/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24934868
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

# = god

Ah, peace

Ah, piss

>Fulgur actually doing unarchived karaoke for 200k celebration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXaYE7mHUe8

Have the rest of NijiEN actually gotten to him? Convinced him to do something good for a celebration?
He's pretty good btw, just not a weeb singer.

Lā, friþ

>>24935103
Man every Niji is just gonna milk the fuck out of every 100k milestone huh.

NIJI GOLD

>>24935103
with Gura literally MIA holoEN will actually lose their wheelchair crown this month since hes already pushed Fauna off the top with this

>>24935161
That was the surprising part, he didn't do anything special for 100k, (or 150k) or even his birthday.

5ch's niji thread is still jerking themselves off at having Salome

we're now back to the december meta of whether x chuuba starts on time or 3 minutes early completely deciding the gold race, crazy times

>>24935279
i'll be jerking off too when they draw more porn of her

>>24935279
Do they know what's with the sudden Piss artwork she's getting btw?

Did something happen this stream?

>>24935103
>He's pretty good
Are you deaf

>>24935103
>10k get for Sheep boy

>>24935182
Shion's smug face always makes me laugh

>>24935182
i mean half of them are mia, if niji didnt win it would have been made fun of for months.
this is probably holoen weakes month ever.

TIK TOK HOLOKEKS

Is this Fungus' first 10k outside of debut?

>>24935418
>there's always that one jackass
he was fine during The Night we met, but he cannot hit high notes and he's got no stamina. Getting worse and worse.

We don't have singers with his range among the popular corpo vtubers at least.

>>24935678
he still sucks

Not often Mel gets higher CCV peak than Likes; AsaMel is helping her reach new audiences

>>24934868
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>84,338: Salome (Nijisanji)
>37,943: Mito (Nijisanji)
>33,390: Miko (Hololive)
>32,666: Laplus (Hololive)
>29,399: Lize (Nijisanji)
>24,528: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,760: Haachama (Hololive)
>22,334: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,600: Towa (Hololive)
>16,562: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,200: Kobo (Hololive)
>14,643: Mio (Hololive)
>14,505: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,315: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,296: Macoto (Indie)
>12,782: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,572: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,056: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,805: Lui (Hololive)
>11,684: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,649: Towa (Hololive)
>10,571: Bae (Hololive)
>10,100: Warabe (NoriPro)
>10,000: Mumei (Hololive)

>>24935650
Huh,
After his intro 2.0, looks like yes.
https://www.vstats.jp/video/6vN5OQ9SZdc

>>24935711
/#/chads we won!

>>24935804
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora, Salome
1x: Aqua, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>>24935857
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
101x: Hololive
35x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata
4x: Marine, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Salome, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>24935393
I was half asleep but she was talking about piss for a while during her playthrough and how hard it is to take piss smell out of things(?)

>>24935678
if youve listened to enough nijien Male karaokes he sounds good

>>24935925
no, she was talking about how you can use piss to remove the smell of spoiled food

>>24936055
where the fuck did they find this girl, jesus christ lol

>>24935796
wasn't that normal for her?
She still has a lot of kaigai viewers.

>>24936055
I need to marry her asap...

>>24935494
Sounds like a whole lot of cope for losing the month.

>>24936055
>>24936149
same place as Leos it seems

>>24936460
How is our piss goddess's growth going compared to top holos/top niji releases? 250k in less than 2 days right?

Seems like the jew chuubas already have a yab with one of them being revealed to be the girlfriend of one of the managers (that whole company is probably just nepotism to further the scam anyway)

>>24936675
Shattering all imagined Niji records.

Fulgur is going to raid himself to his next stream, which probably won't have any effect as the stream won't immediately start after, but it will be interesting to see.

He's using re-direct to his next stream with 13k.
With how manny impressions he's getting, will this magically recommend his channel.

Yes, there is nothing else going on.

When was the last time Sana won the prestigious EN gold?
Wake up, Sana, your boyfriend is surpassing you.

>>24936440
Yes sounds like it but when you look at their schedules… You niggers better win this cause it would be embarrassing losing to HoloEN this month with them doing nothing and Niji spamming off collabs and celebrations.

>>24936460
>>24935393
This is peak chuuba

Already 200k+

>>24936440
with the amount of buff content, this would be like niji JP losing august

>>24937142
Isn't Alban birthday going to be higher?

>>24937336
Today kobo karaoke right? 20k finally?

>>24937446
Not seeing it on holodex.

>>24937446
no, saturday. she wont stream today and friday

>>24937336
>holoID regular stream beating out holoEN & nijiEN
something you've never heard of a couple months ago
holofes really impact IDs more than any other branches

>>24937336
trending

>>24937544
Kobo not lazy like gura, if gura stream 5 times a week and not taking break often maybe just maybe just saying

>ここ最近のENにじENの方が串数多いよな
>1日あたりの串数
>ホロENは大体0〜1串
>にじEN 1串〜2串

>ホロENに限ってはサメ居なければ大体0串

OwakonEN...

>>24937815
Council...

the desperation to start the loop, but the thread is so dead...

>>24937534
why did she put freetalk and donation reading on sunday?
that's a perfect timeslot for playing a buff games or something

>>24937969
Good thing I guess?

