't choose between Mythia and Kobo, but I wonder what happen if Miti and Kobo inclined together.
t. a Simpthia and is it weird to criticize your oshi? I love Mythia, but I didn't agree with everything she did. But, despite Miti's flaws, I will still support her. Blah, ignore my blogpost.

>> No.25489353

>>25489318
Is there any ID chuuba who plays fighting games passionately?

>> No.25489398

>>25489193
>>25489247
the fuck how come the first thing that pop up in your brain is gay shit?

>> No.25489400

>>25489147
Yeah, watching kobo now feels similar like watching male fleshtuber, people come to watch her gameplay and commentary not GFE like what most vtuber do

>> No.25489507

>>25489398
Classic wibu nolep who watch vtuber for emotional support, just leave them be anon. Not everyone can be normal

>> No.25489570

>>25489082
>vtuber buesness get most of their money from gatchi
Kobo got a lot of money yesterday from her "betting" shenanigans. You can still get a lot of money by being a brotuber. Not to mention that donations is not the biggest source of income.

You dont have to be Rushia or Zeta. You can be like Pekora, Gura, and Kobo.

>> No.25489577

>>25488824
don't know about that anon... holoPro is a fuckin IDOL company you know

>> No.25489648

>>25489577
Idol doesn't have strict definition anon. Even 48 groups, THE IDOL group was breaking the norm of idols when they first started.

>> No.25489672

>>25489577
>IDOL
Wakeup anon this is not 2020, even cover already state that they didn't care with their talent personal relationships. Yagoo already give up the idol idea after he upload his video explaining hololive

>> No.25489714

>>25489577
>Matuli poured her piss on stream
>Despite almoat always sexually harassed by that stinky retard, Roberu keep collabing with Kagura Mea
>Erolive would still be a thing if not for Susan
Anon, your Holopro reps...

>> No.25489775

>>25489577
Anon, ID exist, but don't smoke or drink alcohol tho

>> No.25489776

>>25489082
>Brotuber
There's a lot of 3dpd male streamers for that
But you know what, like it or not, fujos gonna find the way.
>Milyhya sucking ice cream/dick
https://youtu.be/BSun0hn_3tA?t=160
>Garit sex noises
https://youtu.be/cdtgnwT3ACE?t=294
Yes anon I literally repeated these videos over and over again, there's NO WAY you can stop me from fantasizing and shipping your brotubers.
>flirt with their female watcher or doing fujobait.
But that's what cover wants from Holostars En and I doubt Holostars ID would be any different

>> No.25489846

>>25489193
>>25489341
>spoiler
Nah that's the healthy behaviour anon. Don't be like a certain part of Rushia/Mikeneko fandom, it's only make your oshis menhera-ness worse.

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25489853

>>25489776
I swear to God, several threads ago someone said that they will write Mily x Garit yaoi fanfics if they are VTubers.

>> No.25489862

>>25489648
>>25489672
>>25489714
yeah i'am clearly aware of that, but my point is things like smoking in stream like this anon >>25489775
says is big no, sorry for not making it clear at first

>> No.25489897

>>25489846 (me)
Woops accidentally quote >25489193 kek. Sorry.

>> No.25489902

>>25489341
context on CurutBengak? Who is he?

>> No.25489944

>>25489862
They already drink on stream anon, A LOT.

>> No.25490027

>>25489353
I think it's very rare even in EN / JP too? Everytime someone ask what kind of chuuba you want to see i always saw "fight game player (not smash)" a lot.

>> No.25490074

>>25489318
Yeah, I know but if vtubing truly becomes like the rest of the entertainment industry, there will only be competition all around and that's too tiresome for my old bones 2bh

>> No.25490127

>>25489944
yeah drink a lot of mineral water. we are still talking about holoID right?

>> No.25490164

>>25487363
with stars it's intra company collab so it's okay, but people like zen feels more like leech

>>25488368
i don't watch all my oshi stream because i don't like apex (my oshi is Towa btw) so i think it's okay, i bought her EP though so i think you can choose any way to support your oshi

>> No.25490193

>>25489776
are you the same fujo from /asean/ or there are other indon fujo in here

>> No.25490199

>>25490027
God i just want a Tekken or hell DBZF chuuba, even skullgirls will do

>> No.25490214

>>25489902
One if not the earliest Mythia clipper. Curut left Miti's Discord server, unsubscribed Miti, and didn't clip Miti anymore. Maybe he's just bored or tired of clipping, but it felt weird.
>>25489846
Thank you. Don't worry, I'm not insane yet.

>> No.25490246

>>25490193
Huh? Link it
that's not me.

>> No.25490270

>>25490127
No, we are talking about holoPro. holoID won't drink on stream because that's Yabe in ID but smoking is normal.

Just because they're "idol" doesnt mean cover will stop them from smoking just like how they let them drink.

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25490401

>>25490270

>> No.25490417

>>25490074
fair enough

>>25490199
this might be a great opportunity for aspiring chuubas. it's almost always the most requested so if you're great at fighting game maybe consider it.

>> No.25490426

>>25490401
DONTA

>> No.25490467

>>25489853
All me

>> No.25490525

>>25490199
you know what from all game genre in warnet fighting game is the only genre that dead in ID. even though back then we had Getamped

>> No.25490564
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25490564

>>25489776
holy boobas, an actual fujos

>> No.25490726

>>25485841
lucky noob from jagat review, a techtuber
jagat also had female vtuber too
https://youtu.be/sVDICcAj6ls

>> No.25490970

>>25490246
she is tripfag on /int/ goes by FujoAnon, she is drawfag too, maybe she is from your circle last time i ask she watch Mysta

>> No.25491045

>>25490970
>Mysta
I don't watch NijiEn and I can't draw kek

>> No.25491052

>>25490726
wait, i know him kek. yeah seems like techtuber are starting to use vtuber model too.

i wonder if we can have a weird dimension where Sony TLM haven't done face reveal yet and become a vtuber instead kek.

