/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24700585
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>24700451
>>24700043
Let's be honest they're all there for Gura only.

>>24700640
>not wanting to meet the sex rat in person
You might be gay

Most recent update for the median of peak CCV ranking

>>24694756 :: Top 50
>>24696739 :: 1k plus
>>24699479 :: Complete

Here is the ID only table. Five comments

1) Kobo reigns supreme
2) Moona follows, then Zeta, Risu and Ollie completes the Top 5
3) No HoloID falls below 1k
4) Only Mika from NijiID is above 1k
5) The hierarchy would be HoloID > Mika > Top Maha5 > Top NijiID > Bottom Maha5 > Bottom NijiID

https://twitter.com/Ember_Reviews/status/1528114132679114752

Ah, peace

>>24700740
I'm all pressed out on mating, very tired.

>>24700905
NA is Hololive territory

If Gura plays WWE next week, do you think she’ll hit 30k with it?

surprised there isn't more Acen updates. Perhaps someone live streaming the panel?

>>24700829
Nijibros we can't stop winning

>>24701133
40K

>>24701133
>Gura needs to copy other Holos to get good numbers

>>24701370
Gura has been asking for permission for a shitton of games and for some reason, they don't get notified that they got the permission until a JP starts playing it and people comment on that

>You all now remember Justin vs. Daigo
Easily one of the quintessential moments of both organized "esports" and of internet meme diffusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzS96auqau0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5peqApgUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg1xPOUn7vQ

For all the hype VSakyou gets and for as high the audience Aqua pulled in it will NEVER get as hype as those early in person tournaments.
Now, for the questions
> IS THERE ANY WAY TO REPRODUCE IT IN THE VTUBER META?

Maybe something like what's gping on right now, Anime convention with a live tournament played by vtubers?
Could me Mario Kart, APEX or other FPS, Smash Bros...
What you guys think?

>>24701320
Every Luxiem members now possess equal, if not higher numbers than HoloEN members except Gura. This is the first time another English-speaking VTuber group managed to challenge HoloEN's domination on Youtube

>>24701370
Nah, she just needs to sing.

Man imagine samefagging over the wrong excel spreadsheet and at the same time just spout lies when no one engage you. Incredible amount of Autism.

>>24701937
Risu is a better singer

>>24702002
Uh... Okay

>>24701653
Maybe if there were more 1v1 tourneys? All of them right now are free for alls or team battles.

>>24700829
And here is the one for EN

1) Gura reigns absolute supreme, in a different universe from the rest of the field with an impressive 20k+ median
2) Mysta and Kronii follows, the only other two currently above 10k
3) Shu and Ina complete the Top 5
4) Ike, Vox, Mumei, Luca and Ame complete the Top 10
5) No Noctyx outranks any Myth
6) Alban is the only Noctyx to outrank Sana
7) No NijiEN girl is below 1k
8) Enna and Pomy outrank Selen as the highest ranked NIjiEN girls
9) No NijiEN girl outranks Sana

And the punchline
10) Sonny is the lowest ranked NijiEN boy, being outranked by every one of his Noctyx branch mates including Yugo

https://youtu.be/7gRde0xfa-A
Probably not gold, but good chance at podium. 3D live with lots of guests
https://twitter.com/Levi_E_2434/status/1527257776547938305
https://twitter.com/Levi_E_2434/status/1527620155412320256
https://twitter.com/Levi_E_2434/status/1527982543026262016

>>24702002
also is irys but she got shit numbers any time when she does a karaoke unlike gura life is unfair deal with it

>>24702230
holy fuck, this is some stacked guest list

>>24701133
18k
Why? She will do everything in her power to debuff herself.

>>24702173
Sana the gatekeeper...

>>24702173
>10K only if he doesn't stream for the rest of the month
Mysterio...

>>24700905
Was that for the free panel or the meet and greet?

>>24702442
panel. meet and greet is tomorrow

>>24702442
Panel. meet and greet is tomorrow.

>>24701686
I took a nap, did anyone ever end up posting Mysta lewds or did they all pussy out?

>>24702173
i'm impressed for shu media iirc he doesn't spam any bot i mean buff stream unlike the others luxiem

>>24701653
>Is there any way to reproduce it in the vtuber meta
No, Gaypex is a boring ass game and is the opposite of hype. Maybe if vtubers started holding street fighter tournaments. Guess we have to wait for Daigo and Tokido to retire and join Holostars.

>>24702558
he had 3 birthday streams

Easy 10k for Lap, why is there no EN streaming anyway.

>>24702580
Many of the girls gushed over Smash Bros new character on Nintendo Direct, wouldn't that be an alternative?

>>24702173
At least Covid isn't below any girls this time, it's only Sonny in that unfortunate spot. People were saying Rosemi kind of fell off and I told them they were full of shit and she was like the 4th or 5th most popular but maybe it's true, she's down there with the normal losers this time.

>>24702627
Ina is going on her break and Fauna is m.i.a
Rrat is an offcolab with her mumei and kronii, but i kinda doubt it.

>>24702496
Seeing that >>24697179 is on the catalog right now, probably, unless those came from another thread

>>24701686
This isn't close to being true but of course you already knew that.

>>24702588
Only 3? Damn he has restraint.

>>24702662
Should stream it at least.

