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>>25113382We have already seen their financials, right?
>>25113588It was bad but at least people put a token effort to pretend like it wasn't, the leak just took the leashes off
>>25113525yeah, I was indifferent to niji since I have too much on my plate as is, otherwise i probably would watch them since i watched ars for a bit.But, since the talent seem to be the same as the niji schizos here,i'm not interested in watching
>>25113637Non public companies don't share financials, ever.
/#/ is declining.
>>25113726
>>25113589do you think nishizawa looks at herself when she's drawing that?
>>25113637Just a yearly report, not anywhere near the level of publicly traded company.
>>25112986update. although miko's was heading to a peak at 55 mins in. not sure if someone ended around then.
>>25113968Westerners have a lower attention span, the numbers will jump when the fights start
>>25113968There's really no need to compare. Gura is buffed by what Miko's later entries ended up pulling, but also there was no way for her to ever just jump right into Miki+9 holos in VC numbers, even if this timeslot had the holo viewerbase to allow it
Yagoo is pulling out the big guns, the Nijikiller goes straight for Desuwa's timeslothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b59kreP24ac
the thread is pretty slow for a gura stream. did the shitposters get banned or something?
>>25114145Pfft. 50k tops while Salome pulls the usual 100k.
>>25114096to be fair, most jops won't know about this stream since she posted the frame/tweeted about it at around 5 am jst and started streaming at 9am jst.so anyone who went to sleep before her tweet wouldn't know they need to wake up
Need someone to correct if I'm wrong but this is an abnormal hour for Watame to stream isn't it? Is she taking over a vacant slot or is something else? Geting 10k in indie shit is also nice
>>25114146numbers are slow. people are either watching or doing other things
>>25114187I'd agree if Aqua started on primetime. I'm thinking around 20-35k.
met "z"s her way onto the tally...
>>25113679Yeah, people under estimate the discord leak just because the companies themselves didn't do anything. It was one of the landmark events in the history of this board and made any possible peace between the fans impossible. It was a big deal.
>>25114251she started extremely early for a sunday, but it's not unheard of, however it is kind of weird for her, but she also tried going super early yesterday and it worked out great for heralso, this stream is S+ tier comfy
>>25114146Gura is getting her regular numbers, nothing to talk about.
>>25114146this just proves nijifans are the majority of numberfags.
>>25114267So, besides the one Z I saw on a Mori stream and one on Watame, has any other Holomem gotten Z'd?
>>25114267Why there is many z. Is putin try to speak with us?
>>25114146the seafags are asleep
>>25114145No one can stop Salome right now. Not Aqua, not Miko, not Pekora, not Marine, no one. She is just having the kind of never-seen-before hype from VTubers. There hasn't been any VTuber ever managed to get so much attention from nips (both VTuber fans and normies). Salome is just kind of VTuber Jesus atm, that's about it. Hololive will have to wait until her hype start slowing down first before they can pose a real, consistent challenge - which doesn't seem to be the case anytime soon. Maybe a month or two down the road, but definitely not now.
>>25114267Beatiful symmetric N in middle
>>25114145no matters who they all will be mogged by desuwa-hime , Riku sama can't let them make him look bad before IPO is over wink wink
salome gaining traction in the korean market. it'll be hilarious that after nijiKR being a massive flop, salome would be the one that would pierce the korean markethttps://twitter.com/omamo_onininare/status/1530465748438888453https://twitter.com/vtcaru/status/1530431494870605830
>>25114475how fortuitousI shall now invest in Anycolor's IPO
>>25114475The Oyabun of Numbers
Thread is slow, which is good.Now i'll take my leave. Abayo motherfuckertachi
>>25114508>1k likes on bothGAINING TRACTION!reminds me of the other retards convinced Kobo is taking all the chink fujos
>>25114475Honestly, I'm glad Niji is back on top. Cover got lazy and now the company with the better talents is back on top.
>>25114535Nah.That's the peon's play.The REAL play is to start contacting some shady flip viewfarms and pay them off to say they viewfarmed Salome.Then, set up an 'investigative report' using these 'third party sources' into the shady business of viewfarms on livestreams. Then, release it juuuuusssst as the IPO is a go. Swoop in and buy as the FUD sets in and share prices tank, then make a killing when the price goes back up once the numbers show what the stock is really worth. Of course, none of this stuff is on your hands and is contracted out to assorted third parties via other third parties to appear 'fair and unbiased' in the reporting.
prepare for another 80k+ stream holobroni
In smol corpos news, Kawaii manage to get their KS funded.
>Most popular Niji is the one without any immediately obvious Nijisanji brandingReally makes you think. Any Color trying to escape their poor reputation?
>>25114715Nice for them
>>25114715that's some serious money people putting up. good for them
>>25114715>My dear Charzu in 3DAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>25114715Nice.
28k breachedLooks like it's picking up the pace now
>>25114689>better talents>They are dominated by some fag who plays Apex for 12 hours a dayYeah, better talents
>>25114475Strong solo debut and nothing else really going on have let her have a bit of a perfect storm. She's heavily outperforming, but considering how fast she packed on subs between debut and the current day you'd have expected a lot more turning into the stream. She's not bad, but it remains to be seen what sort of attention she can hold after the short term. There is a lot of churn happening there. I don't know how many of those suddenly interested normies will stick with her, move to other vtubers or just abandon the interest entirely.
>>25114831And who isn't even good at the game, you forgot about that.
>>25114689>Niji is back on topIt's literally one person less than a week into their debut. Stop shitposting.
>>25114337Some people dropped NijiEN because of it. In my case it added to a long list of disappointments and then finally the Pomu off pako threesome was the nail in the coffin.
>>25114827Nope.
>>25114752kuzuha doesn't put nijisanji on his shit too, and mito only remembers to add nijisanji on her titles once in a blue moon, it was never compulsory
>>25114347Yeah I noticed that morning streams for her are doing great. Which is a blessing for me since my schedule finally matches with my oshi.
EN gold securedJP gold on the other hand....are we losing holobros?
today's supas, jesas koyo
>25114987You should consider necking yourself rather than larping as a holofag or nijifag.
>>25114858I've been watching her from the beginning and I'm already kind of getting tired of it. Her stream is just pedal to the medal from the second it starts and it gets tiring. I actually bounced after about 40ish minutes during yesterdays stream. I want a more chill stream/zatsudan where she just talks with us. Of course that will probably be in her dumb kayfabe.Don't get me wrong, she is good, but the entire act is just sensory overload and gets a bit exhausting. I don't think I'll be a regular viewer anymore.
>>25115013Koyo has so much number potential, I hope she manages to become as powerful as the top holos soon.
>>25114858>move to other vtubersOn today's stream no other niji got funneled and King's ccv didn't drastically change before and after her stream.Which pretty much show Salome is like gura, is a league on her own...for now.Like, it would really be nuts if a random vtuber out of nowhere became the top JP streamer in general.Like, not even Jun can pull those numbers on his regular streams, not even on weekends.
>>25115013Expected higher from Miko and Ayame.
>>25115013Pink dog supremacy.
>>25115088Lighting in a bottle? Nah more like a supernova in a bottle, Salome came out of nowhere and made a statement with numbers alone.
Just to clear the "Salome's chat was going at 1/3 Migo's speed" earlier. Now that both streams are archived on Hololyzer, >we can see that their stats are pretty similar (with Salome being ahead)Miko>Amount of messages: 17,861>Amount of JP messages: 8,111>Amount of "English" messages: 1,019 >Amount of unique users sent messages: 6,672Salome>Amount of messages: 22,527>Amount of JP messages: 21,743>Amount of "English" messages: 559 >Amount of unique users sent messages: 7,543With that said, no, Salome's chat speed wasn't slower than Miko's. The opposite, in fact
>>25115013It IS her 'anniversary' though.
>>25115061Yeah, I'm actually glad she doesn't stream for too long, I'd go insane if she kept that energy for 5 hours or so. I feel like she'll be more interesting in story-rich games or zatsudans, though I don't really mind the keyfabe.
>>25115178it's almost too good to be true...
>>25115100Hmmm, Ayame's number there is 100% wrong. Holoyzer has her at over 1 million yen while it has Miko at 900k yes. Yet playboard has Miko making more.
>>25115218Is that total messages? Because Salami's stream was 50% longer
>>25115265it might have also caught the part of the mem only stream that was public for a bit
>>25115218Thanks for the info anon
>>25115061That is why I respect Miko so much. Miko manages to pull off the living anime character act while balancing the high energy shit she does with the more chill stuff. She has also managed to work in plenty of real life stuff while talking to us so we know her better while not really breaking the anime character act. She is an absolute pro.If Salome wants to learn how to evolve into a better vtuber her inspiration should unironically be Miko. Sometimes I don't think we appreciate just how good Miko is.
>>25115265Playboard always has issues with comeback streams, it stops doing livecounts for channels that haven't been updated in a couple of weeks so it only gets what it scrapes from the chat replay, missing out on anything that was thrown in the waiting room
>>25115218Holy shit is this thread retardedWe just went over this before. Hololyzer's chat tracking has been bugged for MONTHS. It DOESN'T WORK.They show Suisei receiving almost 2x as much chat interaction for a normal tetris stream than her birthday (80k+) and her 3D live (147k)It hasn't been scraping chats properly in 3 months now
>>25115400speak for yourself
>>25115218what's the next cope holobro?is this situation equivalent of aqua mogging back in the day while niji livers took a break?
>>25115061That's going to be a challenge she has to deal with. A 1~ hour snap-shot of the sameish content every time has two kinds of problems. Fans that are dedicated to the format might not be getting enough out of it and will look elsewhere to fill hours and may not come back. For those that don't like it they'll just leave naturally or she'll have to change what she's doing which can cause other people to leave anyway.>>>25115088Yeah it doesn't look like they're much more than tourists only interested in her and "sleeping subs" - people that might be in the fanbase but have largely been inactive until this caught their attention, but may leave just as suddenly once they had their fill. If she moves into streaming more irregularly like have some suggested she could choke out her own growth or it might have some level of Ayame benefit for her. We'll see what happens to her over the next month or two.