>> No.25491058
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25491058

OP here, did you know that /warkop/ has been a general for a month now? May /warkop/ flourish for years to come.

Roll call time, who's your favorite Indonesian VTuber (or oshi)?. For me, it's Miti.

>> No.25491149
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25491149

>>25491058
Picrel is my oshi based purple enjoyer, OP

>> No.25491179

>>25491058
>OP's Oshi is mythia
yes we know that already

>> No.25491205

>>25491058
Risu is my favorite ID vtuber, Kaela is getting close though

>> No.25491311

>>25491179
I don't want to be seen as a smug bastard, kek.

>> No.25491318

>>25491058
Kaela & Kobo. Why pick one when you can get both a hag and a kid? Complete experience.

>> No.25491474

>>25491205
>>25491318
>Her throat is hurt
>Keep eating gorengan
How can we save her?

>> No.25491491

>>25491318
but with Kaela you already got 3 generation though, Grandmaela, Kaela, and Ckia

>> No.25491658

>>25491058
happy monthversary /warkop/, merdeka!!!! also my oshis are from flopbranch, I can't pick one from them tho, they all flop in their own chaotic ways
>>25475924

>> No.25491681

>>25491058
>>25491311
But she's a certified whore OP, did you enjoy getting cucked on some particular stream?

>> No.25491711

>>25491474
i'm willing to bet that rice with tangerine, salted eggs and meat is the source of her sore throat

>> No.25491798

>>25491491
I don't want to gacha anon

>> No.25491930

>>25491681
>whore
You are late, anon, she toned down her lewdness from 2-3 months ago. I never really cared about getting cucked, too.

>> No.25492040

>>25491491
It's four tho since
>Grandmaela is boomer
>Kaela is millennial
>Skia is zoomer
>Ckia is whatever comes after zoomer (alpha i think? cmiiw)
>>25491798
There's no need to gacha since all of them (+Kopal and 4 more personalities she hasn't revealed) are come in one package
>>25491711
Nah she said she just did her singing reps to hard yesterday but that lunch... She's really one of a kind
>>25491930
>Replying to bait seriously
NGMI

>> No.25492167
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25492167

Lmao what a shameless leech, good thing only 5 retards saw it.

>> No.25492177

>>25491930
Anonchama...

>> No.25492239

>>25491149
Yeah purple chuubas is great. My favourite purple chuuba is not from ID tho so Kaela and Kobo it is.

>> No.25492309

>>25492040
>>25492177
Is it bait? Probably, but lots of people on /vt/ clings to outdated infos.
>>25491149
Moona is a cool VTuber, purple love

>> No.25492437

>>25492167
What the fuck is that font anon, your font literally hurts my eyes

>> No.25492564

>>25492040
>There's no need to gacha
We never know which one will appear anon, it's a gacha every stream. The only guaranteed one is Kaela.

>> No.25492693

>>25492564
you know ckia will do the teng teng teng thingy in pejuang senin though

>> No.25492719

>>25492437
i think the problem is more on the font's color

>> No.25492824

>>25492693
ah yeah forgot about that. still not enough for my shinigaki dose tho.

>> No.25492957

>>25492309
tako, kenzoku, dragoon, salomate or whatever Mikoto's fanbase is called?

>> No.25493225

>>25492693
>Ckia becomes a round girl
M-MUH DICK

>> No.25493283 [SPOILER] 

>>25492957
don't forget onigiriya

>> No.25493389

>>25492957
I assume you want to quote me anon? >>25492239

If yes, then Yeah i'm a dragoons, and no i'm not a selenposter kek

>> No.25493564

>>25493283
Damn I forgot about the lewd fatto catto... Idk but in my mind she's black since she's so reek of sex like Mio
>>25493389
Yes I want to quote you my apologies but selenposter who want to marry her is based tho. I kinda miss him since I always chuckle when I read his post

>> No.25494011

Who are we watching now, /warkop/?

>> No.25494063
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25494063

Cecil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RJd7e1NZ4A

>> No.25494138

>>25494011
Kobo/Ame/Iroha collab anon

Ame was once again confirmed from ID. After saying pantek she now understand Kobo speak in ID.

>> No.25494222

>>25494138
did Ame ever attend Reine's Indonesian learning stream?

>> No.25494369 [DELETED] 

>>25475567
pindah kesini aja gan
62ch.ipv6c.my.id/

>> No.25494459

>>25494138
im surprised when Kobo accidentally talk in Indonesia asking about Ame internet connection and Ame immediately understand, even Kobo herself surprised " anjir dia paham"

>> No.25494475

>>25494222
I don't think so, i don't watch Reine often tho so don't quote me on that.

>> No.25495604

>>25494369
NTA but why tho?

>> No.25495644

>>25495604
i think it's an ip grabber

>> No.25496131

>>25494138
>We will talk with our native languages only
LMFAO

>> No.25496535

>>25496131
i pity the clipper and translator

>> No.25496770

>>25496535
Imagine you need to understand bi, nihongo, english and espanol in order to clip it correctly

>> No.25497282

>>25496770
kobo also thrown in javanese. "ame ngomong opo iki"

>> No.25497289

>>25495644
Should I report?

>> No.25497972

>>25497289
it's indon's imageboard

>> No.25498367

>>25497972
huh, it's an actual indo imageboard. neat place, hope it won't be riddled with puny politics and SARA like fscchan

>> No.25498561

>>25475567
everybody talks leech but this tranny bitch is literally that. Even without the banci gimmick something is off about her. Just waiting for the drama to unfold.

>> No.25498700

>>25498561
elaborate. afaik, gema is not one, but two person

>> No.25498828

>>25498700
just my gut feeling. something about her just felt wrong, like there's a black cloud over her avatar.

when she did something wrong, please quote me to sell (you)s just like internet newspaper did stupid headline to sell click.

