/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24787975
It might make them a little more explicit when they do sponsored content, but I doubt it would have much of any effect.

That's theoretically pretty interesting. Holo and Niji seem pretty thorough about disclosing when they're being sponsored to do something. I wonder if there was some impetus for this. It seems odd they would revise it all of a sudden to have vtubers be specifically mentioned.

>>24788143
I think they wanted to avoid the possibility of people using vtubers to skirt the currently existing regulations, e.g. "This sponsored stream doesn't fall under FTC influencer guidelines because Gawr Gura is an animated character, not an influencer". I haven't seen it happen, but presumably the FTC doesn't even want to let people try.

>>24788294
Probably this. People will try and find a way around anything if you give them enough room.

>>24788294
if I recall someone already tried it in japanese court trying to argue that vtubers are fictiona characters so you can't slander them the same way you can't slander harry potter so it does have precident

>vtubers so mainstream that the FTC has to clarify them in their rules so they can't be used in a loophole.
Don't think it really changes much since I'm pretty sure they are very clear when they are being sponsored. Just funny to see they're getting recognized that they admit that vtubers do have some influence.

>>24787975
>>24788143
likely nothing will really change since the corpos were already running under the assumption that the rules applied to them.
in the end this is likely just tying up a possible loopholes before they get abused as good faith is only good until someone breaks the trust.

>>24787975
Bruh

>>24787975
Hooray for Censorship.

>>24793104
anon... your english comprehension reps....

>>24787975
What happened? Did Vshojo start shilling virtual casinos to kids or something? They already shilled that one CIA front (according to wikipedia), wouldn't be surprised.
Can't be hololive or nijisanji because they always explicitly state they're sponsored because of Jap laws being strict about it.

>>24793987
Shut the fuck up.

>>24787975
>YouTube
and whatabout Twitch, the views boosting paradise?

>what you think it means
Government will protecc u from scammers
>what it actually means
Things which offend the established elites will be banned more easily to maintain the illusion that you have freedom and people actually like the senile 80 year olds who have been running society for 40 years.

>>24794070
Wasn't vsj. I'd guess indie or simply preventative measures.

The fact that they even needed to revise the guidelines to include vtubers means their guidelines are shoddily written, and they should off themselves and start over.
FTC are scum anyway, they will happily take bribes to look the other way.
See Microsoft IE bundling.

>>24787975
That might have something to do with the casino fleshtubers instead of vtubers if anything also might have something to do with some small time influencers getting their vids and faces edited in those chink copycat mobile game ads

>>24794070
Yeah they'll bring it up on the upcomming moona collab

>>24787975
Hololive at least has disclaimers in their video descriptions when the content is sponsored. I'd say that's proper disclosure

>>24788294
>>24788447
This
Roa recently won(not just tried, but won) her case and the Vtubers are now specifically referenced to in Japanese law as an exception to the normal lack of correlation between a character and their actor/VA
Basically, Japanese courts have ruled that a Vtuber IS the roommate no matter what, and that slander, libel, and general "anti" activity against a Vtuber, even if the antis do not reference the roommate, or hell even KNOW about the roommate, constitutes as conducting that activity towards the roommate.

While not necessarily correlated, it's VERY likely that that court case altering Japanese law influenced this clarification as Vtubers and their unique nature gain more traction.

We are effectively seeing "The Vtuber character is not the roommate" being deconstructed at a government level in real time.

>>24801683
To add onto this, depending on how robust these rules are and how they fare in the real world, the nature of GFE in particular may come to the forefront of this discussion and Vtubers who explicitly promise to be the chats girlfriend or wife or whatever while being unfaithful may be forced to either retract such statements from any monetized benefits or face action in court for promising to be chats girlfriend while having a boyfriend privately.

>>24801858
This is satire, right?

>>24787975
shame

Holos say it's sponsored first thing in the description and aloud at the beginning of the video. Will they slap a [Sponsored] in the title now? Don't care.

>>24811936
The description usually even will have SPONSORED STREAM BY X

>>24804184
No, this is how the law works if you want to cover every base properly to keep people from cheating the system.
If someone offers you a service and then cheats you, you deserve compensation for it.

>>24794070
>They already shilled that one CIA front
Wait, what?

>>24787975
guidelines are just "things people supposed to do", not laws really. Jap have gacha guideline but drop rate is all over the place

>>24813188
They did a fundraiser for a "charity" that was raising money for Ukraine. Wikipedia says said charity is a CIA front citing multiple sources.

>>24814776
>someone remembers the rrat I spread
I made it bros
I am now in the top percent of /vt/ users
he was the ex head of a cia branch though so it was quite sussy

>law states that the roommate is the vtuber now
>gfefags commonly use excuses like “I fell in love with her character I don’t care what she does as long as she doesn’t have a boyfriend irl”
>all gfe viewers are officially cucks according to japanese law
I rabbu glorious nippon

>>24814776
What was the name of the charity exactly? Cuz that'd be funny if true.

>Turns out asking for permission was demanding payment all along

>>24804184
Unironically, no.
There are vtubers who say shit like "I will be your girlfriend" in advertisements for memberships, and often many of them say things like "I will never betray you or get a boyfriend" and often this is related to membership benefits too.
There is no provision in the law for "it's obviously satire". You're not allowed to be satirical in advertising benefits like that without some obvious clarification. GFE chuubas who promise stuff like that without immediately knocking the act down into the ground by clarifying would be held liable for false advertising.

Yes, you can legally enforce GFE.

>>24794131
anon... this isnt china, the elites dont need new laws to fuck you over, they fuck you over in other ways.
>>24801683
while what you bring up is an interesting debate
>We are effectively seeing "The Vtuber character is not the roommate" being deconstructed at a government level in real time.
the persona isnt the actor was never really a thing.
the person acting is still the same person but theyre playing a role, there was never any real disconnect outside of what everyone socially agreed on for the role as a part of kayfabe.
if a wrestler accidently killed another wrestler on stage, there would be an investigation into the real person despite the person playing a character at the time.
same goes for vtubers and always has.

>>24787975
>such as YouTube and Instagram that their tools were not robust enough to ensure proper disclosure of paid content, and could open them up to potential liability.
Everyone knows the front page is paid
You get movie trailers and pop songs on it despite them being 5view

>>24787975
You're not allowed to make reviews, goy. That's ***-ist.