>>25114987we won the month already, stop yapping for a change
>>25115261Has any other jp, non vtuber, streamer talked about her tho?I know there was that small vtuber who also does an ojou-sama character too way before Salome but has anyone else talked about her? I mean, today's stream i think surpassed KorKore's lastest one which says a lot since that drama channel is tourist central.
>>25115178>Name her with a meme name to make potential viewers curious>Do solo debut rather than group debut>Actually create a character that fit her rather than just give her some character randomlyAnycolor knows what they do. I think it's a gamble for IPO and they win the gamble. I'm not surprised that she is actually scheduled to debut later with other newgens but they move it forward because she has talent
Now I wasn't expecting Migo numbers, but I'll be disappointed if Gura's WWE stream can't beat a room review that wasn't even on her channel
>>2511498728k is still slippable anon. a karaoke or handcam from one the faggots can beat it
>>25115592She hasn't even started playing the game, nignog
>>25114475At this point vtuber market is dead, vtuber agency is lost to Corpo backed by investors.It's like T-series vs Pewdiepie again.
>>25115617you're like 3 years too late for that one bud
>>25115571I don't see someone that has existed a week figuring too heavily into the IPO of a company with over 200+ streamers.
>>25115592She just did
>>25114987>EN gold secured
>>25115592Why the fuck would you make a grudge post just as she's at 28800? Fucktard
salome thread? salome thread!
>>25115617
>>25115692Vox is doing ASMR and the max that gets is like 15kMysta is MIA until the 30thThere's literally no one to contest this.
>>25115688Good>>25115708Didn't say she wouldn't, just showing what my standards were
>>25115743ENTERUKI KARAOKENOW MYSTERIOUSLY AT 30K
>Salome is so irrelevant outside JP that only /#/ cares about her
>>25115712mostly of nijiSEAniggers are sleeping wait until tomorrow morning for the full force
>>25115571her timeslot helps i think, like just using chinman timeslot
>>25115708I mean... read the thread, anon. Things were briefly quiet, but the shitposters and larpers are back.
>>25115779this thread might as well be the only place that talks about nijijp aside from that dead general in /jp/ or that split that dies all the time that's about like 100 streamers in one
>>25115061>dumb kayfabeGo back watching twitch streamers then.I think that you forgot the appeal of vtubers in the first place, it was interactive anime girls, not basic egirls with anime avatars.
>>25115464How do you know it doesn't work? Have you tried to run your own script with YT API and received different results?Not saying that it's definitely working properly, but "this is weird so there MUST be something wrong" argument is dumb. It's not like Hololyzer has to do anything special to get those messages - Youtube API provides all they need.
>>25115779/#/ is the only place that matters
>>25115779
>>25115794New copium from Holocope, as expected from Coper
>>25115692KEK, nice to see we are not the only ones noticing this. It is even happening with JP.Axia's costume reveal the other day peaked at 100ish viewers above Miko and then crashed by thousands of viewers immediately. Just today Salome's stream peaked above Miko and then, just like with Axia, immediately crashed by thousands of viewers.SUS
>>25115779She has a general that's faster than the Niji JP thread
Salome's numbers literally mindbreak holobronies' mind, the amount of bot and viewfarm cope in recent threads is hilariously bafflingPrepare for the shift in power, tribalfags
>>25115683Which is why this whole Salome's thing is a case on her own.But on the other hand, we had retards investing all in NFT and Crypto and now they are offing themselves.Would not be surprised if Rikku is using Salome as a bait to catch some crypto-retards level of IQ investors.
>>25115906ah yes, a general, just like those michael cat generals that are totally about actually being fans of her
>>25115906Outside of King NijiJP has been a bunch of rare streamers and irrelevant.
>>25115893>costume reveal>crashed by thousands of viewers immediatelywhere the fuck do all you giganewfags come from holy shit
>>25115859>interactive anime girlsThis is wrong and you know it. It is interactive anime girls to a degree. The reason Hololive became so popular is that they were interactive anime girls who maintained a level of kayfabe while also seeming real in how they interact with us. I even fucking said she was good you faggot, I'm not an anti.The full on kayfabe act is novel right now but people will get tired of it quick unless she becomes more relatable.
>>25115984chinman...
So anon's how is boston? Success or flop?
>>25115989Miko's costume reveal JUST FREAKING YESTERDAY gained viewers after the reveal, lol. You are wrong.
>>25116013you mean like the city in general?
>>25116013Big Success.
>>25116013Flop. Attendees are not even clipniggers
Kobo Karaoke?
>>25116061the expo obviously. I heard the quiz was a fiasco, but were there at least alot of holo fans there and merch being pushed?
https://twitter.com/rpr/status/1530180686891601920Possible challenger to EN Gold (has to delay 2 hours, though, so it might affect his number)
>>25116100>rprThe Apex Towa guy?
>>25116100isn't rpr a twitch streamer?
>>25116100Its not gonna be on youtube dum dum. And its RPR, he might be a recognizable name but he's still some shitter
>>25116152you mean the pekora cosplayer
>>25116100does he even stream on youtube?
>>25116100Twitch
>>25115859This, amouranth viewers OUT.
>>25116100It's on twitch you ape>>25116100
30kstill in character creation
Since Salome reached 500k in less than a week after her debut, will she be able to retain this incline to 1 million subs? It will be funny if she reaches 1m in only a month considering the pun in her name.
>>25116189Wtf they're the same person?
HOW CAN HOLO COMPETE? HOLY SHIT
>>25116100Rpr is turning into a vtuber? Towa influence really attract him and the fact he wants to participate on the vtube apex tourneys
>30kso gura got higher than miko's first peak
>>25116256holy shit what the fuck
>>25115965they were literally discussing her stream yesterday and they still do till now, its only fags from here that shit up that thread
>>25115984Only 4 fucking en streams are in the top 50 ccv yesterday and 18 were came from NijiJP. What the fuck are you talking about
>>25116257Yeah but not fair to compare, after all Miko was just beginning to show of the game potential. Gura is coming in after people know its good. Kinda like being the first to stream Vampire Survivors or a horror game
>>25116256By going public ;P
>>25116256by ignoring her number
>>25114689she didnt bring any new viewers to nijibox so not really.
>>25116256>BiohazardLiterally biohazard for Hololive kek
>>25116388There were literally only 4 EN streams yesterday
>>25116242at this point its anyone's guess. I'm curious to see if anything will change after the first week's schedule.
>>25116409Holy cope
>>25116401yeah but miko was also going off of holofights
>>25116256imma save this pic to mock newest holo debut in the future
>>25114689>Niji on topInsofar as she is part of Niji, sure. All the data points she hasn't brought a single new viewer into watching any other niji members.
>>25116224shit numbershe sucks at making the characterjust wake Miko up now and ask her to help
>>25116100>Twitch>ConvertNo.
>Left /#/ for the week>missed one of the biggest arc this year
DEATHTODESUWA
>>25116256>1:29:46I thought # bros said that she is contractual to stream for only 1 hour, and will GTFO after a week. Then, it is Holo dominance.Did # bros lie to me again???????
>>25116409where do you think you are flip-chama? you reap what you sow
>>25116514>Expecting JPs to helpEveryone hates her after the constant ghosting even if they don't say it. She treats her genmates badly too. Even today she basically half assed a feedback for Kiara's new song when asked
>>25116256Wonder how she feels knowing she got those numbers, is she happy? Nervous? Sad? Wonder if the NijiJP girls are happy for her or jealous that she's making numbers they can only dream of making. (On a debut stream no less)
slow thread is slow
>>25116256It reminds me how do Luxiem fans respond to this? I remember their fans were mocking their JP branch for having shit numbers.
>>25116488wait till the 900k one become 1M for extra spice
i swear there's like 3 fags that coordinate to just samefag each other at the same time
>>25115936shalom
>>25116242She's nearly a quarter of the way to 600k already, if she is slowing down it's barely noticeable
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>11,752: Baelz (Hololive)>11,513: Ike (Nijisanji)>11,282: Amelia (Hololive)>10,419: Shu (Nijisanji)>6,578: Reimu (Nijisanji)>6,533: Mori (Hololive)>5,151: Uki (Nijisanji)The punchline? Bae/IRyS played the exact same game as Ike/Vox and Ike/Vox were even in chink hours. Yet Bae/IRyS won.
>>25116242What is the record for the fastest 1 million subs again? It belongs to Gura, right?
>>2511670135 days, yes gura
>>25116701took gura 40 days to reach a mil iirc however salome being the outlier might beat that
>>25116647Interestingly enough I also suspect that people who get interested in looking at different vtubers will most likely end up watching Holos considering the state of females at Niji.
>>25116701Yes, nobody is even close, right now. All the HoloX members slowed down like crazy once they hit the 600-700k mark
Why do people think the circumstances surrounding Salome are due to the IPO? I mean, isn't it weird to debut a single new talent to boost your image for IPO's sake? And based from what the other anons from the last thread have said, Nijisanji is already popular and normally talked about in Japan. Not sure why an image boost is necessary.
Easy 30k+ although the stream seems to confirm that Gura is worse at character creation than Miko even with language barrier so I'm unsure about if the next EN WWE streams perform well. She screwed up the eyes and made the character like a creepy doll. Miko went with the right idea at not messing up the eyes and making them wrestlers cosplaying as Holos.
>>25116760Salome is going to filter more normies into Hololive once they realize all the rest of Niji are basically just twitch thots who don't play a character
>>25116779holo board, holo copenewfagkun
>>25116779it's just their coping mechanism
>>25115936holofags were always the biggest shitposters, the amount of trolling and falseflagging those indos do is unbareable. they're finally getting kicked in the teeth and they can do nothing but cope and seethe.
>>25116701Is she even gonna make it that fast with no global audience? She's bound to hit an upper limit.
>>25116256Damn she got the subs real fast. How's other niji females that's been in the company for so long doing?
>>25116804>next EN WWE streamsThis is way too much effort for her. This will be the only WWE stream she'll do.
MIKO MOGGED>MIKO MOGGEDMIKO MOGGED>MIKO MOGGEDMIKO MOGGED>MIKO MOGGEDMIKO MOGGED>MIKO MOGGEDMIKO MOGGED>MIKO MOGGEDMIKO MOGGED>MIKO MOGGED
why does gura not have mikos numbers
>>25116779They are coping because Holo is losing its dominant stance in the vtuber industry.