>>24702588
shit I forget the n pre celebration stream + karaoke
never mind luxiem is a bad comedy without their "buff" content

>>24702705
Yeah they'll offcollab for a weekend and do 1 1.5 hour stream for it. At like 1 AM, guerilla.

>>24702588
also hes bearly streamed this month

So miko gold?

>>24702678
Numbers talk, anon. Look at those numbers, is it not true that
>Every Luxiem members now possess equal, if not higher numbers than HoloEN members except Gura
?

>>24702678
Don’t respond to it

>>24701220
From the con anons it seems they were really strict about not recording.

>>24702759
>>24702230

>>24702286
>stacked
>not a single one of them is recognizable
Do Nijiniggers really?

>>24701653
>Anime convention with a live tournament played by vtubers?
offcon held a ggstrive tourney

>>24702820
Of course they're not recognizable if you only watch hololive

>>24702815
>levi
>gold
wwww

>No EN streams
>3 Non usual JP streaming at this time (some of then have already streamed at this time before especially La+ but they aren't any Asaprogram, Koyori or Lamy)
What did they mean with this?

>>24702869
HoloEN girs are lazy, everyone knows that at this point

>>24702859
So they aren't recognizable to 90% of vtuber fans. Good to know.

>>24702230
>Niji female
>has to rely on males for views
Every single time. It's all so tiresome.

>>24702864
I mean, it definitely has more chances than the Miko stream. We already know it's not going to be WWE anyway and if its karaoke + announcement like some anons talked on earlier threads, then yeah..

in other new irys is releasing a new song without any previous announcement again sigh
https://youtu.be/eM3QQXzOzVE

>>24702820
Sister Claire - literally the only nun vutber
Dola- very recognizable design
Toko- recognizable by name if not by appearance, Korone's friend
Subaru leech guy
Joker Guy

Maybe not the top tier people but solid mid-level. I would not call it stacked but also not a bunch of whos.

>>24702890
HOW DARE YOU! Everybody knows HoloEN is getting culled hard!
HoloJP girls have 24 hours in their day while HoloEN has what, 6 or 7 hour max!?

>>24702969
>Korone's friend

>>24702957
Watch streams

>>24703089
her internet died and was off for several minutes, funny looking graph tho

>>24703089
Disconnection

>>24702969
>didn't put hayato on the list
cmon anon...

>>24702969
>iterally the only nun vtuber
You forgot Houshou Marine desu~

>>24703156
Who?

>>24703161
Nene Amano....

>>24703161

>>24702230
I would love to see Levi getting gold but her channel is a BIG debuff. Another NijiENoffpako will likely be enough to beat her stream...

>>24703414
is that an actual child holding bloop

>>24703519
I don't think the nijiENoffpako guys are doing anything tomorrow, and Vox already left so it's just Mysta and Luca

>>24700829
look at the gap

>>24703541
You are a fan of Hololive and then your kids become fans of Hololive. The system keeps feeding itself more fans because the content is so wholesome and enjoyable for everybody.

Contrast this to NijiEN who talk about ass fucking, BDSM, rape, and period blood and you can tell which one is going to be more long lasting.

>>24703568
vox left and has a chink shill stream
mysta isnt streaming for ahwile as he is moving outl
shu is sick
and luca is boring as fuck.
only possible think will be Ike doing a karaoke celebrating 500 but who fucking knows when he will do that

>>24703686
Oh yeah, Ike has the karaoke to do. Curious to see what he will get considering his first one wasn't even at the time Luxiem really blow up.

>>24703672
I mean, my old son already knows who Gura is even without me doing anything to influence that. Shit's crazy

>>24703414
yes

>>24701133
No. Susan would capped her at 30k

>>24702465
>>24702474
imagine the line of tomorrow

>>24702859
This isn't true. Someone who only watches Hololive would usually know of Toko because of her work with Suisei and if they've been around long enough would know about Maimoto.

>>24703894
Make wonder if the animeexpo panels now because they have stand there, they will present Sora, Risu and gura as the embassadors in the panels

>>24704121
meet and greet is through lottery so there won't be line

>>24704121
It will be smaller. The lotto winners already know if they will get in

>24702969
this better be bait

>>24703672
I have Pomu on in the background and I now feel like I'm on the wrong side of history. I think I'll watch whatever Fubuki's doing instead. Wholesomeness and family values should be rewarded in this hellhole of a world and I'm not making the world any better by watching a shortstack anal slut

>>24704121
And that's why it's a lottery.

>>24702230
Um... i love Levi but her channel is really a debuff so, i'd say 40k max

>>24704224
Good decision to make. Hololive is unironically making the world a better place by not going for "shock jock" content and instead filling people of all ages with joy. Hololive really is like a modern version of Christ leading the lost to salvation.

You would think that the entire HoloEN is at the con looking at the dead ass schedule but there are only 2 there on the con.

EN3 can't come soon enough and Cover better not delay them especially on august/september where there are already too many anniversaries. The recruits better not be Council style where they stream like if they were some Holos that already gave years of streaming or busy with 3D concerts.

>>24703414
>>24704106
ToT

>>24704433
It has to been on June after gura birthday

>>24703414
>>24704106
The only thing this tells me is that Cover is balls on face retarded for not selling an official version of the Gura hoodie. That thing would basically print money.

>>24704319
Indeed anon

>>24704433
en3 next week

>>24704517
Sigh, they're gonna do the stupid fucking "Debut everyone in one day" shit again for EN3, aren't they.

