/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>24668500
wtf is the one in the bottom right? was it a raid or funnel?

This.

>>24668716
https://vrabi.net/video/-WaxylAWcoM
Your typical NijiCN type graph: Peak and then rapidly decline from there.

(It was a funnel)

are these OP pics of vtubers? can OPs give sources?

What's gold contender? Lamy 1M?

>>24668716
no one /here/ were able to tell. it seems to have been funnel (about 5k from the other 50k mountain to the left) but the rise was too steep. the drop-off/recline does look like a twitch raid though.

>>24668792
nijicn homos hand job/cam probably

>>24668771
Has any of the vtubers done raids consistently like every end of his/her stream? I want to monitor some numbers from raiding

>>24668792
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/2485957

>>24668909
>I want to monitor some numbers from raiding
Same, but no one's using it.

>>24668904
meant for >>24668832

/#/ is inclining

>>24669020
Such a shame then I really wanna see and monitor the numbers and the feature consistently

2 numbers threads again

>>24668664
The boob veins make my dick diamond
Good shit OP

>>24669240
use the other one as honeypot

I can already tell where the other thread is going
Lamy currently at 32k at 800 subs away from goal, it's probably going to speed up soon

Lamy cringing her way up to 33k

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you

>>24669391
>>24669310
Chill my friend, Hololive is Hololive. Don't fall for the JP v EN bullshit that exists to hide the true enemy.

>>24669240
It'll sort itself out

>>24669347
kek
vtubers cringing at their debut streams always amuses me

Cover update:
Lamy - 169k
Watame - 113k
Ina - 337k

Fauna orisong - 356k

>>24669625
couldn't keep your timeloops for the other thread eh

>>24669674
piss off we're full

Mera Mera - 700k, impressive for 3 days, I was worried it wouldn't reach 1m in a week but now it seems pretty likely.

>>24669674
?
I haven't even posted in the other thread

ofc it's a fucking deadbeat keeping that comparison

>>24669735
Of course it was going to get there

This has to be joke if lamy cant afford another 450 sub

>>24669993
Yeah, I just thought the growth was slightly slow for the first day though, but it's picked up.

>>24670013
?

>>24669735
Kinda sounds like a pajeet song for me but it works somehow

>>24670050
370 away now

>>24670082
Yeah I agree but I think it helps that it's a lot more poppy than Unalive. Which is why it's loopable.

>>24670119
yeah i dont know why but unalive sounds unloopable for me
i wonder if the same people behind unalive are also behind mera

>>24670238
They're different producers
Mera Mera:
作曲 / Music:Giga

Unalive:
Produced and Engineered by Elliot Hsu

Is Nier Replicant really a huge debuff game? Nui’s only got 4k watching her on the very first stream but I could’ve sworn she gets higher numbers on other JRPGs
https://youtu.be/_8Eb5zpQBmw

>>24670302
>Elliot Hsu
checked his soundcloud he does some pretty good music that fits mmorpg's

Lamy has reached 1m

>>24670441
nui's range for jrpg is around 6-7k no ? game must be pretty boring for them

Money train

>>24670441
Yes. Both Niers seem to be big debuffs for every region for some reason I can't understand.

>>24670441
>is the game with the twink mc less of a buff than the game with the hottest sexbot in the world?
hmm

>>24670441
I think it is
>>24670516
Good for her but I dont want 1m Lamy's walking around transforming others

Someone keep tabs on the SC

Looks like Lamy topped out at 39199.

>>24670516
No one gives a fuck

>>24670602
pretty good SC for both Ina and Lamy today

>>24670441
I remember Miko getting some of the lowest viewers while playing that game last year.

>>24670766
Hey that's very rude. I do care about Wamy.

>>24670782
nice

>>24670766
nijiseethe

>>24669391
The heck man, hololive is hololive
Besides don't delude yourself with thinking 31k had a high chance of gold anyway

4m yen now

can someone explain numberfagging to me. Are you stats nerds? Data hoarders? excel junkies? or just competing for whose waifu grows fastest

>>24670964
Autists with a statistics fetish+Horse race+Gamblers

>>24670964
Sports enthusiasts.

>>24670964
Tribalists and number autists

>>24670964
All the above and also /news/ whenever it dies down.

>>24670964
i like statistics, and no i don't shitpost here

>>24670964
Im honestly just here to check the latest trends and try to integrate it to my channel so that i can graduate from being a 3view

>>24671047
i have never vtubed but i did traditional videos for a while. Best trend to follow is no trend, just be genuinely interesting and make content worth watching

>>24671082
>Best trend to follow is no trend, just be genuinely interesting and make content worth watching
That got me stuck in 2view territory copying the latest trend and buffgames actually got me to 3views

This is now Lamy's second most SCed stream with 35k. Her first is her 3D Live which got 39k.