>>25116779>isn't it weird to debut a single new talent to boost your image for IPO's sake?No? It's far from being the weirdest of the shenanigans played by companies looking to boost their visibility before going public. You should look up Nikola and its history
>>25116752>>25116755Gura was pretty fast, but also debuted into a much different environment considering the state of vtubers at the time. What was really impressive was her legs/benefit of an EN market. Even if Salome made 1mil faster I can't see her matching the other milestones - if she could reach them at all.
>>25116541It's been threads on threads of shitposting anon, you didn't miss much. All of it can be summarized as "Niji solo debuted a new talent and she's on fire right now (in a good way). Unprecedented numbers".
>>25116256shes mogging no.1 jp streamer jun too
what the fuck is that audience
>>25116804There's no question that she is, because she is lazy, or Miko is autistic about it, your choice. She's also fighting normal wrestlers, she's just doing her own thing, I don't expect this to be power content for her.Ah shit she didn't turn off entrances, she's gonna get this dmca'd isn't she.
>>25116886Because she has higher
>>25116779It's just holocope.
>>25116886but shes beat miko's first wwe stream?
>>25116779>Nijisanji is already popular and normally talked about in JapanHow do you PROVE this to the stakeholder without real NUMBERS?
>>25116779holofags can't accept that they're whores can only do the cutesy teetee act and aren't actually charismatic. they don't have the gaming skills of vspo nor do they have the sing talent of top tier nijis. they're in perpetual cope from being failed normalfags and being on the losing side.
>>25116477How many people watch holofights?
>>25116905the goalpost.. its moving
>>25116931ah nevermind, looks like that was music she was playing.
I can't believe /#/ is actually having a crisis even though Gura is climbing up to 33k right now playing a fucking gameWhat is wrong with people here jesus christ
>Luxiem came >broke SC records>/#/ no longer numberfag SC>The Whore of Babylon mogged the shit out of holo ccv>....Would we still numberfag ccv bros? How can holofag ever recover from this?
>>25116931She's on streamer mode, so no music issues.
so hows the shitposting been today
>>25116647If we take Mito's personal experience as a reference, then Salome must be getting physically sick from the crushing pressure and is wishing for her fad to be over right now.
>>25116886Miko is actually entertaining
>>25116966Miko was pioneering at the time. Gura is riding the wave after Miko already made it popular.
>>25117038Nobody cares about Gura, anon.
>>25116779gigacope from the retarded tribalniggers who've been saying niji is dying for months
>>25117010only a couple thousand but it had over a years worth of hype building up a wwe fight
>>25116886gura is just dead sub central
>>25116911Jun gang status? Holy shit.
>>25116776JP market size is a real problem. Fastest 1 mil is maybe doable, but I don't see any JP beating Gura's 2 mil.
>>2511703833k ain't no 113k biohazard
>>25116886I opened gura's stream, and she's just fucking boringMeanwhile when I watch Miko I can't help but lose my sides everytime
>>25117038>>25117044seeing holobronies going through a midlife crisis is fucking hilarious.almost like when coco made numberfagging entirely pointless with her record CCV number.
>>25117082That's not how it works.
>>25117057Still getting raided by the Flip discord. They know they've got to live it up before Niji goes back to getting daily shit stompings
>>25116996they have internal numbers seadogchama. I know it's hard for you to conceptualize that, now go back to facebook.
try being less obvious
>>25116966She's got momentum from Miko's streams. When NIKKI A.S.H. entered the ring, chat started spamming shuba.
>>25117079Let us know when Niji stops stepping on its tail.
>samefagging
>>25117130Same but with Salome. Holowhores are just so fucking boring.
>>25116256It's embarrassing for vtubers as a whole.She's getting more CCV and views than almost every Nijisanji stream in history, and is out-competing Hololive's current best.
>>25117164So in other words dude trust me!As if anyone believes this
>>25117199still about 4k added
>>25117152gonna cry?
>>25116779>if I reply to this post 30 times saying holocope I win
>>25114251She always switches to normie hours whenever she gets involved with events that require her to do normie hours. She's been working on:- Project V tv show thing- Ui On Stage live event- V-cani reharsal maybe- Birthday recording maybeShe's going back to usual hours after these days
>>25116779Niji has been ceding ground to holo for a while now.They used to have a bunch of boasts on their site about how they have the most popular vtubers but they've had to take those down.A big viral debut right before IPO would help show potential investors that their brand still has power and can draw the public eye.
>>25116997Thanks for the input random Nijisanji fan, anyway Holo still doing good regardless of the desuwa girl so not sure where you're getting that high and mighty energy from. Give it two weeks before she starts lowering her numbers, because at the end of the day a streamer is only as good as it's core audience that stays with them(with Vox only having 2-3k concurrent viewers recently)
>>25117044true kek, watching that manwhore vox beat their whores every month with his SC just for the numberniggers to do "muh merch" cope is so funny especially as if his chink fujos weren't paying out the ass for his merch.
>>25117079Nijiniggers prove themselves to be subhumans again
>>25117164>they have internal numbersHow do you prove you're the most popular with internal numbers you fucking retard? You need to compare to the internal numbers of your competitors to make any claims about whether or not you're more popular than them
>>25117308unless you think she's gonna get 80k+ viewers on this (lol) its kinda irrelevant.
>>25116256Holy shit it's amazing how she's beating everyone before her, kek.She'll have 1m subs faster than anyone else in history.Anyone knows why this is the case? I don't know if this board has any hardcore nijifans since the early days but how are they taking this?
>>25116966that stream has some of the worst overlapsalso zero hype as that come out of nowhere
>>25117357>lacklusterjust like your 3D outfit last night Miko san!
>>25117308yeah, it's still impressive
>Gura losing>Views just tankKek
>>25117373most people say it's like when mito first debuted in 2018.that energy is back in 2022 in the forefront, same gamechanging rise
>>25116905>different environmentSo does Salome. Japs dont easily give out subs, and you should know that it is a cultural thing by now.>other milestonesI presume you were talking about Gura reaching 2m and 3m subs since we are strictly discussing about numbers right now. Then all of that subscriber count doesn't matter because they are dead subs who don't even tune in on her streams at all.
>Migo got 111k ccv>suddenly Salome got 113k on her 2nd RE playthroughI aint saying it's fake BUT, something smells fishy here
>>25117334look at the absolute cope, you were getting mogged in SC by that whore vox and now you're getting mogged in views by desuwa, if you don't care about numbers than go to you're puny little hugbox general.
>>25117079Niji is objectively dying. Watching the cope when this flash in a pan ends and Niji is back to sub 10k streams every day is going to be interesting.
>>25117231It's going to keep going for a long time.
>>25117373holo got no oujo sama, wait they do but she rarely stream lmao
>>25117448I don't get it lmao, were those tourists expecting Gura to dominate the gameplay?
>>25117408The outfit is pure sex. What are you talking about?
>>25117483>yessu indian bottu farmu san? >putto justo enafu biyuas to bittu za migo
>>25117038they are braindead shitposters you should ignore them>>25112746
>>25117541Odds we're getting a holo summer arc?
>>25117541
>>25117515I don't blame them, I would take 3 month breaks aswell if 60% of my chat was filled with retards.
>>25117483with all the bait, it's impossible to make Assumptions
>>25117075Miko made it popular in JP.The audience grew each time because Miko was building on each stream.You'd have to be a moron to think that an EN would gain that much from their own unrelated gameplay.There's also the well documented CCV issue so Gura already has much higher than Miko's first stream.
>>25117044Serious question, is this unironically a turning point for niji? Ngl I kinda feel the similar vibe with holo back in 2020 lately
>>25117606hopefully, that's what twitch is for
>>25117483What? You're saying that it's kind of weird that a brand new vtuber is getting more viewers every single stream playing the same game which has never happened before, getting 15k viewers joining the stream within a span of a second, having a slower chat than Flare and just in time for Any Color to use her to pump their IPOThat must be holocope! Ignore it!
>>25117334RORU RORU RUMAOTHE ABSOLUTE HOLOCOPESEETHE MORE FAGGOT
>>25117620
>>25117478I was going to give you a serious response until the second part. Instead you get a (You) and fuck off.
>>25117324thanks a lot anon
>>25117660No way anon! You're just coping!! H-HOLOCOPE!
>>25117664
>>25117660It's h-holocope...please just ignore it. Please we need a fucking win WE NEED THIS
nijifans have been coping for daysnow it's time for holofans to copeCOOOOOPE
>>25117373Holy shit it's amazing how you are replying to your own post for million times, kek.You'll have 1m (you) faster than any anon in the history of 4chan.Does anyone know why this is the case? I don't know if this board had any hardcore Nijishill since the early days but how are they taking this?
>>25117644of course it is, turning points don't happen in the span of the day they take months. holo is losing in the SC department and soon they'll be losing in the views department. just wait for them to bring up the subscribers cope when it happens and eventually they'll lose that too.
>>25117038>33k>GoodThis is the most buffed game in Holo history. She should show she actually has real viewers with her 4m subs. But as we can see not even 1% showed up for stream
If I was Enikara staff and Riku told me to bot the newest member to make her seem really popular I'd go for 100k+ on her debut then like 80k on the first gaming stream slowly decreasing each time, not fucking 113k on Biohazard stream #3It might sound weird but because the numbers are so unbelievable it actually makes it believable
>>25117660anon, at least on the chat speed front, there are actual numbers on that from Hololyzer.
>>25117660>>25117703>>25117743did salome mind break you anon?
>Gura spends literally 95 mins doing just her character>Can't play vs males because she didn't even check how it works>Plays against a random female>Gets mogged>Rematch>Mogged again>Starts playing the tutoriali think she's legit retarded
>>25117660this is a holocope for sure
What the fuck is Gura doing? Just have the CPU fight each other.
>>25117660holocope. go back to sleep. nothing sttrange here stop noticing things
>>25117805Completely and utterly
>>25117809ain't it great
>>25117809how new?