>>24937336
Demon lord

>>24937815
i wonder if mysta will have a menhera meltdown again if people keep suspice about NijiEN numbers

>>24938086
Did he have a menhera meltdown about numbers?
All I've ever heard him melt down about was people bullying him and Mika

>>24935161
This isnt 100% true.
This is the first time Fulgur has acknowledged any milestone at all.
And Pomu, for some reason, completely skipped doing any 300k celebration.
Enna doesnt really do anything massive for milestones either

It is mostly Vox, Mysta and Luca that really Really emphasises every milestone or achievement to that almost parodical level

>>24937994
I dont know, it's been like this since debut. I guess she just wants to chill on sunday

she should do endurance stream if she wants to celebrate 4m subs as well in her birthday

>19k watching NijiEN
>During NA times
Is this the most NijiEN have had during burger hours?

>>24938334
Nah, they've had more.

A question people complain about dead hours but as their ever being a day when both Hololive and Nijisanji have large amount of dead hours

Another weird clip of Gura gain a lot of tractions.
Smacking Spy Family with Gura's Halloween reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP892UYRARM

>>24938903
Chumbuds gotta watch something as their oshi lazes around I guess.

>>24938903
>using an anime scene for your holo meme
I wonder if anything happens if I report that video

>>24937544
>>24937336
>15k ccv, 242k vod
>12k ccv, 138k vod
voxbro...

>>24935418
Even worse, I'm Fulgur.

>>24935627
You have to stream for a full month to qualify.

Genuine question
Why do Niji fans here continuously talk about how many people are watching Niji at X time when they notoriously stream multiple POVs? And I don’t even mean 1 or 2 POV, I mean 6 POVs, 8 POVs and shit. There has never been a moment in history where solo POVs ever outweighed multiple POVs in total CCV so I don’t really understand it.

>>24936680
>Stupid rats already flying around
Oh boy.

>>24939410
it's not niji fans it's shitposters and they do that to annoy you and get you to respond like you're doing right now

>>24939201
Dang
And it also a 4 hours stream

>>24935161
Fulgur is kind of an interesting case when you analyze him. This 200k was his first time doing anything but before he didn't do anything, spent his birthday with his chat, has a rule to not bring live viewer numbers and sub numbers on chat, etc. He's very much anti-numberfag

>>24939410
Why doesn't Hololive stream multiple povs then if it gets more numbers, hmm? Oh huh, maybe it's easier to bot only 1 stream instead of 3. Pretty conclusive proof towards Holobots being a thing.

>>24939410
Right now there isnt some massive full branch collab with everyone streaming their povs. It is just a very busy with many different streams happening at the same time. The most povs any collab has right now is two

>>24939540
>He's very much anti-numberfag
Huh, wonder how that happened when he was numberfagging in the discord leak. Maybe he had a change of heart because of it.

>>24939410
Baitposters. Only time it's relevant is when it's a big number like 150k+ without a huge special event like a 3D live.

>>24939201
believe in vox magic number

>>24939632
It's more like he wants to seem like he isn't a numberfag. It doesn't mean he isn't.

>>24939540
is this healthier for his viewers?

>>24939632
He was an anti-numberfag before the leak. Both his birthday and 100k were before the leak

>>24939714
no

>>24935461
Shion's smug face always makes me hard

>>24939632
>>24939720
yeah, this. it happened before
>>24939734

Is the SC anon here? I need guidance A's tiwhere to see SC numbers to compare Bae and Fauna's supas these past days.

>>24938124
mika endures antis better than him
so mika has bigger balls than him such a case

AME...
Why play the same games....
Could you try League once?

>>24939410
Should we put in a multiplier for Solo Pov versus many streams at the same time?
>Oh Mysta has 40k on this Offcollab but he is the only NijiEN streaming so he gets the 1.5x multiplier giving NijiEN 60k viewers right now!!!!
>Oh there are 22k People watching NijiEN this NA primetime. Ahh but there are 6 different streams ongoing so they get the 0.7x multiplier, so there are only 15.4k viewers!!!
Shut the fuck up. It is just tallying the total viewers at any given moment, no one gives a shit if you get mad about there being 5 povs instead of the HONORABLE ONLY ONE POINT OF VIEW ALLOWED Creed of hololive or whatever.
Fucking sperg

A what if question what if Holo EN and Niji En where allowed to collab from the beginning would this have affected the numbers of either side

Is there any place tallying how many originals and how many covers each chuuba has done?

>>24939967
This is literally the same thing only owned by different Chinese.

>>24939867
600k yen for Faufau, 800k yen for Bae.

>>24940050
Chink audience and sponsors wont be happy

>>24940050
Not really. Pomu might be a bit higher if she did a decent amount of Kiara collabs, I don't think anyone else would have got much interest in anything more than maybe 1 collab at most from probably Mori.

>2021/5 HoloEN gold
>2021/6 HoloEN gold
>2021/7 HoloEN gold
>2021/8 HoloEN gold
>2021/9 HoloEN gold
>2021/10 HoloEN gold
>2021/11 HoloEN gold
>2021/12 HoloEN gold
>2022/1 HoloEN gold
>2022/2 HoloEN gold
>2022/3 HoloEN gold
>2022/4 HoloEN gold
>2022/5 NijiEN gold

its over...

>>24940176
Where is Kobo EN Gold?

>>24940050
The Niji girls would have had the option to not become cocksleeves.

>>24936680
well that's going to be the end of it.

>>24940176
holoen almost never wins gold, what are you talking about

>>24940232
>Kobo EN Gold
the only id who speak barely speak in english

>>24940246
meds

>>24940176
they win but a what price

>>24937994
Debuff for her genmate

>>24940376
What price? They're WINNING bitch. If HoloEN is too lazy or too busy to stream, too fucking bad.

