/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>25113382
We have already seen their financials, right?

>>25113588
It was bad but at least people put a token effort to pretend like it wasn't, the leak just took the leashes off

>>25113525
yeah, I was indifferent to niji since I have too much on my plate as is, otherwise i probably would watch them since i watched ars for a bit.
But, since the talent seem to be the same as the niji schizos here,i'm not interested in watching

>>25113637
Non public companies don't share financials, ever.

/#/ is declining.

>>25113726

>>25113589
do you think nishizawa looks at herself when she's drawing that?

>>25113637
Just a yearly report, not anywhere near the level of publicly traded company.

>>25112986
update. although miko's was heading to a peak at 55 mins in. not sure if someone ended around then.

>>25113968
Westerners have a lower attention span, the numbers will jump when the fights start

>>25113968
There's really no need to compare. Gura is buffed by what Miko's later entries ended up pulling, but also there was no way for her to ever just jump right into Miki+9 holos in VC numbers, even if this timeslot had the holo viewerbase to allow it

Yagoo is pulling out the big guns, the Nijikiller goes straight for Desuwa's timeslot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b59kreP24ac

the thread is pretty slow for a gura stream. did the shitposters get banned or something?

>>25114145
Pfft. 50k tops while Salome pulls the usual 100k.

>>25114096
to be fair, most jops won't know about this stream since she posted the frame/tweeted about it at around 5 am jst and started streaming at 9am jst.
so anyone who went to sleep before her tweet wouldn't know they need to wake up

Need someone to correct if I'm wrong but this is an abnormal hour for Watame to stream isn't it? Is she taking over a vacant slot or is something else? Geting 10k in indie shit is also nice

>>25114146
numbers are slow. people are either watching or doing other things

>>25114187
I'd agree if Aqua started on primetime. I'm thinking around 20-35k.

met "z"s her way onto the tally...

>>25113679
Yeah, people under estimate the discord leak just because the companies themselves didn't do anything. It was one of the landmark events in the history of this board and made any possible peace between the fans impossible. It was a big deal.

>>25114251
she started extremely early for a sunday, but it's not unheard of, however it is kind of weird for her, but she also tried going super early yesterday and it worked out great for her
also, this stream is S+ tier comfy

>>25114146
Gura is getting her regular numbers, nothing to talk about.

>>25114146
this just proves nijifans are the majority of numberfags.

>>25114267
So, besides the one Z I saw on a Mori stream and one on Watame, has any other Holomem gotten Z'd?

>>25114267
Why there is many z. Is putin try to speak with us?

>>25114146
the seafags are asleep

>>25114145
No one can stop Salome right now. Not Aqua, not Miko, not Pekora, not Marine, no one. She is just having the kind of never-seen-before hype from VTubers. There hasn't been any VTuber ever managed to get so much attention from nips (both VTuber fans and normies). Salome is just kind of VTuber Jesus atm, that's about it.
Hololive will have to wait until her hype start slowing down first before they can pose a real, consistent challenge - which doesn't seem to be the case anytime soon. Maybe a month or two down the road, but definitely not now.

>>25114267
Beatiful symmetric N in middle

>>25114145
no matters who they all will be mogged by desuwa-hime , Riku sama can't let them make him look bad before IPO is over wink wink

salome gaining traction in the korean market. it'll be hilarious that after nijiKR being a massive flop, salome would be the one that would pierce the korean market

https://twitter.com/omamo_onininare/status/1530465748438888453

https://twitter.com/vtcaru/status/1530431494870605830

>>25114475
how fortuitous
I shall now invest in Anycolor's IPO

>>25114475
The Oyabun of Numbers

Thread is slow, which is good.
Now i'll take my leave. Abayo motherfuckertachi

>>25114508
>1k likes on both
GAINING TRACTION!
reminds me of the other retards convinced Kobo is taking all the chink fujos

>>25114475
Honestly, I'm glad Niji is back on top. Cover got lazy and now the company with the better talents is back on top.

>>25114535
Nah.
That's the peon's play.
The REAL play is to start contacting some shady flip viewfarms and pay them off to say they viewfarmed Salome.
Then, set up an 'investigative report' using these 'third party sources' into the shady business of viewfarms on livestreams. Then, release it juuuuusssst as the IPO is a go.
Swoop in and buy as the FUD sets in and share prices tank, then make a killing when the price goes back up once the numbers show what the stock is really worth.
Of course, none of this stuff is on your hands and is contracted out to assorted third parties via other third parties to appear 'fair and unbiased' in the reporting.

prepare for another 80k+ stream holobroni

In smol corpos news, Kawaii manage to get their KS funded.

>Most popular Niji is the one without any immediately obvious Nijisanji branding
Really makes you think. Any Color trying to escape their poor reputation?

>>25114715
Nice for them

>>25114715
that's some serious money people putting up. good for them

>>25114715
>My dear Charzu in 3D
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>25114715
Nice.

28k breached
Looks like it's picking up the pace now

>>25114689
>better talents
>They are dominated by some fag who plays Apex for 12 hours a day
Yeah, better talents

>>25114475
Strong solo debut and nothing else really going on have let her have a bit of a perfect storm. She's heavily outperforming, but considering how fast she packed on subs between debut and the current day you'd have expected a lot more turning into the stream. She's not bad, but it remains to be seen what sort of attention she can hold after the short term. There is a lot of churn happening there. I don't know how many of those suddenly interested normies will stick with her, move to other vtubers or just abandon the interest entirely.

>>25114831
And who isn't even good at the game, you forgot about that.

>>25114689
>Niji is back on top
It's literally one person less than a week into their debut. Stop shitposting.