>>25117519>to dominate the gameplay>Flashback to the Monopoly collab on Kiara's channel and literally most of the chat, not members of course, were rooting for Gura more than the othersThey took the Apex predator meme too seriously...
>>25117660>>25117664>>25117703>>25117743>>25117791kek, actually mind broken.
>>25117809Why didn't she learn how to play the game off stream? This is Mori level retardation and why EN has been reclining. Do your fucking prep work you dumb bitches.
Out of all the English language streams going on right now, Gura is 3rd behind XQC and Mizkif. JP numbers are killing your brains.
>>25117809Yes.And this is why she'll keep getting shit numbers for normal things, because she's retarded and doesn't do any prep work for these things.Like, I would've expected her to at least have done the tutorial to actually know how to play the game off-stream.
>>25117768If holo really got overtaken by niji this year, i'll put all the blame on those lazy EN whores who do next to nothing to maintain their positions as the top chuuba!
>>25117894But she won monopoly..
Is the vtubing industry thrving yet again?The recent newborns like Vox, Kobo and Salome are such anomalies that they are captivating and bringing in a whole new audience demographic
>>25117809>i think she's legit retardedhow new?
>>25117644I think Gura's debut already represented a similar event and it wasn't a turning point in any way for Hololive. There's only a single new EN gen after Gura and both EN gens barely stream; moreover, a random HoloID is growing faster than every Holo and Niji EN.I can't help but wonder if her acting so strongly in-character might even backfire when all these non-Niji fans try looking for similar vtubers. Most livers don't act like stereotype characters at all (though some do great at it, so maybe they'll get a massive fallout buff from desuwa).Maybe it'll end up helping Niji as a whole though. I actually expected a future runaway vtuber to appear in the Apex vtuber crowd, rather than a character archetype one.
>HAHA HOLO COPE >COPE RORU COPE COPE HOWOCOPE>SEETHE COPE RORU RUMAO COPE
>>25117919She can't even write proper stream description lol. Literally copy pasting Miko's permission
>>25117920>separating JP Vtuber from a JP Corpo EN VtuberThey're both under a JP corpo faggot. They both have JP viewers. You're just coping because Holowhores are irrelevant and boring as shit
>>25117953I exclusively blame Gura for not putting her boot on Nijis throat when she had the chance and ending them for good.
*Helicopter
>>25117919Or don't even learn how to play the game. Just do CPU vs. CPU. That is what all the popular WWE streams do.
2021>median holo>daily gold holo>total views holo>total watchtime & avg holo>total SC holo2022>median salome/niji>daily gold salome/niji>total views holo>total watchtime & avg holo>total SC niji/nijicnits over holobros...
>>25117972>I can't help but wonder if her acting so strongly in-character might even backfireIt's kinda interesting to see her progress from now on. Especially how her strong keyfabe would fare in collabs with other niji
>>25118040mate gura is never going to give half a shit about numbers
>>25117967The only anomaly here is Salome.
Samefag less blatantly next time onegai
>>25117920anon... that's numberrot
this thread>samefag samefag samefag samefag samefag bait samefag bait bitesbait normalcomment samefag samefag bait
>>25117644Could be? It depends on how they utilize the virality of Salome
>>25117660anon, i'm a holofan but just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it isn't the case. Its not the end of the world even if Hololive becomes 2nd biggest again. Hololive is still very strong, and as its still thriving, there are any number of chances to even the field again in the future, or have the field evened on its own, no number of baits can change that.
>>25118124burger hours are the worst
>>25118102Idk what she think! Cover should've put myth on a training camp and educate them on the importance and responsibility of fame and numbers!
h-holocope. stop pointing out how blatantly salome bots you fucking niggers, we live in SEA, do you realize how much we need this W? Let us have it
>>25117477>most peopleyourself
>holox debut>/#/ inclining>ccvid>/#/ reclining>salomebox>/#/ inclining
>>25118175THE HOLOCOPE IS OUTSTANDING>2ND PLACE IS OKAY2ND PLACE IS 1ST PLACE LOSERRORU RORU RUMAO
>bled 6k viewers instead of going right into kroniifuck's sake goomba
>>25117660>>25117664>>25117703>>25117743>>25117791>>25118214take your meds gramps, you're seeing bots again!
gura would probably be happier pulling rosemi numbers
>>25117913>>25118214
>>25117967I still don't get where the "new demographic are watching Salome" narrative comes from. She IS a good streamer, but one would think her gimmick would appeal primarily to a niche group (i.e the oujou enjoyer). I would say that her viewership comes from Niji's base itself.
gura absolutely sucks at this but i dont think theres any EN who would be good
>>25118254Direct your complaints to somebody who cares.
>>25118176Where the fuck were you last night when we had a thread hit 1500 off of even worse garbage?
>>25118296She should fucking leave if she can't be professional about her job
>>25118296No because then she'd have to work for a living
>>25118254Oh nyo. Nobody cares.
>>25117809fully expected, she isn't miko. This is where the whole 'only miko can do this comes in', because she is the perfect blend of entertainer and creative autism. Gura is just too lazy, and can't fill the empty space like Miko can.
fauna?
What a garbage thread. Retards woke up again.
look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
>>25118179nta, of course that they should give her freedom to do what she wants as long as she doesn't cause any yab and /we/ are the only people who care that much about numbers, but using for almost two years the "she doesn't care about numbers" as an excuse for not preparing streams should stop at some point
Fauna in Goomba VC!!
>>25118336i'm usually at morning anonchama
>Fauna joined>Not KroniiWell
>>25118104As far as ID is concerned Kobo is very much an anomaly.
>>25118159>how they utilize the virality of SalomeNow this is the interesting part. Salome seems to be really well prepared for her every stream (as if she has a whole team to write her whole stream and make those kino preview). Im really curious to see how niji would capitalize her style and virality to increase their overall popularity and profits
tsk tskNijisanjifags never forgave Cover for turning its back on the CCP.
>>25118175Thank you Anon, you're probably right.If we look at it from the bright side Niji doing this will likely push the Hologirls to pick up the phase, being number 1 for too long made them lax and they need a reminder that there is still competition out there, so this turns out for the better funny enough, Ayame randomly streaming today/yesterday is proof of that and Aqua is streaming today too!
>>25118441MIKO IS THE BEST
gura should take the anya outlook on numbers
>>25118466
OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed! >salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!anything im missing?
Yet another lazy stream where EN just spams open VC
>>2511852599% of the Nijifags here are just the chink fujos who dislike GFE and Hololive. Notice the complete lack of Luxiem posting now they have something else to troll with?
>>25118521Apparently she's tourist central because the other members didn't get any funnel from her, but there is also a chance that people don't like her collabing with other people. Idk, it's the first time we have something like this and it's impossible to know what's going to happen
>>25118593>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company
>>25118567They are working at this hour.
>>25118593>Nijiniggers get a shitty RE7 stream>HoloCHADS get Miko performing an amazing concert with her much improved idol reps and an amazing new outfit that is pure sexYeah, I think HoloCHADS won this round. Cry more about it Nijikek.
>>25118521>Salome seems to be really well prepared for her every stream (as if she has a whole team to write her whole stream and make those kino preview).It reminds me of Ai Kizuna style vtuber but it's a liveMasaka!
I wish SEA would go to sleep forever
>samefagging >Doesn't even know what a cope list isunironically kys
dbs was a calamity for this site
>>25118593Right on brother, we need to stop these fags noticing things. It's all COPE. Holocope! We won for once. Selamat malam
>>25118593>say cope>post true statementsyou guys are worse than shareblue
schizo quality declining
>>25118593you have no idea what a cope is jesus christ, half of those things are speculations or observations
Somebody tell Gura that she need to do CPU vs. CPU. That is what all the popular WWE stream do. Why was she actually playing?
>>25118683>implying they have jobs
>spamming Miko imagesAah the usual holocope mechanism.
>>25118683>They are working at this hour>4chan users>They are working>on SUNDAYlook at this absolute fucking clown
OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!keep them coming holobronies
management called in a council to save this stream because gura is drowning
>>25118472Yeah im really tired of their indifference. I tolerated it in the past because i was hoping a time where they pulled all stop and became more passionate and active on reaching an higher height. Ofc there was multiple occasions when they do kino stuff but im tired of their on-off mode. One day they went all passionate and la cretividad followed by weeks to months of unmotivate streams or straigjt up taking long breaks every month or two
>>25118593Copying hololive memes again, I see.It's useless if you don't have the links bro. Try again
>>25118779kek
>>25117541yes but look where you at anon, we are on /#/113k beats 111k
>>25118593
>>25118844>2nd biggest companyAre you retarded?>JPHolo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining>ENHolo easily wins this too. NijiEN had a giga buffed month with a 2 week off collab, karaoke streams, and celebrations. Yet Holo still have 7 out of the top 10 spots for actual viewership>IDNot even a competition. Easy Holo winTell me again where Niji wins? Maybe China, lmao.
>>25118953kek
>>25118824Monkeys work 24/7 purisu andastando anon
>>25118953Fucking kek, I get the reference
>>25118628I remember when open VC shit was only used in Minecraft streams, why the fuck do they use this in every fucking games
>>25118312Wasn't this narrative fortified because Salome's viewers didn't funnel into the other livers at all? Even if we are being generous, there was like 4-5k incline in total funneling to 10+ streamers, which is a miniscule amount. About 100,000 people literally disappeared after her stream ended.
>>25118955>t-they buffed ,doesn't count>i-its just one girl mogging, doesn't count
>>25118955Stop samefagging you dog water
>>25118684as far as I'm concerned, every day Miko streams is a day I'm winning
>>25119024they don't
>>25118779>>25118824Anon philippine isn't 1st world, they don't have NEETbux, they can't sit all day and shitpost on this site, they have to earn money to survive.>sundayMr Lim doesn't care if its Sunday or not
Looks like I struck a nerve, salome is the gift that keeps on givingOFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining
>>25119024they hardly ever use it, and sometimes when they do nobody even joins
>>25119047can you even read?
>green whore leeching off Gura for the millionth time Yawn
>>25119024They don't and the fans like it so why wouldn't they do it? You realize Miko had 8 people in VC on her last WWE stream right?
