/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Ah, peace

>>24806905
Dropping the S (shark) from SNOT in their collab title made me chuckle a bit.
I wonder what her deal is, I’m guessing she’s waiting for them to come to her or something?

Another day, another Migold

>>24807003
Gura has severe social anxiety, she literally can't eat in public or in front of people, even her own family.

i'm going to run out of good miko art for the op at this rate

The Summer of Miko

>>24806929
Who cares about viewers when he's making more money than 90% of JP Nijis and Holos

The only bad seeds from council is Bae and Sana

>>24807003
the first one was planned when she had covid and the second one when she was at the con

>>24807003
She has the con this week. So it overlaps with their schedule. Probably doesn't want them to wait for her

>>24807003
For yesterday? She was just doing con related stuff literally hours before the (S)NOT collab.

>>24807073
I still think Mumei is the least interesting least talented member of Council.

Also, before tallies get posted, you should know that with this Hololive officially wins May, the next days are now to decide by how much

>>24807029
>Migold
>Migo
>35
>35old
If you're above age 35, you're old.

>>24807134
Hololive has won every month this year huh

>>24807156
at this point the only chance nijis have is in august

>>24807063
>summer
It's spring (everywhere that's relevant), anon.

>>24807070

https://twitter.com/utsugiuyu/status/1528768047368249344
Persona permissions?

>>24806934
she always has been but people seem to forget/dont know about her other channel (the one before the meme singing one) which was a small colored horse channel which had a number of complaints from other small horse content creators because she would not send her part for her collabs

>>24807035
kek, I also believe this. I doubt we'll get any 3D studio live from her. Probably dragging the whole myth too.

>>24807128
too bad the numbers don't agree with you, huh

>>24807175
What happens in August? New Nijis?

When people say Kobo is doing amazing and is top X in Y category, are they saying she's doing great as is or for an ID?
Not shitposting, just curious

>>24807070
Chloe has earned more than him though, and she's gonna have a 3D debut soon. If she reaches $1M first, then Vox's SC achievements is invalid. He's fighting, streaming 6 times a week spamming asmrs for a girl who doesn't stream as much and hids her most valuable contents under members lol.

>>24807280
Baseball autism

>>24807263
what the fuck ? atlus ? giving permission ?

>>24806929
Do we pretend 7.7k is bad in the EN side now

>>24806905
I know we call Kobo an ID Gura but honestly, Gura needs a work ethic like Kobo.

>>24807280
niji koshien babyyy

>>24807287
ID wise

>>24807315
>>24807304
103.50

>>24807313
I'm pretty sure that would've actually led to an early graduation from stress.

>>24807287
i guess both.
3-4k CCV median as a corpo chuuba is very good.

>>24807263
please no, i've literally seen persona kill channels before

>>24807313
The whole EN needs work ethics in general

>>24807313
not to excuse gura, but kobo is new to streaming and is having the blast of her life. to gura it's just a regular job now that she's been doing for years, and she should probably find another profession to get her spark back in life

>>24807287
If you're talking about the VOD views, that's company-wide. Not many Holos can get those consistently high views after the fact

>>24806886
She's like mythia, she mostly attracts the indogs shitters who will get fed up with her by the end of the year, unless she starts coombaiting which would then make her incline massively.

>>24807292
Chloe is a bad comparison, she's the next in line to become a top 5 SC Holo. She's the next Lamy.

>>24807287
CCV? Great as an ID
VOD though? Great as is

>>24807351
This desu, i find it endlessly funny that Kiara is the one saying that they should take regular breaks so they do not overwork themselves but ends up doing some of the most hours in that branch.

>>24807287
She's outperforming every holo that isn't Gura/Mori/Pekora/Marine/Subaru/Miko/Suisei all the while with one hand tied behind her back.

>>24807287
She's doing amazing for an ID, unprecedented success for the region. She's also doing very well in general but obviously she's not at the top.

>>24807313
>EN
>work ethics
kek westerners are a lazy bunch

>>24807263
Why do the homos get the best manager in the company

I think at this point, Hololive has perfected the CGDCT Anime streamer format. The fact that Nijisanji is absolutely dependent on King and Chinman to compete and are getting mogged by their own side branch points to them losing ground in the local market. Internationally, as long as Gura exist HoloEn will always reign over the international markets. I do wonder whether an outside competitor can shake the landscape like how we went from Upd8 to Nijisanji to Hololive? Or if we're now at a point where Hololive is like Microsoft where they are now the de facto leader and are literally too big to fail?

>>24807313
Lazy brat.

>>24807411
new rrat, kiara continuously says this to everyone so eventually she ends up being the only one streaming so she wins by default

>>24807357
no excuse, Miko has been doing it for longer and look at her

>>24807411
Kiara tells that to JP and Mori/Ina (they do work hard but it’s towards their roommate shit).

>>24807441
Oh fuck off, this coming from the branch with Risu in it? SEAniggers, you dont think you guys have good work ethics in your jungle nations, right? They don't seem to help

>>24807346
>3-4k CCV median
Kobo has much more than that. That's her floor for SC readings.

>>24807485
>literally too big to fail
despite the recent publicity/interests vtubing in general is still too small of a niche to have a company thats too big too fail

>>24807485
i don't know, i still think a couple of poorly treated graduations at a bad time could really do significant damage

>>24807380
She's better than mythia from the start
>No coombait content (not yet, she will do roleplay content in her membership but you'll have to pay)
>Already surpassed her both in CCV and VOD
>Actually entertaning
>Got more e-celebs and real life ID Idols shilling her
>Boosted her genmates indirectly
>Not an apex retard

>>24807527
I mean EN branch at this point is just a bunch of risu's and ayame lite's

>>24807485
>too big to fail?
Are you trying to make a new "nothingburger"?

