/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Well pick one. I like this OP better I guess?

>>24758533
>hey Calli!
>youre coming to America, right?
>can you pick up my drums and ship it stateside to my address?
>thanks girl!
Sounds really complicated!

Really, I’m doubting it

I like this one, the other one is SEX but this one makes me feel good things

>>24758810
it has been more than 2 years. and didnt get taiko permissions until last week so gura probably forgot the drums ever happened.

>>24758872
They won't celebrate 2 year anniversary until this September...

>>24756920
Holomerch at AC, including JP and ID.

did anyone bother checking if wwe is definitely happening today in the end?

>>24758922
still a year and a half is a long time.

>>24758967
Who the fuck is the green haired girl next to Kanata?

>>24759071
I don't know but she sold out!

JP WWE = RAW
EN WWE = SMACKDOWN

>>24758973
Yes, as far as she did mentioned that on SC reading goes.

>>24758967
>Risu, Ollie sold out
>Watame, Kanata, fucking FUBUKI, Moona not sold out
I call bullshit

>fags actually think goooooorah is miko tier
kek, first stream will be 30k then 20-25k for the rest, maybe less

>>24759134
may as well pencil her in for another gold then in that case, sorry roboco

>>24759185
First one will be 19k, rest will be 15k. If they will actually happen at all, that is.

>>24759185
Nobody sane is expecting Miko's numbers from Gura's WWE.

>>24758967
is that one under marine haachama? why does she look weird...?

>>24758967
>anya
>sold
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>24759166
Initial stock is not necessarily the same

>>24759166
Different stock levels. Do you assume they made the same number of Fubuki and Risu?

>3k waiting room, 1h to go
might be fine i guess.

Assuming Migo does wrestling today and both that and the 3D live win golds, that would give her 7 in May vs. gigabuffed Aqua's 6 in April

>>24759103
More like sold out her "friends"

>>24759393
whatever numebr it gets it would have been 5-10k beigger by actually promoting or advertising it was going to happen. that is my only issue

>>24759393
>Fauna channel
>no Ina or Ame
>ASMR

I don't expect anything amazing. 20k maybe.

>>24759393
>3k waiting room, 1h to go
Any good numberfags that knows what that usually means in end peak CCV?
Seems high

>>24759418
MIko will also win the 28th with her new outfit

>>24759532
10k waiting room for anyone that is not gura is an acivement on EN before strarting the stream.
ina had 12k for ehr birthday before starting.

For that dumbud who told me off for saying that Gura wouldn't necessarily do open call totsu for all members during her Birthday stream, this is a reminder that Gura easily flakes on many things she says she will do, the most recent example being the hand cam stream and her reluctance to do it now.

>>24759542
they're the exact same stream

>>24759393
>nothing but a ? in 3 schedules
>literally no one streaming the whole weekend
>meh, the might be taking a break
>off collab
at least is not at 2 AM like last time

>>24759614
no

>>24759532
This is a 20k on a good day.
Lots of Gura's bigger streams got that high. Might get a boost once they confirm they're actually offcollabing, which btw so far exists as just a "wait is that what's happening?" assumption.

>>24759627
She has 5 currently anon, the post here >>24759418 also added her 3DLive/New outfit which happens on 21JST next saturday

>>24758967
EN: Only Kiara and Sana NOT sold out.
ID: Only Moona and Iofi NOT sold out (no ID3).
JP0: Miko, Suisei and Roboco sold out (can't see Sora or Azki)
JP1: Only Haachama sold out.
JP2: Only Choco and Ayame NOT sold out.
Gamers: Only Mio sold out (the fuck?)
JP3: Sold out.
JP4: Only Coco sold out.
JP5: Sold out (!)
No JP6.

Asamio hits 15k for a second week in a row, Miosha is one of the hardest inclining holos right now

MIO 15K!

>>24759770
>JP1: Only Haachama sold out.
?????????????????????????
how?

>>24759770
Some are really weird or unexpected. I guess they made different amounts for each member based on popularity

>>24759850
EN0

>>24759618
they should totally have 10k waiting right now if they announced it a week ago, right faggot?

Linking for visability

>>24757389

>Aqua dominates April
>Miko dominates May
Too bad Hololive has no one whose name starts with a J.

>>24759850
speaking of haachama
https://youtu.be/eRN-kcZEGAY
>10 am on a Monday
kek

I went to sleep after miko announcement, any news?

>>24759926
Fuck off

>>24759937
Jun's kouhai.

>>24759965
Butthurt fujo doesn't like the truth

>>24759185
No one said that, there aren't even 70k viewers available to watch Gura in her timeslot.

>>24759223
You're also retarded. Fucking Selen got 13k doing the same shit for Nijis. What's a mega buff for one holo is a mega buff for another, even if not the same level. For example Gura got 27k on the first VS, 29k on Elden Ring, 25k on Closing Shift etc.

Unless you for some god forsaken reason thing WWE is one of those things only popular with japs, why would you lowball such a mega buff to below 20k?

>>24759770
>JP1: Only Haachama sold out
Haaton is clearly the most powerful race

>>24760037
I mean, there are, but only for something like an outfit.

>>24759618
>off collab
Source? Can you cite where they stated its an offcollab?

>>24759898
are you fucking retarded? you literally can't imagine the amount of people that WANT to watch something like this but WONT because it's literally unnanounced?

>>24759889
yeah that makes sense now
so from jp1 and jp4 no one sold out
but the entirety of EN0 did? based

>>24760037
I have a fetish for being grudgeposted. Gura will get 15k, screencap it.

>>24760037
Cuz he's dumb or baiting. There's dozens of games or concepts Gura could easily get 20k with on the first stream. It's more of a question if she can get it up over 30k.

>>24760088
>I mean, there are, but only for something like an outfit.
Outfits, for both JPs and ENs, draw from both EOP and JOP pools. There have never been 100k+ pure EOP watchers in NA.

