/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24695877
imagine watching nijiniggers

I can hardly blame holoEN, they still make just as much or even more money than nijiEN doing less work.

They got too tired from the 5 minutes they called Ina yesterday, sorry anon.

>>24695877
>He doesn't know
FUCKING KEK

>>24695970
Yeah, actually having Vtubers to watch.

>>24695970
I can only imagine watching Holos. Because they don't stream.

>>24696127
don't have a hobby or smth???

>>24695877
NijiEN actually enjoy streaming.
Stop making these threads though, I don't want more bronies jumping ship to NijiEN and ruining it. Let them enjoy feeling superior while being quarantined in a glorified daycare so other vtuber fanbases don't have to deal with their autism.

>>24695877
How many in each branch actually have up to date schedules for today?

>On vacation.
>Doing a con.
>About to go on tour
>taking a break after streaming too much.
Just stream! This you buddy. Not like you, your audience and your company care your talents. Barely anyone showed up for LazuLights 1st anniversary and then they were quickly drowned out by Luxieum's 6th month anniversary. As bad as hololive can be at times, they at least try to show some consideration for their talents. They might show favorites but they at least give them some time to shine.

Holo rejects from niji have to run just to stay in place. It's all useless anyway; they were rejected for a reason.

>>24696127
Then what are you doing here? Go watch them.

>>24696226
unironically this

>Not streaming is a virtue
>You don't have anything else to do? Imagine watching streams
>You can't watch and post at the same time
The knots Holofags twist themselves into are quite amusing

>>24695877
wow nice, combining the 15 of them they might get close to the 2 holoEN in terms of numbers lmfao

>>24695877
fucking pooorfag op

>>24696603
Didn't Mysta and Vox's stream earlier today get 40,000 viewers

>>24696869
>D-Doesn't count

Dead Hours is HoloENs greatest nemesis.

>>24695877
Anon...your reading reps...
Neither of those things on the schedule are streams. You diluted your shitpost's potential to farm (you)s.

Tribalism aside, I always thought this was a big mistake on Holoen's part. You're in entertainment, not a 9 to 5 job. You should stream when you have the best chance of getting viewers. The weekend is perfect for having long endurance style streams without asking people to fuck up their sleep schedules. Doesnt make sense why none of them won't take advantage of it.

>>24695877
I know Calli's roommate has a thing at the same con as Bae and Gura. Wouldn't be surprised if the others had similar things.

>>24696909
That's when they start spamming the catalog

>>24695877
That's kind of sad on the HoloEN side. Is there literally not a single stream for them to watch all day? Just a con appearance and an MV premiere? Meanwhile NijiEN gets stuff like Bloodborne, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3 along with a bunch of online and offline collabs.

NijiEN (at least the girls) are unironically overworked

Is the Acen thing even going to be streamed? And the other one is just IRyS's new song. There's actually zero streams for today on HoloEN channels. On a fucking Saturday.

>>24696869
you mean this shitter?

>>24697967
The only hope is that Gura follows through with her guerilla minecraft stream. Likely won't happen, but I'm high on hopium.

>>24697173
Don't they normally have post MV premiere streams?

>>24696909
True, holobronies can't simply understand watching non hololive vtubers if you MUST watch vtubers

15 streams and I don't want to watch a single one of them...
funny how that works.

>>24698063
Yes, IRyS is going to stream later tonight

>>24695877
>tribalfags will constrain themselves to watching only HoloEN or NijiEN streams instead of the hundreds of other vtubers out there
Why do Holobronies and Nijishitters do this?

>>24698189
They follow the brand and not the streamer.

>>24698189
I actually just opened up lumi, but i don't like her that much desu.

Sucks, my indie oshi only streams on weekdays though.

>>24698189
I watch NijiEN, NijiJP, 774, Vspo and indies though.

>>24695877
NijiEN is FORCED to stream.

Its actually kind of ironic.
I like NijiJP more than HoloJP because of how much more natural it is and because they hire a bunch of part time streamers who don't care about the "normal" way of streaming and all do their own thing.

But nijiEN is the opposite since everyone treats it like a full time job, its a hassle to keep up with and they all donned on generic twitch streamer personas with very generic mass produced content. While holoEN while also full time isn't pressured to be generic streamers and you have a varied selection of content ranging from Kiara to Ina.

I mean just compare the NijiEN channel to the NijiJP channel with their clipped content.
Or hell, just look at NijiEN's channels clips pre-lazulight vs post-lazulight. The drop in quality is painful.

>>24698753
NijiEN has way more variety in content than HoloEN?

>>24698983
Different video game streams isn't different content.

>>24696304
To be fair, Kiara streamed on every day of her vacation except today.

