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>> No.25097710
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.25097779

WTF; is the catalog this fast? Threads are surely archiving fast

>> No.25097782
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>113,034: Salome (Nijisanji)
>111,498: Miko (Hololive)
>93,376: Salome (Nijisanji)
>38,618: Ayame (Hololive)
>36,985: Toya (Nijisanji)
>30,432: Ui (Indie)
>24,260: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,805: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,403: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,558: Miko (Hololive)
>18,466: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>16,403: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,852: Lamy (Hololive)
>14,721: Luna (Hololive)
>14,540: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,079: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,743: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>13,676: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,131: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,056: Watame (Hololive)
>11,876: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>11,763: Polka (Hololive)
>11,730: Bae (Hololive)
>11,598: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,513: Ike (Nijisanji)
>11,255: Ame (Hololive)
>11,170: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,033: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,583: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,348: Shu (Nijisanji)

>> No.25097783

I saw some anons citing roboco merch sales a few threads ago. Is there a new way merch anon is figuring this out but keeping it under wraps this time or where is that coming from

>> No.25097803

>>25097427
they dont need to since there is no big audience overlap and I honestly think that some of the older talents should take it easy since we dont want another pekora/marine situation
EN on the other hand might need a koyori for consistency and a mio to organize

>> No.25097834

>>25097783
Roboco birthday merch was a limited run with a disclosed iniital stock

>> No.25097836
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>>25097782
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal
27) Miko (Hololive) - 110,076 - WWE 2K22 collab
28) Salome (Nijisanji) - 113,034 - Resident Evil 7

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Miko
3x: Salome
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Axia, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>> No.25097850

>>25097783
im guessing they are just multiplying the number of limited merch and the price of each merch since it sold out

>> No.25097856

>>25097834
Oh alright makes sense

>> No.25097862

>>25097427
>Competition is good and all but how can current Hololive compete with this?
I don't think they can. Salome brought with her around 90k new live viewers/tourists that don't usually watch vtubers, or they only watch niji big events.
>EN3
The market is already over saturated with multiple EN vtubing companies, getting 90k new live viewers from there would be really hard
>JP7
HoloX debuted 6 months ago, JP7 would debut in 4-5 months at least
The only way I see cover being able to compete as a company would be holosummer attracting a new batch of viewers, or StarsEN become a successful hit (really hard)

>> No.25097887

>>25097427
>how can current Hololive compete with this?
For the moment they can't and don't need to. HoloJP, at very least, is riding the biggest incline wave of their recent history.

If I were Tanigo I would focus 100% on HoloEN and get them
> permissions
and
> safe passage to Japan for their 3D
ASAP, along with speeding up a flawless HoloEN gen 3 debut

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>>25097836
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
102x: Hololive
37x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Salome
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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Cover already has the girls for EN3 and they're currently being corrupted by their seniors (Council + Mori) to take it easy. You just know it.

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>> No.25097987

>>25097862
>StarsEN become a successful hit
I wonder if they should do a isekai themed gen since for the males since clearly trope characters have pull as weve seen with salome

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jesas
what do we do from now on?

>> No.25098036

>>25097955
Rosemi already at supachas?

>> No.25098039

Gura’s WWE stream doko? Is she gonna puss out and not even do it?

>> No.25098051

>>25097783
Limited stock is easy to track. Its the standard merch that has no data. Roboco made around $200k in limited merch sales but pribably even more if you include the standard merch

>> No.25098063

>>25097955
>Ars, Kaela and Chihiro
based

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matofags are giving up lmao

>> No.25098095

>>25097427
The simple fact is they don't have to compete. One name does not a brand make. Obviously she's absolutely crushing it, but they have a tiny handful of talents that approach anything resembling consistent good numbers.
Holives biggest strength is that they always lift each other up, the box as it were. This is why people like Aki and Mel are always getting screentime and sponsorships right along with fubuki, subaru, etc.
They have completely different focuses and pointing at big numbers is fine and dandy, but the companies ultimately have different directions for what they want to do.

>> No.25098117

>>25097444
so long as sana isn't losing them money there's no reason to fire her, that goes for all their talents. they should make the contracts more rigid however, EN is a bunch of slackers

>> No.25098124

>>25097955
Covid only 4k with Vox on his channel? Is he reading SCs?

>> No.25098135

Kiara's numbers are tragedies. This month she's had very few collabs to boost her up, right? What is her median?

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>>25097995
We kneel… or off ourselves
New king in town and 90% of her fans weren’t even vtuber fans 2 weeks ago.

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>> No.25098169

What's with the rrats about Salome's roommate being a pro VA?

>> No.25098177

>>25098159
>1:29h
what did they mean by this?

>> No.25098204

>>25098095
Do people even watch the other Niji streams after hers ends or do 95% of them fuck off? Assuming those are actual people watching her and not anything else, it doesn't help them too much if those people won't branch out.

>> No.25098231

>>25098135
So far, 6873, ahead of Calli and Bae

>> No.25098238

>>25098169
rrats cause some people think she sound similar or is too good to be a nobody while some are thinking it might be to boost the ipo thingy

>> No.25098267

>>25098204
More than 95% fuck off. Concurrent Niji streams get a total boost of like +3k. At least previously, I haven't looked at the last few days.

>> No.25098304

>>25097987
>I wonder if they should do a isekai themed gen since for the males since clearly trope characters have pull as weve seen with salome
Isekai fantasy nobility characters (prince, duke, marquis) forming a boyband to live on Earth could work

>> No.25098309

>>25098135
With upcoming dokomi in Germany she could try to cater to some German speaking viewers but she hates her origin so hard she wanted to become Japanese. Maybe it is also Hololive prohibitting her doing a German stream.

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>>25097995
Invest in Anycolor's IPO of course!

>> No.25098319

>>25098204
there was a 1-2% boost at best to the current streaming nijis when she ended her stream

>> No.25098320

>>25097427
Treating the vtuber space as a zero-sum game is extremely retarded, there's orders of magnitude more people in the
>potential viewer who does not watch vtubers yet
category than there are people watching either company (and it's this group that the NijiEN males and Salome seem to have tapped into)

>> No.25098322

>>25098169
just an explanation for how she's so good seemingly coming out of nowhere. not the actual case given what people have found out, but she's a cut above every other niji female for sure

>> No.25098379

>>25097995
Vtubing going full mainstream. Normal top youtubers usually get millions of vod views, while top vtubers are stuck with 300k for their normal streams. This needs to change

>> No.25098427

>>25098169
the funny thing about this rrat is that the original Desuwa's roommate is a professional seiyuu.

>> No.25098431

>>25098379
that's fine and all, but at the end of the day vtubers is still anime

>> No.25098444

>>25098320
I'll grant you this: it is not impossible that Salome existence is boosting Miko high nuimbers, and Miko WWE is boosting Salome numbers, both feeding each other a HUGE number of unaffiliated tourists

>> No.25098482

>>25098427
Really? Does she still do VA work?

>> No.25098488

>>25098309
People kept begging Kiara to stream in German (mostly people who don't even speak German and just like to hear it). She put a bunch of effort into the German Fairytales video, including subtitles, and literally no one watched it. Even today it only has 122k views. I don't think she'll ever do anything standalone in German again, only "teaching streams" or talking with people that only speak German like at cons.

>> No.25098490

>>25097987
>I wonder if they should do a isekai themed gen
Nijimales already have plenty of that, lmao

>> No.25098503

>>25098081
what website is this?

>> No.25098527

>>25098427
>original Desuwa'
the original before they chose this one or are you talking about another chuuba that also does desu wa

>> No.25098539

>>25098431
If the anime man can get millions in vod views, then there's still a lot of ground to cover

>> No.25098540

>>25098503
Matome

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>>25098379
>Vtubing going full mainstream
Will never happen. 2020 was closest we have been to mainstream with Hololive flooding r/all and twitter. It's only decline from here.

>> No.25098575

>>25098540
which one specifically? got a link?

>> No.25098600

>>25098490
>Nijimales already have plenty of that, lmao
luxiem? didnt realize they were isekai themed
>>25098304
I was thinking more of like that isekai quartet show but that could also work

>> No.25098664

>>25098575
Matome comment section is not a lot different from 4chan threads: they may archive but there i no point in linking a past one as they cycle very 30 min to 1 hour

>> No.25098718

>>25098117
>they should make the contracts more rigid however
They should at least have a non-compete clause if you don't meet the minimum of 3 streams a week. Using back hort as an excuse and then streaming on another account is stupid.

>> No.25098758

>>25098718
luv genshin. pls anderstan

>> No.25098787

>>25098664
ok? so whats the website in general?

>> No.25098810

>>25098758
wonder of by some miracle cover does get the genshin permision would that sana stream more?

>> No.25098816

Do Holo now have Tales of Series perms or Bandai Namco perms since Subaru will be playing Tales of the Abyss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxvhJW1Cf8

>> No.25098854

>>25098527
Hirasaka Mei, another chuuba that does desu wa, became quite popular between EOPs after showing up in a collab Haachama did where, as well as some spic pandering she did later.

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EN vtubers on suicide watch

>> No.25098885

>>25098816
They had that for a while now

>> No.25098918

>>25098482
She links her roommates twitter in her profile and she recently voiced a character in the rockman x mobile game

>> No.25098934

>>25098787
http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/

>> No.25098959

>>25098600
Luxiem are from the past and Noctyx are from the future

>> No.25098969

>>25098885
Do you know if they still have permission for metal slug? I honestly wanna see more chuubas play that game

>> No.25098970

>>25098320
>Salome seem to have tapped into
yeah sure

>> No.25098976

>>25098539
anime man isn't actual anime

>> No.25099036

>>25098816
more importantly, they were confirmed to have received atlus permissions, for P4, at the very least

>> No.25099053

>>25098959
What the fuck is Ike supposed to be? And how is Mysta "from the past"?