>>24759937
EN3
N
3

>>24760172
EN3 can't come soon enough.

>>24760110
suuuure sure anon
there's a 100k people who would go out of their way to watch this trash kek

>>24760172
>>24760192
>tfw there was a time when everybody were dreading any HoloEN existing

>>24760202
kys

>>24759898
Maybe? Who knows what number it'd be at, but yes announcing things ahead of time brings in more people. Are you actually fucking debating this?
>>24760125
No point in grudgeposting something this retarded, I will neither screencap nor remember it.

>>24759926
Anon, calling for a raid is against the rules of this site.
There are lots of mean people in this very thread that could click the three dots, click “report post”, select “This post is a call for invasion (Raid)” and submit the form and if three or more people do it it could get you into trouble

Thankfully people here aren’t as mean as to do just that

>>24760166
They don't have to be EOPs, it just has to be an audience that can reach 70k, and that exists for Gura.

>>24760244
no? literally no one wanted a EN branch
Everyone was fearing that they would be bitches like Council but myth proved them wrong

>>24760192
>>24760172
Screenshot this, but none of these future whores will be popular in any way.

>>24760281
No everyone feared they would be like Nina and Finana (and Ollie I guess).

>>24760272
I think an easy way to understand EN vs JP numbers is mostly just to halve EN numbers. Miko gets 70k with WWE? Expect 30-35k for Gura.

>>24760252
>Maybe?
>Are you actually fucking debating this?
I should be asking YOU this, the fact that you faggots are pulling astronomical numbers like this because of this so called """"""""""guerilla"""""""""" just to cope with the fact that your ENshitters would never be as good the their JP counterparts is just sad

>>24760330
cope

>>24759926
idiot

>>24759937
Jowa Jokoyami...

>>24760281
>Everyone was fearing that they would be bitches like Council
Fuck does that mean? Council doesn't have any of the doomposting problems people had with the EN concept (no respect for chuba culture, twitch thot behavior, open SJWs). At no point was anyone ever going "aiee I don't want EN they won't stream as much". They were afraid of what'd they'd stream, not how much they'd stream.

>>24760350
>the fact that you faggots are pulling astronomical numbers like this because of this so called """"""""""guerilla"""""""""" just to cope with the fact that your ENshitters would never be as good the their JP counterparts is just sad
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? Who did this? Are you fighting windmills?
Man I'm done replying to you, you've been going for hours and if this is not bait it's sad.

>>24760408
>boyfriends
>lazy fucks
>holoshart collabs
???

man these councilfags are a fucking sad sight for the eyes
at least myth has some legacy to them, what the fuck did council do? I've yet to remember any of them for anything that's worth remembering

>>24760497
The most memorable council moment so far is probably the Ministry stream ?

>>24760350
>you faggots are pulling astronomical numbers like this because of this so called """"""""""guerilla""""""""""
Meds
Literally only you does that itt
It's a guerilla, just an additional context.
May probably get a couple hundreds of viewers if scheduled properly, or a couple thousand, or might not at all, who knows.

>>24760497
they normalized having boyfriends and taking long ass breaks

4000 35 minutes away is this good or not

>>24760264
If salty people report me for trying to protect children than that says a lot more about them than it ever could me. Putting sexual content behind an obviously child friendly cartoon character is dangerous.

>>24760558
It's looking exactly like last Gura's stream

>>24760533
Was that the genderflip one?

>>24760568
fuck off

>>24760341
It's more like, you take that initial 70k, divide it in half to account for 2020 cull and then take away another ~30% on top of that to account for the 2021 cull.

>>24760481
Really reaching huh? Especially when there are multiple JPs who are lazy fucks with boyfriend/holostar collabs (there were like, 3 of those btw, in 2 years).

I was in /hlg/ and these absolutely were not the main doomposting concerns, even the BF shit was more like "they'll have open BFs and they'll shame the audience on stream for caring" lmao

>>24760568
True, it's still against global rules tho, so enjoy your vacation

>>24760646
kys cuck

>>24760558
15-23k

>>24760538
>just an additional context.
ahhhhh here it is!! this is the crux of this entire shit
this "additional context" will be one hell of a coping mechanism for you faggots, whenever someone will bring up this stream, you'll just cry guerilla like the bunch of faggots that you are

>>24760639
Yeah whatever mate, it's mostly just halved numbers, the reasons do not matter.

>>24760639
Japanese also have some level of cull, that's why you can't just do straight "EN is culled 25% JP is culled 0%" and get anything accurate. It fluctuates depending on the audience mix for any particular stream.

>>24760533
I have no idea what that is

>wanted a offcollab ASMR with Fauna
>but with gura since i know gura would take it seriously
this timeline sucks

>>24760264
>tfw got 3 months vacation for funposting too hard during one of the vshojo drama
Didn't even get much (You)s for the trouble

>>24760746
this is /#/ faggot
go back to your shitty general and gosling there

I just got my 30 minute YT notification, see if it jumps any.

here, i let open that botted patra vod views growth graph. No more cull after the 2k from 34k to 32k (and its almost recovering those 2k, so it was probably reprocessing rather than culling)

This faggot has really been sperging out about "cope" for 2 hours now. None of you let number discussion live this rent free in your head, right? I mean shit on whoever you want, but preemptively spazzing out for hours about what other people will say about numbers, fucking hell.

>>24760558
Multiply the waiting room peak by 3 to get the peak CCV.

>>24760785
damn wrong tab, regardless if it was gura the numbers would be better

People are getting way too critical about the way the Council offcollab is being handled but there is also an advantage towards the hype surprise factor even JPs pull streams like that here and there. It doesn't have to be like Luxiem or whatever where they spell it for the audience plus there is no Gura overlap and it's sunday primetime this is not a random tuesday during Kiara's slot or anything.