>>24704671
I like that, that way you can just take off work for one day and watch everyone's debuts. Of course if it gets scuffed and moved a day later you're fucked and end up going into work with like 2 hours sleep the next day.

>>24704671
They wouldn't be that retarded, not after seeing HoloX do it right.

>>24704671
Hoping holox style
1 girl each day + 1 after talk with after debut member + the one debuted before her

>>24704534
that's actually quite expensive to produce
i tried commissioning a mid-grade cosplay one
if they forgo the dorsal fins and simplify the pockets, they might have decent margin on it
cover also doesn't make other holo costume. maybe they are trying to let the cosplay market thrive on it rather than killing them with a $150-200 official costumes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOzpsXZS-j0
is mori's mera mera gaining speed in views?
The first day got less than 200k views irrc. Now 4 days later, its got 835k views. Or is my memory wrong? Or maybe instead of speeding up, retarded youtube may just have had frozen a big group of views instead, i dont know

>>24704882
is mori
the realse of it was dumb. so more people are checking it out.

>>24702759
if its a karaoke nah, that's not buff content for her. Its not debuff either but expect low 20's, and maybe high 20's if return buff exists for less than a week.

>>24704910
Might be higher just because fewer people are streaming and there's no one to really take views from her.

>>24704882
It's about standard for a Mori song. She doesn't have the speed of Gura but her songs have massive legs. Its going to do much better than UnAlive.

>>24703001
Ideally she should have a collab on another Holo before release so she can shill it at the end. Alternatively a Karaoke right before.

>>24704882
this happened with LUVATORY too, it had less views week one than it did week two

https://youtu.be/bg_5WgjBc-A
Impressive leeching.

>>24705097
>In as big as her in the thumbnail
kek, truly shameless

>>24705009
becasue the realse of both mera and luvarrotary came as a surprise with minimal hype.

>>24704517
New gen non-number gen with Gura as the leader. Like Gamers.

>>24704517
They could do it in the beginning of June right? Is there any big EN related celebration between Ina and Gura's birthday?

>>24705097
b-but indies hate hololive

>>24705392
Only when they can't leech them

>>24705374
There isn't, but early June seems too early. Could be wrong though and they DID manage to sort out who they wanted faster than I expected.

holoen doko

>>24705478
relaxing

>>24705478
Dying

>>24705478
Thriving

>>24705478
Ina and Ame are fucking

>>24702957
Wasn’t this already released before? As in, weeks ago? Could be deja vu, but I swear I have seen that thumbnail image /here/ before

>>24705449
>June
>too early
It'll have been a whole fucking year soon, fuck your retarded logic, EN3 should have debuted in April or this month.

>>24705641
It's been available on Youtube and Spotify for almost a month now.

>>24705649
Hololive lets their talents thrive and doesn't ACCELERATE out of desperation you fucking Nijinigger.

>Enjoy the different style of shitposting and retardation from each timezone

>>24705818
after the past few months, the only times the thread is actually good is when it's fucking dead, and even that's spotty if a schizo decides to park their ass in dead hours

OwakonEN live...

Fubuki shilling Gura's taiko stream
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1528164977655238656

>>24706089
Nice. Fox is the animal of unity

>>24702922
Hey, Karuta got almost 50k without any males at all.

HoloEN saaa..

>>24706225
>a nijinigger in 5ch
kek

>>24706225
EN3 can't come soon enough.

>>24705898
The rite of passage of a /#/newfag
>Replying to baits and interact with resident schizos like they're best friends
>Shitposting, bait, and ignore numbers
>Taking numbers and discussion seriously
>rarely interactiong and lurking to see the numbers
>became /#/fag
>rinse and repeat

>>24706225
grass

>>24705649
Why tho?
Holo always take time in their debut member
And not accelerate every 3 month like shit

>>24706369
They can pull the break after gen3 to fill the dead hours. There are too few of them to filled the schedule rn

What's up with the autistic rule of not recording the panel at AnCen? Is this only the Holopanel or everything else?

Is there any point in accelerate member every 3 month?
In the past niji claim that having more member = more discoverability and market
Fail in ID... fail in NA...
But they only has few top dogs, and if their top dogs go on vacation their branch most likely ded

>>24706446
Fuck off ADD schizo. You are the only one who actually cares.

>>24706124
Fox really knows.

>>24706478
everything bro. its been like that forever. that said, where the fuck are the east coast conventions

>>24706446
Ah come on,
Like i said, its not like holo implementing accelerate anyway
If your argument to fill ded hours, Then how the fuck when ID only has 6 member last year? Theyre still alive till this day
Cover's always taking their time

>>24706493
I just wanna watch some HoloEN man... cant watch them when they are not streaming

Nijigirls Inclining!

>>24706591
Go watch the JP or try ID clip
Don't be tribalfagg

>>24706369
Because I'd like to watch a holoEN but they're never live.

>>24706624
Whenever Nijigirls incline, Sana also inclines.

>>24706369
JP put out 5 gens (1-4 plus gamers) in a year and a half, there's clearly a gaping hole in EN right now and pumping the brakes on filling it would be just as retarded as overfilling it

>>24706672
Sana, ZA GATEKEEPAAA

>>24706624
yea...

>>24706644
Get a life.

>>24706624
They really aren't and we have been over this before. Any marginal incline they have can simply be explained by fans of the boys going to their channel when there is a collab or something to that effect.