>>25119078>I'll just keep reposting it>I totally won guys
>>25118953MIKOTI WON, BY A LOT!
>>25119078
what ever happened to the jew tubers
>>25119058ThisIf we are being honest Miko wins actual gold everyday because she warms my heart and makes me feel alive.
>>25119132That is a proper planned collab. Not randomly having people join VC in solo streams
>>25118953fuck, I chuckled
This scares Holokek.
>>25119143Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started. I'm winning along with her to be along for the ride.
so.. which one is the winner?
>>25119078How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.
>>25116256How did she do it? Am I missing something?
>>25119229it's a tokyo revengers reference
>>25119128I think you mean>The 100th time Gura being lazy about making her own content and has to leech other people
100% struck a nerve since you keep replying, you should ignore me but you keep giving me material OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining>Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started.>How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.
>>25119255at this point salome is gonna win
>>25119255Both of them are 1-1. We need a tie breaker.
jesas christ, Gura's whole 'copypaste' thing REALY looks ugly and filtering.The worst part of it is that it will probably prevent Miko from making actually good versions of EN....
>>25119255Ojou-sama is too strong desuwaShrine maiden BTFO
>>25119295by being cute retarded oujo sama desuwa
>people giving attention to an obvious samefag baiterYou are literally retarded
Koyori 10k
>>25119255Tonight is Salome's night. Miko is most likely going to take it easy. Salome is going to stream on the buffest day of the week. I expect her to beat Kuzuha's gaming record.
https://youtu.be/iAXP5i-StVIThis got into my recommended feed. It actually has more views than ame's vod. Now here's the question, is clips actually hurting holoen?
>>25119255In my heart? Miko, in numbers? Salmon girl. At the end of the day we all know how each member is and how they got here today.
>>25119400So by botting?Because I watched her and she's just like any other vwhore
>4th time he reposts it
>>25119368Nobody cares that much. The cursed models are funny. The only thing that I hope happens is that Gura continues making EN and then at the end there is a big Gura/Miko collab with a big Royal Rumble.
>coco killed peak ccv numberfagging>luxiem killed SC numberfagging>salome killed daily gold numberfaggingwhos going to kill vod numberfagging?
>>25119368>it will probably prevent Miko from making actually good versions of ENgood
How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.>S-Salome is just like any other whore
>>25119327Please add "Salome is honorary Holo"Shit is hilarious
>>25119363LMAO, Salome got gold 3 days in a row. The winner is already clear
>>25119520Then explain
>>25119469ty for the seeth and cope
>>25119554We are talking about the head to heads jackass. Keep up and pay attention.
>>25119255Us, we get the big nice numbers all numberfags love.
OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining>Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started.>How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.>S-Salome is just like any other whore>Salome is honorary Holo
>5
>>25119562>seetheI literally don't care I'm just curious what made her popular? It's not her *whatever*.
>>25119583Based
Ina would have been good at character creation see her Miitopia streams. Too bad that her commentary would have been boring and her lack of energy would not fit. Maybe as a collab with Ina it could have worked?
>>25119238Yep, everyday that Miko streams is a day that Hololive wins spiritual gold. Miko heals the soul and makes even the most cold hearts melt with pure love.
>>25119583someone post the official nijicope list now for equality
>all this shitpostinginb4 she slows down to a crawl like every other vtuber you retards shilled
>>25119744I can't wait. I have pages of screenshots ready to go for grudge posting when she becomes a sub 10k shitter like every other Niji.
Notice how fast they switched from Cuxiem to Shalom. Anything they can use to weaponize their shitposting. These guys are not fans, philippinos can't be fans.
>>25119744no she wont
>>25119744>Slows downAnonchama. She has only inclined in numbers since her debut. She is only going to ACCELERATE from now on
Miko is eternal.
>>25119583alright someone else can take it from here, im outcurrent holocope list:OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining>Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started.>How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.>S-Salome is just like any other whore>Salome is honorary HoloFeel free to add
>>25119821>>25119830I hope for you it's true>>25119805Lol if what they're saying it's true it won't happen but it would be funny
Nijiniggers can doompost about Hololive as much as they want, but they haven't realized their precious superstar will fall off after her debut buff is expired just like any women in that company
>>25119835Miko is not only eternal, she has an unyielding heart!
>6th time he posts it
The 1 hour format is unironically underrated. It helps with the gimmick and easy for normies to swallow.
>>25119702>Spiritual GoldHololive wins this everyday since Hololive has soul and makes their viewers feel like part of the family. All it takes to heal my stress from the day is to watch Hololive, especially Miko!!Niji on the other hand has no soul and just parrots the awful Japanese variety shows. Just awful bottom of the barrel content running off a script. Totally lacking soul.
>Bae enters>CCV drops Kek
Reminder to report spammers
>>25119924OFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining>Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started.>How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.>S-Salome is just like any other whore>Salome is honorary Holo>It's debut buff, she will definitely recline. J-Just you wait
i don't know what i did to fuck my main browser, but now i have to refresh to update the numbers
>>25120047
>>25119805It's going to be sad when that happens because you can tell Niji tribal people don't even watch her or care about her, they're just throwing her around for bragging rights, so when her hype dies down and everyone starts calling then out suddenly it's not fair and it was a fluke or they'll bring back Vox from whatever closet they left him in.
>>25120060Hololive is the spirit of this board, its very foundation. Whether Holofan or nijifan, discussion revolves around Hololive and comparison to Hololive, love or hate, utterly rent free.
Protip: in the unlikely event Gura streams this again, numbers will be lower. EOPs don't give a fuck about "arcs".
>>25118953Perfectly normal. Nothing to see here you racist sexist bigot.
still a better thread than /∞/
Goddamn what's happening with this thread. See you guys again in an hour, I guess.
>>25120333at best she'll stream it 2-3 weeks from now
>>25120349When did I make it to /pol/?
>>25120333I think I'll be switching to Ame when she comes on, shit's boring and Gura just can't carry it.
>randomly show up on my recommendationhow do we save Major Pain Wrestling Federation?
## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITIONNumbered for your convenience and easy referencing.Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)** CLASSIC **> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312 >>24804708)</span>> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>** NUMBERS **> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>** MERCH AND SPONSORS **> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)** IT DOESN'T COUNT **> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)** GENERAL **> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)And when all else fails...> #45 Blatant Lying> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)And after all that...> #46 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 <span class="deadlink">>>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831</span>
>>25120459ah, the classic. fully sourced and everything
>>25120333It depends how viral her clips get.
>>25120459Holy fuck Nijikeks?Salam or whatever her shit name is could literally get 1000 billion subs but it wouldn't cancel all of thisHow the fuck do you even live knowing you got mogged all these many times?WHAT THE FUCK.
>>25120333it depends on how much the streamer supports the arc
>>25120333>Gura>Streaming WWE againShe was already struggling with content after 2 hours that she had to open VC and you expect her to stream it again?
>>25120531Nothing viral has happened this stream yet.
>>25120616Character creation was already kinda cursed/viral
face it ENtards, JPs are just better streamers
this is now the small number worship (SNW) thread
>>25120611Learn to read.>unlikely eventI don't.
Did you notice that there has been barely any voxposting ever since sashimi's debut?
>>25120694shills are too stupid to follow two sets of orders
>>25120706i prefer the comet
>>25120706I'm so SORRY!!! I LOVE YOU MIGO!!!!
>>25120694No one who watches vox comes here, it was always shitposters. Don't reply to any salomeposters, just report them.
Say you are a mane-chan for one of the EN3 girl and she asked (You) what would the best contents for max numbers for the next week or two, what's your answer anon?
>>25120706Migo, gomen
>>25120694>>25120786You'd think people would understand this by now.
>>25120694Don't worry. Once Salome reclines they will fetch Box from out of the trash bin they threw him in.
>>25120806Basically do what Chloe did. Karaoke, some meme games and other CCV bait
>>25120806>EN>numbersAnonchama..
>>25120786Rest in pieces, anon who watched Vox for the sake of numbers.
Can Hololive even do a solo debut at this point. What would they even DO in the first week.
>>25120961Hololive has done multiple solo debuts and they are some of their biggest talents like Miko and Suisei.
>>25120961Irys. Ended up backfiring
>>25118091this, hololive is getting their asses kicked before our eyes and cover employees are on full defense
i just want a kubo chuuba
>>25121019That was back when holo was a runt anonchama. You should use Irys as an example instead
>>25120806Can't give a good answer as it depends on what's happening and her strengths. Holo news programs can be strong if they want to put the work in like Coco. FotMs and even karaoke (if they can sing) are solid. If they've been in for a bit and know much about those in their branch something where you make the other Holos like wrestling arc can work as long as long as the particular game hasn't been overtapped.
>>25121049?IRyS is doing fine numbers wise and she has a very dedicated fanbase who send her plenty of money. She rivals Kiara with HoloEN superchats.
>>25120961The last one was IRyS, and the numbers were fairly disappointing
>>25119805If she becomes a sub 10k shitter she already would be doing great for nijisanji
>>25121019That was way back. Now they are doing the way safer "collab" strat (which honestly, not that interesting)
>>25121019Suisei and Miko both predate the generation system. The only hololive solo debut since gen 1 is Irys
Is Salome /ourgirl/ now?
>>25121116She's treated like shit by COVER sadly
NA prime time top streams on youtube, how do we save NA?
>>25121116>IRyS is doing fine numbers wiseBarely anyone listens to her songs.
>>25121202>Is a Niji /ourgirl/ on a Hololive boardFuck no
>>25121227>1300 bucks for 3 hour of character creationThat's itI'm becoming a woman
>>25121227Damn, Gura strong
>holobro itt comparing the goat Salome to floprys
>>25121267Oh forgot to mention I'm a NijiCHAD btw
>>25121202she will be irrelevant once new gen from holojp drops in so enjoy it for now.
>>25121049>>25121124Irys has a wet blanket of a personality, EN's Roboco. But the worst offense and the biggest reason for failure is her absolute abomination of a design. No vtuber will succeed with such a garbage design. She's basically the complete opposite of Salome, someone with a God tier design and a fun kayfabe. It's actually insane how shitty every HoloENs personality is. Even the charismatic ones like Gura and Kronii can't stop their depression and mental illness from seeping into their performances. EN needs a Pekora ASAP. (And a Koyori honestly too).