With Salome reaching 200k subs, this is how the top 15 is now in Nijisanji for fastest nijis
1. Hyakumantenbara Salome - 5 Days
2. Lain Paterson - 11 Days
3. Leos Vincent - 11 Days
4. Vox Akuma - 32 Days
5. Mysta Rias - 37 Days
6. Ike Eveland - 49 Days
7. Alban Knox - 50 Days
8. Luca Kaneshiro - 53 Days
9. Shu Yamino - 54 Days
10. Sonny Brisko - 65 Days
11. Uki Violeta - 68 Days
12. Yugo Asuma - 76 Days
13. Lauren Iroas - 90 Days
14. Fulgur Ovid - 91 Days
15. Tsukino Mito - 99 Days

>>24940469
I kneel desu wa

>>24940469
if she reaches 1M subs before vox I won't be mad

>>24940320
Mysta is SEA,
and he is EN.

I done some digging around in the YouTube API, can also be found if you inspect the source code of the page of an ongoing live stream, and apparently YouTube still tracks and returns the amount of Views a livestream has similarly to how a normal video gets views, separately from it's actual live viewers. So I was wondering has anyone done work into maybe trying to compare the amount of views to live viewers and trying to look for signs of obvious YouTube fuckery in terms of reporting the number of viewers.

>>24940812
there is a website that tracks that but it is pretty inaccurate just like everything youtube does

>>24940728
well at least he speaks english
even chammers is better than kobo

>>24940812
Just say you're a newfag instead of wasting so much time, anon.

>>24940812
For reference, Ame right now has 6k viewers, but her stream has 15,329 views after being live for 30 minutes.

>>24940812
This would vary a lot among streamers due to the different retention rate, it's as as pointless as trying to guess how much each streamer is culled based on poll results

>>24940812
newfagchama.....
Real CCV isn't displayed until post-processing on the analytics page. That's just calling whatever view-count YT has processed for the stream, which can also take 12+ hours to complete.

>>24940881
are you retard and deaf at the same time??

>HoloEN goes on break
>SEA and zhangs invade thread
>IQ at an all time low
>Falseflagging and shitposting returning to its peak
Maybe we should just accept that Gura posters made this thread good…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gngTMSQCtlY
Cute

>>24941379
She can speak CN as well,
so she is EN like NijiEN.

>>24941379
When i heard westerners speak chinese it's always cringe, asian tongue difference i guess.

are there really no streams to talk about?

>>24940104
Thanks!

Last Gura's stream is almost a week ago. Only know that she told her members she's out recording stuff recently but damn...

>>24941590
Salome exhausted everybody lmao.
No upcoming graduations?

How do we save holoen

>>24941590
When elira minecraft struggle to beat zeta eu time zatsudan. Yeah, there nothing to talk about.

>>24940104
> the brrats are wealthier than the saplings.

Which one is the wealthiest fanbase?

>>24941634
>she's out recording stuff recently
new cover, orisong or hologra EN I wonder

>>24941692
make content

>>24941738
Deadbeats in EN

>>24941692
Force them to apply the "3 streams a week" rule

>>24941379
She's the most adorable kid I've ever seen.

>>24941560
It's because the Kobster has a cute voice.

>>24941692
Kiara killed whatever momentum EN had with her "people should take some time off" tenet.
People interpreted this as "go stream at the bare minimum" type of culture instead.
And now it seeps into JP...

about to have 3 ENs overlap over the next hour or so, god damn i fucking love HololiveEN

>>24941590
Seems so, I'm going back playing vidya atm

>>24941975
>god damn i fucking love HololiveEN
unironically the saddest statement if true

>>24941634
Today was a bit of an oddball since no stream + no schedule but this isn’t even remotely out of the ordinary. She had back to back days at a convention which are essentially day long work days. They have to work and prepare from morning till afternoon doing it and she had a members stream 3 days ago.
She has a birthday coming up that she’s preparing for more than anything she has done before it seems, and she does have her recordings now at a studio so she’s gonna be busy some days. But she should be back tomorrow

Rosemi raided Elira and she has really good retention.
Dont think I have seen a single raid have as bad retention as the norm is for twitch

Anything on the holo side to compete with eden gumi new costume and a 3d live with toya as guest?

>>24941954
I don't want to be the last samurai, but JP has had slackers for almost 2 years so don't think it's due to EN or Kiara. Besides, people like Suzy, Subaru or Pekora deserve a rest, not everything is streaming all days for 4 years without taking breaks

>>24942077
WWE Saturday and a bunch of unused Minecraft stream thumbnails...

>>24942092
Isn't desu wa streaming RE again today anyway? And no, for the time being there isn't any gold contender scheduled

>>24942077
FBK stream the next day after a huge concert.....

>>24942304
Friend > Lazy shark

>>24942077
wish she could tell us 'recording so no stream today'

>>24942077
At least do 1 hour zatsudan shork.

>>24942092
If so, i will watch flare's sister new costume then and oliver
>>24942295

I think I lost all hope for the EN market (NA and EU) market to expand it keeps on shrinking. Back to Asia we go then

H O L O E N
O W A K O N
O M E D E T O U

>>24941939
I hope taiwan bros send her more, i want to hear more.

>>24941041
Meds

>>24940176
End of an era...

I wonder how PekoMoon numbers would look nowadays.

>>24942604
Finana..

>>24942304
Friend is friend. I’ve seen countless times where even top JPs would take day(s) off to rest after recordings and offline work. I mean hell, look at Subaru who just snapped and said fuck you to management. Fubuki is just an outlier in the field in all regards. Doesn’t get sick, no health issues, has no qualms streaming multiple times.

