/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>46,696: Haachama (Hololive)
>45,176: Haachama (Hololive)
>30,828: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,682: Fubuki (Hololive)
>23,876: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,209: Reid (Neo Porte)
>18,639: Gura (Hololive)
>18,273: Kanata (Hololive)
>18,239: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,286: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,481: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,426: Towa (Hololive)
>13,049: Noel (Hololive)
>12,248: Watame (Hololive)
>11,486: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,377: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,278: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,052: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,002: Selen (Nijisanji)

>>25410876
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Haachama, Salome

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
104x: Hololive
40x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine, Salome
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Kobo 10k

hierarchy

Kobo 10k

>>25410946
Demon lord!

Weird, she doesn't show up here
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

>>25410828
>>25410841
When will we ever get an actual lewd nun chuuba…

A reminder that Kobo has friday prayer debuff.

Kobo playing valorant is like kaela with LolWR

>>25410946
kronii...

>>25410946
Will Kronii make it past 10k?

>>25410876
Gura....

>>25411014
I'm curious on how many numbers will she get tommorow. She will collab valo with ame and iroha

>>25408101
Suha went from 3rd place to 1st, but pretty much all of them except Seffyna are still pretty slow. The fastest ones after her are taking about 2-4 days to even get at least 1k.

>>25410997
Amano Nene from 3view Kawaii is basically a nun chuuba if that helps.

>>25410946
Sorry Kobo, gonna leave for my Friday prayer

>>25411071
more than both combined

>>25411048
Nope, she's going be stuck just under it, unless a few hundred people come outta nowhere to watch.

>>25410997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FOkwKi_IFg

>>25411103
Oh, it's the chuuba with the same name as the girl from Digimon.

>>25410946
There's gonna be so much shitposting when Kobos POV CCV doubles Ames for the collab huh?

>>25411103
Any updates on Kawaii since hey reached their Kickstarter goal?

11k blue slime

>>25411186
It'll be funny atleast

I hope Nijisanji can at least hold an ID audition again, they have proven to be able to find superstars so I have no doubt they can succeed in the ID market.

>>25410946
Kobo coming for gura throne in NA time.

>>25411320
just stop already

>>25411111(me)
Oop, looks like she just managed to sneak over 10k.

>>25411186
max 6k
english debuff

>>25411320
Any ID they'd pick up in the future would be bilingual EN/ID

>>25411320
Didn't they just nuked the branch and merged the talents into the main branch? Does it mean that they won't be recruiting ID anymore or that they will do it but without the NijiID brand?

>>25411320
>they have proven to be able to find superstars
And it only took them 100 tries!

>>25411427
it means no indonesian auditions, anyone they get must be from some other country

>>25411320
Anycolor already spend their luck for Salome

>>25410946
wkwkwkwwkwkwkwkwkwwkwkkwwk

>>25411427
The former
They probably will try to find an English speaking Salome

Who's Crimson channel and what's the group she's in? Looks like an LN artist or something. She went from less than 1k subs gained in the last month to 2-3k a day after a face reveal video.
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/user/204FCB4DB1EDCC0B_44e51e
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/crimson

>>25411406
that's before the ban buff, we dont know what's her floor after the ban now

>>25410946
Jesus, Kobo is too strong

>>25411582
*Looks like a VN artist or something
Sorry.

>>25411582
>face reveal
so, not a vtuber

>>25411537
Is an English-speaking Salome possible?

>>25411537
>Find a EN female extremely charismatic and confident to solo debut.
Not going to be easy

>>25411676
Irys...

>>25411677
Yes.

>>25411699
IRyS is extremely charismatic but she absolutely lacks the confidence part. I watch her every time she streams so I know how she is.

>>25411677
what's the gimmick then? wholesome valley girl?

>>25411699
She would need a good design ad an easy character archetype to play

>>25411246
The models are due to be released in January. They are still voting for the top 3 places for who will be center when they sing their idol songs with the models.

Why do y'all speak as if talented females would go for NijiEN instead of HoloEN?
If anything, Cover might find EN Salome first.

>>25411749
That... could maaaaybe work, they just have to find someone who isn't obese, cares about acting and doesn't cringe at weeb stuff.

>>25411677
Gura (?)

>>25411406
>english debuff
They're all gonna be speaking in their native languages anon

>>25411699
She kinda goofed her first month by trying to be 'serious' instead of the goofball she is now. Also design debuff.

>>25411910
>Cover might find another EN Salome
fixed

>>25411677
Gura's the closest any EN vtuber is going to get to being phenomenon like Salome, and I don't think anyone's expecting a new Gura. You can see the differences in audience to, with Gura having both a higher sub ceiling and a lower CCV floor than Salome.

>>25411677
Yeah, but they kind of debuted all at the same time.
>Mori if all she did was music shit and didn't pretend like she liked games and actually learned them as she goes.
>Gura
It's Gura, we all know where she came from and where she is going.

>>25411677
no, vtubing is much more niche than even in Japan, there isn't going to be any 90k average live ccv English vtuber that isn't a convert.

>>25411641
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh8HNjk3pFqgGS5DGJRW56Q/videos
The channel always had VTuber content and was listed as a VTuber channel in userlocal for a long time already before that video, and is even included there in a group. Stop it with the "not a VTuber" shit already.
Anyway, I'm still asking who this channel is and what the group she's in is about.