>>24671116
i mean i might be wrong but even my shittiest, most boring videos are in the couple thousand view range and the better ones are 100-900k so what do I know

>>24671116
There’s no shame in following some trends or playing buff games but don’t forget to have some content you actually specialize in to set yourself apart from others playing the same stuff you do

>>24671208
900k is insane, there's no way you're just a 3view?

>>24671208
but im focusing more on increasing my streaming numbers and subs
>>24671254
yeah im just using the buffgames/trends to rope in some new viewers but the viewer retention i have when i do my own thing is actually pretty nice even with my new audience

>>24671259
He might have a break out video that garnered a lot of views but failed to put his channel on the map.

>>24671259
A certain utaite was a 3view with a 100M video

>>24671382
ah fair enough, I assumed he was talking about streams though. Music is something else entirely.

>>24671259
Traditional YouTube is a different beast to vtubing.
I probably would have more videos in this range if I kept making them, but I stopped in like 2020

>>24671400
how much money did it make you? could you share some of the stats on that?

>>24671427
not much, wasnt monetisable content - no advertisers in that niche / objectional content.

>>24671450
was it adult restricted or just niche?

End of day 4
18,454,970 day 1 (61,516)
21,545,030 day 2 (71,816)
21,196,400 day 3 (70,654)
21,383,630 day 4 (71,278)

>>24671470
not restricted, just niche. war / weapons related subniche back when youtube was aggressively demonetising that sort of content. But also not a niche where you could chase trends, cos there werent any around

>>24671174
When was her 3D live? Are you using comparing yen amounts?

>>24671571
just checking on playboard, might be inaccurate, not sure what hololyzer says

>>24671607
Hololyzer value after converted is at $39,117.90

>>24671666
If you go by Hololyzer, it does seem like this is her most SCed stream then

>>24671607
Pity, I don't think hololyzer existed back in Jan 2021. Was just wondering if those $ amounts are calculated based off exchange rates then, or if they're always calculated with today's exchange rates. The yen is significantly weaker since a year ago.

>>24671833
I changed the currency to yen and it still seems to differ from hololyzer, not sure how the exchange rate works either

>>24671921
Exchange rates must not have been updated

>>24671921
playboard takes some time to tally up streams especily when there are huge bursts of sc involved. hololyzer is usualy more precise after the stream has ended

>>24672015
alright then, so we can conclude based on Hololyzer's amount that the SC total was 5.1m for this stream, while her 3D live was 5m, making this her most SCed stream.

>>24671921
Superchats may be undercounted since they rely on scraping live chat, which is notoriously lossy on fast enough streams, such that each viewer gets a different subset of the actual chat messages, even with "live chat all messages are visible" selected. Replayed live chat is even more lossy, but is at least consistent between viewers.
t.anon who archives live chat from most hololive streams

>>24672150
yeah that sounds like a good explanation for it, so would you say the Hololyzer amount is more accurate then?

>>24672183
Hololyzer is potentially more accurate because it:
a) starts scraping live chat as soon as it detects the stream frame is up and live chat is available (aka prechat)
b) continues scraping after stream ends but live chat hasn't ended yet (aka postchat)
c) merges live chat and replayed chat afterwards to try to get the most messages it can
I don't know how much of the above playboard does

>>24672150
>>24672307
Ive never followed sc numbers but is there a huge difference in sc total numbers between the two or is it negligible?

>>24672307
alright, then I guess since Hololyzer is more accurate, we should be able to say that this probably made more than her 3d live, even though that wasn't recorded on hololyzer.

>>24672352
Hololyzer seems to record this stream at 5.1m
Playboard recorded it at 4.7m
a sizeable difference

>>24672352
I also haven't really looked deeply, but IIRC, hololyzer typically has larger numbers

>>24672378
>>24672380
huh, so for sc tallying do you usually add the two numbers and get the average or do anons typically prefer one over the other?