>> No.25099065

>>25099036
>for p4
No, Kiara mentioned it's all Atlus games. She wants to play Catherine iirc

>> No.25099074

>>25098970
People posted the numbers anon, nobody loses a substantial number of viewers when she starts and nobody gains a substantial number of viewers when she finishes

>> No.25099092

>>25098959
so theyre time travelers i mean technically it is still isekai but im wondering if the generic mc protag isekai would click since for some reason a lot of people like them

>> No.25099151

>>25099074
I am implying foul play

>> No.25099153

Kobronies and their constant koboner over her numbers caused you fags to become kobroken.

time to accept it, salome is the new queen of vtubing koblokes.

am I doing it right?

>> No.25099175

>>25099053
Novelist, idk Vox is the only one who actually pretends to be from the era he's from

>> No.25099185

>>25098482
>>25098918
She also voices a character on the new 22/7 mobage. her biggest role so far was voicing one of the main female cast from the Cardfight Vanguard anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x76RpPCvIxk

>> No.25099274
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In other news, Ina's Nai Nai cover seems to be fast approching the mil. In how long do you think it will make it ?

>> No.25099298

Why is Kobo cuter than rest shark

>> No.25099301

>>25097862
Yet holoEN still has a lot of dead hours..desperately need at least 1 EN koyori for midnight stream
>starsEN
Need EN Kuzuha for sure, and at least 1 BFE chuuba

>> No.25099311

>>25099274
Unfortunately it won't beat Violet but it will easily beat her previous solo cover.

>> No.25099340

>>25099151
But its irrelevant. If its botted, they are propping up a single chuuba, which in terms of the company means very little.
And if it isn't, and its just tapping into an unknown demographic or market, then again, it doesn't matter, whoever these viewers are demonstrably don't care about any of the other talents, nor do they come from them.

>> No.25099367

>>25097995
You kneel. Feels good to be a nijisanji fan.

>> No.25099374

>>25099151
well your implication has zero value without numbers.

>> No.25099391

I've seen anons say that most of Salome's viewers are new to chuubas. I'm not doubting it since a group like Luxiem brought in girls that have never watched a vtuber before, but I want to know where is the evidence of that just out of curiosity.

>> No.25099400

>>25097995
watch over the new shining star and savior of our thread.

>> No.25099437

>>25099340
>it doesn't matter, whoever these viewers are demonstrably don't care about any of the other talents, nor do they come from them.
Isnt that the their koshe\ien audience then? since i remember some anon saying that majority of their koshien viewers are tourists

>> No.25099450

>Kiara released a song 5 hours ago
>is now doing a stream, 5 hours after the release.
I didn't realised, but it would of been interesting to keep track of the growth so we could of seen whether streaming has an affect on the growth of songs.

>> No.25099481

>>25099151
>graph normal
>VOD views normal

>the numbers are still bullshit because i say so

>> No.25099488

>>25099274
It'll probably be another 2-3 days. I'm guessing an 11 day to 1M total. Which is pretty good.
To men, Ina has some of the most weird numbers, in a way. Her consistency is absolutely unparalleled.
The only 2 series that did less than what would normally be expected were rice game and W101

>> No.25099554

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuu0qmldyMw
Zeta could be interesting, decent time for NA with likely no overlap.

>> No.25099558

>>25098863
go penguin go

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cripple gold was so weak yesterday
fuck, kobo could mog them easily

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>>25097782
oh my lord, migo actually slipped a 3D live+outfit to the Desuwa jesus, the fucking vod is already at 830k+. What is this fucking creature

>> No.25099577

Can another tier of medal be made? Someone joked about the "platinum medal" but I think it wouldn't be that crazy now. Salome alone can bring 100kccv on a NORMAL gaming stream. That's literally impossible for any vtuber to surpass unless it's a big event, and even then, it can slip as proven today.
I propose that if you have more than 100kccv, your gold medal becomes a platinum medal instead, so the gold medal can be competitive. Of course, the platinum medals would only happen every once in a while.

>> No.25099584

>>25099566
the holokiller

>> No.25099597

>>25099391
im inclined to believe that its their koshien audience checking out the new chuuba due to curiosity

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>>25099450
It was around 55-60k before she started and now is at 75k.

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>>25099391

>> No.25099611

>>25099488
Ender Lolies

>> No.25099622

>>25099577
We are also at the end of May. Maybe it can start in June or something.

>> No.25099638

>>25099608
based

>> No.25099643

>>25099611
Oh right. Seeing as that came pretty soon after Hollow Knight, I completely put it out of my mind.

>> No.25099646

>>25099554
I'll go big and say 6k. As long as Ame doesn't randomly stream in that spot.

>> No.25099689

>>25099608
You knows someone of them are baits post right? We aren't the only ones who have them only

>> No.25099695

>>25099577
Salome isn't going to get 100k for the rest of her career. If it's real it will gradually fall off to a normal number, if it's not they won't keep spending that much to prop her up indefinitely.

>> No.25099900

Oh, I forgot Suou Sango was trending on national TV a week ago because she saved a theme park by word of mouth, maybe this contributed to why normalfags are looking at nijisanji, it's a perfect timing

>> No.25099908

THE FIRST VTUBER TO REACH ONE SALOMILLION SUBSCRIBERS IN RECORD TIME.

TRUE KINP BEING BORN TODAY

SALOME SWEEP

>> No.25099940

IT'S HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c23uYJ-gQKw

>> No.25099966

>>25099695
>Salome isn't going to get 100k for the rest of her career.
We don't fucking know, the platinum medal can be made anyway for any 100kccv stream. CCV is even more useless now. It's like when Gura came and made subs useless, but now with ccv.

>> No.25099971

>>25099900
people kept on saying that nijisanji is mainstream tier but holofags kept saying it was a cope or someshit

>> No.25100023

>>25099940
5 morbillion ccv easy

>> No.25100030

>>25099908
Doesn't seems like it, unless you have EOP fanbase like holo, the ceiling of japanese vtubers is around 1mil as Kuzuha and Kanae

>> No.25100071

>>25099940
20k? 25k? Will Bae come out of her break so she can schedule a zatsu at the same time?

>> No.25100082

>>25099940
>barely 4 hours to build up hype and no schedule
why is she like this
20k if she's lucky

>> No.25100111

>>25100030
SORRY BUT THIS SALAMI SANDWICH DOESNT WANT TO HEAR LIES.

THE TRUTH IS THAT SALOME REACHED 500K THE FASTEST OUT OF ANY VTUBER.

THE SALOME SWEEP HAS NO BREAK BROS

>> No.25100149

>>25099695
>will gradually fall off to a normal number
not until IPO ends wink wink

>> No.25100154

>>25100071
Ame will overlap her with minecraft since she's unsatisfied with debuffing only her own numbers
Seriously fuck you Ame Miku was probably the one stream Gura would have wanted good numbers for so she can get collabs with Miku

>> No.25100169

>>25100111
oh, you're the falseflag schizo huh? nevermind

>> No.25100173

>>25099971
People have always said Niji for more for normies, just streamers with avatars. It's debatable which brand is more "'well known'" at this point, but there's no question which demographics are drawn to each.

>> No.25100223

>>25100149
but what happens if it doesnt

>> No.25100226

>>25099940
Won't beat 25k, for a simple reason
>she won't put the work into creating the characters

>> No.25100235

>>25100154
Miku isn't real anon

>> No.25100255

>>25100169
Retard, he's shitposting

>> No.25100274

>>25100169
SAY IT WITH ME, ONE SALOMILLION SUBSCRIBERS!!!

im fucking with you anon but its true that salome has reached 500k the fastest

>> No.25100298

>>25100226
Ina secretly created all the characters offscreen. That's why she took her break.

>> No.25100341

>>25100223
niji won't be demanded by scam
it's a win win to Riko

>> No.25100346

>>25099940
wont break 25k

>> No.25100350

>>25099940
Is that Kronii on the thumbnail ? It's a collab ?

>> No.25100386

>>25100235
She is to Gura ;-;

>> No.25100389

>>25100154
Joke is on Gura, Sora is Miku's oshi confirmed! Even was at Mikuland and collabed with her!

>> No.25100394

>>25100350
it's unclear https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1530644482756067337
she might mean she's making herself and kronii, or it is an actual collab

>> No.25100409

>>25100298
Thats a debuff though
Half of the fun was creating characters

>> No.25100463

>>25098969
>Do you know if they still have permission for metal slug?
90% if the time they play the phone gacha game instead

>> No.25100485

>>25099940
welp this thread is going to be even more awful than your average gura stream

>> No.25100513

>>25100274
With the sub cull gone she'll almost certainly lose the record, probably to a predebut EN3 or JP7.

>> No.25100596

>>25100463
Metal Slug Attack? I used to love that game
Who was playing it and what stream?

>> No.25100649

NEW META ----------> https://youtu.be/JQnxefImhu8
https://youtu.be/JQnxefImhu8
https://youtu.be/JQnxefImhu8

>> No.25100701

>>25100350
I don't think its a collab. She said she wanted to make Kronii when she first spoke of WWE.

>> No.25100704

>>25099391
Me

>> No.25100709

>>25100513
I wonder if its actually gone or if its a temporary thing since susan is fixing a lot of the bugs that arose from the last time she tried to fix youtube

>> No.25100714

Predictions on Gura WWE arc peak? Not this stream, maybe when she finishes making them all having them all fight.

>> No.25100737

>>25100649
>semi aquatic mammals meta
nene time to shine

>> No.25100755

>>25100649
NOOOOO! THIS FUCKING SEA OTTER IS ALWAYS IN MY RECOMMENDS!

>> No.25100759

>>25100714
25-30k? and thats being generous
would also depend on how she's gonna interact with the audience

>> No.25100763

>>25097782
HoloEN status?

>> No.25100782

>>25100649
ToT

>> No.25100792

>>25100763
?

>> No.25100813

>>25100714
>arc
I'm a chumbuddy and I lmaoed pretty hard at the idea of there being a whole arc with all the flash and pomp Miko put into it. Goob ain't gonna do it

>> No.25100832

>>25098095
>Holives biggest strength is that they always lift each other up, the box as it were. This is why people like Aki and Mel are always getting screentime and sponsorships right along with fubuki, subaru, etc.

