/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25270723
Anon, your self control...

sounds like your a fag

If your happiness is solely dependent on vtubers then you need help

>>25270986
He was getting help from his oshi, but for you trannies it's le bad

>>25270723
can you elaborate on what you mean by "being parasocial"?

can't tell if meme or real

ill say nice things if real

I hope you're happy /vt/. OP is dead. You're laughing. Someone died because of what you did, and you're laughing.

>>25271044
Its fine to find enjoyment and escapism in vtubers, but if thats the only source of enjoyment in your life then unironically get help, it wont get better til you do

>>25271247
go back normalfag

>>25271142
And you're just using him to guilt trip others

>>25271300
Take your meds schizo

>>25270723
ok now go all the way and do the unalive

>>25270723
Don't let faggots tell you how to live or what you should do with your time. You have to live how you want life is to short and you cant get time passed by back anon. Live life on your own terms no one else's !

>>25271066
>>25270723
anyway unless you meant treating her like a legit girlfriend no reason to stop, and even then you wouldn't need to tone down because you're being a bad person or anything like that, but only because it can be bad for you to depend too much on someone else (in general), you deserve to have someone who can reciprocate

>>25271247
>get help
From who exactly?

>>25271454
a lot of people deserve a lot of stuff, doesn't mean they're gonna get any of it

>>25270723
it's what you deserve for letting twitterfags decide things for you

>>25271498
Doctor, therapist, a dog, literally anyone except this cesspit

>>25271498
Towa

>>25271541
ok, but I'm just saying if all his happiness derive from a single person it can become a problem, he can still improve even in the case he can't find a girlfriend, at least to not being suicidal if he doesn't watch her

>>25271322
Ok, and? I think murder would be higher on the list of unethical acts when compared to guilt tripping.

>>25271498
a therapist or a community of any kind, from religious ones to something hobby-focused, it's not even a matter of directly asking for help, just finding some sort of fulfillment aside/alongside the oshi

>>25270723
If you let /vt/ tell you what to do then you deserve it

>>25270723
You should kill yourself.

>>25271621
>>25271738
imagine falling for the therapy scam.

>>25270723
What you need to do is BECOME LAMY instead. You can't have a parasocial relationship with her when you ARE her

>>25271790
worked for me

>>25271840
Honestly it's kind of selfish for these /become/ lamy's to not give themselves to Lamy fans as girlfriends.
disrespectful desu

>>25271621
>>25271738
>le therapy
Kill yourself

>>25271846
You're still here, so clearly not

>>25271247
You will never be a woman

>>25271846
you being here just proved his point.

>>25271621
>>25271738
So basically instead of rely on a chuuba you should rely on cults/quack medicine/and unintelligent animals....and we are the ones who need help how???

perhaps you should consider accessing a mental healthcare professional.

At least you've realized your mistake, OP. Go back to your oshi, she'll forgive you. Unlike the trannies who would rather see you going through real misery than enjoying fake happiness. Fuck them.

Remember anons, can't have suicidal thoughts if you're dead

>>25271738
Most therapists are slightly garbage and are just going to get you on a Prescription that they got incentivized to give that quarter. Even the most well meaning one will have a problem that prevents proper treatment. I recommend getting help through other means

>>25270723
The trannys want everyone else to suffer like they are. Go back to your oshi, go back to your enjoyment.

>>25271247
Your axe wound will never be a proper vagina

>>25273372
Mental health professionals are all garbage pill mongers for the most part in the long term they'll throw a handful of different prescriptions at you till they find one that works just right for your brain chemistry and in the short term all they can do is repeat the same Zen none sense "You do matter" "your feelings are valid" "You should try (insert random life change here)" and its all bullshit there is literally nothing wrong with finding happiness out side of normal channels only faggots and pharama shills will tell you different

>>25271840
>You can't have a parasocial relationship with her when you ARE her
Not with that attitude!

>>25270723
Try a therapist. If you live in the US, my condolences.

>>25270723
Anon go back to your parasocial relationship it's not bad and it can motivate you a lot, don't listen to the normalfaggots that have infiltrated here

>>25270723
Fuck em anon. Go back to your wife if it motivates you to self improve. Better yet /become/

>>25270723
>get memed into stopping being parasocial with my oshi because it's bad apparently
A fucking manipulable faggot who takes /vt/ seriously should not exist in this world, kill yourself

>>25270723
Touch some fucking grass, work out, find your own happiness outside the void that is vtuber parasocial relationship. Use them as motivation if you must, but fucking hell go work on yourself first

>>25273639
maybe it's different were you live, but a psychologist can't prescribe you drugs like a psychiatrist

>>25271247
Go back

>>25270723
Being parasocial isn't bad, being parasocial is something everybody does all the time. "Parasocial" is nothing more than another word for a one-to-many relationship of any kind, that can be from supporting a politician to being attached to a fictional character to liking a celebrity. Don't let people trick you into thinking parasocial = bad because it isn't, the people who say that it is have parasocial relationships of their own and just don't realize that they fall under its definition too. Just Google "parasocial interaction" or "parasocial relationship" and see how many psychologists say it can be good and healthy for an individual.
What's not healthy is your suicidal thoughts and over-reliance on consooming media as a means to distract you from the issues with your life. Those are things you'll need to sort out on your own.