>>25114337
Some people dropped NijiEN because of it. In my case it added to a long list of disappointments and then finally the Pomu off pako threesome was the nail in the coffin.

>>25114827
Nope.

>>25114752
kuzuha doesn't put nijisanji on his shit too, and mito only remembers to add nijisanji on her titles once in a blue moon, it was never compulsory

>>25114347
Yeah I noticed that morning streams for her are doing great. Which is a blessing for me since my schedule finally matches with my oshi.

EN gold secured
JP gold on the other hand....
are we losing holobros?

today's supas, jesas koyo

>25114987
You should consider necking yourself rather than larping as a holofag or nijifag.

>>25114858
I've been watching her from the beginning and I'm already kind of getting tired of it. Her stream is just pedal to the medal from the second it starts and it gets tiring. I actually bounced after about 40ish minutes during yesterdays stream. I want a more chill stream/zatsudan where she just talks with us. Of course that will probably be in her dumb kayfabe.

Don't get me wrong, she is good, but the entire act is just sensory overload and gets a bit exhausting. I don't think I'll be a regular viewer anymore.

>>25115013
Koyo has so much number potential, I hope she manages to become as powerful as the top holos soon.

>>25114858
>move to other vtubers
On today's stream no other niji got funneled and King's ccv didn't drastically change before and after her stream.
Which pretty much show Salome is like gura, is a league on her own...for now.
Like, it would really be nuts if a random vtuber out of nowhere became the top JP streamer in general.
Like, not even Jun can pull those numbers on his regular streams, not even on weekends.

>>25115013
Expected higher from Miko and Ayame.

>>25115013
Pink dog supremacy.

>>25115088
Lighting in a bottle? Nah more like a supernova in a bottle, Salome came out of nowhere and made a statement with numbers alone.

Just to clear the "Salome's chat was going at 1/3 Migo's speed" earlier. Now that both streams are archived on Hololyzer, >we can see that their stats are pretty similar (with Salome being ahead)
Miko
>Amount of messages: 17,861
>Amount of JP messages: 8,111
>Amount of "English" messages: 1,019
>Amount of unique users sent messages: 6,672
Salome
>Amount of messages: 22,527
>Amount of JP messages: 21,743
>Amount of "English" messages: 559
>Amount of unique users sent messages: 7,543
With that said, no, Salome's chat speed wasn't slower than Miko's. The opposite, in fact

>>25115013
It IS her 'anniversary' though.

>>25115061
Yeah, I'm actually glad she doesn't stream for too long, I'd go insane if she kept that energy for 5 hours or so. I feel like she'll be more interesting in story-rich games or zatsudans, though I don't really mind the keyfabe.

>>25115178
it's almost too good to be true...

>>25115100
Hmmm, Ayame's number there is 100% wrong. Holoyzer has her at over 1 million yen while it has Miko at 900k yes. Yet playboard has Miko making more.

>>25115218
Is that total messages? Because Salami's stream was 50% longer

>>25115265
it might have also caught the part of the mem only stream that was public for a bit

>>25115218
Thanks for the info anon

>>25115061
That is why I respect Miko so much. Miko manages to pull off the living anime character act while balancing the high energy shit she does with the more chill stuff. She has also managed to work in plenty of real life stuff while talking to us so we know her better while not really breaking the anime character act. She is an absolute pro.

If Salome wants to learn how to evolve into a better vtuber her inspiration should unironically be Miko. Sometimes I don't think we appreciate just how good Miko is.

>>25115265
Playboard always has issues with comeback streams, it stops doing livecounts for channels that haven't been updated in a couple of weeks so it only gets what it scrapes from the chat replay, missing out on anything that was thrown in the waiting room

>>25115218
Holy shit is this thread retarded
We just went over this before. Hololyzer's chat tracking has been bugged for MONTHS. It DOESN'T WORK.
They show Suisei receiving almost 2x as much chat interaction for a normal tetris stream than her birthday (80k+) and her 3D live (147k)

It hasn't been scraping chats properly in 3 months now

>>25115400
speak for yourself

>>25115218
what's the next cope holobro?
is this situation equivalent of aqua mogging back in the day while niji livers took a break?

>>25115061
That's going to be a challenge she has to deal with. A 1~ hour snap-shot of the sameish content every time has two kinds of problems. Fans that are dedicated to the format might not be getting enough out of it and will look elsewhere to fill hours and may not come back. For those that don't like it they'll just leave naturally or she'll have to change what she's doing which can cause other people to leave anyway.
>>>25115088
Yeah it doesn't look like they're much more than tourists only interested in her and "sleeping subs" - people that might be in the fanbase but have largely been inactive until this caught their attention, but may leave just as suddenly once they had their fill. If she moves into streaming more irregularly like have some suggested she could choke out her own growth or it might have some level of Ayame benefit for her. We'll see what happens to her over the next month or two.

>>25114987
we won the month already, stop yapping for a change

>>25115261
Has any other jp, non vtuber, streamer talked about her tho?
I know there was that small vtuber who also does an ojou-sama character too way before Salome but has anyone else talked about her? I mean, today's stream i think surpassed KorKore's lastest one which says a lot since that drama channel is tourist central.

>>25115178
>Name her with a meme name to make potential viewers curious
>Do solo debut rather than group debut
>Actually create a character that fit her rather than just give her some character randomly
Anycolor knows what they do. I think it's a gamble for IPO and they win the gamble. I'm not surprised that she is actually scheduled to debut later with other newgens but they move it forward because she has talent

Now I wasn't expecting Migo numbers, but I'll be disappointed if Gura's WWE stream can't beat a room review that wasn't even on her channel

>>25114987
28k is still slippable anon. a karaoke or handcam from one the faggots can beat it

>>25115592
She hasn't even started playing the game, nignog

>>25114475
At this point vtuber market is dead, vtuber agency is lost to Corpo backed by investors.
It's like T-series vs Pewdiepie again.