Sponsorships sure, but certainly not equal opportunity on merch, been over a year and still no visual preview of Mel nor Aki Nendos announced prior to From1st

>> No.25100893

>>25100649
>1.5k
pathetic eagle is where its at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4-L2nfGcuE

>> No.25100925

>>25100596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdqjRS2uFec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk6LDY6QI9w
and i think Luna did as well but i can't find the stream right now

>> No.25101001

will Gura wrestling be able to beat Salome?

>> No.25101054

.

>> No.25101056

>>25097782
Salomebox is too strong its over bros… holobox cant best her. Nijibox cant beat her. Wont be surprise if she mogs nijipex too

>> No.25101061

>>25099940
I doubt this even gets 20k.

>> No.25101136

>>25099940
Also she calling out the power of blue women with a tweet
Let’s see what 2 blue women of EN can do

>> No.25101238

The real question is: Should Gura stream her birthday in JP prime time? I think the NA Holobox to way lower than people think, streaming during NA hours basically kills all the viewership from the rest of the world and I unironically believe that she won't beat Calli's BD if she streams during NA time

>> No.25101268

>>25099940
Regular Gura stream, nobody cares.

>> No.25101279
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I HATE THIS BITCH SO MUCH YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE

>> No.25101299

>>25100925
Im surprised snk is still funding that game since there were rumors back in 18 that they were pulling the plug which is why i quit also
>using the suicide tank instead of the auto refresh powerup
also thanks for the link anon will watch them later

>> No.25101329

It's far away, but I wonder if Chloe will do something on Orca Day (July 14th).

>> No.25101351

>>25101001
Doubtful, Gura at this point is like Mickey Mantle 1965; impressive visually and name recognition but putting out only slightly above average numbers far below their heyday.

>> No.25101368

>>25101238
It doesn't matter, her birthday stream won't beat any JP birthday numbers, no matter when she streams it.

>> No.25101399

>>25101329
you think she cares enough to know?

>> No.25101411

>>25101238
Depends on what she plans to do but its highly doubtful she can get jp numbers

>> No.25101419

>>25101001
Is this a serious question?

>> No.25101418

Never seen a more botted vtuber than Salami

>> No.25101425 [DELETED] 

So rpr is having Vtuber his debut 4 hours from now what kind of numbers could we expect from it

>> No.25101456

>>25101001
No, don't be ridiculous, there aren't even 100k vtuber watchers in NA

>> No.25101455

>>25101425
depends
whats his regular non vtuber numbers?

>> No.25101487

So rpr is having his Vtuber debut in 4 hours from now what kind of numbers could we expect from it

>> No.25101513

>>25101487
depends
whats his regular non vtuber numbers?

>> No.25101554

>>25100709
Seems like it's just gone. Remember it was never a thing until Lazulight's debut.

>> No.25101593

>>25101513
like 1k

>> No.25101623

>>25101238
No, her fans want to watch her birthday, it would be stupid to put it in the morning and make everyone who actually watches her have to watch the VOD.

>> No.25101821

>>25101487
Why? Isn't that like, not a very good time for Indonesia?

>> No.25101870

>numberfags will defend this: >>25101433

>> No.25101960

>>25100649
I laughed. Kys

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>>25100813
This
I'm not sure why people expect it to be like Miko's stream
This will just be a 1v1 between Gura and Kronii with meme characters and that's it

>> No.25102178

>>25101960
>he doesn't like sea otters

>> No.25102191

>>25099940
Miko said in her membership stream that most of the viewers during her WWE2K streams are japanese so foreigners vtuber fans aren't that interest in the game

>> No.25102309

>>25102191
Most of the viewers of any Holo JP stream are Japanese, that doesn't really mean anything.

>> No.25102313

Yes yes well done EOP fags well done you think you're getting good numbers, however you haven't considered the following:
>1 hour tech issues delay
>multi POV with Kronii streaming her POV too for some reason
>Ame overlap
>Bae coming back to read superchats

>> No.25102355

>>25102313
>EN
>Good numbers
lmao

>> No.25102390

>>25102309
It was compared to her usual streams if that wasn't obvious enough

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>25101870
>>25101524
>They shouldn't go, there should be a rule for this board that states that numberfagging outside that thread is bannable.
I actually agree with this. People are getting too chummy talking about numbers where it have no place to be.

>> No.25102488

>>25102429
oh, rule
just like reddit

>> No.25102596

>>25102488
downvoted

>> No.25102617
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>>25102488
oh, rules
just like 4chan
It's always the fucking idiots like you that forget 4chan isn't some lawless place and actually have shit that can get you banned.

>> No.25102639

>>25100714
It's gonna be a one off stream with maybe above 20k CCV. Get this notion of "arc" out of your head.

>> No.25102669

>>25102429
No numberfagging outside /#/.
30 minutes cooldown before posting a thread again.

>> No.25102681

>>25102429
the spammers that flood this thread and catalog are not people

>> No.25102701

Is Gura inviting Kronii to the stream? I took a second look at the thumbnail and Kronii is in.

>> No.25102724

>>25102313
>you think you're getting good numbers
Nobody thinks that, not even shitposters who pretend to hype it.

>> No.25102738

>>25102617
90% of posters on 4chan don't remember the vid of moot telling tard that they are the cancer ruining this site

>> No.25102761

>>25102617
It might be that retard a couple of weeks back that wanted 4chan to have usernames

>> No.25102818

>>25102701
I think she's just gonna make Kronii in the game

>> No.25102840

>>25102738
thats funny seeing how he was the one who accelerated the cancer of the site by hiring literal reddit mods who were friends with his "gf"

>> No.25102861
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25102861

>TOWAFAGS WILL DEFEND THIS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivrlKeQSEM

1M views, for the glory of Constantinople!

>> No.25102917

>>25097782
jesus Salome managed to beat Miko? how in the fuck

>> No.25103058

>>25101554
Pretty sure it was a thing since forever, just not this aggressive.

>> No.25103077

>>25102429
Number talking is fine as long as you're not being a massive fag about it. The problem is the thread got a massive influx of people after Luxiem that got tired of people ignoring their usual bait of calling people whores. They larp as both sides, dump in this thread and take it elsewhere. If it wasn't this it'd be something else.

>> No.25103127

>>25103058
I don't mean minor culls I mean the "I'll hide 30% of your visible 1st week subs forever, fuck you lol" kind.

>> No.25103172

>>25102191
it's not surprising. wwe AI tournaments are a novelty over there while they've been on the EN side for a while. Also she streams at shit times for the burgers and the streams themselves are even more eop unfriendly than normal.

>> No.25103230

>>25100832
I'm not sure how much of that would be on Cover though

>> No.25103252

it's bots I just know I can smell the bots it's impossible for there to be any other explanation I've seen enough I know it's bots there's nothing you can do to change my mind I mean really it just doesn't make sense there's no way that this could happen it's just not possible the numbers aren't real it's fake it has to be fake I refuse to believe that it's genuine that would simply be impossible you can't seriously expect me to believe that kek it's so obvious that it's bots it's all because of the IPO it's a fake scheme it's clear as day I've never seen such an obvious case of botting there's never been so many bots there's literally no other explanation

>> No.25103329

>>25102917
Honestly the Niji side of things doesn't really have a lot of strong talents on the female side right now. The oddness of her debut turned into something with the interest of a full niji-event and since she didn't have anyone else sharing the debut light people stacked in there and algos did the rest. She's not really any more interesting than most streamers you'll find in Niji or Holo, but she's got a lot of inertia right now.

>> No.25103368

>>25103230
Didn't some talent say that for merch you actually have to push management if you really want a specific one? or something along those lines

>> No.25103423
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>>25103252
Meds

>> No.25103461

>>25102761
But you CAN have a username on 4chan, you'll just get called a faggot.

>> No.25103495

>>25102191
>>25102309
>>25102390
Gura has 2k waiting for her 3 hours away from stream. I don’t think there’s any worry about how many viewers she’s gonna get. Anyone with a brain already has grounded expectations (25-30k) and anyone believing it’s gonna be 40k+ has severe brainrot

>> No.25103572

>>25103495
gura would need to make this an arc when in reality all i can see is her doing one, maybe two streams of it

>> No.25103592

>>25103461
he was talking about forum tier username and password also something about linking your insta/fb/twitter account to 4chan to prevent shitposting
guy was retarded

>> No.25103657

>>25103252
>>25103077

>> No.25103755

NEW META???????????????? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUWs7-C2MQ

>> No.25103790

>>25097427
As other pointed out, Salome viewers are not funneling into other Nijis. This means that her public is a bit like Gura's: mostly new to vtubers.
Hololive shouldn't worry, because everyone here should know by now what happens to new vtuber fans when they discover hololive.

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>>25103790
Soon.

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>>25103329
I think it definitely helps that she's Good.
By that i mean, good enough that she's not getting a huge wave of "doesn't deserve the numbers" backlash on Twitter or her YT comments.

>> No.25104056

>>25103790
>mostly Gura
You know some chumbuds also wach Ina, bae, mumei, fauna, kronii, iris and waston. And like the last MC Ame stream got to 8k to 13k. So don't pretend something like 1%-2%. We watch others and even holoJP OK!!!

>> No.25104170

>>25104056
I guess that anon is pointing out like the first 2 months of Gura. She's like completely outside of Hololive.

>> No.25104217

>>25103329
>She's not really any more interesting than most streamers you'll find in Niji or Holo
t. EOP

>> No.25104283

>>25104170
(me)
And I remember some anon still has that screenshot of Gura playing a horror game overlapping the Sportfes and her ccv is still high as fuck, with no negative impact on the JP side.

>> No.25104306

>>25103329
she's the second coming of mito or if mito debuted in 2022 instead of 2018

>> No.25104397

>>25104038
Yeah I don't disagree with that. It's just a real boon to have an odd situation and the stage for yourself. It'd be interesting to see how HoloJP would do if they released a solo member like EN did with IRyS. The HoloX debut numbers were absolutely wild for a group.

>> No.25104406

>>25104283
But gura always stream at the same hour. sportfes streama few hours later

>> No.25104460

>The EOP larper is back

>> No.25104476

>>25104460
where?

