/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

who?

>>25342476

>>25342476
I'm sure her 30 fans will be fascinated to find out

>>25342626
This is like telling the homeless: "Dude just buy a house LMAO."
All it does is drive certain people to murderous rage.

>>25342626
I have a hobby, it's called vtubers and you're invading my hobby and telling me to find a different one

its literally the easiest fucking topic in the universe to create a "take" on. Noone besides psychopaths will agree that getting heavily invested into parasocial relationships and GFE is a good thing

>>25342626
>do things that will make you no longer watch vtubers and give money to women that prey off lonely males
She knows female nijis would go broke within a day if they did this, right?

This is fucking amazing, the degenaration of this is jsut too much, this fuckers who engage into teh parasocial are going against it, who the fuck they think watch streamers? if you are not a girlfriend simulator then you're a friend simulator, who the fuck watches another person having fun with their friends while you're just alone smiling like an idiot?????

I told you guys males would ruin vtubers but you didn't listened to the warning.

>>25342740
No it isnt... like at all... fwends are easy to make

>>25342746
watching streamers isnt a hobby just like being a TV watching couch potato isnt a hobby

>>25342773
>>25342800
>>25342814
The title doesn't make it sound like she'll just say "parasocial relationships are... le bad". You don't ask if something's ALWAYS bad as a clickbait title if you think that way.

>>25342776
Nyanners lost half her subscribers because she announced she had a boyfriend. NijiEN girls and Vshojos actually believe the loud progressives on their twitter feed are the ones paying their bills.
They're fucking wrong and retarded.

>>25342864
More like because she stopped streaming to move. Gift subs drop off if you dont stream constantly that's just twitch.

>>25342933

>>25342476
>Nijisanji / Zea Cornelia
Who the fuck is that I never heard of her before
>Indonesia
Oh so just another irrelevant SEAmonkey

>>25342626
The weirdest thing is people like this always act like chad/stacy but most of them look like garbage in real life. Reminds me of ina calling her fans losers. It's quite literally just one lucky dice roll and a nerd becomes a star and suddenly goes full Ronald Reagan thinking they're better than every other nerd.

>>25342476
These bitch should learn from Salome on how to be entertaining instead of whatever the fuck this shit is

>>25342626
everyone getting mad at this realizes this is from literal months ago and isn't talking about parasocial relationships right

>>25342740
>just don't be poor lol
/biz/ gave me the best advice, now I just have to figure out how to practice it.

>>25342626
Fuck she's malepilled damn attagirl

>>25342800
the cucksanji experience

Why are you all assuming she'll be against parasocial relationships and pre-emptively getting angry?
What will you do if she voices support for them?

>>25342838
>watching streamers isnt a hobby just like being a TV watching couch potato isnt a hobby
yes it is, watching vtubers, playing video games, watching anime - all can be hobbies. Dumb boomer

yes, being a kek is also a hobby

>>25343139
If she adresses that all streamers are by default some kind of parasocial and that vox and finana are being retards I'll be oshin'g this bitch and donate 300$ every stream.

>>25343238
Im not a boomer, Im only 27

https://marshmallow-qa.com/zea_cornelia
She's taking questions on the topic.
Why not ask her to address your concerns? She could be the first big corpo VTuber to do so.

>>25342773
nijinigger faggot

>>25343416
Zoomers don't understand the difference between millennials and actual baby boomers.

>>25343513
I only watch hololive vtubers

>>25342476
LITERALLY WHO?????? IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHILL YOUR 2 VIEW INDIE CAN YOU FAGGOT AT LEAST LINK THE CHANNEL????

>>25343646
I think OP was assuming you could read. Guess he put too much faith in (you).

>>25343646
its a nijinigga anti-parasocialists

>>25342626
Enna you have both of the former and you're a miserable cunt. So what now?

>>25342740
>>25342746
>>25342800
>>25342814
>>25343287
>>25343358

>>25343416
you think like one, stop larping as 4channer Enna,

>>25343139
idk maybe because she's from niji?

>>25343772
If companies are a hivemind I fear for what Mori spells for Hololive.

>>25343845
you had me until you tried to convert people into NTR/shipfags

>>25343845
The shipping shit invalidates the entire thing.

>>25342956
Sorry he's absolutely right. You're not even wrong that having a boyfriend should be a debuff but we'll have to wait until regular streaming resumes to see how much. Same thing as Veibae, people say she reclined because of soda but she had the Shylily yab + hiatus at the same time so who the fuck knows how much is attributable to bf.

>>25343845
Shipping real life people is not something a man does.

>>25343475
Yeah I'm actually very surprised a corp Vtuber would take questions from the public on a subject that can only be described as the biggest minefield in the industry.
I hope she tackles actual difficult questions, it would make the thing interesting.
Obviously I also hope she doesn't just Finana it and say "parasocial bad".

