/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25188441
Just like your mom

>>25188463
fpbp

Right. hoes don't stream 24/7- dead.
Watch someone else when you're bored, schizos

>>25188441
the calm before the storm, believe it dattebayo!

>>25188538
You ever wonder why there aren't more threads complaining about holoEN not streaming?
They left. Hf coping

Damn, if they keep dropping numbers like this, they'll reach nijisanji numbers in a month

>>25188441
I can see Gura going full Ayame by next year

what the fuck am i supposed to be seeing here? literally explain??
Fauna had a membership stream today, ninner is on break, and i think irys and ame stream a decent amount?
dont give a shit about the pink dipshit or australian ayame, theyre both lost causes

>>25188441
Keep telling yourself that

>>25188441
Now include their Minecraft streams. They don't have anything buff besides Minecraft and collabs

>>25188441
I'm gonna say something that needs to be said so get your meds now before reading next sentence.

Gura lost her momentum because she's worried about stream overlaps but she doesn't realize that she is the momentum of Hololive itself and if she stops then hololive stops growing too. Most of the people who follow Gura didn't even know about the other holos in the start, she's a gateway to the rest of hololive.

By sabotaging her growth she indirectly sabotaged the whole company.

>>25189351
>Gura lost her momentum because she's worried about stream overlaps
https://youtu.be/o9R-AHMR1is

>>25188917
>irys and ame stream a decent amount
You only think this because besides kiara, no one else in the branch streams. If you look at NijiEN, Kiara comes 14th out of the group for hours streamed over the last 3 months, while Ame and Irys only stream more than Mysta. Your standards are below rock bottom right now.

>>25189372
Cope.

>>25189464
>muh hours
And yet they might as well be all at 0 because I won’t watch a single second of NijiEN.

>>25189509
>streamers aren't supposed to stream because [insert cope]

>>25189464
Imagine being beating in streaming hours by a mentally ill guy that has to take breaks and meet a professionel otherwise he breaks down.
The fuck is their excuse?

>>25189464
>Gura's gradual time reduction
It's gonna reach <1 hours streamed eventually, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZwSzGYtvWg

>>25189527
Again, it doesn’t matter if they do or do not if I’ll never watch them. Feel free to do mental backflips as to how that’s in your favor.

>>25189464
Irys and Ame aren't streaming with men.

>>25189571
You aren't the center of the universe, kid

>>25188441
Fauna had a con to attend over the weekend, one she put in a lot of work for since the q&a with batsu was her idea, and still showed up on Gura's WWE stream after it was over even if she could've taken a break because she was working for about 12 hours between set up, the actual panels and the meet and greet. She still did a 3 and a half hour member stream today too. Not sure why you're bringing her into this

>>25188917
>ninner is on break
girl who streams 10 hours a week needs a "break" lolololol

>>25188441
Tsunderia sisters, is this our chance??

>>25188441
Gura had all the resources she could possibly ever want, and still crapped out some shit not even day 1 Holofightz would put out the barn door

>>25189640
>Tsunderia
You haven't been keeping up with the small corpos, have you?

>>25189610
most of holoEN streams 10hours a week or less . . .
Actual mentally ill mysta streams more than that

>>25189599
Oh nyo...
And?

>>25189712
yeah but he's a guy

>>25189787
Good point, but Mysta is a pussy.

>>25188441
>Gura WWE mega-buff game
>only gets 600k views
Historically, even a casual stream would get over 1 million views
>Irys zoo animal tier list
>88k
HoloEN is expected to break 100k on every stream. This is a huge disappointment
>Ame Dr Appointment coomerbait stream
>125k
Very low, coomerbait streams are usually when the entire subscriberbase piles in for a huge showing. But it barely surpasses 100k?
>Kronii forgotten land
>92k
Wow wasn't Kronii supposed to be one of the leading holoEN's, not breaking 100k is very surprising
>Mumei goodbye stream
>142k
Sayonara streams should be mega buff, but it's not even 150k? Also what's with all the breaks and vacations they're taking?
>Ina birthday stream
>526k
This is a fairly good showing. But still, for a holoEN birthday stream to be less than 1 million views would be unthinkable back in the day.
>Sana Kirby stream
>43k
unironically Niji tier, although not that surprising considering many of the Niji girls have passed her subs
>Kiara zelda stream
>60k
not that surprising for Kiara, nobody likes her. But it is surprising that the stream is 7 hours long and still only has that many. Longer stream should accumulate more views.
>Mori house flipper
>125k
Mori should be betting 500k views per video, what went wrong?
>Fauna nintendo stream
>76k
Wow, that's really weak. And she even made a custom avatar for it.