>>25411427
>Nijisanji rebrands their IN branch to EN
>Hololive has a popular EN branch
>Nijisanji ditches the current EN branch and makes a new one to try to cash in on it
years later...
>Nijisanji rebrands their ID branch to general Niji
>Hololive has a popular ID branch
>Nijisanji bring back the ID branch to try to cash in on it again

I would laugh

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1532563844714967040
Why is she such a numberfag?

Hey, I'm kind of wondering, how do people know when something fun happened mid-stream, and suddenly the viewers go up instantly? is switching tab really not registering as live views?

>>25412117
nice GET

>>25412117
Demon number for Demon Lort

>>25412082
I went ahead and searched her channel url in the archives. Looks like she's a hentai artist.
>>/vt/thread/S8668262#p8909998
>>/jp/thread/S24795107#p24829433
>>/jp/thread/S29581931#p29583100

>>25412124
Are you retarded?

>>25412162
It's funny to see her lore change from rain shaman into the demon lord

kobo promoting her channel in the valo stream KEK, this brat

>>25412124
You'd be surprised how quickly word of mouth can spread.
People start posting about it on Twitter, Discord or even 4chan and it can cause a big sudden uptick in viewers as people tune in to see what the hype is about.
Youtube will also push a livestream's impressions more if they see a suffen spike in viewers, so a big flood of viewers just tends to snowball into even more viewers.

>>25412182
oh wait, i know crimson
they draw great rape content, used to be one of my favorite hentai artists

The rest of the contenders in the EN race.

>>25412124
Jewtube doesn't like tabbed people, we have talked about this a lot of times do your reps anon, proof:
https://vrabi.net/video/81RfpmEgb64
Do you see those three dumps in the middle of the stream? The first one she went to the toilet and after seeing the numbers decreasing she decided to do an experiment telling her viewers to tab out, which caused the next two, you can check the stream if you want

>>25412225
No, I mean like in the ongoing stream. I'm watching kobo rn, and there is someone in her team voice chat her, then suddenly the viewers instantly go up like 1,5k. I'm guessing those people who watch while working and then open her stream tab again just to see their interaction

>>25412238
crimson is a legend

>>25412289
It's a strange world we live in where the EN/ID race is now more entertaining for me than the JP race.

>>25411320
Nijisanji might as well have literally won the lottery with Salome. That's not talent scouting, it's just buying more scratch off tickets until one of them wins

What was Amelia's ccv today?

>>25412340
Oh, thanks! i just curious. i'll do my reps for the rest

>>25412385
lol ;)

>>25412289
>En Gold
>kys
Should be Milord's gold, but after seeing today's numbers and since they are overlapping again I don't know what to expect

>>25412401
peak of 7480 on holostats, averaging 6k or so.

>>25412383
ID 3 stronk

come stream, milord

WHAT THE FUCK DID AME DO

fricking hilarious how kobo's "yab" similar from towa literally just gotten left in the dark
those antis trying to push the yab basically must be in despair now and just moved on

>>25412473
That's decent i guess... But it's truly sad she can't break the 10k anymore. I wanted her to grow better after distancing herself from Gura but in the end they only cared about Gurame at the time.

>>25411677
I'd say that an English Salome is easy actually. Salome isn't the product of actual talent, it's pure strategy. All you have to do is be as superficially appealing as possible from first impression, generate some interest through non-controversial shock value, and then don't do anything that could potentially filter your viewers.

An indie could never do it, but corporations could manufacture Salome's if they were willing to do all the legwork behind the scenes.

>>25412573
Because there is a bigger yab that involves the biggest EN vtuber VOX happened at the same time.

>>25412573
They consider the poop story to be more interesting

>>25412604
Amelias peaks have been long filtered out she has no real tourist pull anymore but she has held a stable hold on her base of 6k~ or so for the like 9 months

People here keep assuming the market hit it's limit and then an exception comes and they're surprised. First with EN, people were saying they'd only get 1k ccv, then EN1 proved them wrong. Then with males, Luxiem proved them wrong by getting a new market. Then with Kobo, and now with Salome. Basically, you shouldn't assume the market has hit its cap yet.

>>25412632
So if Nijisanji can find a talent that is bigger than xQc in EN, does this mean they own the streaming world?

>>25412789
>Luxiem proved them wrong
Pandering to zhangs doesn't count

>>25412824
even so, it proves there's a market for them

>>25412632
Thank you dear anon for giving Niji interns an idea. This will help the company greatly.

>>25412811
No, because those talents become flesh streamers and make 10x more money by just working on their own

>>25412858
No it doesn't. A handful of crazy women botting and view farming streams doesn't count as a market.

>>25412884
ok even if you disregard them, the other exceptions have proved this thread wrong every time.

>>25412722
That's okay. But i wish she had more

>>25412632
If that's the case, between Cover and Anykara, which one do you think will get EN Salome? Cover seems like a much safe choice since they can allocate funds for new debuts. However, Anykara has more freedom to do this kind of debuts.

>>25412789
There are always limits anon. Continuous growth is always unrealistic, there is a market cap. None of us are smart enough to actually call it right now, but eventually it will be met, and the industry will never grow again

>>25412873
Are you stupid? No fleshtuber can match the resources that a public company can have

>>25412962
that's why I said "yet", I don't think the market hit it's cap even though it will in future

>>25412824
Why?

>>25412884
The same people botting Luxiem are the people who are botting Salome. It's a bunch of Chinese who want to damage Hololive.

>>25412573
she ate shit, no amount of boyfriend yab can top that kek

>>25410946
Blue women stuff

>>25412971
Any of the top 10 Felshtubers could probably buy cover outright, those guys can throw around millions of dollars like its nothing.

