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/nasfaqg/ - NASFAQ General: ohhhhhh I need to shit Edition
Thread for the discussion of NASFAQ, a financial market simulator based on holding of coins that represent the members of Hololive and some of their mamas.
This is a fake stock market game meant for FUN, not a real stock market (cryptofags will not be happy here either, no real money involved, NO you won't get better at stocks from this).

https://nasfaq.biz/info - READ THIS. No seriously read it, faggot.

Research 1: https://schedule.hololive.tv/
Research 2: https://holo.poi.cat/
Research 3: https://hololive.jetri.co/
Research 4: https://files.catbox.moe/9e0tpa.webm (ding) (ding) (ding) (ding) (ding)

F.U.C.K. Reports (Market-based reports, updated daily): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104gsM_vZz1MuhJxfuYeT_xNFC1Qk1h7zeLVoCyFsrSw/edit?usp=sharing
"Real Oshiboard" spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c-ioaVcHWb4kMHXF8kqND9mZ_O84P-xLzbDoY-JGmrk/edit?usp=sharing
https://files.catbox.moe/jhccbu.webm (embed)

Revised Haaton Wallet Analyzer sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ou-iTo4fF9YcPWKZZtqsG-SjUJDWBJ20Wxrrwc2-he8/edit?usp=sharing
Returns Report temporary archive: https://rentry.org/returnsreport
Aggie. Come draw, all skill levels are welcome: https://aggie.io/cgcows3hns

Mikofag's humble attempt to archive some of the thread OC: https://mega.nz/folder/NeQghDqL#mSL13SdqKjKgYVjFCgF6Iw
Thread Lore: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BNIA50Z2vw4pS6gLbxyTL5trAfIo-Uo22womorcx-7o/edit?usp=sharing
Previous Thread: >>24654207

>> No.24793501
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this is what would happen if you niggers won't stop your homo RPing

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>>24779599

>> No.24793564

>>24793501
projection, not all of us are degenerates like you

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>>24793501

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>> No.24793903 [SPOILER] 
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A network

>> No.24794026

>>24793541
> Shion losses hour per week
> Honk sell civia
> today market price made pagi blue
> red UI suisei

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>>24793501
>Caring about some /asp/ drama
Go back to your thread and discord please I do not wish to see the bickering of unentertaining crabs.
>>24333357
>>23985735
And stop asking for /asp/faq. Sounds boring as hell, just like every chuuba in that thread.

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>>24761987
Whoops. It's because numbers are, by default, aligned to the right. I usually try to correct it manually but lately I've been trying to automate the Reports and this slipped through.

Mahjong, anyone?
South, 4p, 5+20s.
https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=38283

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Good morning nasfaq!
Zhonkbot shit the bed while I was asleep last night. Missed 40 cycles.

>> No.24796775

>>24796110
1 seat remaining!

>> No.24796794

>>24796110
death

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>>24796794

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death to mahjong

>> No.24796956
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ohhhhhhhhh bread

>> No.24797314

any news on the mobile app? Is app anon still playing the game?

>> No.24797697

>>24796110
Is there still a seat for me?

>> No.24797756

>>24797697
Maybe in the next game, right now we're playing East 3.

>> No.24797790

>>24797756
Oh, nevermind then. I'm going back to sleep.

>> No.24798076

>>24796110
Oh mahjong room, maybe I will try it.
Click the link
Asks me to register
Close the page and forgor

It's been like this for quite a while now. I'm too lazy to make an account

>> No.24798243

>>24796956
ohhhhhhhhhhh bread

>> No.24798367

>>24797314
>any news on the mobile app?
None. I haven't done any work on the app for a while due to various reasons. The main reason being that I lost interest at some point.

Regardless the usefulness of a mobile app is questionable at best. Mobile phones battery saving features limit when the phone can be active whilst it is not in use (and without an external power source).

>Is app anon still playing the game?
No; the game has been dead for me for quite a while. I am still active on the thread however.

>> No.24798430

>>24798367
this is why >we need a server-side trader

>> No.24799171

>>24798076
Make an account, c'mon. It'll take a while to learn the game, but it's worth it.

>>24796110
1 seat open!

>> No.24799751

ohhhh i need to shit

>> No.24799762

>tiktok
I'm on suicide watch these views aren't going to count

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post em

>> No.24800112
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Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 34)
>Hololive :: $22,544.85
>Suisei :: $10,132.96
>Roboco :: $9,418.36

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 32)
>Ina'nis :: -$9,735.68
>Kronii :: -$6,377.37
>Amelia :: -$6,098.46

Overall Average Adjustment is $819.95
Average Upward Adjustment is $3,363.58
Average Downward Adjustment is -$1,882.66

Don't get baited, pick up some good deals, and see you in a few hours.

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how retarded are my trades?

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>>24800038

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>>24800239
>10x mumei
I kneel to your retardation.

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>>24800360
I'm oshicoining

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>>24800474
nice

>> No.24800708

>>24798430
This why we need a reset

>> No.24800909 [SPOILER] 
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh Pagi

>> No.24800941
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Miko's running HoloFighter, so there will be gambling. As in right now.

>>24800038
>Almost everything I have is green
>Except THAT coin, which went pretty damn red and killed all of my gains.

>>24799762
Tiktok is targeting an audience that wouldn't be on youtube. The possibility exists that there will be a small bump to Youtube views.

>> No.24801318

>all this fucking green
We need some good red days or I'm going to have too much liquid on Friday

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I miss bibi days...

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>>24800038
oof

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>>24800038

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>>24800038
finally i get to be happy and show off my somewhat terrible performance history

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>>24800038
This feels very unnatural.

>> No.24802345

The game only started for me once I unlocked auctions and some anon bought me a yellow ticket for 10 million

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>>24800038

>> No.24804642

HoloFighterZ is streaming more reliably than the other wrestling show.

>> No.24804973

It's boring

>> No.24805031

/nasfagq/ tomodachi doko?

>> No.24805247

I have 4 days or less left until I am out of money. What am I supposed to do then?

>> No.24805319

>>24800112
As always, thank you very much for your morning review!
Sorry for not thanking you yesterday but I was busy with the renovation! Keep up the excellent job anon!

>> No.24805541

>>24804642
the dude who does HFZ is dead.

>> No.24805846

>>24805541
It was miko testing the waters for new stream ideas

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A reminder.

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>>24806413
What about Dota?

>> No.24806854

>>24806413
>ignore mahjong post
>is the one responsible for reacting to them
ironic

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I made it back to 5 million.

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>>24807589
This is what my graph looks like right now.

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>>24807589
Grats!
>>24808598
Jesas... Well at least it was a minor setback in the grand scheme.
Are you feeling better?

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24808973

Okay, storytime.
A month and a half ago, I had to reinstall windows on my PC I didn't really have to, but I'm retarded, so.... Then I went on to install Chrome and all of the extentions I had prior to that.
Everything was fine until I decided to restart PC. After I did that, for some weird reason, I could no longer log in nasfaq from Chrome. I could've emailed honk, but I didn't I'm too shy for that...
I decided to just switch to Edge and that was the end of it... Until just a few days ago.
This time, it's even more weird, nasfaq was completely unreachable for me. After trying different options, the solution ended up being... Installing vpn (the browser extension)! To this day, sometimes it works without vpn, sometimes with, I have no idea, what the fuck does it mean.
But here's the fun part! Next morning, when I turned my PC on and tried to log in... I couldn't! And just like the last time, too! So I deleted the extension and it worked! And when I deleted the same extension from Chrome, I finally got to log in!
I haven't tried using other vpn extensions yet, but... Can someone explain, just what all of that means and how to fix that? Having to delete it, just to reinstall it again everyday isn't too bothersome, but still.

