/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>51,105: Miko (Hololive)
>43,410: Levi (Nijisanji)
>26,472: Koyori (Hololive)
>25,273: Towa (Hololive)
>24,973: Korone (Hololive)
>21,201: Botan (Hololive)
>20,440: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,145: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,045: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,468: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>19,380: Mio (Hololive)
>17,172: Nui (Nijisanji)
>16,630: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>15,212: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>14,922: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,543: Vox (Nijisanji)
>13,983: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,931: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,082: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,036: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,949: Watame (Hololive)
>12,355: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,948: Haachama (Hololive)
>11,206: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,155: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,087: Noel (Hololive)
>10,593: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,524: Noah (VSPO)

>>24758563
Yes anon, someone who doesn't stream regularly and posted a stream whenever they feel like it with a few hours of notice is considered a guerilla, even for JP. Polka specifically has apologized, and getting shit on, repeatedly that she's been streaming nothing but unscheduled guerilla (by which frames are usually posted few hours with little notice, just like the stream in question).
Just take the L and accept you're a retarded nigger anon that doesn't even watch streams. We're pretty understanding here to confused newfaggots in the /#/ threads

>>24758764
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>>24758844
What are these "few hours" for you, 30min? Kek.

>>24758649
anything that has less than hour is guerilla
working arounf the rules just to suit your shitty oshi is unacceptable, all rules apply the same to all chuubas

>>24758764
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
100x: Hololive
33x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha
10x: Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata
4x: Marine, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>24758900
seems so

>>24758929
Your personal definition is not "the rules". Especially when you seem to only care because you're personally biased and want to be able to say "it's not a guerilla so there's no possible reason the number could be anything lower than the maximum possible". As if the meaningless label of whether it's a guerilla stream or not would alter the fact that it had only 4 hours to attract the notice of viewers.

>>24758900
Polka's streams are set up 2-3 hours before they go live, I accept your concussions

t. someone who actually watches her

Linking for visability

>>24757389

>>24759036
if it doesn't matter, why are you fags already coping and calling it a guerilla?
you're literally contradicting yourself for the sake of being retarded

>>24759098
I don't like Vox either but you can fuck off with this narc shit.

>>24759120
I don't personally think it's a guerilla and do agree with your 1 hour definition as being reasonably good, but I also think the difference between a stream with a 1 hour notification time and a 4 hour one is fairly marginal. In either case, most of the viewers are gonna show up when they see it pop up live.

>>24759120
Glad you agreed it's a guerilla. I don't give a shit if the EN Collab goes well or not, x% cull copes has always been cringe, but saying an unscheduled stream with little to no notice as not a guerilla is dishonest at best. we don't need more delusional schizo around here.

It's not even labeled an offcollab btw. Genuine question, what makes you say its an offcollab? It probably is, but give me a source.

>>24758929
>rules
>for a definition of guerilla stream
sweet mother of autism why is /hlg/ like this

>make two threads
>both of them have the same dumb arguments
Pick one thread and accept that any stream that gets a frame without prior notification is guerilla because the only people who know it's coming up are the people who randomly decided to check the channel after the frame went up.

>>24759458
The same logic that makes you say "it probably is", so why are you asking for a fucking source? Are you a wikipedia editor?

>>24759458
ASMR collabs needs to be off collab to even work anon. Unless it's not a traditional ASMR collab (like Laplus/Koyori), if so it should've been indicated as so in the title or thumbnail

>>24759538
90% of Pekora's streams have been guerillas so far then,got it. Given that she always tweets an hour or two at most prior to her streams, with her frames always up around 3 to four hours before her tweets. Also she doesn't have a schedule, so it suits your retarded take, right?

>>24759619
That Lap+/Koyo stream was kino, really hope that Shion and Lap+ follow through on that ASRM as well.

>>24759385
yes, an unscheduled stream is not a guerilla stream, it's a level below that
>>24759510
kill yourself

>>24759538
If you're subscribed or use holodex/towatools, you can see it without checking the channel though

>>24759756
>an unscheduled stream is not a guerilla stream
what?

>>24759170
NTA but is a single word.of what he said not accurate?

>>24759729
You don't even watch Pekora anon.
She always informs/discuss with her viewers what she would be streaming the next day (sometimes also the next next day) on her C part. most of the daily streamers like Miko/Watame does this

>>24759878
You are replying to a schizo from /jp/

>>24759970
I swear even /jp/ doesn't have a schizo as retarded as this one. This guy must be really really new.

>>24756920
AC merch.

EN: Only Kiara and Sana NOT sold out.
ID: Only Moona and Iofi NOT sold out (no ID3).
JP0: Miko, Suisei and Roboco sold out (can't see Sora or Azki)
JP1: Only Haachama sold out.
JP2: Only Choco and Ayame NOT sold out.
Gamers: Only Mio sold out (the fuck?)
JP3: Sold out.
JP4: Only Coco sold out.
JP5: Sold out (!)
No JP6.

>>24760243
>Risu sold out but not Moona
GO RISU MY BEAUTIFUL QUEEN!!!

>>24760243
If Roboco is sold out they simply have different stock numbers for each Holo.

>>24760243
I can't imagine Anya selling out of anything unless they deliberately produced fewer units of her

>>24760243
They're still selling Rushia merch?

>>24761064
They own Uruha Rushia, obviously they wouldn't give up such an opportunity to gather the money from the few fancucks left in the fanbase.

>>24760243
That doesn't look official. Are you posting artist alley merch?

>>24762475
yes

>>24760243
>>24763000
If it's artist alley merch who gives a shit?

>>24760243
Oh I missed Towa and Korone, they sold out too.

post favorite numbers.
I'll start: 798300
Mess with the sheep, get bleep

>>24764308
Is it unofficial merch or not?

>>24760243
I'd buy all of Mio mama merch myself if I could.

>>24760243
Bootleg looking, get the fuck out.