>>24698983
Stating my opinion with a question mark makes it fact?

>>24698189
All of NijiENs streams except a handful of Pomu's solo streams are lowbrow trash.

>>24699066
They don't just have different video game streams though. You have people like Yugo doing Mixing streams and going out to film Japan IRL to give guided tours on stream, people like Enna doing stuff like building robots and arts and crafts streams, ASMR streams from various people, cooking streams, fan content review streams, Rosemi and Pomu doing their creative stream ideas like Rosemi doing her speedrunning IRL stream recently, exercise streams, karaoke streams, offline collabs, zatsudans, cross branch collabs, watchalongs, games with the vtubers and so on and thats just in the last week or so off the top of my head.

>>24695877
Looked at the schedule, I don't watch FPS trash so Pomu's MGS stream is the only one there that looks interesting, will check it out. Also why the fuck is Finana streaming gacha garbage on a Saturday? This girl is allergic to good numbers.

>>24699256
I love how you said all that as if any of it was unique or particularly noteworthy.

I geuss I gotta watch Niji today. I did at lunch. It wasn't terrible.

>>24699321
It's a lot more variety than you will get in HoloEN in any given week and not just "different video game streams". Fuck off with your goalpost moving bullshit after you get shown to be talking out of your ass about something you don't even watch.

>>24695877
EN3 can't come soon enough.

>>24699431
And you just delayed it another few months anon. At this rate IRyS will get a 2nd costume before we get EN3.

>>24695877
Too bad NijiEN is abysmal, i'd rather watch indies and small corpos instead.

>>24699431
EN3 won't change anything at the formula, they work hard in the beginning then start to slack off and get the money from the vod clicks and the occasionally stream.

>>24695877
Anime Central is today you dolt.

>>24699431
Another shiny new toy to throw away after you get bored after a few months
Fix yourself instead

>>24695877
Why should I care?

>>24699256
Look at this fucking shill, the absolute state of tribalfags

>>24699066
HoloEN doesn't even give you that. At least half of them stream the same game as each other in a given week

Another shitty thread with people fighting over whose toy is shinier than the other. Nice job OP.

Nijifags will forever be the most insecure bunch of retards on the internet. Sad.

>>24696226
>Let them enjoy feeling superior...
Classic Nijifag projection. The Nijitard feels inferior and then assumes the other person must feel superior. They're just vtubers, you dumb monkey. Now stop making dumb threads.

>>24695877
>watching streams on a Saturday
So Nijikeks confirmed for no life losers?

>>24699563
>they work hard in the beginning
They only forgot about that part

>>24695877
You mean NijiCN

>>24701064
What the fuck is anyone doing on a Saturday
>going outside with friends
kek yeah right I would bet real money not a single holobrony stepped outside his den today

Quality>Quantity

>>24702411
NijiEN has both

>>24701437
I had to go to my front porch to get the pizza, which is technically outside.

>>24698010
HE SAID EARLIER TODAY, OR YOU DON'T KNOW HOW DATES WORKS, OH RIGHT, YOU LIKE HOLOEN

>>24695877
When I have diarrhea there's also a lot more shit than regular, but it doesn't make it good

>>24695877
I ain't really looking to insight more drama, but five of the Niji EN talents have been holiday for 2 weeks and still found time to stream.

>>24704766
They didn't just coincidentally go on holiday and manage to find time to stream, they specifically went on holiday to do offcollab content.

>>24702482
>he actually believes this

>>24696304
Even Anya got better merch than a whole wave, that's embarassing

>>24695877
More like 15 nijiCN stream

>>24704766
>celebrating people forced to work on their vacations
Sasuga corporate bootlicker, no wonder they have so many graduations

why are so many holofags here, when there aren't even any streams happening? what are you doing with yourselves

>>24705482
Coming into these threads to seethe about Nijisanji

>>24695877
Quality>quantity, I prefer 2 streams that 15 streams spiked with males

>>24695970
fpbp

>>24696603
Ironically enough, NijiEN is one pace to have more total views than HoloEN for the 3rd straight month due to HoloEN's lack of streaming and Luxiem's surge in the JP primetime hours

>>24702411
>quantity=0

>>24706169
Doesn't count because muh bots.
Gura's EN gold shall not be infringed.

>>24695877
Watching niji seems like a full time job.

>>24695970
Yeah, imagine not watching holoEN
OH WAIT
YOU DON'T NEED TO IMAGINE

>>24696000
I'm betting on average, HoloEN probably makes $250k+ a year.
NijiEN maybe breaks $100k

>>24695877
>15 streams
>all of them suck
>2 streams
>they're actually watchab-
>anime central
>irys mv
nvm i guess all of them are shit too. well boys, looks like EN is over.

