/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>113,709: Melissa (Nijisanji)
>106,289: Salome (Nijisanji)
>68,382: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>37,595: Subaru (Hololive)
>31,369: Koyori (Hololive)
>25,171: Vox (Nijisanji)
>21,193: Kanata (Hololive)
>20,850: Ange (Nijisanji)
>20,729: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,778: Botan (Hololive)
>19,467: Patra (774 Inc.)
>18,207: Iroha (Hololive)
>17,660: Nerumero (Indie)
>16,945: Vox (Nijisanji)
>15,863: Hal (Neo Porte)
>15,550: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,389: Reid (Neo Porte)
>13,448: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,843: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,533: Watame (Hololive)
>12,531: Shu (Nijisanji)
>12,343: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,919: Flare (Hololive)
>10,962: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,146: Kobo (Hololive)
>10,130: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,072: Mio (Hololive)
>10,004: IRyS (Hololive)

>>25300692
>FINAL MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal
27) Miko (Hololive) - 110,076 - WWE 2K22 collab
28) Salome (Nijisanji) - 113,034 - Resident Evil 7
29) Salome (Nijisanji) - 127,576 - Resident Evil 7
30) Lui (Hololive) - 36,055 - Lying acting battle collab
31) Melissa (Nijisanji) - 113,709 - Graduation stream

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Miko
4x: Salome
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Axia, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Lui, Marine, Melissa, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>>25300747
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
103x: Hololive
39x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25300808
MAY 2022 SILVER
>1) 48,665: Kanae (Nijisanji) Important Announcement
>2) 25,636: Suisei (Hololive) APEX
>3) 40,203: Mio (Hololive) Golden Week Reverse Totsu
>4) 36,532: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22
>5) 43,710: Sara Nagare (PRISM) Minecraft
>6) 40,487: Subaru (Hololive) HoloGGW Group Practice
>7) 34,711: Ponpoko (Indie) 24hour stream Part 1
>8) 76,415: Hololive (Hololive) HoloGGW Tournament
>9) 38,383: Suisei (Hololive) Short Utawaku + Announcement
>10) 22,593: Subaru (Hololive) [生スバル] Drawing with fans ?
>11) 24,318: Gura (Hololive) Minecraft
>12) 30,962: Pekora (Hololive) EDF 5 Collab
>13) 69,058: Genzuki (Nijisanji) 3D Stream
>14) 37,408: Pekora (Hololive) Break Announcement
>15) 33,652: Subaru (Hololive) FF7 Remake FINALE
>16) 28,840: Korone (Hololive) The Closing Shift
>17) 41,323: Luna (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 ShubaChocoLunaTan
>18) 40,517: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>19) 34,663: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX CR Cup Day 2
>20) 49,303: Karuta (Nijisanji) 3D Reveal
>21) 39,185: Lamy (Hololive) Zatsudan to 1million subscriber
>22) 43,410: Levi (Nijisanji) 3rd Anniversary Live 3D
>23) 60,001: Roboco (Hololive) Birthday Live
>24) 41,930: Laplus (Hololive) Birthday Gyakutotsu
>25) 37,943: Mito (Nijisanji) Character Bento Contest
>26) 31,549: Miko (Hololive) EDF 5 Collab
>27) 94,614: Salome (Nijisanji) BioHazard 7
>28) 111,498: Miko (Hololive) 3D Outfit Reveal
>29) 38,282: Marine (Hololive) Utawaku
>30) 31,092: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>31) 106,289: Salome (Nijisanji) Biohazard 7


> PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
10x: Nijisanji
1x: PRISM
1x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
3x: Subaru, Miko, Kuzuha
2x: Suisei, Pekora, Salome
1x: Kanae, Mio, Sara Nagare, Ponpoko, Hololive, Gura, Genzuki, Korone, Luna, Karuta, Lamy, Levi, Roboco, Laplus, Mito, Marine

>>25300875
MAY 2022 BRONZE
>1) 40,196: Towa (Hololive) TowaLui Clubhouse 51
>2) 23,945: Calli (Hololive) Mama Mori debut
>3) 36,816: Marine (Hololive) KanaMari LINE
>4) 24,194: Koyori (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 Totsu
>5) 38,234: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiFes 2022 vol1
>6) 34,231: Ui (Indie) Suisei Tetris Collab
>7) 28,335: Marine (Hololive) Holo AmongUs
>8) 38,516: Ponpoko (Indie) 24hours stream Part 4
>9) 24,746: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>10) 17,448: Patra (774 Inc.) ASMR
>11) 23,302: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>12) 24,916: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>13) 41,432: Mysta (Nijisanji) FOXYBAKAS
>14) 35,786: Kanata (Hololive) Lapu Prank offcollab
>15) 29,669: Fubuki (Hololive) FubuMio NintendoSwitchSport
>16) 28,763: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) LOL
>17) 40,733: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>18) 25,194: Subaru (Hololive) Dead by Daylight
>19) 27,876: Subaru (Hololive) Mario Kart (below 8th place show past tweet)
>20) 32,574: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX CR Cup Day 3
>21) 35,859: Shion (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 collab w/ Sakamata
>22) 26,472: Koyori (Hololive) Within Skerry
>23) 35,276: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>24) 32,478: Haachama (Hololive) Takoyaki Revenge Stream w/ Luna
>25) 33,390: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft
>26) 29,808: Morinaka Kazaki (Nijisanji) 3D Live
>27) 67,101: Tamaki (NoriPro) Daruma Interview
>28) 93,376: Salome (Nijisanji) EuroTruck Simulator
>29) 34,735: Subaru (Hololive) Tales of the Abyss
>30) 29,316: Tamaki (NoriPro) Uruka Interview
>31) 68,382: Gwelu (Nijisanji) APEX

May 5, 4th place *35,393: Subaru (Hololive) OkaSuba Kirby Endurance

> PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: 774 Inc.
2x: NoriPro


> PER STREAMER
6x: Kuzuha
3x: Subaru
2x: Marine, Koyori, Miko, Tamaki
1x: Towa, Calliope, Nijisanji, Shigure Ui, Ponpoko, Patra, Mysta, Kanata, Fubuki, Shion, Haachama, Morinaka Kazaki, Salome, Gwelu

>ブランド別総視聴時間ランキング(5/15 24時速報値) Watchtime 5/1 - 5/15
>1. 9,404,636 HololiveJP (943.5 hrs, 343枠, 平均9,967人 avg)
>2. 8,279,269 Nijisanji (2883.0 hrs, 1025枠, 平均2,872人 avg)
>3. 2,715,928 NIJISANJI EN (700.9 hrs, 196枠, 平均3,875人 avg)
>4. 2,297,859 VSPO (679.7 hrs, 192枠, 平均3,381人 avg)
>5. 1,764,310 HololiveEnglish (253.6 hrs, 85枠, 平均6,958人 avg)
>6. 1,762,314 Neo-Porte (480.7 hrs, 137枠, 平均3,666人 avg)
>7. 785,463 HololiveID (312.7 hrs, 105枠, 平均2,512人 avg)
>8. 323,944 Holostars (660.7 hrs, 205枠, 平均490人 avg)
>9. 258,506 NoriPro (313.4 hrs, 118枠, 平均825人 avg)
>10. 258,426 Honeystrap (146.5 hrs, 55枠, 平均1,764人 avg)