>5k for a superchat reading stream
Sasuga Fauna waiting room

>>24766198
there isnt much else

>>24760243
Looks like unofficial merch. fans have less incentive to buy.

exact time needed pls
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only)
1 REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
2 Marine Set Sail (Houshou Marine) - 0d 16h 22m
3 Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
4 Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
5 Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
6 Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
7 Reflect MV (Gawr Gura) - 2d 12h 24m
8 Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
9 Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
10 End of a life (Calliope Mori) - 3d 9h 50m

11 Capsule (Calliope Mori) - 4d 13h 51m
12 RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
>15 Mera Mera (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h
13 Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
14 Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52m
15 Doggy God street (Inugami Korone) - 6d 3h 55m
16 Template(Hoshimachi Suisei) - 6d 10h 7m
17 Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
18 Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
19 Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
20 The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m

21 UnAlive (Mori Calliope) - 10d 0h 22m
22 Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
23 Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
24 DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) 12d 5h 20m
25 A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
26 Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m
27 Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) - 13d 6h 0m
28 Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
29 Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
30 Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m

31 Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m
32 Live Again (Mori Calliope) 14d 18h 10m
33 Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m
34 Journey of a thousand years (HoloMyth) - 19d 17h 46m
35 Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
36 Play dice (Hakos Baelz) - 20d 8h 7m
37 RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
38 HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m
39 SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
40 My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m

41 Mantra Hujan (Kobo Kanaeru) - 27d 0h 11m
42 Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
43 Curry Meishi Miracle (Pekora Subaru Aqua) 29d 23h 9m
44 Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30d 2h 43m
45 High Tide (Moona Hoshinova) - 30d 2h 55m
46 Saikyou Tensai Korone (Inugami Korone) - 32d 22h 39m
47 OniKemonoDance (AyafubuMi)- 33d 22h 48m
48 Bye bye Rainy (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 34d 23h 51m

The most recent list of highest peak on record for all of the Hololive Production (Hololive EN + JP + ID and Holostars) members, sorted by
>peak
>date
>type

Why is this thread so quiet?

Hours streamed
Council vs JP4
Council vs JP5
Council vs Myth

Is this an offcollab?

>>24769165
>>24758676

>>24758764
HoloEN doko?

I wonder, when Miko won gold for the day, Holofans don't exactly spam this thread with "Niji reclining!!!", but as soon as Niji wins something, Nijifans start shouting.

Suisei's new cover got into JP trending

>>24769784
August

>>24770143
Doesn't matter, Gura is better.

>>24769784
Soon, hopefully

Where are the other NijiEN members
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/w3y9w8j2l

Raid when?

This collab is honestly quite fun to listen to

>>24772395
It is despite the numbers

>>24759040
>her last couple of streams had an hour or less between announcement and stream start
>she generally doesn't even tweet her streams until they're an hour away unless it's a collab
Why do you have to lie like this?

>>24772488
To be honest, HoloEN numbers right here are on par with other top streamers around the world. Plus, HoloEN can get over 1000 people to get up their ass and go to a physical convention.
That's more impressive actually.

How does this off-collab compare to the NijiEN ones?

>>24772907
NijiEN males off-collabs are the PEAK EN collab material

>>24772973
becasue who the fucking hell knows where they are

>>24769784
pray for 5 Koyoris

>HoloEN offcollab
>sub 30k

>>24773118
They are in a hotel like last time?

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1528524440316874752
Asking again
Is 43k in 3 hours good?

So, we agree this is the stupidest graph in a while right? The line of death really shining today

>>24773000
NijiEN is built on friendship and unity, HoloEN is built on conveniences. Friendship will prevail.

>>24772940
Good to know then, I'll pray for his well-being this week before going to sleep.

>>24773168
Yes thats why Reimu is trying to leech.

>>24773173
nah

>recycling this thread
anyways, a complete failure

>>24764754
1/137

>>24772875
>On par with top streamers around the world
>Regularly mogged by the supposed 2nd place Vtuber company Nijisanji side branch NijiEN
Holokeks see the world through rose tinted eyes

>>24773232
Why would Reimu associate with a low tier vtuber like Gura? She can just ask Vox and Mysta.

>>24773135
I mean I love the girls but ASMR shit really creeps me out. I would rather watch them all play Blockgame than pseudo-JOI

Why can't they just do it at fauna house like most of jp and id collab?? Well at least council learn something today that off collab is not easy. Ame is a genius.

i just wanted them in my ears

>>24773379
B-but that was a guerilla stream and it was also scuffed like no tomorrow! C-cope nijinigger!

>>24773118
The JPs can just hop on a train and get to someone's house in an hour, and then go back when finished. No need to deal with sleeping arrangements or other logistics.

>>24744420
passes sasaki's sub count in half a year, but can't even beat her in ccv when doing one of his asmr erp streams
they need to start botting all his streams because it looks off compared to the constant botted sub growth

>>24758663
Actual previous
>>24758676

>>24773434
I don't see anything JOI from this collab

>>24773173
This is earily reminiscent of Ina’s bday. The complete stoppage and refusal to go up and the stream ends up stuck. Remember how ccv would go up -after- people leave?

Directed towards no one in particular: why are you even here if numbers hurt your feelings?

>24773354
didn't i tell (you) she's secretly a chumbud 100% HERfag to boot
picrel from the original reflect comment section

>>24772875
Hold up there bud. I know you are trying to say HoloEN is big and all, they are, but they are not THAT big

>>24773434
there's a pretty big difference between member/fantia and regular youtube asmr when it comes to holos at least

>>24758663
reminder >>24769462

>>24773379
Ignoring the usual shit posts, is it possible that NijiEN's audience just cares more about off collabs? What sort of buff do JP holos get from them?

>>24773841
Holy shit it isn't a meme.

>>24773379
Wouldn't it be more apt to compare it to this stream?