>>25115617
you're like 3 years too late for that one bud

>>25115571
I don't see someone that has existed a week figuring too heavily into the IPO of a company with over 200+ streamers.

>>25115592
She just did

>>25114987
>EN gold secured

>>25115592
Why the fuck would you make a grudge post just as she's at 28800? Fucktard

salome thread? salome thread!

>>25115617

>>25115692
Vox is doing ASMR and the max that gets is like 15k
Mysta is MIA until the 30th

There's literally no one to contest this.

>>25115688
Good
>>25115708
Didn't say she wouldn't, just showing what my standards were

>>25115743
ENTER
UKI KARAOKE
NOW MYSTERIOUSLY AT 30K

>Salome is so irrelevant outside JP that only /#/ cares about her

>>25115712
mostly of nijiSEAniggers are sleeping wait until tomorrow morning for the full force

>>25115571
her timeslot helps i think, like just using chinman timeslot

>>25115708
I mean... read the thread, anon. Things were briefly quiet, but the shitposters and larpers are back.

>>25115779
this thread might as well be the only place that talks about nijijp aside from that dead general in /jp/ or that split that dies all the time that's about like 100 streamers in one

>>25115061
>dumb kayfabe
Go back watching twitch streamers then.
I think that you forgot the appeal of vtubers in the first place, it was interactive anime girls, not basic egirls with anime avatars.

>>25115464
How do you know it doesn't work? Have you tried to run your own script with YT API and received different results?
Not saying that it's definitely working properly, but "this is weird so there MUST be something wrong" argument is dumb. It's not like Hololyzer has to do anything special to get those messages - Youtube API provides all they need.

>>25115779
/#/ is the only place that matters

>>25115779

>>25115794
New copium from Holocope, as expected from Coper

>>25115692
KEK, nice to see we are not the only ones noticing this. It is even happening with JP.

Axia's costume reveal the other day peaked at 100ish viewers above Miko and then crashed by thousands of viewers immediately. Just today Salome's stream peaked above Miko and then, just like with Axia, immediately crashed by thousands of viewers.

S
U
S

>>25115779
She has a general that's faster than the Niji JP thread

Salome's numbers literally mindbreak holobronies' mind, the amount of bot and viewfarm cope in recent threads is hilariously baffling
Prepare for the shift in power, tribalfags

>>25115683
Which is why this whole Salome's thing is a case on her own.
But on the other hand, we had retards investing all in NFT and Crypto and now they are offing themselves.
Would not be surprised if Rikku is using Salome as a bait to catch some crypto-retards level of IQ investors.

>>25115906
ah yes, a general, just like those michael cat generals that are totally about actually being fans of her

>>25115906
Outside of King NijiJP has been a bunch of rare streamers and irrelevant.

>>25115893
>costume reveal
>crashed by thousands of viewers immediately
where the fuck do all you giganewfags come from holy shit

>>25115859
>interactive anime girls
This is wrong and you know it. It is interactive anime girls to a degree. The reason Hololive became so popular is that they were interactive anime girls who maintained a level of kayfabe while also seeming real in how they interact with us. I even fucking said she was good you faggot, I'm not an anti.

The full on kayfabe act is novel right now but people will get tired of it quick unless she becomes more relatable.

>>25115984
chinman...

So anon's how is boston? Success or flop?

>>25115989
Miko's costume reveal JUST FREAKING YESTERDAY gained viewers after the reveal, lol. You are wrong.

>>25116013
you mean like the city in general?

>>25116013
Big Success.

>>25116013
Flop. Attendees are not even clipniggers

Kobo Karaoke?

>>25116061
the expo obviously. I heard the quiz was a fiasco, but were there at least alot of holo fans there and merch being pushed?

https://twitter.com/rpr/status/1530180686891601920
Possible challenger to EN Gold (has to delay 2 hours, though, so it might affect his number)

>>25116100
>rpr
The Apex Towa guy?

>>25116100
isn't rpr a twitch streamer?

>>25116100
Its not gonna be on youtube dum dum. And its RPR, he might be a recognizable name but he's still some shitter

>>25116152
you mean the pekora cosplayer

>>25116100
does he even stream on youtube?

>>25116100
Twitch

>>25115859
This, amouranth viewers OUT.

>>25116100
It's on twitch you ape>>25116100

30k
still in character creation

Since Salome reached 500k in less than a week after her debut, will she be able to retain this incline to 1 million subs? It will be funny if she reaches 1m in only a month considering the pun in her name.

>>25116189
Wtf they're the same person?

HOW CAN HOLO COMPETE? HOLY SHIT

>>25116100
Rpr is turning into a vtuber? Towa influence really attract him and the fact he wants to participate on the vtube apex tourneys

>30k
so gura got higher than miko's first peak

>>25116256
holy shit what the fuck

>>25115965
they were literally discussing her stream yesterday and they still do till now, its only fags from here that shit up that thread

>>25115984
Only 4 fucking en streams are in the top 50 ccv yesterday and 18 were came from NijiJP. What the fuck are you talking about

>>25116257
Yeah but not fair to compare, after all Miko was just beginning to show of the game potential. Gura is coming in after people know its good. Kinda like being the first to stream Vampire Survivors or a horror game

>>25116256
By going public ;P

>>25116256
by ignoring her number

>>25114689
she didnt bring any new viewers to nijibox so not really.

>>25116256
>Biohazard
Literally biohazard for Hololive kek

>>25116388
There were literally only 4 EN streams yesterday

>>25116242
at this point its anyone's guess. I'm curious to see if anything will change after the first week's schedule.