>>25342626
>stop being parasocial
>says someone that relies on parasocial people to have a job

>>25344679
Enna wasn't talking about parasocial relationships there to begin with. Those chat comments are from December.

>>25342626
>be happy
I don't think I can

>>25343845
left should gore that shipfag with his horn.

>>25344679
They don't though? Vox made plenty of money on the stream right after calling them out.

>>25343475
I sent her a question.
I won't post it yet in case Nijisanji management is lurking, but I hope she gives it serious consideration.

>>25344872
Yeah I'm sure they watch Vox for his FNAF talk.

>>25344888
I just saw it and showed her and we both laughed at it.

It's interesting that she's giving this talk at all but I wonder what Layla has to say about it too.

>>25344872
The same way that Rushia still has a ton of still parasocial fans, Vox still has a ton of parasocial fans even after getting shit on by him, hell they probably like that because yumes are actual masochists

>>25344872
mentally and emotionally damaged peopel arent known for their good decision making skills. they're probably thinking if they give him money then they wont be included in the group hes yelling at

>>25343139
Nobody except no names on 4chan has publicly defended parasocial relationships

>>25345136
She could be the first. She's even accepting Marshmallows on the topic so you could explain to her how it could be a good thing.

She's retarded, but I hope she shits on Finana and Reimu so we know the rest of the company doesn't like the ENs

>>25345136
The only person I saw defending them at one point was Fallenshadow but she's mentally ill and probably just saying what people want to hear too so she doesn't really count.

>>25345136
Yeah because no sane person wants to get lynched by Youtube comment, twittards or redditors even though they know parasocialfags are right.

>>25342476
>Hating on ParaRel.
>They think they are entertaining enough for a viewers to stick with them.

>>25345281
She never hated on them.

>>25345303
I'll give her a chance on this one

>>25345303
We all know she's going to side with her coworkers retard.

>>25345248
And those same people are horribly unaware that it applies to them too. Saw some dude saying "touch grass and get bitches" a quick look at his account and you can tell he doesn't have a job, lives in his moms attic, and collects anime figurines. It's just losers shitting on losers in some stupid social hierarchy system where they go "I'm better than them! See!" Any chance they can get.

>>25345386
She's never interacted with the ENs. Why should she feel obligated to lick their asses?

>>25345413
she did tho

>>25345413
She's already collabed with ENs

>>25345413
anons here want her to straight up call every EN a niggerfaggot, otherwise she's bad

>>25345136
Because it's a difficult subject to tackle and almost nobody seems to understand the actual meaning of the word.
Moreover, a vtuber has few reasons to actually show this positively or foster such relationships, as it would be seen as some kind of abuse of power of whatever the fuck twitter/reddit is into these days, since the entertainer/corporation are the ones to profit from it.
It's actually a difficult topic to talk about for anyone that is actually in the public eye, hence why only no names would defend parasocial relationships.
Looking forward to hear what ZEA has to say.

>>25345505
>>25345537
Just looked it up. Guess she's collabed with Pomu once? Pomu's never weighed in on this topic herself though. I still don't think that just because they're co-workers they all need to express the same opinions.

>>25343845
I'd choose the left one anytime.

>>25345542
If she's just going to parrot what other ill informed vTweeters have said then what's the point.

>>25345697
And if she doesn't?

>>25345727
Then everyone will probably come back on this thread and say "based" or some shit like that.

>>25345697
Looking at the title of the video, I don't think she'll do that. It already implies there's some doubt in the claim that parasocial relationships are "absolutely bad".

>>25342626
Wait wait wait. I just remembered. Wasn't she going gosling over the android detective from that Detroit game?

>>25346435
Yeah but she wasn't telling the actor's friends to kill themselves for interacting with him

>>25344872
yes usually crack addicts stop doing crack when you tell them to stop kek

>>25344888
>Nijisanji
>management

>>25345557
I'm going to watch to try and get shitposting ammo

>>25343845
>If she's happy, I'm happy
The guy on the right actually does sound like a massive cuck. Even completely out of context.

>>25346943
based tribalnigger

I've said this before, the relationship between streamer and viewer is parasocial in nature, there is no way around it but just like anything else in life it's only bad if you take things too far.

>>25346532
But she cried when the actor got married

>>25342773
The virgin attempting to find something he believes is real by interacting with the scum of humanity, vs
The chad who knows humanity is scum and therefore reality is no more real than fantasy, and who knows how to enjoy GFE without becoming a psycho.

>Vox tells parasocials to fuck off
>Gains subs and respect from his female fans
>Any female vtuber tells parasocials to fuck off
>Loses subs and respect from male fans
Why are men so mentally ill?

>>25351440
Women love being told what to do (and then disobeying what they're told anyway). Men hate being told what to do (and then grudgingly go along with it regardless).

>>25343799
Women are generally a hivemind.

