/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25429306
Cope

One thread nigger, migrate
>>25427201

imagine when council gets 3d before her?

Don't forget
>Got the worst model in the history of hololive and possibly the worst of any company period
>Has to bleach her own skin with filters
>No new outfits

>>25429843
I'm so bored of this meme and the retards that truly believe it

>>25429306
should've complained to project hope not cover

why is her face pale?

>>25430063
she got bleached

You should stop attributing her failure on her model or lack of 3D, it's not healthy

>>25429953
Which part of that is a meme and/or untrue?

>>25430181
She's cute and doesn't have the worst model

>>25429306
Even Kronii got a 3D model before her. Guess hope really does ride alone.

>>25429406

>>25430153
Being here in general isn't healthy, at least not by society's standard of mental health.

>>25430243
Damn You really blindly accept Her current avatar without any improvement for year. As talent she is entertaining but She should get better treatment for that.

>>25430677
The lack of outfit is a separate issue

>>25429306
I like her but she seems like the type to destroy neckbeard incels off screen so I can't support her. Something about her personality just oozes red flags. Shs seems disingenuous.

>>25430460
>IV: VENGEANCE

>>25430677
Irys’ model is unironically fine and I’m tired of pretending it’s not
It stands out for being a different artstyle from pretty much every other holo and the mobility in terms of rigging feels a little limited for how slender the design is but it’s not the eyesore everybody here wants me to believe it is

>>25430243
I agree. I think anons just can't handle a different art style.

>>25430814
>she seems like the type to destroy neckbeard incels off screen
I would let her destroy my dick alright

>>25430814

So she's like every single female streamer and vtuber ever? Shocking

>>25429306
Poor her, why did she choose EN anyway? Blinded by the Myth boom?

>>25431162
Most likely. Dumb bitch should've gone for the main branch.

>>25429306
cover noticed they were scammed and shes not a good singer. all those millions of views were youtube glitch and ppl mistaking her cover for the official thing

>>25431162
>>25431223
More because she was baited by the Vsinger part, anons. Having all the music related expenses covered by Cover is an attractive offer.
Just like us she couldn't predict she would just do the same thing as the regular members, would have a worst management and that her music would do worse than any regular members...

>>25431508
My rrat is a part of it was Cover's fault. When they have Myth, both Mori and Kiara are English-Japanese speakers, and they tried to use them as a chance to broaden Japanese anime culture to English viewers such as when Mori and Kiara asked to cover Naruto songs in English and Germany. Maybe Cover deemed them not enough and so they were rushed to add English-Japanese singer on their hand.

>>25430181
Irys makes her model cute because her personality is cute

Yep, IRyS is definitely the neglected stepchild of the group.

I watched her MV the other day and realized she's the only member of EN without an official mascot.

No outfit, no mascot, no 3D, original song video delayed weeks and then was generic as hell.... Just what are they doing with her?

>>25429306
She is not happy with her model, no point in making a 3d model if they plan to change the base design, is not like the needs 3d anyways, she doesnt collab with jps enough to be invited to their lives, would not sell out a solo live and she already had her bd stream no much point in getting her a 3d model atm

>>25433676
Much less successful 3view vsingers go on various 3D events but it's debatable if that's even something IRyS would want to do

>>25433938
Name one that isn't an oldfag

>IRyS
Who?

>>25434053
my wife

>>25429843
>Got the worst model in the history of hololive and possibly the worst of any company period
That's still Sana.

>>25430814
She seems like a Stacy, and I love it. She's the type of girl you bring to meet your parents and they ask when you're going to put a ring on her in the first few minutes

I'm just glad her most recent music isn't full of horribly paced and translated English. Seems like someone got the fucking hint and let her have more control because whoever was writing her shit before was terrible

>>25429306
Irys was nothing more than a hypegirl for Flopcil. Don't you think it's about time to get over this? Cover clearly doesn't give a shit.

>>25429843
>Got the worst model in the history of hololive and possibly the worst of any company period
Chris had the worst holo model. She couldn't even face forward.