>>25116409
Holy cope

>>25116401
yeah but miko was also going off of holofights

>>25116256
imma save this pic to mock newest holo debut in the future

>>25114689
>Niji on top
Insofar as she is part of Niji, sure. All the data points she hasn't brought a single new viewer into watching any other niji members.

>>25116224
shit number
she sucks at making the character
just wake Miko up now and ask her to help

>>25116100
>Twitch
>Convert
No.

>Left /#/ for the week
>missed one of the biggest arc this year

DEATH
TO
DESUWA

>>25116256
>1:29:46
I thought # bros said that she is contractual to stream for only 1 hour, and will GTFO after a week. Then, it is Holo dominance.
Did # bros lie to me again???????

>>25116409
where do you think you are flip-chama? you reap what you sow

>>25116514
>Expecting JPs to help
Everyone hates her after the constant ghosting even if they don't say it. She treats her genmates badly too. Even today she basically half assed a feedback for Kiara's new song when asked

>>25116256
Wonder how she feels knowing she got those numbers, is she happy? Nervous? Sad? Wonder if the NijiJP girls are happy for her or jealous that she's making numbers they can only dream of making. (On a debut stream no less)

slow thread is slow

>>25116256
It reminds me how do Luxiem fans respond to this? I remember their fans were mocking their JP branch for having shit numbers.

>>25116488
wait till the 900k one become 1M for extra spice

i swear there's like 3 fags that coordinate to just samefag each other at the same time

>>25115936
shalom

>>25116242
She's nearly a quarter of the way to 600k already, if she is slowing down it's barely noticeable

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>11,752: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,513: Ike (Nijisanji)
>11,282: Amelia (Hololive)
>10,419: Shu (Nijisanji)
>6,578: Reimu (Nijisanji)
>6,533: Mori (Hololive)
>5,151: Uki (Nijisanji)

The punchline? Bae/IRyS played the exact same game as Ike/Vox and Ike/Vox were even in chink hours. Yet Bae/IRyS won.

>>25116242
What is the record for the fastest 1 million subs again? It belongs to Gura, right?

>>25116701
35 days, yes gura

>>25116701
took gura 40 days to reach a mil iirc however salome being the outlier might beat that

>>25116647
Interestingly enough I also suspect that people who get interested in looking at different vtubers will most likely end up watching Holos considering the state of females at Niji.

>>25116701
Yes, nobody is even close, right now. All the HoloX members slowed down like crazy once they hit the 600-700k mark

Why do people think the circumstances surrounding Salome are due to the IPO? I mean, isn't it weird to debut a single new talent to boost your image for IPO's sake? And based from what the other anons from the last thread have said, Nijisanji is already popular and normally talked about in Japan. Not sure why an image boost is necessary.

Easy 30k+ although the stream seems to confirm that Gura is worse at character creation than Miko even with language barrier so I'm unsure about if the next EN WWE streams perform well.

She screwed up the eyes and made the character like a creepy doll. Miko went with the right idea at not messing up the eyes and making them wrestlers cosplaying as Holos.

>>25116760
Salome is going to filter more normies into Hololive once they realize all the rest of Niji are basically just twitch thots who don't play a character

>>25116779
holo board, holo cope
newfagkun

>>25116779
it's just their coping mechanism

>>25115936
holofags were always the biggest shitposters, the amount of trolling and falseflagging those indos do is unbareable. they're finally getting kicked in the teeth and they can do nothing but cope and seethe.

>>25116701
Is she even gonna make it that fast with no global audience? She's bound to hit an upper limit.

>>25116256
Damn she got the subs real fast. How's other niji females that's been in the company for so long doing?

>>25116804
>next EN WWE streams
This is way too much effort for her. This will be the only WWE stream she'll do.

MIKO MOGGED
>MIKO MOGGED
MIKO MOGGED
>MIKO MOGGED
MIKO MOGGED
>MIKO MOGGED
MIKO MOGGED
>MIKO MOGGED
MIKO MOGGED
>MIKO MOGGED
MIKO MOGGED
>MIKO MOGGED

why does gura not have mikos numbers

>>25116779
They are coping because Holo is losing its dominant stance in the vtuber industry.

>>25116779
>isn't it weird to debut a single new talent to boost your image for IPO's sake?
No? It's far from being the weirdest of the shenanigans played by companies looking to boost their visibility before going public. You should look up Nikola and its history

>>25116752
>>25116755
Gura was pretty fast, but also debuted into a much different environment considering the state of vtubers at the time. What was really impressive was her legs/benefit of an EN market. Even if Salome made 1mil faster I can't see her matching the other milestones - if she could reach them at all.

>>25116541
It's been threads on threads of shitposting anon, you didn't miss much. All of it can be summarized as "Niji solo debuted a new talent and she's on fire right now (in a good way). Unprecedented numbers".

>>25116256
shes mogging no.1 jp streamer jun too

what the fuck is that audience

>>25116804
There's no question that she is, because she is lazy, or Miko is autistic about it, your choice. She's also fighting normal wrestlers, she's just doing her own thing, I don't expect this to be power content for her.

Ah shit she didn't turn off entrances, she's gonna get this dmca'd isn't she.

>>25116886
Because she has higher

>>25116779
It's just holocope.

>>25116886
but shes beat miko's first wwe stream?

>>25116779
>Nijisanji is already popular and normally talked about in Japan
How do you PROVE this to the stakeholder without real NUMBERS?

>>25116779
holofags can't accept that they're whores can only do the cutesy teetee act and aren't actually charismatic. they don't have the gaming skills of vspo nor do they have the sing talent of top tier nijis. they're in perpetual cope from being failed normalfags and being on the losing side.

>>25116477
How many people watch holofights?