>>25121221Retard.
>>25121232This is a bit of an overeggagerated thing which gets posted all the time. Is she as strong as Mori and Suisei? Of course not, but her songs do pretty well.If you look at her topic channel and her spotify channel she has multiple songs with millions of views. The thing with her is that a lot of her music got uploaded to youtube music and spotify first so of course the actual music video versions are going to lag behind since everybody has already heard the songs. I think just look at those then is disingenuous. Her views aren't bad when you look at all the platforms.
>>25120706yes mikochi, but I must extol your virtues to all, even the shitposters.
>>25121411Post numbers, charts, and graphs or shut the fuck up. Irys is a failure until you post numbers that say she isn't.
>>25118593>males will never make it big out in the west>luxiem are all viewbotted!>luxiem SC doesn't matter>sana is bigger than all of the nijiEN girls if you ignore all of the ones that are bigger than her>merch is more important than SC>salome has few fanart>they're all tourists>if you ignore the fact it's midnight none of her viewers are being funneled!
>>25121380Her design is fine, but thanks for confirming that all the people doomposting about it were nijiniggers
>>25121391How am I wrong?Please explain.
>>25121380Watch streams.
>>25120806I'd have to know her personality first for max numbers
a new solo debut vsinger is in the worksyou didn't hear it from me
eh if singing brought views, then the best singer in hololive, Towa would be number 1
>>25121380>IRyS has a wet blanket of a personalityHow to tell you haven't watched her at all between the first couple streams. She is super charismatic and engaged with chat. You don't watch her fag.
>>25121464>She's a failure based on the numbers I don't postNeck yourself.
>>25121202nah, Holoboard, it doesn't matter if the niji has 1 trillion subs and 500 million live viewers, they could never be /ourgirl/
>>25120706OH SHIT, can you post the clean version? This is exploitable as fuck and I want to use it.
>Suckyes please
>>25121475I'm a unitychad >her design is fine
>>25121508Good taste but it's Suisei and only contrarians think otherwise
>>25121511Irystocrats are biggest copium addicts on this board.
>>25121475>Her design is fineIt's ugly as fuck. I'm not going to say it's the reason why she's doing "poorly", I think as an entertainer she's bland as hell, but it's ugly as fuck.
>>25120706
>>25121648Again, you don't watch her
>>25121086>karaoke (if they can sing)Even if they can't.
unrelated to vtuber but what is the highest CCV peak stream on YouTube of all times?
>>25121508Towa is not very good unless you like yelling and poor vocal control.
What I've gotten out of this so far is that morb meme is inclining.
>>25121665The biggest problem is that her art style feels completely off from the classic avatars Hololive usesWhen you put her near another Holo you notice it, it's like she's from a different company.
>>25121475holy COPE
>>25121744>unrelated to vtuberkys
>>25121665>It's ugly as fuck.No it isn't. Fucking retards think not being a moeblob = bad. Irys art style is actually much better than regular anime style vtubers. The fact you prefer vtubers that look like they're drawn by Studio DEEN is indicative of your shit taste and poor sense of aesthetics.
>>25121568Enjoy
>>25120706i will rape migo before she rapes me.
>>25121744I know the space jump had 8 million CCV but I don't know if anything has topped it.
>>25121784Okay, I agree with >>25121648You fuckers are high on copium.
>>25121380>EN needs a Pekora ASAP. (And a Koyori honestly too).Personally I think an EN Marine would be more beneficial. Imagine someone with her charisma generating viewers without having to rely on playing games all the time.
>>25121737Unless You're good like Suisei, IRyS, Watame, etc or SOUL like Noel you're probably off doing something else. It generally does above average for someone's numbers, but you need to stick out in someway to do well with it.
>>25121466 thanks for the suggestions, I’ll browse through the archive for credibility laterOFFICIAL HOLOCOPE LIST>mikos new 3d costume live will beat salome! gold guaranteed!>salome's popularity is due to bots!>her reveal is just an IPO scam!>her chat is too slow!>her vod views are inconsistant!>shes not that entertaining!>It's okay if Hololive is just the 2nd biggest company>y-you shouldn't write a cope list, these aren't cope worthy!>Holo is clearly bigger and one new talent from Niji getting good numbers isn't going to change the fact that the rest of their "talents" are declining>Migo is eternally winning to even get to this level considering where she started.>How is that last one a cope when its true? Hololive has been stomping Niji talents for years. Some new bitch isn't going to change the fact that the rest of the Niji talents will continue getting stomped.>S-Salome is just like any other whore>Salome is honorary Holo>It's debut buff, she will definitely recline. J-Just you wait>males will never make it big out in the west>luxiem are all viewbotted!>luxiem SC doesn't matter>sana is bigger than all of the nijiEN girls if you ignore all of the ones that are bigger than her>merch is more important than SC>salome has few fanart>they're all tourists>if you ignore the fact it's midnight none of her viewers are being funneled!
>>25121747And what if I do??
>>25121868EN needs to graduate because none of them will ever beat Salome
>>25121868>charisma>Western worldEven political leaders are literal betas.
>>25121868Nah, Pekora, Koyori, and Marine would be good but they don't need that. They need a Miko. Miko is somebody who streams a ton of hours but is also fantastic at organizing collabs, events, and narrative streams (like her WWE series).The need a Miko
jesus christ the shitposters are now collating their own posts into a list
>>25121901How do you feel about smoking?
>>25121925Datte boku wa hoshi dakara?I'm doing it bros, I'm becoming Japanese
it's a terrible month to be a holobro, their country elected the son of a former dictator and now their whores are getting their asses kicked by some new nijinigger. I'm sure things will get better for you when china and the USA decide to split up your country sometime in the next 50 years.
>>25121977Miko benefits from also having a strong roster in Hololive. I think the "needs X" type of member should be more of an "X, Y, Z". Also unironically EN needs an early 2020 Coco.
>>25119481Also Salome
Reminder
>>25121897its not even sourced...
>>25122222>quintsNijifags constantly losing on numbers
>>25122222checked. Also why are Nijicucks so mentally ill?
>>25122244The 3 previous threads provide all the proof and to find the luxiem cope is just going through the archive during the march period.I’ll do it when I wake up.also Salome acknowledged her numbers, she’s a number faghttps://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1530748513545605120?s=21
Reminder that when nobody bites they don't leave, they just change bait/sides.
>>25121883>IRyS
>>25122334bring it back when its sourced then, it just looks so weak next to the nijicope list without it.... a fraction of the power...
>>25121977My Hopes For EN 3:EN PekoraEN MikoEN MarineEN CocoEN Fubuki
>>25122387Yes. She sings well, anon. Do you want a (You) that badly?
Imagine if Niji can find an EN desuwa, could totally change the Hololive domination on this board
>>25122183Basically this, it doesn't matter if you have one good chuuba if the others don't want/can to keep up with her. The next EN3 needs at least 2 or 3 girls willing to do things and talented
>>25122452> /#/, m-muh sing well
>>25121281THEY ARE doing really well
>>25122177https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--X9qC46TFc
https://youtu.be/FlY7P6QcrocOpinions?
Around 56k watching Hololive.
>>25122595Imagine unironically shilling garbageI can understand viewers but for music is so sad>bro this is shit, just look at Baby Shark! it has billions of views!This is literally you kek
>>25122674can they play texas holdem?
>>25122595And? It's a great song.
>>25122674Why the fuck isn't EN doing shit like this?
>>25122084I don't smoke but for some reason I find it strangely attractive.
>>25122674where's koyori or chloe? why is towa here of all people
What the fuck is up with her Twitter engagement. This is the first time I’m truly stumpedhttps://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1530748513545605120?s=21
>>25122595Those aren't bad numbers though.
>>25122718>>25122761numbers thread desuthe number is the only thing that matters desu
>>25122830Only 16k likes? Pathetic
>>25122822Towa is the boss of Gen 6.
>>25122830Unironically Nijisanji topic + her being buffed af right now
>>25122813>EN Management>doing something
Kek
just checked out salmon>absolutely atrocious rigging>mic sounds like a tin canyeah this explains the views
>>25122595Just here to remind you that Laplus got 43k views in 24 hours and is currently at 18k views in the last 15 hoursThis is the most pushed jp holo in the past year btwAlso the one who just had a birthday btw
>>25122978Pathetic. Come back when you get engagement like this. >>25122830
>>25115864NTA, but I've scraped streams before, both live and archive. Yes, the numbers don't make sense. They are EXTREMELY low given the audience size. Most likely it is using numbers from an archived chat log, which YT deletes a ton of chat data before releasing. The actual live chat from the stream should be many times higher in terms of message count.
>>25122830>>25122936Even then, considering her youtube explosion her twitter engagement isn't that high. Like I mentioned before, Mysta and Vox get more likes than that just by talking about drinking each other's piss. Also, aside from the piece drawn by Nene's mama your typical Gura fan art gets more likes than pretty much all of the Salome stuff.
>>25122978Gura is my favorite sport
>>25122936why isn't there a hololive topic?>>25122813doing what, a collab? they do too many boring collabs already
>>25122999Cope.
>>25122595Anonchama. Views on a song isn't indicative of singing ability, just views on that song. Since you seem to be a Nijifag, even Chima has music with <500k views after years. IRyS's karaoke is some of her best numbers content anyway.
>>25123035Now I know you’re saying bullshit, she’s got higher engagement than the luxiem boys. This is voxes in comparison https://twitter.com/vox_akuma/status/1530172302159126529?s=21https://twitter.com/vox_akuma/status/1530726372490063873?s=21
>>25122887Anon. You're not even smart enough to use karaoke numbers when the conversation was about karaoke numbers. If you're going to shitpost at least put some effort in.