>ブランド別総視聴時間ランキング(5月速報値) Watchtime 5/1 - 5/30
>1. 18,767,489 Nijisanji (5878.0hrs, 2028枠, 平均3,193人 avg)
>2. 17,346,780 HololiveJP (1772.4hrs, 658枠, 平均9,787人 avg)
>3. 5,661,308 NIJISANJI EN (1461.6hrs, 423枠, 平均3,873人 avg)
>4. 4,455,907 VSPO (1349.5hrs, 382枠, 平均3,302人 avg)
>5. 3,532,281 Neo-Porte (909.5hrs, 265枠, 平均3,884人 avg)
>6. 3,386,966 HololiveEnglish (464.8hrs, 158枠, 平均7,288人 avg)
>7. 1,556,484 HololiveID (583.8hrs, 205枠, 平均2,666人 avg)
>8. 688,527 NoriPro (676.3hrs, 240枠, 平均1,018人 avg)
>9. 562,237 Holostars (1098.5hrs, 362枠, 平均512人 avg)
>10. 471,247 Honeystrap (257.8hrs, 99枠, 平均1,828人 avg)

Maybe one of the main reasons why Salome's subscribers are increasing rapidly is her name? Having 1,000,000 in the name suggests something bizarre could happen once she reaches a million subs, something which her viewers could be anticipating.

Is youtube still shitting on any of your end?

>>25301138
No, it's fine on my end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpyWnUcDGhg
Original song time

>>25301096
most posts in this thread are meaningless but they are produced out of reflex and emotion. You really rubbed both of your brain cells together to come up with this take and this is the best you could do. Actual moron.

>>25301096
The "hyakuman" in her name is not the 1 million "hyakuman", it's homonym

Risu got 2k on a superchat reading stream
HoloID sure is inclining

>>25301363
She would've inclined more if she were more savvy
Stupid treerat

>In the company for 7 months
>No Covers or originals
>Worst singer in her gen
>Limited cross branch interaction ( lowest in Holox)
>Gave up on EN pandering while Chloe / Lui / Koyori still do
>Lui is gaining on her and will pass her
What was the plan for her? Every other member of Holox has clear specializations. Was she supposed to be the new mega MC autist but Cover didn't realize Minecraft was dead?

>>25301496
>What was the plan for her?
ID pandering

>>25301524
>ID pandering
wut

>>25301496
>No Covers or originals
She's autistic about this and want to release her first one by working on them by herself.

How long until niji tourists are tired of the fake ojou sama desuwa~?
It's getting more and more annoying desuwa~

>>25301496
>Minecraft was dead
Minecraft is never dead. Just wait a while, you'll see

>>25300994
Did you add back the Subaru mention on the 5th?

>>25301692
when she has started her natural reclining or IPO phase has finished successfully
wink wink

Here is the complete EN Gold medal list for May. I will follow this up with the overall medal list to date (since EN Gold started)

*MAY TOTAL MEDAL COUNT*

>Gold
7 Golds: Gura
5 Golds: Mysta, Vox
2 Golds: Yugo, Baelz
1 Gold: Luca, Mori, Shu, Sara, Kiara, Ina, Kronii, Uki, Fauna, Ike

HoloEN: 14 Golds
NijiEN: 16 Golds

>Silver
7 Silvers: Vox
3 Silvers: Ike, Mumei
2 Silvers: Ina, Mysta
1 Silver: Luca, Baelz, Amelia, Enna, Nina, Kronii, Gura, Yugo, Mori

HoloEN: 10 Silvers
NijiEN: 16 Silvers

>Bronze
4 Bronze: Amelia, Ina
3 Bronze: Ike, Vox
2 Bronze: Shu, Mumei, Luca, Mysta
1 Bronze: IRyS, Gura, Alban, Kronii

HoloEN: 13 Bronze
NijiEN: 13 Bronze

Seems like I'm missing some Bronze and Silvers. I am going to blame that on people posting fake charts making the archives annoying to browse. For next month I will keep the data on a spreadsheet.

>>25301945
>7 Silvers: Vox
Sasuga EN King

There’s still some hours to go, but with the speed that the views are coming in, it seems like neither of the HoloX offcollabs are actually going to beat out the council offcollab guerilla, or even come close to it for that matter. Koyori’s offcollab had 27k/31k avg/peaks and it’s not even close to 200k right now, as it’s currently sitting at 167k.

Is she on pace to beat Gura to 1M?
If so, is she also on pace to beat Gura to 4M?

>>25302158
>1M
Yes, she should pass it easily
>4M
ehhh, we'll see.

>still seething about Salome
holy shit, it has been a week, bronies

>>25302158
>Set the highest ave ccv
what other records will salome break?

>>25302233
where was the seethe before this post?

Are we at the point now where not having open VC in your Minecraft title kneecaps your viewership? Or is it Ame herself that people are choosing not watch? Not doing well compared to Baes last MC.

>>25302233
I want her to take the top spot from gura so she doesn't have the weight of "le biggest number vtuber" anymore.

t. chumbud

KOYORI PLEASE STOP STREAMING DO MUCH YOU WILL DIE THE NUMBERS AREN’T WORTH IT

>>25302258
Most dick rode in a week
Biggest object inserted intra-anal

How long is it going to take her to hit 4 million subs? I feel like she's been sitting at 3.9 forever.

>>25302303
Salami posters are the same retards that were spamming Vox. Notice how one replace the other. They're here to bait (You)s and nothing else.

>>25301945
>Gura's median : 21k
>Vox's median : 10k
>Mysta's median : 10k
Gura's median = Vox + Mysta combine

>>25301496
Iroha is the Sana of HoloX. How does Cover keep getting these lazies? You know it's simple, just get streamers first then talents. Them moving away from relying on streaming is slowly killing them. Aqua/FBK/pekora/Korone were all NND streamers, Gen 5 doesnt have a streamer but they do have a blue Koyori. One gen needs streamers,that's it.

>>25302158
I don't think she will beat Gura to 1M. If there is one thing that EOPs have over JOPs is that they can really boost your subscriber numbers, just take a look at Hololive after the boom and Nijisanji.

Haato and Kiara have more subscribers than Kuzuha. If she wants to break Gura's records she needs to explode among the EOPs and I don't think that's going to happen.

>>25302303
>>25302440
See:
>>25301937
>>25301692
,among others.

>>25302348
Can't see it happening. JP market for streaming isn't as large.

>>25302324
>111st
Holy shit, I always forget how much of a phenom 2020 Gura was

>>25302470
Iroha is a lot more hardworking that that green bitch Fauna so fuck off with these blatant lies.

>>25302480
I still think 1M record is still in the bag for the moment, but if she wants to challenge further than she needs to blow up like Kizuna Ai first.