>>25412913
Anykara, it's obvious since the company has more money to throw at vtubers.
Cover these days are quite unsafe since they don't have any guarantees.

>>25412997
Because China has a history of fudging numbers and they have motive to try and make Hololive look bad.

>>25413031
what about their metaspace

>>25413031
Cover literally has a game project and Metaverse project in the works

>>25413030
Kek, imagine being in a bubble thinking fleshtubers can buy a company that gets hundreds of millions annually like Anykara.

>>25413031
baffling post

>>25413031
At least be coherent in your bait. Nijisanji has had so many flops it's impossible to take this angle seriously. By comparison, even Cover's worst preforming ventures are still successful

>>25412905
She still breaks 10k every now and then with her Saturday buff streams. From what I've seen she also seems to do really well with membership numbers so I don't think she's too miffed about low viewership for gameplay streams.

>>25413086
>Anykara
They are literally a dying company

>>25413074
Anon, those projects are literally money pits that might not be successful at all. They aim at a niche audience so most people likely wouldn't care.
And casual gamers will flame them for being low-quality as shit. Cover is doing them with nothing to gain.

>>25412962
T. Never studied Economics

>>25412962
t. uneducatedchama

>>25413138
Dying companies do not top charts, viewership and go public anon. Do you understand business?

>>25413086
YouTuber maybe
But top flesh streamer make so much money it’s unreal I wouldn’t doubt it. We are talking about people who see million of dollars and say “only”

>>25413212
xqc basically laughed at amber heard's 8m, that tells you how much money he has

>>25413212
Jesus Christ, this place and dumbass takes always go together.
If you're a company that go public with investors rushing in, you own billions of dollars in just investment alone. That's not counting assets and profits. I doubt streamers can match that.

>>25413203
Sure they do. It's called a grand farewell tour. People watch during the farewell tour to remember the once great memories of the dying company who is a shell of its former self.

They are a dying company and will be closed by the end of the year.

>>25412789
>People here keep assuming the market hit it's limit and then an exception comes and they're surprised.
It did hit the limit, you retard.
>EN
New market created as at the peak of a global pandemic. The surprising part was just how much of them were actually watching streams and not just clips.
>Males
Correctly predicted for the west, while no one expected that chink fujos would latch onto the guys and hang onto dear life.
>Kobo
Did anyone ever claim that Indonesia was a dead market? Literally new people watching her.
>Salome
Literally new people watching her.

In case you don't understand, the common trait that they all have is that they were more or less completely new people that entered VTuber market, which was more or less saturated at the point new talent was being debuted. There is a reason why you don't see that many agencies debuting more than a handful of people at a time (with the obvious exception of Nijisanji because flooding every market they enter is part of their strategy).

Fauna Zeta collab far far outside of Faunas usual timeslot and overlapping with Kronii whos holding 9.5k currently

>>25413297
That is why I am not sure. I know buying a company is a big feat and all but at the same time I FEEL like someone out there could easily do it

>>25413402
because new people joining a market proves it hasn't hit the limit yet? if no one new has joined the market, aka no tourists, then it hit it's limit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81CIA9Cg2oE
I did call it earlier. Zeta has filters too many people. 5k peak.

>>25411486
> get 250 talents.
> compost 249
> get 1 susper star

>>25413297
We have the finance reports, they've been posted in these threads, both Cover and Anykara are running on operating budgets in just millions of dollars.

It's nowhere near enough that someone like Mr Beast 'I just bought a solid gold toilet for 1 million dollars and gave it away to the first person who shits on it' couldn't come in and buy out both on a whim.

This is what a 3k peak stream looks like.

>>25413618
Who raided her?

>>25413591
I wouldn't even say Superstar since most of the viewership is botted and view farmed.

I love how flirty Fauna is with girls. I hope she collabs one day with shondo to hear the ultimate ASMR delight.

>>25412573
Shes a fucking child that lives with her mommy who watches her stream from the other room. What fucking yab could people force? It's way different from Towa an adult woman who lived alone.

>>25413656
I assume Shu. He was the only one with enough people.

>>25413578
She's over 5k 10 minutes in anon.

>>25413815
She's zedding out!

>>25413578
you were saying?

So the new cope is that Salome has no talent?

>>25412789
The thing is like you already said: "EN1 proved
them wrong", EN had its peak with Myth, all the EN speakers that could have any interest in chuubas already know them and the market is way more saturated than it used to be in 2020.
The next logical movement to go viral in a new market would be going for the ES market, but even if they were to get huge CCV, they would still earn less than any EN or JP bottom shitter, so it isn't worth the risk, just debut a new gen and you'll make more money

>>25413618
>more than 2000 join the stream
>less than 50% remain less than 15 minutes later
Is the Nijibox that bad?

>>25413961
Well it isn’t a cope. She haven’t show us anything else beside the kayfabe yet

>>25413961
i thought it was that she has too much talent to be a mere streamer

So Kobo right now is very good at hitting high peaks, the next step for her will be how to manage a higher average ccv.
Even if ignoring the SC/zatsu at the end of each stream, her viewers are still more volatile.

>>25413961
Anybody who watches her can tell she is very one dimensional and once the act gets old she is done. Not a lot of talent there.

>>25414002
being able to roleplay that well is a talent

>>25413998
men should only raid other men

>>25414027
>Anybody who watches her can tell she is very one dimensional
so why are 90k people still watching her?

>>25412573
Janny(tranny) deleted every post about the yab so tourist doesn't know

>>25413297
>>25413605
Proof. The units are in 1000 Yen, so the math works out to a range of 10 ~ 20 million dollars in costs and profits.

