/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

What the fuck is going on in Bae's stream? Why is she getting so many superchats?

Laplus Bday stream up
https://youtu.be/iweIyMqUrt4

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>91,135: Salome (Nijisanji)
>41,930: Laplus (Hololive)
>32,478: Haachama (Hololive)
>29,210: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,764: Hinano (VSPO)
>19,544: Patra (774 Inc.)
>17,710: Botan (Hololive)
>17,175: Elu (Nijisanji)
>17,113: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,826: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,305: VSPO (VSPO)
>13,348: Lui (Hololive)
>13,200: Flare (Hololive)
>12,554: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,511: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,384: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,867: Ike (Nijisanji)
>11,689: Hinano (VSPO)
>11,422: Toko (Nijisanji)
>11,386: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,777: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,157: Watame (Hololive)

Will Bae make more this stream than the rest of the month combined?

>>24890039
Gold contender?

I don't know if I should ask in this thread or in vsinger thread but do you guys know any vtuber song with EDM genre? I want to compile it all on my playlist

>>24890009
She's had a bit of a rant early in the stream about waiting for a reply for an email. There are also SCs from people who attended ACEN.

sykkuno only 12k.... the newest youtube favored baby is doing just as well as any mid range holo

>>24890104
Kobo b2b EN gold

>>24890041
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Salome, Sora, Toya

>>24890148
wasn't he a 20k avg streamer? I guess the twitchbox is real

>>24889870
I'm tired of hearing this as it is 100% wrong.

1. First off, IRyS' numbers have never gone to "crap". She still frequently ranks in the top 50 vtubers on that list that gets posted and gets very respectable numbers when she isn't in a collab. She does get killed in collabs though

2. Her reduction in average/median has nothing to do with her breaks. Back when she was at her peak that was the height of HoloEN Minecraft where everybody was getting huge numbers and she had her 11pm EST timeslot all to herself every single day. Now Minecraft isn't really a thing anymore and she is frequently overlapped by the likes of Kronii/Ame/Mumei/ and Bae. As I mentioned, when she does have the time slot to herself her numbers are very good.

>>24890009
some brats that went to acen were flexing with reds
now the other rich brats are flexing back

>>24890247
>9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
>13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
>23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22

Still pretty funny. Anyone got the #s for her previous WWE streams?

>>24890247
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
101x: Hololive
34x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata
4x: Marine, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Salome, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Unity?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBil9lpFPI0

>>24889410
The original unity thing was mostly anti JP shitpost from early global. Something something like "this bitch isn't collabing with Myth? fucking heresy, bow to your high number overlords". Do you not believe me? Archives nigga.

>>24890302
Holy fuck the Koreans flew to America just to see Bae? Jesus. She needs to fucking stream more during Korean hours. Those gooks are obsessed with her.

>>24890278
switching platforms is a big leap for some people they wont bother, especially if its for one specific content creator without the rest of his playmates.

>>24890111
Blue Clapper

>>24890009
>WAH I'M STRESSED GUYS
>Some dude drops a max aka
>Others follow in response
>OH MY GOD STOP SUPERCHATTING ME
>they continue
>starts to read them instead of playing the game

Oldest trick in the fucking book

>>24890411
nah popcon need to get their act together and get bae and kiara to come

>Bae made like $5k in 20 min
Jesus. Almost exclusively akasupas too

>>24890411
HoloKR when? untapped $$$ market...

>>24890463
I'd laugh if the korean kfp campaign to get them into the con works.

>>24890286
As a loyal IRyStocrat you are 100% correct. One thing you missed though is that was also when she was doing weekly karaoke streams which were guaranteed big numbers. She doesn't do those anymore of course.

>>24890475

>>24890456
B-but I thought Council hates SCs?

This is already Bae's third most superchatted stream ever.
Only behind the SC monetization and her birthday stream lmao

>>24890456
Mean while Ame is baiting SC in ER.

>>24890595
Bae fucking dirty pandered to koreans after getting paid by them, there was no way in fuck she hated SCs.

>>24890595
>two superchat reading streams today
>hates SCs
yeah

So
Kobo crippled gold?

>>24890632
>SC in ER
how does that work?

>>24890632
>baiting SC in an unmonetizable stream
Are you fucking stupid.

>>24890640
>Reading SCs for 2 hours with them off instead of just keeping them on and getting more
Eh

>>24890699
>>24890161
>KOBO EN GOLD
KOBO EN GOLD
>KOBO EN GOLD
KOBO EN GOLD

>>24890701
>>24890734
Watch stream retards, she was saying SC baiting phase in an un-monetizable stream. That's the joke goddammit

>>24890438
Best Hololive song

>>24890734
The first one was a joke, the second one is if you're greedy and you want extra cash.

Hachamaa live on twitch
https://www.twitch.tv/akaihaato_hololive

What is the email about? Is she sending it to management or is it something unrelated to Hololive.

A reminder.

>>24890334
29.791 The first and 36.769 the second according to Vrabi

Togashi got 1M likes on his first post now, KFC/Among Us/Mr Beast are among the popular ones that I recognize.

>>24889799
can't wait to repeat this once Gen 3 debuted and mogs the fuck out of Gen and HoloX

Haachama is an unironic unity fag. That's surprising

>>24891017
Imagine falling for another boat arc
this time they won't get off the boat

>>24891096
Gen 5*

wait, sana still alive?

>>24891017
How many hours? That's a lot considering that it's been how many years now since the last update?

>>24891096
Glass cannon >>24889410

enter bogan debuff

Sana on Bae

Would Luxiem be a good entry gate for new viewers into vtubing or is it always going to be Gura?