>>25302468
>0.2 salome
>0.1 salome
>0.1 salome

>>25302468
Yep, also:
Mysta, Vox, Shu > Ina, Mumei, Kronii

>>25302509
seethe

>>25302549
No one cares about your fake bitch

>>25302583
cope

>>25302480
She only needs 250k more and she just got 55k in a day. In what world does she not beat Gura's record?

>>25302514
Currently, AKB48's official channel is the 100th in Japan with 2.84M subs. The uphill battle is really exciting.

>>25302604
/#/ cares

>>25302659
In the world where the audience she's pulling from is a finite pool of mostly JoPs

>>25302604

Is May the last month that Hololive will ever win?

>>25302439
She will hit it on her birthday

>>25302675
>Shitposters and samefaggings cares
Fixed

>>25302720
You realize that no one in Niji will ever beat Salome either right

>>25301945
*OVERALL MEDALS SINCE RANKING STARTED*

>Gold
29 Golds: Gura
14 Golds: Vox
11 Golds: Mumei
11 Golds: Mysta
9 Golds: Mori
7 Golds: Baelz
5 Golds: Kronii
4 Golds: Kiara
3 Golds: Amelia, Yugo, Shu, Uki, Fauna, Ike
2 Golds: IRyS, Luca, Ina
1 Gold: Elira, Enna, Nina, Alban, Sara

>Silver
16 Silvers: Vox
12 Silvers: Mumei, Ina
11 Silvers: Mysta
9 Silvers: IRyS, Luca
7 Silvers: Amelia, Gura
5 Silvers: Baelz, Mori
4 Silvers: Fauna, Kronii
3 Silvers: Ike
2 Silvers: Shu, Kiara
1 Silver: Selen, Sonny, Enna, Nina, Yugo

>Bronze
22 Bronze: Mysta
16 Bronze: Vox
12 Bronze: Ina
9 Bronze: Mori
7 Bronze: Amelia
6 Bronze: Mumei, Luca
5 Bronze: Baelz, Ike, IRyS
4 Bronze: Gura, Kronii
3 Bronze: Fauna, Shu
2 Bronze: Kiara
1 Bronze: Petra, Selen, Uki, Yugo, Alban

>HOLOLIVE
75 Golds
75 Silvers
55 Bronze
205 TOTAL MEDALS

>NIJISANJI
43 Golds
46 Silvers
57 Bronze
146 TOTAL MEDALS

>OTHERS
1 Gold
0 Silver
0 Bronze
1 TOTAL MEDAL

>>25302756
But as long as Salome wins it's Niji winning and Hololive losing.

>>25302720
Their best chance is during the EN3 debut month.

But if Nijisanji EN releases their 6th wave and it's male-only or at least mixed during the same month as EN3 things can turn ugly for Cover.

>>25302696
Even if the pool is finite and her sub rate drops off drastically, I don't think it's enough to stop a record breaking march to 1M. Past that yeah, I can see a big slowdown.

>>25302809
Not really. She might as well be an indie, none of her audience bleeds over into the rest of her company.

>>25302720
Just have a graduation stream everyday

>>25302784
Gura is really bad at winning cripple silver and bronze.

>>25302809
>Hololive losing
Nijiniggers delusional as always

>>25302746
>>25302604
I am sorry for your loss, indo anon.

>>25302857
You:>>25302746

>>25302756
So Niji wins?

>>25302846
Well she usually wins gold whenever she streams so it's not surprise that her Silver and Bronze totals aren't that high.

>Amelia - minecraft - 7 400
>Kroni - literally who game - 7 848
What is this..

>>25302811
Dude, you don't need to cope, you've got Salome already. Just be happy you'll always take gold when she streams and stop trying to shill NijiEN already

>>25302905
It's the usual debuffson special, why are you surprised?

>>25302911
When Niji is winning, they still try to shit up the thread. Any reason why?

>Laplus
>Out of the world MVs
>Still getting shit views
what went wrong?

>>25302957
small dog syndrome
also they got fucking buried in April with only King's pity gold to show up for it

>>25302905
if you debuffing yourself so much people stop caring

>>25302835
Sounds just like Gura's audience, well Salome's is 4-5x bigger, but you get the idea.

>>25302905
It's really fucking funny how you retards never learn your lessons that people join over time

>>25302324
So this is only subscribers from Japan? I guess what people are saying about Salome being an almost-exclusively Japanese phenomenon is true then. If these numbers are right then almost her entire subscriber count consists of JPs.

>>25303128
That means blowing up in EN side is inevitable since she has been getting a lot of translated clips already. Nijisanji found their 2nd Kizuna Ai.

>>25303100
She's not going to hit 10k is she?

>>25302537
Kizuna Ai went global. With EN, etc Vtubers being a thing now I can't see it happening.

>>25302784
Huh, expect Vox to have the most podiums overall but it's actually Mysta.

>>25303209
>Blowing up on EN side
Yeah, I’m sure Nijisanji JP is REALLY known for their explosive amount of English fans!

Raided twice and lose both audiences twice, that's impressive.

>>25303100
she could have more but you know holoEN is allergic to numbers

>>25302809
>>25302957
> Nijisanji 平均3,193人 avg
> HololiveJP 平均9,787人 avg

>>25303320
The reason why avg ccv is important.

>>25302784
>7 Golds: Baelz
That is surprising. Did not expect her to be that high.

>>25303320
from what streams?
raid only sticks if it's related or similar audience

>>25302784
>>25303285
nvm I can't count, Vox still wins
vox 46
mysta 44
gura 40

>>25303384
February was strong for her because she had 0 overlaps and no one was streaming and she was doing non stop buff content like her collabs.

>>25303320
If you ignore the raid bump, the ccv curve still makes sense, 3k is still in the bag, but 4k is less possible if there is no raid involve.

>>25303384
FeBaeruary was her strongest month

>>25303285
Because Mysta is a giant numberfag and he can’t live without it. He’s headlined all the collabs that people care about. Just the offcollab alone:
>The offcollab introduction
>Mario party
>Unarchived karaoke
>Cooking handcam w/ vox

Reminder that even if Salomes CCV fall by 66% she would still be the top vtuber. Unless her views somehow completely crater (I've never heard of this happening in the modern era), Nijisanji will have the top JP male, top JP female, and top EN male streamers.

>>25303238
>Kizuna went global
>Got mogged by Gura in being the first 3m subs Vtuber
>Shit CCV
>The company is full of debt even now
>Needed crowdfunding to do such concerts

>>25303012
>if you debuffing yourself
any thoughts why is she like this?

With the recent drama, I thought NijiEN females would incline in viewership, but it seems they are quite low.

>>25303209
Does this ojou-sama stuff have much appeal to non-JPs outside of hardcore weebs? For me it gets old pretty quick, but I'm mostly a dirty EN watcher anyway.

>>25303484
>I've never heard of this happening in the modern era
Poor Edengumi

>>25303486
What is your point exactly?

>>25303320
>a big family
>their fanbases think otherwise
btw who raid her?