>>25413961
She's better off being an actual seiyuu then this vtubing shit

>>25412573
indogs don't give a shit about stuff like that
if the same thing happens to Lamy for example, it's gonna be a big drama

>>25414105
bots and view farms

>>25414143
why? Being a vtuber brings her a lot more money

>>25414105
Because she only streamed for 8 hours total so far. She hasn't filtered her audience at all which is why its still so large.

>>25413578
Cuckbros are enjoying it

>>25414181
proof next thread?

>>25413961
no anon, she's just THAT good

>>25414142
Fuck, picrel

>>25414217
yeah but if they can see that she's one dimensional they should stop watching her by now no?

>>25414059
Her kayfabe is honestly thinner than Luna's

>>25414105
It's been two weeks holy duck. We'll see her real numbers next year.

>>25414315
>next year
do bronies really?

>>25414278
Not really. Also not that anon. You can sustain a large, superficial audience of tourists by just being extremely inoffensive and generally appealing, it's just unstable.

Millie releasing a tagalog original song. Will this help her numbers?
https://youtu.be/EgukS75O20I

>>25414242
The proof has been well documented. Do your archive reps.

>>25414143
>only have to work 1 hour a day
>bring in more money than a seiyuu
>probably get treated better by your employers too
I think she made the right choice

reminder that kaela > zeta

>>25414344
Would you watch someone whom you think is one dimensional for a week?
I don't think I would

>>25414334
Yes. Look at myth. Gura's 4m barely show up to her streams. A lot of things change in just one year. Vox was the top EN dog until Reimu cucked her whales. It hasn't even been a month.

I understand Nijis have nothing to show besides their one superstar while the others crawl in the mud. So please enjoy your 100k streamer, enjoy her very very dearly

>>25414384
Yeah just like me fucking your mom is also well documented

Pekora has gone insane with the shorts, after all the 3D, she tried with small compilations, now with some weird shit "how to do a nousagi"
Even Botan mogged her: https://youtu.be/cLz8lZgtp2w
Yamete peko, it's hurting your numbers more than it's helping

Manager hasn't given IRyS merch samples

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1532582484575068160
Seeing my journey merchandise reaching people and it looks so nice in pictures!! thank you so much for the support! Also, I want a sample too (gives digital stares at manager-san)

>>25414462
I probably wouldn't be here next year
Le next year is a cope to me, how about next month?

>>25414105
Holokeks would rather die on their hill than to admit a superior chuuba has joined Nijisanji. If she was a Holo, they would be praising her as the second coming of Jesus while shitting on Nijisanji. Truly the blight of Vtuber world

>>25414501
Communication seems pretty bad between her and Cover in general; you should have heard her rant about her outfit troubles.

>>25414486
if she stops, what should she do instead? just confine herself to twitter?

>>25414570
What do you expect from black company Cover? She wasn't performing as well as they expected despite having a 100m views cover on her resume. This is Cover's way of telling her to suck it up or graduate

>>25414417
I wouldn't have to, because for an approach like that which focuses on drawing in tourists, all viewers are replaceable. Half of the 100k that watched her last stream won't show up to the next, but they'll be replaced by 50k who never watched her before in the following stream, and then never watch her again.

This is the model of the 'Fairweather Streamer', who can pull a million views or somehow fail to break 100k views depending on the day, they fluctuate hard because they have no real fans, just a fuckton of subscribers.

>>25414549
i'm a bit hesitant to call this completely shenanigans free. She's very entertaining, but she's not triple king's ccv entertaining.

>>25414604
No, but stop spamming 2 or 3 shorts each day, put more time between shorts and try to come up with something better

>>25414486
When did shorts views matter? Its not like you'll get lots of money from it. Let her do what she wants anon.

>>25414705
I doubt more time would help

Kobo inclining phase for the nth time

>>25414486
She will have some screws loose after returning due to exposure to constant low numbers from her shorts. She will be menhera for her nousagis in an attempt to maintain their attention on her

>>25414748
holy hell, first kaela with LOL admin and now kobo, ID gen 3 truly is the strongest gen

>>25414692
Any proof for that?
Let's say she draws in 70k tourists each stream. So if she can still get 60k+ after 30 streams, your hypothesis is wrong right?

>>25414839
what will Zeta get?

>>25414699
she won't stabilize at 90k, it'll probably be about 40k to 50k

>>25414895
40k is still enough for her to get the most golds minus one or two here or there

>>25414878
dunno, she needs to find her niche first to do that

>>25414878
idk, zeta doesn't really play any e-sports game.

>>25414844
No, that just means she's rotating through them. But I doubt she'll be that consistent or stable. She'll either fluctuate between 100k+ to sub-10k, or drop down to around 20k~ on a permanent basis when she starts actually filtering her viewers

This is just from observations about how other streamers of that type work, they have a huge range and no consistent audience

>>25411320
If they were any good at scouting they'd have more strong talents instead of a massive tail of low view vtubers.

shouldnt kobo reclining also according to this retards logic?

>>25414417
Many people do this already. It's called the "lowest common denominator".

>>25415016
Kobo is ID. There's no point arguing over how shit works for them

>>25412789
What a stupid take.

>>25414878
Zeta is too dumb to be good at any game

>>25414878
My cock

Glad that we have arrived at the bargaining part Holobros. The next two steps of coping with grief might not be easy, but it's one that we will take together.

https://youtu.be/Gzv3OyszZJ8
Sana announcement in 17 hours

>>25414961
No if she's one dimensional she can't rotate her viewers
>This is just from observations about how other streamers of that type work,
who? Doc or Lugwid don't have sub 10k viewers

>>25415016
>>25415045
Kobo comes pre-filtered, because she's ID. None of her viewers are tourists.