>>25273307
>>25273216
I basically never come here by now, but anyway in which world coming to 4chan is automatically a sign therapy don't work, fucking normalfags I swear

>>25271498
Masturbation, at least 7times day

>>25270723
>calls you parasocial and trash talks you
>proceeds to watch Xqc watch tik toc videos for 4hrs with 70k other people
>stream ends and switches to watching BR streamer watch Materchef with 30k other people
>later goes and watches anime with pokimane or toast with 20k other people

OP you fool, they are even more parasocial than you. The difference is you want a GF and they want friends. One is harder to achieve and maintain than the other.

>>25270986
Yeah but that's the point, there is no help. My entire family is dead and I ended up homeless as a teenager. Nobody fucking helped me. Not financially, not physically, not emotionally. I won't go into everything but I eventually got out of poverty and started working at a research lab. I'm the lead author of a paper. That's a big step up from being a teenager whose shirt rotted off their back. You know what makes me happy? Ina's retarded facial expressions.

Do I need help? Yes. Will society every admit that? No. Will they ever help me? No. If Vtubers are the only thing keeping this man alive, happy, and healthy, then let him have his weird blue haired elf girl. It's either this or a dramatic uptick in mass shootings, what do you prefer?

>>25271247
There is no help

>>25273959
Why does he need to find happiness elsewhere?

>>25270723
i hate it when you find happiness watching someone stream, then normies just label it as "parasocial". op, these people never felt true happiness as much as you did, best ignore them and just have fun watching your oshi.

>>25274005
You came to literally one of the slowest boards for one of the most obscure topics and chose this thread to larp as a tourist fucking kys

>>25274197
Because it will not reciprocate

>>25273347
>unintelligentr animals
wow anon, you decostructed the shit out of me, my world is shattered.
we all need to rely on something, and I explicitly said chuubas are fine, I wouldn't be on here, just saying for OP's own sake he probably should rely ALSO on something else

>>25274198
Well I mean it IS by definition parasocial, they're just wrong in thinking parasocial = bad

>>25274178
>You know what makes me happy? Ina's retarded facial expressions.
Haha, god bless you, anon. That made me laugh.

>>25270723
You're the retard that listened to Twitter trannoids

>>25271247
>incels can't refute this

>>25274215
>You came to literally one of the slowest boards for one of a topic you're interested about and chose this thread to not do the thing I'm accusing you to do!
an event completely unheard off, anon

REMEMBER WHAT NORMIES TOOK AWAY FROM YOU
MAKE SURE NOT THIS ONE TOO

Piece of advice, if something is making you sad then cut that off your life, anyways, you deserve it for taking anything posted here at face value.

>>25274178
>weird blue haired elf girl
not OP but hey!
she isnt weird! sometimes she is but its cute she's a dork!

>>25274330
My personal conspiracy theory is that Ina's model always has a slight squint in the eyes because her roommate is Asian

>>25274178
This. I’m was your stereo typical Latino 12 yr old workin in the fields at 100F. Did that every summer until I got out of Highschool. Now I’m supposed to feel sorry about blacks when they got outnumbered by white people out in the fields. Bitch pls don’t ever let media ever think for you.

>>25274394
Are normies in the room with you, Anon?

>>25270723

Do what your oshi does and find solacd at the bottom of bottles. Alternatively visit a school or a mall with high capacity automatic firearms. Its a great stress reliever.

>>25274575
i used to have terrible social anxiety but i got over it by buying a gun and pointing it at people when i feel nervous. it really works.

>>25270723
>now i have no motivation and my suicidal thoughts are back
What's the problem? You faggots with "depression" never do anything so suicidal thoughts don't matter. You'll never actually kill yourselves.

>Being happy is now bad thing to be
These sad, sad people have had cynicism run their lives and now they want other people to stoop down to their level in some kind of sadistic ritual

Doesn't everyone deserve to not feel lonely? Why deny people of that, even if its a fabricated illusion of love through a parasocial relationship with a streamer, even if its a small portion of the real thing?

If you're this emotionally dependent on a vtuber, you need help. A friend, a dog, a cat, a doctor something.

