/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

what tribalfagging, downplaying niji's success, ignoring niji's marketing, disregarding anycolor's business decisions does to you when it finally slams into your face
>"those ads in train stations don't mean anything!"

>>25443516
I'm not tribal fagging, I understand Nijisanji scope of business. But 90k ccv casual streams are something that broke all metrics by their own, and all standards.

>>25443516
Salome didn't have ads though. Neither are most of her viewers aware what a Nijisanji is.

>>25443083
>1. She debuted as a Nijisanji milestone celebration, not only gaining full focus from a whole big vtuber corpo but also vtubing in general
She said it was just a coincidence that the milestone happened shortly before her already planned debut.

>>25444662
and you believe her? really?

>>25444662
Look at her fucking name anon

>>25444810
to be fair, can't names be decided at the last second? or at least changed right before the affiliated company / fellow members start linking to her?

>>25443083
didnt read, ive watched her myself and its pretty boring

>>25443083
Didn't people think that she was a joke character at first so they subscribed like crazy just for the joke?

And she shot to popularity out of no where right before Nijisanji gets publicly listed.
It's not suspicious at all.

>>25443083
Who?

>>25446275
>Tell me you are a filthy EOP without telling me you are a filthy EOP
It would be if the only words you understood were "desu wa" anon.

>>25447306
No one believes you faggots when you make those claims, chances are that you're among the losers that migrated to Niji after you couldn't get enough EN streams from Hololive.

>>25443083
0. bots
The other points are irrelevant.

>>25447387
I don't watch ANY EN vtubers, they are all garbage tier compared to their JP counterparts. And yes I still watch Holo JP and some niji JP, and no I did not "migrate", there is nothing stopping you from watching whatever you feel like anon.

only streams for 1 hour

>>25447540
>thinks he can lie on the internet

>>25447601
Take your meds clipnigger, how can you say someone you don't understand is boring, what kind of retarded statement is that.

>>25447043
anyone who follows nijisanji knows management leaves almost everything up to the livers and fucks up constantly when they try to do something themselves, yet holobronies think tazumi is some kind of evil mastermind coordinating all of this behind the scenes

>>25447674
I didn't say that, I only pointed out a liar.

>>25443083
Are we not gonna mention her model? Because that model really makes my digg wanna fugg inside her thighs until her desuwa juice comes out.

>>25447719
>whatever he disagrees with is a lie
>forgets his own quotes

"didnt read, ive watched her myself and its pretty boring"

>imagine being a liar themselves

Meds asap, I shall baptize you Salome Schizo, since you are always around her thread doing the same shit over and over.

>>25447835
I've seen your type of shit writing before, I must have BTFO'd you countless times with your ridiculous schizo takes

I think there is a market demand for chubas that play hard into anime stereotypes and never break kayfabe, instead of just some girl with an anime avatar.

>>25447909
Right I personally thought the whole anime girls are real and they're streaming was the whole appeal of vtubing in general.

>>25447909
that's what I want. I miss kizuna ai

>>25443083
NIJICOEP LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>25449038
*bzzt* I posted *bzzt* this.

>>25449038
First line:
>NIJICOEP LIST
Too much text, man this is sad, this is probably one of the saddest things i've seen in the internet, i only feel pity for you, it's not even worth the effort you played yourself

>
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/22828612/#q22831703
reminder that holobotters botted millie to try to disregard luxiem viewers and also try to get her banned. They're vtuber tourist scum bitches

>>25443083
Bruh, it's been like 2 weeks and she's almost reached 1 mil, and it's during an era where vtubers are a dime-a-dozen, and she's JP only.

You have to give her some credit, it's not like oujo stereotype hasn't been done already. Holos like Haachama do it all the time. Hell, her oujo laugh is better than Salome's. When it comes down to it, she's entertaining, easy to watch and has a top tier design that perfectly matches her character.

>>25450666
I understand that you're such a prevalent schizo that you think that you represent thousands of people but that's just one guy.

>>25449038
>>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
How is this cope when it's an absolute fact? lmao.
Every month multiple Luxiem or Noctyx members will MOG almost the entirety of Hololive in addition to the usual JP Manjisanji mogging.

>>25451097
>didn't read archived thread or this thread
>holobronies dindu nuffin

genuinely kys, you're the worst vtuber fanbase hands down

>>25451714
I dunno what the fuck you're saying but it's clear to me that if you're openly not a fan of hololive then it means you're a faggot.

>>25451597
>Vox still made almost a 100k on the month where he was traveling and barely streamed for 2 weeks
Literally how.

>>25447540
quit it with the jp larp, Carlos

>>25451774
you support tribalism so it means you are a faggot and a retard

>>25456619
Nope. It's a universal truth that some tribes are worse than others, some cultures vastly inferior to others, some nations dogshit compared to others.
You should know all about that, since your parents lived in a tree.

>>25456619
Yes I'm a tribalist I hate nijiniggers and actual niggers.

>>25443083
>becoming synonymous with it
Mei...

This board is horrible and all of you should have been exterminated when jp kicked you out

>>25457240
It's literally the only board on this site that is balanced hormonally, even with all the asians around.

>>25449038
The biggest irony of this pasta, is that it is in itself a holocope kek

>>25457328
There's barely any actual discussion about chuuba or their stream anymore. It's just endlessly tribalfagging and numberbaiting.

>>25447909
Almost no one is doing it these days. It's like she found a completely unserved market... well being in a big corp helps too. Some of the Kawaii girls are decent at staying in character.

>>25451774
I started to hate holos because of the likes of you.

Intern niggers kys

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>>25443083
nah her success is just a fluke. like most things are. viral videos go viral cause of luck. that's all there is to it.

>>25443083
You forgot to add her design doesn't look like a donut steel

>>25443083
Also, all Hololive big players are on haitus

>>25443083
Her fans are mostly JOP

>>25447552
Johnny Carson only streamed for 1 hour.

>>25447306
I don't understand shit of Japanese and I still find her quite entertaining. That anon is just being a huge contrarian faggot.

>>25449038
This is what HOLOCOPE looks like

>>25443083
She will get a 3D model early by being bumped ahead of the waitlist

>>25478284
She can if she gets a record label contract

>>25478315
I don't think she mentioned singing even once.

>>25450666
based

lmao u made me laugh with the salami name OP fuck u

>>25478445
Hima can't sing for shit and still get record label, it's not about talent

>>25451097
>one luxiem stream has inconsistent viewcount because of shitty hotel internet makes it unwatchable
>see?? niji bots all the time, this is undeniable proof
>numberfags openly admit to botting
>it was just one guy, don't be a schizo

>>25443083
What can Nijisanji learn from this in regard to their new hires

>>25443083
>TLDR: Flanderization is good
Why are nijibros proud of all of these? Gura has her "A" but she never overused it, add to this she's an iconic singer, a meme lord, a decent variety streamer and a voice actor.
This lady will probably have a rough time when all the desuwa buffs wear off.

>>25447538
>zero bots
exactly.

>>25487324
quality over quantity

>>25488309
Salome doesn't just say desu wa though. She plays the character and adapts it to situations in games with pretty good comedic timing. Think more as if Gura was acting like an aggressive slightly retarded smug shark loli all the time and it just worked with her voice and antics. Novelty will wear off for Salome sooner or later but she's still funny and already got more exposure than most vtubers get in their lifecycle.

>>25447903
kek not really, you just keep calling people liars ad infinitum, that is hardly anything out of this world, making any kind of adult discourse impossible. That is your modus operandi, ad hominem in the most basic form, even 5 year olds have better come backs.