Zea has done a presentation on parasocial relationships before but it was on facebook and most ID from what I remember.
either way shes a good person to talk about this since shes has put thought into the idea before instead of just hearing the word being used derogatorily and then basically using it like its the newest evil in the world like finana did.

>>25351440
The real question is why are western female fans such cuckqueans, this was the one and only case where chinks (and women no less) were right and based, a real once in a billion years scenario, yet your reaction was to... stand up and defend Reimu's right to cuck you??? You girls can do better than this.

>>25352015
The fuck are you talking about, she isn't a real person and Vox said she's his friend. I trust his word and let's say Vox and I really are "in a relationship" like your delusional mind likes to think. Do you not trust your partner's word? That's why you men are so pent up and angry all the time, you have trust issues and blur the line between fiction and reality. I have no problem with him talking to other women in a friend setting because in the end he comes back to me. Sorry I just can't get behind your mental illness.

>>25352596
Women will easily forget that Vox also said (you) are not, and likely won't EVER be in a relationship with him. Probably because their brains aren't well developed.

>25351440
>Something something specific situation
>Something something vague general statement
>Unsubstantiated conclusion
That being said men and women do not approach social and parasocial relationships the same way. That's all there is to it.

>>25352015
anon the answer to why theyre cuckqueens is because they can get laid if they even slightly go out of their way to get fucked.
most men dislike the idea of being cucked because the chances of them getting more pussy is low or takes more effort.

>>25352596
t. Reimu

>>25352688
Yes, I remember when he said that, what's your point? I can't actually be in a relationship with a 400 year old demon lord, dumbass. It says in the description/title of all his ASMR that it's roleplay, do you not know what that means? "Women's brains aren't fully developed" but you're the one thinking a moving drawing of a woman pretending to be an anime girl is your actual partner holy fuck skip the meds just go straight to the doctor you pathetic mentally ill incel

>25353511
Anon you're barely even trying anymore. Come on now, work for your (You)s.

Let's be real: ALL of YouTube and ALL of Twitch is predicated on parasociality. It's not just incels and it's not just GFE (or the femcel equivalent), it's the whole audience that treats the content creator as a vicarious companion. Because everyone is fucking lonely nowadays.

>>25353511
If you can't actually be in a relationship with him, why would you even consider bringing trust into the equation? Oh keep going since I know you have a childish need to always win every argument, especially if it's with a man who you perceive to be evil.

>>25354216
So are books.

>>25351440
i became a kindred after the watching, dude has balls of steel

>>25354402
He only did that because of backlash building up on twitter.

hold up I was on a business trip for 2 weeks what the fuck happened?

>>25354402
Yeah it takes balls to blame your friend for a backlash then only backpedal weakly once you get an even bigger backlash from blaming said friend.

>>25354487
the vtubing community decided to tell incels to fuck off

>>25354560
>vtubing community
>some actual whore from nijiEN and a couple actual who twitter sjw's
wow they really showed us, anyways i'm going to keep watching hololive

>>25354487
the vtubing community could not deal with the consequences of their business model.

>>25345571
I think Pomu and Kiara have a similar take on this. It's natural to form parasocial relationship and it's the job of the streamer to not get attached or allow fans to get too close but fans shouldn't be shamed for having those feelings. As much as some of these chuubas like Kiara stalk their fans, it's the fans' jobs to not let her suck them in.

>>25354487
This>>25354688

Link to the stream?

>>25354823
> shouldn't be shamed for having those feelings
I feel like this place had this discussion not too long ago. Oh right, Rushia. People (outsiders) getting pissy about anyone displaying any kind of emotion.

>>25351509
Profound wisdom.

>>25354402
Enjoy your stay and I hope you enjoy the funny FNAF monke man! Here's some of my favorite streams I recommend for newcomers:

Resident Evil 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bmdynJVnps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5DmlECq__0

Spore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TbfisHBh88

FNAF Lore because it's just a 2 hour long shitpost and it's hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFX2v1DhnWo

And of course the shitpost that started it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-sPQf3HzQs

mf's will learn a new word and use it every fucking minute even though this shit doesnt exist
>i like these people i watch
>whoa cool it with the parasocial relationship, pal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwJmgCowN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwJmgCowN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwJmgCowN4
on in 15 minutes

>guys parasocial relationships are bad okay
And then one day later they went back to their BFE and GFE streams.

>>25356395
I hope this doesn't end up being a lukewarm disappointing take (also known as the Critikal approach).
Here's hoping hard questions are chosen.

>>25344872

most people on this board are uncapable of telling the diference between a BFE/GFE roleplay and harassing people online, so they are mindbroken now, please understand, Vox even said on that stream that he will still roleplay BFE while still denying the parasocials who harass people, but this board is nothing but threadwatchers who want to spread drama, nothing will change them.

this is literally that LETS IMPROVE SOCIETY - SILLY OF YOU TO SAY THAT AS YOU LIVE IN THAT SOCIETY meme all over again.