>>24941975
NijiEN almost always have multiple streams overlapping in EN hours, so I'm not sure why this is an issue for HoloEN. If their numbers suffer just because of merely 3 overlaps, it's on them. Start growing your fanbase. Otherwise, what'll happen when your desired "EN3" comes? All HoloEN but Gura become 3views?

>>24942604
I feel like they're having totsu every other day at this point....

>>24942831
>become 3 views
Source?

>>24942092
Will either of those beat Salome?

>>24942831
Anon Kronii’s SC readings get more viewers than more than half of NijiEN get on their buff streams. No one cares when 7 people stream to 1-1.5k people.

>>24942814
And to top it all off she still has time to go out on dates with other holomems too
Friend just built different

>>24942604
>5 overlap nijiEN streams and still mogging holoEN
Is nijiEN finally kill holoEN for good? Wha happen holobros?

>>24942604
Any numbers from Finana from before and after the recorder reveal?
That might have irked some listeners.

>>24942908
Numbers are numbers. It's that simple. If NijiEN promotes collab / semi-collab / call-ins, and that keep bringing in numbers, why not? It's not like there is any rule saying that solo stream is more important than those with call-ins.
Holos are welcome to have totsu everyday if they can

>EN overlap, they said
>long dead hours
State of NA/EN hours

>>24942908
Bad at solo, collab brings numbers.

>>24941954
damn, kiara has massive influence huh, shifting the entire company

>>24941377
maybe you know? get some numbaaa before talking
big number > low number is the rule of this thread

>>24942988
Finana has had the immature horny coomer title since debut, the recorder thing wouldn't have changed anything

>>24942831
>Otherwise, what'll happen when your desired "EN3" comes? All HoloEN but Gura become 3views?
Bae might be slightly fucked. She gets hit the hardest with overlaps as it is so if she will have to face multiple overlaps every single time she streams she will be HoloENs midget. Think even Sana has more of her own viewers. The rest will be fine

>>24942814
I love Friend, just like I love Watame and Koyori.
They are superior glorious hags.

>>24943135
>Bae might be slightly fucked
I hope she gets a decent peak in the next 30 minutes because once Kronii starts...

>>24942988
Anon, you dont get Finana's audience.
That would Bring her viewers
Finana's whole point is the cute sweet girl that sometimes says insane coomer shit.

>>24940176
It only takes one year for nijiEN to bring down holoEN down huh? And they did it without the EOP initial fanbase.
Mad respect

>>24942913
There was a clear question mark there, anon. It was a rhetorical question. The point was that Holofags shouldn't complain just because merely 3-4+ streams happen to overlap. That is (or will eventually be) unavoidable.
>>24942931
Why bother complaining if they are still getting better numbers, then? NijiEN can get the crippled "EN Gold" with overlaps, surely HoloEN can afford to do so too?

>>24942988
>recorder reveal
Qrd?

>>24942973
they just didn't want to stream. Now they can finally be forgotten in peace.

>>24943099
I think the only legitimately influence Kiara has had on the JP members as far as work goes is Subaru. Not even schizo rrat, I legit think Kiara opened her eyes to how absurd Japanese work ethic is and that the output is not rewarding for what you put in. Kiara probably works half as much as they do, yet is completely financially stable and gets to go on vacation and be happy setting them up. She’s already gonna go to Korea soon too.
Just like Subaru said in that post, she wants to go on vacation too whenever she wants

>>24943236
>rhetorical
Oh i agree with you then, overlap only happen if any chuuba in same hours makes big event

>>24943135
>She gets hit the hardest with overlaps
Why is that? What does Bae do wrong?

>>24942604
Its over HoloEn isnt the king in the west anymore...
A real shame.

>>24943394
zatsu, shit stream games, shit timeslot with massive overlap

Fauna has a brain and at least plays a game when she zatsus, but one that doesn't require much thought on top of it. Bae just plays things that take too much of her focus and doesn't know how to balance playing and talking. She's also clearly a shut in or something because she literally gets no references and understands nothing. Personally, on top of all this, I find her fucking boring.

>>24943402
not while gura's gone in anycase. She is the true Sovereign of the west, holding HoloEN on her shoulders. Its just a shame that she is a lazy ruler.

>>24943319
Even aside from all the shitposting, doomposting and baiting about HoloEN "dying", it's really weird how they stream so rarely.

It became even more aparent after that anon posted the number of streams after the first 200-something days of JP4, JP5, Myth and Council's existence.

I wonder why that's the case, specifically, with Council.

>>24943277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4nDZTAksLM

>>24943394
Bae is painfully boring for most people. She doesn't have the same way with words that the autist Mumei/Kronii or Fauna with her stories.

salome reminded me of leos and ive been wondering for a while why did leos (and other eden gumis) growth slowed down after the debut buff

1 niji collab getting good numbers all of the sudden holo en is dead? Fuck off, next day they all go back to be 2k shitter.

>Holoen didn't do as good as expected

>>24943677
Its over Bro...

>>24942973
Hard work beat talent when the talent is a lazy fuck.
NijiEN would never have catched up if HoloEN weren't so adverse to streaming.
How can their manager tolerate this amount of zero fuck given?
They are so lazy that they are even trying to get out of making schedule...

>>24943677
Queen, come back and clear this riffraff...

>>24943732
No, not yet

>>24943798
nijiEN didn't "catch" up to HoloEN, they trampled on everything the girls built and replaced it with a CN audience that trickled down a bit

>>24943892
another shitty debuff game...

>>24943677
Not like this, I knew the anti number mentality of Ame would finally bite her in the ass someday.