>>25430243
Based and Nephilim-pilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auxs7PgQeaA
Look at the forced positivity in the comments. What the FUCK is wrong with normalfags? The avatar of hope literally tells them that she's losing hope that her new outfit (not even 3D, just a fucking outfit) would happen THIS YEAR (there's more than HALF OF THE YEAR left and she still doesn't believe it will arrive in that huge-ass timeframe).
And all these retards say as a response is: "wow unfortunate, we will wait patiently xD" or "the poor poor hecking artisterino, her hair is just too complicated pls undastand!"

Fucking retarded subhumans, literally incapable of emotions, I don't even watch IRyS and I feel more outrage at her treatment than these scumfucks do.

>>25436250
You have no idea how bad it really it is.
t. voted Fafner

>>25436250
Negativity is a huge nono unless you are cancelling someone in twitter for petty shit like liking a ship you don't like or drawing a fictional character aged up or something.
Normalfags should die.

>>25436250
Big corpo can do no wrong!

>>25429306
one reason why

fuck redjuice

>>25436888
Can't people just harass him until he bends the knee? It worked for chumbuds and that niggerrigger.

>>25436888
Do we even know he's actually the one causing problems? I'd say it's more on Cover for this

>>25436250
>Forced positivity
There are a lot of neutral and negative comments. Because YouTube is shit you won't see them unless you scroll down at least half of the comments

>>25436888
it's cover fault for hiring him

>>25433590
Mascots are entirely decided by the talent. You can't blame Cover for that one.

>>25433676
Except she just got invited to Sora's 3D live?

Ah yes, the boring girl with mediocre singing skills, awful music and nasal voice. I am sure her failure is because of her okay model, sou sou sou.

>>25431002
You are the minority. And the heavy-weight disagreeing with you is IrYs herself.

>>25430814
This but Mori

I'll never forgive redjuice

>>25429306
Ofc they hate her, she's black

>>25429843
Sana and Anya still exist tho

>>25437272
It could be but all other talents are doing fine in that area. So it's either the artist or she has a different manager that's at fault. Maybe it's Omega himself

>>25429306
There is a giant reason. Same reason for her lack of a new outfit.
She's getting a ground up redesign and it would be a waste to put the money into alt outfits and a 3D of this look when it's getting retired for a new one.
Watch more streams.

>>25441654
Will you change your stance when she gets a new outfit in a few months?

>>25438413
You think that idiot watches Sora? lol, EOPs live in a bubble.

>>25430814
Why not just stop being a neckbeard incel. Just fucking shave and start doing at least 100 pushups, crunches, squats a day. Maybe run like 2 twice a week. Bam, you're no longer neckbeard incel and/or don't feel the need to defend them.

>>25433938
>but it's debatable if that's even something IRyS would want to do
anon...
https://youtu.be/hrpubiRwB-k?t=2664

>>25442751
I'm talking about random 2view vsinger events, not hololive lives.

Just make IRyS replace Mori in myth and make the latter a Vsinger

She was very disgruntled the other day on twitter.

Azki only has two outfits so maybe vSingers get fewer outfits but they don't have to pay for their songs?

>>25429306
She's obviously getting a redesign just like when Nene's 3d was delayed
Honestly the way she handled this by complaining to her goslings and whining on twitter is super unprofessional and I went from liking Irys to thinking she's a Rushia tier menhera who should probably graduate. Her songs are kinda shitty for the most part so she's failed at being a vsinger, and she's not entertaining enough as a normal streamer.
This isn't even getting into the fact that she shouldn't even have been hired. Literally got in because of a YouTube bug. Compare her to good singers like Enna in NijiEN and the difference is night and day.

>>25443314
Vsinger needs to be able to sing

>>25443703
They should have hired an aspiring singer instead of a veteran utaite. Enna wouldn't have been the right pick either

There wouldn't be any problems if cover had done what any sane person would have and rejected redjuice's abomination outright. I'll never understand how someone looked at that design and thought "Yes, this is good art that I want to pay thousands of dollars to have rigged".

>>25444096
It's fine art if you don't have a weird vendetta against the guy

>>25444217
How are you posting while blind? Is someone typing for you?

>>25429306
Irys really is in a weird spot. I truly believe she should be treated as her own thing. Not tied to EN or council in such a way.