>Haachama suddenly went from 2,5k to 1,5k and recovered 20 seconds after
Even her Twitch is cursed, the world can't stand Haachama's power

>>24890286
Two things hurt her numbers: dropping her weekly Minecraft streams and her throat problems forcing her to stop her weekly karaokes. Those two things together gave IRyS eight 10k streams a month last year.

>>24890948
Doubt they communicate with their managers through emails instead of Discord / text messages

>>24891326
>Two bottoms get their bussies fucked today!
>Let me tongue your ear ASMR
>Roleplay streams
>Men
Anon…

>>24891326
Absolutely, many Luxiem fans are letting their kids watch Vox ASMR as a way to help those kids fall asleep.

ironmouse is watching chammers

Wtf happened to Mumei's chart?

>>24891376
She used to sing 9-10 songs in her karaokes. I doubt that's worse than 6-7 hours of streaming or 3 hours of grunting and screaming while playing Switch Sports. Her weekly karaokes were just a debut hype thing that she couldn't maintain

>>24890338
I will burn down Anykara's offices if this Oujo-sama is used for just a one time joke.

>>24891503
What do you mean?

>>24891503
fauna raid

>>24891531
Why is it that every female vtuber from Nijisanji feels so high quality?

4 vshojo in Haachama chat, she just accepted ironmouse invitation to her talkshow

>>24890411
Crazy fucker is going to fly to Australia too lol

is sex with 20,000 men slut gold? can any vwhorejo compete?

>>24891508
God that switch sports stream was so fucking good.

>>24891956
Hard disagree only because there was only a single memorable part of that stream and only because it's a reoccuring thing of hers where she hates normalfags in relationships

niji gold
>niji gold
niji gold
>niji gold
niji gold
>niji gold

>>24892021
Well you just confirmed you have no taste

>>24891890
It's like a plague descending on her lol

>>24891890
>People think it's HoloEN that would open the door VShojo into HololiveJP collab
>It's fucking chammer

How will /jp/ cope?

>>24892070
It was mid just like all her gaming streams

God i hate twitch chat.

>>24891326
For women?
Probably

>>24892112
It was Mori's recommendation

>>24891890
I hate vwhorejo. Leeches comes in pack.

GODDAMIT CHAMMERS
At least Gura won't collab with whores... Right????

kson's "no holo collab for a year" almost up. She will collab with chammers on twitch. My pillow said so

>>24892112
I mean it's Haachama, so who gives a shit? Anyone that made it through the schizo arc shouldn't care. Maybe it'll help her revitalize her channel.

>>24890948
Doubt she would rant about something Hololive related where someone would see it and get offended. It's probably a doctor or something.

>>24891191
21 hours
Also looking at his twitter he’s already gotten 1.1 million followers despite having only two twitter updates on hxh right now

>>24892257
How close she is with chamma anyway?

>>24892507
He meant KSon

>>24892349
She'll get bored of it anyway after 2-3 twitch streams, like everything she does.

>>24892566
Miko is the only one streaming over there every week right?

ChamaS

Bae made 800K yen with her minecraft stream

>>24892668
How come no vwhores begging her yet?

It looks like Bae's email got accepted, whatever that it.

>>24892742
>Miko
>English

>>24892742
Haachama sent them DM before the stream, it wasn't exactly unprompted

>>24892742
Miko speaks 0 english

Here comes the unity/ beggars shitting up the catalog..... No twitchards wanna collab with niji en or something?

>>24892853
I mean niji jp and en.

>>24892853
Unity!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBil9lpFPI0
>>24891747

>>24891890
disgusting

>>24892698
>>24892803
Happy for the rat

>>24892698
>Makes more in 30 min than most NijiENs girls make in a month
Kek, there are levels to this shit

>>24893030
Why are they superchatting the lazy HoloENs rather than the hardworking NijiEN?

>>24892698
Any particular reason?

>>24893189
Who?

Uyu just ended, prepare for a massive funnel

>>24893226
Elira, Fianna, Pomu, Rosemi, Selen, Millie, etc. Basically all of the girls in NijiEN

Sana's very existence is a debuff. Bae actually lost viewers when Sana came on. From a solo stream.

>>24893421
Bae alone already maxed out the aus viewers

>>24890039
Birthday,,, karaoke? That's pretty rare. Well since it's birthday it means there won't be any JP overlap so it should do pretty well.

>>24893421
No she didn’t. She was at 9.2k ish when Sana came on and remained there/climbed up to 9.3k again. She was down to 9k a bit before that too

>>24893421
>Bae actually lost viewers when Sana came on.
Bae was bleeding viewers when she stopped playing to read superchats for 20 minutes

>>24893217
Brats missed her from the convention
They throw akasupas, other viewers watching her join in

>>24893568
The drop was from Kronii starting, look at when she starts to lose viewers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isY8x04Tu8A
Umm?

Now that I think about it, Bae and Sana's appearance at SMASH might be quite weak when it comes to attendance.
These two are the weakest amongst HoloEN and the con takes place in Aussie, so no strong audience.

>>24892951
>and they dont shut down the entire branch for a country because some of their fans were mean
Yeah, but they did it because they don't have enough paypigs instead.

>>24893394
You picked like the only ones (a few of them atleast) that gets pretty good superchats

>>24893676
That's a good bait not gonna lie

>>24893324
Speaking of uyu, how the fuck did this guy manage to get perms to stream persona 4 golden?
https://youtu.be/TgXVT7W9_9g

>>24879234
Blatant lies are not "bait" they're called FUD.
Correcting them once is the proper thing to, after which you just call them a retard.