>>24807485
all it takes is some new japanese law to fuck everything up

>>24807287
She's beating the aces of Japan's latest gens on average views per video, why else do you think the salty jpfags are upset again like they were with Gura lmao

>>24807287
Her sub growth is the fastest among all holo members
VOD wise she's also at the top
CCV wise she's middle of the table that can get 10k-15k
Superchat wise she's on the weaker side but she has social buzz
Pick related is sub growth comparison with Council and HoloX

>>24807411
Sad part is that Kiara's effort doesn't really translate into viewers for herself, though I guess Kiara debuff herself in other ways.

>>24807527
kek Sana.

>>24807485
Susan can snap them out of youtube if she really wants it.

>>24807485
I don't care about SC. I don't care about merch. I don't care about collabs. I don't care about views. I only care about company finances, and Anykara made 2
50 billion yen to Cover's 15 billion. I am the ultimate number fag and I say Nijisanji is the real titan.

>>24807666
damn, i forgot how brutal those culls were

>>24807485
a couple of successive graduations due to health from their pillars could transform hololive to holosanji in a matter of months

>>24807711
>15 billion.
you paid for covers financial report this year? please send

>>24807711
Anon, Covers financial report hasn’t leaked yet

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>19,777: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,227: Vox (Nijisanji)
>9,837: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,922: Amelia (Hololive)
>5,236: Pomu (Nijisanji)

>>24807773
Collabs shouldn't count

>>24807804
Be careful so you don't overdose on that cope.

>>24807773
>5 entries with a 5k cutoff
when are you finally killing yourself

>>24807581
i said for corpo chuubas, generally, anon.

I never realized Okayu's avatar was this chunky did they change it recently?

>>24807664
Looks like you are projecting yourself there.

>>24807773
EN GOLD SO FAR FOR MAY

1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)
3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)
4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)
5. Sara (PRISM) - 43,543 (Minecraft)
6. Kiara (Hololive) - 17,514 (Fashion Design Battle w/Ina)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 21,445 (Gorn)
8. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 14 044 (Voice Training! Collab)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 13,928 (Minecraft)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 16,164 (Happy's Humble Burger Farm)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 24,414 (Minecraft)
12. Kronii (Hololive) - 20,765 (Minecraft)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 41,544 (Off-collab)
14. Vox (Nijisanji) - 19,196 (Yume Nikki collab w/Ike)
15. Uki (Nijisanji) - 25,770 (Karaoke Relay)
16. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 25,289 (Mario Party collab w/Vox, Luca, Ike)
17. Baelz (Hololive) - 17,916 (Minecraft w/Gura, Ina, Mumei, Ame)
18. Gura (Hololive) - 19,754 (Taiko No Tatsujin)
19. Gura (Hololive) - 21,035 (Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion)
20. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,641 (Unarchived Karaoke w/Vox, Luca)
21. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,591 (Handcam Cooking w/Vox)
22. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 15,249 (Voice Training w/Uki, Selen, Reimu, Shoto)
23. Fauna (Hololive) - 19,777 (Off-Collab Zatsu w/Kronii and Mumei)

Hololive - 11
Nijisanji - 11
Others - 1

>>24807804
wouldn't that disqualify most of niji EN then?

>>24807773
>>24807903
kys

>>24807773
>Pomu 5k
I'm glad Pomu is doing well. She was always my favorite from the first gen and she never had any bad personality traits like Rosemi and Finana and she didn't go full Nijimale onahole like Nina and Reimu.

>>24807804
Literally how the fuck would this rule work with nijien, you'd disqualify 90% of their streams. Pretty sure only Ike was not a collab today, would bet real money someone joined Vox in VC

>>24807591
>>24807641
Maybe I worded that wrong. What I'm getting at is if Cover has reached a point where they can basically tank any new challengers, regardless of whatever new format they bring in to the landscape. Upd8 failed to adapt to the streaming Meta and Nijisanji was late to the party when it came to courting the international audiences seriously. Will Cover meet the same fate as those two, especially knowing how they can be quite rigid.

>>24807804
Let's post some of his lewds for the EN gold then, nijisis!

>>24807287
>ID
absolutely top dog for ID, she's not even on vtuber level, but also fleshtuber
>Holo
actually pretty damn good, I would say in big10, she's even attracting chinese fujo right now

>>24807527
149 ID streams. 119 EN streams. 2 less members btw.

>>24807932
You have that kind of mentality but still stick around?

>>24807903
Is the nijien offpako over or do they still have some numbers in the tank?

>>24807380
>mythia
mythia initially inclined because of her coomerbait model, content, and personality anon. then there goes the e-celeb and general streamer shilling. so it's not comparable nor applicable to kobo, yet.

>>24807932
I watched a bit of Pomu, but then didn't have time for any niji with council debuting, other than to catch a couple clips, and yeah, she's fine. (Now luxiem has infected niji EN clips, that I unfortunately have to blacklist them.)
What's wrong with Rosemi? Never watched, just curious

>>24807903
I thought Nimu won once?

>>24807979
What can I say, I really like her.

>>24807899
keep seething nijinigger

Like i said before
Just fucking removed EN tally already!!

Too many cope and seeth in this board came from EN Tally alone.

Get rid of if and bait post/falseflagger will decrease tenfoth.

>>24807943
>Cover has reached a point where they can basically tank any new challenger
Nope a new vtuber company with actual backing and not Verse backing from a major corpo will literally steamroll all the current vtuber corporations

>>24807985
holy shit look at that.

>>24807978
Why are ENs like this?

>>24808103
are those taiwan fujos or west taiwan fujos?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>87,507: Miko (Hololive)
>60,001: Roboco (Hololive)
>35,276: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>32,106: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
>21,100: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,264: Fauna (Hololive)
>16,749: Roboco (Hololive)
>15,425: Mio (Hololive)
>14,599: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,114: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,386: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,923: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,934: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,513: Nene (Hololive)
>10,169: Vox (Nijisanji)

Another gold for Miko, and a record high stream by Roboco

>>24808101
Sonybros we got this.

>>24808161
i'm not sure.
probably mixed?

>>24807287
I would say she's doing good as an ID, her vods might be high because most Indonesian prefer watching replay than livestream. So far, she is a rising star for an ID chuuba. I'm interested on how far would she incline.