>>25414839
So the ranking currently is ID3 >> ID1 >>>>> ID2?

>>25415163
it's probably gonna be her birthday announcement

>>25415163
graduation??

>>25414961
This anon knows. I agree with him.

>>25415198
currently, yes.
might be different when ID2 get their 3D and concert.

>>25414895
She's either incredibly tourist heavy or "sleeping" Niji/whatever fans are interests got reignited enough to check out the hype. Overall, despite her meteoric subgrowth, she's shedding viewers a bit faster than she's making them so a lot of that CCV could go up in smoke over the next month. It's possible she could end up even lower than that unless she improves her hooks.

>>25415180
are you implying that Kobo CCVs aren't bigger than other holoIDs but they appear that way because she's not getting culled?

>>25415162
> you're at the denial phase

It seems Salome is just went really viral in Japan. Stores are now using her as a selling point.
https://twitter.com/ajv224obirobiro/status/1532576282718146562

>>25415263
you think 3D and concert will work when all of them are mogged in singing by every ID1?

>>25415263
idk man, i feel like reine is the only one that will shine if they do get their 3D concert

>>25415016
ID market is incredibly underdeveloped and not well understood for vtubers yet. People aren't going to be able to tell you much of anything about it.

>>25415281
No, I'm just implying all ID besides Kobo suck and deserve their low numbers

>>25415204
Probably. It is less than two weeks out.

>>25415310
yes.
>>25415315
anya's singing is quite good too. Ollie though...
well, she's cutesy so it's alright.

People here flaunting Salami like the second coming of Christ forgetting how easily big numbers go away. Gura, that Cookie girl with a gazillion subs, they all come down because this is and will always be a niche market unless something huge happens like Gisney buying Niji or Holo.

>>25415280
She could also die in her sleep tonight
I said she'll get about 50k-60k because that's Jun's numbers and she's getting more mainstream now >>25415294

>>25415163
Farewell Sananana

>>25415310
Anya is a singing powerhouse. Her phony is better than Suisei and Chima.

>>25415016
Probably, but her numbers aren't as absurd as Salami
90-100k average ccv vtuber is absurd

>>25415374
Gura is still the most popular vtuber in the world

>>25415396
she's good but /vt/ is still the only place that talks about her

>>25414059
For one hour
She is barely one month in and I doubt any of us here have clairvoyance to see her future

>>25415294
I'm blind and don't see Salome there?

>>25415455
It's a shit post

>>25414811
What kind of bait is this? If anything she is become more and more girly (which honestly I didn’t expect)
The one who is going menhera is ironically Marine

>>25415455
Salami now owns the word desuwa, don't you know that?

>>25415455
EoP bait

>>25415455
it's the oherbdesuwa

>>25415294
A store owner deciding to do that is their prerogative, not indicative of a chain using her. Tower Records Laketown has a shop that goes out of its way to promote Watame.
https://twitter.com/TOWER_Laketown/status/1523506503919218688
Taking a picture of one store means nothing at all.

>>25415294
Just like any viral thing, her virality will be less effective the more she streams

>>25415377
One store means nothing. >>25415542

>>25415452
she did something unprecedented
that's why people are talking about her

>>25415377
Nah see, the thing is, she's inevitably going to reduce her numbers by doing the standard niji things, like collabs with males and playing Apex or something, which the average tourist has zero interest in

At that point, she becomes a normal streamer, and the only thing that matters is how well she can make the audience that isn't instantly filtered stay to watch

>>25415573
I'm waiting for the hymen reveal pictures

>>25415571
You could check out her twitter engagement or her fan art numbers
Honestly I can't see why she can't end up being as popular as Jun

>>25415344
Ogey

>>25415573
By abusing bots and viewfarms? Is that unprecedented?

>>25415417
Based on what metric?
>inb4 you can't measure popularity
Then how do you say she's the most popular

>>25415642
> new Fotm Fomo hot stuff gets lots of engagement
Wow!! This has never happened before!!

>>25415630
>she's inevitably going to reduce her numbers by doing the standard niji things, like collabs with males and playing Apex or something, which the average tourist has zero interest
???
That's literally what I said
But if you think she'll be a sub 10k then you're quite delusional

Salome's ccv will plummet to the ground when she starts to collab with other nijis. Feel free to grudgepost me. Unless she does the lize thing of minimizing male collabs she'll be dead by next year.

>>25415374
If course she will but the question remains
How far can she reach before be fucked by Susan?

>>25415668
VOD views?

>>25415642
Jun has been around a long time and while Salami could, it's really too early to conclude where she's going to end up. It's been less than two weeks/under 10 short streams total. We don't know enough about the people watching her either.

What the hell was Fauna thinking playing this tripe way out of her regular timeslot. There must've been a better game.

Ihe olgh sketiyug?

Okay now for real. I'm just shitposting, Salome is pretty cool and I wish her lots of success. Competition is healthy and she's not taking viewers away but rather bringing in new ones. We need more chuubas like her.

Whether you watch a 2view or Salome remember to support her well and enjoy it for as long as it lasts.

>>25415689
why would she collab with other Nijis?
She doesn't follow any Niji
She doesn't subscribe to anyone
It's likely that she will keep the collabing very minimal

>>25415833
preach, this is good for both company

>>25415852
is there a niji that has never collabed apart from company wide events?