>> No.25104510

one thing that we can't figure out is the worm curves that only happen in nijisanji tho. First Luxiem now Salome.

>> No.25104525

>>25103755
>7.65 million subscribers
>25k CCV
RATIO

>> No.25104532

Salami should be removed for obvious bots

>> No.25104555

I used to defend Sana, because I understand back injuries are a bitch, but knowing she'd casually streaming outside of stuff she was actually hired for while also simultaneously not streaming as Sana for days on end is actually infuriating. It's been what, 2 days since her last stream, 6 days before that, then 10 days before that? Like why the fuck is she in Holo

>> No.25104582

30k max for gura

>> No.25104589

>>25104555
GPTchama...

>> No.25104591

>>25104306
Good analog, at some point, Mito had 45k stream when 5-7k was the top of the day

>> No.25104628

>>25104476
>25104217
>25104306
Need to kiss the ojou's feet or you're a dirty EOP whore.

>> No.25104642

>>25104582
That'd still be cripple gold.

>> No.25104646

>>25104582
as long ame don't appear like suddenly MC at the same hour probably more.

>> No.25104676

>>25104555
Are you having a stroke?

>> No.25104679

>>25104642
shoo

>> No.25104767

>>25104676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeNmilrBvo4

This isn't fair to anyone else in EN. Even when Mori did this shit she was regularly streaming as Mori

>> No.25104768

>>25104628
so he still didn't banned yet. I supposed hearing about gura stream today is making wake up again from his shitty hole just to bark again.

>> No.25104788

>>25104628
But Salome is a countryside pumpkin that is larping as ojou. She won't let you lick her feet. So why live?

>> No.25104791

Predictions on Gura stream
https://strawpoll.com/polls/3RnYpk4jBye

>> No.25104797

>>25104555
Fulgur's back is like permanently fucked and he still manages to stream. Maybe he can save her

>> No.25104809

Damn, very late and maybe controversial if people cared but, here's the
* FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 28-May
> 14,935 : Nimu (SP Indy)
> 14,403 : Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
> 14,315 : Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 12,154 : VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 11,974 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 8,408 : Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 7,503 : Shylily (EN Indy)
> 7,344 : nihmune (EN Indy)
> 7,203 : Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 6,953 : Bao (EN Indy)
> 5,954 : Jack (KR Indy)
> 5,742 : maoruya (KR Indy)
> 5,543 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 5,411 : zrush (CN Indy)
> 5,010 : kson (JP Indy)
> 3,879 : ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 3,482 : KSPKSP (CN Indy)
> 3,036 : Kyokeru (EN Indy)

1. Nimu takes it with an IRL, Event stream at the Twitch Rivals thing. From the graph it looks like there were at least 5 raids on top.
Gross gold but, sticking with the "1 irl stream in a row" rule from so far.
If she does a 2nd in a row - flagged for a week and only Vtuber model streams count.
2. Ironmouse streamed again after 5 days.
On Twitch, if you don't stream you die and, outside of Shoto's audience, the NA scene has been dying with so few top streamers.
The top VShojo, NijiEN and even Nux streaming almost not at all.
3. Kson returned after her vaccine booster problems.
4. Isegye still very strong.
5. Jack had a new outfit reveal. One of only 3 guys on this list.

>> No.25104818

>>25104406
No, that's a weird day when Gura picked 11:30pm est to stream, the sportfes starts 30min earlier than her stream.

>> No.25104836

>>25104306
If she's so interesting then it's a shame about her recline.

>> No.25104849

why do I come out as a cope when i say debut buff. Do people really think she'll keep this number or even at 50k tier after a year?

>> No.25104862

>>25099481
>graph normal

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>>25103329
we need a holoEN male gura to compete

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>>25104809
Image didn't load either. Whatever gets just 1.

>MAY 2022 TWITCH GOLD
1) VIichan (Isegye Idol) - 12,742 - React, Naver catchup + Project D
2) Jingburger (Isegye Idol) - 10,760 - React, Naver catchup + Valorant
3) Veibae (VShojo) - 14,811 - Summer costume reveal + MGR: Revengeance
4) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 11,883 - Surprise model reveal + Uno & Battleship
5) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 9,661 - React, Naver catchup
6) Nyanners (VShojo) - 10,772 - Easy Bake Oven cooking
7) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 21,889 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
8) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 38,159 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
9) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 15,300 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
10) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 21,521 - Combat Maid VR
11) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,742 - Poker against the CEO
12) Shoto (Indy) - 15,704 - Labyrinthine with Niji EN
13) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 11,533 - Poppy Playtime Ch 2
14) Nimu (Indy) - 26,678 - Birthday Raid (12,613 before raid)
15) Jururu (Isegye Idol) - 35,570 - "Ju. T'aime" 3D live
16) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 17,256 - React, Naver catchup + Peglin
17) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 21,994 - React, Naver catchup
18) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 17,595 - Husky Naver catchup collab + VR Chat
19) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 12,814 - JK model MMD
20) Jururu (Isegye Idol) - 14,751 - Picking best anime Openings
21) Zentreya (VShojo) - 25,817 - New model re-debut
22) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,485 - React, Naver catchup
23) Ironmouse (VShojo) - 23,660 - IRL adventures in Japan with Connor
24) Ine (Isegye Idol) - 17,728 - Karaoke and VR Singing
25) Gosegu (Isegye Idol) - 14,658 - Zatsu, Naver catchup and Instagram DMs check
26) ZilverK (LA RATIZA) - 19,965 - VR Chat Raid Spree (5,254 before raid)
27) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 13,440 - Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA
28) Nimu (Indy) - 14,935 - IRL - Twitch Rivals Ultimate Challenge (5+ raids)

>PER COMPANY
18x: Isegye Idol
6x: VShojo
3x: Indy
1x: LA RATIZA

>PER STREAMER
5x: Gosegu, Lilpa
4x: Ine
3x: Ironmouse
2x: Jururu, Nimu
1x: Jingburger, Nyanners, Shoto, Veibae, VIichan, Zentreya, ZilverK

>> No.25104911

>>25104797
Hello Fulgur! Nice to see you back here

>> No.25104919

>>25104818
oh, maybe because not a lot people knew hololiveJP back then.

>> No.25104982

nijisanji really struck gold with Salome. If even 10% of her tourists check out other niji vtubers then they would have caught up with holo's mid-range offerings in one swoop while still maintaining male dominance

>> No.25104998

>>25098124
Worse, he's playing a game. Chinese fujos only will tune in if it's sex dungeon RP ASMR thus that's like a third of Vox's content now.

>> No.25105019

>>25104883
>Dream
don't put that cheater faggot with my oshi who sent his fans army to arrass the jugde.

>> No.25105050

>>25104628
No, let me elaborate.
I just don't get how people can say shit like
>She's not really any more interesting than most streamers you'll find in Niji or Holo
when they actually understand what she is saying and get her humor.
She is at least pekora tier humor. Would you call that something that's like most of the streamers you find in Holo or Niji? It's bullshit.

>> No.25105051

>>25097995
wait for her to get dragged down by the mob of Niji leeches coming for her.

>> No.25105054

>>25104982
Bots can't check out other channels

>> No.25105069

>>25104982
Silly anon. Bots can't tune in to other streams. I doubt Anycolor have funds to pay for bots for their hundreds of chuubas.

>> No.25105089

>>25105050
Can you stop already??

>> No.25105117

man I really want to go to sleep but there's no way I'll miss the shitstorm when gura barley breaks 25k

>> No.25105152

>>25105117
Try 20K. Vince's game is just too shitty for more than that.

>> No.25105155

>>25105050
your larping is way too obvious now

>> No.25105223

>>25105089
>>25105155
???
OK, whatever helps you cope.

>> No.25105233

>>25105050
You're right, anon. Thanks for the correction. She's better than most streamers you can find in Niji since as their tail is long and full of broken content creators.

>> No.25105235

>>25104809
Why did Bao get 7k? Raid? Talking about fucking dogs again?

>> No.25105251

>>25105050
Is this bait?
How the fuck is she anywhere near Pekora tier humour?

>> No.25105264

the shitposters, samefaggins are already awake you can see few post about Salome this salome there, She XQC she is mito she is me. This almost make me puck already for the mental ilness about they don't want to stop shitposting.
Jannies pls ban them already!!!!!!

>> No.25105279

>>25105235
>Talking about fucking dogs again
I think she's milking that now that the VA answered her.

>> No.25105288

Would Towa get some awesome numbers if she ever decided to host her very own Vtuber Apex tournament ?

>> No.25105299
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>>25104982
Will Ojou Rion be her first collab partner?

Or will she not get to spread the audience to other Niji JP girls?

>> No.25105326

>>25105251
Anon, stop replying to GPTchama.

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>>25104797
Wait do they really both have back injuries?

>> No.25105359

Now that it's been a few months, isn't vox a bit TOO unpopular in NA/EU times? Like I somehow don't see the other Luxiem guys dropping this badly. Did he actually manage to drive off the SEA audience or some shit? Is he a viewer pariah because of his chink horde?

>> No.25105390

Wonder what the cope will be when salami's numbers drop off a cliff after the IPO

>> No.25105413

>>25105288
Good numbers but not Hal/Aqua level.

>> No.25105457

>>25105359
I think Vox has the highest ratio of CN fans, everyone else has a slightly more diversified viewer base.

>> No.25105455

>>25105390
Well right now her "fans" are trying to deny that she is being botted to the heavens so I'm sure they'll still deny that happened after it stops

>> No.25105459

>>25103252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo

>> No.25105492

>>25105390
shitposters and samefaggings will change to vox again

>> No.25105498

>>25105390
She is getting culled

>> No.25105501

>>25105359
It's no secret where the bulk of their viewers are from. NijiEN males are simply nothing like HoloEN and to a lesser extent the NijiEN girls for viewerbase.

>> No.25105508

>>25105390
None they'll just stop posting about her and go back to Vox SCs or whatever.

>> No.25105562

>>25104982
>If even 10% of her tourists check out other niji vtubers
>no funnel >>25103790
not happening kek even niji jops are seething about it

>にじに新しい風来てるなら昨日の新衣装3Dお披露目観に来いやマジで
>新しい風どこ?