>>24808167

>>24808167
>Record stream
>Still can't win
RBC is a joke.

>>24808090
Who are you even addressing? Who can remove the EN Tally?

>>24808167
9 holos
4 nijis
1 np 1 indie
top 10 6-3-1 for holos, holo gold
rather skinny day aside from the big streams

>>24808167
Was 19264 really the peak recorded i swear to god i saw it hit 19600~ a few times

>>24808101
I wonder what would happen if Disney or someone like that tried to get into vtubing.

>>24808179
fourth time is the charm

So is Kiara going to be the only HoloEN streaming today? Jesus what's with these lazy fucks.

>>24808167
ELITE

>>24808118
lazy and no work ethic. You know it's bad when 5% Mori has more stream hours than a lot of them

>>24808161
>>24808103
>NT
>Traditional chinese
Probably just some normal Taiwanese fans.
You know Holo is like a state religion in Taiwan right?

>>24808267
as per tally anon's rules, it's the liveranking peak unless it changes the standings, it might be higher on other websites

>>24808267
I have 19777 but if it doesn't change positions it's not worth fixing live-ranking peak

>>24808267
If it doesn't change the placement, numbers are directly taken from whatever liveranking records, otherwise it'll take too much time comparing which site have the most peak for each and every stream that made it to the tally

>>24808276
Ame is supposedly streaming too.

>>24808167
G E N E R A T I O N
Z E R O

>>24808167
>Roboco
>collab
>Miko
>used other Holos likeness so essentially a collab
Yep, I'm thinking they don't count and Kuzuha actually won the Gold today. Putting it down for Niji in my book.

>>24808307
Nijinigger hands typed this

>>24806720
I don't even watch Rosemi but I fucking love Rose bait threads.
It's a special brand of schizo and it's highly entertaining reading all the cope from both sides.

>>24808345
>>24808348
>>24808357

Understandable i was just wondering if i was seeing things

>>24808167
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

Hololive wins May

>>24808161
this is when chinkfujos start to compare vox with kobo at their own site
some of them ended up likes kobo and awakened their maternal instinct

>>24808392
prove me wrong

>>24808389
Thank you for confirming that you don't even watch him.

>>24808167
What did this Tsukasa person do to get this high?

>>24808441
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
101x: Hololive
33x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha, Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata
4x: Marine, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>24808455
niji deflection

>>24808179
Sony is fucked in the vtubing scene though
>>24808270
Disney would steamroll the current vtuber scene so bad that it wouldnt even be funny, I mean the idea that a chuuba could cameo in one of their movies would kill /#/

>>24808455
It's a little unbecoming, to become so dry of competitiveness you have to try to invent some within the adversary own roster
A little sad even

>>24808441
holo domination, death to nijisanji! death to the CCP!

>>24808441
>Hololive wins May
you know who to thank

>>24808167
>32,106: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)
wait hold up wasnt he part of that anycolor project?

>>24808493
Mahjong tournament

>>24808493
He's playing and hosting a Mahjong championship, I think official too

So how did a literal who from Prism project get 40k ccv?

>>24808510
Not even a movie, just put it in Kingdom Hearts.

>>24808493
He's male Sio.

>>24808578
bots

>>24808569
formerly

>>24808578
Bots

>>24808578
actual botting, with vod slash and everything, pretty funny day i'd say

>>24807070
FASTEST GROWING VTUBER not working for ya anymore?

>>24808167
Another great stream from Miko today as well!

>>24808270
Disney would mog Hololive harder than Hololive mogs Niji

>>24808579
putting giving a chuuba a 5 second cameo in one of their superhero movies would do bigger numbers than kh

>>24808161
It's traditional Chinese so TW

>>24808495
So Miko is guaranteed to pass Kuzuha this week. She will do at least one more WWE stream and then she has her 3D Live.

>>24808569
"Was" is they key word. Doesn't say when, but the wiki also mentions it as if the Niji thing is something from the past.

>>24808550
Yeah, Kanata.

>>24808569
kek, yeah, along with Fairys on NIJISANJI NETWORK, no? Back when Nijisanji still saw itself more like upd8, providing software and guidance and some branding but allowing the streamer to be his own thing

>>24808620
>actual botting
Why do you say that as if Cover doesn't bot every single fucking day?

>all blue holo are in top 5 except lamy
lamy should unironically change to blonde color at this point and join in the low tier shitters rather than desperately trying to fit in to the top

>>24807411
also funny that Subaru took this advice and started reducing her OFF-STREAM work in order to find more time to stream.

>>24808666
Nijikeks are funny to read.

>>24808685
where did lamy touch you anon
can you point it in a doll

>>24808685
BLUE WOMEN SUYOI

>>24808167

>>24808267
EN Gold guy has it at 19,777. I'm pretty sure EN Gold guy uses vrabi and overall Gold guy uses live-ranking.

>>24808322
Kobo is a hot topic in Taiwanese hololive community.
Kinda funny that they can't understand what is she saying most of the time but still love her kek.

>>24808629
>>24808639
makes me wonder if vtubing would somehow become very big in NA do you think stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAehjwHcBHkTaybz53emqpg would be the meta there?

>>24808685
Isn't blue supposedly a calming color for autists?

>>24807804
c'mon man, quoting from the cope list? too obvious.

>>24808760
just like back then when foreigner viewers can't understand japanese.

>>24808791
Gimme the full list

>>24808644
At this rate she'll end up top before Pekora and Aqua return to regular streaming

>>24808764
wtf, get that disgusting 2view out of here

>>24808043
just type "rose" into the catalog, there'll always be one thread and a bunch of schizos who will have a big copypasta of all the shit Rosemi did wrong.
It's endlessly entertaining.

It will never happen but id love to see the flip flop of holonigger opinions on a nijien girl if she was ever poached. Revisionism of their opinions on that girl in hindsight would be wild

>>24808782
Kobo's brother is autist so that's make sense

>>24807804
The recent Niji gold's are disqualified than by that logic.