>>25415552
>Hololive counters Salome with their own solo debut, but in order to maximize it's power, they take the viral memes that made Salome so powerful in her debut month and concentrate them into a single stream
>The new Holo's debut is also an endurance stream that is also a graduation stream, on top of that it's a collab stream and also a karaoke stream and also an event stream because it's happening at the same time as a convention
>They're expected to host the stream for the entire duration of the event, 72 hours continuously without any breaks, literally pissing in bottles and sleeping under the desk is part of their kayfabe
Would you?

>>25415852
She might go the Leos Vincent route and only subscribe to someone you have interacted with

>>25415833
>IPO scam ?
IPO scam

>>25415903
>literally pissing in bottles and sleeping under the desk
kek

>>25415833
Nah, I hope she crashes and burns. She has quickly risen up the ranks and become my most hated vtuber ever.

>>25415954
They're selling them afterwards for the ringobros

>>25415957
>I hate her because she's popular
do bronies really?

>>25415954
Salome showed her guts on stream. That's the kind of strength needed to reach the new peak of the Vtubing world. Are you so cowardly you wouldn't piss in a bottle and let the microphone pick it up to attract viewers?

>>25415995
Yes

>>25416020
When will salami show her pubes on stream…

>>25411102
Iirc from KR the ones growing the most are Suha, Seffyna, Nari and Roha
This thread has the growth of all of the overseas branches in nijisanji
https://www.reddit.com/r/NijiForums/comments/v1c5ma/nijisanji_world_monthly_growth_rate/

salome debut vod will reach 3m today

>>25415995
Also because she works for the enemy. It's impossible for me to like anybody who works for Nijisanji. After all the stories and stuff we have heard come out about them if you actively work for them you are supporting all of those terrible things.

- Harassment of chuubas (both by the fans and the talents)
- Support of China despite all the awful things that entails
- Not paying chuubas

That awful company literally just had a chuuba graduate because they are so awful to work for. Seriously, fuck Nijisanji and anybody who contributes at all to them continuing to be a thing. They need to be eliminated.

>false flaggots
>people replying to false flaggots
Do /#/ really?

>>25416198
Nice falseflag
Watch streams

>>25416256
Which number do you want to discuss about today anon?

Kobo still has a chance to reach 700K before the next Monday( her timezone).
+3k in this stream

>>25416259
Nah, not a falseflag. I actually think they are awful after everything we have heard.

>>25416292
In her karaoke stream?

>>25416303
You have failed to convince me. Channel more autism, be genuine, sperg out hard enough and I'll believe it.

>>25416292
lmao no

>>25416292
Is this the best that Cover can get?

>>25415688
Anything can happen. Nobody though Leos Vincent would become a 2-3k ccv viewer after seeing his first month viewership

>>25416481
Leos never had 90k+ ccv for a week or 1m VODs

I welcome any competition unless it's from nijiEN. They don't deserve any sympathy or any recognition. They made the EN Vtubersphere to be much more insufferable than it already was.

>>25416505
Well... his first gaming stream did.

>>25414878
zeta is perfect for GFE/ASMR

>>25416583
wrong thread sapling.

>>25414719
They matter for the Algorithm.
If you get a lot of views, your high performing videos get recommend more, even old ones.

Pekora is getting less than 1/2 her daily vod views with these, so It's tanking her channel rating and gets her recommended less.

>Open numbers thread
>CTRL+F "Ame"
>4 results. 1 retard, 1 cornernfag
Shut the fuck up, stop talking about Ame.
>Close thread

>>25416570
Kaela did more GFE than Zeta ever did, Zeta feels more like a dumb dominatrix

>>25416824
Like people said, it’s better than nothing. Getting recommended less is still more preferable than no recommendations at all because there’s no stream

>>23025483
>>23025316
DIE ON THAT HILL MOTHER FUCKER
DIE ON IT

>>25416622
https://i.miss.irys.moe/

I miss IRyS

>>25416959
HOLY BASED indog grudgeposter

slow day so pulled out some old code to see where the mystery niggas are coming from
looks like mostly tourists, followed by niji watchers
less from manjisanji watchers
some holo watchers but fairly small
barely any og vtuber watcher based on that one ai graduation stream. if anyone have the 3 og kings stream chat log, i can add it for another comparison. i can't find it in usual archive places
i use that paka tube for general jp stream watcher for comparison. let me know if there's better recent big jp stream for comparison

>>25416959
Autism

>>25417037
NIJISEETHE

I wish the talents cared as much about numbers as we do.

>>25416959
Based!

>>25417033
How about a flesh streamer like Jun for crossover?

>>25416959
GO ZETA GOOOOO

>>25416959
that was me, i made the posts before Kobos rise started carrying Zeta upwards by proxy of the same branch and Zeta was already declining to 1k a day subgrowth shortly after her debut. Unfortunately the blue cunny using the gravity of her situation carried her upwards. I died on a terrible hill.

>>25416459

>>25415779
Fauna is really fighting for her life as Iroha casually overthrew her yesterday.

I'm thinking Japan is starting to reject purity and idolshit and embrace wacky whores so thats why Nijisanji is poised to destroy Hololive in the upcoming year. Salome is just the beginning, honestly. They're shaking things up while Hololive is sticking to their outdated script.

>>25417101
any recent stream i can use that would be a good representative for is audience? i could try the wedding stream maybe

>>25416880
I LOVE AMELIA WATSON SO MUCH

>>25417033
So at least 24% of her actively participating audience is plain Nijitourism. Where do the rest of them come from?