>> No.24809066

>>24808973
run nasfaq on firefox

>> No.24809082

>>24809066
cringe

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>>24808973

>> No.24809465

>>24808973
Slightly easier than reinstalling it each day, if you right click an extension icon -> manage extension, you can toggle it on and off at the top without having to uninstall.

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>>24808781
I still have a stuffed nose and a cough that is extremely annoying but otherwise yeah I'm feeling better. I've been told those won't be going away for some time though.

>> No.24810208

>>24810169
Are you taking your daily vitamin C and D?

>> No.24810993

>>24810169
rape

>> No.24811027

>>24810993
Why! The other heimin is RIGHT there!

>> No.24811050

>>24811027
both of you are slaves to the kenzoku regardless

>> No.24811080

>>24811027
multi-trackheimin raping...

>> No.24811290

>The thread was properly dead for 6 hours yesterday
yep, nasfaq is dead

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>>24811027
>The other heimin is RIGHT there!
What's that supposed to mean, you pipsqueak?!

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>>24811502
>pipsqueak
Haaaaaah?! I know for a fact I'm taller than you! Who do you think you're calling a pipsqueak?!
And besides, all this heimin rape nonsense is your fault! Take responsibility!

>> No.24811669

>>24811502
>>24811627
get a room

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>>24811627
>I know for a fact I'm taller than you
How would you know that? I never mentioned my height!
>heimin rape nonsense is your fault
It's not my fault that I'm so popular!

>> No.24812029

>>24811998
I will cuddle you.

>> No.24812082

Why are Heimin so dumb?

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>>24811998
>>24811627
You two stop arguing or I will ask my wife to settle it down in a different way than you would want to.

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>>24811998
>How would you know that? I never mentioned my height!
Because if you were, that'd make you even more of a giant than I am, and I'm willing to bet you aren't!
>It's not my fault that I'm so popular!
And you definitely didn't play into it at all? Hmmmm?

>> No.24812270

>>24811998
>>24812220
There's more than enough Kenzoku for the both of you.

>> No.24812343

The Heimin are cute today. I like the one that resists the Kenzoku, prime NASFAQ gf material.

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>>24812220
>that'd make you even more of a giant than I am
I don't need to resort to lies! I'm sure my natural height is enough to show you, who's the boss here!
>And you definitely didn't play into it at all?
Ehe...

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>>24812479
>I don't need to resort to lies! I'm sure my natural height is enough to show you, who's the boss here!
Did you just imply I'm lying about my height? Oi.
>Ehe...
Heimin.

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>>24812629
>Did you just imply I'm lying about my height
You saying that you're taller, than me! Of course you have to be lying!
>Heimin
Ehehe... Teasing all those rich geezers is just so much fun...

>> No.24812943

all heimin should post wrist

>> No.24813051

>>24812943
I agree with that one.

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>>24812796
>You saying that you're taller, than me! Of course you have to be lying!
Accept it for it is true. My genes were predisposed toward being tall, and that is what happened. You can not change reality!
>Ehehe... Teasing all those rich geezers is just so much fun...
Okay, I'll give you that. It IS fun.

>> No.24813073

>>24812796
Bratty Heimin needs Washizu Mahjong correction

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>>24813057
>My genes were predisposed toward being tall
Yeah, sure, try to convince yourself of that, I'm sure it'll work eventually!
>Okay, I'll give you that. It IS fun.
See~? You get it~ Knowing, that they can only look but are unable to do anything~ So much fun~

>> No.24813314

kenzoku please put the leash back on them

>> No.24813375

>muh height posting
off yourself

>> No.24813441

>>24813375
Manlet spotted.

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>>24813307
>Yeah, sure, try to convince yourself of that, I'm sure it'll work eventually!
Whatever!
>See~? You get it~ Knowing, that they can only look but are unable to do anything~ So much fun~
I like seeing them get desperate. Knowing they want me but will never have me is an amazing feeling.
Not that I'd ever encourage such a thing. Nope, not me.

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>>24813529
>Whatever!
Hmph!
>I like seeing them get desperate. Knowing they want me but will never have me is an amazing feeling. Not that I'd ever encourage such a thing. Nope, not me.
Mhm~ I believe you~ I also wouldn't encourage anything like that~ Because it's a bad thing to do~

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Wrist poster was right, heimins are being too bratty, dong correction is needed.

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>>24813732
>Mhm~ I believe you~ I also wouldn't encourage anything like that~ Because it's a bad thing to do~
I'm glad we've come to an agreement. Now I'm gonna go finish my food.

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>>24814193
Have a good one!

>> No.24814254

>>24813894
wrist poster is always right

>> No.24814505

>>24813441
boasting about height online is probably one of the most stupid things ever

>> No.24814544

>>24814505
It is, but it doesn't anger me when someone does it. Certainly not to the degree to tell them to off themselves.

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oh im sick alright. sick of this bullshit right now what the fuck is this gay ass thread bro tf go trip on a rock or something

>> No.24815013

>>24814994
how about you sit on my cock

>> No.24815066

>>24814994
I told you to rest you fucking nigger

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>>24815013
look yourself in the mirror and try to convince yourself youre straight you faggot

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>>24815066
i am going to play destiny 2

>> No.24815206

>>24815168
enjoy playing alone

>> No.24815225

>>24815097
i dont have to

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>>24815206
oh im used to it

>> No.24815338

>>24811290
I fear we might have hit the great filter, I know honk is working on options, but what comes after? What changes could he possibly make? We might have gone too far, I don't see any feasible change that mixes up the market and how it plays given our current amount of money

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>>24808973
>>>/g/
When NASFAQ is unreachable, what exactly is going on? What error message do you get? How you go about fixing it will depend on what's wrong.
Also my money is on your adblocker and/or "Tracking Prevention", on by default in Edge, blocking Google's reCAPTCHA. If the reCAPTCHA can't load, you can't log in. The VPN fixing it might be a bizarre coincidence - you're ending up with an IP address that Google thinks doesn't need to re-verify with a new CAPTCHA...or you're in a 3rd world country that's using some kind of DNS filtering and should look into changing your DNS settings to quad 9 or quad 1.
Next time it happens, double check that your adblocker/privacy protection is disabled for nasfaq. "Tracking prevention" is under the SSL padlock in the address bar. I don't think uBlock Origin breaks reCAPTCHA by default, but I know Privacy Badger often does.

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wtf

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Feeling very Mahjong-y today. Unusually so.

South, 4p, 5+20s.
https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=38846

>> No.24819004

>>24818385
1 seat left!

>> No.24819109

>>24819004
And whoever wins will get the heimin as a nasfaq gf!

>> No.24819343

If you're going to spam Kanatach, at least do it with the nurse one.

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ohhh rurudo

>> No.24821684

>>24821197
>pantsu

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>>24821684
There's not as much art coming out recently, please understand.

>> No.24822093

>>24821818
Almost as if she wasn't streaming at all

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>>24822093
Frustrated? She's streamed more than others than those in the game recently. She did say it was gonna be a monthly/whenever she wants thing.