>>25302784
Every single HoloEN (except for Sana of course) has at least 2 golds. On the other hand only 11/20 NijiENs have at least 1 gold. Even in EN Nijisanji is crazy top heavy.

>>25302905
I really don't understand why people expect minecraft to be popular, especially solo streams. Whenever I tune it they're the most boring shit, I'd rather watch kronii's puzzle game

>>25303513
Best they get is some lip service from Twitterfags and lose some paypigs.

>>25303527
It doesn't seem to appeal to hardcore weebs either. Her audience doesn't come from anywhere within the preexisting Vtuber community

>>25303513
The drama will only buff Vox imo

>>25303527
From looking at her en clips number, she hasn't penetrated en market yet

>>25303530
chumbud just wanted to shit on Kizuna kek

>>25303577
Why are you quoting old bait posts
Ame’s already at 9k now

>>25303513
Anon the females are a lost cause and can only get number boosts with collabs. They already know this.

>>25303402
First - Uki (Kirby)
Second - Millie (Duolingo)

Yea, those audiences aren't going to stick around very long.

>>25302977
No idea. I expected more people to watch her songs after how popular her Godish cover was. Her new original is really good though so I expect it to pick up views pretty consistently over time.

>>25303530
NTA but fuck that money-grubbing whore

>>25303484
All it takes is for her to break her kayfabe and collab with a male to see her numbers plummet. She will never be a 4digit though, so she will always still be a top female Niji.

>>25303484
What? Pretty much no one holds onto more than 10% of their debut CCV, and Salome has managed to maintain her power by holding onto that hype. When it finally drops off, she'll probably fall to Gura levels.

>>25302977
Good MV shit song
Simple

>>25303586
Actually says a lot about how vtuber audience in JP side expanded in the past 2 years.
We have Chloe and now Salome, the initial sub growth is getting more and more extreme if they can nail the debut and the first few streams.

>>25303709
Anon, her debut was like 8 streams ago. Debut buff wears off after 3 streams.

>>25301110
Ame?

>>25303384
She had a strong February with 5 golds and then somehow managed to sneak in 2 golds in the month of May and both of her May golds were pretty epic.

One was the Minecraft stream in which she was raided up to 17k viewers and that marked the first time HoloEN used the raiding feature.

The second May gold was when her and IRyS had their IB collab and actually beat out Ike and Vox who were playing the exact same game.

>>25303527
There are other tropes that would have more traction in the EN market. Not many popular anime for EN folk have ojou-sama characters.

>>25303759
>Debut buff wears off after 3 streams
So this is what /#/ has turned into huh? Bunch of newfags spouting shits

>>25303527
No, I know that she's the funniest, the best, and most entertaining chuuba ever according to some people here, but her viewers are JP normies because her humour is as japanese as can be. In other words, boring af for any western. She won't and she doesn't need to appeal to EN viewers, the day she tries to change the way she acts now, she will be doomed

>>25303601
>yet
And she never will. Westerns like funny meme girls and cuteness. She has neither. She has Japanese sense of humor.

>>25302857
This is still the most funny shit this year horserace.
Before this happened, holobronies were all cocky and underestimated Salome because they are EOP while I have seen at miles away after her debut with the explosion of fanarts and topic on jap twitter. The early celebration was hilarious
>>/vt/thread/S25080347

>>25303759
Not for Salome. Granted, Salome is a fucking witch that can conjure new Vtuber fans from dust and water, so maybe she can discover the secret to maintaining Debut buff forever. That shit's an actual Holy Grail, and if she manages it I'll start believing in actual fucking magic

>>25303813
I've been watching vtubers since before you started posting here in 2016. Post numbers that debut buff lasts longer or shut the fuck up.

NijiEN
>Vox $99,339
>Alban $72,588
>Shu $59,865
>Luca $47,817
>Fulgur $46,292
>Mysta $37,082
>Ike $36,687
>Sonny $26,144
>Pomu $23,060
>Uki $18,924
>Elira $14,353
>Yugo $11,653
>Selen $11,379
>Enna $9,255
>Finana $8,211
>Reimu $6,618
>Millie $5,760
>Rosemi $5,179
>Petra $4,443
>Nina $4,198

total $548,847

HoloEN
>Ina $28,669
>Fauna $26,117
>IRyS $25,958
>Mori $21,926
>Kiara $21,230
>Bae $19,586
>Kronii $19,077
>Gura $18,677
>Mumei $17,079
Ame $13,530
Sana $3,389

total $215,238

The thread known for not watching streams and not knowing Japanese suddenly watches streams and speaks Japanese.
What gives

>25303875
Yep, /#/ is a lost cause now
Thanks salami, you IPO-scam whore

>>25303920
>newfag detected
gtfo and kys

>>25303648
I dunno, Kirby looks pretty much like a slime from Slime Rancher.

>>25303894
Damn, even if he's taking a quarter of 1.2m thats still 300k a year. Hope NijiEN doesn't become a bunch of lazy assholes like HoloEN in a year or two. Wage slaves with no real skills suddenly making well over six figures affects their work ethic and mental health. Wish these companies did financial management training or something so they don't do stupid shit with it.

>>25303920
Because it's bait.

>>25303920
The Numbers were very Big. They were so BIG, you have to understand, and this is /#/. If Salome has the Biggest Numbers, then the posters here are surely there, avid supporters

>>25303950
Meant for >>25303875

Kronii ended early?

>>25303894
absolute mogg

If you respond to ESL shitposts you're part of the problem.

>>25303894
NijiEN girls..

>>25303894
What's the source of these?

>>25303920
I am slave to big numbers
simple as

I'm genuinely excited for Salome's stream tonight. Really interested to hear what she thinks about her enormous success and the numbers she's been getting, and it seems like the perfect stream format to hear her potentially talk about it. I don't give a fuck about Obiohazard, but this is potentially very interesting.

Toyamage is more powerful than Watamage confirmed?

>>25303894
I was so close to getting into Noctyx... I could have been making this kind of money... fucking hate my worthless life...

>>25304126
So you're a Deddy fan I take it?

> Salome when 200k subs
> 90k - 100k ccv
> Salome when 700k subs
> 90k - 100k ccv

>>25303894
>gura is making $9k monthly after YT and cover cut
damn even with US cost of living you can live so comfortably with that from just streaming occasionally

>>25304106
Council...

>>25304189
You have to understand, subcounts work like that for everyone, please

>>25303894
why is ame so low when she's actually one of the most consistent EN streamers?

>>25304057
>Play the worst kusogame I've ever seen (This time for real, lots of holos have played real kusogames before, but this was on another level)
>The game lasts 1h so that you don't have to stream longer
>Goes into a small just chatting even though she has already done one yesterday
Sasuga, I don't know why people keep talking about Ame, Kronii has done enough to be called the most autodebuffed member

> Gura when 1m subs
> 40k - 50k ccv
> Gura when 4m subs
> 15k - 20k ccv

>>25304189
Yeah retard next you're gonna post something else retarded like
>Ollie at 200k subs
>5k ccv
>Ollie at 1M subs
>1.5k ccv

>>25304209
That's really not impressive among streamers though

>>25303894
remember when nina was supposed to be the top nijigirl? She's getting mogged by even the lowest subscribed nijigirls.

