/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

no we are not

>>25426172
yes, they're all so poor the entire Holomyth bought new houses and are renting new offices just for streaming.

>>25426172
Yes, they are paid monthly. Which is why Ayame and Sana could do lot of lot of Hiatus

>>25426172
Salary+a cut from super chats and memberships

>>25426172
Gura is a millionaire with all the memberships. She will never have to worry about money until she dies of old age.

>>25426172
Each member has different contract, Gura barely gets anything which is why she can't do any project

>>25426547
>>25430128
duality of /vt/

>>25430128
>Gura doesn't get paid so that's why she doesn't have any projects.
Chumbud will never admit his oshi's lazy ass and will pretend she's poor.

>>25430128
rumao, if that's the case, then she would do superchat reading streams more often, like the nijis people claim to be so relevant.

>>25430914
What for? If the contract is fixed salary, or mere 5% of SC as bonus , then no matter how much SC she gets, only cover will profit. Then it's better to just work the bare minimum.

of course they are paid well. If not, Gura would have revived her other self.

>>25426476
Remember Mori ''I lived in a cardboard box apartment'' Calliope wanting to spend over 10k on a hotel room for kiara and her as if it was nothing after a few months of being a vtuber.

>>25433711
>''I lived in a cardboard box apartment''
well, that was a lie to begin with.

>>25426172
We know jewtube takes 30% off the top on everything. Someone's got to know something about the company/talent split after that.

>>25434443
it might not be just a matter of money, it seems like not everyone in Japan likes renting to gaijins so maybe that's just what was available in her area

>>25426172
Wouldn't be surprised if they take home at least 6 figs, but probably much less than popular independent streamers on twitch/youtube.

I'm actually interested in what benefits US-based vtubers are getting or if they're just contractors. 401k, health insurance, even company stock, that shit adds up to a lot.

>>25426172
they get paid in snacks and high-fives. if they perform especially well, Cover takes a long wooden box from the top shelf and lets them pick one toy from it to keep and play with.

>>25433350
Gura is proud of being gura because she can show her mom and dad. That other thing she had to get drunk most of the time to even do.

>>25434664
There are (or were) at least 2 publicly available recordings of Holomem talking about it. Coco told everyone that Cover takes half and I think it was Marine who talked about Pekora being able to negotiate 60/40 split in her favor. So, jewtube takes 30% and what's left is split 50/50 based on standard contract. After that they have to pay taxes. Also, I'm not too knowledgeable about Apple Pay but at least in the past they used to take 15-30% so unless something changed people who donate using this method get their donation cut by Apple before jewtube and Cover can even get their shares. So when you consider that 10$ donation turns into 2.5-3$ pre-tax it's not exactly great. That's why buying merch is always better.

>>25434737
It's this, if you're a foreigner in Japan you're only going to get shitty apartments unless you have JP relatives or are obscenely wealthy

>>25436096
This is correct, if you superchat via IAPs on iOS the holo only gets 24.5% of your money (50% of 70% of 70%)

Maybe they can adjust the percentage from each income source in the contract
From adsense, sc, member, and merch

Gura's distribution is probably
80%, 20%, 80%, 20%

They get fat cuts taken by taxes and YouTube and Cover probably takes more than they admit but it’s still amazing money. Easily US specialty doctor or silicon engineer at the end of the day

Why do people always bring taxes into it? It's not like that's unique to vtubers, and literally nobody uses their net take-home pay when they're talking about how much money they make

>>25438074
because we don't know how much money they make so we're trying to make an estimation

Does Gura still have around 8-12k members? Meaning assuming that a majority of her members aren't in ARS, she's making around $15-20k a month (pre-tax) from memberships alone.

She also gets game sponsorships, the taco bell thing, and an extra few thousand in SC every month including Cover's cut.

Gura, Ame and maybe Fauna/ Mumei depending on what state theyre in definitely pay the least in taxes
The japs pay a crazy amount in taxes (no clue what indotaxes are like and dont care lmao)

>>25438074
It's to emphasize that it's not their actual salary. In some countries what you get paid from your employer already has all or most required taxes paid prior so what you get is what you can spend. In this case Cover takes shit load of money and then pays them scraps and they have to pay taxes on that. Depending where they live that remaining 2.5$ from 10$ donation could turn into 1.7-2$ which is bullshit considering it's not enough to buy a cup of coffee in most places.

>>25437270
worth to mention that all greedy e-celebs don't give a shit about memberships and superchats, all they do is pump out new videos to make more ad/premium money, which is coincident with what yt told in the blog here
>Ads have been at the core of creators’ revenue streams, and continue to be the main way that creators can earn money on YouTube
https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/10-ways-monetize-youtube/

>>25438520
Yeah but when I'm talking about my own actual salary, I'm not deducting tax from it either. Nobody describes their income like this

>>25438708
>talking about my own actual salary
In this case, the bigger number you say, the better you look. Regardless of how much of that you actually take home
The reason these threads usually talk about the chuuba's net income is that people want to know how much money is actually going into the hands of the talents. I thought that'd be obvious?

Top tier Hololive (think like top 15) clear 7 figgies a year easy. For ENs that probably includes Gura and Mori. Everyone else in the company makes high-to-mid six figures. They'll all be millionaires before it's over, no doubt, unless they just give up and stop streaming regularly super early into their career and take big huge breaks all the time and stuff. Probably the only way someone could kneecap this easy gig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpw7b1qV3qw

200 dollars salary so they don't get paid much

>>25442243
to add to this, it's easy to bait and go "ermagherd they be quajillionaires going around and buying moguyachts" looking at just the supacha numbers, but that's incorrect when we look at how much the net amount might be

>>25426172
If living in the land of the free all my life, as well as having moderately successful relatives in the entertainment industry) has taught me anything, it's popular entertainers always get paid well. However, it's also a rather volatile career path. I know someone that makes around 500 bucks a day during their gigs, and that's not even remotely scratching the kind of numbers and popularity of even the least popular Holo.

>>25426172
Coco commented a few years back that she and a genmate were talking about their salary(early on) and how low it was. But they get a cut of merch and superchats and memberships and ad revenue.

>>25426172
They have both a normal salary as well as a cut in merch, superchats and other individual income sources
The salary is a way cover partially redistributes money so the less popular holos get a slice of the cake as well

30% of sc and members money to yt, then 50% of that to Cover. Holos have base + yt + merch + events

soo like 40k in SC alone is 14k for a holo - taxes per month

>>25433711
mori came from rich family, her grandpa own sport car

Numberfags are the worse.

>>25426172
It's been stated many times before. Between Youtube/Twitch, the company and finally taxes. There is little to no money being made by just being a streamer. That's why you need merch or have an off-account.

>>25426172
how old are you op?

>>25426172
go back to numbers thread, faggot.

>>25432764
Whatever contracts they had, now they have the leverage to ask for a bigger cut if they want more upon renewing the contracts.