>>24773891
Anon, Ludwig and Valkyrie regularly get around 20k range on YT.
And can small-time streamers get 1000 people to join their Q&A at a convention? It's not like they're doing a karaoke in front of 30 people.

hey holobros, I hope the 3 days of no streams was worth it, they confirmed another one is coming, so look forward to that too!

>reminding the chat to LIKE the stream actually increased the likes from like 20~ per 15 seconds to around 75-90 per 15 seconds for a minute

>>24767756
Coco showing the Memeshart who runs this shit will never fail to amuse me.
Get fucked Chumpedos

>>24774009
becasue it was the first time Luca was visiting and also the first time they had one jp and one id togheter
it was a 7 person offcollab.

>>24771029
Second class.

>>24774075
i'll never understand liking something you'll never watch again

uhh wait are they really just ending it now despite not actually doing anything all stream?

>>24773379
oh no no no nijikeks...

>>24774075
Anon...
There's a reason "LIKE COMMENT SUBSCRIBE" is STILL used to this day, despite how meme'd that shit is. Because it works.
Oh also "Smash that bell!".

>>24773476
Fauna sound like she about to cry, poor girl.

>>24774206
I think it was 120k in the bath with noel, marine and kanata

>>24774061
Huh it's true
Then why does it feel like Hololive as a whole still feel small as fuck in the grand scheme of thing?

>>24774161
Because it's what YT likes and is part of whether or not it will recommend the content to other people.

so what does nijiEN have to shame holoEN today for this embarrassing display?

I'm surprised that even mid-tier HoloEN like this Council trio still manages to get this much seething out of some people in #.

>>24774161
>"I liked this stream"
It's simple as that

>>24774402
Because of your numberrot.

>>24772488
Numbers would be better if they didn't delay it like 3 times, youtube doesn't like it if I remember right and outside of that a lot of people would always bail out even after one bigger delay.

Save your energy for tonight Miko WWE

>>24774402
Hololive as a whole is mainstream anon, there is no small when it comes to the brand power.
Why do you think Nijisanji, with its money and man-power, is still behind Hololive?

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>>24774668
i mean the scuff is the main issue
no avatrs, no asmr, no plan, shit audio levels, trying to get anything going and resulted on 3 delays
it was a bad attempt.

>>24774713
Miko still can't beat Vox x Mysta though

its over holobros...

>>24774402
Literally every streamer in Hololive and Nijisanji, down to the smallest runt, is in the top 1% of streaming.

>>24774402
They're -relatively small-, but in streaming as a whole they're pretty big. In terms of total streamed hours, I believe Hololive is actually top 5 as an org, pretty much had the same hours-streamed as....TSM? yea.

>>24774844
>top 1%
Try top 0.01%.

>>24774713
I certainly won't waste mine for lewdposting that whore later today.

>holoEN declining hard
Kek eat shit cowboys

Well the ASMR has some Kromei moments and some coombait. Can it reach the one million VOD then?

>>24774724
niji males will always be ahead of holo, and holo females will always be ahead of niji. that's just how they recruit and do business

5.5k people watching Ame take a fucking autism test

>>24774936
LOL

>>24774713
I certainly won't waste mine for lewdposting that whore later today.
>H4T0N
Hmmmmm

>>24774936
this is too scuffed will be lucky to get 150k to 200k

>>24774967
most of them are below

>>24770143
>https://twitter.com/YOASOBI_staff/status/1528558484903821312
Blue woman trending higher with 20k less views, explain this numberbros

>>24774936
>Implying kronmei is as big as amesame

>>24774967
Nijimales are behind Hololive though anon, what are you smoking?

>>24774061
I know a spaniard Twitch anime streamer that has 1-1,5k CCV (60% from LATAM confirmed by him) and he gets around 1k people to see him doing Q&A at local anime conventions in random cities in Spain with a population lower than 500k

>>24774713
>bullying roboco instead of this
what a bitch

>>24775028

>>24775094
>amesame
>2022

>24775028
Yo retard you already posted that

>>24775073
>not even finishing Suzy's cover
STAFF HATE

>>24775044
The Vod will still pass Vox or Mysta Vods though

>>24774828
>Based
Based

>>24774967
Stop smoking too much Vox dick

>>24775099
Comparing something mainstream like streaming with vtuber. Are you seriously dumb?

>>24774967
Now, if you zoom out of EN market and look at the whole picture, you'll see that HoloJP are miles ahead of any niji, male or female.

nijis getting uppity like this is always funny. They always get mogged later on and start crying again

>>24774827
Hahaha delusional

Even if HoloEN fails, Yagoo will never abandon them with his "saving everyone" mentality. This pisses me off too much.

>>24775440
Haha ENStars later this year

>>24775440
Don't you remember the Holostars image? Or the Sakura Miko project?

>>24775367
guess i wasn't clear, but i meant niji males do better than holo males, and holo females do better than niji females

so... niijen en gold?

>>24775125
Still the biggest ship after takamori

>>24775285
I Didn't know that having an average of 600 concurrent viewers from your country is "mainstream"

Okay that was awful. I'm going to go make an anti thread in the catalog, can one of the Nijifriends here summarize the main points for me so I get everything down?

>>24775073
Blue woman's views got culled but has higher engagements?

I'm working on a website for vtuber numbers. What features that are not in >>24758709 would you like to see?

>>24775440
I'm still waiting for Sana's comeback that you fags promised me.

>>24775656
Number of listeners masturbating to Vox's ASMR

>>24775656
A fucking place where we can bet fake cash into horse betting

>>24775656
Average view duration on stream or something like that but I guess it isn't possible

>Ame almost at 6k
Yknow for how little she does zatsu content Ame isn't too bad at it

>>24775496
But HoloEN is just seriously wasting money without gaining anything back in return. At least, NijiEN continuously attracts money from SCs, memberships, sponsors, and merch.

>>24775440
what does fail even mean? losing money? doubt that will happen anytime this decade

>>24775656
superchats and daily CCV counted

>>24775768
ZERO overlap and soaking up viewers from a large stream that just ended

>>24775774
???
Their most recent financial report has shown them being in the red anon-chama.