Anyway... predictions? 20k? 25k? Unlikely to get gold given Miko's WWE and Roboco's live.

>>24760497
How likely is it that they graduate the EN2?
HoloX debuted months after them and are 100 times more successful. Laplus got like 10s of sponsorship, Lui is competent enough to lead collabs with her their senpai, Sakamata had the biggest sub boost since Gura, Koyori is so important she can't be replaced now. The only member who didn't stand out is Iroha.
I feel like growing JP is a better investment than EN

>>24760771
I got a one month ban for jokingly saying I was 12. Presumably during that 1 month I would have made it to 18 and been ok to post.

>>24760558
Eeeh..Gura probably would get a 20k with this kind of waiting room. Idk if 20k is good, that depends on you

>>24760862
why the fuck would they force graduate talents, if HoloID and Holostars can float by with dogshit numbers for years then Council is fine lmao

>>24760538
>It's a guerilla, just an additional context.
Not that retard you’re replying to but aí disagree.
Words have meaning and in vtuber context “guerilla” means an unplanned spur of the moment stream.
Flare the other day woke up, was sleepless and fired up a stream and played some game. That’s a guerilla.

Today’s stream is a “surprise stream”. Kronii (for instance) marked it in her schedule but deliberately concealed the date or content.
I genuinely don’t really know why or will even pretend to understand it but they was *not* a guerilla, it was a scheduled stream that all of the girls knew when and what would happen but they preferred not to inform the potential audience ahead of time.
One thing is for sure tho: they audience would be larger if, a week ago, Kronii had said
>THIS SUNDAY A THREE PEOPLE AMSR COLLAB WILL HAPPEN!
>BE THERE, IT WILL BE A ONE OFF STREAM!
the audience would be larger

>>24760862
side branch will always be a side branch, they don't sink money into them but they still profit from those shitters

>>24760838
20k max, EN audience seems to regard ASMR as "cringe" and they won't take it seriously with Kronii there anyway

>>24760838
>20k

>>24760711
Cumtards and their imaginary numbers, you can't make this shit up!

>>24760920
> a week ago, Kronii had said
not even a week ago
pretty mcuh just saying that on thursday

>>24760838
I'm putting in 30k-40k
I know its pretty high for the type of content, but I think they can do it

>>24760838
Somewhere between 20-25k. Would be higher if they were singing or even just talking, ASMR is too cringey for a lot of people to deal with, although they might tune it for the start and leave when the actual ASMR starts.

>>24760920
again with these imaginary numbers
if the audience is a couple of hundred more that doesn't make the increase "large" you fucking faggot.
and if you think the change in an announcement is substantial then you're absolutely fucking delusional

Why does every fucking vtuber do ASMR anyway? It's like it's a mandatory skillset more prevalent than karaoke or even video games.

>>24760862
Less likely that it would be for you to accidentally walk into traffic.

>>24760838
~20-25k but the VOD for it will be 1m+ eventually.

>>24761034
they're whores

>>24760838
>there is also an advantage towards the hype surprise factor
Yep, huge advantage. People that find out about it tomorrow will be really surprised

>>24760862
>How likely is it that they graduate the EN2?
Who have they graduated for underperforming? Do you realize how many shitters would be wiped from the face of the planet if "this other gen got more numbers than you" was valid?
They'd wipe out Robocco and Sora for one, lmao. Choco, Mel, Aki, Luna, Polka. Nene.

Towa, Kanata, Lamy, Subaru, Mio, HoloID would have been wiped because for years they were shitters and would never have had their chance to incline.

>>24760862
Zero chance. Vtubers run themselves for the most part. After the first set of outfits they don't owe any, 3d is probably already done and waiting, talents have to fund everything including concerts and music, merch pays for itself since it's all quantity made to order. It's pretty much purely extractive from the company's point of view. The idea that the company invests any significant amount of money in the individual talents or the group beyond the initial promotion is ludicrous.

>>24761034
Just look at Vox.

>>24760838
>surprise
>advantage
yeah anon this is why they do surprise concerts, surprise movie premieres , surprise album releases

fucking stupid post

>>24760920

This is not on Kronii's channel nor did she note the time, so this is effectively removed from any notification she may have provided beyond the small number of schizos doing internet detective work.

>>24761067
>VOD for it will be 1m+ eventually.
TOP FUCKING KEK

>>24760350
okayufag this u? let me remind you that your oshi is in decline and already irrelevant as fuck. here take a look of "EN" mogging your beloved oshi.

t. last samurai

>>24761034
Most of them don't even do ASMR they just do whispery coombaiting. And yes it seems to be a mandatory streamer thing, especially for females.

>>24761169
It's not that far fetched if it does it's job as an ASMR

>>24761169
?
Anon, ASMRs do really well.

Hell look at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McKL5PR2F-w&t=55s

It had about 500k the month it was released, and it's getting its ass to 1 million guaranteed.

>>24761034
easy lazy content for the most of them

>>24761169
"Eventually" is a long time and Fauna already has 12 ASMRs over 500k. It might be so scuffed people can never use it like that but who knows.

>>24761263
>>24761263
>>24761275
as much as i would love this to be a normal asmr with all of them. i think it will be more in the joke side since it might be an offocollab.

>>24761031
>if the audience is a couple of hundred more
>if you think the change in an announcement is substantial
I won’t engage in speculation about how big the impact of announcing ahead of time would be. You are correct here, it’s pointless speculation.

Now, the real point is: what benefit there is for either the streamer or the audience to deliberately conceal the date or subject of a stream?
What’s the benefit?

can someone tell me the time for mera mera?

>>24761263
>>24761275
yeah sure, have fun waiting for 9 months
you retards think fauna is noel or okayu level in ASMRs?