>>25116905
the goalpost.. its moving

>>25116931
ah nevermind, looks like that was music she was playing.

I can't believe /#/ is actually having a crisis even though Gura is climbing up to 33k right now playing a fucking game

What is wrong with people here jesus christ

>Luxiem came
>broke SC records
>/#/ no longer numberfag SC
>The Whore of Babylon mogged the shit out of holo ccv
>....
Would we still numberfag ccv bros? How can holofag ever recover from this?

>>25116931
She's on streamer mode, so no music issues.

so hows the shitposting been today

>>25116647
If we take Mito's personal experience as a reference, then Salome must be getting physically sick from the crushing pressure and is wishing for her fad to be over right now.

>>25116886
Miko is actually entertaining

>>25116966
Miko was pioneering at the time. Gura is riding the wave after Miko already made it popular.

>>25117038
Nobody cares about Gura, anon.

>>25116779
gigacope from the retarded tribalniggers who've been saying niji is dying for months

>>25117010
only a couple thousand but it had over a years worth of hype building up a wwe fight

>>25116886
gura is just dead sub central

>>25116911
Jun gang status? Holy shit.

>>25116776
JP market size is a real problem. Fastest 1 mil is maybe doable, but I don't see any JP beating Gura's 2 mil.

>>25117038
33k ain't no 113k biohazard

>>25116886
I opened gura's stream, and she's just fucking boring

Meanwhile when I watch Miko I can't help but lose my sides everytime

>>25117038
>>25117044

seeing holobronies going through a midlife crisis is fucking hilarious.

almost like when coco made numberfagging entirely pointless with her record CCV number.

>>25117082
That's not how it works.

>>25117057
Still getting raided by the Flip discord. They know they've got to live it up before Niji goes back to getting daily shit stompings

>>25116996
they have internal numbers seadogchama. I know it's hard for you to conceptualize that, now go back to facebook.

try being less obvious

>>25116966
She's got momentum from Miko's streams. When NIKKI A.S.H. entered the ring, chat started spamming shuba.

>>25117079
Let us know when Niji stops stepping on its tail.

>samefagging

>>25117130
Same but with Salome. Holowhores are just so fucking boring.

>>25116256
It's embarrassing for vtubers as a whole.
She's getting more CCV and views than almost every Nijisanji stream in history, and is out-competing Hololive's current best.

>>25117164
So in other words dude trust me!
As if anyone believes this

>>25117199
still about 4k added

>>25117152
gonna cry?

>>25116779
>if I reply to this post 30 times saying holocope I win

>>25114251
She always switches to normie hours whenever she gets involved with events that require her to do normie hours. She's been working on:
- Project V tv show thing
- Ui On Stage live event
- V-cani reharsal maybe
- Birthday recording maybe

She's going back to usual hours after these days

>>25116779
Niji has been ceding ground to holo for a while now.
They used to have a bunch of boasts on their site about how they have the most popular vtubers but they've had to take those down.
A big viral debut right before IPO would help show potential investors that their brand still has power and can draw the public eye.

>>25116997
Thanks for the input random Nijisanji fan, anyway Holo still doing good regardless of the desuwa girl so not sure where you're getting that high and mighty energy from. Give it two weeks before she starts lowering her numbers, because at the end of the day a streamer is only as good as it's core audience that stays with them(with Vox only having 2-3k concurrent viewers recently)

>>25117044
true kek, watching that manwhore vox beat their whores every month with his SC just for the numberniggers to do "muh merch" cope is so funny especially as if his chink fujos weren't paying out the ass for his merch.

>>25117079
Nijiniggers prove themselves to be subhumans again

>>25117164
>they have internal numbers
How do you prove you're the most popular with internal numbers you fucking retard? You need to compare to the internal numbers of your competitors to make any claims about whether or not you're more popular than them

>>25117308
unless you think she's gonna get 80k+ viewers on this (lol) its kinda irrelevant.

>>25116256
Holy shit it's amazing how she's beating everyone before her, kek.
She'll have 1m subs faster than anyone else in history.

Anyone knows why this is the case? I don't know if this board has any hardcore nijifans since the early days but how are they taking this?

>>25116966
that stream has some of the worst overlaps
also zero hype as that come out of nowhere

>>25117357
>lackluster
just like your 3D outfit last night Miko san!

>>25117308
yeah, it's still impressive

>Gura losing
>Views just tank
Kek

>>25117373
most people say it's like when mito first debuted in 2018.

that energy is back in 2022 in the forefront, same gamechanging rise

>>25116905
>different environment
So does Salome. Japs dont easily give out subs, and you should know that it is a cultural thing by now.
>other milestones
I presume you were talking about Gura reaching 2m and 3m subs since we are strictly discussing about numbers right now. Then all of that subscriber count doesn't matter because they are dead subs who don't even tune in on her streams at all.

>Migo got 111k ccv
>suddenly Salome got 113k on her 2nd RE playthrough
I aint saying it's fake BUT, something smells fishy here

>>25117334
look at the absolute cope, you were getting mogged in SC by that whore vox and now you're getting mogged in views by desuwa, if you don't care about numbers than go to you're puny little hugbox general.

>>25117079
Niji is objectively dying. Watching the cope when this flash in a pan ends and Niji is back to sub 10k streams every day is going to be interesting.

>>25117231
It's going to keep going for a long time.

>>25117373
holo got no oujo sama, wait they do but she rarely stream lmao

>>25117448
I don't get it lmao, were those tourists expecting Gura to dominate the gameplay?

>>25117408
The outfit is pure sex. What are you talking about?

>>25117483
>yessu indian bottu farmu san?
>putto justo enafu biyuas to bittu za migo

>>25117038
they are braindead shitposters you should ignore them
>>25112746

>>25117541
Odds we're getting a holo summer arc?