>>25189464
>your standards

Meds now. Why would you need standards to decide who to watch based on how many hours they stream. You have no stake in their success and neither do I. Don't like them, don't watch.

>>25189996
incompetent company

>>25190020
But anon, that's just the point. Hololive is bragging all the time that their girls make so much money they don't NEED to stream very much. The nijisanji retort to that argument, is why would you invest time in someone that barely even streams, when there's other people streaming constantly? Hololive often has long dead hours, when the fans are sitting around doing nothing, meanwhile there's lots of fun niji streams going on and a huge variety to choose from. But they refuse to look in that direction.

Do you think that holo chuubas grew disgusted and tired of their minecon-tier audience?

>>25190097
Interesting point, however, Niji involves men, so I won’t be doing that.

>>25188538
I found you and your atrocious typing style. Stop being a nigger and go back.

>>25189996
>Mori
We finally broke the cuckbeats.

>>25190133
I think this is kind of an insane opinion and mega-autism.

So anons
Which HoloEN girl is going to be rape-corrected first?

>>25190193
Sana

>>25189464
You should kill yourself.

HoloEN is in a big recline right now. Their sub growth has completely stalled. Their own company is abandoning them and focusing on the JP branch treating them like 2nd class citizens.

Live viewer counts are still very strong. But I think it will start to decrease, because they aren't getting new people

>>25189599
Yes I am. You are literally a federal agent gaslighting me into hating my chubas on a Korean basket weaving forum. Cope.

>>25189351
So she's the american Hana?

>>25190097
>Hololive often has long dead hours, when the fans are sitting around doing nothing,
actually i have hobbies and i don't just stare at the wall whenever the stimulus box isn't producing lights

>>25190168
Think whatever you want. Whale unicorns still won't touch niji whores.

>>25189351
Based and true.

>>25190249
>Their own company is abandoning them and focusing on the JP branch treating them like 2nd class citizens.
It's from day 1

>>25189464
Quality>Quantity
I'd rather have lovingly prepared 5 star michelin gourmet meal made by the best chefs than some fast food mcdonalds burger slop.
The same applied with hololive vs nijisanji.

>>25190346
It's for fulfilling different timeslots where anons could be burgers, seaniggers, euros and etc with different timezones. You can't just generalize "actually i have hobbies and i don't just stare at the wall whenever the stimulus box isn't producing lights" for all anons here, that's retarded. Now I'm not attacking you, just stating my opinion.

>>25190298
SHIT!
JERRY THEY FOUND US OUT!
CANCEL OPERATION CHUUBADUUBA!!
I REPEAT!
CANCEL OPERATION CUUBADUUBA!!

Is this the numbers thread?

If all vtubers crash and burn, it will be a day for me to celebrate. Good riddance to low-effort bullshit.

>>25189464
>If you look at NijiEN
no i don't think i will

>>25189996
Idk why you keep holding that something that doesn't happen. Btw, Miko's two first 2 WWE stream got less than 600k views and is now getting 800k views for the same duration as gura despite Gura having 3-4 times less live viewers.
Ame's wasn't coomerbait bait in fucking way you retard, also was happening overlapping with Gura's WWE.
Anyways, no point explaining more since you don't even watch streams. All the numbers are relatively normal for the live viewership they have.

>>25190475
Hololive fans are the smartest people who have busy lives that work in fields that command the highest of intellect which rewards them with wealth. Not having constant streams is a good thing because they can make fan content that blows away anything else and easily toss out akasupas like nothing due to their status.

The only ones pandering to poor stupid people with constant streams are the Nijis and they are suffering for it.

>>25189464
At least they're streaming more than vsho..oh
At least everyone streamed more than Hime.

>>25190475
>You can't just generalize "actually i have hobbies and i don't just stare at the wall whenever the stimulus box isn't producing lights" for all anons here, that's retarded.
It's deserved though. If you actually sit around mindlessly waiting for a chuuba you're probably a fucking grey too.