>>25357259
Let's be honest anon, society won't be improved by anything that is said on twitter by vtubers or anyone else.
I do agree with the rest. We truly do live in a society.

>>25354293
Because I made a hypothetical situation to play along with your delusion, doesn't mean I actually think he's my real boyfriend. C'mon I know you understand english well so there's no way you couldn't pick up on that.
>with a man who you perceive to be evil.
Actual schizo talk, where did I even remotely say anything about him being evil? Your mentally ill levels are off the charts.

She has a whole powerpoint.

>>25357503
she did discussion a year ago on facebook, also with a powerpoint

hana's corn waifu is pretty cute i should watch her more often

>>25357503
I'm actually impressed to see a vtuber actually put some amount of work and research into what they are talking about for once. She could have easily made a quick "cash-in" stream with the contreversy of the day.

>>25345571
she also collabed with Enna and Millie

>>25357503
Is she a salarywoman?

>>25356137
lmfao fr fr

>>25354560
>he cares about what twitter and r*ddit thinks
Go back.

>and even fictional characters
wait so this means that waifus (as in the w*zardchan definition of the word) fall under the term parasocial relationship?

seems like she's actually done quite a bit of research on the topic

This is actually interesting, what the hell.

>>25357828
Technically yes. Why do you think /a/ considers real waifufags to be schizo

You heard it here. Parasocial relationships can be good!

>>25357503
I love my corn wife

When can she get to the part where she throws NijiEN under the bus?

>>25357921
Based. I might give her a sub

>>25357828
if I'm being pedantic technically the term for that one is parasocial interaction, not relationship

>>25357958
don't bother watching if you're expecting her to act preachy or drop hot takes, ZEA just likes to talk about stuff

>>25344768
lol

>>25357921
Probably kept many anons from an heroing.

is /vt/ finally realizing corn lady is actually based?

>>25358054
Zea is awesome.

>>25358029
Doesn't matter what she says exactly since I can always lie.

>>25357921

>>25357921
oh no no no no finana

>>25358054
Her background knowledge is good, I'll wait and see what she makes of it before I kneel.

ZEA SEX

>>25357921

This seems fairly well thought out

>>25357921

oh no, but they can also be bad!

its almost like everything in the world is gray instead of black and white!

>>25358286
Baby r*pe is a gray area?

>>25358286
How grey is the dick inside your mom's hairy pussy smartpants?

This is very comfy, I already like her regular talking streams but I think ZEA should do more essays

>>25358286
Honestly this is what made me annoyed, the fact that everyone was just treating it as black and white and ignoring the subsection of fans that take it too far.

I've only known ZEA as Hana's wife (back when I watched coffee lady).
I never realised that corn lady was this great.

>>25358363
I want her to talk about stock market

>>25358337
Your mom said the same thing, but you were too young to remember.

https://files.catbox.moe/1wm0pk.mp4

OH NO BROS SHE SAID IT YABAI YABAI

Is she a psychologist or something? Why does she know so much about this

>>25357259
If vchuubas are retarded enough to do shit that's guaranteed to attract schizos like their shitty BFE/GFE streams then it's their own fault if they get mogged by schizos. Don't blame parasocial shit on other people if your deliberately encouraging it to keep milking money out of desperate lonely losers.

>>25358286
If only NijiEN could have used some nuance instead of posting evocative statements meant to get an emotional response out of reactionaries in the name of getting clout!

>>25358337
>>25358349
Are you people actually mad about learning things aren't black and white? Wasn't expecting the literal schizos to show up

>>25358423
she did a lot of psych talks in the past, she might have a psych background
but this level of research don't really require a degree I think, some local circles have the same level of material in their local con talks

>>25358454
You said everything is a gray area but that's not true obviously.

>>25358423
She had some pretty interesting discussion about similar issues during and after playing Needy Streamer

>>25358520
*most things are in a gray area
happy now pedantbro?

>>25358437
God I hate the ENs, they make the rest of Niji look bad.

>>25358520
And you had a violent reaction over a very small part of what he said, I guess replies on 4chan aren't gray either

>>25354479
>>25354503
>blame your friend for a backlash then only backpedal weakly once you get an even bigger backlash from blaming said friend
Wtf this actually happened??

>>25351608
/vt/ makes a lot of sense now

>>25358572

Most of ID and JP loves EN though, all the recent minecraft collabs like taka tower have shown how much they like each other recently.

>>25358437
Examples?
Specially from anyone who isn't the resident dumbass

>>25358572
>>>/jp/

>>25358395
She grew a whole lot compared to her early career, top tier ex-ID on many aspects

Judging by what she said and how she related these attachment styles to parasocial relationships I'd say most of /vt/ falls under anxious-ambivalent.