>>25304209
That's just SCs. ad rev, membership and goods are all places she's getting money. After everyone saw the merch sales data they stopped giving a fuck when even someone like Aki can get hundreds of thousands in USD.

>>25304254
she's so gamer type of streamer and doesn't really pander that much

>>25304287
Is it not? How many streamers earn more than that?

>>25304264
Retard, zatsu is Kronii's strong point
If anything she's buffing herself

>>25304209
Anon... your cut and taxes reps...
(She's making way more with members, sponsors, YT ad revenue, etc...)

>>25304209
you meant $6.5k w/o tax

>>25304254
>when she's actually one of the most consistent EN streamers?
uuhhhhh

>>25304357
Strong point =//////////= buff

>>25303894
>that gap between ike and sonny
>people actually give fungus covid money
lmao

>>25304287
Donations have never been the deciding factor for streamers, unless you’re like a 5k indie. Gura’s probably make tens of thousands off of her sponsors, and one of those sponsors not only put her in their game but even made custom Gura merch. I doubt she’s hurting at all.

>>25304347
Like all of the top 200 Twitch streamers, there was a huge data leak that showed their payouts and they were making millions over the course of a couple years

>>25304358
she should invest her revenues in having her own 3d studio

I put Anycolor's and Cover's income statements on the same pic and re-ordered them to be in the same order for an easier comparison.

Awww come on now holo"friends". You know how this goes. You kneel to us now for around a month, and then we will kneel when uh *check notes* Pekora return stream. Keep the thread fun and interactive, everyone wins! Now bend over.

>>25304427
200 out of how many millions?

>>25304264
Idk anon, there are millions of games JP have played that last 1, 2 hours at MOST. Kronii even hit 8k off it so can’t really complain about that.

>>25303894
I take it this is superchats only, right? I know NijiEN uses streamlabs as well, which can be a nice additional chunk on top of superchats.

>>25304189
Deadsubs!

I think I'm infected by this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbyXJO_yin4
Otters, but in Japan.

>>25304333
Is there actual data on how much these girls earn every year? The only concrete number I've heard is that Noel had to pay 100 million yen in income tax last year, but I don't know how much of that is from her rm activities

>>25304452
Looking at this chart >>25288607 means I will never kneel to you Nijikek. Total Hololive domination.

>>25304506
Where did you get that info?

>>25304451
only good poster itt

>>25304502
>5 million views in 1 month
HOLY NUMBERS!!

Ame 10k

>>25304506
We will never know, but keep in mind that Miko's last year merch run netted her a cool 1 million burgerdollars

>>25303894
vox may numbers
>youtube money $99k
>bilibili money $259k

>>25304545
from the noel general on jp, she said it outright at some point apparently

>>25304451
No wonder Anycolor needs investor money

>>25304600
Did he ever stream in Bilibili mor than thrice?

>>25304585
>last year merch run
It was this year

>>25304600
bibili make 90% cut LMAO

>>25304600
holy fuck
with this kind of money coming in i would throw reimu under the bus every day, why even bother paying lip service when you can set yourself up for life?

>>25304600
now compare it after the cuts

>>25304600
>b2 income
Good luck trying to cash that out tho

>>25304451
What is COGS? % cut to the actual streamers?

>>25304665
The problem is not b2 cut, the problem is b2 almost never pays their own chink streamer so Vox would need no less than a miracle to be able to cash out even 1% of that

>>25304738
Production cost maybe?

>>25304640
If anything it's the opposite, Riku did his expansion in the 2019-2020 fiscal year (G&A Expenses high) while Yagoo has kept a more measured cost structure which has meant more profitability at the expense of lower sales potential.
Anycolor can expect sales growth to continue, their 3Q results for this year already exceed 4Q of 2020-2021 sales, meanwhile Cover benefited from going absolutely insanely viral which should show on their upcoming, as we saw from merch sale leaks. Neither company is in need of investor money.

What is the next step in Corporate Vtuber debut strategy? Clearly releasing an MV and collab spamming doesn't mean shit, as indicated by Salome's success in spite of doing neither, and for that matter generations just hold you back.

So, what can be taken away from this recent development that actually works, from a corporate perspective?

>>25304600
He will never see that bilibili money

>>25304600
Where do these Chinese fujos get all this money? Even most JP gachi don't open their wallets like this consistently.

>>25304824
Cover diversified their income into multi-media franchise while Anycolor was forced to hold off to their warchest thanks to Fantasia

>>25304600
>B2
>50% cut right off
>Then another 30%ish goes to the CN government as youre attempting to move money out of the country
>THEN you get the 50/50 cut with Anycolor
>After wearing 6 months to a year for the money to clear all the government -checks-

>>25304738
See pic related. Yes, quite a bit of cut to streamers but also all sorts of production costs and costs to their partners like their store providers.

>>25304884
Well that was that story of the Fujo who literally stole donation money so she could donate it to Vox instead. Something tells me the superchat money he is getting isn't exactly on the up and up. Super shady just like a lot of the stuff surrounding him.

>>25304884
Anon, china is in the middlesome say they're a the end of unprecedented economic bubble while japan is still reeling from 90's bubble burst

>>25304938
That was a TW Voxfags and they rarely use b2

>>25304912
Event cancellation loss was 161,205,000 yen.
Meanwhile Sales May 1 2021 to Jan 31 2022 is 10,159,499,000, yes, ten billion yen.
I haven't translated it yet but 3 billion yen of pre-tax income for those 3 quarters. 160 million yen loss is NOTHING.

Vtuber incomes have risen 10 fold and we still can't lure retired professionals and semi-amatuer singers/dancers/gamers/entertainers into the scene. What gives? Are people that narcissistic that they dont want fame and money if its not their real face plastered everywhere?

I'm enjoying this thread at this very moment, actual conversations, multiple datas provided.

>>25305073
Anon, it isn just the cost of cancelling the event, its also the lost REVENUE that would have come in from ticket sales and merch.

>>25304451
They make roughly the same amount? Cover sells more merch, has more sponsorships, sold more concerts tickets on SPWN, and makes more SC. How the fuck are they roughly the same? Where does Nijis money come from?

>>25305082
Yes. Flesh streamers have a tendency to have a superiority complex over streamers that don't show their face, the same holds true for their audiences.

>>25303648
Nijibox is pathetic

>>25304846
I still think from a corporate perspective, Holobox formula is still the way to go. You can sprinkle one or two solo debut in for the mega buff if you have the right talent, but there are a lot of benefit for the generation formula, beyond raw CCV. Releasing girls via gen hedge risks, and give weaker members more foothold to catch up. Collabs spamming work on the same principle. Overall it helps the brand from getting diluted like Niji.

>>25304451
>>25304932
Thank you data anon

>>25305146
Sheer scale. They have more powerhouses due to raw quantity. It probably also drives up their operating costs, which is why that's higher on their side comparatively to Cover

>>25305146
Obviously because at least one of those things isn't true. I don't know which, but SC is public (and this fiscal period was the primetime of Coco and Rushia), so my guess is Anycolor actually has the advantage in either Merch or Sponsors.