>>24808812
Yeah but people watch anime and get a general sense. Plus Japanese has clearly defined and audible syllabes so it's easy on the ears. Indonesian sounds like gibberish.

>>24807943
>they can be quite rigid
Historically, Cover isnt rigid.
>Sora - 3D was one of the better ones at the time
>mito and nijisanji introduces live 2d and streaming
>live2d 1st gen introduced
>Ai opens China
>holo follows (in an idiotic fashion)
>western interest builds up then chinkflu locks everybody in
>release holoEN
These are all done in a matter of months, which is quite fast for a nip company. If Cover didnt set the trend like in holoEN then they will follow the money as soon as they can justify the numbers.

>>24808760
I get where they are coming from since i dont know a shit of nippon yet i watch migo religiously

>>24808101
If we have learned anything from the VTuber scene in the past years, it is that
> throwing money at it
doesn't give you any returns.
The more you shill, the less people will be interested.

Marketing tactics only work if the general population becomes interested in something.
And shilling anime-related stuff to the mass public?
Good fucking luck with that.

>>24808846
Are the copypasta correct at least? From here it looks pretty dire.

>>24807988
Their off pako is pretty is over.

>>24808867
Only Rosemi and Pomu would be allowed in Hololive. The rest are used good whores. Especially someone like fucking Nina. She would be crucified it she came to EN.

>>24808883
then i guess they are there purely for her personality and shenanigans.

>>24808685
>views 12m
>last 7 days views, 12m
Hmmmmm, was this because she got terminated?

>>24808904
Cope

>>24808913
I could see disney doing it though that is if they commit to it 100% unlike sony

>>24808949
yes it also fucked the sub counter for a couple days

>>24808441
> Niji with 7 golds
> with potentially 2-3 more
color me surprised, I was doomposting them after they secured just two golds last thread.
I guess all the top holos taking a break helps.

>>24809020
Gura took a break?

>>24808867
You realize people here bitch about half of holoen right? Why do you expect an ex niji to be openly loved when it's controversial to say you love Mori, Kiara, Sana etc?

>>24808578
yeah... totally 40k...

>>24809045
When has she not

>>24808167
my lord....

Kaela is getting almost 3k fishing in micra.
i guess she's actually the same tier as zeta goddamn. ID3 is truly strong compared to their senpais.

>>24808834
## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312 >>24804708)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

And when all else fails...
> #45 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #46 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 <span class="deadlink">>>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831</span>

Can anyone confirm if giftsub is out for all JP? Or is it still just for some selected ones?

>>24808922
Most of the first half will be, but as it gets longer and longer there might be schizo ramblings at the end.

>>24808867
If she actually streamed more consistently than the current EN then the flipflopping would be justifiable If they just transform into sana 2.0 then its just pure cope at that point

Patra ASMR +19k. Especially strong this week

>>24809078
Kaela/Koyori, I love my hard working hags.

>>24809111
none of the gen 1 girls have it

>>24809091
Cringe

>>24809078
Kaela autism hag stronk

>>24809145
FPK?

>>24809078
ID3 is the peak, there's no way ID4 produces something bigger than Kobo.

>>24808867
I think most of them would do fine in Holo EN except Nina and Finana. Petra and Reimu would be bored like Sana but they wouldn't be disliked by normal fans.

>>24809111
Migo and Roboco had gifted subs on on their recent streams.

>>24809091
Based

>>24809091
Still don't get why Nijis got zero shit for those leaked discord messages. Well it's not like NijiEN and Hololive EN ever collab or interact anyway but still.

So JP already won with their 2nd string and EN are tied with NijiEN off collab already over? Why were people panicking again? Ange remains the only thing they possess that I desire.

>>24809139
wonder if that sudden bot spike affected the algorithm and recommended her more like how that brit used the raid function to screw with the algorithm

>>24809091
I think i was even around when the "dead cat bounce"-cope was born, but whatever the hell did it come from? A pet dying and supposedly causing increase in CCV or what?

>>24809175
still not sure. weebs had just accepted vtuber scene recently. they could actually incline again if someone like kobo and/or better hired.

>>24809157

>>24809243
its a /biz/ meme

>>24808978
Definitely possible in NA, and probably some part of Japan too.
But Disney won't have the advantage that holos have, of being able to play down the lore and discuss IRL incidents (like studio visits, interactions with other holos etc.).

Disney chuubas are very likely to be strictly professional, 100% dedicated to the kayfabe. Streaming will be hell for them, so I don't see them going down that path.
More likely case is creation of "vtubers", sucking off the "vtuber" audience (not the hololive audience, obviously) and then doing the same pre-recorded content that they already do.

They'll probably get big numbers either way, but there won't be any audience overlap, same as the current situation.

>>24809311
Disney is extremely woke now and weebs hate woke culture, it would be a mess.

>>24809139
Maybe her Live boosted her ASMR

>>24809234
Fujos and LARPers we're shitposting and baiting nonstop basically. The moment Miko returned from her vacation and NijiEN returned from their offpako all shitposters clammed up and stopped.

>>24809157

>>24809233
Nijisanji defense force is very good at dismissing anything that might hurt their chuuba's reputation

>>24809175
>>24809258
Gura/Pekora/Kobo gets peak numbers for their branch because they have the most mainstream appeal. Every successive holo has to settle for being lite versions.

>>24809311
100% going the goldship role.

>>24809145
Fubuki has it 100%, don't know about the others tho

>>24809311
They have already done it before though.

>>24809233
>Nijis got zero shit
Anon..? what universe are you from?
their reputation completely tanked among the holo audience, so much so that the nijishilling that used to be tolerated has been shut down with even a single report.

And if you're talking about the corporate side, they literally could not address it, because bringing attention to it would be the absolute worst thing they could do.

>>24809311
Disney will have the first openly trans Arab 1 legged chuuba.

>>24809385
Pekora hasn't been the peak of JP for a while.