>>25443703
>thinking she's a Rushia tier menhera
>Wanting this to leave
Eat more meat, anon. Your T levels are dangerously low.

>>25444312
Do you think all of redjuice's art is bad? I see nothing wrong with it

>>25443541
>Azki only has two outfit
Nigger, AZKi has 3 FORMS. Both her second and third forms have an Idol outfit. It's very different
A redesign like AZKi got is way more expensive than just an outfit

>>25444312
nta but it's easy

>>25429306
She is the Inonaka Music of EN.

>>25444096
His character designs are actually pretty it's just that they can't be adapted 1:1 for anime or vtubers. If they wanted to use redjuice's design they should have gotten an additional artist to "simplify" it for vtuber rigging in different art style just like Guilty Crown anime team did. Of course, it would have been better to choose an artist whose design could be easily adapted in Live2D without those extra steps.
Even after debut seeing what fuckery they had committed, they could have easily hired another artist to rework the design in a different art style but chose not to.
They could have ditched IRyS 2D altogether and made her into another Miko (3D only) and the person working on her 3D would have properly modified her design to be more in line with other Holos. Then Cover could have shat out an excuse to redjuice or any of his fans "that's what needed to be done to have IRyS in 3D" and everyone would have been happy including IRyS herself.
Finally, it makes no sense to have a VSinger in 2D to begin with. If her role is to sing then obviously 3D concerts and even live 3D studio karaoke would have been great for her career. Instead she has to appear as fucking cardboard in her collabs with senpai. As a vsinger she may be under different contract but still treating her like shit is unacceptable.

>>25444632
She was truly the Cover of Project Hope all along...

I think she's a top tier talent, one of the best singers in the scene and a great streamer but I honestly wonder if it might just all be her fault and that she's awful to work with. If the outfit is blocked by her demands for a redesign or something

>>25444900
yes it's just like asking for a Yoshitaka Amano vtuber, sometimes some things are just made to stay far from each other.

>>25444971
She does sound hard to work with

>>25429306
guess she'll have to project cope

I think that she debuted in july last year?
I hope that they press the reset button on her in her 1st anniversary later.

>>25444999

to be fair, if half of what was done to Irys would have be done to Hanatan, I would be pretty mad.

>>25444971
>Gets a shit design
>Does her best to make it works
>They show her an outfit she doesn't like
>"Maybe I can have something I like?"
If that's being too demanding, then maybe more talents should be more demanding instead of being doormats

>>25445138
It's not that she didn't like it, it just wasn't exactly what she asked for

>Design
>Design
>Design

There's nothing wrong with her design, you guys put way too much blame on it when her issues have always been her streaming times and management fucking her over with poor decisions. It's not like Gura or Anya where they have glaring issues that make it hard to look at them, or Sana who looks bald in the back of the head because her hair and skin color clash too much.

Cover is always going to prioritize JP talents first, this is a lesson you should have learned from watching Myth.

>>25431002
go back and watch her debut then come back and spout this bullshit. her model has gotten a TON of small improvements over time which is basically all they can do to improve it. redjuice is an awesome artist but he didn't do a good job with her. irys is still one of the best vtubers because of her personality but to pretend her model is fine is a fucking insult to her. she'd be way bigger if she had a good model, that's just a fact.

>>25445270
>it just wasn't exactly what she asked for
Nice headcanon, schizo. She never said that, the official anouncement never said that.

>>25445353
She got a rigging update in January that changed her nose and hair but I've never seen any evidence that there has been any other small improvements.

>>25429306
They expected her to be a runaway hit as EN's designated vsinger but they somehow failed to realize EN already has singers so IRyS' gimmick was redundant and it didn't give her any advantage at all. Cover should just fucking accept their EN vsinger project didn't pan out and let her properly join Council or Myth so she's no longer the odd woman out.

>>25439681
>>25434213
You are actually insane if you think Sana looks worse.

>>25446620
She does and that's why she the least subbed holo

>>25445353
Piggy sucks, and it has nothing to do with.her model.