>>25305146
$5 million dollars difference is nothing to scoff at

>>25305266
I'm guessing sponsorships. Niji is doing bigger stuff while Cover is fucking around with dumb gacha collabs.

>>25305266
Why don't you put 2021-2022 instead the old one then

>>25305266
I think Anycolor has the merch advantage given that their merchs are simple stuffs like keychain and tapestry with single illustration while Cover's more varied

>>25305082
There are so many decent singers out there that being a vtuber to differentiate yourself is an attractive option which is why you'll see so many former utaite. "semi-amateur" is the level most Hololive members were

>>25305346
Which big sponsorship niji has that cover don't?

>>25305073
Where are you getting fiscal information for anything after April 2021?

>>25305346
I don't know much about Holo and Niji sponsorships, what does each have?

>>25305266
>>25304932
>2019-2020
>2020-2021
Put the new ones instead the olds ones

>>25304846
>and for that matter generations just hold you back.
>HoloX debut numbers
At least make your assertions after making sure they're accurate.

The strategy, though. Is to not take too long between announcement date and debut date. If you can afford it, hot-drop a debut. If you can avoid it, 3 days notice.

>>25304451
So Cover won. AnyColor has more personnel, and 200+ vtubers, why are they so bad at getting numbers?

>>25305346
>>25305422
>2020-2021
Niji had more meanwhile hololive had that nissin shit.

>>25303540
a big family doesn't mean you want to watch everything everyone does
I like Korone but I'm not going to watch Flare playing Ark if there are other options available, even though they're good friends

>>25302835
thats a retarded point when Salome is in her collab ban period, retard. And even if it was true, Anycolor still would make money from her, have a extremely popular vtuber and for this thread matter, win golds.

>>25305442
Just wait for the IPO anon. Salome is taking Nijisanji to the fucking moon.

Man. It would be so funny if Salome's sub growth suddenly slows to a crawl as she approaches 1m and the JP only subs cap limit. It'd be like the Kuzuha Vampire cover all over again

>>25304451
>2020-2021
Anon what year is now? you why is asking for

>>25305442
Anycolor net income rose to 3000% anon
Granted that Cover seems to put more money into many projects, but still

>>25305442
They love spending money on shit ventures like SLEE, Yumenographia and now VTA.

>Nijisanji
>collab ban
Not even getting a (You)

>>25305442
Hololive is simply more popular no matter how much Nijikeks want to deny it.

>>25305508
>Nijisanji
>Collab ban

>>25305358
>>25305423
Because it's incomplete. Only 3 quarters, so can't be compared to a full year. And no competitor to compare them to for this period.
I mean, it's not hidden information, it's on their IPO docs, you're welcome to MTL it yourself.

>>25305416
They published 3Q of info for 2021-2022 in their IPO disclosures.

>>25305526
Her lead is way too big, I can see her stagnating a bit after 1M, but she's going to break the record for sure

>>25305442
Dunno probably because half of that 200 are in virtuareal, half of what's left over rarely streams, and half of what's left over after that regularly breaks 1k viewers

>>25305588
You know what, I shouldn't have replied. It's some ESL samefag. Enjoy your (You)s.

>>25305596
We saw the overwhelming speed and lead Kuzuha's Vampire cover had as well only for it to slow so much that it lost

>>25304846
What I think is actually, Salome should teach the same lesson that Irys taught. Basically, the absolute most important thing is making a first impression and being easy to sell on a surface level audience.

Irys has a character design that did not catch the eye correctly and her personality wasn't a meme; Salome is a meme, she sold her character hard and made it easy to understand, and had an actually great character design.

From there, consistent but short streams maintain the debut hype and character integrity. Some level of pre-scripting and practice is probably necessary in order to actually keep up the kayfabe.

Basically, get someone with streaming experience and teach them how to act, and then set them up for their debut month with a bunch of skit ideas.

>>25305604
Is joint project like VR usually included in the financial statement?

Should Niji do a bit of culling? Maybe the bottom 50 streamers. They technically do no harm to the company financially but cutting the dead weights will make the portfolio looks much better

>>25305692
After IPO period maybe, cutting off dead weight RIGHT BEFORE their IPO is suicidal

So who's going to graduate next after Warabeda and Melissa?

>>25305692
This will almost certainly burn a lot of bridges and kill moral among employees. No Japanese company does this after all

Salome schedule for next week
https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1531835929064681473

>>25305372
>"semi-amateur"
You mean "semi-pro" / "prosumer"?

>>25305692
Thats what salami is for to fix their tail with a large head. And no they wont fire them, it'll be bad pr. They will do it the japanese way and reduce any type of support
and hope they leave.

>>25305146
$5m is not "roughly" the same amount

>>25305692
Believe it or not having a diverse portfolio is good for finding sponsors. If you only have the very biggest you cut yourself out of a portion of the sponsorships market. There are sponsors in the English streamer world who will only go for streamers below 500 viewers, as the higher engagement in those streams gives a better ROI since they also pay much less.

>>25305692
>They technically do no harm to the company financially but cutting the dead weights will make the portfolio looks much better
They already cleaned up the non-performing branches by merging them into the main branch to absorb the losses, so I think they're fine. Cutting everyone at the bottom is just really bad for optics and flies against the main appeal of Nijisanji which is having a huge variety of choice. What streamer would join them after that?

>>25305787
You know those two had completely different reasons to graduate right?

>>25305787
debi

>>25305896
this

>>25305692
That's what the merger was. They have now only 3 branches, 3 of them that are successful while the complete messed up KR and the underperforming ID are merged with JP. It would be terrible PR for them to close down the branches with so much vtubers.

>>25305789
So the 1 week joke rrat is disproven, which brings up the question why she got the first ever solo Niji debut because of how inherently risky it is. Makes me think she's an established talent already, so possibly a redebut, or the VA rrat has wings after all.

>>25305789
>The End desuwa
What did she mean by this?

>>25305947
not quite. if it's a real IPO scam, the earliest for her to stop would be the 6th

>>25305273
>>25305805
Where are you getting 5m difference from?

>>25305738
They should have done that before the thought of going public even crossed their minds.

Can anyone tell me if there is there any correlation between Vtubers lowering their voice closer to their natural range and dropping viewership?

>>25305993
Just viewbaiting

>>25305797
"semi amateur" was in the post I quoted

>>25306052
Soo back in 2019?

>>25306047
From the 500 million yen difference in operating profit I assume.

And we're back to your regularly scheduled nijishilling on the holo sub.

>>25306047
It's 5 hundred million yen not 5 million dollars, my bad

>>25306118
>>25306143
oh shit, didn't realize the units were in 1000 yen

>>25306071
It's funny because I read that post and auto-corrected it in my mind as semi-pro and then got confused by your post. lol

>>25306063
I mean, off the top of my head, it didn't affect Suisei or Subaru at all.