>>24761034
doing coomer asmr is easy and people abuse it for parasocial
trying to do non coomer asmr however is kinda hard. Most holos hide it behind membership for a reason.

I ask for the 5th time:
Can anyone give me a source that this is an offcollab? That's way more important than the guerilla shit. I don't see it announced anywhere.

>>24761327
I think it's for security, they're paranoid people will look for them at airports or something like that if they know they're traveling.

>>24761365
No, but Noel gets 2-3M, not 1M

>>24761365
The one collab with Gura is pretty cringe and only peak at 20k now has 800k.

>>24761392
At this point just wait for the stream to start. People think it's an offcollab. Feel free to say you think it isn't so you can grudgepost everyone later.

Fauna doesn't even do coomer ASMR so I'm not sure why people keep mentioning it?

>>24761365
No? Who even said that? And you realize even Okayu/noel take a while to get big VODS?

Seriously why the fuck are onigirya like this?

>>24761474
how long ago was that again? and it still has 200k to go

So we can confirm that gen 5 schizo was just council schizo in disguise right?

delayed 15minutes
so there goes the impressions

>>24761474
The maid thing? Yeah I had to leave after like 10 minutes. Doesn't surprise me that some people are into that shit though.

you motherfuckers really need to stop doing "takedowns" when a schizo tells you who's their favorite chuuba
like, are you fucking serious, a dude that's clearly insane yells several times a favorite that's clearly not real only to try to get you to shit on them, this is a classic bait

>>24761524
>delayed 15minutes
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOW IT WILL NEVER HIT 30K RIGHT EN BROS??? THE DELAY JUST RUINED THE HYPE!!

>>24761083
>>24761104
I feel like there's still a bit of investment after the debut (new group outfit like the new year outfit) but I agree the initial investment should be a bigger part (hiring process, default outfit, promotion...etc)
Now the real question is how likely is EN3 going to happen?
The reason there's a big gap between JP5 et JP6 is most likely because they were working on the side branches. Now that they realized they lucked out with EN1, maybe we'll get JP7 before EN3

>>24761511
February 15th, and it has 130k to go, and it has not stalled it's still going up. And how are you countering the point of "it will get a lot of VOD views" by saying "y-yeah, after a while"?

>>24761524
My numbers... owari da...

>>24761479
Given the quality of Fauna's mic it would be odd if they were in different locations.

i need exact time pls
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only)
1 REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
2 Marine Set Sail (Houshou Marine) - 0d 16h 22m
3 Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
4 Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
5 Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
6 Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
7 Reflect MV (Gawr Gura) - 2d 12h 24m
8 Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
9 Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
10 End of a life (Calliope Mori) - 3d 9h 50m

11 Capsule (Calliope Mori) - 4d 13h 51m
12 RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
>15 Mera Mera (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h
13 Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
14 Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52m
15 Doggy God street (Inugami Korone) - 6d 3h 55m
16 Template(Hoshimachi Suisei) - 6d 10h 7m
17 Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
18 Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
19 Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
20 The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m

21 UnAlive (Mori Calliope) - 10d 0h 22m
22 Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
23 Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
24 DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) 12d 5h 20m
25 A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
26 Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m
27 Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) - 13d 6h 0m
28 Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
29 Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
30 Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m

31 Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m
32 Live Again (Mori Calliope) 14d 18h 10m
33 Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m
34 Journey of a thousand years (HoloMyth) - 19d 17h 46m
35 Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
36 Play dice (Hakos Baelz) - 20d 8h 7m
37 RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
38 HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m
39 SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
40 My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m

41 Mantra Hujan (Kobo Kanaeru) - 27d 0h 11m
42 Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
43 Curry Meishi Miracle (Pekora Subaru Aqua) 29d 23h 9m
44 Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30d 2h 43m
45 High Tide (Moona Hoshinova) - 30d 2h 55m
46 Saikyou Tensai Korone (Inugami Korone) - 32d 22h 39m
47 OniKemonoDance (AyafubuMi)- 33d 22h 48m
48 Bye bye Rainy (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 34d 23h 51m

>>24761524
It wouldn't be a Mumei stream (even if Fauna is hosting) if there wasn't a delay.

>>24761474
>>24761511
You guys are both wrong.
It was on Valentines day, it peaked at 10k and it’s about near 875k views, not 800k. It happened around the same time as this:
https://youtu.be/8Mr9iteEQqE
Pekora and Noel, THE ASMR talent in holo, and that one is sitting at 800k.

>>24761606
Pretty sure they went to Mumei's house instead, and Fauna just brought her 3dio rather than ku100

>>24761569
>newfag tries to explain falseflagging to other newfags
this would never happen during JP time, why i this thread filled to the brim with newfags now? I fucking hate ENsharts

>>24761524
susan: you are already culled

>>24761517
No, I don't think Fulgur even cares about JP Holos and Gen 5 guy was in business waaay before Council Schizo and he's still here to this day where the Council guy fucked off after the discord leak. There's still people who whine about Council but stylistically they're way different than The Council Schizo in his prime.

>>24761608
Marine is so strong compared to Flare...
I like Smile & Go...

>>24761597
your point? all vods will hit 1 million eventually, why would I care about a vod that hit a million after a year?

>>24761590
> Now that they realized they lucked out with EN1, maybe we'll get JP7 before EN3
Anon you realize they have auditions for EN3 up for a while now, right? Do you think they can't do both? Did you miss ID3 literally just launching, invalidating your retarded side branch argument? Did you miss them expecting EN1 to have ID tier numbers, why do you think they're particularly disappointed they didn't get another Myth instead of "huh yeah these are still pretty good numbers"?
You anti council schizos realize Mumei and Kronii frequently beat Mori/Kiara/Ame's numbers, right?

>>24761590
There's a bunch of signs and near slips from the talents that show EN3 is coming fairly soon and they already see them in the discord, especially from Kiara's blabbermouth. The timing works out too from the start of the open hiring process. June or July would be my guess.