>>24937544
It's not holofes, it's just Kobo, she brings a whole new audiences from kikebook and normies

>>24943950
its been that way for a while anon, she's finally filtered herself to the point where she has no buff games anymore, she is a council equivalent, and not one of the good ones.

>>24943985
she worked hard for it, hope she's happy

>>24943892
The real Time Holo will Save us.
HoloEN dignity rest on her shoulder

>>24943665
It's not just "1 Niji collab", anon. It's how NijiEN is on track of winning this month crippled gold together (they are what? 3 days away from monthly gold?). In case that isn't clear enough, that meant they will be winning against HoloEN more than 15 times this month.
If anyone tried to suggest that that might happen 6-7 months ago, /#/ would have laughed at and shat on that person. The fact that it is happening is alarming enough for HoloEN.
"But no Gura", "But they are busy" - those excuses matter not. A group can't just rely on one or two individuals to prosper. NijiEN's (crippled) victories weren't all won by Vox or Mysta either. As to HoloEN's streaming frequency, will it ever improve? It's not like they are under some sort of short, busy period. Everything that keep them away from streaming now, will still keep them busy months later.

>>24943402
Honestly, more competition is better for vtuber industry, especially in EN
It's not like HoloEN become some shitter or something

>>24944041
me too, its the bed she has to live in from now on, cause there's no going back.

>>24944092
The NijiEN you are talking about and the current NijiEN are almost completely seperate entities

>>24944111
They're essentially taking Nijisanji's place in Japan, bunch of low shitters ruled by the Queen Gura, who carries them on her back.

>>24943892
>pathless
anon... that's more debuff than any zelda part 33 stream

>>24944092
Ame literally said she had a meeting in 2 and a half hours lol. There's clearly some shit going on behind the scenes. It's honestly funny how people pretend holos stream and only stream, especially when, especially council, has 2 in school, and 1 with literal back problems. The only ones that has no real excuse, except for the fact that her family life is apparently hot trash, is Kronii and Fauna, and Fauna at least attempts to stream often. But she, too, is getting fucked over because of the con weekend. Kronii probably is as well.

>>24944146
Of course, but that doesn't change the fact that they are both called "NijiEN" and are supposed to be HoloEN competitor. Previous NijiEN grew into this, while HoloEN devolved into current HoloEN.

>another meeting and rehearsals
for what exactly? I swear EN management just wastes their time with dumb shit but then again I'm retarded

>>24944245
>There's clearly some shit going on behind the scenes.
I just hope it's EN3

>>24944245
kronii is also in the middle of preaparing to move out.
is a shitty month all around. Few collabs, few streams, few good games.
the qeustion is if june will be better or not.
problem is that holoen projects are a lot but are alos slow as shit.

>>24944092
Buff vs debuff, learn it.

>>24943930
I know all about their circumstance but You and I cant deny that they are all really grinding they want these numbers.
HoloEN has not been streaming for what feel like 3 weeks in a row now.

Tbhonest, gura number of streams are slowing down, she's unmotivated rn

How much are we gonna bet that Alban is going to do a "countdown" in a few minutes or an hour then do the actual birthday stream at JP timeslot in 8 hours after that? Would he do his official birthday 20 hours later, primetime at his own timeslot or not?

>>24944329
Because the NijiEN you are talking about, you know the ones that competed in the same market and had the same timezone issues and the same audience type are still there below sana. The NijiEN you are implying are above HoloEN (which they aren't btw) are in a completely seperate market and do not compete at all outside of this threads cripple olympics

-Only Gura and Ina can regularly get over 10k.
-Only Mumei can occasionally get over 10k
-Kronii plays debuff games.

Are all the big hitters dead for EN.

>>24944092
only 3 niji wins have been regular streams the rest have either been offcollabs, karaoke/singing, or bday/celebration related
>>24921360

>>24944245
There are always "something going on behind the scenes". HoloEN members keep saying how Gura is hardworking, for example. However, it matters not.
Even leaving asides the fact that we haven't seen much of those something's results, it's not like they are going to stop anytime soon - whether it be work (Mori on two identities, Ina, Sana), or health (IRyS, Sana), or university (Baelz, Mumei), or even depression (Kronii). They aren't going to stop being busy (assuming that they weren't lying) behind the scene in at least the next few months, if not years.

>NijiEN on their way to win a literal made up that only matters here cripple gold (I'm not even talking about ther circumstances of this month, they just will win it)
>Suddenly HoloEN is dead
ogey I guess

>>24944092
You're saying as if HoloEN without Gura can't even reach 10k on their own. Just this week iirc, HoloEN without Gura could hit 10k on their own or 8-9k and that's without multiple buff streams while NijiEN had a whole off Collab for two weeks.

>>24944245
EN GOLD mentality right here lol. Kobo destroyed that shit already anon.

Ame raided herself and has 6k waiting for her Elden Ring stream.

>>24944720
6k waiting room?
20k stream incoming?

>>24944605
To be fair, they have plans for off-collabs, even Kiara and Reine has plans for Maldives, the Council one is just a waste of time.

>>24944762
It's elden ring, so doubt it.

>>24944475
Alban is doing a countdown tonight, then sleeping, then doing a 12hr stream from 8AM ET to 8PM ET

If bae can get 5k playing that boring shit indie game i kneel.

>>24944784
are you from the past?

>>24944605
That's true, but again, why should it matter? If NijiEN want to build their identities as the events or collabs-focused group, I don't see any issue with it. Their events / collabs still bring numbers, and are all more or less repeatable, after all. HoloEN are free to do so if they can.
It's not like there is any rule saying that solo streams (or streamers) are more valuable than event / collab streams (or streamers).