>>25123101>even Chima has music with <500k views after years>comparing a literally who niji to the most pushed holosingerokay yeah totally comparable
>>25123124Guras latest tweetshttps://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1529880283629101056?s=21https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1530644482756067337?s=21The only thing gura has Salome completely beat on is fanart but I wonder how that’ll change within the month
>>25123020and it only affects Miko but not Solome?you could turn on the "Live chat" option when watching Solome and see how fast it goes
>>25123124Those are stream announcements, they always get lower engagement.https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1529033166215954433
>>25122999if that's all it takes, my poor BΣretta would have broken 100k on her recent 3d live
the number for this ass is zero
>>25123236ogeyhttps://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1528524440316874752Remember that Niji has a massive advantage on twitter so this is the equivilent to a 300k like Niji tweet.
>>25123213her usual karaoke number is about 16k right?pretty low for the best EN singer desu
>>25123124>>25123236There’s no use denying it, salomes engagement, given her follower count being lower than vox and guras is kinda crazy.Like holy shit, even kuzuha is getting btfo https://twitter.com/vamp_kuzu/status/1530743233860751360?s=21
>>25117644Summer is coming up and that's mean koushien. If they can maintain the momentum between two/connect those 2 momentum arc then it'll huge game changer for niji. Idk maybe some kind of mini tournament/event to fill the gap between 2, they're good on those kind of things right.
>>25123062twitter makes the topics, so they made one for nijisanji but not for hololive
GURA GONNA DO A POLL???
>>25123236>>25123354Stream announcements always get lower engagement, post real tweets you idiots.
>Using actual Hololive music>CPU vs CPUGura is finally figuring it out. The next stream should be really good if she continues.
>>25123220>most pushed holosingerthat has to be suisei or mori, not irys
FAKE BITCH DIE
1 to 1 engagement, wow!
Goombers poll
>>25123220>comparing a literally who nijiProbably the most pushed nijisinger.>to the most pushed holosingerThat's Suisei. fixed that post for you
Around 50% in a minute... not bad
>>25122830Doesn't look that abnormal. She's new and popular so engagement is still high. Honestly the comment numbers are lower than you'd expect from the likes/retweets.
16k/31k in 2mins
CULL COPE NIGGERS BTFO>CULL COPE NIGGERS BTFOCULL COPE NIGGERS BTFO>CULL COPE NIGGERS BTFOCULL COPE NIGGERS BTFO>CULL COPE NIGGERS BTFO
>>25123315not sexy. maybe if she could take off that top of those shorts, she should have gotten better numbers
Poll engagement after 3 minutes
>>25123220What a stupid post.
>>25123554Vtuber fans sure are dedicated, wonder about the final results from that poll of hers I voted KRONK
anyone have Miko's polls from her WWE?
20k in 5 minutes
>>25123335(You)
>>25123766WHAT? This stream has 100000000 actual viewersWhy aren't they voting?YOUTUBE CULLS GURA'S POLLS CONFIRMED
Chumpedos going to be coping harder than ever after this
20k in 5 minutes is nuts considering how many tourists are here right now honestly
>>25123766>>25123628>>25123870Botted
>Ame placed her chat on screen and I commented right after a guy joining her membership and I realized that my comment didn't appearAm I shadowbanned?
That was indeed very good and very entertaining Gura. Hololive music and CPU vs CPU. It took her nearly 4 hours but she figured out how these WWE streams work. I can't wait for the next one.
>>25124065It's less fucked then the ID polls and Mori polls we've seen, and way less fucked than the poll from that fashion collab with Ina and Kiara.
>>25118953its funny because miko follows the orange man
>>25124116Fauna joining and talking to her about this might've actually helped her do more than one.
>>25124077Yes.You can also test it by opening the same stream on Mobile+desktop and then commenting and seeing if your comment shows up (Live chat)
>>25124165Fauna the savior of HoloCouncil
>Superchat in the Gura stream>Special RefereeIRyS...
>>25124165Fauna is the only real tardwrangler in EN, Ame is too moody, Bae is too beta and in the wrong timezone. Hopefully she grows into that role and saves the branch.
>>25124133This is a massive tourist stream though. I swear you guys never understand the full picture, it feels maddening. You get high engagement on low viewership streams where its mostly your core culled audience
>>25124133Yea, but also consider that during the WWE stream there were 40k watching HoloEN across 3 streams, along with what, 3 JP streams on? Also holostats showing a ton of greys in the chat this stream so there’s probably a lot more of that casual type audience
>>25124378Note, I said LESS fucked.
>Ame with 6,5k viewers>Not even 1 min poll>3910 votesShe deleted it before I could take a sc
I can't believe all of you fags are watching Hololive play a WWE game. Wake me up when they play an AEW game you bunch of Stamford Wive Drones.
>>25124378context? sorry we don't do that here
>>25123730When you truly love someone it becomes sexy. To her gachikoi, that cute flat ass is divine.
>>25124426Yeah I guess I'm reacting more to the rest of the anons ITT going "see this is just your normal 70% engagement no culls here".
>>25123240It should affect everyone, but to what extent is unknown unless you know the criteria that YT uses when they decide what types of chats from what accounts to keep for the archived log. A theory that I have is that flagged users will definetly be more affected and not have their chats show up in the archived log, but I can only guess since I don't work at YT. As an example scrape I did a few months ago on MikeNeko's 3-14 stream:Archived scrape:16,034 messages, scrape starts at 2022-03-14 05:56:17 UTC, ends at 2022-03-14 07:38:33Live chat scrape:52,918 messages, scrape started LATE at 2022-03-14 06:41:54 UTC, ends at 2022-03-14 07:44:55As you can see, there is a massive difference in the message amount when comparing the two. Even starting my scrape script late, the actualy live chat shows a much bigger number of messages. Mikeneko's stream had 51k viewers, nowhere close to Miko or Salami. In otherwords, like the other anon says, Hololyzer chat data is not accurate. There is no fucking way Miko only had 17k and Salome 22k messages during their streams.
>>25124223Why tho? I have never said anything weird, disrespectful or spammed in any chat
>>25124447HOLY FUCKING BASED
>>25124540Blame YT on this one. I know I'm shadow'd on IRyS and Aqua, but I'm fine on everyone else I've checked.
She figured it out!! The next stream is going to be epic. Can't wait for the Gura/Miko mega WWE collab when it's all said and done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcCOwdn_-BwAnyone has heard of this game?
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>>25124447>AEWbaffling post
>>25124447>unironic AEW trannyKroniis need to be purged
>>25124821>A WWE drone in the wildpathetic
Salome mindbroke me, her numbers are too insane
HoloEN 42.5k total CCV. Highest in a while?
100% in about 20 minutes
>>25125056Bae is just getting eaten. Poor thing.
>>25125199What do the likes mean?
passed CCV at 19mins
Someone screenshot the ame poll.Now THAT is some nonsense (It's almost certainly because there are people watching both that stream and Gura and only counting for one)
Ame 7,9k CCV and 8,4k votes after 4 mins
Desuwa sub trackerhttps://github.com/smy20011/HyakumantenbaraTracking/tree/master/data
Fucking raid somebody Gura, fucking hell.
100% votes!!!
Views right at the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b59kreP24acretarded onion karaoke soon
>265,132 views before any extra processingfinally some fat fucking vods
That was a really fucking amazing stream by Gura. She seems super excited to do it again so that’s great. Also just in general that felt like a vintage 2021 Gura stream numbers wise. >Over 30k ccv>35k LIKES JESUS FUCK>Able to retain huge amounts of people and get it right back when action starts>Tons of hilarious moments
Holy fuck Ame just ROCKETED to 10k
>>25125314it's the viewer churn!!!!
>>25124447Is AEW game good compared to WWE?
Ame poll 7k in 1 min
Bae got fucking nothing in comparison, but Ame got a big funnel
Funnel
poll
>>2512543611k, the holobox is strong.Its why I'm not worried about Salome. Yeah she pulls some crazy numbers, but I don't care if people think its suspicious or not, numbers are numbers.However, when she ends, or when she starts, nobody's view count changes at all, so what does it matter?
>>25125529I mean, that's expected. Gura and Ame have way more overlap than Gura and Bae.
AME JUST GAINED 3k PEOPLE IN JUST A MINUTETHE BOX..
>>25125429Yeah, it started off a bit slow since she didn't know how to play the game, tried to control the character herself, and then went into the fucking tutorial. However, once she figured out how the WWE streams work with CPU vs. CPU it became fucking amazing. Can't wait for the next one.
>>25125490Is there even an AEW game?
>>25125558Yea, these are 'flagged' watchers, the ones that are in pretty much every HoloEN stream and get gigafucked by YT's shenanigans wrt CCV.
>>25123529Cover doesn’t push or put their budget on suisei/mori, they spent it on something useless like negi u, orio, azki, irys.
>>25125261kekjewtube hates hololive
Why
100% at about 4-5mins
Seems Uki raided Shu which makes for the boost he got. Already dropping though
>>25125623Imagine if Gura actually raided her like she should have.
Ame poll AFTER 4 MINUTES:11,5k CCV12k votesI give up, numbers are useless
lmao who cares about midget 30k salome is getting 100k again today holokeks
>>25125825They're not if you understand what's going on. Gura's poll was less fucked because JOP tourists. EOP fanbase is flagged, no fucking clue why Susan did it or why the algorithm hasn't unflagged the fuckers after 1 year.
>>25125824Nah, streams are too disparate. Doesn't make sense to raid (For HoloEN).
>>25125825
>>25125850
>>25125417What was Miko's at right after it ended?
>>25125824>Debuffson does her best to debuff her numbersDoubt you can even raid the bitch, but even if you can, it's the last thing she wants and sending 30k people to her stream would probably be something she's give Gura actual lip for
>>25124077Sometimes the chat messaged isnt in order. I thought I was shadowbanned at one point too, but my chat was there just like 8-9 chats later
>>25125850I can't wait for you fags to fuck off
>>25125385Miko got 275k at the end for an 80k ccv stream. This is about the same views. Fuck Susan so much
Can't tell if people shitposting against Miko are serious or not, but Gura has a 40 - 50k peak even with a full EN battle royal. Not only was she already coasting off Mikos momentum to begin with, but shes peaking way sooner because she has a timeslot to herself.
>>25126057Probably way higher. Cull or no cull Miko was pulling bigger numbers. Gura might be able to reach Miko's VOD but only with time and VOD watchers, not just processed shit.