>>24706694
And gen 5 to holox almost 1 year
And the timing for holox to comeout is good
Just calm, the longer audience want en3, the longer the delay
Juat like... half life...

Kiara knows.

>>24706781
Before JP6 there were 31 JP Holos vs 11 ENs now, it's not comparable

https://twitter.com/vconnect_en/status/1528168340824305665
VC extending the milestones rewards.

NijiEN monthly vod views

>>24706781
So you're saying that the ENtubing market is oversaturated when there's a singular holoEN stream every other day? Lol.

>>24706898
an i tought may was a string month

>>24706888
>Details about the added Cheer point milestone!
>- New point milestone is 125,000,000!
>- If reached, the number of gifts drawn from fan submissions will be increased from 10 to 20!

>>24706898
Still pretty low desu

>>24706805
Godamn kiara
That's what happen if you use too much choloroform on reine

https://youtu.be/Se9bKDtmjdY

GOLD

>>24706888
The system works?

https://imgur.com/BRfg1hH
AC waiting line

>>24706876
Why... in the actuall fuck you compare other branch
HoloJP fight DIRECTLY witj nijiJP at that time
What are expecting

>>24706931
... are you stupid or just retard?
I didn't say that
Please point out where the hell i said the market oversaturated
And yes its oversaturated at least for indie

>>24707101
Vox is the definition of creatively bankrupt.

Step aside nijiniggers, Migo is back
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1528170113765363712

>>24707101
aren't his asmr's low numbers?

>>24707330
yeah but i'm guessing he's on about en gold which he'll win by default since so far no en has streamed today

>>24707330
gimick ones yeah
he needs to go 100% coom to break 10k

>unwashed orientals woke up and the ESL levels are starting to drain me of my IQ
in other news though, FBK ended, Matsuri got a massive funnel but went down again for some reason

Using trends, there hasn't been this much interest in the game since Nov 2017

>>24707312
time to run nijiniggers, Migo is back.

>>24707376
580k today?

>>24707174
Compared to the other males he's creative

>>24707389
hopefully Wuxia anon comes back to detail the mogging.

>>24707312
OH QUEEN MIGO WE MISSED YOU SO MUCH!!!

>>24707404
Hopefully, Also she gonna stream at 22.00 jst
So yea probably gonna reach 580k

>>24707377
Probably went to superchats

>>24707113
I.... what?

>>24704319
Idols in the traditional sense of the word mean gods
That's where the word idolatry comes from.

>>24706888
Cut the gift and just sponsor a concert

Ludwig just inclined by almost 1k viewers when he asked his chat to type DarkviperAU to see if they'd get timed out. Another piece of evidence to support the tab in theory.

>>24707890
how does that even work? do people verified faster or what

>>24707890
>1k increase
im almsot sure his viewers only have him inthe background

>>24707972
Maybe the were already verified, but they were put in hidden state when YouTube is not the active window

Reminder that Luxiem's views are fake (botted), their subs are fake (botted), and after that story came out of Fujo's literally stealing money just to donate to Vox, their superchats are most likely fake too. Everything about them is manufactured, fraudulent, and dirty.

>>24707330
isn't vox in general low numbers lately? he kind of had the chloe trajectory, big numbers early on with big supas, then the numbers reclineed behind most of luxiem after a few months

>>24708169
he is an event man. Lewd event man.
he, mysta and luca pretty much share that trait.

https://youtu.be/eM3QQXzOzVE
4k watching

>>24708210
Typical FlopRyS.

>>24702002
Risu is kind of shit.

>>24708210
flopRyS...

>>24708210
5k, she already released this song before right? This is with the MV added

>>24708210
At least the song have video and not just moving png Kek

>>24707760
make me

>>24703672
I'm a Petra fan so I dont see any of that :)

>>24708210
its not a bad song, I like it and if it was an anime ED I'd let it play every time I finished the episode or if by some miracle I heard it on the radio.

The only issue is it just doesn't stick out from the crowd enough, the vocals aren't Towa or Suisei powerful, though she's more technically competent than Towa. She needs something to stick out from the crowd, and this won't do it. I'd like to think that the point she gets a model update will be the chance to do so, release a song at the same time, probably a banger cover.

>>24708210
Why haven't they taken whoever is running Project Hope out back or put them into the punishment room or whatever they do at Japanese corpos? The music side of the project is going to be fucking unsalvageable at this rate, if it isn't already

>>24708482
>the vocals aren't Towa or Suisei powerful
she's really bland as a singer, no unique flare with the use of her voice or technique. no feelings

Millie shipping herself with fulgur kek
https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1528162533873426432

>>24708523
At this point its not solely on how mishandled she is, IRyS as a musical artist isn't just appealing.

>>24708362
Not only that it had subs for the lyrics. But I don't think it would help it in the end for it to gain more traction.

>flopirys flops again
seriously just let her do a Mori collab say what you want about Mori but she's managed to get everyone numbers

>>24708482
>>24708536
Here we have people who have unironically bought into the SOVL meme. IRyS mogs Towa as a singer and is on a skill level that Towa will never achieve. Take your SOVL meme and kindly fuck off.

>>24708482
Song advertising wise yeah, she needs something that puts her on the spotlight where every can get the most out of her songs while all eyes are on her. Anniversary is coming up so there's that, but a new outfit would likely grab a massive crowd towards her since everyone knows she's long overdue for one.
The moment she gets either a) A new outfit or b) a complete redesign, it'll be her one truly shining moment where she should announce her song/album to get the most out of it.