>>24944762
nah she's gonna waste it by starting the ER stream late because she need to walk bubba

>>24944784
Any off collab with Kiara will have a lot of content it looks like. Any combination without her will have a 1 hour stream and then 2-5 days of no streams.

>>24943099
Should Kiara really be trying to change Japanese office culture? EN girls aren't under the same amount of pressure as the JP girls.

>>24944839
>>24944862

>>24941379
What the fuck is this accent, it's white people tier.

>>24944117
I know but dang its freaking suck she used to get vods of 200k views fairly easily but now she gotta do an event to get that.
Her last 200k vods is from 3 week ago and it was a 3d stream too...

I won't go as far as NijiHolo but do you think VEE can top VSPO?

>>24944846
no but it adds context. if nijiJP had over a week's worth of 3d debuts and swept a month would you say jp is over?
Also, i would argue there is a limit to how repeatability there is with buff content.

>>24944846
Becasue is a matter of context
you are comparing people doing multiple colabs to others doing Elden Ring episode 20th.

holobroni status?

>>24944793
Kek, that's funny. It'll almost always be near JP timeslots to earn profits.

>>24944762
So now she care about numbers? Took her long enough but a little too late.

>>24945055
HoloEN is a mistake.

>>24945055
There is literally 8 people in the stream on the right...

>>24944605
Isnt that mostly the case for JP golds too? Most HoloJP and NijiJP streams that gets Gold are buffed big streams. Isnt that half the point?

>>24945055
Cumming to Chocho Sensei screams

>>24945115
*9

This thread is stupid. If NijiEN sweeps HoloEN for a week then HoloEN isn't over just like HoloEN smashing NijiEN to pieces in the past didn't kill NijiEN.
You're all suffering from numberrot.

>>24945079
It's a 12hr stream, it hits all the major timeslots

>>24945121
Shhh...you almost end the only purpose for this thread that thrives for 2 years.

>>24945121
its mainly about context since without context numbers just get used for shitposting

>>24944663
>literal made up that only matters here cripple gold
Where do you think the real vtuber golds matter? It is only /here/ and places like /here/. No one else gives a shit. You can't exchange your two golds of the month for anything anon. This is all made up so us spergs can talk about it

Nyoo...

How are you people not all banned after you botted Millie's stream to get her banned lmao
I guess I'll have to fix that

>>24945121
CCV of event streams aren't a good measure of actual popularity, it only tells you how many tourists are visiting. Consistent performers like Gura and Kobo are worth much more than NijiEN's one trick ponies

I regret making gold medals a thing last year... We should've stick to vnuma/vrabi shitposting.

>>24945306
??

>>24945306
>to get her banned
source

>>24945306

>the stream peaked JUST enough, for less than a minute, to slightly pass Fauna before it immediately drops and then later drops further

Honestly, if I didn't know any better, I'd be calling bullshit

>>24945329
Nah. I don't think I would have ever liked King if it weren't for this dumb little horse race.
I see this as a net positive.

the raid is semi broken >>24944698
let's see how this progress

>puts on her outro screen and music at the start of the stream
>some people left thinking the stream is over when they tuned in
>"I did that on purpose"
debuffson is too powerful

>>24945046
Then maybe they shouldn't do Elden Ring episode 20 which is one of the criticisms with all the debuff shit or uninteresting stuff HoloEN has been going through, or hell if they are going for Elden Ring ep 20 or the Patthless/whatever they should stream some buff stuff along said streams not just debuff after debuff (which just creates a recline).

>>24943476
If you don't have the talent you have to work harder and stream more and even then you don't get the numbers actual talent does.

>>24945452
Anon, just don't think about it. You're on terminal numberrot if you care about that.

>>24945525
>if I didn't know any better

>>24945055
Winning
Bae could compete with a fucking collab with just stupid debuff game solo

>>24945499
becuase they do you motherfucker why the fuck do you think ame's median is bigger than all noctyx.

>>24945475
its her coping mechanism for reclining

i see we're at the "why do people care lol" stage
might as well stop doing the thread if you're pulling this shit

>>24945540
she also got 10k with minecraft yesterday and that with only sana showing up.

24k

>>24944663
>NijiEN on their way to win a literal made up that only matters here cripple gold
Lmao anon, listen to yourself. None of this matter. The "real" gold doesnt matter either. It is also made up.

>>24945562
kek

>>24945600
literal 3 view

>>24945222
Goes to show that NijiEN doesn't really have that much of a responsibility other than streaming.

>>24945600
I'm starting to believe you're having fun roasting feesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_MPvKf0IDE

>>24945628
>does one 12hr stream
>"they don't have many responsibilities"

>>24945610
>"Kobo cant count because she is beating Vox"
Nijisis...

>>24945689
She deserves it for streaming ffxiv

oh no no no holoen bros, all your talents are losing to fucking choco. i dont even know who that is, a fucking cocoa bean!

>>24945600
Its over…

I can't believe it's time to finally tell the tourists here something. I thought it was pretty obvious from the start, but it seems like they've been sorely mistaken and that they have a legitimate case of brainrot. Alright, listen closely guys...
Those medal tallies? Yeah, they aren't actually real. It's just tracking done by fans and sites. It doesn't actually do anything, or mean anything.

I know, a shocker. Your life might be falling apart right now from the news. In fact, even the lowest median HoloJP just sold out her limited merch for her Bday and received tens of thousands more in merch and donations. Everyone is living comfortably and doing well. You can do the same too

>>24945719
I mean yeah?
they are just going to play shitty games all day like most of their birthday stream
or what do you mean?