>>24893683
SMASH is around 20k attendance I think, but it's a true testament on how well just Bae and Sana can pull for the panel.

>>24893551
Well she can't do a 3d live yet so a karaoke is the closest thing she do lol

>>24893676
Thank fuck real good quality ASMR and not the garbage that Fauna releases

>>24893683
On the other hand how many anime cons does Australia have? It's kind of a captive audience.

>>24893816
Or maybe Cover already got the perm from Atlus along with 2k, but nobody in Holo want to touch P4.

>>24893816
Shinove love

>>24893816
It'll probably be "All months except the last".
Also, the unfortunate truth is that Persona is streaming numbers poison, so RIP this dude's numbers.

>>24893683
They could have probably replaced Sana with someone like IRyS but you know: no one left behind and all that shit.

>>24893676
>copying milord
disgusting...

>>24893816
Shinove is a hell of a manager

>>24893984
Associating people to actual bugs, you disgusting chink

>>24893955
IRyS already has a panel appearance with Kiara. I tihnk its only Mumers who's not attending any conventions in the next couple of weeks

>>24894044
mutts and bugs are not so diffferent

>>24893951
I mean, his number is literally 3view, I doubt P4G could make it lower

>>24894082
2VIEW TERRITORY LET'S GO!

>>24894077
Kek fucking bugs

>>24893676
My, that's a coomer thumbnail. I'll say 8k considering she's overlapping with Kiara.

>>24893683
they also aussies I guess they might have some kind of local buff

>>24893816
Shinove is a literal god of management, I particularly remember one time Oga was streaming and someone in chat recommended a game and Oga was like
>I would like to try, we will see if we can play
and Shinove was in chat and he was like
>I'll look into that
like an hour later he came back with the permissions and Oga talked about scheduling it soon

>>24893955
God, I find that strategy really annoying, the whole nobody gets left behind. In the end, the company will only have deadweights.

>>24894210
In a normal company, I'd agree.
However, Hololive has set itself up in such a way that that image is pretty important, so as long as the # of deadweight isn't too big....
This is why we need EN3, to dilute the %deadweight in the en branch.

>>24894194
Seriously, I think the reason Stars could survive this long beside Yagoo's persistence is partly due to Shinove sheer management skill

>>24894337
Council is like a gen with 2 Mels and 3 Akis.

>>24894403
Not it isn't you retarded faggot.

>Kanata's next stream is doing Switch Sports with Rurudo

Does Kanata even knows the definition of debuff streams these days? She has been on fire after her return especially after her sex costume it's like she also went through some hyperbolic time chamber.

>>24894437
Yeah, Mel and Aki actually get sponsorships and collab goods.

>>24888548
Cover was probably disappointed as well, notice that around December they changed the auditions to be more like the JP auditiions (permanently open) and put Omegay into cryosleep.
Pretty sure the JP folks who scouted myth have taken over recruitment for EN3.
Expect a miracle gen.
also Susan will release the cull when EN3 starts.

>>24894403
Mel still doesn't have a single video on her channel with over a million views. After 4 years.

>>24894453
holy shit my dick won't survive her stream....

>>24894550
loveratory is doing it good at this rate mori will steal her 1M virginity

>>24894453
Oh my god
My dick

>>24894664
isn't vampire going to get there before it

>>24894550
And? She is still a bigger success than Council.

>>24894514
my guess is that they are using tiktok to bring someone, they are trying to get someone fresh, like Kobo

>>24894488
Unless you're advocating for the talents to do the job of the managers in getting them sponsorships, then I'm not entirely fucking sure where you're going with this

>>24888698
watch as Mori completely ignores Persona after this.

>>24894781
She specifically wants to play 3. Unless they have blanket Atlus permissions then it's a whole lot of nothing for her.

>>24894453
I think the break renewed her motivation, and seeing Towa's breakout among the Apex circle and collabs probably lit a fire under her. I think she's getting a lot of advices from kson/Marine when it comes to streaming contents.

>>24890247
i just got back here after taking a self imposed 1 week break, who the fuck is salome?

>>24894781
What do you expect her to do?
EN managers can't hold a candle to Shinove

>>24889410
some of the old sentiment about EN potentially destroying Hololive's culture still remains.
JPfags were tolerant about ENs after the initial shitposting settled down, but with two people who have an active bf already on the roster and Mori progressively becoming worse, things are looking a little bleak again.

>>24894863
Kanae alter-ego/joke character

>>24894781
She doesn't really have time to do long JRPGs anyway. Maybe if they got blanket Persona permissions but I'm skeptical of that.

>>24894720
Trying to get a tiktoker for the gen is a bad idea. It's better to hire an experience clipper than to get that into a sought out spot. Just get streamers from smaller agencies like Amiya from Tsunderia.

Ame didn't raid Bae and
Mumei didn't raid Ame, so I guess Ame was one of the few that said no to the raids

>>24893189
It's a quality over quantity kind of thing.
Also, Holomems have tons of obligations that are not just limited to streaming. Streaming hours is not a metric for streamer's work ethic nor productivity.

i'm not a numberfag, but how does kobo get so many views? she has like third the subcount of someone like amelia or kiara and gets double, sometimes triple their average views.

>>24894691
it's in a "hit any second now" for weeks it's growing really slow but it's a funny cripplie race

>>24894987
It's like people forget that there have been many a time where the girls have mentioned having to go to meetings for who the fuck knows what

>>24894977
That's weird since she's the only who brings up other member streams when she's ending hers

>>24895012
It's quality over quantity.
Kobo is a good entertainer. If you compare her to the streamers that belong in Nijisanji then it becomes more apparent.