>>24775766
>A fucking place where we can bet fake cash into horse betting
that would be entertaining for sure

>>24775766
I agree on this notion, instead of shitposting, people would just show off winnings earnt

>>24775117
She's Cover's favorite child
She can do anything and get away with it

>>24775656
I cannot emphasize enough how important >>24775719 is. It will give your new website it's killer edge

Prediction for Miko's WWE numbers tonight?

>>24775866
source, links?

>>24775909
65k

>>24775656
what vnuma had + superchats

>24775866
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>24775774
Fail is something like HoloCN.
What a waste of money and energy.
Glad that Cover already exit that trash dump.

>>24775866
Sauce?

>24775866
bro Yagoo literally has enough money to keep the company going for 10+ years even if they do not bring profit. the fuck are you talking about

>>24775866

>>24775440
Yagoo didn't abandon Hololive for 2-3 years before 2020, at the time where they're 4th place behind every company so why would he start now even after he already earned a lot of cash? Other than HoloCN, he doesn't fire members or merge branches that didn't make money like anycolor with nijiIN, KR or ID

>>24775560
now the zhangs use cull proof bots it will be nijiEN gold for the rest of year

How much are we predicting

>>24775656
Even though it won't be perfect, please add a 'Fanart counter'

>>24774902
Anon, there aren't any big streaming orgs that operate like Hololive does. Most orgs are somewhat separate to their creators. Look at Shibuya Hal and TSM for example, I wouldn't consider Shibuya Hal's content to be TSM content.
I think the closest comparison in the 3d streaming industry is Offline TV, but even that is more loose than Hololive. And if you look at content-focused orgs that actually stream, and looking at a broad range of metrics (views, watch time, subscribers, even CCV), from what I can tell Hololive is actually #1.
I'm happy to be proven wrong if you can come up with comparable orgs where:
1) Content is generally associated with the org as a whole and
2) Content is focused on streaming

>>24776032
NijiIN is probably the much better example of fail branch

>>24774936
they single-handedly killed the hype of any future off-collab, specially ASMR
also, this probably was the first time some poeple watched ASMR content and I doubt they will look forward for more
they are sinking more and more

>>24775808
All that doesn't really mean much if you can't keep them around. IRyS had zero overlap for 5 hours yesterday and still got less viewers.

I'm kinda glad Cover left a shithole of a country like China. Had they persisted and one of the CN members gets attacked due to getting doxxed by their government, then they'll need to address that, losing trust from fans.

>>24775967
Yep my prediction too. Because if she's streaming after RBC's live, the others will also stream at the same time too (just like after every live/3D streams), so too many overlap

>>24776157
130k, anything less is a disappointment

>>24776090
NijiKR and NijiID are still there anon, just not with the branding. NijiIN is still working behind the scene in some capacity.
Riku knows the importance of putting talents where they need to be.
Yagoo, on the other hand, is too idealistic and that's what's going to cost him in the future.

>>24776157
150k if she can make use of WWE buff

Amelia was talking about some announcement thats "not a youtube premiere" as the only hint.

>>24776220
19k still watched through the stream with great retention. You're just retarded.

jwu did holo win the month alrd or the race still going?

>>24776259
I thank them for that, or else Luxiem would not have gotten big and mogged Hololive every single day.

>>24776405
Holo win already
You can thank Miko for that

>>24776288
>NijiID NijiIN
>Riku knows the importance of putting talents where they need to be
yeah in the trash or 2view hell lmao

>>24776288
As seen from the Stars meetup, Stars has a sizeable fanbase in Japan. Yagoo knows where to put his eggs in, even better than Riku. HoloAlt and HoloError experiences much better success than what Riku cooks up. Hololive meet also gathered a lot of people to conventions.

>>24776288
>This is how NijiIN's failure is actually a success
>And how HoloEN's success is actually a failure
It feels like gaslights

>>24775656
Game category, would love to numberfagging games

>>24776366
Mumei and Kronii can get solo 20k, an off collab at less than 20k is a failure
I doubt people will watch the VOD after hearing the first minutes, so don't cope with that either
also, they could've gotten more views streaming normally, it was not worth their effort at all and they will see it
>yeah, people are not that interested in offcollabs anymore and they are a problem to organize, let's not do that

>>24776431
15-7 this month, with big players taking a break against an off-collab. Luxiem who?

>>24773476
>Why can't they just do it at fauna house like most of jp and id collab?

why do you think?

M'Lord and Rey "homosexual" Mysterio status?

>>24776157
the hood looks like Suichans.

>>24776546
>yeah, people are not that interested in offcollabs anymore and they are a problem to organize, let's not do that
Anon, the girls knew their collab was scuffed, that's why it got low number, not because people are bored

>>24776546
sounds like something kronii would say

>>24776505
Even a small-time streamer in Spain can 1000 people to a convention as one anon said.
What Hololive gets is minuscule.

phew that was a BLAST
totally worth it the 3 days without streams rioght holobro????
anyways, the rest of the week looks great too!
hopefully Mumei and Fauna don't take another 2 days to get back home right? and mori, she's already in japan back at streaming right? what about sana!
can't wait!

i think the delay and refusal to give out information about the collab nerfed their numbers

>>24775719
>>24775902
You can just check twitter for that

>>24775766
This is something I've been thinking for months but I'm afraid it's too immoral and I'll get in trouble. There must be a way to make it actually entertaining without pressuring the talents to do clickbait streams. I'll definitely keep this in mind when I start working on it.

>>24775769
If you mean how much time each viewer stayed on the stream, it's not possible. This kind of data is internal.

>>24775780
>>24775970
Superchat right, got it.

>>24776163
Fanart are spread in too many websites. There's twitter, pixiv, booru...etc Maybe I can only use twitter and pixiv but it's going to be a very late feature. Keeping this in mind but don't get your hopes up.