>> No.25105565

>>25105390
I'm just preparing for another bullshit CCVid for all vtubers because Salaminigger decided to bot herself. Expect massive sub culls and CCV culls for the JP chuubas.

>> No.25105577

>>25105235
https://twitchtracker.com/baoo/streams/46485912205
Yes, she got a 2k raid

>> No.25105699

>>25105565
Corporate did it for her because of the upcoming IPO

>> No.25105763

Salami first collab when?

>> No.25105797

>vod views consistent with CCV
>"still smells fishy. reeks of bullshit. that's all the proof i need"

Really?

>> No.25105833

>Gura's WWE 2K
Oh man this week has been only shitstorms on /#/, wasn't it...

>> No.25105846

Oh we're back to tribalfaggotry, seething and botcope, did the SEAnigs wake up early or did someone piss in the spics' tacos?

>> No.25105850

>>25105797
samefagging pls stop

>> No.25105892

kek look at gura's description
what a leeching whore

>> No.25105897

>>25105457
>Alban
JPY > TWD > HKD > USD
>Yugo
Yen > TWD> USD
>Fulgur
USD = TWD > Yen
>Sonny
TWD > Yen > HKD
>Uki
Yen > TWD > HKD > USD

>Mysta
TWD > Yen > USD
>Vox
USD > HKD > Yen > TWD
>Luca
HKD > YEN > USD
>Shu
Yen > HKD > TWD> USD
Ike
Yen > HKD > USD

>> No.25105933

>>25105455
I don’t even wanna say bots but I don’t know how anyone in their right mind could believe someone is naturally attaining 100k viewers playing resident evil 7 when:
>1. She doesn’t take any viewers away from Niji and Holo fans
>2. Her chat is questionably slow for the amount
>3. Laplus, the most hyped up female debutee in JP history (arguably) with at the time the highest ccv ever for a debut, picked up 55k viewers for her very first stream. Salome has beaten her own debut numbers every stream she’s done
Like, I don’t think anyone’s dumb enough to say someone can’t possibly have fans or large viewership. Even the NijiCN homos seem to have a decent sized fanbase regardless of whether they’re viewfarmed or not. But 90k+ streams when no one is even taking a dent in the 2 major companies of JP? Too fucking suspicious to me.

>> No.25105946

>>25104982
More like Salome struck gold by debuting on her own and going viral

>> No.25105964

>>25105846
it was so nice...well, while it lasated at least, love jp nijis and holos
but yeah they should be waking upnow

>> No.25105994

>>25105565
>>25105797
Same poster, btw.

>> No.25106022

astroturfed IPO scam
well played anykara

>> No.25106043

>>25105846
Yeah it's fairly obvious it's the same few anons samefagging and larping both sides.

>> No.25106059

>>25105946
stop already samefagging

>> No.25106064

>>25105763
in a month after the collab ban ends

>> No.25106077

>>25105933
VODs views have been the most reliable metric to validate sussy ccv.
Now, go check her vod views and take your meds after that

>> No.25106086

>>25105897
Wonder how many USD here is VPNed, is it worth it or better just VPN to HKD and TWD?

>> No.25106109

>>25103127
you mean they were hidden and not removed?

>>25103368
Perhaps but we're talking about dealing with outside parties like Goodsmile so I don't imagine it's 100% up to Cover

>>25104397
That might be a huge pressure on the person though, works well with this kind of gimmick character but more chill chuuba would turn many people off and no doubt feel bad about it. Still it should be a good idea for the numbers to debut the whole gen one person a week, then again you would have to keep the hype circle for more than a month and that is bound to get you some diminishing returns and it's hard to even split a group of 5.

>> No.25106124

Why didn't you guys tell me that the best Holo orisong Infinity got 1M?

>> No.25106133

>>25106086
For Vox I'm pretty sure at least half of the USD are actual chinks because you see them incoming with chink messages

>> No.25106176

>>25106124
you're a couple of days late mate

>> No.25106196

>>25102861
I'm pretty sure they did an actual chuuba episode that didn't have any hololive references

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>>25105933
>Her chat is questionably slow for the amount
lol not this shit again, she had 250.3 messages per minute vs. 283.5 for Miko whose was mostly member emote spam

>> No.25106254

>>25106059
please use DeepL to post in English you uneducated swine

>> No.25106272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZA
doggy god is about to hit 3m in a couple more K

>> No.25106282

>>25105897
That seems realistic. Most of their fanbase are asians

>> No.25106296

>still 2.5k waiting
it's just sad

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>>25106254

>> No.25106328
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>>25105797
The worm-shaped curve just appeared. Never happen outside nijiEN-Luxiem stream.

>> No.25106336

>>25106206
they probably had the chat set to top chat instead of live chat to think it was slow, i went and checked since i couldnt watch live but was reading the thread and that chat was fucking flying

>> No.25106359

>>25106206
>>25106296
stop already samefagging

>> No.25106399

>>25106336
>that chat was fucking flying
source: trust me bro.

>> No.25106402

>>25106296
?
That's pretty good when the stream will start in 2 hours anon. In fact just today people were shitposting Salome for having only 2.5 waiting a few hours before the start lol

>> No.25106409

>>25106296
It's not sad, it's a logical conclusion of inconsistent streaming.

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>>25106328
the best part about it was the fucking cliff straight up from 63k to 79k in just seconds

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25106424

>4x more VOD views than subs
>this makes sense trust me

>> No.25106448

>>25106328
Thqts pretty blatant. Why are people pretending this is legit?

>> No.25106499

>holofags start deflecting to nijiCN
poor holobronies

>> No.25106518

>>25106402
is the shitposters and samefagging that put another Niji in their pedestal again. They won't stop until they find other one just the the stupid and retarded logic: Hate the holos and Love the Nijis.

>> No.25106546

I see he's back already and samefagging larping as a holofag this time instead of a nijinigger, go eat your pagpag faggot

>> No.25106554

If EN3 has another rapper chuuba and she can start legit rap battles with Mori in 3D, what would the numbers be?

>> No.25106557

>>25106424
To be fair, JOPs are notorious for not subbing. Jun gets 100k CCV pretty often and his subs get mogged hard

>> No.25106561

>>25104982
>10%
the problem is that we're talking 1%. there's zero benefit for the rest of the members her having big numbers

>> No.25106567

>>25106328
Then why are her VOD views consistent? A smooth graph wouldn't mean shit either considering that one botted Prism girl's

>> No.25106590

>>25106206
>Miko 9600 unique chat users
>Salome 7000 unique chat users
Really makes you think.

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>>25106499
>>25106546
>He think no one notice him

>> No.25106604

>>25106554
Mori can't do rap battles according to herself

>> No.25106606

Ok, I enjoyed the three hours where the thread was more or less bearable. Bye until tomorrow, I guess.

>> No.25106614

>>25106557
>JOPs watch streams, but don't sub
>EOPs sub, but don't watch streams
Pain-peko...

>> No.25106637

>>25106554
EN is over, no numbers

>> No.25106656

>>25106567
View farms give vod views too. Old Kpop stan strat

>> No.25106661

>>25106328
weird first 10minutes, natural looking after that.
I don't know why holobronies are so freaked out by her. It's good she's getting this many people into vtubing.
Her desuwa shtick will get old fast and my holo oshi will charm those neophytes easy

>> No.25106664

>>25106637
It's a hypothetical thought experiment, anon.

>> No.25106667

>>25106567
Luxiem has pretty consistent VoD too regardless of the worm-shaped curves.
This worm curve have no explainable context like disconnection.

>> No.25106668

>>25106206
>Hololyzer
Their chat log speed has been inaccurate for months anon.
>Miko 3D outfit reveal last year: 19 messages a second
>Miko 3D outfit reveal this year (with almost 50k more watching): 4.72

>> No.25106694

>>25106554
holoEN numbers died along with covid and is never coming back

>> No.25106704

>>25106590
do members not fall under users?

>> No.25106722

>>25106590
>Miko 9600 unique chat users
6672 is the total number and 3091 of those are members you mongoloid

>> No.25106736

>>25106694
Unless vax-resistant omega variant comes along.

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25106762

Fulgur got hit by the Z. Wonder what the fuck is causing this. Also, was he raided? Because if he was this would've been a LOT lower stream than it peaked at which is just sad.

>> No.25106793

Is it a bug or Miko's member stream went public for a moment yesterday?
I know that some JP will do a public member stream then change it to members only afterwards, but is it the case for Miko yesterday?

>> No.25106815

>>25106554
lets assume the girl is good, and she hasnt shed too much steam during the 1 month collab ban. I could see... 30-35k maybe 40k tops declining with time between ban lift and actually doing such a thing unless EN3 somehow injects something fierce into holoEN which i doubt.

>> No.25106839

>>25106668
survey says bots have increased for Hololive

>> No.25106840

>>25106661
it's just unnatural curve that doesn't happen anywhere outside niji. Maybe it's yt AI doing (learning stage)? who knows. I'll just keep tab of it until there is reasonable explanation.

>> No.25106894

>>25106839
My spider sense agrees with that so it's true

>> No.25106918
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Another 10k already since 500k, she gained 9k in the same period last night

>> No.25106943

>>25106762
Rosemi raid I think if the graphs are anything to go by

>> No.25106988

>>25106668
Can confirm this, sometimes the scrapper can't catch message at high traffic. There are a bunch of missing SCs during the events.

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>>25106839
It's just been wildly inaccurate since somewhere around Feb/March. Every single person tracked has lost like 1/2 to 3/4 of their usual speed when being tracked.

Pic related, Suisei's birthday and her 3d live losing to normal streams the month prior in chat speed. CLEARLY reclining...

>> No.25107116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ZaBJzuReg
Somehow Watame of all people has become a morning streamer

>> No.25107134

>>25107116
does she go to bed after streaming?

>> No.25107163

>>25106943
Why are we still fighting over cripple gold when raids are a thing there?

>> No.25107182

>>25107116
Is there any difference for her?
Poor manager-san lol

>> No.25107187

>>25106918
What time exactly? It's morning desuwa

>> No.25107207

>>25107163
because vt is an EN dominated board, alot of people no matter what you do will always be interested in the EN horse race as midget as it is.