>>24894975 (me)
Just to clarify, I'm not saying they should get a clipper for the new gen, just a clipper for their tiktok accounts. They aren't bound by copyrights anyway on Tiktok, so someone like Soju or Meimei clips could dish out meme short videos easily.

>>24895012
Became popular in Indonesia. As far as subs go, the older an account is the more of the subs are inactive, so that doesn't really mean that much.

>>24894833
Has she said if she wants to play OG 3? Or FES? Or Portable?

>>24895012
Kobo is literally the best entertainer they've hired for a side branch since Gura and she doesn't have Gura's laziness. You make your own conclusions from that.

>>24895187
FES iirc

>>24894975
All of indie vtuber and vtuber from smaller agencies prefer NijiEN nowadays. I think Anykara's strategy of starving Hololive might be working better than we thought.

>>24895351
>source: trust me bro

Kobo is 5k away from reaching 600 subs, literally much faster than Vox at his height.

>>24895385
>source: trust me bro
>go on Twitter or small indie streams and they talk about how they prefer Niji's chill streamer culture vs Holo's toxic idol culture
>Indies would rather collab with Niji than Holos
>Small agencies even prefer to copy Niji's system
Why are Holofags like this

>>24895012

>>24894938
Why kanae though?

>>24895459

>>24895497
Proof ne-
You know what, fuck it
I want proof, right fucking now

is it fun to samefag your own stale baits?

>>24895497
>Small agencies even prefer to copy Niji's system
niji system is just streaming with avatar. it's easy to copy

>>24895497
>go on Twitter or small indie streams and they talk about how they prefer Niji's chill streamer culture vs Holo's toxic idol culture
If you believed that, then I got monkey jpegs you might be interested in anon

>Small agencies even prefer to copy Niji's system
Which system? Are you claiming collab is "Niji system"?

>>24895459
with how SEAniggers typically behave i thought she would milk these milestones, but i guessed wrong. Are Nijimales just especially shitty people??

>>24895351
Saying "all vtubers" doesn't mean much in the context that only 0.1% of all vtubers are relevant anyways.
What's more important I think is the quality of applicants that apply to these companies and it's safe to say that Hololive dominates in this department.

>>24894720
Someone from tiktok who is a hag might probably work.
Tiktok's zoomer infestation will likely filter the recruitment team, but an actual hag with some presence of mind might do quite well for herself in EN3.

>>24895581
If indies prefer the Niji style, let them. Cover can probably find a bunch of people outside of the industry and give them success.

>>24895012
Wow this is nearly Gura level, and even more impressive considering her CCV/view ratio, which might be higher than Gura. That indicates either lots of VOD watchers (tourists or global fans) and/or substantial CCV cull.

>>24895012
her vods often trending in indonesia

>>24895524
See >>24873657

>>24895497
> vtweeters with zero content
> ever being in contention for any corpo

>>24895524
Probably that's what he wanted for his 1M subs reward.

slowly creeping in

>>24895672
Charli Damelio for EN3 confirmed?

>>24895497
Didn't Pippa shit on Nijisanji members for being fake? I don't think there's a more credible viewer than her.

>>24895626
Anon, even exID nijis except Mika are never as shameless as NijiCN

>>24895497
>A bunch of talentless nobodies constantly whine and have sour grapes over the talents making 7 figures in Hololive
wow shocking

>>24895524
from what i got yesterday, her name is a pun on 1mil and Kanae recently hit 1 mil subs
+ some people said he is very good at voice acting or something?
stil think they just grabbed someone from the office to do it

>>24895685 (me)
>CCV/view ratio
I meant views/CCV ratio
>tourists or global fans
and by tourists I include those coming from clips

>>24895730
wasn't Shu's stream in NA time? he's getting there

>>24895012
Local audience.
She has also mogged the entire EN branch of their competitor multiple times which having barely 5-10% EN audience.

>>24895751
She is a literal schizo who burns bridges. I mean, her relationship with coworkers might even be more fake.

>>24895685
It's probably VOD watchers. Lots of kids probably aren't awake when she streams so they watch the VOD. Or they don't have good enough wifi for the stream so they watch the VOD.

>>24895811
as by-product, she's also mogging the lazy whores

>>24895811
>barely 5-10% EN audience
so the same as them and why does it matter that she has low EN audience

>>24895626
anon, you literally can't name any corpo streamer that milks milestones more than Luxiem.

>>24895805
Luxiem is getting a sizable NA audience when their fame from Asia starts to get the attention of famous Twitch streamers.

>>24895626
NijiCN are built special

>>24895497
AND LITERALLY TO NOBODY'S SURPRISE; VTWEETERS AND INDEBEGGARS CAN'T ENTERTAIN WHILE MAINTAINING PROFESSION, just guerilla orgies with in Nipplesanji, literally no effort, and you're good to go

IMAGINE MY SHOCK, lole

>>24895879
>blue cunny being powerful
color me surprised

>>24895829
She's more credible than vtweeters though. Hell, even the Niji talents themselves keep mentioning Holo members just to catch their attention. Didn't Mysta at one point call Petra "Gura"?

>>24895879
They are lazy but they are still getting rewarded by Cover. I wonder why that company still exists when they give out stuff like crazy.

>>24895805
That's actually pretty impressive ngl
I know Vox gets complete ass numbers when streaming in NA times
Unpacking is a zatsu game, so I assume that Shu's good at that?

>>24895879
same company, what is the issue? glad she is doing well

>>24895897
Because she's not in EN branch unlike Niji"EN"?