>>24708615
Do SEArystocrats really? Your oshi sings blandly and cannot elicit emotion, that's a goddamn fact.
If Irys was such a good singer the internet would be flooded with karaoke clips of her singing shit with many many views, and just the songs she puts out would suck because muh cover. Instead, who's karaokes get millions of views? Gura and Mumei, who she "outskills".

>>24708604
They absolutely need Mori to write song lyrics for IRyS. But they should have asked her last fall. She's going to be too busy this summer.

>>24708615
Oh okay. there's no point in arguing with someone so smitten by their dime a dozen bland vsinger oshi. irystofats need to insert their flop everytime musical ability is brought up in hololive because no one cares about her

>>24708615
Tasty cope.

>>24708615
I really just can't bring myself to care about her "technique" or "ability" if she can't even bring her own unique style or personality with it. There's a reason why she's a failure despite being a utaite for so long, she can only imitate the technique or whatever

>>24708717
Hey man is this your first week adventuring the internet? You should probably go outside /vt/ more before making dumb claims like that

>>24708615
I hope that SOVL bring numbers but it's not, so what does Irys brings exactly?

>>24708560
does she want die for reverse snu snu?

>>24708832
the EN vsinger spot the Cover thought was a good idea after Calliope Mori the musical vtuber sensation

>>24708800
>Failure
>Has multiple songs with multiple millions of views
You are an idiot

Has YouTube ever explained why they remove sort options for musical artist channels? It's the worst, not just because I can't numberfag channel views easily but also it's terrible for new user experience. What's the first thing a tourist does on a channel? Sort by "Most Viewed" to check out whatever the best content is.

>>24708894
Look at her frequency nigga
also a lot of utaite's made something out of their careers and are now actual professional singers

>>24708615
if good model, skill and SOVL are all it takes, my cocone would not be a 3view chuuba
there's a reason that show is called the x-factor

>>24708832
better than watame at least

>>24708482
Based on her RM, maybe try to sing some cute songs instead

>>24708962
"professional" singers in the broadest sense of the word. So is IRyS and I guarantee you she makes more money than any 2view "professional".

>>24708523
They did. They are debuting in Nijisanji this week

>>24708972
Better than Watame how exactly? Watame has 6 songs above 2 million

>>24706888
Are the whales for this gacha really that strong or Holofags really threw mountains of money for this collab?

Holo Koshien when?

Why aren't there more tournaments for other games, only Apex? Ones for something like Mobile Legends would be huge.

>>24709111
They got some heavy hitters for this one. Even Kiara might not seem like much but her KFP are dedicated.

>>24709111
They had to deploy more servers to handle the torrents of new users. It has just been successful beyond what they anticipated or expected.
For whatever reason, Hololive collabs are always underestimated. Cover has organizational imposter syndrome or something.

>>24709111
You get the points for free and the requirements are easy. The hard part was supposed to be the low 300 point limit.

>30 minutes in
>15K views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM3QQXzOzVE
Is that good compared to her previous releases?

>>24709239
We just need a Fire Emblem Heroes Collab and Holo will be set for life then

>>24709372
it just got worse and worse for every new MV she puts out, the numbers i mean

>>24709372
What do you mean by good?, Her songs grows after 2 weeks or a month and it stops gaining views entirely

>>24709239
its because the numbers on streams can be deceiving, Hololive has a huge footprint of interested individuals beyond just the streams. There's obviously the massive global clipping community, the fan artists, the lore theorists, the remixers, and a host of creative individuals in the community who increase the footprint. Its not really right to categorize Hololive as just a streaming or idol group. Cover is right that its more like a multimedia franchise in how fan interest has developed, and one that has a good core of very dedicated fans because you can 'talk' to the 'characters' of that franchise.

>>24709372
FlopRyS being FlopRyS, nothing new.

>>24709442
>it stops gaining views entirely
irstokek explain!
you guys watching other holomem aren't you?

late but this just got recommended to me today
https://youtu.be/FhIbsvjp3Ro

>>24709522
We buy the music and play it on our Zunes.

>>24709587
wow and you guys straight up abandon her on other platform? disgusting!
be like deadchad pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmz6Ds1UPkY&feature=youtu.be

>>24709627
You want us to dox her?

>>24709239
If Hololive collabs are so powerful then why can't Nijisanji just get these girls to boost up their numbers and save their dying company instead of stonewalling them in fear of a chink backlash? Are they stupid or something?

>>24709667
there's nothing left to dox man

Enna's pretty impressive for a nijiEN female, she had the least subs in her gen for a while and a fairly low ccv but now she's up there with Pomu

>>24709755
chink fans from luxiem.

>>24709701
what does niji have to do with holo collabs?

>>24709522
It's not really worth listening again after a few times. Honestly the VSinge label is poison, there's more appeal to supporting "non singers"

>>24709755
If she's impressive, she would have had higher subs in the first place.

>>24709790
He's referring to the rrat that NijiEN management is blocking hololive collabs. And to that I say: we've seen no evidence of HoloEn boosting anyone but Mori's very low tier friends (Boogie/Rirysia), but we've also see very few collabs from HoloEN outside the company

>>24709755
"NijiEN"

>>24709522
I blame Hololive for not buying youtube ads and employing bot farms like Nijis do.