>>25446620
>insane person calls others insane
many such cases

>>25444999
>Hard to work with
It's the other way around, cover doesn't tell her anything in regards to her job or offer any help beyond financial support with strings attached. Even with her recent freedom to do covers she still has useless middlemen making workflow grind to a halt because they won't get off their ass to contact artists/producers on time. Something she could easily do herself is now needlessly complicated and because of her contract she's forced to use them instead of handling it herself.

>>25447178
Just because she can release a cover in 1-2 months doesn't mean she could easily handle the production of orisongs.

>>25446875
"I know you are but what am I?"
How's it feel not having gained any intelligence since primary school

>>25429843
Rhombus…
Anya…
Flare…

>>25444217
I like his other art but Irys's design is awful. If you look at other stuff it's like why did he make something so ugly?

Pako messed up a bit with Sana but that can be fixed by her getting better rigging. You can't fix Irys looking like a goblin.

>>25443314
Why would Mori ever take that deal? Even if she needed money for her songs she has UMG behind her now.

>>25429306
IRyS will be the first to graduate and I don't blame her.

>>25448779
Do you think she looks ugly in >>25430751 or pic related?

>>25448737
Those are rigging issues. Cover uses their crap software for rigging instead of better software that is free. It's why holos look worse than random 2view vtubers.

Hololive is being hard carried by their talents. Their game selection is crap which is why they all play the same games. Cover seisos the shit out of anything interesting they can make so their shit is boring to watch now, and their rigging is awful. No one in Hololive has good rigging. Just range from acceptable to watch to such an abomination some gave up and became a pngtuber instead.

>>25448873
You’re right, mori should just leave Hololive behind and IRyS can fill the gap

>>25448985
Both. There's something uncanny about her face and her design is really busy looking.

If you look at his art from Guilty Crown or his light novel covers, why couldn't he just do a similar design to that? It'd suit Irys as a streamer way more than whatever she is now.

Even her past life avatar was leagues better than what she has now. It's a huge shame.

>>25448985
her mouth is too wide, that's all that's really wrong with her.

come to think of it, has anything done by redjuice received a 3D treatment ever? looks like a nightmare to do

>>25437272
I have no idea what the fuck management would gain by doing this. Irys herself is aware that her fans are unhappy about it so at least her manager would know this as well. It seems unlikely.

>>25450196
All his anime designs were completely redesigned by actual anime character designers.
His art style is unique but it just doesn't work in certain mediums. He's just a really good costume designer when it comes to those mediums.

>>25429306
it just isn't fair, isn't it Iryis ? suck it up.

>>25430814
aka everyone in hololive

>>25449933
I like the wide mouth. Even if it makes her looks stupid I think it's charming

>>25430814
>t. thinks Rushia was the victim

>>25429306
She'll have the last laugh when she gets updated to Whiterys

I'm convinced she was a make a wish kid that's past her expiration date.

>>25451971
she was though

>>25452186
t. Amber Heard supporter

>>25429306
IRyS model really is a huge turn off. Like I literally didn't even try to watch her for months because of how disgusted i am of her design. And I regret it when I did give her a try. She;s actually a pretty good entertainer overall and I think one of the best in HoloEN

>>25431162
She probably applied to JP and management saw her application while sorting through the applications and asked her if she wanted to do EN as a Vsinger, since that is probably how she marketed herself on her application. She probably did accept as Myth was big at the moment, but didn't expect the delay in debut and then the neglect from management outside of her music. If she did graduate, I honestly wouldn't blame her.

>>25444900
This. Imagine if they had gotten Ina to make her design more anime like for Live2D

>>25451971
She kinda was and kinda wasn’t.
Breaking NDA was a huge mistake of course, but she was driven there by panic and cover’s jarring incompetence to handle the whole situation.

>>25453320
Panic of her own creation.

>>25453320
She had been spreading false information months before anything happened. There was zero panic involved in making that happen.

>>25442563
>your ugly face is laid bare and you're in slightly better shape
>still don't know how to communicate with women, catch their interest, pass their shit tests, form human connections instead of staring into a screen

just be more confident bro

>>25453814
Unironically yes. You can train yourself to be more confident you stupid nigger.

>>25442095
That guy barely speaks English though

>>25448397
"Y-you're a dummy dumdum!"
How's it feel not having gained any intelligence since the womb?