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>>24800038
im accelerating

>> No.24822337

>>24807589
very sexual kanata
and congrats

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24822345

>>24822296
Damn your curve is such a nice smooth exponential, I'm jealous.

>> No.24823211
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Is the auction house just permanently dead now

>> No.24823310

>>24823211
I'm selling a Kiara hat just for you

>> No.24823344
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>>24823310
Thank you

>> No.24823502

>>24822149
the ayame of holomamas

>> No.24823547

>>24823502
Look at the last Pochi and Nabi stream.

>> No.24823581

>>24823547
>>24823502
All whores

>> No.24824142
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>> No.24824237

>>24805031
Explain what you meant anon.

>> No.24824707
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24824707

19th hour, enjoy, etc.

>> No.24825368
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it's a cute

>> No.24827000
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ohhh rurudo

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>>24822296
>>24822345

>> No.24828223
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24828223

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.
Data collected at Cycle 66.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 29,320,024, a 0.2% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 444,243. There are 26 coins above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest volume, at 2,621,111 shares, or 8.94% of market volume.
>Pochimaru currently has the lowest volume, at 64,975 shares, or 0.22% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 43):
>Kronii :: +5.2%
>Rurudo :: +4.7%
>Choco :: +3.9%
>Lui :: +2.9%
>Fauna :: +2.4%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 23):
>Kanaeru :: -6.7%
>Ui :: -3.8%
>Nana :: -3.1%
>Shion :: -2.4%
>Botan :: -1.5%

3 coins (Lamy, Matsuri, Miko) had a net 0% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $250,715.83, which is an increase of 4.45% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $885,862,943,893.48, which is an increase of 7.27% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $30,213.58. A total of 15 coins are above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest value, at $101,008,339,207.06 in total market value, or 11.4% of market value.
>Nana currently has the lowest value, at $612,603,394.20 in total market value, or 0.07% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 54):
>Roboco :: +34.7%
>Hololive :: +34.6%
>Miko :: +27.8%
>Botan :: +22.6%
>Suisei :: +21%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 12):
>Ina'nis :: -25.6%
>Kanaeru :: -24.7%
>HLuna :: -19.7%
>Shion :: -19.2%
>Ui :: -12.2%


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $370,302,415, which is a decrease of 52.64% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $640,664,093.97 today, a decrease of 5.6% from yesterday's salary.

Top 5 Superchat Increases (of 18):
>Ayamy :: +9.8%
>Reine :: +6.2%
>Iofi :: +2.6%
>Marine :: +2.4%
>Polka :: +2.2%


Here's the M.O.V.E. Report for today:
>7 coins (Rushia, Aki, Chloe, Ayamy, Iofi, Reine, Ayame) adjusted green, but are still trending upwards.
>2 coins (Shion, Ui) adjusted red, but are still trending downwards.
>13 coins (Rurudo, Calliope, Laplus, Fauna, Mumei, Risu, Nabi, Marine, Baelz, Flare, Nene, AZKi, Nachoneko, Coco, Pochimaru, Civia) adjusted red, but are now above their pre-adjustment value.
>41 coins are on projected trend lines and have not intersected with their pre-adjustment values.

Top 5 Most Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Hololive :: $558.33 Down
>Kronii :: $441.68 Up
>Choco :: $331.52 Up
>Lui :: $288.23 Up
>Amelia :: $269.03 Up

Top 5 Least Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Melfissa :: $1.36 Down
>Reine :: $2.36 Up
>Kiara :: -$2.77 Down
>Civia :: $5.54 Up
>Shion :: $5.95 Down

Overall Average movement was $12.40 per hour.
Average Upwards movement was $98.42 per hour.
Average Downwards movement was -$97.36 per hour.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and bank those motes.

>> No.24830292
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die

>> No.24831070
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>>24830292
Are you proud my fellow trader? You've said die so many times the game successfully did. It's fucking dead it's empty it's barren.

>> No.24831181
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>>24831070
Do you know what's not empty and barren? Gura's womb when it's full of my cum.

>> No.24831550

Nasfaq is dead! Long live nasfaq!

>> No.24831881

>>24831181
oh nyo~ please don't fill me with your cummies myaster

>> No.24832273

>>24831070
>>24831181
I wish to have sex with Gura.

>> No.24834434
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ohhh rurudo

>> No.24835610
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Who is the cutest nasfaq user?

>> No.24835723

>>24835610
(You)

>> No.24835731
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>>24835610
avarice

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>>24835610
(You)

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>>24837363
>>24835723
You guys, please... ////

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>>24837520
///

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>>24837778

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>>24838668
sorry, I'm taken...

>> No.24839732

>>24839609
>he has a nasfaq gf

>> No.24839749

>>24839732
>gf

>> No.24839845

>>24839732
a certain geometric shape is the bottom...

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>>24839732
we could have tea, though...

>> No.24840142

>>24839924
I'm not that guy who was asking to drink tea together, just a passerby.

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>>24840142
oh

>> No.24841129

Anons are very cute today.

>> No.24841392

>>24840664
I'm not that anon but would you like to have tea with me?

>> No.24841463

>>24841129
and very groomable

>> No.24843009

>>24808973
Change your dns from your isp to cloudflare

>> No.24844157

>>24841463
well said

>> No.24845190

>>24808973
Stop being Russian.

>> No.24846554

>>24845190
Is he really one? Why are all heimin russkis

>> No.24847070

What's the fastest way to get to my first million ;_;

>> No.24847191

>>24847070
trade well for a week or so

>> No.24847236

>>24847070
Don't be retarded and buy towa

>> No.24847492

>>24828223
As always. Thank you very much for your numbers review anon!

>> No.24847521

>>24847070
Get the auction pass, sell something and ask an anon here to give you a starting boost

>> No.24849698

I never figured out how anon did these a network graphs

>> No.24849786 [SPOILER] 
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24849786

Ohhhhhhhhhhh Pagi
https://youtu.be/LV55uACCpTc
OHHHHHHHHHHH PAGI

>> No.24850357
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24850357

Can't believe that Loafy is going into the PGE.

>> No.24850397

>>24849698
something about api calls and graph majick

>> No.24850419
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24850419

Good morning nasfaq!

>> No.24852264
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24852264

ohhh rurudo

>> No.24852273

Die

>> No.24853300

ohhhh i need to shit

>> No.24853579
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24853579

Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 12)
>Roboco :: $41,772.29
>Iofi :: $27,569.38
>Miko :: $12,752.00

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 53)
>Kanaeru :: -$20,112.43
>Towa :: -$13,766.87
>Korone :: -$12,005.27

Overall Average Adjustment is -$1,322.19
Average Upward Adjustment is $8,920.91
Average Downward Adjustment is -$3,641.39
Civia notably did not adjust.

Don't get baited, pick up some good deals, and somebody check to see if Kobo became a music channel when nobody was looking.

>> No.24853584

ooooh big greens!

>> No.24853624

>>24853579
>mfw easy mode happens to all channels now

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Pagi!

>> No.24854018
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I SOLD ALL MY ROBOCO YESTERDAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS STUPID TOASTER DID A LIVE CONCERT

>> No.24854033

>>24854018
watch streams

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Post them

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>>24854056

>> No.24854149
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>>24854056

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>>24854056
There is a bug, I blame honk.