>>24776531
Explain further, do you mean which game bring the most viewers?

>>24776698
i tuned in for the autism test, tuned out on the actual SC reading after

Holy fuck that 800 viewer jump on Ames stream when she came back and made noise, the tab in tab out is still very real

Millie raided Reimu, btw.

>>24776698
Mogging Ame, I guess she doesn't envy being in Hololive anymore since being in ID might limit her range more.

>>24776758
called it before it happened >>24769176

>>24774510
the shame will be removed by the Hologold today.

>>24776810
they're twitch streamers stuck on youtube after all

>>24776546
>yeah, people are not that interested in offcollabs anymore and they are a problem to organize, let's not do that
Somehow I don't like some people's fetish for maximizing numbers in exchange of varieties

>>24776827
those are legit copes, what's the issue?

>>24774827
literally demolished their highest numbers, even debuts, with WWE.

>>24776781
>I'm afraid it's too immoral and I'll get in trouble
>immoral
It's fake cash anon. People here had been trying to ask nasfaq devs to make it for months.
>pressuring talents
Talents wouldn't give a fuck. NijiEN would, but if they did, then they're retards.

>>24776757
What site is this? I searched for it earlier but it's not linked on anyone's pages. Is it a fanmade thing? Do they have all the streams?

>>24776757
Can't wait for Luxiem sololive for NijiEN panel at Anime Expo.

>>24776902
>yeah, people are not that interested in offcollabs anymore
*that don't involve men
FTFY

>>24774510
the bots can now do clean graph now they can get gold with whatever they want

>>24776157
Wait, hold up. There's a 3D Niji debut on the same date no?

>>24776748
proof next thread, huh

reminder

>>24777003
why does migo hate niji3ds so much...

>>24776946
https://teamup.com/ksua2ar4zft49pdn7c
Fan schedule

>>24777057
it will never be used anyways
jp management will restrict them as always

>>24777003
no, it's on friday
it's kanata's sister, it's probably not gonna get gold because she's usually a sub 1k shitter

>>24777057
they were literally all joining so it was justifiable

>>24777101
I hope Miko streams WWE again at the same time with the debut

>>24775656
VOD views 1/2/7/30 days after a stream finishes. This is one stat that no site is tracking right now

>>24777101
Awww, afraid that debut might mog your precious Miko?

Look at this raid

>>24775772
anon only a few HoloEN got over 1k people to a convention in Illinois. They're attracting more money than you realize, and you are seriously underestimating the amount of money they make for cover by just looking at CCV. Don't be retarded.

did millie raid reimu?
also that's a real fast recovery on ame tab-in

I don't want to doompost HoloEN but this was embarrassing. I'm never shitting on the Noctyx boys again.

>>24777190
damn they peacing out quick

>>24777090
Thanks

>>24775656
Small EN corpos vtubers.
It might cause some drama though.

>>24777203
>did millie raid reimu?
yup

>>24777203
>did millie raid reimu?
yes

>>24777186
Lmao Miko could stream WWE and mog your debut instead, again

this ame superchat reading is getting better numbers than some of her Doom streams im pretty sure... jesas

>>24775866
Source DOKO???

>>24777190
horrible retention
do people hate reimu so much?

>>24775768
and only 1.8k of those are listening to the 'radio'... what the hell are the other 4k doing?

>>24777190
>>24777203
Reimu...how do we save her? Do raids usually dip that quickly or is it actually just because it's Reimu?

Is Miko really Hololive only source of number this month?

>>24777331
im listening to my own music

>>24776781
>Fanart are spread in too many websites. There's twitter, pixiv, booru...etc Maybe I can only use twitter and pixiv but it's going to be a very late feature. Keeping this in mind but don't get your hopes up.
Totally understandable. Just add a waring "Not 100% accurate" if you ever do get to it

nijiEN 3 days of streams
>44 streams
day still has ~12 hours left

>>24777319
terrible streamer+asians are racist towards latinos

>>24777203
tab-ins are people who are probably already verified, or youtube changed how they count people on tab-ins due to the raid changes (tab ins didn't used to be quite this fast in verifying from what I recall).
Also, this is NORMAL for raiding on Twitch. DESU what happened with Bae is highly unusual, but it was a highly unusual raid where all the participants of the raiding stream joined the raided stream.

>>24775656
chat tracking across the entire vtuber sphere
like how many total unique names for each box and crossover comparison between channels/box
i kinda started on this during ccvid but kinda lost motivation as it was killing my ageing home server

>>24776157
over 100k is the only surety, could be up to 150k. Migo has inclined bigly

>>24777203
What happened to ame's stream?

>>24777359
holoEN 3 days of streams
>7 streams
>2 premeres

>>24777499
she left to do something so people tabbed out, then she got back they tabbed back in.

>>24777348
that's pretty normal behaviour twitch. she's got no retention.

I don't think it was posted, but from yesterday

>>24776810
Yeah this graph looks more similar with twitch raids vs the ones that holoEN did where the raider also moved to the raided channel
https://vrabi.net/video/8wQ_FHk8u3I

>>24777469
Not sure honestly
She is getting normal numbers doing anything else. It's only her WWE that getting ultra big tourist number
But alas I do not have enough examples to come to the conclusion

>>24777359
nijiCN*

>>24777203
Wow, Millie's fans did not appreciate that, did they?

>>24776405
Niji is already dead, they just have to say 'nani?' tonight.

>>24777359
wrong pic on the first one, here's the 3 days together, same stuff
>nijiEN 3 days of streams
>44 streams
day still has ~12 hours left

>>24777526
very interesting

>>24777348
That's raids for you.

>>24777559
Her birthday stream got 125k, really good numbers.

>>24777348
Literally both.

>>24775560
What do they have? Reimu is the only one with a waiting room up, and she she as fuck isn't getting gold

>>24775656
audience demographic

>>24777526
Reimu...