>>24708080
NijiEN has pulled in $3mil in donos these past 12 months.

>>24696167

>>24708080
>NijiEN maybe breaks $100k
Vox alone has 163k for this month (#1)
Gura, by comparison, is at 11k (#155)

But hey, more viewers leeching is still more viewers right?

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

>>24708080
What are you basing this on? HoloEN make a lot of money but their superchat numbers are actually worse than NijiEN most months.
Memberships are probably more in HoloEN's favor but I wouldn't say the difference is that large. Maybe Gura is making $500k+ a year from her 20,000 members but everyone else's member counts are anywhere between 2,000 and 10,000. Every member of Luxiem and a few of the girls have over 3,000 members. On top of that NijiEN pushes out merch and voice packs basically every 1-2 months while Holos rarely release merch only for special occasions.

Nijis have a lot of lower end members like Reimu who struggle to break $30k/year but members like Pomu or Selen or Vox are making more than most of HoloEN. Even if you don't count the boys Pomu and Nina made more in Superchats this month than all of HoloEN except Kiara. Getting twice the viewership isn't worth much when all those extra views are greynames from 3rd world countries who aren't even monetizable.

>>24708987
>Nijis have a lot of lower end members like Reimu who struggle to break $30k/year but members like Pomu or Selen or Vox are making more than most of HoloEN. Even if you don't count the boys Pomu and Nina made more in Superchats this month than all of HoloEN except Kiara. Getting twice the viewership isn't worth much when all those extra views are greynames from 3rd world countries who aren't even monetizable.
I don't even know where to start with this post. I'll go for the most easily debunked one: Reimu makes way more than $30k per year. Superchats are not the majority of income for most livers Millie leaked her income a while back by accident she's probably only slightly ahead of Reimu. Even so it showed she makes a lot of money (I don't remember the exact numbers, but enough to put easily put her in a top percentile).

>>24708987
Superchats are just one revenue stream, and I think they're overrated. They also get revenue from their memberships, merchandise, and channel monetization. That all adds up considerably.

>>24709448
IIRC, Hololive's girls make 30 or 35¢ for every dollar superchatted; Nijisanji probably has something similar. It's merchandise where they make their real money.

>>24708080
Vox ALONE made 163K this month.

>>24709448
>Superchats are not the majority of income for most livers Millie leaked her income a while back by accident she's probably only slightly ahead of Reimu. Even so it showed she makes a lot of money (I don't remember the exact numbers, but enough to put easily put her in a top percentile).
It was about $10,000 when converted to USD.
However that's before YT's 30% cut or the 50/50 cut Anykara takes. Her actual income before taxes is $3500/month not counting outside sources like Streamlabs, voice packs, etc.
Millie gets significantly more superchats than Reimu though, Reimu's income is probably closer to $2500/month which is...$30k a year, probably closer to $35k if you count other sources. I was using the Millie leak as a baseline for predicting the bottom end of NijiEN income already.

>>24708272
>>24708553
>>24709995
I should have clarified but I was talking about without the nijimales. They don't exist as far as I'm concerned.

>>24710048
The NijiEN girls have pulled in about $1.3mil in donos these past 12 months.

>>24709998
If YT is showing you that number and it's like twitch it's probably already excluding their own margin, so make it $5k

>not streaming on probably the most important, open day of the week
why THOUGH

>>24710628
wednesday?

>>24710048
All of Lazulight already earns more than $100K in total superchats, combine with merchandise, membership, and streamlab which both Pomu and Elira encourage their fans to use, $100K a year is pretty much a guarantee.
For Obsydia, Selen holds probably the most memberships among NijiEN girls and Rosemi gets shittons of high amount donation via streamlab. Only Petra may be hard to get that amount of money every year.
Ethyria doesn't even come into being for a year and there is still a possibility that something like a new outfit boosting their number.

>>24712044
What about Reimu? I imagine she's the lowest earning NijiEN.

>>24712275
Even being at the bottom she's still doing fine, well above almost all indies.

>>24712275
Reimu did rank the least in most metrics but there is still the possibility that a pretty good outfit or some outstanding covers can boost her number.
Also using Reimu to say NijiEN earns less than HoloEN is like using Sana to say vice versa.

>>24712755
I feel bad for Reimu because I feel like her low earning is mostly because of her model. Of all of NijiEN. I feel like it's the only one that's bad.
If her hair wasn't all weird and she didn't have that weird hood thing, then she would have fared much better.
I know that someone has to be the lowest earner, but I think Reimu could have done better.