>> No.25107216

>>25104809
At least I care about the daily twitch list, in fact it is the only true list on twitch outside of large indies global

>> No.25107290

>>25104809
what happened to all the other vshojo?

>> No.25107312

>>25107216
And only that one anon cares about non-EN stuff. /lig/ is mainly about EN indies despite their OP.

>> No.25107321

>Kizuna Ai 2016-2018
>Nijisanji apr 2018 - apr 2020
>Hololive may 2020 - may 2022
>Salome june 2022 - present
Sasuga

>> No.25107383

>>25107187
https://twitter.com/2434subscriber/status/1530227319444750336
https://twitter.com/2434subscriber/status/1530310488122597376
413k at 1:39 to 422k at 7:10 vs.
https://twitter.com/2434subscriber/status/1530591952361910272
https://twitter.com/2434subscriber/status/1530675907496919040
500k at 1:48 to 510k at 7:22

>> No.25107398

>>25107321
Get your premature ejaculation issue looked at

>> No.25107496

3k waiting for Gura already. To contextualize this for people, her original Elden Ring had 2.5k waiting for her around this same time period. Also her OW collab before 3 other POVs got listed, and that was bugged to shit and still almost hit 20k despite it all.

Seems certain at this point that this will hit 20k. It’s a question now if it’ll hit 30k

>> No.25107503

>>25107134
No lol, even when she streams until the morning she's still normally up for a few hours after that doing various things

>> No.25107567

>>25107496
There was never any doubt of it hitting 20k anon, it will have at least some JOP tourists wanting more wrassling, and JOP tourists got her Closing Shift to 25k. I think 30k is doable barring shit like her just playing the wrestling game instead of making holos or huge delays

>> No.25107620

>>25107496
Waiting room doesn't mean jack shit for HoloEN. It can go any number of ways.

>> No.25107632

>>25107496
Hopefully there is an arc from Gura, I feel like the last time she had an arc is the Mario Kart, which is a very satisfied watch. Another arc I can think of is the trident farm thing, which is long ago.

>> No.25107663

>>25107567
>barring shit like her just playing the wrestling game instead of making holos or huge delays
In other words, 30k is not doable.

>> No.25107675

>>25104767
That seems to be a sponsorship or at least advertisement for a big event anyways.
Also they can't stream genshin in holo

>> No.25107724

>>25107496
trying to predict ENs numbers is a fools game at the whim of susan and her sawtoothing

>> No.25107878

>>25107724
I beleeb in the JOP tourists who actually get verified

>> No.25107920
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Remember when Pekora was the only JP to stream during the day on weekends?

>> No.25107985

>>25106328
oh no no not like this

>> No.25108014

>>25107920
>Aqua
nijikiller tasuketee!

>> No.25108028

>>25107920
It was much better times. JPs would ONLY stream in the morning/noon on the weekend, and it was pretty much only Pekora/Subaru/Noel? With some morning shows here and there. Nowadays you have fucking 8 JPs invading the slot and they play for 5-8hrs a stream. It’s ridiculous

>> No.25108058

Wow, Bae is actually not overlapping anyone today!

>> No.25108277

>>25107920
Koyo Love

>> No.25108326

>>25108058
someone should let her know about this oversight

>> No.25108364

>>25108058
Ame is going to plant her fat ass in that timeslot just to fuck with you
But if she continues to do that voice modulation baby shit she's not going to get views and with no one joining her, like Mumei did last time, this will probably not be a good stream in genral

>> No.25108401

>>25107920
I remembed when Luna was the only one streaming at 25JST

>> No.25108677

>>25107567
the only thing that makes me think there will be fewer JOP tourists is that gura put the frame/tweet up when most would have gone to bed and since she starts at 9am for them i can see some missing it due to not knowing about it

>> No.25108856

>>25105897
This is fucking useless because we know that the chinks donate using other currencies over VPN.

>> No.25108883

>>25108856
The point is that it solidifies it's literally asia where 95% of their viewers come from.

>> No.25108914

>>25105897
>Vox
>USD
never fails to make me laugh

>> No.25108973

>>25106206
>Miko had faster chat speed
>Miko has more likes
Like I'm actually getting tired of this shit. Every single sign we look at shows us that this new Niji cunt's (I refuse to use her name) numbers are not genuine. I just don't understand the Niji fanbase. Why can't they just watch their chuubas instead of artificially boosting her numbers?

>> No.25109059

>bot chang ccvid cull cope
to holobronies really? every time

>> No.25109091

>>25106328
It really shows you how disingenuous the people are here. This is the EXACT SAME SHIT that happens to Luxiem and all of a sudden people are going "nuh uh, can't be bots, she is just that good".

Fuck off, If Luxiem gets slandered for months for botted viewership than this bitch should too.

>> No.25109094

>>25108973
Bro you just posted cringe

>> No.25109157

>>25109094
>posted cringe
>you have been slandering Luxiem for months using the same kind of graphs
Screw you. Why are they bots with Luxiem but all of a sudden bots are off the table with you fags?

>> No.25109162

>>25109091
I'm one of the people that think Luxiem numbers aren't botted, same with Salome's. Holofags are just full on cope whenever something good happens to Niji.

>> No.25109239

>>25109157
do you seriously have to ask?

>> No.25109259

Holofags are still coping about bots? holy shit

>> No.25109262

>>25108973
IPO, anon. Need to defend and boost the corpo.

>> No.25109309

>25109259
>25109239
>25109162
>25109157
>25109094
>25109091
>25109059
>25108973
>25109262
the fuck is this falseflagging samefagging bullshit, is this thread dead?

>> No.25109313

5k waiting room before the notifications go out for Gura. This might actually be pretty good barring Susan being a dumb whore

>> No.25109331

>>25109309
pagpag eaters woke up

>> No.25109345

salome fanart has 200k likes on twitter wtf

>> No.25109372

>>25108058
>>25108364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGTEUNxIP3w

Kek, what the fuck did I tell you

>> No.25109438

https://youtu.be/vGTEUNxIP3w
Ame may be a RETARD but maybe she isn't so debuff after all...

>> No.25109446

>>25109345
Yeah, I don't think it's bots.

>> No.25109457

>>25109162
That Niji bitch's (I refuse to use her name) numbers are 100% botted and even if they aren't botted in the traditional way they are manipulated somehow. Is it a fan or the actual company? I'm not sure but the numbers are not authentic.

I've been paying attention to numbers everyday on this thread and nothing about this is real.

>> No.25109506

JOPs invading Gura pre chat
This could be BIG (relative to EN numbers)

>> No.25109531

>>25109345
It's only that one piece of fanart that gets linked here all the time and that is mostly because it came from a famous artist. Most of the fanart I've seen of her doesn't even get as many likes as Gura fan art.

>> No.25109557

>>25109438
>Yesterday late night karaoke
>Today doctor roleplay with badonkers
Is the old Ame coming back?

>> No.25109571

>>25109345
we lost holobros...

>> No.25109584

>>25109438
>overlaps Bae
ahahah well called >>25108364

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wat da pajeets doin?
feels like these are getting more extreme

>> No.25109657

>>25109506
Its just gonna be a 30k which isn't even that big for Gura. Also looks like Watame is streaming in this slot so that's a few - JOP tourists

>> No.25109673

>>25109506
>JOPs
There's maybe a couple of them, no more that her usual stream.

>> No.25109708

Zeta 3k

>> No.25109718

>>25109657
>Its just gonna be a 30k
Nah, mid-20k.

>> No.25109738

>>25109644
kek wtf

>> No.25109745

>>25109657
22k probably

>> No.25109767

>>25109644
Looks like an EKG

>> No.25109769

Zeta with ANOTHER 3k
If you exclude her 2 zatsu/sc readings, she’d have hit 3k in 10 of her last 11 streams. Girl is a fucking monster by ID standards

>> No.25109894

>>25109657
I don't think they'd have much overlap in viewers, so it definitely should be pretty minimal.

>> No.25109906

>>25109769
Ollie can't even hit 2k nowadays

>> No.25109908

>>25109157
Look I haven't posted anything about Luxiem. I actually like Luxiem.
You are just cringe at that point and your grudge won't amount to anything but more shitposts. None of them is getting bots. If you had to endure this shit, don't try to do this to others out of mere spite.

>> No.25110024

>>25109906
barely 2k on a karaoke is pretty depressing

>> No.25110040

>>25109908
>I actually like Luxiem
You call that guy cringe but that is the most cringe shit I've seen posted here in a long time. Go back to your dox site and discuss Fuxiem with the other degenerates who watch those fags.

>> No.25110233

Holobronies are the most hard coping tribal niggers in this thread its insane.

>> No.25110237
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there's nothing wrong with these
absolutely no bots
just susan fucking with the tourists viewfarms

>> No.25110319

>>25110237
Shit posters won't let us have a civilized discussion about Niji fudging the numbers right before the go public. Somebody admitted the Niji discord invaded us so we know what is happening. It happened a couple days ago.

>> No.25110355

What is the difference between worm and EKG?

>> No.25110386

>>25110355
EKG is something that's 100% on youtube because it happens to everyone.
Worm literally only seems to happen to Niji which is why it's weird.

>> No.25110389

>>25110355
the ekg has a very distinct Z pattern

>> No.25110400

>the amount of "fans" with Holo pfp who are truly not aware Miko already did this on Gura's prechat...
After the fiasco of Anime Boston early today I'm not surprised not only chumpedos do not follow Hololive at all. Only Kronies and KFP are, somehow, on touch with the holobox.

>> No.25110428

>>25110400
holoEN doesn't have a box so not surprising

>> No.25110439

>>25110400
k

>> No.25110464

>>25109644
BROS SHES USING BOTS REEEEEEEEE

>> No.25110499

>25110464
>25110400
>25110319
>25110237
>25110233

>> No.25110501

8k Waiting

>> No.25110510

>>25110355
EKG = irregular spike follows by overshot drop before recalibrating to normal level
Worm = a short drop curving into some baseline before increasing again.