>>25117541

>>25117515
I don't blame them, I would take 3 month breaks aswell if 60% of my chat was filled with retards.

>>25117483
with all the bait, it's impossible to make Assumptions

>>25117075
Miko made it popular in JP.
The audience grew each time because Miko was building on each stream.
You'd have to be a moron to think that an EN would gain that much from their own unrelated gameplay.
There's also the well documented CCV issue so Gura already has much higher than Miko's first stream.

>>25117044
Serious question, is this unironically a turning point for niji? Ngl I kinda feel the similar vibe with holo back in 2020 lately

>>25117606
hopefully, that's what twitch is for

>>25117483
What? You're saying that it's kind of weird that a brand new vtuber is getting more viewers every single stream playing the same game which has never happened before, getting 15k viewers joining the stream within a span of a second, having a slower chat than Flare and just in time for Any Color to use her to pump their IPO

That must be holocope! Ignore it!

>>25117334
RORU RORU RUMAO
THE ABSOLUTE HOLOCOPE
SEETHE MORE FAGGOT

>>25117620

>>25117478
I was going to give you a serious response until the second part. Instead you get a (You) and fuck off.

>>25117324
thanks a lot anon

>>25117660
No way anon! You're just coping!! H-HOLOCOPE!

>>25117664

>>25117660
It's h-holocope...please just ignore it. Please we need a fucking win WE NEED THIS

nijifans have been coping for days
now it's time for holofans to cope

COOOOOPE

>>25117373
Holy shit it's amazing how you are replying to your own post for million times, kek.
You'll have 1m (you) faster than any anon in the history of 4chan.

Does anyone know why this is the case? I don't know if this board had any hardcore Nijishill since the early days but how are they taking this?

>>25117644
of course it is, turning points don't happen in the span of the day they take months. holo is losing in the SC department and soon they'll be losing in the views department. just wait for them to bring up the subscribers cope when it happens and eventually they'll lose that too.

>>25117038
>33k
>Good
This is the most buffed game in Holo history. She should show she actually has real viewers with her 4m subs. But as we can see not even 1% showed up for stream

If I was Enikara staff and Riku told me to bot the newest member to make her seem really popular I'd go for 100k+ on her debut then like 80k on the first gaming stream slowly decreasing each time, not fucking 113k on Biohazard stream #3
It might sound weird but because the numbers are so unbelievable it actually makes it believable

>>25117660
anon, at least on the chat speed front, there are actual numbers on that from Hololyzer.

>>25117660
>>25117703
>>25117743

did salome mind break you anon?

>Gura spends literally 95 mins doing just her character
>Can't play vs males because she didn't even check how it works
>Plays against a random female
>Gets mogged
>Rematch
>Mogged again
>Starts playing the tutorial
i think she's legit retarded

>>25117660
this is a holocope for sure

What the fuck is Gura doing? Just have the CPU fight each other.

>>25117660
holocope. go back to sleep. nothing sttrange here stop noticing things

>>25117805
Completely and utterly

>>25117809
ain't it great

>>25117809
how new?

>>25117519
>to dominate the gameplay
>Flashback to the Monopoly collab on Kiara's channel and literally most of the chat, not members of course, were rooting for Gura more than the others
They took the Apex predator meme too seriously...

>>25117660
>>25117664
>>25117703
>>25117743
>>25117791
kek, actually mind broken.

>>25117809
Why didn't she learn how to play the game off stream? This is Mori level retardation and why EN has been reclining. Do your fucking prep work you dumb bitches.

Out of all the English language streams going on right now, Gura is 3rd behind XQC and Mizkif. JP numbers are killing your brains.

>>25117809
Yes.
And this is why she'll keep getting shit numbers for normal things, because she's retarded and doesn't do any prep work for these things.
Like, I would've expected her to at least have done the tutorial to actually know how to play the game off-stream.

>>25117768
If holo really got overtaken by niji this year, i'll put all the blame on those lazy EN whores who do next to nothing to maintain their positions as the top chuuba!

>>25117894
But she won monopoly..

Is the vtubing industry thrving yet again?
The recent newborns like Vox, Kobo and Salome are such anomalies that they are captivating and bringing in a whole new audience demographic

>>25117809
>i think she's legit retarded
how new?

>>25117644
I think Gura's debut already represented a similar event and it wasn't a turning point in any way for Hololive.
There's only a single new EN gen after Gura and both EN gens barely stream; moreover, a random HoloID is growing faster than every Holo and Niji EN.

I can't help but wonder if her acting so strongly in-character might even backfire when all these non-Niji fans try looking for similar vtubers. Most livers don't act like stereotype characters at all (though some do great at it, so maybe they'll get a massive fallout buff from desuwa).
Maybe it'll end up helping Niji as a whole though. I actually expected a future runaway vtuber to appear in the Apex vtuber crowd, rather than a character archetype one.

>HAHA HOLO COPE
>COPE RORU COPE COPE HOWOCOPE
>SEETHE COPE RORU RUMAO COPE

>>25117919
She can't even write proper stream description lol. Literally copy pasting Miko's permission

>>25117920
>separating JP Vtuber from a JP Corpo EN Vtuber
They're both under a JP corpo faggot. They both have JP viewers. You're just coping because Holowhores are irrelevant and boring as shit

>>25117953
I exclusively blame Gura for not putting her boot on Nijis throat when she had the chance and ending them for good.

*Helicopter

>>25117919
Or don't even learn how to play the game. Just do CPU vs. CPU. That is what all the popular WWE streams do.