>>24895805
I mean, wouldn't you rather look at a majority english chat than 90% chinese. He's slowly getting there for sure

>clinging into ID
rumao

>>24895976
Can you imagine the seething when Luxiem becomes big in both Asia and NA? They are already getting invited to a NA convention so it only goes up for there.

>>24895976
dunno about the content but his SCs are mostly JPY and HKD https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/realtime/superchat/6EEp6rlllmM.html

>>24896026
Shu is already friends with Sykkuno and Corpse so their fans just migrate to him.

>>24895962
Wrong orange guy, it was alban who then sperged out after it happened instead of laughing it off or pretending it never happened

>>24895897
The difference is that Kobo hit the target audience, the ID market while NijiEN is still shooting blanks

>>24896046
they won't acknowledge that, they never do, they will always find a way to downplay their success but it's slowly creeping in
remember when they called no audience for nijiEN males?
or when they were on debut buff so it didn't count?
or that you should call them when they got over any holoEN?
or that they would never get global gold?
or that their graphs looked funny so didn't count?
they are almost on their last bastions for EN with literally only Gura in front

>>24896046
They are kinda big in NA already anon

>>24896091
yeah, ike and shu has some JP audience so i think it;s just JP neetfujos.

>>24895879
I think it was a big mistake for Nijisanji to abandon the ID market. I get that they're trying to cull their non-performing members to make their company look more appealing to the public, but I feel it's such a disservice to the hardworking content creators.

>>24895962
NijiEN girls keep trying to get the attention of HoloEN by constantly replying to their tweets

>>24896142
Holy cope
Can't wait to broke your mind sometimes next month when Kobo passes Vox sub count

>>24896142
But the thing is that Cover won't scrap that branch no matter how much they underperform though.
I just can't get that saving mentality at this point.

>>24896046
Eh wasn't niji EN already invited to conventions before luxiem? Honestly hard to imagine most of luxiem gaining much of a NA audience when they pander to asians, like nearly always streaming at bad times for NA

>>24896091
Shu's the one with a significant JP fanbase, right? Or was that Ike?

>>24895962
also Millie tweeting HoloJP and said she was looking at Kobo's schedule

>>24896129
>>24896002
yea i misread that comment

>>24896221
they need it for PR
>we have 40 bajilion subs on our english branch pls give money

>>24896181
>I get that they're trying to cull their non-performing members
Thats the thing though dont they still have a lot of 3views in their ranks?

>>24896238
They both has sizeable nips audience, but Shu has a bit more

>>24896046
kek even 2views got invited to conventions anon.

>>24896203
Just trying to offer an olive branch, if those HoloEN girls don't take it, it's on them.
HoloEN is the only branch to keep the walled-garden strategy and it's slowly destroying them.

>>24896312

>>24894938
But Kanae deny that Salome is him

>>24896312
it's saving them from the disaster that is the EN scene

>>24896312
But thats whats weird to me though? people say that nijien girls is slowly climbing up but they still havent broken the sana wall

>>24896238
If anything NijiEN got downgraded.
They were invited to Anime Expo last year but not this year (at least as of now).

>>24896343
Technically he's telling the truth because somebody else, likely a VTA member is voicing Salome

>>24896312 22:20:51
>>24896350 22:21:51
...

>>24896046
I mean with that latest shoutout from lionmaker and that cross collaboration with edp445 things are really going well for them

oh wow its real retard hours in here now

Is Kobo the new queen of /#/

>>24896414
Does salome’s voice even match the voice of that one remaining female vta member?

>>24896462
Maybe when she wins a real gold.

titktok update
Gura at 40k

>>24896483
might be a different officemate

>>24895497
RORU
RUMAO
All of those things that you pointed only happened because HoloEN won't give a fuck to those beggars and the idol style is hard to copy because they can't be blunt with their sex jokes

>>24896312
>HoloID and NijiID collabed many times without problem
>HoloID somehow couldn't collab with NijiEN
>"Hurr durr this must be HoloEN's fault"
Can you interpolate from the evidences faggot?

>>24896363
their incline is mostly incidental due to random strays from the guys audience and lots of VC collabs
>>24896449
meh i only made the reply, coincidence

>>24895497
>prism copies hololive
>partnered with Sony

>isegye copies hololive
>becomes the biggest vtuber gen on twitch

>vshojo and nijisanji
>phase connect, tsunderia, that group where athena went. All failed

whichj is stronger bday karaoke or bday costume reveal

>>24896208
"Well, Kobo Wasn't Exactly 'The Demon'. ' She Was The One You Sent To Kill The F***in' Demon"

>>24896512
Whoever it was, very likely she has streaming experience

Meanwhile ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfGGNhlRQ60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfGGNhlRQ60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfGGNhlRQ60

I don't get chamma sometime ...

>>24896363
People just do not wanna watch an ESL do streams for an EN branch.

>>24896509
Councilbros...

>>24896615
Even us, Haaton, couldn't glimpse what's on her mind most of the time.

>>24895497
I agree holobeggars really are pathetic going to threads and topics unrelated to them and try to hijack and shill in them

>>24896497
Kobo's best chance was at debut, but even if she wasn't being overlapped by JP, I doubt she would've beat Startend that day.
(Though I'm still salty that Cover still doesn't consider debuts are company-wide event blocks, since it's arguably the most important stream of a vtuber's career.)

>>24890148
>>24890278

nah it's just closer to his real numbers without the low quality spam views that twitch allows

>>24896615
that is your brain on warp

>>24896693
Startend didn't streamed on the day Kobo debuted
She lost to Sanbaka concert

>>24896509
Nice, only 65k behind Mori now.