Now, to temper expectations, here is a similar stream
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/_gb44X05LsU

Noel teaching Marine ASMR, a playful stream, not a serious one
>27k CCV
>2M views eventually

>>24761702
>all vods will hit 1 million eventually
Can you get a trip so I know to filter someone as retarded as you?

>>24761624
Anon, even without checking there's no way a Gura collab ASMR peak at only 10k

So today's schizo was faunaschizo and council schizo in disguise. Everything makes sense now

>>24761590
EN3s auditions have been "open" for almost 5 months now, if theyre going slow as Cover always is maybe October, if theyre accelerating then June or July id say. August is too packed and maybe Late September can be squeezed in but thats same month as Myths debut so unsure.

Council is the manjigumi of EN

>>24761787
It was a premiere.

>>24761394
>I think it's for security, they're paranoid people will look for them at airports
Not even the fucking CIA have this retarded OPSec requirement for transporting high profile prisoners to black sites.

>>24761769
Isn't that the one where they said they were smashing their tits together?

>>24761787
>20 min premiere
Really any Gura non giga buff stream with only 20 minutes to verify users will be lucky to break 10k, that's how it is with EN verification.

>>24761787
there's nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way!!! this s gooooooooooooooooooorah after all!!

>>24761787

>>24761743
>There's a bunch of signs and near slips from the talents that show EN3 is coming fairly soon and they already see them in the discord, especially from Kiara's blabbermouth.
Give one example, anything, from any stream.

>>24761866
>Cumtard doesn't even remember it was a premiere and not a stream
Smooth brain.

>>24761787
it was a premier and a short one at that
you need almost a full hour for gura audience to get verified

Can we all just agree surprise offcollab is a retarded idea numberwise? If it is an offcollab

>>24761787
But it did. It was a 20 min vod out of her timeslot back when ccvid was really fucking up waiting rooms. There were laughs over how the likes were, as usual, bigger than the ccv. This wasn’t the first time either. Gura’s clip vod only peaked around 4-5k yet had something like 800 messages/min.
We can -say- it was likely higher but the actual displayed ccv was just that

>>24761866
Premiers are just always lower no matter what, I think they're verified differently than normal streams.

15 minute delay on council collab its over

>>24761787
22 minute video

>>24761922
What? I literally said it was a premiere. Unless you think premieres are not "streams" when it comes to how CCV is counted, and are addressing the second part of my post about 20 min not being enough for verification and full incline.

>>24761936
Sure, I guess. They don't really care about an extra 5k watching live, people will catch up on the VOD anyway. Only we care.

>>24761936
it's fine, this is council after all, no matter how hard they try, people aren't interested in them
only in mumei when she does dumb shit
kronii when she's showing odd her tits
and fauna when she's pandering like a dumb whore.
you're just building up to cope, aren't you ENshart?

>>24761808 >>24761866 >>24761877 >>24761908 >>24761933 >>24761940 >>24761953
Fucking hell i check Holostat and it said shit got like 15k likes at the end of the premier

>>24761844
I don’t recall, wasn’t Flare in that one?

JPfags are too cocky acting as if there aren't bottom feeders in HoloJP lmfao. If you think EN branch should get nuked them might as well terminate Sora, Robocco, Okayu, Matsuri, Choco, Luna, Mel, hacchama, Aki, HoloStars, and the whole Gen 5 for being irrelevant as fuck... Yeah that's MORE THAN the whole EN you've been shitting about retards.

>>24761392
The source is they said it was an offcollab, why would they lie? You want a group selfie as proof or some shit?

>>24762053
If I remember right they had that frame up for quite a while before? I bet a lot of people tossed it a like but didn't watch it live because cringey ASMR. Also the aforementioned premier verification lag issues.

>>24762092
Holoen was a mistake..

>>24762109
>The source is they said it was an offcollab
They never said that, though. Either provide a timestamp or kys

see, now you turbocharged gen5 schizo
good job retards

>>24762092
You wrote all that just to take a jab at Okayu didn't you? Faggot.

>>24762092
>and the whole Gen 5 for being irrelevant as fuck...
gen5schizo hands typed this

>>24762092
the fact that en only has 11 people after the jp holos built the up to the success they have right to an even bigger and wider audience is just sad

>>24762092
So it truly was the gen5 schizo all along...
Also, don't use my wife, and my autistic daughter as bait material fucking nigger

>>24762092
Its just their eternal grudge posting against early Myth. Plenty of JPs lose to ENs, but /hlg/ numberfags don't really watch and there's no one who hates JPs more than /hlg/ anyway so its easy for them to just discount those holos.

Reminder that Gura has more members than Miko and Pekora combined.

>>24762251
Proof next thread?

>>24762207
always been gen5schizo. he's been getting cheeky with the stealth baits lately

>>24762092
kill yourself ENshart
if it weren't for those girls, your garbage chuubas would still be scraping the bottom of the barrel to live, god how I hope amelia would go back to their shitty living conditions

>>24762092
You're making it too obvious now.

>>24762251
based

>>24762092
Putting up ENs vs the low shitters from JP. Can't expect any less from ENsharts after all! You were a mistake, you've brought nothing but trouble in the community. Even SEAniggers are more appreciable than you fags are.

>finally get quiet time without chink fujos
>EN vs JP loop for literally no reason
I am tired of this thread. Tired of you people.

>>24762251
>doesn't break 3k views on her shitty mem streams
KEK, four (4) million subs btw

just a reminder that if holo wins today, they win the month, if you're wondering why the sudden uptick in holo vs holo baits

>>24762251
mogged mogged mogged

>>24762332
All EN has to do is stream

>>24762301
>I hope amelia would go back to their shitty living conditions
kek, her house of two months ago, with mold and termites?

reminder that kobo can mog the entire of EN if she wants through a PvZ stream

>Biting an obvious bait
this thread will never be free from (You)s farmer

>>24762251
Reminder that Gura has a 500% cull on her CCV.