Lamy killed millions

>>25274666
those who aren't willing to put the effort in to get what they want deserve nothing at all.

>>25270723
Just go see a therapist, anon

>>25274785
god you saviorfags are hopeless, i get it now why generals hate your kind because you always sour the mood

>>25270723
>trusting anyone on the internet ever

>>25274385
>W...w.. Well your wrong!!!
Fucking rope faggot

>>25270723
There is nothing wrong with parasocial interaction. At least not any more than with a thousand other messed up things about the modern world. People who can't stand their parents, unironically celebrate Pride, don't believe in anything other than the current thing, listen to gangsta rap, play modern videogames or watch shitty movies all day, don't work out and willingly work day jobs will go around telling others what it means to be mentally adjusted. Ridiculous.
That being said, you need to be in control. Is the interaction actually what you want? Is it preventing you from achieving your goals? Do you act in a way that would please your oshi? Is it something you like aesthetically? If you are not pleased with something about it, can you fix it? Don't just become a slave to a virtual succubus and waste away.

>>25274280
When you can't even spell unintelligent right...I mean...copy and paste even...and you want people to take anything you have to say seriously let alone your stance on mental health advice???

>>25270723
>Listen to what faggots in this board said
At least you have learned your lesson. It's okay to enjoy what you want, anon. If you look much closely, parasocial relationship is not that much worse than taking meds regularly or talking to some imaginary being in your head like what normalfags do to cope with their reality

>>25274644
i don't think people that kill themselves would be updating you with details on how they died.

>Bro JUST work on yourself

God this sounds like the people who would sell you on a self help book, people that talk at "mindfullness" seminars, or worse, the deplorable "life coach" grifters.

I would take a parasocial relationship with a vtuber anyday other those, at least it will be way more emotionally satisfying than any of that grifty nonsense.

>>25270723
A parasocial relationship with your oshi is the same relationship you'd have with a muse. There is nothing wrong in finding comfort, happiness and motivation thanks to your oshi, you simply have to not let it consume you. Of course this is just another opinion which doesn't answer the "then what happens after?" question.

>>25275145
I've never understood how taking a handful of pills daily because you honestly trusted the opinion of someone based sole on a "degree" they probably only got by the skin of their teeth? How can this thought process be normal

>>25270723
natural selection

>>25270723
Getting filtered out by normie Twitter bullshit. This is why I don't go to the internet for advice.

>It's okay to enjoy what you want, anon.

>>25273102
You have to earn it.

>>25275024
>NO YOU!
nice stutterposting, now suck my dick

>>25270723
I think being parasocial is okay to a certain extent because it makes you want to improve yourself in various things i.e physically/emotionally/learning a language or whatever that makes you want to be closer to your oshi but you have to realize that's all it'll ever be.
There's nothing wrong with loving them if you accept it's one sided.

the only time parasocial relationships are actually bad are when you harm yourself because of the relationship - physically, monetarily, mentally, etc.
if your oshi motivates you to be a better version of yourself then go crazy, but just remember that putting all your love into one thing it can destroy your life when that thing is gone so it's healthy to search for new people, hobbies, activities that make your life fulfilling
I don't know if OP was being serious when he made this post but if you are and you read this good luck anon hope you can figure life out
also wanted to share with you that I've busted more nuts to your oshi than any other chubba

>>25275738
Can someone tell me what an oshi is anyways? I assume it means like "the vtuber anime girl that you fell in love with" or something like that

>>25275776
The one you support the most basically, It doesn't necessarily involve romantic feelings but most of the time people usually fall into that category so it gets associated with it.

Did someone say parasocial?

>>25275776
Just get out newfag, don't burden people with the task of repeating information you can find out with a google search, for your sake because you are too lazy to find things out on your own.

>>25275900
listen cunt I'm just here to talk to people
everyone knows you can just google "define [word]" but I wanted a conversation
gay homo faggot

Reminder to all GFEfags
https://youtu.be/EIRcUI-arkY
https://youtu.be/EIRcUI-arkY
https://youtu.be/EIRcUI-arkY

>>25275892
Hinckley would have got her too if he actually managed to kill the bastard

>>25270723
she's still waiting for you...

>>25276034
"Conversation"

>Hey what does this mean
>It means this:
>Oh cool thanks

NICE CONVERSATION

>>25276118
THANKS NIGGER

>>25271247
>this kills the gachicuck

>>25276065
and then she says she wants to have sex with her fans

>>25276065
All Marine's advice is good and should be internalized, but it doesn't change the fact that Mikeneko is my girlfriend and I am in love with her.

>>25274347
You can't even define what the help is or where it comes from. You don't want to see these people be happy, you want them to be miserable and you want to mock them.

>>25276104
r-really?

>>25270723
That's exactly what she wants. She wants incels to off themselves.