>>25417203
that's what i want to know

Kobo above Kronii?

>>25417164
I guess its time to return to bideo gaymes

>>25416880
I want an Amelia gf so bad out of all the EN gfs... Amelia > Fauna > Irys > Ina >>> Gura > Mumei > Kiara > Kronii >>> Bae > Sana >>>>> POWER GAP >>> Mori

>>25415198
Anon ID1 isn't 3 moonas

>>25416888
Are you retarded? Youtube algos prefer engagement, and it can sabotage a channel’s algo to push content that nobody watches. This is why Twitch refugees become irrelevant when they switch over, since VODs are hard dedication-filters, unless they do smart shit (Valkrae unlists all her VODs and puts them in a playlist, and she’s one of the top female streamers).

>>25417172
That's a tourism stream, you might want to cross that one out.

>>25417203
>FOTM numbers beget numbers types
>Ex-chubba watchers
>Actual new people
These three groups should help make up the rest, alongside the 5% holowatchers that are also checking out Salome.

>>25417249
ID1's average CCV is still better than ID2's average ccv

>>25416959
Indochad, I kneel ...

>>25417277
you say that when Anya an ID2 is at the very bottom

>>25417164
Retard

>>25417277
I have absolutely no fucking clue why Reine does so terrible. She has pochi design and a hot voice like wtf.

>>25417308
ID1 average ccv: 2,659
ID2 average ccv: 1,788

>>25417338
because she's like ID kronii and always plays indie debuff games and VNs

>>25417329
Grudge post me if you want you know I'm right

>>25417277
I wonder what Mikas numbers are if we take out Luxiem collabs

>>25417338
She does not appeal to the Tiktok audience of Indonesia

>>25417365
so ID1 does not outclass ID2 by that much then

>>25417277
i always love the powergap between general ID and HoloID(and NijiENs leech)

>>25417366
Nah, I'm just gonna call you a retard and won't waste my time any further

>>25417277
Wth?
Reine was under 2k?

Every time i catch a stream of hers, she's over 3k.
Guess she had a lot of 1k, given the mean value.

KOBO DESUWA MENTION
>KOBO DESUWA MENTION
KOBO DESUWA MENTION

Kobo imitating Salome on stream

>>25417391
yeah the anon should switch the powergaps. It actually looks like this.
ID3 average ccv is 4,936
ID3 >>>>>>> ID1 >>> ID1

>>25417262
Why are you even comparing pekora to a twitch refugee though?

>>25417441
HOLO LEECH
>HOLO LEECH
HOLO LEECH
>HOLO LEECH

>>25417391
1k is pretty huge by ID standard anon

>>25417441
>>25417449
>Le Indo Leech
Sad. She wishes she had Salome's numbers.

>>25417457
mistyped, meant ID2 not ID1 at the end

>>25417430

>>25417441
>>25417449
daughter mom bonding
>>25417467
kill yourself

>>25417465
Pekora compares herself to the twitch refugee, retard-san. I’m just connecting the dots.

>>25417467
>>25417482
She's a child that's hype for a girl she likes, nothing more. Not everyone has number rot

>>25417525
Proof?

>>25417529
>Indonesian
>Not number rot
/vt/ has tought me that such thing does not exist

>>25417465
Because they were 1 and 2 female streamers for a long time and compare each other, duh.

Holy shit Kobo is very fun to watch! No wonder she's pulling the numbers.

>>25417467
NIJISEETHE
>NIJISEETHE
NIJISEETHE
>NIJISEETHE

>voxposting dies down as kobo rises
>koboposting dies down as salome rose

>>25417717
Big number attract shitposter

>>25417717
vox is legitimately declining while kobo getting mogged by a JP is normal

>>25417033
Can you do a comparison between her freetalk, GTA, and RE streams? To see if we can get an idea for her retention and churn?

>>25417033
>Doesn’t have practically any holo overlap
>Barely has any Niji overlap (only 20% overlap with Melissa graduation, THE tourist spot??? Like what)
>Viewers don’t watch any of the popular vtubers
>Viewers barely overlap general tourist attractions (WWE, Startend, APEX)
Okay. Who the fuck are the viewers at this point? This doesn’t even feel like a vtuber at this point. The fandom don’t even follow vtubers like what

>>25417164
well as far as her viewer's concerned she's still a pure ojousama (no male collabs yet). Feel free to post that again if she retains her viewers after collabing a bunch.

>>25417277
Plenty surprised Moona’s still number two. I expected Zeta to beat her but I guess she’s still ahead by a large margin.
>>25417338
Lots of debuff games.

>>25417804
I told you man, bots

kobo valo VOD prediction?

what did iofi mean by this?

>>25417995
300k++

>>25417995
1M

>>25418073
who

Guys do you have some sort of chart for stream overlap between Holo EN? Who gets the lowest? Ame?

>>25418140
is it really an overlap when only 2 to 3 streams are on?