>>25190593
That shit is fucking sad, but then again these are just whores with anime avatars and a camera.

>>25190685
You say that as if the HoloEN members do some strong RP or something but fundamentally the difference in minimal. They all act like regular ass people 95% of the time and occasionally throw in references to their lore.

>>25190809
They’re all the same to me, I just can’t imagine why people indulge in this utter nonsense.

Just debut HoloEN 3 already so I can unsubscribe from all the lazy holo vtubers I keep up with.

>>25190492
Chuubyduubyduu

>>25190097
>Nijikek believes that you cannot have other hobbies than watching VTubers, and is projecting that on Hololive fans
RUMAO

>>25189996
>>43k
>unironically Niji tier, although not that surprising considering many of the Niji girls have passed her subs

Thats fucking disgusting, even through Elira and Pomu passed her in subs
to put in perspective on the same day
>Elira - ib:remake - 41,990 views
>Pomu - minecraft streams - 40,830 views
Fucking active streamers get less than Sana.

Council making Connor right is a sad joke

I told you yesterday, a this posts are made by nijiniggers trying to get HOLOJPCHADS and HOLOENCHADS to fight each other just to shill their "livers" later

>>25190583
>>25190665
These are some weirdest and illogical arguments you could have responded. But I guess I've expected too much from EN faggots to begin with.

>>25190985
>it's another nijipleb can't comprehend holochad IQ thread

>>25189464
Kys faggot

>>25191083
>it's another holotard who can't offer a decent argument like some third-worlder pleb

>>25190157
>SEAniggers trying to shit post
Kek

Sorry EN bros
But you should’ve knew that this was eventually gonna happen
EN vtubers will never work as hard as the JP vtubers
The Main branch will always welcome you

>>25188441
It's no longer Fall 2020. EN Vtubing as a whole has cooled off and is in a recline. HoloEN is just the bellweather of this.

>>25189351
More like cover sabotaged Gura

>>25191952
The EN management sabotaged everyone by dumb decisions every other week and hiring 5 lazy whores as their second gen and a tranny as their manager.

>>25190108
They are. JP kick those audience away by playing another games. While EN can't seem to escape the block game hell

>>25188441
oh dear

>>25189464
All the hours for april are fucking wrong, who the hell did this ? And I'm pretty sure it's the same for the rest

>>25188441
2 more weeks until niji en surpasses hololive.

>>25189996
based

Thanks for the laugh Anon

>>25189464
So many seething holobabs. Beautiful.

>>25188441
wtf is this shit quality collage

>>25188441
Every minute they don't stream means they are having sex with their boyfriends.

While we are all here.

>>25190948
Now compare daily viewers per channel.

>>25189464
Based, HoloEN was a mistake

Nijicucks are coping so hard. They're grasping at any straw they can to try and lord their supposed 'superiority' over Hololive.

Gura and Ame are the only two that can realistically be shat on because of their reduced streaming hours recently. Everyone else has either BEEN streaming, or are on an actual break.

Also, Sana isn't Hololive. She's just dead space no one wishes exists.

Such a sad, sad life they live.

"The numbers, Mason! What do they mean?" "You said it was fucking high viewed. What happened now?"

I knew this day would come, but it was so fast...is it really all over Holobros? Do I really have to watch NijiEN now? Is there no other option??? What happened? What went wrong? It was all so promising....

>>25189464
>sana and gura
What the fuck

It's not about numbers, it's about which girls actually stream a do their job right.
Based on EN side, it's easy to say only Kiara, Amelia, Irys, Bae and Mori take their job as a serious thing.
If you like Holo EN just stick to those, otherwise if you like the rest you faggots are just enabling women to live confortably without working for it.

>>25189996
these are actually the correct numbers when compared to the CCV and stream time
take amelia for example, she peaked at 11.5k and is almost at 130k vod views on an hour and 30 minutes stream (rounded up)
this is the correct number, compare it to the minecraft stream that is 2 hours long and has about the same peak but is 15k views less, because there was less churn in that
back in lets say q1-2 of 2021 this ame stream would easily have between 250k-300k views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipZOd9ESdlo for example, now you might say
>but that vod is more than a year old
you'd be surprised how little VODs like this grow after the first week.
even as early as januray/feb this year, their vod views were much better compared to their ccv
this all started with haachama's channel btw, she was also getting MASSIVE views compared to her small ccv (getting 100k for a 2k stream) but that's impossible anymore and she barley breaks 100k on a 12k stream, just like the other jps

>>25196556
It's over. HoloEN is dying and I will be the last one standing for my oshi

The funniest part this week in when i was watching vtubers in my mom's house who knows i like them asked:
"Is Gura streaming today?"
I respond:
"No, she's probably on a break, she haven't streamed in a while"
Then in a based tone she asks me:
"What? She doesn't want to work?"