>>24762360
Yeah nah. Nijifaggots are always willing to join in, but EN vs JP has happened so many times across so many threads you'd really have to be burying your head in the sand to pretend its nijiniggers only. If someone uses "ENshart" he sure as shit isn't a niji, we all know where the fuck he's from, he might as well glow.

Confirmed off collab

well at least we're getting more traditional baiting rather than fujo falseflagging

>>24762251
>this kills the JPkek

>>24762360
I don't even think genuine Niji fans think they can ever win an entire month, not even this August. It's just close to statistically impossible unless something massively shifts in the vtuber industry overnight.

>>24762408
no, her shitty RV with other amerimutts who wanted to fuck her with a fiver

WHY THE FUCK IS IT ON THE STUPID GREEN WHORE'S CHANNEL? THEY WOULD GET MORE VIEWS ON SOMEONE WHO ISN'T SHIT'S CHANNEL

>>24762390
This EN vs JP spergout is literally about an upcoming stream. If anything, only when they don't stream is it quiet.

>>24762352
M-Muh Gura's fanbase is INTERNATIONAL n-nijinigger! Obviously most of them wouldn't be there for her comfy member streams!

>>24758967
fauna so smug

Fauna knows that VOD legs are more important than CCV for ASMR anyway. This stream is just an aperitive to start the Council offcolab saga. Certainly not comparable with a live concert where you definitely should tell the audience ahead.

>>24761195
I'm laughing here. Okayu and Ina has to be one of the most random ass "rivalries" I have seen on this thread.

hi faunaschizo

>>24762360
literally no one cares about this fodder company anymore

>only 3k
The hell? I thought holox was supposed to be the next big thing, is the last samurai lying to me?

>>24762482
Home sweet home

>>24762511
>only when they don't stream is it quiet
if only this were true...

>>24762532
im almost sure Fauna doesnt monetize her asmr

>>24762532
> This stream is just an aperitive to start the Council offcolab saga
Oh anon. This cope isn't good for you, they're going home right after.

>sub 10k waiting
wwwww

>>24762549
do your reps faggot, SC reading
also more than your precious LA CREATIVIDAD could get on her SC readings, and she has double her subs!!!

>>24762549
>2nd superchat reading of that event at 6am in the morning
i don't know dude, couldn't tell you why that stream is doing bad

>this thread
BURGER PRIMETIME HOURS ARE HERE

>>24762608
She does. It's just not the intrusive kind that happens every 5 fucking minutes. Not that I have to worry about that, I have youtube premium

>>24762532
ENsharts and their VOD cope is the funniest thing I've seen on this board, this wasn't a thing before the """"""""""""""""""""cull"""""""""""""""""""" btw

>>24762666
does youtube even let you select your ads?

>sc reading baits
now you're getting desperate

>>24762712
It does. She fucked up the ASMR before the last and adjusted it after the fact after people were bitching about it

>10k waiting
what the fuck is happening

>>24762549
cute bait, I hope you get a lot of (you)

>1 hour delay
ah EN, never change

>10k waiting
THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A MILLION (1000000) CCV STREAM IF THEY ADVERTISED IT BEFOREHAND EN BROS!!
why do they hate numbers bros? ugh, it's making me sooooo angry!!

>>24762824
no, maybe change a bit

>>24762851
i can't see that crying emote without all the shitposting associated with it

>>24762824
I want to kill myself. Being an EN holofag and numberchad is the worst combination in life

>>24762937
I MISS FAUNA

>>24762937
Squeeeeeebs.

>>24759770
>Migo sold out

I'm glad American 35p did their job.

>>24762844
but if they advertise it beforehand, susan will be prepared to cull their numbers

>>24762970
Good, do it quickly then.

EN and delays, name a better duo.

>ame delays to watch the collab
>the collab gets delayed
>ame undelays for the collab
and because of this shit organization is because they get low numbers

>>24762844
and now they delayed it an hour too anon!!! this will be the first negative CCV stream in history!!

>>24762655
I honestly kind of missed these classic baits compared to the Luxiem shit getting forced down our throats lately

>>24762844
Why are you still at it? No one even said anything ridiculous, they just said it'd be more. You then came in sperging out for 4 hours about how no it wouldn't, now you're making shit up.

>>24763111
that's totally why anon, because they're very funny and entertaining, it's just this tiny little quirk about them that drops their ccv by 300%!!!!

>>24758967
Even IRyS sold out

>>24763116
>>24762844
>>24763044
Stop replying to yourself, you even use the same punctuation.

>>24763108
HoloEN and culled

>>24758967
kekfps....

>>24763108
EN and scuff
EN and overlaps
EN and cancelled streams
EN and Dead Hours

It never occurred to me that the
>actually EN has 1000000% CCV
posts were just one guy samefagging, but I see it clearly in this thread. All along it was just one fucking schizo, and they've been a thing for more than half a year. I'm a goddamn retard and I've chewed so much bait.

>>24763111
they don't care about the numbers

>>24763108
holoEN and VOD cope

>Watson is delaying her stream again adding 1 min each 10 sec
I give up, I can't understand a shit anymore

wow, this okayufag is really something kek

>>24763108
Cumtards and ratiocope
Cumtards and VOD cope
ENsharts and imaginary numbers pulled out of their ass
Cuckbeats and deflection threads.

EN3 save HoloEN

>>24763432
based

>>24762655

man he's going all out today, did something trigger him

>>24763108
A schizo with 2 devices and too much free time

>>24763397
I wonder how clear this thread would be if he'd get banned. How many [deleted]? I've seen this so many times before where one schizo tries to consensus crack.

So how's VShojo doing numbers-wise?

HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA
OF COURSE IT'S DELAYED
EN STREAM? PFFFFT

Meanwhile, Ame

Ame delayed her stream until 2023...

>>24763561
Worse than it's so gae talents, that's for sure.

>>24763561
fuck off vcuck
this is holochad lands, no one cares about your whores

>>24763569
>AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN
>FURTHER
>BEYOND
NO WAY, HAS SHE REALLY FOUND A WAY TO SURPASS AN ASCENDED DEBUFF DETECTIVE?

stop believing a raging schizo when he repeats that he has an oshi multiple times

>>24761829
the CIA has a hell of a lot more firepower to ensure secure passage.

why are we talking about midgets like amelia exactly?
keep your shitter numbers out of here

Is this the newest original strat made up by Amelia "La Creatividad" Watson? Is she trying to become the most debuffed chuuba in the world? Will she be able to get negative CCV?
Don't miss it ladies and gentlemen, soon, in /#/

those below superchat reading should neck themselves

>Zen Lore
>Posted 2 days ago
>video at 115k views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIaZjsGq1Lg

>>24761389
I don't really get coomer asmr. The ASMR I hear from fauna doesn't sexually excite me, it helps me fall asleep, and that's what I've always used asmr for. Same for Patra, same for Migo, Noel, even Choco. I don't feel sexually excited by it, It just relaxes me and gives easy sleep.

Stacking up the waiting room and getting more people informed about the now obvious offcollab is at least a nice side effect about being currently unprepared.

>>24763365
Ame may not care about her SC stream numbers but she cares about others numbers since she knows the importance around this Council collab.

>>24763797
Sana and sometimes Kiara then.

>>24763432
VOD cope is over, Gura's VOD numbers have been mid for over a month now.

>>24763861
She's going to stream over them after they delayed

>>24763776
haha so funny!!! now we're bragging about being retarded in the numbers thread
ensharts are actual subhumans

>>24763897
Cope I'd say. Her VODs are all above 300k after all. Is what I'd write if I were a cumtard.

>>24763820
Why do vwhores think anyone cares about twitch thot lore, lmao?

>>24763872
also all lazulight obsidian and eretiria

>>24763897
>B-BUT THEY'VE ALL BEEN 300K+ VODS!!!
again, 4 million subs btw kek

>>24763983
Great, cant be any happier than that.

He's just gonna keep going huh?

>>24763956
better than council lore

reminder that fags used to use baelz to shitpost about other chuubas back in march when she was spamming buff content, now look at her, actual shitter

>>24763998
I remember when they were jerking it to 500k VODs, now they present 300k as something impressive.

>>24762092
Ey yo leave my bros at HoloStar alone you fucking fuck

Did Ame's SC reading turns into a member stream?

>>24764130
Still better than Fauna

Not even Niji En false flager is this bad what the hell trigger the schizo this badly this time

>>24762332
Korosan was right, we should go touch grass from time to time

>>24764153
she's shitposting with the waiting room

>>24763108
nijiniggers and posting nijis in holo related stuff

>>24764141
cumkeks will still jerk off to her VODs even if it hits 100k
that's how delusional they are, they stopped comparing her to pekora once she started to barely break 300k

>The schizo civil war
This thread is wonderful.

There are so many people upgrading their membership in Ame's free chat because of her stint kek

>>24762460
welp that backfired.

>>24764238
all according to keikaku, stop calling her debuffson

>>24764152
Can't wait for the eventual Collab with EN3 whores who will boast about being all unity and whatever nonsense that is, I'm sure the homos will incline hard after that!

Ame just pulled one of the dirtiest trick I've ever seen in holo history

>>24764198
kill yourselves, you all know what you did
now do as the rest of your ENshart friends and jerk off about how amaaaaazing and funny that shitter amelia is
actual reddit tier humor

>>24762425
>Using the worst bait-biter in Holo history
I like her, but you're not helping yourself here anon

>>24764198
This is actually just normal pre NijiEN shit. Perhaps the thread is healing back to it shitty past.

holoennigger status?

>>24764321
only a retard would think she was actually making the stream tier 3 only, those that joined did it for the meme

>>24764321
haha la creatividad!! isn't that right anon?!
>only broke 10k 4 times this month
l-la creatividad!!

>>24762937
I
I M I S S

Actually report the moron for spamming at this point.

>>24764367
Your mandarin sucks.

>>24764367
coping as always

Weak ass baits

>>24763457
EN3 will have 5 sanas

people talking about ame...but haachama just delayed her stream because she mistook 10m to 10 pm
these sisters are so retarded kek

>>24764596
Better, 5 Sans.

Ame has 4k people watching a waiting screen

HoloEN is dying...

>>24764596
N-no.. anon y-you meant 5 Koyos, yes, that's what you meant, truly, for sure!

>>24764882
that's will be homosEN

>>24764875

>>24765020
No Fulgur dox

>4k people now
>will drop to 2k after she starts talking
Just graduate her already, she's literally useless.
But it's time to go now, I'll be back tomorrow at the same time.

>>24765020
fungus covid is a teamate?

reminder

>>24765179
Of course.

>>24765179
Fungus has a gigantess fetish though

>>24765244
にじさんじ最強!にじさんじ最強!

>>24765244
Man how shitty is Mysta with all these buff streams but still barely scratch 10k median?

>>24765138
Thanks for your hard work, JPchad, it was fun working with you against the EN sharts.