>>24945006
Anon, their strongest chuuba had 1,500 peak viewers for their debut. They'll struggle topping Vsen.

>>24945736
Idc, I literally ditched Ame to watch her and I've been almost an hour hard hearing her

>>24945499
>Then maybe they shouldn't do Elden Ring episode 20
People like you are the greatest cancer to vtubing. Chuubas should finish games especially if they like them, not just chase numbers endlessly. This just leads to endless boring minecraft streams or everyone in the corpo playing the same game instead of different, interesting games.

>>24945752
The only people who takes it seriously is NijiEN I suppose or their managers who's lurking.

>>24945736
aruran you traitor

>>24945752
anon, are you retarded? people already know we're literally playing dolls with millionaires, that's not the fucking point of the thread, stop being a bitch about holoen dying

>>24945736
>playing a horror kusoge at noon
Why is choco such a fucking pussy?

>>24945716
what am i supposed to do with this?

>>24945759
You say that like they can't take care of their responsibilities on another day.

LMAO

>>24945452
It literally doesn't matter. Fungus' unarchived karaoke had already way passed her.

>>24945893
i think that what that anon said is they dont have many respnsabilities

>>24945716
Meh, another cover, who cares? It's going to be shit and no one will listen to it more than a few times. Meanwhile other vtubers are doing actual streams, which makes more people tune in to watch them, growing their channel more.

>>24945499
Speaking of Elden Ring, if I got it right, Ame might go for NG+.
Can't wait for more shitposting.

>>24945125
My man, excellent taste.

>>24945897
>2hr thread vs 39min
are you new?

>>24945752
>Everyone is living comfortably and doing well. You can do the same too
I can't, I'm a literal 25y/o without studies beyond high school, living with my parents, without friends or anything that motivates me in life or future expectations. That's why I spend time watching chuubas and playing games trying to cope with life

>>24945857
>holoen dying
source?

>>24945951
You okay anon? You sound pretty angry and depressed.

>>24946024
anon...

>>24946024
You're at least doing better than the Niji fans here. They can't go 3 posts without comparing themselves to Holos. You're at least a person

I'm curious to see how long Choco can stay ahead of all of HoloEN.

>>24946024
start visiting your local church and join in on all the group activities they have that are free

So... Salome > IRyS?
Both are solo debut vtuber

>>24946146
at least until bae finishes Bae is shoritng her streams becasue she needs to go out qith her mom.

>>24946155
>/#/ of all places actually recommending this
I'm legitimately surprised.

>>24945736
Does Aruran have the glorious chinese flag as a thumbnail?

>>24946024
(me) forgot to say I'm a wagie btw, for some people is better because at least I'm not a NEET but for other is worse because I spend 1/3 of my life doing shit for minimum salary

>>24946197
IRyS had and still has a mountain to climb with the terrible design they gave her.

>>24946197
what kind of insane comparison is this?

>>24946075
Mumei makes me angry, yeah, I'm not going to hide it. The epitome of why white women should not be in vtubing.

>irys f*gs can't use that as an excuse

>>24946197
sure, anon, why not, practically the same after all

>>24946322 (me)
Also, do we have any Irystocrats here?
Has she said anything lately about her outfit? Everyone has gotten new outfits but her delayed one is still missing. How long are they planning on delaying her outfit? She will end up getting it when Council gets their next one.

It's embarassing.

>>24946197
Redjuice.. thank you..

at least combined peak beating choco
we are save holoen bros

>>24946197
Salome could release a song and it would probably outperform all of IRyS's originals, so you're not wrong

frogposters get the rope

>>24946197
I still don’t get Salome
Is she part of some elaborate joke set up by Anycolor or is she really a legit solo debut talent?

>>24946328
both are solo debut vtuber
granted one has insane EN buff and the other got female debuff on male focused vtuber company

>>24946322
Her design is fine, her model is fucking atrocious.

>>24946424
she will get it when Redjuice decides to do it. no one knows when he will get off his ass though

>>24946518
VA hired to do one week of 1 hour streams to put holo in their place

>>24945951
Look at this poster, I just realized that there are some people who want vtuber just to become streamers only like Twitch streamers rather than doing anything else like music

>>24946455
holy shit can people stop being dumbasses about stream choices, i don't give a shit if that indie bullshit is your game of the year or "they should play whatever they like", or "i'd totally watch if you played 8 hours of CIV", they're entertainers, choose better shit to stream jesus

>>24945844
You are in the wrong thread if you think this is about streaming "interesting" games especially when it comes to opinions and I could say that there are tons of fun games over another Dark Souls but now in open world it doesn't means that those games can be fun or interesting to stream.

Gura is among the top vtubers and she drops ton of games including Elden Ring. Finishing a game it's hardly a guarantee towards more interesting streams and better entertainment considering the huge drops in viewers the following streams get.

>>24946322
It's okay anon, when Suisei was shafted into INNK she got absolutely nothing sans a single cover for 6 months.
And look at her now. Believe.

>>24946604
The issue with constantly dropping games is that, if there's no expectation that games will actually get finished, why watch anything except the first stream of the game?

None of you here actually watch streams, you're just refreshing the tracking sites and watching the numbers go up and down.

>>24946618
did you just... compared the goat hoshimati suizei with knock off mexican starfire?

28mins and ame finally clears waiting room peak

>>24946753
tell us something we don't know

>>24946618
Sure, it's not like she's doomed but Cover in 2022 should know better to not repeat past mistakes.

I am hoping her new outfit is being delayed so long because she is going to get major changes in her model (maybe Redjuice will alter her design/artstyle a bit?).