>>24777525
Did Melissa raid Enna?

>>24776405
>race

>>24777692
Other way around

Ayamy is now at 350 something viewers. Didn't she used to get half that? Her ASMR really must have taken off

>>24777581
i thought millie and reimu are in the same clique. did they not like her anymore after she spam vox colalb stream + cn bait?

>>24777692
The other way around, and Millie also raided Seffyna

>>24777635
That's normal number for her
I mean she have always been right behind Pekora so that number does not surprise me

>>24777354
Subaru too, both are the only obvious sources but others can come out with gimmick content to snag gold on slower days.

>>24777763
They're in the same wave not the same clique. Reimu...doesn't really have a clique. She tries to hang around Vox mostly but I think if he raided her the retention would be even more grim and embarrassing.

>>24777043
I'm the one who said that and I wasn't shitposting or anything, just bringing it up (didn't post anything else since then I don't know if somebody tried to bait claiming to be me)
>https://twitter.com/iLuSioNzX/status/1507693471259402241
This is from Expotaku convention in Almeria, 200k population
>https://twitter.com/iLuSioNzX/status/1447237305933123584/photo/1
"Manga Saloon" in Alicante, 330k population
>https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx41wOKIZKY/
Expotaku A Coruña, 250k population

This is his Twitch channel: https://twitchtracker.com/ilutvlive/streams
And I don't have any data, but more than half of his viewers are from LATAM

and to farm (You)'s on /hlgg/ when you feel like it

>>24777743
>>24777797
I need to sleep...

>>24777184
There's a reason no site is tracking that. It takes too many request to the Youtube API. Maybe with some optimization it might be possible. I'll keep this in mind.

>>24777687
Only thing I can show is the demographic of my users. The audience demographic is not a public data. https://developers.google.com/youtube/analytics/channel_reports

What Nijifags doesn't want to tell you is that most of the talents are secretly Holofags, and they hate Holotalents because of that.

>>24776178
It's a failed branch but I wonder how much of a financial blow it actually was considering there were only 3 of them (one of which is still involved with NijiEN I think) and India's probably easier to deal with than China

>>24777842
Kind of a bummer than even Subaru decided to take it easier now

>>24777867
>Irys is 66% of the yesterday streams
Go Irys Go!

>>24777862
There's not a thousand people there you dumb fuck

>>24777917
They didn't invest much in it so they're out the models, however long the handful of staff/streamers worked in salary, some legal and promotional stuff, minus whatever they managed to make in revenue.

>>24776223
And IRyS would have had a lot more if there was a big collab stream before hers.

>>24777842
But Subaru hasn't get any gold this month, yet

>>24777889
Not really secretly and until Luxiem brought in a bunch of women most of us never "hated" holo talents

>>24777867
NijiEN does have almost twice the number of streamers, but this is still kind of embarrassing.

>>24777867
>if HoloEN doubled its members to be on par with NijiEN but with similar work ethic to current HoloEN overnight it would still look dwarfed

>>24777884
Why would that be to many requests? at most that's 4 requests. Once a stream ends you just schedule a job to hit the API after 1/2/7/30 days.

>>24777828
anon Migo's power is pretty new, only since her new model, she didn't used to get such big numbers, and she most definitely didn't used to be right behind Pekora. Even then the power since she got her new model has only grown. There really is no precedent for expectations except for 'this will be over 100k'.
Also let this be a lesson about the power of a good model to revitalize and power up for IrYS

>>24777867
>>24769462
Combine

>>24777526
More people are sticking around than I expected. Raids might help people like Reimu quite a bit

>>24777867
>HoloEN increases members
>Somehow becomes more dry than last year

>>24777862
You aren't making the argument genuine if you compare this to Acen.
>Literally no barriers coof photo session where everyone joins in and it doesn't look anywhere a 1000 in those pictures.

>>24776757
This is why these girls shouldn't fucking do off-collabs until there's an EN3 to compensate for the empty time slots. Knowing the girls though, they'd probably just try to make the off-collab bigger and end up with the same empty time slots.

Is NijiEN's hard work being rewarded? They keep giving back to fans, it's really nice.

>>24777190
Pinoys don't like spaniards and chinese

>>24778016
Why are you so aggresive? I linked the one I found, in the second and third photo are at least 500 people and that's in a 200-300k shithole city. In the "Manga Saloon" in Barcelona there were easily more than 2k (I was there) but I he didn't post any photo

>>24778156
I think basically everyone but Finana is growing

>>24777867
someone post this on vyt subreddit kek, I aint doin it.

>>24778069
totally adding EN3 will solve their problems, it's not that the normie whores they hire hang out with their friends on weekends and take this as a side job, no

Looks like Sony's project VEE has annouced vtubers.
https://youtu.be/L8nHXqLax-o

Looks like some of them are already existing ones as I recognize Kohaku.

>>24778152
The fuck are you trying to say? Did you even remember pre-Council times or are you that retarded?

>>24777867
I'm curious if NijiEN can afford some break without losing their regular viewers to others?

>>24777867
I bet ID streams more than EN

>>24778271
Is this the 50 chuuba project?

>>24777867
Oh I'm going to get some good catalog usage out of this later, thanks.
>>24778246
Someone should do this yeah, we already had people breaching containment to post the Luxiem collab vrabi charts

>>24775560
i think so. mysta just got 600k right? he'll probably do a celebration stream. 19k is nothing

>>24778271
I think the one above Kohaku has been around for a long time too

>>24778271
Looks like Ringo is also an existing vtuber.

>>24778146
I know it isn't the same, but I mean that ofc Hololive would get that much people and even more in an anime convention, idk why so many people are surprised, I'm showing a literal 1k streamer

>>24778315
Yeah

>>24778271
>LAM
Wait what? She already debuted.

>>24778152
Normal off collabs have more than one stream. The girls were literally too fucking retarded/lazy/whatever to even do a karaoke stream despite the 3 of them being together.