>>24765244
Only one is legal and the rest stairs and zhang mountains

Kek, did Susan cull Astel's subs?
Was 200k now back to 199k. Cam on Susan, 1k subs for a homo is like 10k for a holo.
https://twitter.com/astelleda/status/1528445891333369856?s=20&t=4IV_B2isgw9nUB0eHCujhg

>Selen (+ someone, maybe Pomu) NijiEN WWE
>14k, her biggest stream ever
>Migo Hololive WWE
>Absolutely crushing it, dominating the golds
>Gura HoloEN WWE
>"Oh ya it is probably only going to be a small buff 25k tops"
Why does fags think Gura's WWE wont blow up? Gura is an amplifier for memes and these WWE streams are some of the most memey streams possible right now.
I can't see it not being a massive success.
"23k" Get the fuck out of here

>>24765244
Yeah reminder too

>>24765325
as most as you can try
cant have a celebration every day

>>24765419
I never assume thing
I will believe it when it happen. Until then you guys can theorycrafting her numbers however you like

>>24765419
>Why does fags think Gura's WWE wont blow up?
Because Susan culled her to high heavens, anon. Have you been paying attention? No big numbers for Gura, ever, no matter how buff the content is.

>>24765419
I notice you don't give a real prediction yourself, anon. It will definitely be more than 25k since she got that using 3 games in the past few months. But 30k-40k seems like the real limit.

>another 30 minute delay

>>24765419
I want gura and miko wwe collab, that can get 100k on weekend

>they delayed again
lol. lmao even. well I guess we truly can't call it a guerilla now

>delayed again
fauna you dont need to make this all of nijien collabs were scuffed as hell

>>24765588
They delayed because they wanted to watch the Ame SC reading stream.

>>24765642
*you dont need to make this professionally.

i expect better baits from JPfags but they seems to have an IQ of a toddler lmfao literally waste of time by just reading it

>>24765419
Have you perhaps considered Gura won't do WWE like Miko did? What if she just makes herself in the game and plays wrassling? That's not a giga buff.

>4 delays
this shit will be lucky on passing the waiting room after verification.

>>24765883
so like the first miko stream?

>HoloEN was a mistake

i think people ar eusing ame stream as waiting room
5k on a sc reading is above her usual.

>>24765359
>1k subs for a homo is like 10k for a holo.
no it does not faggot
1k is 1k, 10k is 10k
kys

>>24766050
Ratio cope anon, ratio cope.

>>24765922
that's only a problem when you don't start the stream after the scheduled start time elapsed
they changed the start time so it'll be normal

>>24765976
papakin pls save holoen with your apex collab again aaaaaieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>24765922
>so like the first miko stream?
Yes, the one that only got 29k. It was only afterwards that Miko got the big numbers rolling. If Gura does a one off stream where she does that then yeah, don't expect much.

>>24766050
Why are you spazzing out? These fags earn 1k at the rate a holo earns 10k, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying "secretly they are just as popular as holos and 1k homo fans are worth 10k holo fans" or anything that would inflate their importance, if anything I was goddamn mocking them. /hlg/ please fucking go.

>>24766277
no you go back to >/stars/ where you fags jerking of with each other instead of mocking my hardworking koyo wife to get 10k subs the other day

>>24766165
It's kind of ironic that /hlg/ call it the leeching prime game

>>24766435
Goddamn schizo, I neither watch these fags nor browse their thread. Not every statement is an attack on your oshi.

>Ame is going to premier something in a few hours
ah debuff detective at work

>>24765244
>all are cordillera graphs
>people start to suspect
>the bot rrat gets more and more vocal on the community
>mysterio gets a menhera attack
>delayed the hand off collab two days
>after the mountain gold the next stream gets suddenly clean for once
really make you think

>>24766435
???

>>24766658
yeah real strange
karaoke vs handjob

>>24766658
cope

>Green whore hosts
>Can't even start the stream

Just graduate this bitch already

>>24766840
not our fault youtubes shitty verification cant handle VPNs

>>24767023
cope

>>24767023
Why does Susan keep on culling Luxiem if they get too high? It's disgusting.

>5k on a superchat reading
Buff detective

>>24767136
>Pomu...

>>24767136
Chloe is a failure.

>>24767136
it suposes off collab ASMR will raid her but...
holo management in shambles
bots thriving

>>24767136
/#/ fell for her jedi tricks

>>24767023
holy meds

Delay?

http://poal.me/h1biej
http://poal.me/h1biej
http://poal.me/h1biej

>>24767136
audiostock is a buff

the only reason of why they didn't announce this off-collab it's because of fear
if they don't manage to go above luxiem they would be shitposted to death
this way, if they fail, they can cope with
>omg it was guerrilla unnanounced sunday midnight an no one was expecting them to do it

How long on waiting room recover if they go now? 20 minutes?

>>24767638

>>24767829
it'll be scuffed as hell, probably won't make it back to waiting room.

>>24767638
fujos you need to go to see your doctor at this very moment

>>24767638
It's been delayed enough times that Susan is ready and waiting to cull their numbers.

This has been one of the worst threads in the last month and we barely had any Gura or Luxiem mentions. So this is the power of the usual schizo...

looks like they thorw the asmr out of the window

>>24768121
Based

>>24768121
>Ceres Fauna Ch. hololive-EN :
53:08 friendship ended with 3dio
>Ouro Kronii Ch. hololive-EN :
53:23 We’re chucking it out the window

>debuff detective>>>>Chloe
both are SC reading..
you can't make this shit up last samurais lmao who would have thought HoloX is also a disgrace along with Gen 5

>>24768121
Nooooo waaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Wonder if Ame is gonna raid it once it starts, this would be the perfect opportunity.

>>24768013
zhangs are sleeping or dying for lack of supplies if they are from shanghai
wait until tomorrow morning for the shit storm

>>24768258

>>24768340
nah she's just got to the ow2 collab sc. got another 2 hrs of reading at least

>>24768258
you don't have to do this, you can stop baiting you know

>Off collab
>16k
GYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>24768258
you're the saddest motherfucker in this thread by a longshot
just fucking end it already

>>24768561
does watching from a vpn also makes you see the view count late ?

I don't think they will hit 20K