2021
>median holo
>daily gold holo
>total views holo
>total watchtime & avg holo
>total SC holo

2022
>median salome/niji
>daily gold salome/niji
>total views holo
>total watchtime & avg holo
>total SC niji/nijicn

its over holobros...

>>25117972
>I can't help but wonder if her acting so strongly in-character might even backfire
It's kinda interesting to see her progress from now on. Especially how her strong keyfabe would fare in collabs with other niji

>>25118040
mate gura is never going to give half a shit about numbers

>>25117967
The only anomaly here is Salome.

Samefag less blatantly next time onegai

>>25117920
anon... that's numberrot

this thread
>samefag samefag samefag samefag samefag bait samefag bait bitesbait normalcomment samefag samefag bait

>>25117644
Could be? It depends on how they utilize the virality of Salome

>>25117660
anon, i'm a holofan but just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it isn't the case. Its not the end of the world even if Hololive becomes 2nd biggest again. Hololive is still very strong, and as its still thriving, there are any number of chances to even the field again in the future, or have the field evened on its own, no number of baits can change that.

>>25118124
burger hours are the worst

>>25118102
Idk what she think! Cover should've put myth on a training camp and educate them on the importance and responsibility of fame and numbers!

h-holocope. stop pointing out how blatantly salome bots you fucking niggers, we live in SEA, do you realize how much we need this W? Let us have it

>>25117477
>most people
yourself

>holox debut
>/#/ inclining
>ccvid
>/#/ reclining
>salomebox
>/#/ inclining

>>25118175
THE HOLOCOPE IS OUTSTANDING
>2ND PLACE IS OKAY
2ND PLACE IS 1ST PLACE LOSER
RORU RORU RUMAO

>bled 6k viewers instead of going right into kronii
fuck's sake goomba

>>25117660
>>25117664
>>25117703
>>25117743
>>25117791
>>25118214

take your meds gramps, you're seeing bots again!

gura would probably be happier pulling rosemi numbers

>>25117913
>>25118214

>>25117967
I still don't get where the "new demographic are watching Salome" narrative comes from. She IS a good streamer, but one would think her gimmick would appeal primarily to a niche group (i.e the oujou enjoyer). I would say that her viewership comes from Niji's base itself.

gura absolutely sucks at this but i dont think theres any EN who would be good

>>25118254
Direct your complaints to somebody who cares.

>>25118176
Where the fuck were you last night when we had a thread hit 1500 off of even worse garbage?

>>25118296
She should fucking leave if she can't be professional about her job

>>25118296
No because then she'd have to work for a living

>>25118254
Oh nyo. Nobody cares.

>>25117809
fully expected, she isn't miko. This is where the whole 'only miko can do this comes in', because she is the perfect blend of entertainer and creative autism. Gura is just too lazy, and can't fill the empty space like Miko can.

fauna?

What a garbage thread. Retards woke up again.

look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power

>>25118179
nta, of course that they should give her freedom to do what she wants as long as she doesn't cause any yab and /we/ are the only people who care that much about numbers, but using for almost two years the "she doesn't care about numbers" as an excuse for not preparing streams should stop at some point

Fauna in Goomba VC!!

>>25118336
i'm usually at morning anonchama

>Fauna joined
>Not Kronii

Well

>>25118104
As far as ID is concerned Kobo is very much an anomaly.

>>25118159
>how they utilize the virality of Salome
Now this is the interesting part. Salome seems to be really well prepared for her every stream (as if she has a whole team to write her whole stream and make those kino preview). Im really curious to see how niji would capitalize her style and virality to increase their overall popularity and profits

tsk tsk
Nijisanjifags never forgave Cover for turning its back on the CCP.

>>25118175
Thank you Anon, you're probably right.
If we look at it from the bright side Niji doing this will likely push the Hologirls to pick up the phase, being number 1 for too long made them lax and they need a reminder that there is still competition out there, so this turns out for the better funny enough, Ayame randomly streaming today/yesterday is proof of that and Aqua is streaming today too!

>>25118441
MIKO IS THE BEST

gura should take the anya outlook on numbers

>>25118466

OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST
>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!
>salome's popularity is due to bots!
>her reveal is just an IPO scam!
>her chat is too slow!
>her vod views are inconsistant!
>shes not that entertaining!

anything im missing?

Yet another lazy stream where EN just spams open VC

>>25118525
99% of the Nijifags here are just the chink fujos who dislike GFE and Hololive. Notice the complete lack of Luxiem posting now they have something else to troll with?

>>25118521
Apparently she's tourist central because the other members didn't get any funnel from her, but there is also a chance that people don't like her collabing with other people. Idk, it's the first time we have something like this and it's impossible to know what's going to happen

>>25118593
>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company

>>25118567
They are working at this hour.

>>25118593
>Nijiniggers get a shitty RE7 stream
>HoloCHADS get Miko performing an amazing concert with her much improved idol reps and an amazing new outfit that is pure sex
Yeah, I think HoloCHADS won this round. Cry more about it Nijikek.

>>25118521
>Salome seems to be really well prepared for her every stream (as if she has a whole team to write her whole stream and make those kino preview).
It reminds me of Ai Kizuna style vtuber but it's a live
Masaka!

I wish SEA would go to sleep forever

>samefagging
>Doesn't even know what a cope list is
unironically kys

dbs was a calamity for this site

>>25118593
Right on brother, we need to stop these fags noticing things. It's all COPE. Holocope! We won for once. Selamat malam

>>25118593
>say cope
>post true statements
you guys are worse than shareblue

schizo quality declining

>>25118593
you have no idea what a cope is jesus christ, half of those things are speculations or observations

Somebody tell Gura that she need to do CPU vs. CPU. That is what all the popular WWE stream do. Why was she actually playing?