>>24896567
>JP no1
>idol company hololive
>NA no1
>idol company hololive
>ID no1
>idol company hololive
>KR no1
>idol group Isegye Idol
>CN no1
>idol group A-SOUL
really makes you think huh

>>24896821
>TW no1
>church of hololive

>>24896821
>idol group A-SOUL
not anymore

>>24896775
Kobo's debut overlapped with Startend:
https://vrabi.net/daily/2022-03-27

>>24896509
Fuck tiktok. I love Gura but I'm not signing up to that shit

>>24896893
my bad
I think I need some memory supplement

>>24896893
Nice, Zeta is the only holoh3ro to win gold.

>>24896821
CN no.1 would've gone to HoloCN if B2 & A-Soul didn't deploy the wumaos to agitate and create propaganda. A-Soul and HoloCN could've cooperate side by side.

>>24896582
Demon lord!

Did anything even happen after that report came out about all the abuse and shit pay the A-Soul chuubas get? I assume nothing really changed since it's China.

>>24897125
Looking at the mess that is chink chuuba scene, I'm glad Cover pulled from that market

>>24897185
>Did anything even happen
>china
pick one
didnt one of the chink chuubas get kidnapped and werent there 3 others who got visited and disappeared?

>>24897268
That's some wild shit, she's lucky the police managed to find her before being shipped to god knows where
Scary stuff

>>24897268
>chink chuubas get kidnapped and werent there 3 others who got visited and disappeared
WTF is happening there?

>>24897368
What isn't happening in China? That "country" is all kinds of fucked up even by third world standards.

>>24897368
one of them went against the mandated party lines (said something along the lines that the lockdown was going a little overboard and that covid will never disappear) and was forced to graduate

>>24897368
nothing you should concern yourself my friend

it's funny how vtweeters talking about hololive being restrictive but it's actually depends on the chuubas themselves whether they would coomerbait or not. example is suisei taking down the lewds because her parents are seeing it.
Susan's bullshitery is one of the factors too as they demonitize the channels not favoring them in algorithm if do so. look how fucked up hachama's channel now in results of her fuckery.

>>24897368
Human trafficking
I believe some ethnic minorities there is very much sought after
got a chance to interview ethnic turk/uyghur prostitutes back in 2019 and all of them are victims of human trafficking

>>24897368
those organ recipient can't wait much longer

>>24897516
It's fucking vtweeters, they don't know shit about the industry

>>24892195
If they're BTS stans maybe but aren't most women repulsed by the fujo-pandering crap? I would say VOX is a terrible introduction to anyone other than a chink with a serious case of white-fever.

>Kronii and Ame Morbius watchalong
Easy EN Gold, I'm expecting 1 morbillion ccv.

>>24897421

>>24897421
Cities in China are determined by Tier levels, only tier 1 and 2 (highest tiers) you only often see or hear in the news or images when searching about china. Below those 1 and 2 tiers, are shit and poor as fuck, even worst than 3rd world SEA neighbors, those tiers 3-5 are much more dangerous and often recommended not to go there if you're tourist, that's where human organ selling and kidnapping often happen.

Man seeing Choco-sen getting 5k viewers doing karaoke while some indie vtubers getting 50 people max reminds me how cutthroat vtubing is

>>24897593
Why are women like this? The movie fucking sucks

>>24897590
I mean im assuming they are targeting the kpop audience and not the normies

>>24897658
Morb about it

>>24897658
>woman
that's the only answer

>>24897658
tbf bad movies are more fun to watch with your friend than good movies

>>24897658
>he cant morb

>>24893632
She could get high supas on a regular basis had she actually encouraged it, same with whole holo EN really.

>>24897528
Did you get some?

>>24897368
Just China thing
Used to have stories of tourists getting their organs harvested illegally and I'm quite sure they are still infamous with human trafficking with the main purpose of illegal organs harvesting till this day.
Disappearance of people opposing the CCP is a norm too it seems.
There are rrats that the CEO of Alibaba, Jack Ma was kidnapped by CCP because he went against CCP.
There are rrats that political prisoners got their organs harvested illegally.

>>24897634
you know what is unfair/sadder?
last night's cocone singing collab, her last one before graduation didn't even break 500 ccv.

>>24897818
the tourist harvesting thing died down ever since they wanted to promote china as a tourist spot
same with the political prisoner one since foreigners have eyes on them already
the others yeah its still happening

>>24897845
Seeing how fucking brutal indie chuuba scene is made me a little bit sympathetic to that 2view schizo
It's absolutely soul crushing, they're literally screaming into the void that is yt algorithm

>>24897818
>There are rrats that the CEO of Alibaba, Jack Ma was kidnapped by CCP because he went against CCP.
Is that even a rrat, everyone knows that the CCP got him. they're pretty much sending a message that not even the richest man of China go away unscathed because he opposed the CCP

>>24897933
twitch is worse imo, at least on yt I occasionally get recommended them. Twitch has thousands of 2views who will never gain relevance.

>>24897634
Choco getting 5k in karaoke stream
>man hololive is really a powerhouse
HoloEN not getting 5 gazillion ccv in karaoke stream
>EN IS A FAILURE NUKE THAT BRANCH DOWN THEY'RE IRRELEVANT
the duality of /#/

>>24897845
Wait so the group is no more? I remember the other one also left back in 20
there was a rrat last year about how a corpo was courting her and kasane though so maybe that was real

>>24898039
Choco is a busted up old hag who has specifically mentioned that she is in the dating game and has zero gachikois. Not the same as the ENs who all claim to be pure and have a much bigger market than Japanese Holos.