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>>24854056

>> No.24854438
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>>24854056

>> No.24854637
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24854637

So I've been keeping quiet about it in case it was just some weirdo shit, but is anybody else noticing how Zeta has basically just gone down in the last 2 weeks? Not by small amounts, either: she's losing 10~20% or more every single day. Every day, people buy her up, and every day she gets slapped right back down.
Is she just getting overbought and the system is trying to course correct?

>> No.24854738
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jesas

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>>24854637
Me and my 3100 zeta did notice that. I like how 1k change in price is around 3.5m in change for my wallet.

>> No.24855028
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>>24854637
Yes; it is a timeless conflict between two systems that cannot co-exist.

>> No.24855031

why did Iofi go up
Miko had a huge WWE stream and Roboco had a birthday.

>> No.24855069

>>24854637
It's probably the system kicking in. I remember a mikoposter talking about how overbought completely fucks up adjustments

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>>24855028
>>24854949
>>24854637

>> No.24855118

>>24855031
one week since she got banned, same with kobo yesterday

>> No.24855139

>>24855100
>expecting nasfaq to accurately represent any sort of actual growth

>> No.24855466

>>24855100
Coins are either to go down or crab if it's just a normal stream

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>>24854056

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>>24854056
>>24854069
>>24854149
>>24854196
>>24854438
>>24856369
Nice Aki purchases!

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why do all the zaibatsu niggers have to take something and then and ONLY then roll over, play dead, and make taking it back seem undeserved...

>> No.24858418

Aki is the most underrated talent in Hololive

>> No.24858480

>>24857310
Yo

>> No.24858717
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>>24858480

>> No.24859217
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24859217

Mahjong.

https://mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com/?room=15139

>> No.24859259

>>24859217
death

>> No.24859638
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24859638

I had an idea recently, a way to change how dividends work a bit, potentially even apply to adjustments too, but I'm not too sure on how it would work for that without breaking stuff, anyways, the idea I had is adding a "number of streams/videos in a week" metric, as we all know how divs work and that they are very fucked, usually limiting everyone but the top earners.

This metric would buff consistent channels, and possibly debuff the ones that aren't as consistent too. For example, look at pic related, Koyori had 33 streams in the last 20 days, if we look at her latest dividend payout she gave $1125, granted it was a special week with Kobo and Iofi being outliers and stealing the pool due to their channels getting banned, but if you look at the dividend archive she lives between $800 and $1200 regularly.

With this change chuubas that are consistent and put in the effort would be rewarded, I'm sure >we all remember Risu's NNN being disappointing as far as making money goes, this could have changed that, same with Bae's Febaerary.

What I particularly like about this idea is that it stays true to the game's original idea of "to encourage you to seek out and watch Holos who you otherwise wouldn't pay as much attention to", it would make reps sort of matter again, "X is doing 10 streams this week!?!?" "No way, Ayame is going into hiatus!?" and would, by proxy, make you keep up with other holos and what they are doing.

I also hope that this will really mix up dividends and even the playing field, we all know Suzy and Mori are very OP, and that's fine, they deserve it for making shitty music that gives them passive views, but the fact that they can still have a payout of $2000+ per week with almost no streams is pretty bullshit, this change could potentially bring them down when they are not streaming, which also balances them on normal schedules, it often happens that they have fewer streams than their peers due having to record music, they would still get an extra boost on music releases, videos should count after all, and in those occasions, I feel like it's deserved, but nowadays with 0 streams going on? Definitely not.

And it would hopefully help with other situations partially, recently it was brought to my attention that Towa literally beat Miko in every single metric last week, yet she paid $600 less in dividends than her, upon looking closer at the two it was even more absurd, Miko only got 3 videos counted for that week while Towa streamed daily with her apex addiction (or even twice a day sometimes), in that case, Towa would have been rewarded for consistency and Miko punished for it.

And that's just big channels! Hopefully, it could also bypass the retarded pool big numbers get more distribution and boost small ones that stream frequently, like the IDs, for example, Ayamy also comes to mind, I think she streams pretty often.

So that's the gist of it, a new metric that tracks the number of streams/videos in a week that plays into how dividends are distributed, giving consistent coins a much-deserved buff, nerfing hiatus coins, and it could also fix the Suzy/Mori situation or at least make it better and maybe even bring back doing some sort of reps.

>> No.24859870
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>>24859638
>Suzy shitty music
I know where you live/ Reconsider this line.

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>>24859638
I think we should change the way dividends work. Instead of basing it on statistics and numbers and shit, we should use a Mori Index. The closer the chuuba is to being Mori, the greater the value of the dividend.

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>>24859638

>> No.24860633

>>24859638
Neat idea. Have you emailed it to honk?

>> No.24860973

My idea; sex with Suisei
Suisex

>> No.24861170
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>>24860973
I agree with this, please add it honk, I beg you.

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>>24859638
I like it even though it'll nerf my pirate. I'd rather divs were just fucking uncapped..
>Towa butthurt and apesex
kys

>> No.24861228

>>24859638
This shows a fundamental lack of understanding of why Suisei and Mori are OP, and what is the fundamental problem with dividends as they stand right now.

Suisei and Mori aren't stupidly broken because they get a lot of views or have very high dividends compared to other coins, but rather because their prices (usually) were kept low by a constant bugged adjustment cycles. Unless you fix that, no matter what dividends allocation mechanic you use, they will continue to be broken.

Similarly, hiatus coins are great because they don't adjust, which is the biggest buff in the game as it allows for the market to pump them without too much thought.

Additionally, the methods they are using do differentiate between chuubas in terms of raw numbers that go into the equation, but not in terms of what goes out. The formula is extremely same-y and doesn't make that much of a difference, and even if you replaced views with hours watched the results would still be roughly the same, just that some coins would get worse and others would get better.

Dividends should get uncapped and unhinged in terms of volatility. Make 0$ dividends possible if views are very low compared to weekly average (hiatus), and make them skyrocket if they are far exceeding the usual amount. This is what will boost smaller channels, especially if they don't have to compete for a single dividend pool with music channels.

>> No.24861240

my idea
instead of coins it’s all pictures of towa genius right

>> No.24861251
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24861251

>>24860973
Yes.

>> No.24861317

replace all coins with different pictures of suisei giving VERY enthusiastic blowjobs

>> No.24861356

Am I the only one here who has no idea how overbought or oversold or poi or the cutoff time for the scraper or the market in general works and just trades after adjustments to maximize dividends / investment? I still have no clue what hour 19 is after a year here.

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>>24861317
You have my attention.

>> No.24861430

>>24861240
you're onto something here

>> No.24861673

>>24861170
damn thats hot

>> No.24861951

>long and well thought post about the game
>quickly gets derailed by something useless
Every time. It almost feels intentional

>> No.24861986

>>24859638
Reply to your post because you were sad >>24861951

>> No.24862038
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24862038

>>24859638
both suzy and mori are shitcoins now

>> No.24862045

>>24859638
This is a good idea, but the other effortpost in response is correct in that the main issue with Suisei and Mori is that the dividend system is "tricked" into thinking that they're performing well because of the massive dive/spike from being subject to the dumb Music Channel shenanigans.

>> No.24862115

music channel cryniggers clearly haven't been keeping up to date, that shit is fixed

>> No.24862188

>>24861203
If your pirate goes on a regular streaming schedule + her clips upload that she usually uploads, she's going to dominate the market, have faith.
>>24861228
My post is not about Suisei and Mori being OP, it's about changing the dividend system a bit.