Ludwig just went from 4k likes to 7.5k likes in one minute while streaming to 21k viewers. He was prompted by a viewer as to why his likes were so low compared to the CCV count. Maybe this can be used as a data point to compare with poll?

what does it mean when youtube asks you to rate a video? is it normal?

>>24709239
typical mc

>>24709862
>we've seen no evidence of HoloEn boosting anyone
Pikamee +8K subs in a few days

>>24709960
doesn't count

>>24709912
>Literally chinese
>promoted by bili users
>wanted to thank them

>"SHE'S LITERALLY SUCKING POOH'S DICK"

>>24709946
What... did you just comeout from your cave or something?
They already do it since year ago
Yes man its normal

>>24709992
yes anon, you have a problem with that?

>>24709990
Can I ask why?

>>24709946
No anon, its the mexican FBI trying to see if you're a cumbud

>>24709992
yes?
she even got onbaord with fulgur shitty chinese animation watcalong.

>>24709992
She should stop being Chinese.

>>24708972
Retard.

>>24709862
>very few collabs from HoloEN outside the company
Honestly this doesn't bother me in the slightest, i watch a lot of non-holo JPs but the EN stuff outside of a few chuubas here and there seems not worth getting involved in

I feel like measuring HoloEN in YT views is becoming rather moot at this point.
Shit like AC collab and that huge turnout for ACEN proves somehow Hololive has gone beyond just the streaming sphere.

>>24709992
She's a bug? Didn't know that.
Is that the reason why chinkies here kept on making threads about her being the best singer vtuber?

>>24709992
remember see screenshots about chineses make fun of enna's pronunciation

>Chloe and Lamy/Okayu both release covers
>Ina casually mogs both and has more views in 2 days than both of them COMBINED
>Crickets in the thread. Not a soul wants to say anything

>Irys releases her song on youtube finally
>FLOOOOP FLOPPPP OH MY GOD SHITTTERRRR
How about you guys do everyone a favor and pull up some Irys pictures to jerk off to. Maybe you’ll find some joy in life

>>24710132
Those numbers are not easily measured so people in here tend to ignore them.

>>24710132
Yeaa and its already been discussed plenty of time that HoloEN move beyond just streaming, its just those shit retard still bantering NijiEN >>>>> HoloEN
But well its /#/ of course we talk about number

>>24710221
aww is the mean numberfags bullying your flop oshi??? maybe the irys general is better for you

>>24710221
>Dedicated VSinger
>Cover budget going into production
>Low numbers
FlopRyS.

>>24710221
she's promoted as a fucking vsinger anon, stop being a bitch

so ina different kind of numebrfaggin how many songs have holoEN and NijiEN relased in this year?
excluding mori for balance sake

>>24709912
You think she regrets not joining Hololive to save her singing career?

>>24710221
>>>/hirys/

>>24710132
I feel like saying that sounds like cope for no real reason. HoloEN gets insanely good views, both on their channels, songs etc and streams. Where exactly are their views bad? not even the CCV is bad to make cope statement like this and we all know that shits busted

>>24710325
>maybe the irys general is better for you
/HIRyS/ is even more schizo than this place

>>24710390
Seeing the rise from NijiEN, I'd say shevis onbthe right side.

>>24710221
How cute, the holomems you mention at least have multiple songs that is successful and other good metrics to look at, while your Irys not only have a flop songs but her streams numbers is a disaster too

>>24710390
if she joined niji to begin with i oubt she had hope for a singing career.

>>24710410
>where exactly are their views bad? not on the metric where they're bad, that one's fake
at least cope correctly, just brag about vods like the rest of the fags

>>24710381
>excluding Mori
lol ok. They're still very much on top because of Irys then

>>24710410
>Where exactly are their views bad?
in IRyS songs

>>24710390
100% she does and any other answer belongs on the NijiCOEP list.

>>24710381
I never knew Mori drink this brand of sake.

>>24710436
You ok, sis.

imagine being a irysfag and a numberfag
sounds like hell bro

>>24710390
how would she have joined hololive exactly?

Ooh, it's Irys's turn today I see.
Granted, I'm sick of the "HCH is hard to sing" argument, just because your song is hard to sing doesn't mean you're a good singer

>>24710454
Retard, I'm saying the displayed CCV isn't bad. Reading comprehension?

>>24710456
i mean is 20k vs 10 people

>>24710410
Not cope, but HoloEN influence has gone far and wide, more tgan just mere streaming at this point. They influence the culture like games, convention and music.
NijiEN is fair contained in just YT.

>>24710481
Why? IRyS' stream numbers are good and she has millions of views on her songs.

>>24710496
It's always Irys' turn. She flopped and literally anyone but Fauna and Ame who literally cannot sing mog her in song views.

>>24710358
Blame management for:
>Forcing their own musical direction onto her
>Not giving her a satisfactory design
>Not giving her 3D
>Openly lack any direction for her
Not a girl just releasing music as she’s getting more and more frustrated by it

>>24710390
yes, iirc even her wavemate follow HoloID religiously, even stalking kobo schedule

>>24710442
Man, that really sucks. Their promising singers had already left. Those that still remain had to leech off of Holo mems like Suisei just to keep their career afloat.

>>24701653
Ame invented Evo Moment 37

>>24710496
I always call her FlopRyS whenever she is mentioned here, it's always her turn.