>>25197024
Based mom
Fans are the weird ones to tolerate their laziness

>>25192083
>>25191952
>>25197024
Gura is probably lazy herself but I bet management botching whatever game or idea she has made her even more lazier.

>>25195584
>numberschizos completely incapable of reading the numbers they worship
Every day /#/ proves themselves more and more the most pitiful group

>>25197111
Management doesn't stop the other ENs from trying though. She could try harder at least.
>Idea gets rejected.
>Come up with something else.

>>25197301
>that something else gets rejected too
>comes up with something else
>it's another Minecraft stream because she has literally no choice
Wow anon sure it's easy!

What is everyone going to do with their time, now that EN is over? I was thinking of maybe taking up gardening or painting or something.

>>25191952
Always blame management for Gura's lack of effort.
Meanwhile Mori is making a new song and Amelia made a stream about injecting illegal substances into her fans buttholes (I never expected that one to bypass management)

Congrats to you fags i was neutral towards nijiEN for a year but i am an antichad now, as if the chinks and the infighting weren't enough.

>>25197320
how about thinking of ideas that aren't retarded? can you give me an idea that as rejected as of late? you people always try to make excuses and throw the blame on someone else

>>25197472
>can you give me an idea that as rejected as of late?
Any game she likes and wants to play but has no permissions for it.

>>25197491
so her only "talent" is playing games? and if she doesn't get the game she likes, she throws a tantrum and stops streaming? actual retardation.

>>25197416
Success brings jealousy desuwa

>>25197570
You're goalposting now.
All I'm saying is that management is retarded and doesn't help, so it wouldn't be surprising for someone to get demoralized on being forced to do some shitty gimmick shit that you don't like but the fans would eat anyway or to play Minecraft all day long.

>>25197491
>Can't even post Skyrim VR clip
Why Gura is banned from doing things other than streams?

>>25197664
Skyrim clip... Wow

>>25198101
It was one of the few things that she was willing to talk about
God knows how many rejected idea other than that

>>25189464
This doesn't include the many hours Millie has spent in collabs but not streaming her POV.
She's spent over 20 hours just watching Petra play through Hades alone.

>>25188441
Vtubing is healing

>>25197024
tell your mom to apply for EN3

>>25189464
>mysta
I don't care about men.

>>25195782
You are a woman and you know the rules.

>>25189464
>If you look at NijiEN
Why would I do that?

Shouldn’t the wrestling stream be an easy 1 Mil chumcucks what happened?

>>25189464
>Kiara and Elira are my oshis
I CAN'T KEEP UP

>>25188441
it's official, OP is a faggot.

>>25197301
Sure, she COULD try harder at fighting them. But that's never been her personality. Cover frankly has no idea how to properly manage for someone who isn't a motivated self-starter constantly trying to come up with new stuff in the hopes something gets through. They only know how to reject ideas, with no idea how to proactively research and push their talents into fresh new creative endeavours. Their stance should be more akin to that of the mainstream music industry, where the managers are constantly dealing with PITA artists and coaxing them into putting something out, bending over backwards to make everything work out and babying them along. Instead Cover's managers seem to have a stance of "UGH, I have to do WORK" whenever Gura so much as asks them to get permissions for something. It shouldn't even be Gura asking for permissions, they should be out there getting permissions full-time and prodding her to try some of them out. Flatly, they're lazy and incompetent, and are squandering their talents and the now-dwindling viral energy.

>>25189464
I knew that most NijiENs streamed more but it is fucking with me that Petra, someone who I always thought streamed very little, mostly short collabs, streamed almost as much these last three months as Kiara, who I have always seen as a stream monster

>>25188441
>Iphone filename

haachama today forced management to let her stream what she wanted, even though they had her promise it's a one time thing, she still did it
why can't gura do that? she's bigger and more important than haachama, isn't she?