And modifying dividends is literally the most important thing in this game, currently all your money comes from dividends, how much do Priestess and Cypher get paid? $1.5b? $2b? Good luck trying to reach anywhere near that with trading, furthermore, at an average price of 45k this week Suisei has had a 6% return on average, there have been many deals in the market that are better than that during this week, and let's not ignore the fact that Mori's price is inflating.
I really don't understand your logic here, you say:
>Suisei and Mori aren't stupidly broken because they get a lot of views or have very high dividends compared to other coins
but then
>no matter what dividends allocation mechanic you use, they will continue to be broken.
If this change pushes their dividends down they'll be downright worse if they keep being at the price they are at, I really don't understand what you are trying to get to here?

On hiatus coins, I want to change that obviously, the best coins being the ones that don't stream is really dumb for this game, active coins should be rewarded for the effort they put in.

And finally, I'm not saying that they change views for hour watched, all I'm saying, is that they add this new "number of streams/videos per week" to the formula, changing everything would not be a good idea, adding and expanding on to the current formula would be, for example, and mind you that this a very basic and wrong way of going at it as it limits complexity and the interaction between the parts of the system, after dividends are calculated you could run them through another formula that only takes the number of streams into account, Suisei who only had 1 stream that week would have gone down.
>>24862045
Once again, I am not trying to make this about music channels, it's about the whole system, I only pointed them out because they fall into the category of fewer streams than most but pay very well nonetheless.

>> No.24862590

any change designed to give towa higher divs is a bad change
do not buy towa

>> No.24862601
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>>24861986
We're not even the same person but everytime a rare effortpost concerning the game happens, a post that is either nasfaq gf or everyone starts RP-ing with hornyposting included, starts and completely derails the thread, making everyone ignore the effortpost instead. But if you really want the thread derailed, I could start derailing it instead.
I'm more than happy to start.

>> No.24862635

>>24859638
What a nice post to wake up to, give me time to shower and I'll make sure to reply.

>> No.24862654

>>24859638
I could buy more Aki with this, so I'm happy to agree

>> No.24862674

>>24862590
NTA, but Towa is only doing good now because she's playing apex with ecelebs or some shit

>> No.24862717

>>24862674
still doing good whats your point

>> No.24862750

>>24862717
That she should be my gf 24/7 but that's unrelated to this

>> No.24862767

>>24862717
That after ecelebs drop her she'll be back to being trash

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24862782

I'm basically back to where I was before my massive fuckup but my graph is gonna look funny for quite a while.

>> No.24862840

>>24862767
sounds like you have more of an issue with towa than the change

>> No.24862930

>>24862601
nta but I'd highly suggest replying to the effortpost instead of complaining, at least if you give a trash opinion somebody else would point that out

>> No.24863174

>>24862767
why are you responding to my don't buy towa meme with some retard shit

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>>24862930
Normally I would do that but that doesn't really work for almost everyone here. They're the type to continue unless they get called out, which then they will proceed to do one out of these three options. Stop with the derailing post for a while until someone else calls out the one complaining then proceed to shit on the one complaining together with the other one, Continue it more and stronger like an obnoxious cunt, or give the effortpost a reply.
What I'm doing is derailing the thread like them but about them so I'm just fighting fire with fire.

>> No.24863498

>>24863365
ironic shitposting is still shitposting, fag

>> No.24863559

>>24863365
so what are your thoughts on the proposed dividends change?

>> No.24863805

>>24862045
Not really, the dividend system functions normally when considering music channels. It's the adjustments that are fucked.

>>24862188
Yeah, Mori's price is finally turning to where it should be, likely because she finally broke out of the loop where people would buy her constantly regardless of price, which drove her price down over time via overbought.

If you want to just add that metric to the dividends formula without fixing the major issue - that they are "capped" and "pooled" together and very same-y, nothing will fundamentally change. You say how important this change is, but all it will do is make some coins perform a little bit better and some a little bit worse. This will not fix "the most important thing in this game", nor would it make anyone more competitive, since you are limited by the amount of transactions you can complete per cycle, so this would only have effects in the long run, and all it would do is that my personal spreadsheet would hesitate for maybe 2-3 weeks before continuing to crunch out proper numbers.

I agree that a change to the dividend system is needed, but it's not what you propose at all, at least not alone. They should be completely uncapped, with a much higher volatility, and only then adding additional metric would be meaningful in any way.

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>>24863498
As long as it gets the job done.
>>24863559
I completely agree with it. Nasfaq from the start was about doing reps and encouraging us to watch more holos, not just the EN, Susei, Korone, and the other popular ones but also watch the smaller and also hardworking ones. Consistent streams and still paying very low didn't really make any sense even before. There are also the really small and ignored holos who pays very low, making the users who has them as their oshi suffer or being punished for having a small numbered oshi, forcing them to buy Mori and now Suisei too.
I still think honk often forgets the main purpose or idea for nasfaq which is to encourage us to explore other holos, right now we don't even need to watch streams.

>> No.24863957

>>24863899
What you don't understand is that with this change you wouldn't need to watch streams either, one metacoin would just be replaced with another.

There's no easy way out of this. Dividends are too consistent, trading is too predictable and doesn't give enough profits, you either need to overhaul everything, reset with seasons, or introduce something new like options.

>> No.24863976

>>24863957
Or... Holonations.

>> No.24864017

>>24863957
nta but i don't see an issue with metacoins changing there will always be metacoins might as well have them change from what they have been for ages. i dont think that anon expected their idea to fix the game entirely just a nice change that makes good sense

>> No.24864067

>>24863976
I think that companies/mutual funds are more likely, but yeah, some other mechanic to funnel funds into.

>>24864017
I don't have anything against the metacoins changing, I'm just pointing out that it's a change that would do nothing in the grand scheme BUT change the metacoins. At that point, you might as well argue about boosting weekly subscriber gain contribution towards dividends or giving dividends a bonus based on the letter of alphabet their name starts with.

>> No.24864096

>>24863957
They will replace the metacoin, but only for that week. Even if you don't watch streams you'll still need to keep updated as to who did the most streams that week and who took a break. It's not as consistent as our current dividends which is buy music channel and huge number coins get profit. Changes will still happen every week. Like for example that is Ina, one week she's very active then next week she's mimicking her friend Sana.
In the end you're still REQUIRED to do reps.

>> No.24864254

>>24864096
The issue with music channels isn't their divvies performance, it's their price. This is what it has always been.

And no, this won't mean you'd magically have to do reps. You know why? Let me lay it down for you.

First of all, you can't change your wallet in the span of one week. You'd need to uncap the multicoin for it to work, and that's a change ten times bigger than what is suggested and should be discussed separately.

Secondly, have you seen the dividend amounts compared to coin's worth? They are fucking puny. Laughably small. Chasing after this week's dividends hasn't been a thing for over 9 months, it's time for you to wake up. The gameplay has been settled and has been boring BECAUSE everything has been boxed up and limited.

What you propose might force reps on someone who can shift their wallet quickly (i.e. newfags), but even then you shouldn't chase after dividends, just chase daily adjustments, it's several times more profitable.