>>24713033
Reimu has other problems besides her model. She doesn't know what direction she wants to take her channel. Her members content is super GFE but then she constantly acts like Vox's girlfriend. She has a very friendly vibe but nothing that makes people see her as "the one" worth donating to.

>Any niji vs holo thread
>NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS

who cares, I'm not the one making the money and neither are you, shouldn't we be focusing on the quality of streams?
All of which are inferior to the JP sides but still, surely you ENfags care about quality and not how much money your favorite talking head makes, right?

Honestly I'll never understand why anyone cares about numbers. As a viewer is seems like the most pointless thing to look at.

>>24713373
Yeah, it's also quite a pity that she has a fantastic singing voice but barely does any singing stream or release covers. I really hope her covers can get the permission asap.

>>24702411
Based
/Thread

>>24702411
This statement is true, but it does not apply to holoEN in the slightest.

>>24695877
>ENs
Who gives a shit

>>24702411
Quality nothingness

>>24709998
https://www.reddit.com/r/PartneredYoutube/comments/r3uo8e/is_estimated_revenue_and_super_chat_total_before/
Estimated revenues on that page already take into account the youtube cut.

Holo has the better porn and also has more of it

>>24710048
>They don't exist as far as I'm concerned.
YAGOO would can 3/5ths of of Myth and all of Council if it meant he got Nijimale money in his coffers

>>24702411
Regrettably the only people who try to do Quality are bogged down by retard shark and lean raper pumping out half-assed stream after half-assed stream

>>24718789
you teacucks are always sucking ame off but what quality streams has she been doing these days?
im genuinely asking because i dont watch ame and most examples were from last year

>>24698189
>he watches the jew
not even the only good one, the literal worst one. what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>24718929
Handcrafting an entire 3D world wasn't enough chumfuck? should she bust out the ukulele and half-assedly strum some notes while singing off key?

>>24698189
Tried watching the PRISMConnect collab or whatever it was for Dota 2 (Which i love) but the main broadcaster girl was just not that engaging. Then again, Dota 2 requires a very particular type of person to make interesting

>>24719235
first things first, i dont even watch gura but i do agree chunpedos are fucking annoying.
second, i just said i dont watch her, so i wouldnt know.
third, while i do think handcrafting is creative and i hope shes enjoying herself, teamcucks suck her off like shes doing coco level creative projects when at most shes doing a fun hobby on stream, which is about as or slightly more creative then gunpla streams.
again dont get me wrong, its nice to know she is being creative but you guys need to stop sucking her off as the most creative vtuber.

>>24695877
Ugh, maybe just go watch Niji?

>>24696167
kek

>>24719768
>just stream

>>24696226
based

Good let me rest

>>24702411
1*1>2*0

>>24705482
>Can't leave this place
>But don't have anything to talk about
No wonder we get so many nijien bait threads

>>24705482
holoboard, seethe about it

>>24720866
I'm starting to get worried about you guys. I only think of you because of catalog surfing, you guys seem to keep tabs on us through Twitter, community posts, and even streams. You doing good, Holobros?

>>24696167
Selen can only imagine her feet
Because she can't see them

>>24695877
Imagine having that much time to watch NijiTRASH

>>24696167

holo has like 50 members but nijisanji has 500
lol lmao

>>24722537
HoloEN has 11 members and 0 streams
NijiEN has 20 members and 15 streams

>>24696167
Audible keks.

>>24695877
having more streamers = more concurrent streams
really gets the noggin joggin

>>24699349
based moderate chuuba enjoyer

>>24704945
HoloEN is forced to stream too, dipshit.
Does the phrase "3 stream per week minimum" ring any bells in that dense-ass brain of yours?
"muh tummy hort" and "muh dead dog" only work becase Holo(EN) management does not fucking care.

>>24696167
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>24696226
This, holoscum, especially the EN fans, are a blight to the vtubing community

>>24702411
You say this when Council exists

>>24724257
>oes the phrase "3 stream per week minimum"
Not a thing, was never a thing.

>>24695877
Do you really need streams every single day? That's sad anon, it's the weekend after all. Why not take the opportunity to go outside, enjoy the sun, maybe meet up with friends? It's healthy and good for you

>People still bringing up Superchat when Nijisanji financial report literally said that superchat barely scratches the surface for profit income.

>>24726482
Why not both? Go touch grass for the day, then watch your oshi's streams for a few hours at night to relax
Unless your oshi is in HoloEN, that is

>>24726600
I'm happy when my oshi takes a day off from streaming though, means she is looking after herself and doesn't feel pressured by her fans to stream every single day.

>>24696603
seems we got a number fag here

>>24696226
>I'm so different, this less popular thing is now my entire identity. Popular things bad!

Are you 12 or just a manchild that acts 12?