>citing wikipedia in a research presentation

unbased

>>25358658
>He fell for corporate mandated collabs.

>>25358708
I know she's doing well but you're still just watching a vtuber stream anon

>>25358437
To be fair, it was just Finana and Vox.

and your next statement is going to be "it doesnt count!"

>>25358715
What sort of corporate mandated Minecraft collabs don't include tours of the EN server?

>>25358686
It seems like a lot of people who become vtubers belong to the third category

>>25358715
I wish this was real, it would help some dummies like hana a lot

>>25358775
Who are both very young and pretty dumb.

>>25358715

Nijisanji originally planned just for ID/KR/JP/World servers to connect, but everyone was so eager to meet nijiEN that they constantly contacted selen/finana to give them access to the EN server, just so you know.

>>25358708
Normally I'd let it slide but it's a [citation needed] one
But hey it's not exactly the main point of the talk so I still let it slide

she is talking passionately it's cute

Imagine unironically being a nijinigger.

>>25358918

>>25358794
None of those tweets are evocative or reactionary, and they're coming from people who made their position on the matter really obvious a long time ago, it would be better if you just admitted finana was the only one in your mind

>>25342816
Not if you're mentally ill with 0 social skills. i.e. most people that watch vtubers.

She's talking quite in depth but then she'll say something wrong in her ESL accent and I'll be reminded that English isn't her first language.

>>25358571
Yes.
>>25358603
>violent
You sound like leftist faggots calling facts they don't like 'violence'.

>>25358918
Imagine hating something but keeping tabs on everything they do

>>25358983

actually I support what hana is saying here, I was just posting evidence for that one guy who thinks only EN is doing this and makes the rest of branches look bad when hana did it too.

And the final conclusion.

>>25359029
Quiet, you. That's the endearing part.

>>25359083
You know what... i will subscribe and watch the VOD later

>>25359048
One of those replies went straight to baby rape, don't act like I'm the one overreacting

>>25359083
common sense? in this day and age?

>>25359029
her ESL accent and her laugh are cute, i see no issue

>>25359052
>>25358982
Cope nijinigger.

>>25359154
Seethe, you still opened the thread and will keep doing so because nijisanji lives rent free in your head

>>25359138
That's was me. That's called reductio absurdum. I used an extreme example to prove your broad statement false.

>>25358775
Vox's take was reasonable, he recognized that parasocial inclinations are a thing but you can't exactly tolerate schizos sending death threats, as far as I could tell. Finana's just a fucking retard inserting herself where she doesn't belong because she's a spoil e-brat who can't read the room.

>>25358884
Except many EN tours didn't happen because people never got whitelisted

>>25359200
The only one seething is you nijiniggers. I'm laughing at you retards.

>>25359083
Alright. You listen to the corn woman

>>25359250
I thought that was just Hakase, I don't remember anyone else not getting whitelisted.

Don't want to be a numberfag, but she deserved more viewers for this. Obviously it's because she's not EN (she was ID before the merger)

>>25359248
Be silent homoman

>>25359250
That's on finana, even other ENs had to wait when they opened the server because she's a dumbass

>>25359347
>manjisanji
>calling anyone a homo
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAH

>>25359343
Twittards WANT to be angry at something, preferably in 120 characters or less.

>>25359343
It's a hot topic, so she might get clipped which could boost a bit.

>>25359343
She's nearing 400 viewers. I'm guessing that's higher than her usual ccv.

it's about time chuds got told off!!!!!!!!

twitters new crusade, just normies ruining a thing like usual

>>25359343
> but she deserved more viewers for this
Sorry bro, Twitterniggers wants a spicy opinion on calling parasocial people losers, not giving a common sense opinion
But i agree

>>25359474
But she's defending parasocial relationships...

>>25359238
Yeah, Vox said it was fine to like him so long as you didn't think it was real. And it's NOT real, so obviously thinking it is just delusional.
Finana's tweet was too general for my taste, but using "parasocial" to mean specifically the obsessive delusional type of parasocial relationship (as opposed to "any kind of one-sided relationship") is common enough that I can't blame her for picking up that definition.

>>25359343
I hope she can sort out her schedules to take advantage of the merge to grow her audience, seffyna grew a lot while being mostly popular with the EN audience and not speaking english at all

>>25359494
oh

>>25359506
Finana is kinda dumb, she's the type who will just spout any nonsense to cheer up her team without putting any thought behind it

with each passing month this hobby gets worse

>>25358658
That's cool and all, but they still act like assholes.

Didn't read this thread but Zea is cute

>>25359713
>all because a Latina went for Latina aka full retard
Dios Reimu, que Colombiana pelotuda

>>25359713
much like parasocial relationships, this hobby gets worse when there's too many other people involved. I'm happy for my oshi that other people are giving her money but it sucks when her chat is just a blur of idiots.