>>24710507
>NijiEN is fair contained in just YT.
bilibili you mean

this is where we are huh, just "they don't need to stream anymore, it's fine"

>>24710487
Moona connection.

>>24710566
Holokeks needed a way to cope with their reclining numbers while still winning despite their whores not streaming

>>24709990
cope

>>24710436
NijiEN???
Oh you mean just luxiem?

>>24710514
>IRyS' stream numbers are good
Eh since when?
>she has millions of views on her songs
Kek

>>24710549
? chima doing well on her own, suisei who

>>24710566
>they wil never ever stream again
a bold statement.
is weekend and 2 of them have showed the popularity of the branch on a current con and alsoa gacha game.
they really need to stop working on so much shit offline tought.

>>24710566
This is where Hololive has been for years and HoloEn isn't even the best example.

Fucking Ayame and Aqua come out every half a year from their foxholes, get showered in a bunch of sponsorships and thousands of views, then fuck off. No one forgets about them or argues they're irrelevant because muh vtubers. This "but muh streams" shit has always been for lower tier vtubers, high tier holos (and maybe even a few nijis) are brands on their own, they can push merch and sponsorships.

>>24707053
What does that mean? Ina gets 20 giant takodachis?

>>24709946
It means you're special to Susan anon, have you consider accepting if she ask you out?

>>24710587
Are you mistaken millie and enna anon?

>>24710496
>it's Irys's turn today
Of course, she just released a song that will take months to get numbers

>>24710566
Chinman doesn't stream daily and still mogs the faggots on the EN side

/#/ - Copium Central

>they don't stream
>except when they do stream everyday
what

>>24710704
>high tier holos (and maybe even a few nijis) are brands on their own, they can push merch and sponsorships
ok, but council still need to stream, none of them are high tier holos and or brands on their own

>>24710390
Supposedly she tried for Vsinger and didn't get it. Tough luck but Niji is the 2nd best option and she's performing decently there.

>>24710545
Millie desperately wants to leech off of HoloID, its what she was known for before joining NijiEN.

Do you think a Vtuber has a chance to be in MultiVersus?

>>24710587
that's not even the right one
and Cover wouldn't have hired Millie anyway because she does not know Indonesian

>>24710822
touche

>>24710830
That looks gay. Is it just a Smash knockoff?

>>24710830
I don't remember Warner Bros has vtuber

>>24710725
Yeah, I did.

>>24710862
In theory Millie could have got into Holo EN, in practice that was very unlikely for her AND Enna to both get in, or even just one of them.

>>24710390
What's there to "regret"? Do people "regret" not getting hired for a job outside of their qualfiications? Do people "regret" not winning the lottery?

>>24710822
>and maybe even a few nijis
kek, nijishits are shit tier. Nobody watches them except for a few Gaypex fag tourists who watch Kuzushit.

I don't know if I have gone full retarded from reading /#/ too much, but for some reason, nowadays the obvious bait and false flagging seems more sensible than a lot of people talking seriously

>>24710769
Happens every time there's a lull in stream
>ree where are my streams
Is this thread's obsession. This is because numberfags don't watch streams, just graphs, so they want more streams for their graphs. A real hakooshi fan would basically never run out of content to binge via archives, and if they would, they'd be a neet freak that obviously can't be satisfied by just one branch.

>>24710981
I was never not being serious though.

>>24710962
>Do people "regret" not getting hired for a job outside of their qualfiications?
Ye?
>>24710965
Now that's bullshit, we've seen kuzuha move a lot of merch.

So when is Luxiem panel for Anime Festival? I want to know so I can compare their turnout to that of Gura-Bae panel.

>>24710827
Millie is so fake.
I still remember she rejected her flips brethren early into her Niji career. Now, she's desperately trying to win them back with learning philipino language whoring streams.

>>24710894
Kinda, it's focused on 2v2 and free to play

>>24710929
No they don't. I meant as a guest character.

>>24710221
>Crickets in the thread. Not a soul wants to say anything
Except people talked about it

>>24711036
Where is this anime festival? In Asia they might get similar or higher numbers

>>24710542
Irys should have voiced her opinion and gave her input
Even Suisei who didn't even have 100k subs managed to beg management enough to allow her to make NCP with Arte Refact

>>24710827
Ah also
Millie seems like collabing with kaheru_orange
Her other ship b4 she's reincarnated

>>24711036
who?

>>24711212
In NA anon, that's Luxiem and the whole NijiEN deadzone.

>24710221
this is a stealth bait by gen5schizo
he's getting cheecky

>>24711036
If it's for a Gura-Bae comparison, we need a ace pairing with a runt from NijiEN. So Vox/Mista with Yugo/Reimu pairing?

>>24711161
>I still remember she rejected her flips brethren early into her Niji career
qrd?

>>24711256
IRyS is meek as fuck, she will not voice any issues.

>>24711161
All of Ethyria were cocky as hell right out of the gate. I think they were sure they’d be instant big shots.

>>24711358
She basically told flips to fuck off and that she’ll never speak their language on stream.

>>24711323
>No male NijiEN streams currently
EN primetime is a dead zone for male vtubers indeed

>>24711324
yeah, noticed cause he specifically chose lamy and chloe
so fucking funny that all the replies ended up shitting on irys

nijiniggers are shitting hlgg again, did something happen?