>>25305526
this but before to hit 2M it will be a funny turtle race with pekora and marine

>>25306136
>browsing reddit for nijishills
>literally tagging "nijishills" with a reddit extension

worse than nijishills themselves tb desu

>>25305788
> No Japanese company does this after all
AnyColor already fired 50+ girls in one day.
Oh, sorry, you are right. This is a chink company.

>>25305787
salami you know why

>>25305655
If this is indeed true than there is great deal of potential in vtubing for improv actors, something that isn't really mentioned that much. I'm kind of surprised that over the years we haven't seen more people with an acting background doing this, other than some of the voice actors, and even those don't seem to use the skill that much.

>>25306251
>already fired 50+ girls in one day
how?
why?
qrd please

>>25306318
>Virtual cabaret club

>>25306136
I'm a nijifag but lord do I hate to see those retards talking about nijien all the time in there when theres no context. Nijien only fans are so fucking annoying and i say this as someone who likes nijien

>>25305655
So, short stream with kayfabe is the best for casual viewer right?
It'll attract new people who won't watch long stream but it's surely won't fit for attracting gachikois with load of red superchat

>>25306318
Yumenographia.
And before some retards start sperging out, >>25306251 said Anycolor, not Niji, so fuck off.

>>25304846
>So, what can be taken away from this recent development that actually works, from a corporate perspective?
Nothing because Salome is an anomaly and a league on her own.
The public she attracted is only for herself. Her company's colleagues and vtubers in generals does not seem affected by her grow at all so far.

>>25306372
I would do that if he said niji, but he said anycolor so he's not wrong.

>>25306136
Where's the obligatory screenshot of niji clipper discord?

>>25306369
That's only a fallback plan for unpopular chuubas

>>25306369
Setting yourself up to get grudgeposted hard when she breaks every monetization record.

>>25306426
>The public she attracted is only for herself. Her company's colleagues and vtubers in generals does not seem affected by her grow at all so far.
For fucks sake, why this keep being said? You cannot affirm this at all when Salome still is on her collab ban period. Wait when she begins collabs to see if these new viewers will subscribe to other members

>>25306490
The donation reading streams will definitely boost up her CCV momentum!

>>25305789
Nobody cares, fuck off

>>25306369
the bulk of profit won't come from superchats but from sponsorships

for instance, I think Salome wouldn't need to rely on gachikois when she has a very large (normie?) audience which can be potentially shilled upon

>>25306518
I don't know Nijisanji has a collab ban

Laplus orisong doing worse than Mumei's cover...is this normal for orisongs?

>>25305789
Cool stuff, thanks!

>>25306270
It's probably a difference in Japanese comedic sensibilities to English ones. If I were scouting for EN3 for example, I would try to poach from theatre girls who can actually speak with confidence in public, and sell a character through performance.

>>25306369
Yes, but it produces huge numbers of casuals. And frankly, there are so many ways to convert casuals into gachikois that it's harder not to. This is just my personal observations, but from what I've seen, any kind of filtering activity or content which engages with your audience also makes the audience which stays around more fanatical to you.

Once you capture the attention of the masses you can build a cult of personality just by doing shit that the masses don't like bit by bit, chipping away until all that's left is a core of people who will be hard to get rid of.

>>25306545
You think a girl larping as an ojou-sama will do donation reading streams?

>>25306518
There's no collab ban for NijiJP.

>>25306518
>collab ban period
>Nijisanji

>>25306545
She's a Niji. She won't be doing hours of SC readings like the Holowhores.

>>25306545
Hahaha... Sure
It would repel tourists who hate money pandering streamers

Is the EN gold by default going to be the more interesting and talked about race now since Salome has the actual gold in the bag?

>>25306686
True. Nijisanji prefers to do donation streams on day 2 instead.

Miko had such a batshit crazy good month that she has seriously closed the gap between herself and Pekora for the yearly hours watched chart.

>>25305947
>Redebut
The possibles candidates are already discarted
>Proffesional VA
Some heavy hitters on the japanese VA industry are already facecam streamers yet they never pull the number's Salome does.
And overall, seiyuus streams, even the ones shilling their seasonal anime, never get Salome's numbers unless is from big franchises like Final Fantasy, F/GO, Uma Musume, etc.
Literally, that girl is still mystery...which can be good in a sense.

>>25304846
Tell your shareholders that you are increasing or selling shares so they do a bit of their magic stuff to boost their value before they are sold

Shalom should collab with Debi

>>25306758
English version

>>25306770
That's impossibl.........ugh.......I feel sleepy

>>25305526
She'll get the 1 mil record easy enough considering her current inertia. Post 1 mil is the real slowdown for the JP market.

>>25306518
Even without collabs, if you don't funnel your viewership at all to your coworkers, that's noticeable. Moreover, she doesn't take her viewership from anywhere either, it emerges out of the abyss of the internet just to watch her.

>>25306758
>>25306827
Twitch

>>25306270
Honestly I'm not sure if that's the case. She had a lot of oddities around her debut that sparked an abnormal level of interest. If this brand of character actor came out in larger numbers it loses some of that special factor.

>>25306623
About your first point, Gura or Mori did say they are theater girls back in school iirc.
And Gura admitted that she almost end up in a children TV show, so I guess that's part of her skills.
Same with Pekora/Miko with the license of taking care of toddlers.
They all have the ability to put up an act.
And treat their audience like a bunch underage.

>>25306758
>>25306827
>>25306924
Just for the month of May

>>25306758
Why do #22 (Ina) and #54 (Sana) use full kanji names?

>>25307035
They're both half Japanese.

>>25306984
Is this the real weakness of Council? None of them have child care credentials, or theatre experience if I recall...

>>25307003
Thanks chartbro. Do you know how many hours Kaela had for this month? seems like every time I check who's live, she's always on.

>>25306744
They don't anon. Only En does that because thats how normal it is in the scene. Niji JP dont really does donation reading so focused like that.
>>25306583
>>25306667
>>25306673
Nijisanji has a collab ban on all branches since at least 2020.
Edengumi took one month to collab with everyone, same with ranunculus.
ID had a collab ban in their last two waves.
EN has a collab ban different, where they can collab with each other but not outside of nijisanji or to other branches until a month later

>>25307076
Says right there on the chart, 154.6

>>25306518
Other vtubers numbers don't really drop when she start nor do their numbers go up when she ends.
Also there is no collab ban and NijiJP has no company box. It'd be premature to say she can't push other people somewhere, but it's not happening NijiJP isn't built for it. Their viewers are just more causal on average and won't go outside of their usual unless it's a company event.

>>25307105
Oh, shit thanks. I thought that was JP only i'm retarded

>>25307066
your Moomers reps...

>>25306899
There's nothing to funnel, at least not large. Iirc at least 10k appeared to other streams while the rest who knows. This rest is the one who will need to see other nijis she collabs and get into the other vtubers.

>>25307066
their backstories aren't tragic enough and they led relatively normal upbringings as opposed to the nightmare of myth

>>25307003
>Watame back in top 5
I yearn for her to actually do buff content.