>>25342740
>just b urself man

Nobody here would form parasocial relationships with a brand, right?

>>25359083
I was about to write something mean without watching the stream because I always assume any vtuber that talks about this stuff these days just wants to shit on her fans but for once I was wrong. I hope there's more like her out there somewhere.

>/vt/ fell for this dramaloop and ended up actually liking a NijiID vtuber
I think this whole board just got played.

>>25359223
And yet the moment someone else uses an extreme counter claim you call them a faggot. Must've touched a nerve, huh?

>>25359903
Zea was the real Lex Luthor after all...

Zea has a husband!!!!!!!!!

>>25359903
SEA is the strongest race in heart and in autism.

She already married bros...

>>25359903
>Only read /vt/
>Become retarded and get angry at shadows on the wall
>Actually watch streams
>Things aren't so bad
Whoa....

What a biSh!

>>25350977
As much as people like to shit on Enna for being a bitch, I think she would genuinely be empathetic at someone being sad their idol oshi got married or something (or even one of her fans sad about that with her, if it happened). She just also wouldn't hesitate to shit on someone who was rude to her over it. Which might feel contradictory to some people, but it's really not. One's your feelings, and one's making it other peoples' problem.

>>25359865
yeah of course not......hehehe......heh.

>>25359945
>>25359981
yeah, me

>>25359903
>ZEA tricked /vt/ into watching a stream
She's so powerful

>>25359473
>normies

>>25358998
I'm mentally ill enough that the only real friends I have were either
a. I said I wanted to die and they DM'd me because they were concerned
or
b. They said they wanted to die and I DM'd them because I was concerned
and even I manage to have a few of them.

>>25359506
Finana's shot was too general but I won't blame her for being upset at her friend getting death threats. Feesh is still impulsive and dumb though.

>>25359903
and it's all thanks to vox/ finana

I kneel

>>25359920
I'm totally calm and a little sleepy. You want me to pretend to be upset?

>>25359865
Surely no one would do that on this board, right...?

>>25359903
Maybe the real dramaloop was the ZEA we made along the way.

>>25359865
Hololive 5ever!!!!h8

Take me back to late 2019/early 2020, all this shit is wack.

>>25360123
You've already spoken for yourself, no need to pretend.

>>25360167
It's simple, just make sure to do better quality control on who you hire to be a vtuber and keep their reins held tight under heavy management that prevents them from being too spicy on twitter.
But I guess that's impossible when you're busy shitting out a new wave of vtubers every other week.

>>25360167

Towa was already getting crucified by parasocials for leaking male voice during the early 2020s bro...

>>25360167
>Take me back to late 2019/early 2020
Why the fuck would you want to go back to the point of no return into endless wackness

>>25360283
You if want to enjoy a fantasyyou already have a whole company for it, just hope they never break the illusion

Damn I'm actually impressed that she chose to ask questions that are not easy instead of deleting them into oblivion.

Zea is pretty cute. How often does she speak English? Might start watching her more

>>25360394
answer* not ask
I think her charming ESL is rubbing off on me.

>>25360394
I really don't envy her manager, who must be very nervous

>>25360447
about 80%

>>25360452
She’s an ex-id. I don’t think the managers pay attention to them much

>>25360452
Her manager probably doesn't even understand her streams

>>25360394
She's small enough she can kind of shrug it off with "well this doesn't really apply to me." Someone like Vox who very clearly does have these types of fans, and a lot of them, and obviously encourage that level of parasocial interaction, would have a much more difficult time with that question.

>>25360452
No one in nijisanji is on a tight leash like this

My question came up. She gave a staunch "yes" answer and compared it to otome games.

Sounds like GFE is hallal after all.

>>25360495
Good enough for me. Thanks bro, I’ll be watching this corn girl more

>>25360614
and highlighted the importance of not being delusional

>>25360614
BASED
A
S
E
D

>>25360526
Wasn't exactly this what prompted his rant stream? He was dismissive of the problem and his fans got mad and demanded a more direct response

Zea is indirectly burning Vox now

Are you people actually watching a stream, or is this all a LARP?

>>25358054
>>25358178
I'm kneeling

>>25360732
She has 400 viewers, it's probably about 4X her normal audience.

>>25360614
You framed exclusively on the people who are mature enough to consume this kind of content so sure, I see no problem, the problem are the ones who aren't

>>25360720
I doubt Vox and her will ever make any form of contact

>>25360310
Because that was when I started watching, and it was all good times.

i dont care. my oshi is my girlfriend

seethe

>Finana fileted and fried

Finana indirectly roasted...

>>25360769
she gets about 240 these days, so it's more like 1.75

So we're shilling zea now? It's about time, HoloID gen 4 when?

>>25360732
Yes, this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwJmgCowN4
>>25360720
Not really. Vox has always labeled his stuff RP. He should've put his foot down about people being delusional much earlier, but he never really pretended it was real either.