>> No.25499025

>>25498828
i'm not going to post /warkop/ screenshots on twitter or facebook jej

>> No.25499029

>get back too late from hanging out
>want something hot to eat while watching Kobo
>all the baksos,sotos, and cuankis are closed for some reason, most because its too late.
>buy some sketchy mie ayam instead and ask for extra kuah
>the noodles is uncooked and not fresh, and they slather it with sauce trying to cover the taste
what should I eat?

>> No.25499058

>>25499029
Always holomie

>> No.25499207

>>25499058
unironically I should've done this, but im in a good mood today and think i can treat myself some actual food tonight since its malming, only to get jinxed. Not in the mood for noodles anymore kek.

>> No.25499630

>>25499029
your place dont have angkringan? at this time ceker setan is the best midnight snack

>> No.25500089

>>25499207
good ol' endog ceplok

>> No.25500144

>>25499029
nasgorgil

>> No.25500308

>>25497972
Sounds like a place full of schizos

>> No.25500455

>>25499207
Well i usually order some random food online if it's late at night and basically berjudi hoping it's good kek. It's mostly meh to bad but sometimes you find some good one.

Altho after your mie ayam experience i don't think you want to do it kek.

>> No.25501270

did someone /here/ joining alter ego vtuber audition? are they hiring male too?

>> No.25501762

>>25501270
Wait alter ego as in an e-sport team? Why are the doing that?

>> No.25501891

>>25501762
Vtuber are trending right now in Indo just like when Myth debut, so probably just joining the hype maybe?

>> No.25502266

>>25501762
https://www*instagram*com/p/CeYScCDLzvr/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

>> No.25502638

I think what's really funny for me is i used to watch a lot of Indonesian 3dpd youtubers / streamers, before getting bored and switch to English youtubers/streamers and then to vtubers. And now almost all people that i use to watch either becomes vtubers or interested in it kek. Even Pokopow also has a model now.

I personally fine with it as long as they don't only do it for the hype (be like rpr, not pokimane). Idk why people hate on Hans The Jooomers while he's doing his "vtuber arc" properly. His podcast is perfect for newfag since he's also a newfag so he know what newfag want to know and can learn together.

If the podcast host already know the guest it's very often that the podcast becomes bias, thinking "this is good question" even tho nobody cares or not asking something that newfag wants to know since they assume everybody already know.

>> No.25502794

Anjir hari ini chil banget ini thread, beneran jadi warkop

>> No.25503408

>>25501270
>>25501762
>>25501891
ID market is inclining for real now, im so happy

>> No.25503663

>>25475567
sell me on this bitch, i only checked her out a bit because kobo mentioned her

>> No.25504538

>>25486880
>>25486880
>>25478412
>>25488832
speaking about metal chuuba. would you be okay with a metal chuuba who also did a fujobait? i mean think about vkei like GazettE.
Call me a faggot or smth but i'm actually a GazettE fan.
and even as their fan is still think that the hardcore metalhead will get filtered by the clean voice(it would go well with the fujo's though)

>> No.25504975

long-time vtuber fans or even vtuber themselves develops a pattern on what a vtuber is and how should they do this and that. great for assimilation, bad for innovation. they become so accustomed with the pattern that they tend to forget what's outside of the pattern.

a lot of people lauded kobo as an out-of-the-box vtuber. but, kobo is not breaking the boundaries, she's outside the boundaries from the beginning. this is why "normies" entering the vtubing community is great; it allows for fresh ideas to flow inside.

>> No.25505219

>>25504975
Check out the Hololive ID Fans fb group, ID purists are coming out from the jungle because Kobo says anjing and teach ame the word in the collab. I feel like killing myself while reading it.. Why are they so retarded..

>> No.25505358

>>25505219
they are no different than real-life conservatives. they cling to tradition, but it won't save them from change. also, do these fuckers forgot that reine taught coco "jancok"?

>> No.25505447
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25505447

I'm looking for ID comfy zatsudan oriented vtubers similar to Zea or Epel, any good recommendations? bonus point if the chat is not filled with halu degenerates or toxic bocils.

>> No.25505517

>>25505447
aurelia vizal

>> No.25505601

>>25505358
They seems to be afraid of JP fans , absolutely hilarious as they have no idea what Kobo is saying. I do agree though that her toxic phase can make some people uncomfortable , so let's hope it's just a phase. Beside that, their concerns are literal nothingburgers

>> No.25505641

>>25505219
Kek seriously? Where are they when risu teaching kobo about cum and other sexs joke?

>> No.25505687

>>25505447
Mythia. Yes, there's a bunch of bocil and ardent halus on her chat (including the mods), but it's still bearable. Try watching her Sahur Talk, like this one: https://youtu.be/pa6sHqVHZiU

>> No.25506248

>>25504538
I've seen a very metal dude on youtube having an onlyfans kek, so i think people would be fine.

Also speaking of clean vocals a lot of early Babymetal fans are hardcore metalhead from Sonisphere crowd, and they enjoy it despite the clean vocals (not counting the tsundere elitist who refure to give them a fair chance of course kek). Nowadays the fanbase is full of zoomer kpopers tho, ugh. Don't really cares tho since they're dead anyway, thanks Koba.

>> No.25506467

>>25502638
I've never watched Hans before and watching him for the first time while he interviewed Kson strikes me as he's the same kind of person as Bald Deddy, making contents based on gimmicks and leeching off trends and doesn't have an actual talent as an interviewer (pertanyaannya gak bermutu). That's why I don't like him.

>> No.25506648

>>25506248
Speaking of Babymetal are there any chuubas who done karaoke / cover of their song properly? I swear everytime it's always some retard who try so hard to sounds like 8 yo kids despite Su never sings like that. It's almost as retard as chuubas covering vocaloid song with robotic voice effect. Is it really that hard as a Babymetal fans to get atleast just one good cover?