>>24898039
The "playing the victim card" is reserved for us Nijifags
Fuck off.

>>24898039
>eop newfriends
not even once

>>24898039
I mean if fucking coco can get 5k in her karaokes then i dont see the reason why en cant do better than her

>>24898069
yeah, they're disbanding cocotsuki
kasane will continue as indie
wouldn't be surprised if she got a record deal or something. it doesn't sound like she will reincarnate as v.

>>24898163
>Comparing culled number with unculled one
This is why noone likes last samurai like you.

Persona 5 permission when?

>>24898163
All of them get more than that for their karaokes

>>24898003
I agree
Im actually happy that my 2view chuuba gained 15 subs and 2 more consistent viewers this week and hopefully by this weekend she will celebrate her 200 sub count after 3 years in the scene

>>24898129
>EOP
Try ESL, he couldn't even understand the post he was replying to

>>24898236
then why the fuck is that retard complaining then?

>>24898163
>5k = 5 gazillion
your math reps...

>>24898163
Has there ever been an EN that has gotten less than 5k CCV in karaokes? I'm genuinely curious.

Is Morbius the modern version of The Room?

>>24898039
Not really, context matter. As much as I might love Chocosen and Holo members in general, she is definitely one of the older and least popular Hololive members. Her getting 5k would be similar to Sana getting 5k, but 2 years from now and after HoloEN getting dozens more new members. It's impressive.
HoloEN is (1) still relatively fresh and (2) has a big market, with much fewer competitors (HoloEN or NijiEN). HoloEN members are in much better / easier situation and in theory, should get better results.

>>24898227
holostart management >>>>>holoEN management

>>24898275
I dont remember but ID branch has a couple i think that does below 5k karaoke regularly

>>24898276
the acid trip version of twilight but everyone's a homosexual

>>24898267
He thinks cutthroat means powerhouse or something similar and >>24897634 was praising Choco as someone powerful compared to some random indie while having a victim complex at the same time

>>24898326
I dare say Shinove is better than even holojp managers

>>24898393
Men are always better than women at everything, even vtubing.

>>24898203
>kasane will continue as indie
Good for her honestly
On that note I wonder what Nobuhime is doing right now and I wonder if she will ever go back to being a vtuber

>>24898227
hopefully never. i had to force myself to play it a second time with Royal since it had so much needles dialogue in it. even the skip funktion barely fucking helped. shits a chore to play and i can't imagine its much more fun to watch.

>>24898340
Yeah, Iofi's last karaoke got 2.3k although that was overlapped to hell with Moona's karaoke and more

>>24898430
i dunno about nobuhime and luna but i still have not spotted tsukine anywhere. almost two years

>>24898430
>Nobuhime
Anon...

>>24898241
congrats to your 2view. 200 subs is pretty good. how long have you been watching her for? the entire 3 years?

>>24898430
>nobuhime
Uh…

>>24895524
Because he had plans of doing something like this as a prank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk-ye_fjHjA

He denied that this was him though.

>>24895351
Indies that tend to declare how they would rather join niji because they have more freeeeedum (but totaly want to stay indie) are not recruitment material anyway it's only for the best if they don't apply (they often do though).

>>24898532
she better stream biohazard 7 tonight

>>24898430
Anon... your reps...

>>24898430
>I wonder what Nobuhime is doing right now and I wonder if she will ever go back to being a vtuber
my man here being old and newfag at the same time

>all those replies
*SNIIIIIIIFFF
Smell like ESL in here!

do newfags really miss the subtlety of that question?
nta, but do i need to explain it?

>>24896312
> olive branch
You're talking as if they're currently in a state of
> all out war
or something.

>>24898430
O Anon, I hope you're joking...

>>24895879
as a JPchad I do not mind this at all.

>>24898532
Weren’t there a bunch of people who also overlapped her debut last night? If kanae was streaming over her last night then he’s automatically ruled out as salome’s “true identity” or something

>>24898662
Is she even in niji's registered trademarks? There's a list posted here weeks ago.

>>24898662
It doesn't take a detective to deduce that Salome VA isn't Kanae anon, obviously someone else is voicing her

https://www.moguravr.com/vtuber-group-pickup/
An article about the future Holo/Niji killer groups.

https://note.com/margari/n/ne154d1c7a90c

My retired oshi can beat your retired oshi. Irl and in number.

>>24897516
pretty sure that was because they were putting lewds on her actual fanart tag.
plenty of Suisei lewds out there, as every day she gets gold proves.

>>24896284
some of them are like 2view level with sub 50 CCV streams but they moved them to the main branch and apparently it looks better for the investors than keeping them in a separate branch.

>>24898751
>An article about the future Holo/Niji killer groups.
The only one in that list that might have a small chance is vspo and riot also
>Verse
as much as i want that to happen, with sony handling them that would be impossible

>>24895626
most of niji ID actually hates numbers Hana killing her channel is the best example I guess

>>24897933
I have no such sympathy.
Youtube as a site itself started off because people wanted to do interesting shit on video and share them with others.
And now that there's some money to be made, you're sad/disappointed that YOU aren't getting views?
Fuck that.
Make something interesting in your spare time, share it with whoever you want, and enjoy the process. If you make it big, THEN decide whether you want to go full time.
The expectation of wanting to live off Youtube right at the start is what kills most people's careers AND creativity.

>kronii sc numbers incline as time goes on
is that what usually happens
did kronii catch a funnel from bae?

>>24898430
Jesus anon, were you living under a rock this whole time?