>>25452910
Nah, she's said that she specifically applied for the Vsinger role. She probably just didn't anticipate that it would lead to Cover absolutely shafting her.

>>25451971
People with BPD are victims of their own mental condition alongside society's expectations.

>>25454371
'People' with BPD should be chemically lobotomized and castrated.

If she cannot fix her model then what she needs is to just keep releasing more music and also collab with other Holos on new covers and songs. She needs to play up her own strengths.

>>25454371
The society isn't victimizing them in any way by not coddling to the mentally ill in every single environment.

>>25454738
It's not about victimization. With BPD you actually have to assume people might be more mean or irrational than regular folk.

>>25432610
Yes, that is what a vtuber does. That's how it works.

>>25454371
>Be insane
>Get treated like an insane person
>MUH SOCIETY
Fuck off you twitter faggot, a dangerous animal should be treated like a dangerous animal.

>>25454804
Having BPD doesn't make them brain dead either. It's their own responsibility to seek help and not get into situations where their mental illness makes everything difficult.
Rushia had been contacting untrustworthy people for months after receiving her diagnosis. She's not a victim.

does anyone else how Iyris gets the crap end of the stick? like damn I kinda feel bad for the gal but she made it this far so yeAH

>>25429306
project hope is probably run by yagoo´s nephew or something. And you can´t fire people in japan... so they are just doing that for the money.

all the outfits in the universe won't make me watch her soulless streams

>>25431002
everybody loves her design. it is very good and beautiful. 4 chan people are just low life asians with suicide thoughts. cant expect anything good from them.

>>25431508
we all knew about azki though.

>>25452910
>probably
Amazing how often you can see somebody completely make things up and then convince themselves it's true over the span of a few sentences.

>>25445881
IRyS would do 100x better as a JP singer than an EN singer. An EN Vsinger would only have appeal in weeb circles, while a JP vsinger would have much broader appeal.

>>25436250
>the reason
>doesn't give a reason

>>25449933
the mouth is her best feature, even better animated

>>25436250
"I was thinking It'd be nice if it happened next year, but I'm starting to lose hope"

Man, that's fucking sad, I really feel bad for IRyS, she deserver a better treatment than that. If that's Redjuice's fault somehow, Cover should hire another artist to do a redesign and give her a kimono already. If his artstyle is so hard to adapt, Cover should have done this sooner.

>>25436250
Those people that you're calling out see things as a whole
>Still no outfit for her vtuber? that's unfortunate... Right she is a vtuber making thousands of $ with thousands of fans, she is winning hard at life, that outfit isn't a big deal.

>>25453814
If you're a true introvert, communicating with most people is going to be a challenge regardless of what you look like, but it can be made easier to deal with through practice/experience. Confidence is one of the most attractive traits, and for an introvert that's only going to come with experience and/or effort. You're never going to fit in with extroverted normalfags, but you can at least learn to like yourself, and that alone goes a long way toward making life more enjoyable.

>>25455025
Management aren't her parents. At her age she should know that posting suicide bait and talking to gossip vtubers will get you fired. Does your boss fucking treat you like a retarded child?

>>25457613
Doesn't she even have an excuse in her lore that would make it easy for her to do a redesign? It was something along the lines of an unstable form or something that was influenced by her emotions.

IRyS would have been an actual Gura killer if they had kept her PL avatar and simply signed her onto Hololive, like they did with Sui-chan and AZKi.

>something something moe bad

Don't care.

>>25444971
>If the outfit is blocked by her demands for a redesign or something
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making demands if you strive for the best. See exhibit A.

>>25449004
> No one in Hololive has good rigging

>>25429953
Same, it's hillarious how much they peddle it despite IRyS still being one of the girls that will probably reach 1m by the end of the year, her design is "so ugly" it's completely filtering those 800k+ fans while somehow JP holos they debuted before her are struggling to be where she is, hmmmmm?

>>25433676
>if they plan to change the base design
And what exactly is stopping them from just doing that?

>>25462588
Oh yeah! I had completely forgotten about that part of her lore, one more reason for her to get a redesign.