>>24809385
Gura can be topped. There's only been two gens. They just need someone with a lot of Charisma. Like imagine if Belle Delphine or Nyanners joined EN3.

>>24809233
Because that level of yab isn't enough to destroy the branch but it's enough to make relationships between the branches and fans awkward. Petra's mistake just made possible collabs disappear. Their motivations in joining Vtubing is no longer there anymore, wanting to Collab with their idols.

>Lazulight wanting to become EN chuubas in the hopes of collabing with HoloJPs but can't
It's like going to art school wanting to create art but they're teaching you art that only makes money or an engineering degree like me who's passion is making stuff but the skills they teach are only good to get jobs. Hololive is still holding onto that Soul while Nijisanji already sells them to the chinks.

>>24809415
What are you talking about? The Hololive subreddit seems totally fine with all the Nijishilling. Especially in that recent Kanauru post with Finana

>>24809426
Uh, anon? She still has the highest CCV and vod views by far. She even has the most golds this fucking month.

Anyone want some poop story
>>24809211

>>24809333
I mean, the VTuber audience is small enough that one major corpo branch's existing audience was completely taken over by a few Chinese girls.
You could see normalfags invading this board to discuss Disney chuubas, getting mad about all the gore and loli posting, and changing the board culture as a whole just by having more people.
Will depend a lot on who the moderation team sides with in that case.

>>24809468
Has Lazulight even shown any interest in Hololive JP? Those rejects should have applied to HoloEN2 if they really cared. Pomu definitely would have gotten in over Mumei.

Here is an interesting chart
>30 days median of peak CCV, Hololive JP
JP girls are reaching their high point in 2022 so far, and with that it would be the third highest point since 2021, trailing only
>Coco graduation
>HoloX debuts

>>24809410
> Leia VTuber
kek, I wish they actually did something like that, it would be fucking hilarious to see all the swfags seething.

>>24809311
Disney also heavily lacks in the trust and respect department on the internet compared to the normal general populace IRL. Compared to even Hololive and Nijisanji plenty of people from the get go would be weary of any chuuba Disney puts out and likely would be considered the absolutely most souless corporate attempt at trend hopping yet.

>>24809435
>Belle Delphine or Nyanners
that sounds terrible. why would I want Vshojo

>>24809466
Kanauru is a known unityfag and doesn't exclusively shill NijiEN (his oshi is Pikamee iirc) so he's still tolerated for the most part.

>>24809410
I guess we will see if they would be able to weather the storm of vtuberfans who has clearly shown that changing the person behind the vtuber is NG.

>>24809538
Elira is a Pekora fan iirc

>>24808167

>>24809435
Where is the charisma in those two?

>>24809472
Let me know when Pekora can pull Miko tier numbers with a regular gaming stream.

>>24809538
>>24809435
bait

>>24809234
I want the Racoon as well

>>24809504
Kobo is a Junfag confirmed. To be both Windah's onahole and a Junfag is quite the feat.

>>24809673
Is what Miko is doing "a regular gaming steam"?

>>24809504
I mean, isn't it kinda normal for kids? It's assumed that they're both still kids or something if Kobo didn't event notice it. I put a cat in a freezer when I was a child, and not long after it cried loudly in there, my grandmother pulled it out. That story is still being told every year at every family gathering for me.

>>24809592
Here is something funny: much like Noel, I believe both Belle Delphine *and* Amouranth would be in their ABSOLUTELY BEST BEHAVIOUR if they ever landed into HoloEN and for an easy reason
>their main "day job" would benefit tremendously from it
while they would be opening a whole new audience for it.

It is the same reason Noel is in her best behaviour on HoloJP and Mel likewise, there is zero reason for them to kill their golden goose and nothing preventing them from continuing their side activity.
Even Calli, if you think about it, is the same. She's a retarded wigger in her "day job" but a sweet and moderately well behaved wino aunt on her Holo job because there is no downside for her to just behave and reap the rewards.

Bottom line is: Belle Delphine would be Fauna tier of well behaved on HoloEN, unironically

>>24809709
Yes.

>>24809636
If they get the normies then they can weather it out since normies dont care about stuff like those especially if they paint it so that the person behind was fired due to her social media posts etc

>>24809723
>I put a cat in a freezer when I was a child
No wonder we have such a bad reputation.

>>24808685
>#2 while on break

>>24809636
They absolutely fucking won't and by the end of it their project would be considered a flop. Disney may have infinite money to throw around but their no strangers to shutting down underperforming projects that don't make enough profits/good PR.

>>24809592
Because they wouldn't be Vshojo if they got reigned in by the corporate culture of Hololive. In terms of professionalism, Vshojo is a barren lawless wasteland, absolutely anything fucking goes. Nijisanji EN is a middle school, sure theres some kids ahead of the curve who can be mature and keep to themselves but at the end of the day its just boys and girls eager to pounce on each other and gossip. HoloEN is a holiday work party. It's a party so you can crack your jokes, be casual, drink a few beers, and have your fun but you still gotta remember you're at work.

>>24809709
You are falling for nijiniigger deflection posts.

>>24809589
Of course, which is why I mentioned that hololive's audience would not budge.
Some outer rim parts of the "western vtuber" audience and normalfags might pay attention, and even get them numbers, but even if they get like 100k CCV streams or whatever, it will still be normalfags watching.
Holo audience will be untouched.

>>24809709
I wouldn't consider her playing a giga-buff game+ a game that has rarely been seen among the vtubers a normal gaming stream. wait for Pekora to get Konami permissions so she can play some kino MGS PW or even some Yu-Gi-Oh and you'll see the numbers skyrocketing. I wouldn't consider these to be normal game streams either.

>>24809435
It might seem impossible, but Nyanners probably has an even worse work ethic than Gura.

>>24809765
Perk of being a music-focused Holo. You gain number without relying on stream

>>24809766
Disney wouldn't enter this market because of a simple reason: they never ever ever EVER EEEEVEEERR did anything for free in their whole corporate life.
Everything they do is behind a paywall: their movies, their tapes (and their famous Disney Vault), their merch, their theme parks and now their TV channel.