>> No.25110581

So I swallowed my pride and decided to watch the new Niji cunt (I refuse to use her name) and she is just as lame and vulgar as any other shitty Niji. Why do they always have to rely on pee pee poo poo bullshit? It's so lame how they always resort to that.

>> No.25110607

>>25110400
>After the fiasco of Anime Boston early today
???

>> No.25110625

>>25110581
are you attempting a comedy act instead of shitposting?

>> No.25110639

>>25110607
Basic clipnigger questions were getting answered wrong. I feel bad for Fauna who put it all together.

>> No.25110672

10.3k waiting right as 8PM hit

>> No.25110677

>>25110581
no no she's
>reaching an untapped market
>MYSTERIOUS!!
>captivated the nijitourist audience (whatever that means)

>> No.25110744

>>25110581
Too bad she does not mention her period or how she eats her retarded brothers shit like HoloID does.

>> No.25110762

Holy shit, already up to 12.5k waiting

>> No.25110787

>>25110677
yeah, I don't buy it for a second. The whole thing smells like shit and this bitch needs to disappear.

>> No.25110801

late start
there goes the wait room recovery

>> No.25110818

>late
I swear to fucking God the only ENs that don't start like 3 minutes after the fucking timer is Bae and Fauna

>> No.25110827

>>25110607
this >>25094221
although the questions seemed to have only been answered by clipniggers since someone got these wrong
>>25093032
>>25094084

>> No.25110852

>>25110744
Yeah, of course not. Just showing her insides and talking about pissing on herself.

I fucking hate Nijisanji and their Vshojo tier bullshit.

>> No.25110853

>>25110581
Doesn't matter what you think. Salome's numbers are real. Look at her VOD numbers decimating any Holo stream. Literally consecutive 900k-1m views per stream. Meanwhile it's obvious Holo streams are botted. See Miko 111k ccv only getting 700k views

>> No.25110858

>>25110801
Its not so simple anon. Its real huge delays that fuck with the recovery, not small ones

>> No.25110863

>>25110801
Waiting room recoveries haven’t been that bad anymore for ENs. It’s the sawtooth and following verification problems that’re junk as well as actually delaying the stream
These types of waiting rooms are usually finished within 2-3 mins nowadays

>> No.25110908

>>25110853
Fuck off faggot. It's not hard to view farm VODs.

>> No.25110924

>>25110827
how the fuck do you get the gura question wrong

>> No.25110965

>>25110863
>2 to 3 minutes
>When it's instant recovery for JP (and oddly enough Luxiem)
No, it's not "fixed". It's still fucking broken.

>> No.25111015

>>25110924
probably a clipnigger or casual

>> No.25111033

>>25110965
I’m just saying it’s not like 8-10 minutes like it was months ago. We can only hope we get the luck that those fucks get with their 0 min waiting room recoveries

>> No.25111066

>>25111015
still, ride on time is practically interlinked with gura

>> No.25111081
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>>25111015
>clipnigger

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About half gone, as expected

>> No.25111172

>>25111094
It's recovering rather quickly

>> No.25111183

>>25104836
She's been around for almost 5 years, the pandemic nerfed her strongest content (zatsudan report streams where she goes to weird places and tells her experiences), and rising to popularity actually turned off some of her initial fans because her appeal was being an "underground girl". Also didn't help that she killed all of her gachikois because of she made her own boyfriend by gathering weird twitter replies and killed it on stream so now all her gachikois are either yumejoshis or actually obsessed lunatics. Her couple ship with Higuchi Kaede which popularized the trend of yuribaiting also fizzled out because she's not gay and they just settled down with being "partners" that hang out more often off-stream than on-stream now. Another factor is that because Mito got too popular, she got too many sponsorships and paid events that it shot her streaming time and time for anything else that made her popular in the first place. Joining Sony's Sacra Music also hurt her fanbase because she had to shut down her gmail where she gathers fanmails and where people send weird shit to her like how they pooped that day. Last year she spent more time doing concerts every month than doing kikaku streams including the highly anticipated hyakumonogatari that she has done yearly since 2019. She still does kikaku streams (and wants to do more of them this year including reviving hyakumonogatari), but she's pretty busy with a lot of things including her own personal life, plus she got covid that she still hasn't very fully recovered from. Some people are also turned off with how "she" is "literally just herself", not an actual seiso 16 year old JK.

Nevertheless, she's still an amazing phenomenon by herself, because as you can see, despite all the debuffs I mentioned above (there's still more I haven't mentioned), she still somehow manages to stay above 5K unlike almost every other vtuber from her era that is not in hololive.

>> No.25111243

>>25111172
About 3 minutes to recover, most of which was the load screen.

>> No.25111247
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I fucking hate youtube.

>> No.25111254

>>25110908
Let me guess, her subs are also not real.

>> No.25111263

>>25111172
its about a 3 min recovery

>> No.25111296

>Not a collab with Kronii
Sad

>> No.25111300

>>25111254
Screw you Niji bootlicker

>> No.25111327

>Gura can only get 20% of what Miko can get for the same game
Its over. EN is a dead market already

>> No.25111349

>>25111296
Kronii's sleep schedule is beyond fucked and she was stuck actually doing work for the past 12 hours thanks to the con. She's probably completely checked out

>> No.25111427

Miko WWE and Salome have ruined number watching for me.

>> No.25111428

>>25111327
Anon you realize Miko started at 29k, right? She then built a huge arc and invited other holos on stream for a grand finale? Fuck off with this bad faith shit

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>>25111183
>she still somehow manages to stay above 5K unlike almost every other vtuber from her era that is not in hololive
who even does besides Miko and Suisei?

>> No.25111466
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25111466

Still going over clips but decided to take a look at Salome. Here's what it currently looks like (I don't have the latest numbers so no recent stream).
The curve seen is expected, as clips views are correlated with time. It can be seen that the majority of the clips are in japanese, which is expected. There is some EN clip views, which I will attribute to interest around the phenomena rather than the person herself. That and it is scraped from Holodex, which may not have every single clipper, especially those in non-english. I will assume the bigger ones are already added so make your own judgements.
These numbers are also really good, as expected from a big debut buffs. Miko for example gets 2-5M with her WWE, but barely aggregates 1M with other stream clips. And this is with a group of clippers who have the audience to get these view counts.
Conclusion? High interest from Japan. Anything past that is speculation, with so few data points.

>> No.25111505

>>25111254
Holokeks can't stop losing. KEK. Even right now we got actual proof of a Hololiver with fake subs
>4m subs
>sub 30k on the most buffed stream ever

>> No.25111562

>the sawtooth already started
christ almighty why is youtube like this

>> No.25111641

>>25111466
Also forgot to state, the biggest clip so far is TPK3_EkHl1M (727k), which is a reaction clip. These generally do better because reasons.

>> No.25111645

>>25111562
That's what you get for botting Holokekchama

>> No.25111654

I feel like spending more than 5 minutes in this thread qualifies you as a masochist

>> No.25111703

>Fauna actually retweeting Gura's stream
Neat. Too bad most of the people who watch her probably were already watching Gura

>> No.25111735

>>25111247
Susan removing the bots

>> No.25111744

>there's a nijinigger already spamming on cooldown
of course. disgraceful in victory, insufferable in defeat

>> No.25111763

>>25111427
Get ready for even bigger numbers soon. Salome will be streaming on the biggest buff day of the week. I wouldn't be surprise if she beat Kuzuha's gaming record.

>> No.25111765

>>25111703
I don't imagine much overlap.

>> No.25111773

Have any non Niji vtubers talked about Salome? 100k ccv is insane

>> No.25111825

20k get
10 mins to get to it

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>>25111773
IPO scam?
IPO scam

>> No.25111857

>>25111773
Haachama was imitating her desuwa on Twitter

>> No.25111897

>>25111773
Yeah me, I'm not a vtuber.

>> No.25111910

>>25111846
>Holocoep
>Mindbroken

>> No.25111942

Miko already had 75k CCV by this point.

>> No.25112011

>>25111773
see >>25110237 >we talk about salome and vox every day

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>>25111910
>>Holocoep
>>Mindbroken

>> No.25112037

>>25104306
the weird thing is if mito didn't debut in 2018, riku would've most probably went bankrupt and nijisanji would've never lasted 3 months.

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>>25111942
Just a reminder that not only does Gura have no chance of reaching that ridiculous amount with limited NA viewership, but you're also fucking wrong. Miko didn't just shit out 80k streams from the start, she built a series.

>> No.25112185

>limited NA viewership
What the fuck did a retard mean by this

>> No.25112215

EN management needs to be shot. Imagine having a vtuber with almost 4 million subs performing like this and getting completely fucking mogged by a brand new niji with 4 streams under her belt. Disgraceful.

>> No.25112232

>>25112152
Oh, I'm talking about Miko's latest stream. The most popular one that Gura is currently piggybacking off of.

>> No.25112235

>>25111942
Salome has 95k ccv

>> No.25112246

>>25112185
It means EOPs don't watch streams.

>> No.25112265

>>25112235
I know right, it's damn impressive.

>> No.25112288

>>25112232
>already moving the goalposts

>> No.25112293

>>25112232
Right, because Gura hasn't talked about wanting to do this stream for well over a week at this point.

>> No.25112304

>>25112185
That there has never been 100k hololive CCV for fucking NA, retard. That's what I meant. You probably read it like "there simply aren't enough people awake right now" because you either want to argue in bad faith or have the brainsize of a walnut

>> No.25112328

>>25112215
As a Holofan, I agree. Yagoo should retire out of shame for spending resources for his vanity projects instead of headhunting talents like Salome. But this just shows why Niji is and will forever be the #1 Vtuber company in the world.

>> No.25112337

>>25112304
Gura's second karaoke hit 119k, newfagchama.

>> No.25112341

Oh boy they fuming

>> No.25112346

>>25112185
That whole
>EN reclining
meme you faggots keep spamming - if NAs audience is shrinking, then clearly expecting big numbers out of them is in bad faith.
This has been your singular spoonfeed, any future idiocy will be taken as shitposting and will not be responded to.