>>24890400
>>24891096
>>24891209
ENfags were the Luxiumfans of /hlg/ 2020, or even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNe_dVbEvZw

> The "person she admires" is Joe's April fool's joke from this year.
> He made an entire Live2D rig "as a joke"
> Nijisanji has sold Riku merch "as a joke" before.

I honestly still can't tell whether she's real.

Wait im being serious here did something happen to Nobu or something did she get the coof and die?

When's the next VEE debut? The one with 60k subs went first and only got ~1500 peak I believe. The next one has like 28k subs if I remember right. Then the 3 after that basically start from zer.

>>24899055
she reincarnated as a certain pagliacchi chuuba and continues streaming to this day.
this was in 2020 man where the hell were you all this time?

>>24899055
There's no way this isn't bait

>>24899055
here's a hint: potato pc

>>24899109
>>24899120
wait hold up that wasnt a rrat like how m-chan is supposedly kizuna ai?

>>24899136
m-chan is *maru-sama

>>24899055
PolPol being nobu is probably the 2nd least kept secret in hololive, right after Coco/Kson

>>24897818
I just read that Xinjiang detention centers got hacked and the media leaked images and documents straight out of an orwellian nightmare
https://twitter.com/adrianzenz/status/1528989276611936257
Man China is so fucked up

So Valkyrie Connect is planning a second collab with Hololive already. Just how much fucking money did they make with this collab?

salome is already almost reaching 200k subs. She broke all previous records for fastest to reach 100k
Hyakumantenbara Salome - 4 Days
Leos Vincent - 4 Days
Lain Paterson - 4 Days
Axia Krone - 5 Days
Lauren Iroas - 5 Days
Oliver Evans - 10 Days
Alban Knox - 11 Days
Yugo Asuma - 13 Days
Vox Akuma - 13 Days
Mysta Rias - 14 Days
Petra Gurin - 14 Days
Sonny Brisko - 16 Days
Uki Violeta - 18 Days
Elira Pendora - 22 Days
Shu Yamino - 22 Days
Ike Eveland - 22 Days
Selen Tatsuki - 23 Days
Luca Kaneshiro - 23 Days
Ponto Nei - 27 Days
Fulgur Ovid - 27 Days

>>24899136
Just watch this anon Jesus Christ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLX10kccpU0

>>24899136
Are you a dimensional traveler or something?
I never heard of that rrat before

>>24899166
Niji has an opportunity and if they actually fuck it up by making her fake then its over

>>24899165
https://www.ww.valkyrieconnect.com/web/saga/information/top
Link for those interested.
Also, considering that they blew past every single goal, and the one that they added on top, in less than half the time of the actual collab?
It would be almost negligent to ignore how much power holoautism has.

>>24899165
They blew thru 10M points goal with days to spare and Holo bundle sold extremely well, of course they want more

>>24899165
Not as much as they would if they partnered with Luxiem

>>24899152
>>24899186
>>24899189
>>24899157
Well fuck me for being a retard I guess i need to catch up then
See in a couple of days anons

>>24899246
the game is titled "Valkyrie" Connect, not Manwhore Connect

>>24899275
but La+ is a whore though

>>24899159
Adrian Zenz
anon...

>>24899275
Touche

>>24899290
You shut your fucking mouth, Lapu is an angel

>>24899265
enjoy mate
and welcome to this timeline, it's the best one

>>24899322
She's a bigger whore than luna that in itself is an achievement

>>24899165
Azur Lane dev and publisher probably feel envious of that but they can't do anything because CN

>>24899265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEP2utHYZ2s

And also watch basically all of The Legend of Polka, its entirely subbed officially in English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6uaZUw_FNA&list=PLWGY2acU-ZeQQOdp1rukMK8MW_DgkMhds

>>24897954
Jack Ma sided with Xiang Jemin and stuck to the old order of power instead of welcoming the new one.
He chose poorly.

>>24899376
They moved their base of operations to SG din'y they?
I bet we'll be seeing the return of Holo event soon

>>24899295
Well it's headline news on some prominent sites like bbc and spiegal
China's response is also pretty damning, even including a "The local people are living a safe, happy, and fulfilling life." line lol

>>24897593
sponsored? Would be funny if they got one of those hollywood interviews.

>>24899186
im wondering as to why someone would video a chuuba, before throwing her out of a plane

>>24899394
I thought that was because Jack Ma was courting the Youth League clique?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNrT1c_wl4U
Numberfag time (original song version)

>>24899366
Go to bed Sasaki

>>24899500
wow I thought he was only doing covers now

>>24899483
He was courting them so that they would side with the old order if my memory serves me right

>>24898314
Honestly, we have no idea how big the market is for any branch.
Sometimes, it's just a kick like Kobo, I won't even surprise if she manages to challenge Pekora, Mori or even Gura in subs, anything can happen.

>>24899136
Do you mean Nodoka is AI? Nah.

>>24899473
It would be extremely painful

>>24899500
>Original
>Most of them are Mori and Suzy

Meh

>>24899500
Fuck I missed the start

>>24898077
>Choco is a busted up old hag who has specifically mentioned that she is in the dating game
LET ME IN YOU JAP FUCKING SHITS
I CAN SAVE HER

Wait, is Bully an original song? I thought it was a cover

>>24899376
>leaving glorious china
how did the wolf warriors react about that?
how much did they seethe?

>>24899432
Most of the western news have in/directly referenced him and have circularly referenced each other to masquerade the original source coming from Adrian Zenz.
What's happening there is pretty concerning but with what's happening there can they not find any other legitimate source other than this hack?

>>24899571
Youre a big bird

>>24899612
he mistook a mori song for a cover, yikes.