Wanna consume Disney products?
>PAY UP!
In advance too

>>24809732
Mori has started behaving since she had her lean arc iirc (then again I don’t really follow her closely).

>>24809504
fucking gura level of disgust

>>24809732
You were making a great point, but after saying:
>but a sweet and moderately well behaved wino aunt on her Holo job
Your post is invalidated

>>24809828
I miss her MGS streams...

>>24809832
Yes, she is. No doubt about that. Even Gura's relationship with belle was strictly professional.

>>24809778
Huh, those are pretty good analogies.

>>24809732
I wouldn't really say indirectly shilling her roommate at every opportunity as "being on my best behavior" anon.

>>24809847
Nah, she's actually well behaved from the start. She started slipping when she increase her contact with the anituber crowd which gave her terrible professional advice.
Then she stopped listening to them (near or after Holofes) and she is on her best behaviour again

>>24809435
>Belle Delphine
She only works for a week and comes back after a year.

>>24809472
Err NTA but if you mean highest CCV in solo stream then Miko beat her recently with her WWE, if you mean average CCV or median peak then Marine beat her in that regard this month (image courtesy of chart anon), and the one with most golds this month is Miko per this post >>24808441
You probably meant gold this year so far?

>>24809844
> Disney VTubers, but they only do member streams
interesting idea

>>24809832
Her work ethic( here mean work output) is kinda the same as Gura if Gura didn't have Hololive and management pushing her

If Valve weren't so deep in China's pockets, they might've collaborated with Cover to make a good VR/AR experience for HoloEN. Heck, HoloEN could just drive to Valve and do a 3D there.

>>24809897
>she is on her best behaviour again
I don't even give a fuck about anything except her numbers and even i know that she keeps making fuck ups whenever she has the chance to do so.

>>24809504
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>24809504
Hope anon made that up for (you)s

>>24809311
Whats stopping disney from acquiring hololive instead of making a new vtuber company?

>>24809906
Marine has a comeback stream and a live, god how is it comparable

>>24809435
is this a joke

>>24809977
China lol

>>24809977
Autistic japanese protectionism and Cover isn't publicly traded.

>>24809982
The delphine and nyanners was a joke, but Gura can still definitely be topped. We just need an EN Pekora.

>>24809504
And i was wonder what kind of story would Kobo tell in a member only stream. Definitely above your average Chuuba

>>24807903
>Sara
Neck yourself
>EN gold
twice

>>24809732
In the case of Belle Delphine it heavily depends on if she's willing to fully commit to a more professional and "clean" image. On one hand her entire brand is on built shock factor, actual porn, and being offensive. On the other hand though she's a shrewd business woman whose very pragmatic and can flip on when to be professional seemingly on a dime.

>>24809977
You just know Cover has turned down multi million dollars offers from big companies like Scamco and Sony to acquire Hololive.

>>24809732
Is Noel anywhere near as bad as Belle Delphine though? I know about her roommate coomerbait YouTube channel, but Belle Delphine makes porn on OnlyFans. Would Hololive even consider someone like that?

>>24809952
NTA but I think she stopped giving a shit about her stream numbers and mostly cares about her music numbers these days.

>>24809828
>>24809860
It will never happen
She had her time, now it's other Holo turn
Still wonder why she is the only Holo who have trouble getting game permissions

>>24810011
I always wondered about how autistic that protectionism is since the company that runs Disneypark JP sold its stores back to Walt Disney

>>24810068
Definitely not. If Noel actually did porn and got fucked on stream she would probably be ousted.

>>24809828
>rarely been seen
Watch streams
https://youtu.be/dFuE3f6yldA
https://youtu.be/YciElK2P9qI
https://youtu.be/uL8tJULKgKw

>>24809981
Err her live was on April 27th, anon. So that stream wasn't even included in chart anon data there. Her 4 streams are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jg31bbhyLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBqX9qIyi14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQNkU7jCGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhhknejoSDw
That's it.

>>24810043
The thing is that all holofans would be against her form the beginning as soon as they know it's her. Even if she becomes the most seiso streamer on the Earth, she would be flagged forever even before people give her a chance

>>24810056
That happened?

>>24810043
Belle Delphine whole stich is that she's an e-thot with a mysterious background. Her popularity drop down significantly after she open up more about herself and collab more with other Youtubers.

>>24809981
Those were last month. Marine's 4 streams this month were a Kanata collab, the Among Us collab, shilling the Haruhi gacha game, and a zatsu. No crazy buff content.

Just stop doomposting Pekora already. This happened at least like a dozen of times already and she always find a way to bounce back
I still trust that she know what she is doing

>>24809977
Japan itself.

>>24809732
Belle Delphine is nowhere near the same level as Noel though and the only thing close would be that tiny old rrat about how Sora was a ex jk av idol

>>24810170
Obviously we would never know, I'm just saying I believe it has happened. A company like Scamco could build them up to be a sort of counter part to their Love Live and Idolmaster 2D idol brand. Sony has already gone into the vtuber business and flopped hard.

>>24810190
>she always find a way to bounce back
Not with throat cancer and an operation which may make her loose her iconic voice and laugh though

>>24810182
>>24810131
zatsu and among us are buff

>>24810243
>Obviously we would never know
>I believe it has happened
WTF

>>24810079
You always said that the past two years about her, but went "OMG I THOUGHT SHE HAD RECLINED?!" every September/October of each year. You can literally check the archives and whenever anons(not just one samefagging btw) mentioned her decline with some other Holomember inclining at the same time, they got BTFO'd every time.