>spoiler
yeah the fanbase is raided by kpopers now. So many zoomers, i hate the discord too now kek. It's really obvious when Moa starts overtaking Su as the most popular -metal

>> No.25507389

>>25505219
>>25505358
What tradition?? What Kobo did (swearing wise) is nothing new. Did they really complain that Kobo teach some bad words to FUCKING AME?? They are not purist, they just never watch hololive kek. Or maybe one of that type who try to be "cool" and watch EN despite bad language skills and always misunderstood them. Almost everytime i debate with selfhating "elitist" in English they always end up either repeating the same thing (bad reading and writing skills) or malding and start talking in retard English or just switch to Indo. If only they spend their time improving their language skills instead of gatekeeping and insulting others.

Also in terms of swearing before yesterday's Valorant Kobo is some of the most "jinak" in hololive including ID kek. She even apologize once after just saying anjay/anjir (i forgot which one) while Zeta just casually say shit and fuck all the time. She probably realize now that she doesn't need to be like that so she starts swearing a lot more.

>> No.25509091

>>25506467
I never watch botak, so i don't know how his content is. But just look at the title and thumbnail, Botak goes for maximum clickbait, searching the most conteoversial thing and playing all side.

Hans is a normal newfags that are interested into vtubers. What part of it are gimmicky and leeching? He's a 1 million subs youtuber Anon and 3-5k ccv streamers. If someone is leeching it's Lili, Andi, and Zen not Hans.

>doesn't have an actual talent as an interviewer (pertanyaannya gak bermutu).
I do agree that he's not a profesional interviewer, but basically what i already said in my last paragraph. He's a newfags trying to learn so other newfags can learn too. This is not a kuliah, what kind of mutu do you need? All of his question are something that a newfag are interested. Again, if you view it as a fans you might feel a bias, that "why tf he needs to ask that" but for newfags they might want to know. As long as he don't break any rules then what's the problem?

>> No.25509314

>>25509091 (me)
Also i'm getting sleepy so sorry for the really broken English kek. Good night everyone.

>> No.25509835

>>25509091
No one mentioned any problem. I just don't like him.
Just like not all people here likes Kobo or Moona, despite them being generally well-liked by most vtubers fandom.
He's just not my cup of tea, he reminded me of why I refused to watch fleshtubers and prefers vtubers in the first place (some vtubers feels like fleshtubers too, and I don't watch them).

>> No.25510570

>>25509835
Well you should clarified that first then kek. My post is for people that are hating and gatekeeping him for doing that, despite what he was doing is basically what all of us did when we first know about vtubers (well, we didn't make a podcast especially not with kson kek, but you get what i mean right).

If you just don't like him, then fair enough. Altho the "gimmicky/leeching" argument is still weird.

>> No.25510739

>>25504538
I was archive diving and saw this post. I want to say 100% yes but I know 0 indonesian and don't like the accent much. I really fucking want a vkeifag vtuber, an actual one

>> No.25513388

>>25505219
Lol, meanwhile outside of holo, our top tier collab moments featured Kanna being absolutely cursed to Lili back then, even nijifloppers has taught Selen anjg lu goblok

>> No.25514922

>>25505219
>>25505358
>>25505641
>>25507389
Well duh
Those so called "elitist" are either wibu rohis or people who pretend to be oldfags

>> No.25515383

>>25504538
Huh?
Clean vocals are staple of early metals.
When I say clean, obviously it's rock-style singing voices.

>> No.25516327

>>25502266
>Israel
Dayum they are pretty daring with their benefits, I hope they Will last long, I know alterly are under same ownership with evos and they are pretty ground breaking too, so I hope this could be the same

>> No.25519549

>>25504538
>would you be okay with a metal chuuba who also did a fujobait?
As long as it's subtle, not in your face kind of way

>> No.25519642

>>25514922
Nah, they are an actual oldfag elitist, I already check their profile and they already join that grup since 2020. I like how funny are their aggurment saying you can swear or teaching bad word to other member especially jp member because they will get mad. but they forgot coco teaching everyone motherfucker left and right even to the purest character like luna. Saying anjing and anjir is actually super polite compare to motherfucker and holyshit. I think kobo cuss vocabulary is not that bad since she haven't saying anything like ngentod or any sexual organ.

>> No.25519865

>>25519642
Just wait for a few hours and their account will be "mengenang" kek

>> No.25520769

>>25519642
Oldfag IOPs?
I remember some were like spamming waktu shalat before the cross branch holobox strategy is implemented with HoloEN debut. I swear some of them are leaving HoloID or something
People who seem out of touch with Hololive as a whole box and unfamiliar with HoloJP and HoloEN, even after 2 years +
I mean what other explanations caused this phenomenon?
If were you I wouldn't call them elitists, since that mean you recognize them as "elites" which is laughable.

>> No.25523258

Will there be any tournament like CR Cup being hold here? One thing that ID scene lacks now is the so little massive event like this that involved many big names chuubas or Fleshtubers. Muse ID kinda successful last time when they invited Windah and friends so i expect it will pops out more often

>> No.25523259

>>25519642
huh...

>> No.25523401

>>25523258
>little massive event
I want a concert with e-moona and goth Ayunda

>> No.25523560

>>25523401
Goodluck finding 3D operator and studio like what they have in JP or America in Indonesia. They have to fly to Singapore for that

>> No.25523601

>>25523258
Inori Custom will be held today. Check the first post on this thread.
>>25520769
They might be similar to EOPs who refused to watch anything but HoloEN. They are extremely out of touch with any other VTubers.