>>25360769
actually its about 2x the usual

>>25360826
>>25360833
What did she say? I want something good.

>>25342626
I've seen her roomate, she doesn't have the power to be this haughty. She'd be that 4/10 asian girl in the nerd group

>>25360732
yeah yt doesn't have a stream duration time, wtf is this shit

>>25360909
ugly people have friends and hobbies too anon, you literally said group

>>25360925
Need to have a rewind script or the streamer needs to enable rewind on their streams.

>>25360614
of course it's "possible". It's also possible to eat nothing but fast food and still be healthy. Most people aren't, though.

Let's go young one.. you are too good for that company... join us

>>25360885
She just said it's dumb to talk shit about parasocial relationships if you're a streamer because that's the default state of your interaction with your audience.

>>25360795
Well, that's good I guess. I dunno if it was all good times even for you guys though. Things have only gotten gayer and gayer since 2017 and now we're here.

>>25361014
This should be good enough to imply she's taking shots at Finana. So much for Nijisanji unity.

>>25360826
>>25360833
Does Millie still give wet kisses to donos?

>>25361009

>>25361112
In ASMR streams, yes

>>25361094
Finana doesn’t care about the other branches. She got friendly with a KR and ditched her because she’s not big enough

She has a Hololive mindset, she could be the perfect candidate for gen 4

It's funny that ZEA is being so kind while her chat can't hardly feign sympathy.

>>25360909
I think she's really cute, but no need to be this butthurt just because someone you don't even watch think you're dumb for pretending the anime streamer is your girlfriend, just don't act retarded about it and there's no problem in it

>>25361009
RECRUIT HER PLEASE

>>25361311
>>25361301
>>25361009
She will at moona level if she joined Hololive

>>25361094
Finana doesn't know IDs exist.

>>25361307
Hope she sees this bro

>>25361094
It's literally the topic of this whole stream, I don't see why you think it's directed to finana

>>25361394
your english is moona level

>>25361254
>>25361408
Even better.

>>25361187
Gotta admit, that's GFE fuel. ASMR streams from chuubas generally do that.

>She is ok with you being in love with your oshi while improving your life thanks to her
>Why stop? If it is helping you!
Thanks ZEA

>>25361529
proud of you anon

>>25361254
Its not about numbers because she never tried to collab with JP members.

>live for the you that lives to support your oshi

BASED BASED BASED

>>25361488
Millie literally don't speak on her ASMR streams while shitposting nonstop on the chat, I don't want to imagine the kind of poor fucker who would see millie as GFE while she's offering herself as a onahole to other fanbases

>>25361529
live for the you who enjoys your oshi
-Kamina Cornelia

>Live for yourself so you can enjoy your oshi's content
No zea this isnt the better mindset, this is the CORRECT mindset. Thank you for being this based

>>25361254
I don't think Finana is smart enough to be that calculating.

This is my first time watching ZEA. Is she always this based?

>>25361614
I don't have any real relationship experience.

>>25361666
Yes, she does a lot of talking streams and they're very comfy

>>25361614
Veibae of all people had unicorns. The whole soda thing was pretty funny because of it.

>>25361684
Talking and Singing are her main strengths
Even her gaming streams are usually talk heavy and she chooses games that fit her strength

oh no bots

>>25361666
her humor is a bit peepeepoopoo which can either be a plus or a minus depending on your tastes
if you don't like it at least she doesn't whip it out all the time

>>25361744
True ID idol
>Better than mika?
Better than mika

>>25361593
Most JPs don’t speak English, but Hari can. She already got friendly with her. Finana drew art for Hari and she still uses it to this day. Finana led her on with friendship, and then never talked to her again

>>25361730
I guess literally anyone can have their own unicorns, but my point is that millie herself isn't farming them

>>25361730
Actual porn stars have unicorns. They're fine if you get railed by 6 black dudes a few times a week but will get super upset if they find out you're dating someone.

>believe in the you who believes in his oshi

I got tricked into watching an ID and I liked it

she genuinely has a cute laugh though can we agree

>>25361815
Hari is KR but the point still stands

>>25361815
I won't complain about finana not interacting with hari, but I wish she made other friends on EN to push her to make more EN content

>>25361815
hari is busy with school and streams like once every 7-14 days.

>>25361815
The more I learn about Finana, the worse she looks. I know she's immature but she's just a shitty person on top of it.

>>25361871
The ttgl watchalong is fresh on her mind

Did your question get answered anon?

Listen to Zea’s singing
https://youtu.be/MvO4O4c1SNU
https://youtu.be/TWNPD3681U0
https://youtu.be/sY27n2MxWGY

This makes me think that Ollie has a parasocial relationship with her viewers

>>25361877
IDs can be based sometimes. Reine might be my favorite Holo at this point, and this stream is putting Zea over a good chunk of NijiEN for me.