>> No.24864418

>>24863805
I did not say that is change is important and that will fix the game, I said:
>And modifying dividends is literally the most important thing in this game
Which is 100% true in my eyes, again, most of the money you get comes from dividends, is my change "the most important"? I don't think so, but it's a step towards the right direction, believe me I'm willing to experiment, and bringing Suisei and Koyori up again, Koyori had 13 streams last week, Suisei had only 1, how to balance the addition and the weight of the metric is up to the devs, but I would not be opposed to axing Suisei's dividends in half or more given that she didn't do anything and distributing that to the rest of the coins, same with Koyori, she streamed a lot, so she should be entitled to get more.

Your sheet would only be able to keep up with consistent coins, the moment one goes into a hiatus your sheet will screw you over, stream output is a much more volatile metric for holos than anything else, you are underestimating this.
>>24863957
Once again, I digress, your meta coin would change depending on what the girls do, which a regular sheet can't predict.

I won't speak about uncapping divs and the pool being shared yet as that is an issue that requires more thought as the implications of it are very important, but I really don't see a reason about why we couldn't get his change, it encourages stream watching, rewards holos that stream a lot and depending on how strong the metric is, it could really shake up the dividend distribution. You can have volatility in dividend payouts without having them uncapped.

>> No.24864727

>>24863957
>>24864096
This way, it'll have a chance of boosting those who aren't metacoin playing but more of supporting their oshi by holding a huge stack of, example, Aki/Luna. They might get rewarded for it even if it's just for one week or weekly. If your oshi is someone as lazy as Sana, Ayame, Shion, Suisei, then you need to get punished by having low divs. Having a oshi that consistently streams but gives low dividends just because not everyone is into her or she's not a EOP magnet is simply unfair.
>>24864254
>The issue with music channels isn't their divvies performance, it's their price.
Exactly, because everyone loves them, then game proceeds to reward you for having a sheep brain to follow along and buy them to get rewarded
>First of all, you can't change your wallet in the span of one week.
Exactly, what I think of this change isn't something to hold for an entire month, it's for you to actually play the game AGAIN and change your wallet accordingly WEEKLY.
>Secondly, have you seen the dividend amounts compared to coin's worth? They are fucking puny. Laughably small.
Again, exactly, and there's something wrong with it not mirroring how the actual holo's channel performance is, when I said performance, I didn't meant their numbers but how consistent they stream.
>Chasing after this week's dividends hasn't been a thing for over 9 months, it's time for you to wake up.
Again, again, exactly. That's why people would once again do their reps if they want to earn more profit for this week or just stay with their current coins and hope their most number of coins aren't lazy streamers that are leaving their lives leisurely with 1 stream per week and the usual paid ads streams.
Not to offend you, or maybe to offend you a little, your take on this is the very state of the playerbase not wanting any change and prefers everything to be the same because, well, you're already making EASY money by not doing anything and relying on pricey and popular coins alone. There is something very wrong with that thinking.

>> No.24864728

>>24864418
Stream output is a very consistent metric for Holos if you predict it over one-two months, which is what people currently do with dividends.

Do you think that I'm some kind of a Mongoloid that predicts dividends on Thursday from last week's views? Anyone who does that doesn't fundamentally understand the strategy of investing into dividends. It's literally just extrapolating historical data with overlaid standard deviation, and believe me, it WOULD absolutely do that.

It doesn't encourage stream watching. I wouldn't even need to change anything in my sheet, just set it to the period after the change and look as it smoothens its prediction over time.

This is the reality of your suggested change. Now, I think it's fair to reward endurance streamers more, but don't act as if it's a game-changing thing, it would just change the meta coins without encouraging reps or "shaking the dividends up".

>> No.24864785

>>24864727
How the fuck do I change my 50000 "for dividends" coin stack weekly? Please, show me your math here, because I smell a poorfag.

>> No.24864881

>>24862782
ok I'll bite, HOW?

>> No.24864896

>>24864254
>>24864728
What's up with these contradictions lmao
>I CAN'T CHANGE MY WALLET IN ONE DAY THIS IS FOR POORFAGS VERY BAD NOOO
>I am the smartest being in the universe, I would just use data that I have collected for the past 13 months and wait until the new dividends roll in, so it all smooths out
If you have time to wait for that you have time to change your wallet, I smell a salty loser who has too much invested in music channel coins, I hope honk changes this so you lose

>> No.24864966

>>24864785
Can you please read? I'm not forcing people to change their 50000 stack. It's to fucking use your divies for this week and buy coins of holos that will constantly stream this week by knowing their schedules or by them saying they'll stream tomorrow via their current stream. Your way of thinking that GRUG SEE SUISEI GIVES 1MILLION DIVIDENDS GRUG BUY 50MILLION STACKS TO HOLD FOREVER is the very state of how everyone treats this game. I'm proposing people to PLAY again, is the concept of PLAYING very hard to understand anymore because game constantly rewarded us for not doing anything at all? Jesus H Christ. NASFAQ really is dead.

>> No.24864996

I agree that a change to the dividend system is needed, but it's not what you propose at all, at least not alone. They should be completely uncapped, with a much higher volatility, and only then adding additional metric would be meaningful in any way.
The issue with music channels isn't their divvies performance, it's their price. This is what it has always been.

And no, this won't mean you'd magically have to do reps. You know why? Let me lay it down for you.

First of all, you can't change your wallet in the span of one week. You'd need to uncap the multicoin for it to work, and that's a change ten times bigger than what is suggested and should be discussed separately.

Secondly, have you seen the dividend amounts compared to coin's worth? They are fucking puny. Laughably small. Chasing after this week's dividends hasn't been a thing for over 9 months, it's time for you to wake up. The gameplay has been settled and has been boring BECAUSE everything has been boxed up and limited.

Stream output is a very consistent metric for Holos if you predict it over one-two months, which is what people currently do with dividends.

Do you think that I'm some kind of a Mongoloid that predicts dividends on Thursday from last week's views? Anyone who does that doesn't fundamentally understand the strategy of investing into dividends. It's literally just extrapolating historical data with overlaid standard deviation, and believe me, it WOULD absolutely do that.

It doesn't encourage stream watching. I wouldn't even need to change anything in my sheet, just set it to the period after the change and look as it smoothens its prediction over time.

This is the reality of your suggested change. Now, I think it's fair to reward endurance streamers more, but don't act as if it's a game-changing thing, it would just change the meta coins without encouraging reps or "shaking the dividends up".

What you propose might force reps on someone who can shift their wallet quickly (i.e. newfags), but even then you shouldn't chase after dividends, just chase daily adjustments, it's several times more profitable.

>> No.24865000

>>24864896
I want to support you so please, please stop being so incredibly retarded

>> No.24865033

>>24864996
>First of all, you can't change your wallet in the span of one week. You'd need to uncap the multicoin for it to work
Honk, remove my multicoin limitators

>> No.24865064

can you format that please, grug brain hurt eye

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>>24864881
The short of it was that it was during the second time Kobo's channel got banned and then unbanned, and on my desktop I had it set to empty out Kobo, and as I was getting ready for bed I thought that was a bad idea so I checked on my phone to make sure I wasn't actually emptying out. However because NASFAQ isn't really built for phones the instance never updated, so what it showed me was when I was buying Kobo, but I'm an idiot and was tired and sick as a dog so it didn't seem odd to me. The auto trader was on on both my desktop and my phone, so what ended up happening was that the auto traders had a war against each other, one trying to sell Kobo and one trying to buy Kobo. (10x btw) so it literally both emptied my liquid and emptied out all my stacks of Kobo. She spiked to 47k that day by the way.
It was depressing but I just picked myself back up and worked harder. I didn't want a stim package because it felt cheap, even if I got fucked over simply because there's NO SERVER SIDE TRADER. HONK.