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Peak Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
12/19/2021 187,392 Pekora 2nd Costume reveal
11/28/2021 180,499 Koyori debut
11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut
11/30/2021 175,823 Iroha debut
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut
02/23/2022 157,990 Gen 3: Rushia termination
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut
03/31/2022 147,337 Suisei 4th Anniv Live

** The Rest **

10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
01/12/2022 136,102 Pekora 3rd Birthday Live
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
03/05/2022 125,917 Miko Birthday Live #4
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday Live
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive New Year's Eve
04/17/2022 120,152 StartEnd Aqua POV
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke
04/27/2022 119,056 Marine Set Sail
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
12/11/2021 112,093 Gura 2nd Costume reveal
05/28/2021 111,501 Miko 3D Outfit Live (NEW)
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
05/27/2022 110,076 Miko WWE2K Voice Over (NEW)
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
11/30/2021 108,611 HoloX first full collab
03/20/2022 107,423 Holo Fes Day 2
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
03/19/2022 105,756 Holo Fes Day 1
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2021 101,868 Noel 2nd Costume reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

** Inaccessible **
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smash Brothers
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary

** Instances (3x or more)
5: Marine
4: Coco, Miko
3: Gura, Pekora

Now, think about it: isn’t it marvelous that the explosion of EN vtubers, at least on YouTube, came from Japanese style “cute girls doing cute things” instead of from “EN streamers, but with an avatar”?

The fake rivalries, the scripted “ownage”, the juvenile pranks and the forced drama that comes from that segment would quickly kill the hobby.

Seffyna over 1k again today without any raids. Inclining.

>>25418346
EM streamers are cringe and retarded

>>25418326
>Inaccessible
Gotta move this one to that list too
>11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke

besides Fubuki, Hacchama and Kobo, has anyone else in Hololive mentioned Salome yet?

>>25417804
The Chinese are botting her and setting up view farms. They have the means and the motive to want to make Hololive look bad. Her viewership is literally fake.

>>25418402
watame

>>25418423
still in the denial phase huh

>>25418402
I think Risu and Zeta said desuwa

>>25418402
Finally, age of unity

Nijibros...

>>25417789

>>25418219
No i mean on the general. I want to know which Holo EN the other fanbases mostly avoid watching.

>>25418569
How many of those streams share the same activeaudience?

>>25418507
Seems like you are the on in denial bro. The proof is in the pudding. Nijisanji's heavy concentration of Chinese fans has shown that they are more than willing to bot in the past so there is no reason to believe they aren't doing the same thing here.

>>25418379
Wait what happened?

>pekor will return after salome hype died down
she knows about salome huh

>>25418787
as in its unarchived

>>25418569
do you still get your unique chat from hololyzer?

>>25418807
Hmm, how to categorize Rushia's shit without taking out Coco's?

30k subs in 2 day, can kobo do it /#/ bros?

>>25418837
coco still has her videos, Rushia doesn't.

>>25418801
She should play more Minecraft again when she comes back

>>25417033
So what is this chart trying to prove?
I don't understand.

>>25418801
She always know
My only concern is that she ended up enjoying here carefree life so much that she forget streaming. Sound like she's having a blast doing girly things for the first time

>>25418843
Unless something abnormal happens, all signs point to no.

>>25418874
unique chatters

>>25418763
Don't worry anon, despite everything, I still think you are the best clown this board has

>>25418918
I know.
I mean what's the point?

Salome videos are getting traction for EOPs already, I saw one of her EN "meme" videos getting 104k views.
It might sound crazy, but can she incline with EOPs?

>kobo mogged the entirety of holoEN peakwise
how the fuck

Hey bros, I was wondering... What would've haachama's ccv be for her actual stream? If she peaked at 46k in 11 minutes, what would've her real ccv be like?
I genuinely didn't expect her to go past 20-25k ngl

>>25418951
Only Vox can save the en scenes.

>>25418945
Everyone can, but the question is if she willing to
JP and EN humor are pretty different, that is why you only see chuuba leaning to 1 side only

>>25418945
No. The vast numbers of EOPs watch EN vtubers. This isn't a pre-Myth world anymore.

>>25418843
She can turn her karaoke into endurance stream

>>25418940
the shared audience between them

>>25418951
HoloEN enjoys debuff content.

>>25418812
nope, these are from raw chat logs

>>25418945
Inclining with EOPs is literally the worst idea possible nowadays, look at haachama for example.
They barely watch their own EN chuubas, they're as fickle as fans cxan possibly be

>>25419008
i've seen 10k karaoke endurance by holomem ( some even failed like flare ) but 20k endurance might be way too much i think

>>25418707
total of 93 unique names are seen on all streams

>>25418569
Thanks. So if i'm reading this correctly she has high view churn but is managing to attract new people every stream? she only retained 10% of the chatters from her debut.

Can you do this for Kanata or Koyori for the same number of streams just so we have a comparison for a vtuber who has an established fanbase?

>only 11k on valorant
The recline is happening, next is going to be 8 until she stabilizes at 5, still strong but kobofags can finally fuck off

>>25419082
it'll probably be around 10-15k. it's possible.

>>25419055
But if they gets the top in Japan, where else can she go but the whole world?

>>25419085
So all streams have completely different active recurring posters? That's... not a very good sign.

Wait, what's the recurring participation rate for all unique posters? (as in, how many posted in one stream, two streams, etc.)

Does anyone think that the way Cover handled post-HoloFes3 hype was sort of bad?

>>25415957
Nice, keep seething faggot. Enjoy your filthy whore Ayame

>>25419189
Just because something exists doesn't mean she can do it.

>>25418951
>How is the one single popular ID that was on national TV and had gotten shilled by the biggest ID streamers getting numbers?
Gee I wonder anon

>>25419211
it's definitely a churn
469 stayed on for all the biohazard streams

>>25419243
More like they went all in HoloFes 3 and now their talent are out of steam
I think they saw this coming too and was fine with it

>>25419243
I don't know any of the specifics that you're thinking of anon, but not really.

Did they just reupload this? What happened?

>>25411320
anon... It's dead...

>>25419330
Is the trend towards recurring activity upwards or downwards for the active audience?