>>24810190
All she has to do for now is literally nothing. I think the best that she could have done now is taking a break. She was running out of ideas and probably oversaturated. Just take a 1month break, come refreshed and with some new games or ideas, let the fans crave after Peko's comeback, trust in your fanbase and the power of Holobox and it's all way up from there

>>24810249
Nijinigger hands typed this post

>>24809977
1. Hololive being privately traded.
2. JP laws about limited foreign ownership of Domestic companies.
3. Community which has no qualms about criticizing Cover if it feels like they're making a bad decision.
4. Company reputation relying entirely on having LITERALLY EVERY HOLO agree with the decision (the girls having any change in streaming schedule, breaks or behavioral changes on stream would spin a hundred rrats and collapse their reputation even further).
If cover sold out, they would be just yet another VTuber company that got too big for their shoes and collapsed on their own weight. Others would probably take their place, and the landscape would change quite a bit.

If it was 10 years ago, Yagoo would already have a "drinking problem" that papers would start reporting on, and eventually would have a """heart attack""" with someone completely unrelated taking over and subverting the company from within. But thankfully such times are long behind us.

>>24810300
Come on its so obvious. Big companies poach big brands from small companies all the fucking time.

>>24810127
So rarely then, you're proving my point.

>>24809732
people dislike mori or drop her because she is a fake fuck most of the time tho

>>24810330
But she is having a medical procedure done on her throat though

>>24810101
Disneypark JP was mostly American owned assets lent to the local management iirc, which is why there was no problem taking it back.

>>24810190
Eh it kinda depends this time. Will the usual Golden Time (8~9 PM JST) tourists find replacement before her return? That's probably the most deciding factor there. She got her a lot of her loyal nousagis alright, but those tourists mentioned before stayed all the time with her because of her consistency streaming in that timeslot almost everyday for nearly 2 years since her boom with MGS streams until now. Now that she's gone for awhile (1~2 months) they need to find something to fill in that gap.

>>24809709
No, but you're falling obvious bait.

>>24810344
anon, it doesn't happen that easily. Buying a company like Cover is not in the cards for any major entertainment company right now.

>>24810190
Pekora has been continuously "reclining" to higher and higher CCV since mid 2020, this isn't new.

>>24810462
>Eh
Fuck off redditor

>>24810352
Sure. Whatever makes you happy. Did you see their VODs? Explain how that makes WWE a buff game in a way that makes you feel happy

>>24810462
Its not like Pekora went completely radio silent on the internet. She still posting shorts and on twitter to keep herself relevant.

>>24810462
I trust her
She climb her way up there once, she can do it again. The only problem is if she wanted to do that again now that she is not as energetic as she used to

>>24810607
Honestly the shorts spam might hurt her channel more than help it. They're not performing well.

wait, you guys were interested about a holo routines right? Kobo said she did idol reps in the studio from 5am to 7pm today.

>>24810688
I wonder if its still related to her 500k thing?

>>24810190
This. People say this kind of shit all the time with Pekora, and in the end they all get BTFO and proven wrong one way or another. Every time.

>Miko being the new top Holo is "bait"
Why are nousagi so insecure?

>>24810688
What do you even do in a studio for 14 hours? She doesn't even have 3D

>>24810735
>implying they are nousagis and not the usual schizos falseflagging as nijiniggers using the only worth material they got today

>>24810688
>from 5 am to 7pm
Holy black-company

>>24808167

>bait about bait

>>24810711
Not sure. apparently, Risu's also been involved which is why a lot of them stream at night and overlap each other, cause they're busy doing idol reps for the majority of the day.

>Vox backing himself into a corner that people will only watch if he's selling homo shit.
Well if he wants to be the quickest to 1 million it's good but you're building up an audience that will only watch you being a online male prostitute.
Meanwhile HoloEN is free to do whatever they want without degrading themselves and pull in decent views.

>>24810068
noel does the same thing as some other youtube asmr vtubers, as in lewd sounds in revealing clothing, but no actual nudity, and certainly not porn. if that ever happened i doubt she would be working at cover anymore

>>24810762
Do they even have 3D studios in Jakarta or Indonesia period?

>>24810575
Eh.
>>24810607
Yeah at least she's still engaging with her audience, and that's a good thing.
>>24810651
Just hope her throat isn't getting worse somehow after whatever medication she's taking. How long did it take Aki to come back to streaming again?

>>24810688
Lmao, what idol reps did she do? she doesn't have a 3d model yet.

>>24810798
>backing himself
Anon, they're stuck in the corner since February at the earliest
Just look at their solo/game stream number

>>24810798
I would rather make a million dollars doing homo ERP for a 2-3 hours a day and spend the rest of it doing whatever I want instead of barely scarping six figures and playing minecraft or apex 4-5 hours a day.

>>24810874
Why does she need a 3d model to do idol reps?

>>24810805
She may not be getting fucked on camera, but what she does would still be classified as porn.

>>24810857
Where else do you think they record ID 1st gen performance for Holofes

>>24810766
If you're earning 5 figures a month, that's the minimum amount of effort you should take unless you want to go for the whore route like Rushia and Vox. It doesn't mean that she needs to train all day in a week though. K-pop idol training goes much worse than this to the point you need to dance for hours under starvation.

>>24810874
why do you need a 3d model to learn how to dance?

>>24810860
According to her it's still salvageable. We will wait for Marine, if even she can recover then there's no reason Pekora can't
She got a personal doctor to monitor her condition and all. Plus the break was sooner than planned (Thanks to Marine) so it help too

>>24810932
Just use hired dancers in Japan to do the mocap for them.

>>24810680
Better than nothing
She got nothing else to post on her channel. No musics, no...nothing

>>24810979
Honestly bless Marine for talking sense into her. Otherwise she would have kept going with Elden Ring and whatnot where she claims she doesn't scream a lot or as much (she does) and further ruined her throat.

>>24810988
even Moona talked about dancing reps, this mocap is a dumb rrat

>>24811060
Ironic considering Marine keeps putting off her own surgery

Years of watching Youtube make me realize that the quickest way to raise your sub count is from Coomer baiting or pandering to actual children (barely 2 digit). Combine these 2 formula should've give you the best consistent growth method but too bad most countries would have lock you up before you can execute it.