>>25126069>doubt you can even raid the bitchyou can
>>25125933I know the reason and that's why I said that they are useless. It seems that only the hardcore fans aren't flagged but the "holobox enjoyers" that jump from one stream to another are, that's why they can't get big numbers in events anymore and it shows because debuff games get "normal" poll numbers but buff events like this or the Kiara and Ina outfit design get 100% participation in 2-3 mins
>>25126146Sure, more for curiosity's sake than anything
VC Update:18,454,970 day 1 (61,516)21,545,030 day 2 (71,816)21,196,400 day 3 (70,654) 21,383,630 day 4 (71,278) 21,923,390 day 5 (73,077)21,557,970 day 6 (71,859) 21,241,950 day 7 (70,806) 20,365,460 day 8 (67,884) 20,787,820 Day 9 (69,292)20,364,380 Day 10 (67,881) 19,891,020 Day 11 (66,303)19,014,790 Day 12 (63,382) Ongoing
>>25126188she only accept raids from 0-2views
>>25126128>shitposting against MikoWho's shitposting against Miko? I'm a chumbud and Miko's numbers were outta this world, shit not even unculled 2020 Gura could get. But it does bear to remind you folks that this was Gura's first stream so it has the first debuff, but the "Miko already proved this is super entertaining" buff. I agree that Gura's peak if she were to match Miko's arc 1:1 (which she won't) would probably be 50k. Maybe 60k just because of JOP tourists.
>>25114475this. Imagine if hololive used the chuuni racoon drill model instead of scrapping it like complete idiots
>Gura with an exciting high viewership hilarious gaming stream>Ame doing a creative streamThis feels like 2020/early 2021 HoloEN and I love it. Hopefully they keep this up.
This cull levels are depressing.
>>25114506I believe this rrat
Stream would've been much better if that green whore didn't join in and ruin it
HOLOEN INCLINE>HOLOEN INCLINEHOLOEN INCLINE>HOLOEN INCLINE
>>25126378Holy fuck, this is gonna be a FAT VOD
>>25126128the other way around surely, there is already 4threads on the catalog shitting on guras stream
>>25126336HoloEN was crashing up until April/May 2021 too, then they had a kino revival with Capcom perms and kept going strong all the way into winter.
>>25126424>Do actually interesting content>Actually get numbers
>>25126305Will WWE finally bring us the long awaited collab between Gura and Miko? Imagine the numbers.
>>25126462no different than usual then
>>25125850>he believes 30k is the real numberPolls are usually 20% of the real viewership you gigaretard
Subaru playing Tales of the Abyss getting better numbers than Aqua comeback karaoke? The decline.
>>25126336I wouldn't call this a win for Ame. If Kronii were doing the exact same thing it would have broken 20k easy.
>>25126424>Do giga buff content>Coasting off JP buffIf they can’t incline with that I would freak
>>25126485>miko controlling JP holos vs Gura controlling EN holos>they just make retarded noises and laugh ,no need for communicatingWould unironically be kino but autist shork would never initiate. Hopefully Miko does it for the numbers
>>25126404
Nice to see the shark get 100k True CCV again.
>>25125529Nothing to the JP girls either, though that was probably expected.>>25125620Yeah Gura only has some minimal overlap with Myth, but almost none elsewhere it seems.
>>25126378Easily 600k+ VOD
>>25121868Pretending to be a whore in JP is funny, pretending to be a whore in EN isn't.
>>25126574>noooo they're outperforming JP at the same game so I'll pretend they had a buff from JP so that JP doesn't seem uselesskek
>>25126614>Yeah Gura only has some minimal overlap with Myth, but almost none elsewhere it seems.Bzzt. Fucking wrong. She overlaps Mumei, Kronii and Fauna. It's just that Bae is everyone's 999th choice.
>>25126101Gura stream was nearly 4 hours, anon.
Bae REALLY needs to get something that's hers that attracts attention because holy shit she's only overlapped by one fucking person so what the hell
>>25121868EN unironically need their own hagsI think NijiEN has Nina as their hag
>>25126485imagine the engrishmight need a translator wrangler
>>25126711Stop deflecting Susanshill
>>25125529Gura mainly seems to funnel to Myth. Mori gets decent funnels from Gura ending too when she streams in this time slot.
Strong streams today, what's the total Hololive viewership at rn?
Gura got 100% engagement, but I think around 25% engagement is expected, so if we just multiply her CCV by 4 we would get the real number of viewers.
>>25126275Surprisingly still going strong. I wonder if other companies are watching that.
>>25126739>Bae REALLY needs to get something that's hersLiterally just fuck off to some Korean timeslot and get your shitty 5k there, rrat. Less overlap, more superchats, same numbers.
>>25126275Info from SensorTower.Jumped from rank 635 before Hololive collab to rank 275 for top grossing game in the android app store.
>>25126711>>25126101please stop comparing unprocessed VODs, the processing speed varies wildly
>>25126696Got funnel charts?
>>25126711
>>25126783shoo falseflagger
>>25126841We already know that JP vods process faster so Gura actually already beat Miko in terms of vods at least, not implying anything about CCV.
Good lord why are JOPs such nostalgia consoomers. Subaru pulls insane numbers on older JRPGs, I thought this was impossibru and JRPG was a huge debuff?
>>25126828Rankwise that's a significant improvement, but what sort of actual value would it be? Those are still fairly high ranks and I imagine there are a shit ton of games that make almost nothing at all.
>>25126869Less Funnel charts, there's a chat-overlap analysis.
>>25125429>She seems super excited to do it again so that’s great.When will she do it again? Next year?
>>25127029Because westerns don't play JRPG
>>25118855streaming is a hard job anon and girls are weak by nature, they get tired easily. Some of the JP ones are actually pushing themselves to the point their tiny asian body and mind break.
>Only the ENs are getting culled trust me dudeProve it. Faggots,. Tired of this excuse.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/mlLSrve3nB8https://holo.poi.cat/stream/c23uYJ-gQKwVod copers yoroshiku
>>25127067NTA but this is actually a high chance for Gura to do again since she does have fun with creating holos. Not 100% but I can see it.
>>25126758>>25126899Where do you retards even come from?>>25127029They usually are a debuff.
>>25127029Westerners fucking hate watching JRPGs.
This is Gura's first 30k+ stream since her karaoke at the start of april (the one that got destroyed by sushi)
Ayame ReturnsAqua ReturnsNow Marine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mEJh8DBgTE
>>25127132there is enough circumstantial evidence to prove that something is wrong atleast, i'm not gunna claim any hard numbers though. if you want to bury your head in the sand then go ahead
>>25126869Gura's funnel mostly went to Ame at the moment, if she ended later maybe we can see how it effects Subaru and Aqua to see how many JP tourists.
>>25125529Not that surprising. She started the stream off with her high pitch voice changer, no vtuber model, covering the screen every time she begins/ends a match, and also she's not good at apex to begin with and people are aware of this. Had she not debuffed herself so hard in the beginning, her numbers would still be low but better nonetheless.
>>25127210Shame she's not gonna do a monthly Karaoke in what's left of May. Would have given her median this month a turbo boost.
>>25127240Salome will get more viewers than all of them combined kek, Hololive is finished
>already $3k on Mori's member unarchived karaokeMyth doing so many member streams really hides their real SC amounts
>>25127282Basically nothing to Koyori or Noel...
I feel stupid for blaming fujos. This guy spamming about Salome on cooldown is literally the exact retard who was doing the same with Vox, I can tell
>>25127240Theyre panicking desuwa
>>25127410Consider what happened to poor Orca and the public lashing the dude got for being Rushia's biggest paypig, I really don't blame any whales for minimizing their public SCs.
>>25122222Nijisanji is a tumor to the vtubing community. The sooner they are gone, the better.
>>25127470It's always been, the only real fujo was the "holonigger" spammer, all the other schizos are literally the same 3 people using whatever they have to flood this thread samefagging and falseflagging
How did Bae go from Gura killer to "hope she gets a funnel or else she's pulling NijiEN female numbers"?
>>25127282>>25127440hmm i thought there are many jop tourist that caused gura to have normal poll numbers
>>25127470it's always the same 2-3 retards, they just change toys accordingly
>>25122222kek bad losers. just accept that you will never be at the top again now that Salome is here
>>25127132>>25127255No, everyone is getting culled, just on different rates. Even Vox with his relatively new audience got culled (he said that his collab with Mysta peaked at 29-30k in his Youtube Analytics page, while Vrabi only recorded a peak slightly higher 27k, that makes it roughly a 10% cull rate).The question is just whether those with heavy EN audience (i.e: HoloEN, NIjiEN Female) are culled with significantly higher rates. The pools and views seem to support that theory. But hey, everyone - including even le reddit - who pays attention to numbers already know this, so why am I even repeating it?
>>25127660>normal poll numbersthe poll numbers were not normal at all, they just weren't as fucked as some we have seen
>>25127167/vt/
>>25127029I think it should already be obvious by how Pekora DQ series get 3x VOD view compare to her other streams
>>25127660There were, not funneling into 2 other JPs is not proof against it. You just need to watch the chat, there were a lot of them. Including some actual dudes with 35p in their name kek
>>25127612She just literally is not entertaining. Most of her Febraerary shit was buff stuff, collabs, or literally both. Now that she has to do stuff properly solo she just cannot retain them because people just aren't as interested in her and pretty much only go to her for Minecraft (just in case someone they like joins) or if there's literally no one else on.
>>25127470all of salami's vod crossed 1m btw :3
IPO scam?IPO scam
>Gura already at 329k views>It’s only been 30 minutes
btw, I've realised that A lot of JP members took advantage of the "porn spammers" to leave the subs only chat with 1 min
>>25127410This is interesting. I was a bit surprised to see gura's fans were dumping a bunch of akasupas in her member streams too, much more than public ones.
This is getting tiring. What the fuck is this guy goal? Yeah Salome get big number we know it already, all of the 117 posters here know it
>>25128039attention
>>25127915
>>25127915Million-view VOD in the long term.
>>25127995could be applied to anyone
>>25128039>117
>>25127915Lol so it is not a Miko only thing thenWatch as Pekora jump on it as well but by the time she come back it would already be too late
>>25128077How do we save Nijishitty?