>>25118683
>implying they have jobs

>spamming Miko images
Aah the usual holocope mechanism.

>>25118683
>They are working at this hour
>4chan users
>They are working
>on SUNDAY
look at this absolute fucking clown

OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST
>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!
>salome's popularity is due to bots!
>her reveal is just an IPO scam!
>her chat is too slow!
>her vod views are inconsistant!
>shes not that entertaining!
>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company
>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!

keep them coming holobronies

management called in a council to save this stream because gura is drowning

>>25118472
Yeah im really tired of their indifference. I tolerated it in the past because i was hoping a time where they pulled all stop and became more passionate and active on reaching an higher height. Ofc there was multiple occasions when they do kino stuff but im tired of their on-off mode. One day they went all passionate and la cretividad followed by weeks to months of unmotivate streams or straigjt up taking long breaks every month or two

>>25118593
Copying hololive memes again, I see.
It's useless if you don't have the links bro. Try again

>>25118779
kek

>>25117541
yes but look where you at anon, we are on /#/
113k beats 111k

>>25118593

>>25118844
>2nd biggest company
Are you retarded?

>JP
Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining
>EN
Holo easily wins this too. NijiEN had a giga buffed month with a 2 week off collab, karaoke streams, and celebrations. Yet Holo still have 7 out of the top 10 spots for actual viewership
>ID
Not even a competition. Easy Holo win

Tell me again where Niji wins? Maybe China, lmao.

>>25118953
kek

>>25118824
Monkeys work 24/7 purisu andastando anon

>>25118953
Fucking kek, I get the reference

>>25118628
I remember when open VC shit was only used in Minecraft streams, why the fuck do they use this in every fucking games

>>25118312
Wasn't this narrative fortified because Salome's viewers didn't funnel into the other livers at all? Even if we are being generous, there was like 4-5k incline in total funneling to 10+ streamers, which is a miniscule amount. About 100,000 people literally disappeared after her stream ended.

>>25118955
>t-they buffed ,doesn't count
>i-its just one girl mogging, doesn't count

>>25118955
Stop samefagging you dog water

>>25118684
as far as I'm concerned, every day Miko streams is a day I'm winning

>>25119024
they don't

>>25118779
>>25118824
Anon philippine isn't 1st world, they don't have NEETbux, they can't sit all day and shitpost on this site, they have to earn money to survive.
>sunday
Mr Lim doesn't care if its Sunday or not

Looks like I struck a nerve, salome is the gift that keeps on giving

OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST
>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!
>salome's popularity is due to bots!
>her reveal is just an IPO scam!
>her chat is too slow!
>her vod views are inconsistant!
>shes not that entertaining!
>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company
>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!
>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining

>>25119024
they hardly ever use it, and sometimes when they do nobody even joins

>>25119047
can you even read?

>green whore leeching off Gura for the millionth time
Yawn

>>25119024
They don't and the fans like it so why wouldn't they do it? You realize Miko had 8 people in VC on her last WWE stream right?

>>25119078
>I'll just keep reposting it
>I totally won guys

>>25118953
MIKOTI WON, BY A LOT!

>>25119078

what ever happened to the jew tubers

>>25119058
This

If we are being honest Miko wins actual gold everyday because she warms my heart and makes me feel alive.

>>25119132
That is a proper planned collab. Not randomly having people join VC in solo streams

>>25118953
fuck, I chuckled

This scares Holokek.

>>25119143
Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started. I'm winning along with her to be along for the ride.

so.. which one is the winner?

>>25119078
How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.

>>25116256
How did she do it? Am I missing something?

>>25119229
it's a tokyo revengers reference

>>25119128
I think you mean
>The 100th time Gura being lazy about making her own content and has to leech other people

100% struck a nerve since you keep replying, you should ignore me but you keep giving me material

OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST
>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!
>salome's popularity is due to bots!
>her reveal is just an IPO scam!
>her chat is too slow!
>her vod views are inconsistant!
>shes not that entertaining!
>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company
>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!
>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining
>Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started.
>How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.

>>25119255
at this point salome is gonna win

>>25119255
Both of them are 1-1. We need a tie breaker.

jesas christ, Gura's whole 'copypaste' thing REALY looks ugly and filtering.
The worst part of it is that it will probably prevent Miko from making actually good versions of EN....

>>25119255
Ojou-sama is too strong desuwa
Shrine maiden BTFO

>>25119295
by being cute retarded oujo sama desuwa

>people giving attention to an obvious samefag baiter
You are literally retarded

Koyori 10k

>>25119255
Tonight is Salome's night. Miko is most likely going to take it easy. Salome is going to stream on the buffest day of the week. I expect her to beat Kuzuha's gaming record.

https://youtu.be/iAXP5i-StVI


This got into my recommended feed. It actually has more views than ame's vod. Now here's the question, is clips actually hurting holoen?

>>25119255
In my heart? Miko, in numbers? Salmon girl. At the end of the day we all know how each member is and how they got here today.

>>25119400
So by botting?
Because I watched her and she's just like any other vwhore

>4th time he reposts it

>>25119368
Nobody cares that much. The cursed models are funny. The only thing that I hope happens is that Gura continues making EN and then at the end there is a big Gura/Miko collab with a big Royal Rumble.

>coco killed peak ccv numberfagging
>luxiem killed SC numberfagging
>salome killed daily gold numberfagging
whos going to kill vod numberfagging?

>>25119368
>it will probably prevent Miko from making actually good versions of EN
good

How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.
>S-Salome is just like any other whore

>>25119327
Please add "Salome is honorary Holo"
Shit is hilarious

>>25119363
LMAO, Salome got gold 3 days in a row. The winner is already clear

>>25119520
Then explain

>>25119469
ty for the seeth and cope