>>24810979
yeah from how she describes it they might just be small benign throat nodules so she should be able to recover but it might take her longer to come back if she would require surgery though

>>24810588
>https://youtu.be/dFuE3f6yldA
Funny that you don't even know the context. There are other 3 streams from the same 24h endurance stream with higher vod views
>https://youtu.be/YciElK2P9qI
150k is considered buff? She literally has Apex streams with higher vods
>https://youtu.be/uL8tJULKgKw
Retard, it's not even 100k

>>24811067
Do you understand the concept of lying

>>24810932
If that's the case then Cover is not letting them do any lives from their own 3D studios until they get their 3D debut lives from Hololive's main studio in Japan

>>24807263
oh cool, the homos get to be the labrat again

>>24811101
Marine's throat is already all healed, her problem right now is just working with a vocal coach to ensure it doesn't happen again.

>>24811101
She literally saw Pekora going down the same path as her and go "Hold up, you might want to reconsider it"

>>24811049
Sadly true.
Suisei on break: posts cover that gets on trending
Marine on break: posts shorts that get 1m
Pekora... give her some suggestions bros

>>24810909
Are you burger? What is with you people disdain towards anything sex-related?
The stuff that Noel's RM does is pretty tame for nips standard, just look at gravure shots on fucking manga magazine there

>>24811121
Somebody post the Pekora and Ina dancing webm

>>24809173
>>24809397
gamers, not gen 1

>>24811111
I fucking hate Youtube kid stuffs. Now you have to be careful not to get you video flagged as "for kid" because it straight up disable your comments follow with a ton of debuff

>>24811111
>Years of watching Youtube make me realize that the quickest way to raise your sub count is from Coomer baiting or pandering to actual children
those two are not that profitable compared to before though if you want to raise your sub count then localbaiting is a good number booster especially if you are from abroad and target sea nations

>>24811179
Reminds me of the day chinman won and some anon brought up junior idols. I’m surprised that’s allowed.

>>24811111
>>24811215
That reminds me, why don't we ever talk about that one multimillion sub vtuber who got a design by Lamys artist

>>24810936
Yeah. no
Labor laws in ID is pretty strict for a 3rd world country

>>24811155
Its hard cause her niche is her voice which she needs to rest
They could use old unused vids and use the audio on those for shorts

>>24811271
converted and prerecorded videos

>>24811271
They're boring? Not like i've checked out their content before cuz the Kid tag filter me hard.

>>24807263
Shinove I kneel once again

>>24811121
Your mom was lying about loving you too btw.

>>24811111
>Combine these 2 formula should've give you the best consistent growth method
>implying
those type of vids (webcam from march) are still in youtube and they are 3views tier

>>24811346
nta but that would have been better desu

>>24811155
Her specialization is livestreaming. She's never really tried to do much of anything else. Not music, or shorts, or anything else really. All she can really do right now is what she's currently doing, particularly interacting with her fans on Twitter.

>>24810214
Wait what how is that a thing? I know it's a rrat but the only holos i know that have a rrat about being jav idol is Miko and Aqua

>>24811426
>jav
>Aqua
That is some low iq rrat

>>24811421
She actually not that bad at singing, but she really fucking hate her singing for obvious reason

>>24811426
Yeah Watame too right?

>>24810214
this even being a rat is further prove that more and more subhumans are joining the in for the shizo posting

>>24811482
He's talking about this. I jack off to it regularly but it's obviously not her. If you close your ears though...
https://files.catbox.moe/6tpmal.mp4

>>24811493
She can't sing while faking her voice

>>24811482
Probably talking about that low quality rrat that was even laughed at by 5ch fags and got disproven on the very same day.

>>24811227
I dread local baiting even more than kids and coomer baiting. Unlike other 2, shit is actually harmful.

>>24811271
maybe start a discussion? no one here watches her so idk what you want to "discuss" unless you're trying to shill her or smth

>>24811147
They should all be begging Watame and mayo dog for advice.

>>24811584
All JAV squeaks sound the same

>>24811620
Idk I just figured some schizo would latch onto her by now since she technically has more subs than Gura.

>>24810214
> literally got fucked on camera
vs
> boob ASMR
are you for real

>>24811147
She should stream longer but speak lower and calmer like Watame

>>24811653
Most of the big stat tracking sites put her under "convert".
And chumbuds have been getting shitposted about their oshi for one and a half years, there's nothing that really sticks.

most holofag already content with something pathetic like this >>24806790

>>24811653
Did you..miss that shit happening for about a week? Then they realized the cumbuds were in fact, not seething about a convert and this was nowhere near their first rhodeo with that shit (Wolfychu lmao).
Worse than just that, Cookie actually is a fucking kids channel, its very hard for her to draw real fans from the /vt/ sisters demographic, even for the purposes of ironically shitting on Gura.

>>24811760
Get the fuck outta here

>>24811271
It's only a vtuber by technical definition. "Code Miko" is also technically a vtuber but does anyone want to talk about her? So are Chinese bilibili vtubers, it's just that stuff is way outside the interest of anyone here.

>>24811760
You could've just said you have shit taste and left it at that.

>>24811426
dont remember since its been a long time since i saw that rrat but if i remember correctly its a variant of the hitomi story with sora modeling in one of those magazines in exchange for money for her equipment

>>24811616
how though? local baiting is harmless

>>24811949
sora's roommate is an seiyuu for hire like Kizuna Ai before they renew the contract, silly how holobronies doesn't know their goddess

>>24811659
Thats what i said
Belle Delphine is nowhere near the level of Noel when it comes to erotic stuff

>>24812054
Most neo-Holofags don't even care about Sora.

>>24807711
I wonder how much of that is Sony trying to buy their way into vtubing. You like the taste of that dick?

>>24811836
LSF/ twitchfag and normie like to talk about her but she's as far from a vtuber as she can get. She 's boring as hell and her main appeal surprisingly similar to those douchetuber whose content is about flexing their car and money.

>>24811637
I really don't understand how they can stream for so many hours talking nonstop without damaging their vocal cords
Guess they're just built different