>>24946753
I'm just reading KR manhwas. Memorize kinda scratched that itch.

>>24946753
>this nigga is actually watch stream

>>24946753
HoloEN was a mistake

>>24946464
Can she even sing?

>>24944583
yes, its legitimately over. They are gone, or want to be gone.

>holoen...

>>24946856
Is Fauna Ina-lite

>>24946856
>Rami mogged them all

>>24946349
Mumei had a stream yesterday. At least be mad at a true lazy fuck like Gura.

So what's the explanation for a *solo* nijisanji debut BTFO hololive (for a day at least). Will we see more solo debut in the future?

>>24946618
Except that Suisei was proactive and assertive enough to change things. Meanwhile IRyS is under EN singer label and is completely meek to change things.

>>24946882
irys can sing but look at her number, sad number
meanwhile satome could be sovl tier but her number would be way above irys purely because of popularity alone

>>24946882
If she's a trained seiyuu like I think she is, yes, she can sing at least as well as half of the Hololive girls.

>>24946856
EN gold? EN gold.

>>24946955
Unironically, it was a good joke

>https://www.moguravr.com/vtuber-group-pickup/
Reading this, I just realized how vibrant JP vtuber scene is compared to EN. So many variants of vtubers compared to EN

>>24946753
i watch 3 HoloENs only and tune into graphs that either look strange or large holo events. Granted I did watch Fulgurs karaoke for like 20 minutes, hes not good but he has alright song choice.

>>24947009
yes EN gold was a mistake

>>24946782
So self raid isn't valid if you raid to a waiting room?

>>24945055

honestly i'm surprised fucking va-11 Hall-a is that high.

>>24946753
I only watch most viewed stream at the moment, right now it's Niji totsu.

>>24946536
>EN buff
kek

>>24946955
I watch mostly hololive and I still tuned into the niji debut. The solo vs group debut wasn't the interesting part, I think everyone just wanted to know if it was a joke or not. Plus debuts are not that common to begin with and it's always nice to say you were there at the start.

>>24946753
im back to watching anime or reading manga (and holoJP later)

>>24946955
the best part is, she will get the rest of the gold except the migo outfit one

kek why are these Taiwanese bros so funny?
my oshi is Johnny Depp

>>24947009
Moist's ccv doesn't correlate well with his fame.

>>24947089
bro IRyS got like 500k subs like it's nothing on her 1st week, 90+ ccv during her debut, tell me if that isn't the EN buff, unless you're a baiting retard then don't bother

>nijiENmales currently at 19k for 2 streams
>holoEN currently at 14.4k for 3 streams
lmao

>>24947072
nah it seems to be multiple issues
>>24945473
picrel resulting in delayed start from scheduled time
we've seen premier getting raided and working correctly

>>24946955
They created the hype with jokes about her name. People watch her debut and first stream to check if it's a joke or a real debut
Being solo is helped her to focus the tourists' attention on one person only compared to the usual debut
She is actually good at streaming and it is helping her too

>>24947152
>my oshi is Johnny Depp
Numberfag bro...

>>24947164
he's a YTer first and foremost, not a twitch streamer unlike xqc and other streamers. He's better at content creation

Kobo > Gura

>>24947200
fluke

>>24947200
HOLOKEKS????
HOW DO WE COPE????

>>24947273
Lamy schizo in shambles...

>>24947192
I'm wondering how many instant subs EN 3 will get if they debuted right now. Thinking it might not be as much as Council got but hard to tell.

>>24947200
someone said it was a 9person collab, was that wrong?

>>24947273
doesn't seem like kiara had much negative impact on subaru

>>24947200
Holobro...

>>24947273
cumkek?

>>24947227
>streamers vs content creators
I'm curious how vtubers will evolve. Will they stay as streamers or back as content creators or just mixed both

>>24947273
Rare monster.

>>24947363
is 7 right now

>>24947273
Based hags

>>24947289
I got nothing. I've wanted HoloEN to do a drunk zatsu collab for a long time but it never happened. NijiEN has vastly more work ethic and willingness to collab.

>>24947273
>Pekora is a higher position than Gura even with less time compared to Gura

>>24947416
NijiEN are basically complete streamers.
Holos are still mixed with a lot of content creation.

>>24947273
>twice gura's hours streamed
Also how the fuck did Kobo manage to mog literally all of EN? The next Vox?

The fact of the matter is that it's simply no longer Fall 2020. People have moved on and there are far more choices for EN vtubers now than ever.

>>24947514
lots of content creation... uh, moris music and...

>>24947227
His deadpan/no reaction style doesn't vibe well with zoommer too, at least he's entertaining when he have something to say. Mori tries to emulate this style and well...

i am gonna cope because of holoen small number rn

>>24947484
didn't they already do drunk zatsus
mori x bae drunk review
or the drunk chad cast
you just need to follow mori if you want drunk content

>>24947527
that's irrelevant, HoloEN has simply faded away seemingly of its own choice. There was no fight, just a whimper.

kek even Taiwan numberbros are talking about EN3 after Salome came out

>>24947514
>NijiEN are basically complete streamers.
It's funny that NijiJP actually full of good content creators but the biggest vtuber in NijiJP is a pure streamer

>>24945736
I can't get over how humiliating the difference is for stars numbers. Why do they apply? The dudes aren't doing anything amazing either

ohnononono chocokeks?

>>24947624
Blonds...

>>24947624
>>24945125 (me)
still cumming

holoEN is literally just Gura and whoever decides to play Minecraft if they want numbers