>>24711414
>All of Ethyria were cocky as hell

Where? Twitter?

>>24711479
>valorant

>>24711479
how tf are there no viral MGS meme clips for Pommers

>>24711479
Why do they keep trying? Just move to Asian time already.

>>24711479
>0 HoloEN overlap
>still pathetic numbers
The NijiEN females are fucking dead

>>24711463
Damn, and I thought self hating flips are a joke

>>24711495
falseflagger probably
he got btfo two threads ago for not having mysta lewds handy to post itt and other anons provided some furry luxiem arts instead

>>24711525
She is not memable like most HoloEN.

>>24711588
kek
that makes sense, thanks

>>24711525
Tourist don't make clips

>>24711525
Because she is boring and nobody watches her. Not hard to figure out.

>>24711525
she fucking sucks at the game.
is like asking clips from gura monster hunter or metroid.

>>24711525
Is Pomu even memeable? I feel Finana is even better as meme than Pomu

>>24711525
She’s not viral material no matter how hard she tries.

>>24711638
goomba had the non-game part clipped. like when she was messing around with her model, the dango song, etc

>>24711161
>reject flips
good decision tbf

>>24711479
>11.4k total ccv
>pomu enna 3k+
inclining!

>>24711541
They need SOME footprint in the NA region. Their golden boys will stream during Asian prime time to rake in the views and money.

>>24711671
the few times i've accidentally watched a couple nijis they just sound like normal people, and i'm not into that shit, i need my chuubas to sound like they spent a couple years in a helium factory

Even holostar has this kind of holotalk event.

>>24711671
finana because she is a degenrate if you let her talk.

>>24711736
Yeah, but that footprint is pretty much non existent, judging but the people who attended Lazuligh's concert in NA.

Why NijiEN boys hide away from girl streams now?Does Niji need unicorns for EN girls?

>>24708615
I disagree. Towa is powerful singer
>SOVL meme
>he takes bait posting seriously
(You)

>>24711821
There were what? Like 20 people there? LOL

>>24711638
H-haha yeah imagine big number goomba Monster Hunter clips who would ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QfpoJZ-XW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUSCSmSRbzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VXUZmnHlaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJILatRARLw

>>24711879
>Powerful singer
That is a meme. Anybody can sing loud and sound "powerful". That doesn't mean you are any good. Towa doesn't have an ounce of the talent IRyS has.

>>24711358
She had a rule about no speaking philipino on her chat and would not discuss about her flip heritage or something like that. I get that flips like latinx and spics are cancerous people but that girl is hypocritical.
In contrast, Nina didn't reject her ruskie fans and unapologetically leeched off of those Niji homos. She's still a money grabbing whore though but at least she's upfront about it.

>>24711866
shu is sick and all the boys are streaming more int late night or asian times.

>>24711933
you are trying too hard falseflagger

>>24710221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9MXaxaTjQ

>>24711692
https://youtu.be/HrAEqN1aOlw
It only lasted 2 months.

Speaking of clips, has NijiEN ever had something that spread to other non-vtuber communities? Like see HoloEN stuff in racing and Warhammer 40k, how about NijiEN?

>>24711933
next you're gonna tell me that Irys is the best singer in all of Hololive

>>24712046
Do you expect them to? Hololive is lightning in a bottle.

>>24712046
Vox is big in the Five Nights at Freddies fandom.

>>24712067
She very well could be. I think only Sora and AZKi compare to her.

>>24711933
>anybody can
Yeah, resorting to falsetto or head/chest voice like modern singer nowadays

>>24712112
And all their songs are what again?

>>24712112
Sora isn't even good, I think you're just saying random people you think might be good singers.

>>24712096
in r/fnaf, there's no search result of vox in it

>>24712096
Lmao no he isn't. If anything Vox is forever damned to never be big in any non fujo community. Imagine he really likes something male orientated, blows up talking about it, then people check his real content and its just uncomfortable faggotry

>>24711375
Yeah, if she wants to have any semblance of success then she should set things the way she wants to, knowing that she's not doing as well as she should

>>24712180
>Sora isn't even good
Watch out guys, we have an edgelord over here. Don't burn yourself with those hot takes.

https://youtu.be/-5VMfG3CrAw
Ina focused Animation channel.

>>24711933
Towa is pretty loud. That's about it. Same with Moona.

Irys 3000.. It's over

>>24712213
Sora is pretty overrated, anon.

>>24712282
being overrated doesn't mean she's not good

>>24712197
The best thing IRyS can do to is get close to Suisei or Towa that have enough pulls on management but she won't do that because of muh EN label and bonds, shame.

Never cross my mind one day it’s Irys carrying the shitpost element in this thread at this timeslot, normally it’s still Gura even when she’s not streaming.

>>24712046
The amount of I'M POMU used by SEAniggers on Facebook and Twitter actually took me by surprise despite most of them being self-confessed Holofags

>>24711746
what is this?
JP event?

>>24712310
>Tetris collab with Suisei
>Kanata/Towa/IRyS collab with the half demon half angel gimmick
It wouldnt even be difficult to initiate collabs with them

The two most baffling ways to bait use IRyS and Fauna, who are the least harmful in HoloEN. Seriously?

now this is SOVL https://youtu.be/mMvivUXusJ8
seriously though, wtf is up with aussies?

>>24712402
That's not a meme anon. A is a meme.