>>24778315
Yes

Jesus fucking christ, I missed the off-collab
Why the fuck don't they announce this shit in advance?
Are they like allergic to live audiences?
Is this guerilla shit some retarded recommendation from Ame? Or worse, management?
So much wasted potential goddamnit

goddamn I think Ina's nainai will have pretty long legs, its not only good, its pleasantly repeatable. Going on my reading list music.

>>24778421
>I missed the off-collab
Dont worry, you didn't miss much. Probably the worst off-collab I've seen, just them giggling and making stupid noises for an hour and then quitting. Not even 2 hours. Cannot wait for all these lazy fucks to graduate.

>>24777354
Marine break, Pekora break, Suisei break, Korone incoming break, Nazigumi indefinite break, and probably others I'm forgetting. It's going to be a slow month or two for any day Miko or Subaru isn't streaming, but then again some holos might start to incline from all the absences, mainly Holox, especially Koyori is starting to get some good numbers.

>>24778271
this channel has less subscribers than my shitposting account, what the fuck is wrong with Sony

Reimu's still at a good 2500 viewers after Millie's raid. Usually next to no one stays for raids on Twitch

>>24778097
>Migo's power is pretty new, only since her new model
No, it's clearly after her comeback in 2020. But Miko's always been entertaining, people just didn't see her potential yet at that time

>>24778271
well, at least they didn't dump 50 of them all at once

>bubbabot 2k

daaaaamn

Looks like VerseN is already promoting them
https://twitter.com/verse_n_project/status/1528579698782900224

Is Cover's strategy of hiring outside of vtuber industry harming them in the long run? I feel like Niji's strategy of taking established vtuber is a much safer option.
They are motivated, they're experienced and they likely can do better content than just people without vtubing exp.

>>24778611
The fuck is vampire redhead sxarp doing there?

>>24778632
Who is winning the numbers game anon?

>>24778611
Tik tok Hololive, if these girls follow the idol route, Cover is basically fucked.

>>24778611
no love for PRISM?

>>24778632
bro, 4 of Council did some level of vtubing before Hololive

>>24778611
I counted 13, who's the other 3?

>>24778632
No, they don't even think about your opinion. They just want talents who could do things a streamer couldn't.

>>24778072
On my current website, I did some math and I can run about 400 channels for 80% of the Youtube API quota. I'm sure I can optimize that but it's not that easy.
If I want for example make 1 call every minute (to make the highest viewer count more accurate), it'll take some of the remaining 20%. Every feature I implement will probably eat my quota a bit.
I didn't say it was impossible, it'll just take a bit of optimization before I can do it properly.

Thank you for all your ideas. I've written them down. I'll see you all in a few days/weeks

>>24778581
ame is teasing an announcement and she's implying it's going to be on bubbabot

>>24760243
WTF anya sold out?
UWOOOGHH

>>24778632
Yeah, Niji livers treat streaming like a full time job, which it is, and they're getting rewarded with inclines because of it. Meanwhile lazy Holo livers treat it like a part time job and it shows in the effort and quality of the content.

>>24778289
There has been a few NijiEN breaks of around one week lately and nothing negative has happened, numberwise. So 1-2 week breaks doesnt seem to matter.
Enna will be going on a longer break later this month, right in the middle of her inclining like crazy, so will be interesting to see if she can keep all the new viewers after a month of no streams.
The only other longer NijiEN break was Pomu's surgery last summer, and she got pretty fucked by it and was in the dumpster for a few months

>>24778539
The comeback was another power surge that's true, but the model gave her a further one as her prior model used to be a filter for some, and probably what cemented the growth, on top of her obvious hard work and entertaining personality.
Also one of the more mentally resilient Holo members. Anyone got that migo response to cyber bullying image?

>>24778632
It was a home run for Myth, but I don't think it's a wrong strategy even now.
As the market leader they need to look for ways to expand the audience as a whole, targeting existing vtuber viewers won't expand their box. Look to Kobo for an example of when this strategy succeeds.
The problem is letting in anyone who won't put in a 120% full time effort.

>>24778611
SNOY alliance

>>24778271
Ruki, Tulsi, and Airu have ~50 subs
The other two have like 30k and 60k. That's uh, an interesting dynamic.

>>24778822
other two debuted long ago

>>24778783
This one? I think she basically said the same thing about antis comments in her stream recently. But I forgot which stream/haven't found the clip yet

>>24778791 (me)
Hell, look to Luxiem as an example of when this strategy succeeds.

>>24778724
Sara retweeted them
https://twitter.com/saranagare/status/1528580318025748485
https://twitter.com/saranagare/status/1528581635196628992

>>24778611
Who are the other three?

>>24778709
yeah the 2 view idol route

>>24778884

that's a nice one but i'm thinking of the one where she says she can turn her eyes and walk away.

>>24778898
yeah, Luxiem is really great in that all of them are hard workers, and they set examples of how male vtubers can be successful.

>>24778898
People shit on Riku but they don't know he is the CEO at such a young age for a reason. Mother-fucker chew out older CEOs with his skills alone

>>24778969
successful my ass, chinman alone still mogs all these manwhores

With all this raiding bullshit coming will peak CCV still be seen as the gold standard for numberfagging?
>>24777797
Like if this exact thing happens every single day in a month will Seffyna be seen as a 500 CCV streamer or a 2k CCV streamer?

damn i know kohaku been around for a while but not since 2017. did she covert an old channel?

>amelia sitting around doing fucking nothing but humming to music from her radio who 1/3rd the chats not even using
>steady 5.8k

>>24778769
they try to make it a full time job, then end up having to go back to school or forever keep a second job

>>24778769
>full time job
true, but that's because they don't really have anything to do other than stream, record VPs for merch then stream again. HoloEN has projects, recordings or training that they need to do and they get awarded a salary for attending them. NijiEN doesn't have a salary, they thrive on the percentages from SCs, members or other revenues.