>>25307138
>Their viewers are just more causal on average and won't go outside of their usual unless it's a company event.
Units and constant collab member beg to differ.
>Also there is no collab ban and NijiJP has no company box
this >>25307096

Ame 11k

>>25307199
Anon....

>>25307205
A unit isn't a company box, anonchama.

>>25307003
Man, HoloX is really well balanced. You have streaming monsters like Koyori and Lui and then on the other extreme end of the spectrum you have La+ who doesn't stream a lot at all but is pretty far and away the most popular one CCV wise. Then you have Chloe who is a superchat monster and does pretty decent CCV numbers herself all things considered. Then you have Iroha......well her numbers aren't that bad, about the same as Chloe for CCV.

Pretty solid group.

>>25307214
I hate the fact that Minecraft is buff game, what a boring fucking stream

>>25307433
This isn't boring though

*cums on you*

>>25307096
>>25307205
Wasn't the Niji collab ban just for cross-branch collabs?

May EN numbers
>top median
>Gawr Gura 20,811 vs Mysta Rias 10,545
winner: HoloEN

>monthly peak ccv
>Gawr Gura WWE 33,601 vs Vox,Mysta,Luca Unarchived Karaoke 49,641
winner: NijiEN

>monthly daily gold
>HoloEN 14 gold vs NijiEN 17 gold
winner: NijiEN

>number of over 10k streams
>HoloEN 47 vs NijiEN 58
winner: NijiEN

>total watch time
>HoloEN 3,386,966 vs NijiEN 5,661,308
winner: NijiEN

>total monthly views
>HoloEN 55,710,729 vs NijiEN 56,900,722
winner: NijiEN

>total SC
>HoloEN $215,238 vs NijiEN $548,847
winner: NijiEN


>HoloEN: 1
>NijiEN: 6
>May winner: NijiEN

>>25307142
My reps aren't complete, qrd on mooms?

>>25307504
This is the dumbest post I have ever seen on this board. Completely baffling post.

What with all the HoloEN vs NijiEN baitposting?

>>25307096
Source? This is the first time i've heard of any collab ban for Niji except for the Millie one which she didn't even know existed.

>>25307484
That's just for NijiEN. They are unique in that regard.
You have to wonder anon, why they take a month to collab with other members? Their last two waves took time to collab, so either they do it by themselves or there's an internal rule. In both cases the 1 month still seems to be the case

>>25307433
Minecraft streams would be better if they actually did interesting content with it. Minecraft is a buff game because so many massive content creators fucking built up its position within the algorithm with countless different approaches.

It's always just...Hey, let's wander around the EN or maybe the JP server for a while and do a zatsudan. I mean it when I say, I think they should steal more ideas from other minecraft youtubers, it would probably make the game more fun to watch and play

10 million for an all time classic. Seeing this hit 10 million actually made me feel things.

>>25307504
You forgot monthly sub

>>25307504
Only median matter to streamers
They need to be consistent and stable
Spaming off-collabs and celebrations or dramas doesn't make you win in a long run

>>25307433
Like 20% of HoloEN fanbase is mc autists. Go scroll down on hermitcraft comment section and you'd find some hololive pfp

>>25302480
Dude she has like 30 more days to get 200k subscribers.
Even if her current rate of gain is HALVED, she will get there before Gura.
Also she will never get culled thanks to the HoloX style debut.

>>25307712
She really should get culled though. Her debut was way more explosive than even HoloX, it's honestly bizarre how little she's been fucked over by Susan

>>25303894
uh huh

>>25303920
>not watching streams
>not knowing Japanese
what is this retardation? this is the only place that discusses certain JP 2views on the entirety of Western Internet.

>>25307782
Same thing with Luxiem, no CCV cull at all. I'm really beginning to believe the theory that Anycolor is paying Susan to kneecap Hololive.

>>25305146
> no need to give salary to everyone
> cheap mass produced merch
> one manager handles multiple talents, some up to 10
> get 30% cut of every single bit of income coming from 100+ livers, including song views

>>25307636
I'm away from my pc right now but I'll add it to the ten million list when I get back

>>25306827
10th place is closer in number of streams to FBK (2nd) than FBK is to infinite Koyo works. Koyo really is a monster and EN Holo needs someone like her so badly.

>>25304846
this mentality is what led to the NijiIN-->NijiEN brand change btw

>>25306770
Debi should collab with my dick

>>25306518
Collabs are a debuff for her. Her current viewers are ALL there for her, and she hasn't been around long enough to have hardcore fans, so there will be at least a few that are filtered by whoever she collabs with.

>>25308019
one thing has nothing to do with another, are you retard

>>25307783
Your numbers are wrong. >>25303894 's numbers are from Playboard's monthly view, yours are, what, added up dailies? Adding up dailies will differ with timezones.

>>25307782
hololive often got culled because of their overlapped fanbase, literally the same 500k accounts of diehard idolfags subscribe from day 1 on 3-5 new holo accounts that will likely trigger youtube's anti-bot AI.

>>25307783
> Older fans get filtered by the NijiEN girls attitude and contents.
> Gray watchers piggy-bagging their streams to watch manjisanji don't donate or buy membership.
Is it still a good move to collab with male?

>>25308066
theres no basis for that until she does a good number of collabs

>>25305526
Hikakin has about 8M subs iirc, the JP ceiling is super high.

>>25305692
why do they need to? they don't lose anything for the company and bring occasional profits.

>>25305993
anon your date reps...

numberbros, is everyone watching Salami? Even Zeta...

>>25307504
Funny how it's 11 Vs 20, with most of them taking breaks.

>>25307565
People weren't biting the Salami posts so they went back to the previous hot bait.

>>25308213
No, what difference does it make?

So today Salome opens her SC and membership?

>>25307526
She's a theater kid.

>>25308074
mine's from playboard as well, and has MORE SCs counted for some of the girls than the other list.

>>25304173
You are posting in this thread so good riddance. I will report you to them make sure you will never get in

>>25308100
it's a decent guess based on her current audience demographics.

>>25308396
Nijisanji already has several /vt/ lurkers and posters. Having another one doesn't change anything.

>>25308110
>8m subs for their PewDiePie equivalent
>Super high ceiling
Even if we were to compensate for the fact that Vtubing is less niche in JP, it is still a gargantuan task for a Vtuber with JP only viewers to reach 1m.

I think Salome is the Japanese response to Gura. They probably got tired that a non Japanese person was the top vtuber.

>>25308479
Yeah i was surprised to know that almost everyone and their grandma in Japan know about this guy but he only have 8 mil sub.

>>25308520
Wasn't La+ the japanese Gura? She had the best debut or something.

>>25308552
Japan's population is only around 125 million after all.

>>25308585
no iroha had the highest debut
la+ was the first to debut. probably didn't get the same level of hype

Ame raiding Kaela

>>25308585
They gave up on her when they found out her rm was a whore.

>>25302158
How big jp youtube?

>>25308360
I don't think she talked about getting a membership yes, but monetization yes.

>>25302480
She's way too close to 1m for her to even slow down enough for her to NOT beat Gura's record.

>>25305526
Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m