>> No.25524234

>>25520769
They probably the same guy who hate gura just because she's famous and still can't move on from among us drama even after 2 years. I remember some member in that group also used to hate ollie way before all the yab she made, if you wonder why? It's because ollie made a lot collab with en member and looks more close to them instead to her id senpai. Basically some oldfag in that group really love gen1 too much and hate everyone who more successful than geir oshi.

>> No.25524388

>>25524234
>>25520769 (me)
And yeah calling them elitists might be wrong, they more like FPI version of vtuber.

>> No.25524465

>>25524388
Wait wrong samefag tag kek
>>25524234 (me)
>>25520769

>> No.25524478

>>25524234
Please don't tell me that they hated Mythia because idk, she blocked Moona or copied Moona or something like that

>> No.25524702

>>25523601
Is there any corpo chuuba or big fleshtuber there?

>> No.25524754

>>25524478
Idk that grup rarely mentioning mythi, but probably yes

>> No.25524916

>>25520769
>>25524234
Some big name oldfag Minyak, judging from his tweetsdoesn't have a high opinion for ID3 and especially Kobo. I used to mingle around with that fag who love ID1 too much, but nowadays I only watch ID3

>> No.25525028

schizo thread

>> No.25525453

Is this thread gonna be up for an entire weekend or just one day?

>> No.25525563

>>25524916
Make me wonder is kevin stil watch holoid? Is he here? I never seeing him donating to gen3 member, he used to be the top donator for the entire branch what is his opinion to gen3

>> No.25525629

>>25525453
Well, if this thread dies, we will continue on Wednesday. If you all wanted a new thread for this Sunday, do tell me.

>> No.25525708

>>25524916
Nah, Minyak only don't like normie newfags that is usually seen in Kobo's fanbase. The tweets that he deleted later was adressing either imposter or newfag, they are not new. When Ollie is the hot shit they are also existed back then

>> No.25525770

>>25525563
He drew Iofi's recently so maybe he still watched them

>> No.25526358

>>25524916
Seems like ID3 have their own community buble, I remember someone post on /#/ how kobo stream affect kaela and zeta ccv but you can't barely see any difference to ID 1&2 ccv

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>>25523560
>finding 3D operator and studio
But Maha5 have 3d and it's pretty good too. And if we gonna talk about augmented reality we have done it too with Didi kempot hologram
I don't know if they have their own studio or renting it. Any Maha5 insiders or oldfags here?
>Andi's 3d debut
https://youtu.be/TKHHO74TAfQ?t=2855
I love this segment when Andi posed with fans-submitted photos it's hilarious, I wish more Holos/HoloID do this type of content with their home 3d

>> No.25526941

>>25513388
No one watches NijiID, that's why they can get away with it.

>> No.25527601

>>25524478
no. it's always the same case. success breeds jealousy. moona also got the same treatment during her incline arc.

>> No.25529239

>>25526358
Yea I saw that post. It seems like ID3 viewers in general doesn't watch other ID gen, maybe because they are a lot more IOP friendly and also more familiar with them.

>> No.25529245

>>25526695
Yeah, that's one thing I like about Maha5. They make something new and it's a breath of fresh air when I got tired of vtuber streamer

>> No.25529420

I think the funniest thing is from my experience browsing twitter/youtube/leddit the selfhating "elitist" is almost always people with low reading comprehension. Every debate, they always failed to respond properly and instead just repeating the same thing over and over again. Even the guy they debate with have to explain what he actually mean multiple times kek. And yes, they always end up having a mental breakdown and write some garbage gibberish showing up their true nature. You think watching gen1/gen2 can improve their English but nope, they only watch them so they can be "cool" and mock the IOP.

I'm just glad that the discussion can be more neutral now. It's so fucking bias before, and it's bias towards the side of retard people, very annoying.

>> No.25529635

>>25527601
>Moona also got the same treatment
when people were calling her a leech?

>> No.25529844

>>25529239
because they don't kick them out and the fanbase doesn't hate them just because they exist.

>> No.25530251

>>25525708
>only don't like normie newfags
That's literally the definition of elitist and gatekeeper anon.

>The tweets that he deleted later was adressing either imposter or newfag
I'm willing to bet it's an alt of that arasto guy kek (well known Minyak's haters). He already know he got haters, and he always ignore him. So why tweet that? Because this time it's convenient and can support his opinion.

The intention is obvious despite he clarified later, it's a passive agressive approach.

>> No.25530448

>>25529844
>>25529239
Do you guys notice zeta leaving her "perfect" pesona recently? She curse more and doesn't afraid roasting her chat (in friendly way) like what kobo did. Is it because kobo influencing her gen mate or because she watch windah clip that say she's too perfect for id audience?

>> No.25530750

>>25530448
Wdym? She's always like that

>> No.25530775

>>25530448
Where are these retards when zeta is being toxic? Why are they only coming after kobo? Hell even when risu teachs her about creampie, cumzone, etc, nobody in the ID community give a shit, sorry if it's out of topic but i feel like ranting today.

>> No.25530869

>>25530448
I don't watch Zeta now, but i remember in the first month she used to curse a lot (accidentally, yes) and then said "sorry" later. Just look at her early clips, so many "Zeta swear" clips. I think it's because they're new so either they don't know what their boundaries is or they are afraid that it's bad.

Kobo is also like that. She even apologize for saying "anjir" once. She used to overthink a lot (remember the bomb game collab with Ela?) despite none of her jokes are offside and even her senpais have said worse thing so many time. They're just getting more comfortable now.

>> No.25530926

>>25530775
They don't care if they're "toxic" or not, duh. You know what their agenda is.

>> No.25530944

>>25529420
>>25530251
I'm tired of fanbase drama.
Can you guys please stop it?
I swear you guys are making a disaster out of a mole hill.
I don't know where tf you have been since I rarely meet that type of "elitist" fans. I guess birds of the same feather are all flocking together, searching for drama and living for drama.