>> No.24865148

>>24864996
>Stream output is a very consistent metric for Holos if you predict it over one-two months, which is what people currently do with dividends.
please tell me when the next 5 ayame streams happen with your sheet

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>copy paste mashup a bunch of old posts
>get a load of serious reples
fascinating

>> No.24865259

>>24865234
Get (You)s with this one easy trick! Deadbeats hate him!

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>>24865074
sounds like correction might be needed...

>> No.24865464

>>24864785
nta but how did you come up with that reply when he was even telling you its not about changing your already existing stacks those stacks will still give you divs and wont make you on minus

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>>24865442
But why...

>> No.24865556

I need BBB to tell me if this is a good change or not

>> No.24865584

>>24865234
Sorry, I'm not schizo enough to recognize months old posts on an Azerbaijani HAM radio forum.
Just because they're old topics doesn't mean they can't be brought back up from time to time. Many players likely missed the original posts and could bring something new to the discussion instead of screeching "timeloop! timeloop!" over and over again.

>> No.24865604

>>24865584
Sorry, I'm not schizo enough to recognize months old posts on an Azerbaijani HAM radio forum.
Just because they're old topics doesn't mean they can't be brought back up from time to time. Many players likely missed the original posts and could bring something new to the discussion instead of screeching "timeloop! timeloop!" over and over again.

>> No.24865614

>>24865584
it's literally copyapsted from above you dingus

>> No.24865677

>>24865614
Yeah the post was too long so I didn't bother reading it.

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>>24865556
I know you're probably shitposting ironically, but I actually stopped posting with an image explicitly because of comments like this.
I don't want to be accused of throwing my weight around. My arguments should be considered because they're good arguments, not because of who I am.

>> No.24866425

>>24864966
And what will happen with the coins you bought of Holos that have streamed consistently last week? Will they vanish into the thin air? Or do you have to sell them? The game is the way it is because you have those long-time trends, and you are forced by the game's design to invest into the long-term since yeah, if I could taxlessly just have my money returned from coins I've invested into this week, I'd also consider only the current week to be important, but this isn't how the game works.

>>24865464
Simple, because he acts as if this change would make people chase "this week's divs" while it wouldn't. You need to completely destroy the trends by upping volatility and uncapping the dividends, just throw a ton of uncertainty into the system and make the CURRENT week worth something rather than "oooh, this 40k coin will give 500$ more this week, how exciting".

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>>24865464
It's because when the idea of changing divs gets brought up, of course, they'll think that they wont make any more money or will be losing hard, if they are just purely relying on popular yet doesn't stream holos. If you have read my previous posts, I did not mention Miko a single time because while she's a popular coin, she's someone who streams consistently, making her a really really good dividend coin.
I was more of thinking of using your dividends earned for this week to invest on holos that would stream consistently for this week, sell them next week if those coins will take a break, or hold them if they're still streaming consistently for the following week, not to move 50000 Suisei/Mori that are collecting dust in your wallet, but to invest for this week's dividends, like you said, those 50000 stacks would still give dividends, no reason to change that.

Though, I will stop discussing this further because I see how the players right now would hate the idea of changing dividends because the GRUG SEE MORI AND SUISEI GOOD DIVIDENDS GRUG BUY MORE GRUG HOLD FOREVER would be less effective and how the idea of giving other coins a chance instantly marks one as a "poorfag" for not metacoining and only buying said coins. Really, using poorfag as a counter argument really just highlights how spoiled the players are right now. I will just leave this discussion to the anon that started this idea about the dividends change.

>> No.24866686

>>24866511
>he can't respond to my actual arguments so he has to invent shitty arguments to put into my mouth to fight
Nice.

Also, you still don't understand that "investing in this week's dividends" won't mean shit if the dividends are left capped. If you really will invest in a 20k coin because it'll give 1k more divvies or sell a 30k coin because it won't give you 2k in divvies this week, you're fucking retarded, not to mention the fact that your money has to go SOMEWHERE, and the only way it's making profit is if it's a coin, some coin, any coin.

Do you really think I want "GRUG SEE MORI 10X GRUG SUISEI" meta when I advocate for uncapping and upping volatility? Really?

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>>24866686
You win. I can't respond to you anymore. Congratulations oh bright and rich one.

>> No.24866896

>>24859638
It's been so long since I saw a gamepost...

I quite like it, I don't see any issues with this, it adds a new angle to dividends and performance, and it quite literally can only be a good change, from what I'm seeing in the rest of the thread this devolved into:
>Music channel discussion
>This change doesn't do anything
I agree with you in >>24862188, making changes to dividends is what affects this game the most currently, as it forces everyone in the oh so dead late game start to have to rethink the way they approach strategies and spending, and I don't see how this is about music channels either, it's dividends as a whole, I don't understand why suddenly everyone is protective against a change that seems harmless and could bring back some fun.
If it really is such a dumb change as the other posters say that it won't change anything, then there is no harm in trying, it's all going to stay the same anyway, isn't it? The same goes for the "the entire game needs to be restarted/revamped/change or nothing will matter" mentality, if you don't try anything at all change will never come, it may seem small or insignificant, but you have to start somewhere, changes take time, same goes for the "I can't change my wallet fast" enough argument.

At the end of the day it's all up to the devs, if they do try out this idea they can make it as strong or as weak as needed, it's no use speculating about how the payouts will change when we have no control over that, instead focus on the good things that this promotes, it ties very well into the spirit of the game trying to make you keep up with other holos that you might have not looked at before, while also rewarding chuubas that put in the effort, it just seems nice to me all around, and if you are the superhuman sheet anon, well you might be able to predict everything and be the #1 in the game and all you dream about, but you forget that not everyone uses sheets, most play it like grug and I know I would be happy with this change, I'd even say that sheet users are the minority in Nasfaq.

May add more things later, these are my initial thoughts.

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ohhhhh rurudo

>> No.24867205

>>24866896
I agree that there has to be some change, but there are just hundreds of more viable ways of making it. Think about what this change, which I believe wouldn't change much in the end, would demand of the dev team. They'd need to rework their scraper to somehow count hours of streams and CCV since those aren't things present in Youtube's API, so it'll be jury-rigged.

They could just spice the game up by doing rebalancing changes once in a while to basically do the same thing but with much less effort. Say, double the dividends pool and make weekly sub gain 5x more valuable than it is right now for dividends, people will need to re-adjust and it'll keep them on their toes. Not every channel gets a subtick every week either, so it'll make week to week divvies more chaotic.

I agree with the sentiment of SOMETHING having to change, it's just that this is more or less the biggest time waster I've seen suggested here lately.

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>>24867205
I have a proposal: Make the stock market take into account /hfz/ fights outcomes.

>> No.24867277

>>24867248
Only in 2k22. Risu meta upcoming.

>> No.24867382

>>24867205
Yeah, I don't think you tried to understand anything.

>> No.24867407

>>24867205
But OP said to only add a:
>"number of streams/videos in a week"
I think you might need to re-read the original post.

Furthermore I don't think setting up something that looks for a change in the total amount of videos in a channel would be that hard.