>>24778928
>>24778737

Looks like the 3 new vtubers for the Virtual Cinderella Project.

https://re-how.net/all/1811366/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMNsLaAERF2nSb2jQUgIQw/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/UzuMe/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCruKgBYDTz1WES6sQ0-7L3A/videos

>>24779156
Once again, show proof anon. NijiEN is literally doing the same thing, if not more than HoloEN off scene since they have a bunch of sponsors this month.

Okay, here for day 2 of the 24 hour tracking for Gura and probably the last for now until her next set of streams. I'm slightly late since I was doing something but 30 mins isn't going to make a difference here really. So here's what I got:
>The Closing Shift: 378k (+27k)
>Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion: 367k (+14k)
>Taiko: 358k (+11k)
>Minecraft #2: 333k (+4k)
>Drunken Bar Fight: 301k (+2k)
>Minecraft #1: 466k (+2k)
>Happy's Humble Burger Farm: 466k (+2k)

So essentially, every single VOD there either had the EXACT same increment as last time, or has actually improved upon the last time, notably MC#2 which gained an extra 1k views over the last set. The Closing Shift was the only one to drop, which it went from +30k to +27k. So in short, Gura has no issues with her audience and is doing fantastic in this regard. No need to care about this now until the next set so I'll just be chillin around answering random VOD stuff when asked or when questions pop up

>>24778611
They decided to up the sex appeal, just a little though

number >>24777777

>>24779156
NTA, but Ame said she just lazed around all weekend binge watching Anime. You do got Ina and Mumei, but ironically they are probably some of the more usually consistent streamers even with the outside obligations.

>>24779230
>NijiEN is literally doing the same thing
>goes to an off-collab in UK for two weeks

>>24779156
Wait the fuck. I heard reimu moving into cheaper apartment while nina moving into better house. Is that rrat true?

>>24779211
Oh Mea and Erio new group that pander to chinks

>>24779122
She's baiting with an announcement at the end

>>24779364
it's not a secret stream or anything. whatever is announced will show up on twitter a second later

>>24779317
Cursed.

>>24779364
its not even going to be on her stream by the sounds of it shes just waiting to react to it or something

>>24778520
>Cannot wait for all these lazy fucks to graduate.
Not so long ago, I would've disagreed hard, but now I'm just wondering what the fuck is going on with council (and debuff detective). It's not even that they don't stream enough (some do); it's that it just feels like they're fucking around.
EN seriously needs a tard wrangler. Or better management - it's like their management is only strict on what they can stream and not how they stream.

>>24779267
Thanks for the info VOD anon. So what's her next VOD that could hit 1M this year if I may ask?

>>24778632
If anything is the other way around most of Council comes from streamer background and already being familiar with vtubers meanwhile in Myth you had people from adjacent things like artist Ina, rapper Mori, idol cosplayer Kiara, memester Gura, the most adaptable in theory was Ame because of her bigger streamer experience and Kiara because of idol knowledge.

If anything Cover should look for other talents not that present in Hololive and find a way to properly train them as streamers. Like somebody that was a radio host, an actual DJ, somebody with experience in theatrics, a restaurant chef, etc. Look at how Kobo has barely vtuber knowledge/background and how she is blowing up for the ID scene.

and debuff detective strikes again, -500

>>24778632
>Is Cover's strategy of hiring outside of vtuber industry harming them in the long run?
No.

>>24779054
>Chinman mogs all of Luxiem
Come back when chinman brings in 100k in SC every month

>>24779537
not him but my money is on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTbvDqCYID8

>>24779479
Do you think Yagoo will let that happen? He caters to their whim and try to "save" them. They will coast along because Yagoo is helping them do so.

Ame is being weird about a supposed announcement

>>24779537
https://youtu.be/YTbvDqCYID8
AmeSame + Moona is 1.5k off 1 Million so that’s likely her next one of the current VODs. Her April Fools VOD is still growing also but it’s still a ways away (currently 905k)

But if you want my honesty, her next 1M is likely gonna be her birthday. There’s almost no way it doesn’t get 1M at this point with how much she’s hyping it up and how other bdays have went so far this year

>>24779479
I feel like Council mindset is just different than for example HoloX.
After joining Hololive, they "made it", that was the endgame for them. But for HoloX, that was the beginning and that's why they work hard to reach their goal.
Do council members even have a long term goal?

>>24779616
he's still more influential than those faggots

>>24779351
They aren't lazy and actually did additional work to buffer for their off collab trips. Meanwhile HoloEN takes long break for literally no reason and takes additional break after coming back. Also takes break to do "offstream" Hololive work but we have yet to see these "work" they claim to be so busy doing

>>24778632
Cover is doing the right thing BUT they need to balance their hires out. They're getting way too many people that treat Hololive like a part-time gig and not enough people that are willing to put more hours into the job. It's pathetic that Kiara is the only HoloEN girl that can reliably put in a decent amount of hours per month in the branch.

>>24779798
No anon, these are girls that feel that they did a good job with a scuffed as fuck collab for a single hour. They're just coasting on fame with no real desire to put forth effort into things like preparation and planning like HoloJP does.

>fucking tiktok accounts

>>24779706
>It's TikTok official account
I feel bamboozled

>>24780090
They made their audience wait with delays longer than they were actually streaming. It doesn't get any worse than that from an entertainment perspective.

Really need EN3 to materialize. Content is way too fucking dry.

>>24779798
Mumei and Bae at least have the excuse of school (Bae in particular due to asian parents). Kronii has a shitty family situation that she's trying to move (literally) away from. Fauna is ... mostly fine I think?
Sana is the worst offender here - she has excuses, but it's clear that she treats vtubing as a side hobby and only joined just to try it out rather than any actual ambition.
But more than their individual "contributions", they're just this air of laissez faire that permeates them, which just keeps self-reinforcing without a good tard wrangler (or management) to slap them into shape.