>> No.25531056

>>25530251
Eh, i am willing to give him a doubt. It's not like this never happened before

>> No.25531086

I shall call him "elitistschizo" since he couldn't stop yapping about elitists in ehe and warkop

>> No.25531117

>>25530944
We are ibu ibu komplek anon, we love to drama even though we never admit it, also this is the only place where I can be free to express my opinion towards ID fanbase in general

>> No.25531300

>>25530944
Feel free do bring other topics anon if you don't like the discussion. If you don't have anything to discuss then just do other thing, no ones forcing you.

>> No.25531352

>>25531117
Elitist this
Elitist that
Blah blah blah
But faggot rarely screenshot these elitist, and most the time I don't know what tf he's talking about. Bloody annoying

>> No.25531399

>>25530926
I actually dont know their agenda, what is it? Shitting on kobo so their 3view oshi could be relevant again?

>> No.25531446

You dont need any ss anon, they're literally /here/ just now getting triggered.

>> No.25531499

>>25531300
I have
Here discuss the 3d >>25526695

>> No.25531533

>>25531446
Kek

>> No.25531733

>>25531446
You can discuss Maha5 or the potential 3d in Indonesia vtubing scene with me Anon. Instead of whatever you're invested in at the moment.
Where's OP jesas I miss him

>> No.25531876

>>25531499
>>25531733
Nice, but I'm not a Maha5 fans and i dont have anything to add. So why are you asking me instead of talking to each other anon? You got a couple of friends too.

>> No.25531987

>>25531876
What about the potential 3d in Indonesia vtubing scene? I'm sure you have one or two word about it

>> No.25532046

>>25531733
About 3D, Mythia's donothon is to fund 3D equipments, and she needs 60 mil Rupiah for that. Also, ALTERLY is a small corpo with 3Ds, like this: https://youtu.be/4FYuUIDPNwU
I think 3D is neat, and I dream of watching an Indonesian 3D collab.

>> No.25532172

>>25531352
They literally everywhere anon, "wibu elites is someone who hate normiefag". It's not a new problem as well, you can find them is many Fandom like anime, Idol grup even kpop grup.

>> No.25532208

>>25477372
thanks anon, it's a brainworm for my mind

>> No.25532283

>>25531987
Yes, we already discuss this before. Of course the big dream is a big collab 3D concert, like a vtuber festival maybe. Someone also suggest a lomba 17an event before and that would be very kino, maybe MUSE ID could organize that.

As for the studio/tech/budget, idk anything about it and would love if someone could share it.

>> No.25532464

>>25532046
>to fund 3D equipments

Is it just the equipments or also the model? If it's just the equipment than that's very interesting, she might want to buy the same stuff CodeMiko use. I think it's around 50mil? With ongkir and tax i could see it cost 60Mil.

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>>25532464
Only the equipments.

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>don't know what an unarchived stream is
>don't know the copyright thing
>look down on Moona and compare her to Kobo despite don't understand the circumstance
Holy shit Kobafans are legit underage.

>> No.25532826

>>25475567
>We do not talk about /warkop/
just a reminder. now let's continue the topic

>> No.25532847

>>25532736
Remember that this equipment might be not on par with what big jap agencies uses.

>> No.25532990

>>25532046
>The first ever 3d vtuber concert in Indonesia
>December 2021
Bright future ahead of us. I still don't know what the heck prevented yagoo for this. is that you OP? Glad to have you back
>>25532172
Provide screenshots next time so others could chime in, so you wouldn't rant alone like a schizo
>>25532283
>MUSE ID could organize that.
Kek I think they're /here/, I mean I would love to watch it but dunno if it's profitable. It's not hurt to try. I will fully support it but it kind of depends on the genre, edm, hip hop and rock are my favorite genres. I'm not into jpop idol style (except babymetal) or whatever genre Gura's reflect and Kobo's mantra hujan are.
I feel like most chuubas songs are generic and cutesy. I'm open to recommendations, the general incline of ID vtubing mean more diverse chuubas with diverse taste of musics, but I don't know where to find them

>> No.25533002

>>25532736
Nevermind i missread it before kek, it's not what Miko use since it's MUCH MUCH more expensive.

What kind of 3d you can get with 60mil?

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>>25532736
>60m
>27m accumulated
>Indie
Mitifags, I kneel

>> No.25533534

>>25532990
>so you wouldn't rant alone like a schizo
A lot of people talk about this, maybe you should join an fb group called hololive id fans because if you backlog us you can see we talk about certain post that filled by certain groups of people in that fb group, it take less than 5 minutes to do your own reps rather than caling other people schizo just becuase you can't follow the topic.

>> No.25533544

>>25533160
Note that this doesn't include earlier donothon donations, so it could be more than 27 mil. She still has 42 hours left until the donothon ends.
>>25532990
Yes.
>>25533002
VRChat 3D?

>> No.25533579

>>25532784
Copyright is a "new" concept for many indonesians.
I think the most high profile case of copyright is akad by payung teduh recently brought the copyright awareness into the mainstream mind.
I still find people saying/recommending others to watch Vidio tv series on telegram, they don't know that it's illegal.

>> No.25533625

>>25533534
>Facebook
Go back

>> No.25533648

>>25533579
i still remember jefri nichol doxing someone for pirating his film. he's prolly one of the most unhinged indonesian celeb

>> No.25533659

>>25533534
>Creating Facebook just to talk about drama
Fuck off. If you want to discuss facebook only drama stay there. Unless they bring it to chat or twitter it's irrelevant

>> No.25533658

>>25532990
>Provide screenshots next time
Nta, but we don't need ss since they're /here/ kek >25532784

Imagine insulting someone just because they just learn about unarchive. I wonder if he knows everything since the first time he join the rabbit hole.