And what you are proposing is even worse, I can understand if you want more money, but that's only going to make the good coins even better.

I really feel like you are arguing in bad faith.

>> No.24867419

ohhhh I wanna make BBB my wife

>> No.24867440

>>24867382
I don't think you understand anything.

>> No.24867494

>>24865552
why not...?

>> No.24867543

>>24867407
>that's going to make good coins even better
Do yourself a favor and look at holopoi numbers sometimes.

>> No.24867638

>>24867419
just be tall, blonde, and have huge tits

>> No.24867678

>>24867419
2 meters and up females only. Sorry, anon.

>> No.24867714

>>24867248
>tits on Gura
I'm gonna vom

>> No.24867741

>>24867543
So you ignore the rest of the post, got it.

And don't be delusional, top 4 most subbed holos are Gura, Mori, Pekora, Marine, geee I wonder if one would have a big stack of this coins? How did they get to the top anyway? Surely they didn't do it by getting subs faster than anyone else right? That be stupid, oh look! Suisei has had 30k subs in the last 30 days! Isn't her growth amazing?

All your are asking for is for already good coins to be even better and for Gura meta to return.

>> No.24867818

>>24859638
Seems like good, balance and fun idea overall. Something even worth trying if I may say so. There really are underrated holos that tries their best and really enjoys streaming that it doesn't really reflect their prices or too low for what they are really worth. You have my support for this idea.

>> No.24867833

>>24867741
anon the entire point of that post was basically asking for a metric that tracks how many streams theyve done in a week and using that as a factor for dividends. i don't know how that inherently implies that those big coins will do better? all of the chuubas you listed havent streamed much recently and the change would make them lower

>> No.24867854

>>24867741
And she has 0 subs in the past week. Meanwhile Lui has 22k in the past 30 days and 4k in her last week.

>> No.24867941

>>24867741
Pretty sure you're just arguing with Frieren, Anon.

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Just opened this thread and did NOT read a SINGLE fucking post above mine. Start talking about Towa. NOW.

>> No.24868008

>>24867833
I think he was talking about your post's idea, if you're who he is giving (You), not about the dividends change. I'm hoping you're a different anon because if not, you seem all over the place.

>> No.24868014

More nasfaq tomodachi life clips, please

>> No.24868025

>>24868008
i'm a different anon

>> No.24868070

>>24867833
I agree with the change, the other guy is saying that tying to subs is a better idea, delusional.

>>24867854
Umm I'm sorry anon, but my super secret sheet tells me that this an anomaly and that the growth of the top 4 will be better in the long run :)

At least be consistent with your posts, no wonder you are against consistent holos being good when you can't do that yourself.

>> No.24868157
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>>24867960
I want to cum on towa

>> No.24868206

>>24867941
Pretty sure its just Tampa.

>> No.24868262

>>24867941
>>24868206
For me it's triangle, Tampa doest use sheets, know it all attitude and is scared shitless because all he does is abuse Mori

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Does it really matter who you're talking to? Just argue their points, not the person, that's the entire point of this thread.

>> No.24868331

>>24868206
>>24868262
You're both wrong, it has to be BBB. In fact, this is a strategic false flag and is in fact BBB arguing with himself.

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Just opened this thread and did NOT read a SINGLE fucking post above mine. Start talking about Ina. NOW.

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namedropping is gay

>> No.24868384

>>24868351
I miss Ina so much
I hope she has a great break and can properly rest

>> No.24868483

>>24868383
avarice

>> No.24868499

>>24868304
Don't think it's possible to argue this one Twap. The other one doesn't even try to understand the point of the idea despite saying that he does. It's more apparent because he always try to force his idea instead saying it's better after saying he understood the point of the change

>> No.24868504

I hate Towa, no wonder Coco quit, sharing a gen with such a leech must be horrible. I hate her so much I might START smoking.

>> No.24868521

>>24868383
Ava, play Dal Segno if you haven't already. Good VN.

>> No.24868538

>>24868070
>he doesn't understand how time works
It's okay anon, you've already told us all you're retarded, you don't need to try anymore.

But in the event you don't understand, then let me ask you this, who grows faster? A 781k channel over 36 weeks or a 1940k channel over 151 weeks?

>> No.24868547

>>24868504
Don't!!! Towa smokes too, if you do that you'll be just like her...

>> No.24868576

>>24868070
Oh, also, I'm not saying that tying it to subs is a better idea, it's still a shitty idea, just that it'll have a similar effect

>> No.24868609

>>24868538
newfag to hololive? literally look at gura's numbers and growth, 3M before anyone else got 2M, will get to 5 before any of your precious small channels even get to 1M

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>>24868483
you're gay
>>24868521
it's been on my backlog for a while now

>> No.24868635

Thread is more retarded than usual today!

>> No.24868656

>>24868609
Oh no, the metacoins will change but not in the way I want them to!!

>> No.24868671

>>24858240
bad luck there m8, I'll come challenge you properly soon

>> No.24868795

>>24868538
Sure thing warden of time, I'm sure that growth will be steady and beat the 4 top dogs of hololive I can't wait :)

And your change breaks IPOs even more, really nice ideas you have.
>>24868576
It literally does not, you really are arguing in bad faith, there is no other possibility at this point.

>> No.24868805

>>24868610
>>24868521
>playing vn
you're lower than trash

>> No.24868863

>>24868805
Anon is scared of reading...

>> No.24868908

>>24868863
no, that's my whole point imagine spending hundred of hours on a vn just get a book or read it nigga

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>>24868805
You just can't appreciate a good moege

>> No.24868996

>100 new posts in a few hours
B-buy Aki?

>> No.24869034

>>24868996
Oh, and please bid on Kiara's hat

>> No.24869041

>>24867941
>>24868206
>>24868262
>>24868331
Whoever it is. This has to be the most despicable anon I've seen for a while including wojakposters. I have rarely seen a man so full of himself that he doesn't even try to understand anything and so against a harmless idea just because he didn't like it

>> No.24869054

>>24868908
What do you think a VN is?
You know you don't have to listen to the voice acting right? You can just read it as if it's a book if you want?

>> No.24869232

>>24868992
no I fucking can't
>>24869054
I know but they are still shit to me, probably just not my kind fo stuff

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>>24869232
There's no need to shit on moege just because you're too low IQ to appreciate it

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>>24816330
Thanks for response.
>What error message do you get?
When NASFAQ is unreachable, I get pic related. Turning on VPN helps. Usually it goes back to normal after some time and I can turn VPN off.
>reCAPTCHA
Here's a thing. reCAPTCHA pretty much always stops working on the next day after installing the VPN extension. And immediately goes back to normal after deleting said extension.
That's about it.

>> No.24870272

>>24869041
Mikofag is a self-admitted /pol/ fag who's proud of it being his home board. It's not that surprising there are wojack posters here

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>>24868996

>> No.24870388

>>24870339
I won't buy Towa, and you won't buy Aki?

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>>24870388
I just wanted to listen to soda desu, buy whatever your heart desires.

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>>24870520
Posting Sora is a good idea

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my name is lofi and I approve of this thread

>> No.24871155

>>24859638
Great efforpost, I like the idea, too bad devs won't say anything at all until 5 months have passed and we get a new update that adds a seasonal item

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Speaking of which... I can't remember the last time I had to gacha or buy a hat...

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