>>25270723
So that's why Lammy's been down. She misses you, OP.

>>25271247
Nice bait. However, a good therapist would tell anyone to keep watching vtubers if it makes them feel even a little bit better. Unless they plan on having kids. At which point you take the toys away and make them become a slave to their wife. So, do you want to get married and have kids, or do you just want happiness? There is no in between.

>>25270723
Return to Lamy anon

Do a back flip.

>>25271498
blogpost on /vt/ like everyone else
or write a manifesto and shoot up a school, that'll get you 3 hots, a cot, and government bucks for the rest of your life

>>25275084
>willingly work day jobs
That's a necessary evil, not a mental illness. Unless you mean enjoying and deriving pride from being a disrespected wagecuck, in which case I agree.

>>25270723
It was just a buffer, anon. You would have felt the withdrawels someday, better deal with them while you are below 40 years old

>>25270723
>caving into peer pressure in troon world
Retard

>>25274178
Just end it then. God, what a pathetic fuck. Lost everything so instead of fighting back you decided you cope and wallow in your misery while pretending an anime girl is your girlfriend? What are you even doing on this planet anymore?

>>25282109
Tell us how many fights of any kind that you've been in, friend. Go on.

>>25282109
He was authoring a research paper by the sounds of it, what have you done of any value with your life?

>>25282109
But he's doing fine, he's still fighting, that anime girl helped him to live another day, you might not like it or even understand but you can't be sure what the future holds, maybe anon will meet his future wife tomorrow or maybe we will get nuked by Russia non of this will matter, as long you are alive the possibilities are endless.

>>25274178
get off this fucking board and do something else anon

>>25271621
>>25271738
You gonna pay for mine?

>>25270723
>suicidal thoughts are back
Do it faggot
Be a man for ONCE in your life

>>25271738
>therapy
Enjoy paying a troon $150 an hour just for them to tell you to touch grass more

>>25270723
parasocial is like the south park speech about marijuana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4cASkBAp0
without the parasocial, you have to face up to the real problems in your life. it'll be painful at first, but thats part of the healing process.

>>25270723
You're weak OP, you don't lewd your oshi enough

>>25282109
And what are you doing, exactly?

>>25274178
I wish you the best, anon. I genuinely do. Your lab work accomplishment sounds pretty nice though. It's indeed a big step up in life. I would hope you could go autism about that aspect and become a workaholic whose career-based narcissism is the source of your motivation: you want to have an even better work status, so you focus on that goal even harder

>>25270723
>Drops religion
>Loses motivation
Who would have guessed

>>25270723
why the fuck are you listening to normalfags? you are a moron

>>25274178
Based. Do whatever makes you happy, you will make it.
>>25282109
Not commiting suicide is fighting. You are the only pathetic fuck here.

>>25284200
Call me when you figure out how to stop the corrupt elites and humans losing their will to live leading to humanity dying off

>>25284893
i wish i could

>>25270986
flawed logic, you cant depend on your family or anyone then

>>25274215
>slowest boards
Since when? I haven't been keeping up the post speed wars. Has /vt/ finally reclined? Say it ain't so

>>25270723
you're welcome anon, glad we could help. Enjoy the rest of your life, and remember that elf girl you stepped away from? She's mine now...
...and I am now her...

>>25285538
ogey

>>25282109

>>25273347
well yeah because you should realize that your oshi is never going to love you or be with you but you seem to have this delusion that they will soo you tell me if you need help

>>25270723
>listening to normalfag tourists
You could literally marry your 2view and live happily ever after and they would still insist your 2view doesn't actually care about you

Why use a literal whore?

>>25289138
>insist your 2view doesn't actually care about you
As they do not. You're a viewer and that's that . virtual whores whispering other wise does change that.

>>25289791
Exactly what I mean. You have no idea who said 2views are or who their fans are. You have no clue how many extremely mentally ill people who are desperate for each other's validation there are.

>>25282109
>This is the retarded nigger telling you to go to the therapist

>>25271247
Everyone needs an anchor to prop themselves up on

>>25270723
I'm sure this has been said several times in the thread, but depending on another person to maintain your own wellbeing is never a good idea, especially if you don't even know them in person. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment and more suffering.

How gfe is Lamy? I never watch her

I'm unironically at my happiest when I take break from vtubers and stop scrolling through vt all day. This hobby is absolutely terrible for your mental health. I don't know why I keep coming back.

>>25290104
>You have no clue how many extremely mentally ill people who are desperate for each other's validation there are.
Sometimes I feel guilty as if I'm taking advantage of this, but it's already the nature of her fandom that being a gachikoi if practically normal. And of course, it's not just her own validation she wants, it really seems like she has such a massive heart