Also i think i know where his "comparing Kobo to Moona" came from. It's literally a chill disscussion on yt clip comments with people giving opinion of the strength and weakness of BOTH. Of course Moonafic would fet triggered since their "Dewi" is perfect in their eyes. Everyone have strong and weak point, except Moona kek. Moonafic are, indeed, a munafik

>I'm not into jpop idol style (except babymetal)
Why are you don't reply to me then anon kek >>25506648
I'm really desperate for answer kek.

>>25533160
Kobo and Miti is the perfect example of "dikit-dikit lama-lama jadi bukit".

>> No.25533814

>25533659
>25533625
>uhh 4chin is better than fb, I wont touch any social edia outside 4chin, I won't takes my meds and I won't touch the grass
And this is what we called internet elite kek

>> No.25533839

>>25533544
I thought VRchat only need a VR headset? Am i wrong? 60mil seems much more expensive to me but maybe I'm wrong.

>> No.25533858

>kikebookschizos are here
>25533658
>25533534
Ignore
Jokes aside, Harusnya ngobrol sama yang di fesbuk juga, biar nyambung dan se-frekuensi

>> No.25533939

>>25533858
I never go to kikebook anon. I literally said it's from yt clip. Learn how to read first please.

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Nta but I got this screenshot from last night clip and I'm gonna try to scour through Facebook to see if that anon is lying or nah and yeah I'm phoneposting right now

>> No.25534145

>>25533939
congrats you just prove our point! you're right we don't need screenshoot when they're literally /here/

ref >>25529420 (low reading comprehension)

>> No.25534155

>babymetal
>Muh hobby invaded by kpopfags
>"Why are you not replying to meh?"
>HoloID
>Muh elitists gatekeeping against normies

Get Well Soon anon.

>> No.25534314

>>25534155
I don't gatekeep them anon. I just don't like them and slowly moving out from the discord. That's the big difference between me and the elitist.

>> No.25534368

>>25533839
I'm unsure, really. Maybe she plans to have full-body tracking alongside usual VR?

>> No.25534395

>>25533648
>Jefri nichol
Kek is that a warning?
>>25534314
Grab a mirror

>> No.25534433

>>25534056
you don't have to search for it, here I'll help my fellow normal fans to clear his name
Fb/groups/669392270516284/permalink/1184724242316415/
why some people act like didn't join that group, i swear i saw so many 4ch lingo and reference being used in that group.

>> No.25534554

>>25534433
>>25534056
I wish you talk about that civil war of yours in Facebook and not here
Please be considerate of anons who are not in Facebook, thank you

>> No.25534676

Please refrain from talking about Facebook, especially if it's not that big of a problem. We know that a lot of containment breachers are from Facebook and Twitter. As long as no one spreads the existence of /warkop/, we will be fine.

>> No.25534930

>>25534554
This is not only a fb problem anon, you can see this cancer everywhere >>25534056 and even in /here/ >>25532784, I don't know you just dump or larping as one but you clearly need to take your meds.

Also you don't own this site, why would I need to follow your topic but other people can't have their own topic, just ignore it if you don't like it. Is it really that hard to do that?

>> No.25535153

>>25534368
Do you know anything about the stuff that Area15 use? Is it different than what Reine use?

60mil just seems like a crazy number to me just for equipment. I know in the end it depends on the model quality too but my ignorance of 3d stuff make me expect something big roru. Her 2d model is really great so i won't be surprised if she aims high.

>>25534395
I do have a mirror anon. Or are you a kpopers too? Don't worry anon i don't hate them. I just don't like their style of talking but i never insult them nor gatekeep them. You're fine anon.

Now why don't you talk about the 3d stuff with me anon instead of insulting other? Isn't that you guys want? Or am i right that you guys don't care about discussion and only want to gatekeep people?

>> No.25535157

>>25534930
kek that anon literally begging to get (you) in his other post, let's just leave it and move on to another topic shall we

>> No.25535278

>>25534676
Maybe OP should add this for increasing the quality of this thread
>No tribalfagging
It's just sad to see that HoloID fanbase is split like this. Some anons are really not mentally well and keep flaming stuffs for every little things other fans says on the internet.

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>>25534056
Found it I guess, but to be fair it's just two faggot arguing with each other
>>25535153
Speaking of 3D, I remember a few days back some anon discussing about the possibility of Cover opening a 3D studio in Indo, but some anon said that is impossible because Cover legally doesn't operate in Indonesia, is that true?

>> No.25535688

>>25535470
>Cover legally doesn't operate in Indonesia
I think not. Look at this: https://pdki-indonesia.dgip.go.id/detail/IPT2022065844?type=trademark&keyword=Ayunda+Risu

>> No.25535732

>>25525563
Well, i saw him on azura's stream or cia's stream sometimes so he definitely is still around. Don't know what he is doing these days tho

>> No.25535782

>>25535157
It's really funny to see some anons just have a civil discussions, then this guy angry because no one answering his post then start calling other people a schizo. Okay lest just moveon, the thread going to hit bump limit anyway.

>> No.25535846

>>25535470
>2people
Imagine having 2 people living rent free in your head so you rant on somewhere unrelated (/warkop/) to vent about these people that made you angry, and in the process make everyone else uncomfortable. Kayak orang yang punya masalah dirumah tapi marah marah dan baper gajenya ke orang kantor.

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>>25479935
>possible musics
>literally the national anthem as one of the goalhorns

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>>25535688
Ah yeah, we finally have evidence and not just speculation. Thanks anon.

>>25535470
Cover don't have an office in Indo, yes. But i don't understand why they can't open a studio here? Is it our law?

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>>25535470
>>25535688
Picrel. Don't know if that anon is right or wrong. What do you think? And also what is PDKI?

>> No.25536026

>>25533658
>"dikit-dikit lama-lama jadi bukit"
this only applies to Miti but Kobo? She already big from the start specially with Holo brand

>> No.25536157

>>25535153
Area15 at Holofes? That’s probably a studio. Reine just uses her valve index though.