>> No.25112350

>>25112293
she mentioned maybe doing it this weekend in a member stream a week ago.

>> No.25112353
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holy autism

>> No.25112352

Nijisanji should just do monthly solo debuts from now on. I think they're on to something here.

>> No.25112372

>>25112304
>That there has never been 100k hololive CCV for fucking NA
Kill yourself you dipshit.

>> No.25112381

>>25112328
as a raging faggot, I fully support this post and its message

>> No.25112408

>>25111183
>she still somehow manages to stay above 5K unlike almost every other vtuber from her era that is not in hololive.
It's sad to see old-era vtubers reclining, dying, or already dead.
In the end, the current talents are much better because much bigger talent pool compared when in an early era

>> No.25112419

>>25112353
He's right

>> No.25112447

>>25112353
Even the Japs are cottoning on to Gura being lazy and unmotivated

>> No.25112450

>>25112353
Holy freaking crap is that a hecking MTL from japanese man???

>> No.25112457

Bait thread? Bait thread.

>> No.25112466

>>25112328
Sorry, disregard this message. I suck cocks.

>> No.25112472

>>25112337
>2020 numbers
ogey. NA has been capped at 50k outside outfits with JOP tourism for a year now, but keep pretending I'm saying something retarded. There aren't more than 50k NA viewers for HoloEN to work with

>> No.25112493

>>25112337
Because it hint trending and a bunch of random people clicked it, then left. The baseline of that stream was like 80-90k and that was at the absolute peak of western vtubing. Anyway Gura's outfit is obviously a better example although that was surely boosted by a fairly good amount of JP tourists as well.

>> No.25112499

It's okay chummies. Maybe 5 million subs will be enough to have relevant CCV numbers.

>> No.25112547

>>25112346
Gura does well globally. A good portion of her audience is asleep or working. While Miko has all of Japan tuning in. That's it really.

>> No.25112559

>>25112353
>tune into one HoloEN stream
>seethe
>post some every minute someone dies in africa tier retardation
lmao wrassling keks

>> No.25112586

>>25112353
The reality is, those people weren't going to do anything anyway.

>> No.25112638

>Gura on track to perform better than anon predictions and beat Miko's first WWE stream too
>thread in meltdown over "bad numbers"
ogey

>> No.25112696

Why is Gura copying Miko

>> No.25112702

>>25112638
why do you ever take seriously anything that gets posted in this thread
just wait for effort posts and the tally and filter everything else

>> No.25112717

>>25112638
Yeah she hasn't even started the fights yet, this'll most likely, not guaranteed, go over 30k at the very least

>> No.25112742

>>25112638
There was like 2 threads today where everyone expected somewhere around 20-25k. It’s already 26k and this thread is acting like this is the end of time and that Gura should just die. Actual fucking retards in this thread sometimes. Seriously

>> No.25112746

>>25112638
i'll summarise the shitposts for you, so that you aren't suprised by them
>can't even get 15k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 16k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 17k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 18k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 19k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 20k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 25k EN doesn't know how to entertain
>can't even get 30k EN doesn't know how to entertain etc.etc.
>EN is reclining
>how do we save EN
>something something unrelated chuuba
>something something council
>something something graduate them
>EN is dead
>something something green bitch
>lOL CaNt GeT MuCH ViEW SaLOme

>> No.25112745

>>25112638
Anons do not have any sense of scale and are here to shitpost, not report on reality.

>> No.25112766

>>25112638
But she got 25k for now that good. Why people still spamming bullshit?

>> No.25112770

>>25112638
Most people said 25-30k, she's still got a while to go before that. EN streams tend to stall out much quicker. Not saying she can't do it just don't assume it's the same as a Japanese growth curve.

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>>25112696
If anyone would be happy about this it's Miko

>> No.25112809

>>25112742
>and this thread is acting like this is the end
yes anon, they're acting, should've realized this already

>> No.25112832

>>25112696
Payback for the JP Stickman arc.

>> No.25112836

>>25112746
This. Someone obviously baiting you

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>>25112353
oh god, that holoen anti guy

>> No.25112876

I don't think I've ever hated a vtuber more than this new Niji cunt (I refuse to say her name). Just looking at it's name makes me fucking angry as fuck. Something needs to be done about it.

>> No.25112880

>>25112638
Why do people even numberfag EN? An EN will never get Miko/Salome numbers ever again.

>> No.25112887

gura leech GURA LEECH

>> No.25112896

>>25112770
>25-30k, she's still got a while to go before that
Huh? She's currently between 25 and 30k
>EN streams tend to stall out much quicker
Literally the opposite, EN streams tend to take the longest to reach a peak.

>> No.25112928

>>25112766
Because its morning sunday in SEA

>> No.25112945

>>25112353
>>25112856
He is shitposting on 5ch and here?

>> No.25112947

>>25112880
Because they refuse to make a split thread so they will be memed on.

>> No.25112955

>>25112638
Bro Miko just did a 100k stream where everyone mocked her just because someone else beat her. Numbers doesn't mean shit anymore, people just shitpost here for when they can't get away with it on catalog. Thread stop being about numbers a long time ago.

>> No.25112957

What's the most viewed Nijisanji video?

>> No.25112969

>>25112746
>1/4 SALOME [NEW]

>> No.25112986
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>>25112638
gura will probably peak close to/just under miko

>> No.25112992

>>25112957
CCV or VOD views?

>> No.25112997

>>25112957
Ochame Kinou

>> No.25113016

>>25112947
most people want this thread gone, why do you think a second one would ever be allowed? also seeing as this is an english board, jp should be the split

>> No.25113028

>>25112896
Before "beating expectations" i.e. going beyond what people predicted.

>> No.25113029

>>25112955
it does sound kinda funny when you put it like "imagine not getting 2k more than the other 100k stream, dying company"

>> No.25113035

>>25112986
Yep, people need to realize that streamers like WWE require a build up.

>> No.25113077

>>25113016
Globalfags aren't people and don't belong here anyway

>> No.25113112

>>25113016
>most people want this thread gone
absolutely not
this thread contains an untold amount of autism that seeped into every other thread before its creation

>> No.25113128

>>25112957
Reimu debut.

>> No.25113152

>>25113016
>most people want this thread gone
No "we" do not. Stay in your containment zone with your retardation for as long as you can.

>> No.25113180

>>25112992
VOD

>> No.25113186

>>25112880
because anyone who has an interest in tracking numbers knows that English streaming is infinitely more competitive than any other language.
just look at the Spanish streaming scene.
the English audience is spread across the entire globe.

so the fair assumption is its shitposters

>> No.25113214

>>25112955
Maybe stop being such a faggot?
This is the number thread so Big number > Small number

>> No.25113226

for the first WWE and she elarning how customization works
this is really good. i hope she does this weekly but that is the biggest IF.

>> No.25113230

>>25113112
>this thread contains an untold amount of autism that seeped into every other thread before its creation
Wrong, it contains nothing. Before this thread there was no place for niji vs holo number spazzouts, and yet the catalog was free of them

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520k get

>> No.25113265

>>25113214
This is the numbers thread, not the big numbers thread.

>> No.25113305

>>25113226
This will either be the last stream or you'll get 2 more and no finale

>> No.25113319

>>25113214
man, you sure as hell don't know what the fuck to do with that information by the way you're treating this, this is some monkey brain shit

>> No.25113344

>>25113264
Totally real by the way from Nijisanji who has never shown this kind of sub grown by the way. Like Kuzuha who took years to hit 1 million or even fucking Mito who isn't even there yet. Totally authentic.

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>>25113230

>> No.25113365

>>25113264
Salome can't stop winning. KEK
>At this very moment the 4m dead sub chuuba is leeching from her

>> No.25113370

The challenge for WWE Gura is not on the first stream which should be an easy 30k+.

The actual challenge It's on the next streams that with Gura and most HoloEN big declines happens on series streams even with Elden Ring during it's mega buff period where the second and next streams had great hold you could see how significantly it declined for Gura since she was so terrible at the game and little desire to improve like Mori being bad and affecting her viewerbase for ER (although Mori ended up sticking with ER since she likes souls) so if Gura ends up half assing the stream then the WWE HoloEN series won't hold up well.

>> No.25113382

You guys do realize when Anykara goes public we will finally get a look at their Financials

>> No.25113396

>>25113344
Cope and seethe desuwa

>> No.25113409

>plateau-ing at 26k
MOST POPULAR VTUBER IN THE WORLD CAN'T BEAT AN OUJO-SAMA PLAYING A 5 YEAR OLD GAME AT 12 IN THE MORNING

RIKKU-SAMA, I KNEEELLL!!!!!

>> No.25113416

>>25111773
the other desuwa made a video about salome yesterday

>> No.25113421

These threads and its tribalism were bad but it actually got so much worse with Luxiem it's not even funny

>> No.25113453

>>25111562
>Accuse others of botting
>Your own streams are filtered by YT
Hmmm. Makes you think, eh?

>> No.25113459

>>25113416
Yeah but she's a literal who

>> No.25113468

>>25112957
vox sucking mysta dick ASMR

>> No.25113469

>>25113396
>bait thread
Why underage SEA allowed here?

>> No.25113479

Looks like Susan decided that 27k is Gura's ceiling tonight.

>> No.25113481

>>25113421
women, not even once

>> No.25113496

>>25113370
>series
why do you people keep saying this? She's made no mention of wanting a series

>> No.25113523

>>25113370
this links to gura's ongoing issue of her current schedule since she currently has, at least to the public she has on her plate, house hunting/4m celebration planning/birthday planning.
essentially she needs to be putting schedules up more

>> No.25113525

>>25113421
it was the discord leak, it turned tribalshit on this board into overdrive

>> No.25113527

>>25113382
I guess? Somehow that doesn't fill me with excitement.

>> No.25113529

>>25113180
Some song MV I believe
Luxiem debut song?

>> No.25113552

>>25113496
then what's the fucking point?

>> No.25113555

>>25112957
vod, probably kuzuha king
ccv, last year koshien. likely will get surpassed by the one coming up

>> No.25113569

>>25113527
Money is the ultimate number, I don't know why you retards care so much about views.

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