>>25361948
Finana is a real life mesugaki, not the ideolized anime version of it.

>>25361948
She has her charm but overall she's quite dumb and shallow

>>25362027
That seems like a description of anon

>>25361815
My purple dragon is friend with her now!

>>25361948
She is peak little sister experience but in the worst way

>>25362054
Their server linked together?

>>25362088
No, Selen visited the server to do the Parkour challenge

>>25362088
That's on the ID server, everyone is doing the taka tower

>>25361948
Finana is both spoiled enough to be kind of shitty and autistic enough to not realize when she's bothering other people.
She can be enjoyable, but I don't blame people who get a bit fed up with her.

>>25361948
Finana is really dumb. That's also one of her "strength", a normal person wouldn't share her sexual habits on the internet casually. Her lack of filter is mostly a complete lack of common sense.

All of early /infinity/ just got called out

>>25362088
the ID, JP, World , and KR server are linked via portals now

>>25362156
I mean, twitch streamers normally do that kind of stuff. She's just a twitch thot stuck inside a Jap corpo on YT instead of where she really belongs.

>>25361815
I know anon, im some of the fans who hate how Finana never did anything with her and just ignored her.

>>25362010
>>25362027
>>25362084
>>25362123
>>25362156
I just want a gap moe brat with a heart of gold.

>>25362301
Then look for someone else than Finana.

>>25362236
She's hardly the only Niji member to be as lewd as she is. She's on the upper end, but she still fits in.
>>25362301
Finana is genuinely sweet at times. When she knows what's going to bother people she doesn't do it, she's just too retarded to know it's going to happen if she isn't directly told. It's her fault (because she could try harder), but it doesn't mean she's just a total bitch or anything.

bros please can we talk about zea instead

>>25362301
Watch Millie.

>>25362301
That's millie

>>25362301
That description fits Millie more, but I don't know if she's a brat.

She's so cute when she's lagging...

>>25362461
corn woman based

ZEA just admit that she make this stream to educate finana about parasocial, isn't she?

>>25362426
I have.
>>25362463
>>25362539
I have been watching her recently and I like her streams.

>>25362579
Finana isn't the first one to use the word like this. She's a symptom in this case, not the problem.

>>25362579
Anon you're the only one obsessed with finana, she's dumb at all times, don't let a single tweet take over you mind

Millie is great, but recently she's been dipping into the same vshojo-tier sexual humor every stream too. Tread lightly.

>>25360614
Based anon, I kneel

>>25362662
Her period is almost over, she'll chill after that

>balanced and healthy takes
I respect Zea for this

>parasocial as an insult is no no
BASED

>>25362461
Discovering corn lady makes me not regret going on this board this week.

HOLYU FUCKING BASED

>calling out an unhealthy obsession is okay, but calling someone out just because they have strong emotions? you're lame!

IM FUCKING KNEELING

I kneel to the Corn chubba

>>25362737
Now I wish everyone on /vt/ watched this stream

>>25361009
She could've been a better Kobo

>>25362763
Everyone on /vt/ and everyone on vtuber twitter. They could all stand to learn from it.

>>25362773
You know you can watch both, right?

>>25362662
She's a devil in the streets lady in the sheets

>>25362773
But anon, the eheh.

>>25362810
Twitter is hopeless, being here is unironically better than frequenting that cesspool

>>25362763
>/vt/
>watching streams

>>25362810
>Twitter
They would try and cancel the Corn girl...

Too bad the people that need to hear this won't watch this

>>1

>>25362763
I kinda regret not watching her before, I didn't know she was that smart and insightful.

>>25362922
No Teamate or Chumbud will see this stream.

>>25362969
Anon... Zea is a vtuber...

>>25342476
> niji against GFE
> also niji supports GFE

So the all out war was civil war?

>>25363186
Sorry but I wasn't insinuating anything at all. I was just trying to reply to number 1 post but I forgot that it was a sticky

>>25363236
>number 1 post
uh what?

>>25363192
>Nijisanji is 1 person

>>25363236
based retard

>>25362301
Personally I like Finana because I can strongly relate to her personal characteristics and background, but unlike her I managed to grow out of it for the most part so it isn't very difficult to translate the intentions out of her stupid actions and still enjoy her for it.

That was more informative than I expected, great stream

Corn girl is cute and based. I’ll watch her when I can

>>25362763
her stream and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTc-ydO0Bro
should be on the sticky

I enjoyed this stream and will be looking forward to future ones

>>25361009
>wanting more non-holos to join hololive after realizing how much better they are
the state of holocucks rn lol

Oh it's this thread again.

>>25364120
They're in a parasocial relationship with Cover corporation strong enough that they CAN'T enjoy a chuuba to the fullest unless she's in their tribe.

>>25362301
that's Shion