>>25188441
Yes, popular things die down after awhile and might be good thing, vtubers at their best when it was niche anyways.

>>25188441
These are massive numbers for streamers, they get more views than some of the top streamers on Twitch.

>>25189996
>>Sana Kirby stream
>>43k
> unironically Niji tier
By this time it feels like you're beating a dead dog. And she knows about dead dogs and pity streams.

>>25204811
Haachama has JPmem's unity.

>>25190492
>>25190900
I GET KNOCKED DOWN, BUT I GET UP AGAIN

>>25204811
She's a wuss who backs down at the slightest resistance from management

>>25205357
that makes zero (0) sense
what the fuck is that exactly? isn't myth supposed to be " the golden gen"?

>>25205667
>Golden Gen
>Myth
RUMAO the absolute delusion from EOP

>>25206206
I'm just repeating what they're saying anon!
hololive wouldn't be where it's at right now if it weren't for myth, the golden gen!
gura has 4 million subs you know!! and mori has 2 million subs!!
ccv? g-gura has great vod views! and mori and the rest of the girls have a lot of likes!!! i-it's youtube's fault!

>>25197024
Very nice story Kiara...

>>25206585
Who are you talking about? Take your meds HoloEN will never be the golden gen, because HoloENbronies glorified a lazy shart that made a song for Belle Delphine, and a fat wigger that cannot rap properly even if her life depended on it

>>25191521
Ah yes the HoloENcope as NijiEN is inclining

>>25197111
She should be like more daring holos and literally just not ask permission (other than copyright stuff).

Everyone at holo en besides Ina and the couple big earners just seem so dead and disheveled,
its so weird seeing this happen in real time.

>>25190144
Stop being racist and go back to /pol/.

>>25207735
It's all thanks to garbage management. They hate working for hololive but they make good money and don't want to leave.

>>25207901
Id like to blame management too, but I feel like they are doing what they can with cover.
And if the talent is unmotivated because of cover, there isn't much management can do

>>25208059
>there isn't much management can do
eh... stop being sucked?

>>25189464
Why is Nijisanji staff allowed to post here? They should go shill their branch on reddit or beg youtube reaction channels to watch their livers.

>>25189464
>this nigga made a spreadsheet to prove HoloEN fans don't have enough streams to watch
you seem like the one with too much time on your hands lmao

>>25204811
This is why gura hates haachama, she hates the freedom haachama has that she herself can't achieve because she's too scared to fight management back
To gura, haachama is a bird that more often than not flies too close to the sun, only for her wings to grow back, to then again fly close to the sun... While gura is locked in a cage unable to have even 10% of the freedom haachama has, to her haachama takes this freedom for granted given how many times she's flown close to the sun

>>25188463
baaaased

>>25190451
Based
/Thread

The hard truth /vt/ will never accept is that HoloEN has always been a sub-par branch when compared to the JPs and honestly even to most IDs. The only reason they're so popular and circlejerked over is because 90% of its fans are EOP normalfags who simply don't have acess to better content to compare it to in the vtuber space

>>25189464
Gura streams, she just does shorter and more frequent streams. She goes an hour or three at a time several times a week. I'd rather the talent take care of themselves rather than burn themselves out.

>>25190685
Fuck you dude. Ironmouse is better than every streamer in NijiEN.

>>25189464
It's more interesting that almost all of their hours are decreasing. More collaborations?

>>25216773
go watch your shit eater indogfag.

>>25204811
"Stupid Haachama getting a statue in VRChat, I am going to get a statue but in real life instead"

WHY ARE ARE THESE WHORES LAZY!

The absence of streams actually gave me a reason to start streaming, before I wouldn't want to stream for fear of missing out on streams.

It's a holiday weekend. Most people are grilling burgers with their family.
2 members were at anime Boston.

>>25189464
This is the equivalent of having a giant plate of shit, and looking down on people eating regular portions of decent food

en streams in the middle of the night for civilized countries. they will never learn

>>25217244
>I'd rather the talent take care of themselves rather than burn themselves out.
Too bad they all got burnt out anyway while not even streaming.

>>25216773
Best Post ITT

>>25189464
Why do anons on this board readily believe any information that's presented on a chart or spreadsheet without anything to back it up?

>>25188628
But anon, you can’t fall in reverse!

>>25190891
Why the fuck are you /here/ then?