>> No.25536221

>>25535966
iirc foreign companies must collaborate with local companies to open their business in Indo, that's why there is no Apple Store in Indo, but I might be wrong

>> No.25536326

>>25535278
We already prove that best way to have a good thread is by discussing some stuff. If you dont like the discussion then either bring up some new topic or just leave it if you're a lurker.

Talking about /warkop/ never helps and only make stupid useless debate. And yes i know this is dumb since I'm doing the same thing right now kek, yes I'm a hypocrite, but thread almost dead anyway so hopefully it'll help.

>> No.25536399

>>25525028
I hate to admit it, but you are right

>> No.25536467

>>25536326
Anon, I tried >>25526695

>> No.25536599

>>25536026
I mean in terms of donation. Idk if it has changed for Miti since i don't really watch her anymore but i remember her donation is just small amount but very often, same with Kobo. It's very rare for someone to drop big SB donation, but all the 1$ if you count them up it's more or less the same if not more after cut compare to her SC where a lot of people drops big donation.

>>25536157
No their home 3d stream. Are they just using normal tracking or using some VR like Reine?

If Reine only use Valve Index then it's quite good already. So 60mil might mean full body track, yeah, i'm exited.

>> No.25536607

>>25536467
Well you can feel free to ignore my suggestion, OP

>> No.25536753

>>25536467
Your effort worked. It's just there are still some people that are complaining about "ruining the thread" when they add nothing.

Anyway, i'm doing the same thing again now, so i'll stop talking about /warkop/.

>> No.25536880

>>25536221
We really need some lawfag anon here kek. So many interesting topic but nobody understand.

>> No.25536966

>>25536221
>Collaborate with local companies
So... Like china?

>> No.25537239

>>25536599
Home 3D is just the same application they use for their Live2D, I’m pretty sure.

>> No.25537291

>>25537239
I see, yeah looking forward to the future of 3d then.

>> No.25538103

>>25533534
>Facebook
GO FUCKING BACK

>> No.25538322

Are there any requirments you need to reach to open membership? Or is it just if the member ready or not?

>> No.25538512

>>25532990
well how about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSCSwTuZ7Xs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oqgZoVpJq4

>> No.25538814

>>25538512
nice song, thanks for the reccomendation
there's actually guite a lot of unique jpop song i think
the alternative idol scene is quite big
hopefully we can get some big chuuba from metal / alt-idol scene

>> No.25538976

>>25520769
Calling someone elitist doesn't imply that they're an elite. It's a derogatory term to mock someone who thinks that they're among the elite while actually they're far from it.

>> No.25539454

>>25538512
I'm the anon you are replied to. >>25538814 this anon isn't me
I'm asking for chuuba music tho, please read again

>> No.25539569

>>25538976
No more "elitist" topic
Please
I thought we already moving on

>> No.25539716

Now that the thread almost dead, i just want to said that where are all the "stop talking about X" faggots go? So many of them complaining, asking to talk about 3d instead or other topic and yet it's probably only me, OP, and at max 2 other anon who join the discussion. I even tried to bring my question about Babymetal cover again and the only respond was, again, some off topic response talking about me instead. I tried AGAIN for the last time asking about membership, no response. And yet someone mention about "elitist" once, and someone immediatetly response kek.

They don't care about it, they just feel called out by the discussion.

Anyway, see you on wednesday anon. I need to watch a stream.

>> No.25539839

>>25479935
Next thread anchor if you want to post it there
>Interested in helping /warkop/ to join vtl3? Join /vt/league ruangguru and learn new things like tactics, modelling and many more!
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3

Roster
>Why did they flop? (NijiID flop posting)
>We holoID fans (Our Lord Soo Min Park of holoID)
>Guess their religion (Tebak agama vtuber)
>Huhihuhihu (Epel)
>Adudu Iofifteeen
>Piggy bank thief (holoIDdorm)
>Harem Master (Andi Adinata)
>Hana was right (/vt/'s infamous e-girl bait)
>Gluk gluk water (Zen's head on horse body)
>Kobo Tempest
>Loli Miti
>Get Blocked (Ipochan)
>Ucagi (Nekoyama Sena)
>Odot (Miti's Pet)
>ANJG LU KANNA (Kanna Tamachi)
>Penghuni rumah nanas (Yume reference)
>Unitypusher (MuseID-Daem)
>Om2 Pos Ronda (Minerva Rosaline)
>Lontenya Penilep Bansos (Snowdrop & their corrupt owner)
>Maya Putri's Zombie
>Dolphino (Chloe reference)
>Si Otan (Treerat reference)
>Botak (Close the door, thread meme)

Our ball
>Kobo slime

Possible musics:
>Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgICkQmRolA
>Goalhorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4CMdzicvKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eorcYTRWskQ
https://youtu.be/5iL2d-0CNPo
https://youtu.be/oFkSQPJeAQE
https://youtu.be/0PK79P8JDWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f8rC4cXKqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpJaHut7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZaW_bq6wxo&t=28s
https://youtu.be/BM6dXhJh8g4
>Victory Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce87eFO2XE4
>Chants
>Jedag Jedug Vtuber Toxic https://youtu.be/cyMUSpLV32E
>Kobo Tempest introduction https://youtu.be/c5xn9idw4wg
>Early Moona songs
https://youtu.be/N_1xVr7wp6Q
https://youtu.be/4-wpqxD7Az8
>Kobo Edgelord
https://youtu.be/YDBLs_0SnPQ

>> No.25539855

>>25533658
retarded pleddit space

>> No.25539985

>>25539454
well you said JPOP idol are generic and cutesy, i just provide example that's not all are like that which maybe i should mention in my reply

for chuuba song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNQIltgLlgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8Za0T1T8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZA

not chuuba but i really recommend this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExgmZXYUh6M

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