>>24672456
we usually use hololyzer but when we're comparing with other vtubers who aren't holos, we have to use playboard

>>24672484
I see thanks anon

>>24672378
And it still can be higher. Hololyzer is waiting for replayed chat to be available (can take hours for busy streams like this), so it can merge with its realtime live chat its scraped, and produce https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/JI2Xjqf_mzc.html (currently 404s)

There might be a surprise entry on tomorrow's SC rankings for today as Sakino Moco, a mahjong vtuber, is getting flooded by them right now for reaching the highest rank on Mahjong Soul

>>24672610
Wait she still going? nice

>>24666828
Acen anon from earlier yesterday posting before I go to sleep. I went to the concert this post linked. I went numberfag during this and the structure of the seating was this:
There were 7 major columns of seats distributed with a middle one in front of the stage, and 3 columns on the left and right. Each column had 20 rows with 13 chairs each. All seats were taken and there were some people standing in the back. So there were roughly 1800-2000 people at the concert. The artist claimed on stage that this was her largest concert yet and that's probably true considering they were playing at underground venues with only several hundred people at most. The seating actually took about 40-50 minutes and people were constantly pouring in until all seats were taken.
Also for the anons that asked earlier, I did not see many vtuber cosplays at all because the vtuber cosplay meetup is tomorrow at 1pm, 3 hours before the panel, and will be where the full force of vtuber cosplays will come out of the woodwork. There were shitloads of people walking around with the concert performer's merch though. I did see a single couple who were wearing Vshojo merch though kek.

>>24672786
>a single couple who were wearing Vshojo merch
Incline

More Nijis coming soon
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000436.000030865.html

>>24672890
Is it EN or JP? Dang how many of them are there now?

>>24672890
>big drill curls
>nice and balanced with no unnecessary asymmetry
Great design

>>24672890
the fact that she's a standalone debut makes me think she's a former big talent that anykara rushed to sign a contract with.

>>24673024
I wonder if the rrat that she might be michael might be true

>>24672890
>>24673024
she does seem like she has potential, not sure if she's a big name though.

>>24673024
Interesting theory. Any ideas on candidates?

>>24673163
MCAT

>>24673163
michael and some have speculated kson alter ego

>>24673188
that would break this board if that were to happen

>>24673188
>>24673231
i doubt she'd want to go into being a corpotuber right after becoming indie

your speculations are garbage...

>>24672849
To be specific, I personally saw: 1 Mori, 1 Calvin (Mori April Fools), 1 Fubuki, 1 Korone, 1 Mumei, 1 Okayu, and 2 Guras. There were a lot of people wearing Hololive related apparel and props in the concert line. I saw many people wearing the Omocat HoloEN merch (presumably because they were selling it at the vendor area) and some of their birthday merch and other custom apparel like Takodachi bucket hats. One funny thing I noticed was that there were over 5 people right next to me in line who were watching Ina's birthday on their phones.
I saw no cosplays of any other vtuber companies and the closest thing was the couple I mentioned who wore an Ironmouse shirt and another Vshojo shirt I forget. I'll be at the cosplay meetup for a few minutes before getting in line for the panel to check out the distribution of cosplayers.

>>24673248
mcat has been having "technical issues" from what ive seen which might prevent her from doing regular streams from now on

>>24672890
honestly it's probably a joke debut, nijisanji has done them before and the name seems to be a reference to the one million subs thing, so it most likely is some other talent taking a spin for awhile

Merch sales

>>24673268
>Takodachi bucket hats
Man i wish i could get one

>>24673275
If it’s a joke debut, I hope she has a deep voice like Chaika’s or Belmond’s when she opens her mouth

>>24673312
by joke debut I mean it's probably an existing talent using her model

omocat partnership still doing well

>>24673346
>xxl and xl always sold out first
kek always brings a smile to my face when i was still in burgerland doing cons

>>24673231
>>24673163
Kson going to nijisanji would cause meltdowns everywhere i want to believe it's her

>>24673247
with all the issues she's been having due to having no technical support i wouldnt doubt that she goes to niji

>>24673346
In addition to this, Acen is selling a shirt with Gura and Bae on it. They seemed to have quite a few of them because I was able to casually snag one after picking up my badge. Though at that time, all the Omocat merch was still mostly available, so I might have just been early. Thati shirt might be sold out tomorrow but it looked like they made quite a few of them so it's hard to say.

>>24673424
how much technical support do you think niji offers?

>>24673275
>Such a great design wasted on a joke
Not again

>>24673424
I will salute to niji if they went and did it after all that NDA debacle

>>24673389
If Riku was smart he would actually get those two since the publicity alone would be worth it
>>24673438
better than her current one im guessing

>>24673461
Implying they would even agree...

>>24673440
Male one is pewdiepie
screencap me on this

>>24673268
Acenon, you going to the check out tomorrow's cosplay event?

>>24673461
>If Riku was smart he would actually get those two since the publicity alone would be worth it
it wouldn't be. There would be a significant amount of backlash

>>24673461
>If Riku was smart he would actually get those two since the publicity alone would be worth it
Hell, VSHojoJP is a thing. They should be the ones trying it.

>>24673461
>>24673530
Sounds like an excellent way to end your career faster

>>24673516
Yeah, though I'll probably leave early, like 15-30 minutes into it, because the panel room is smaller than the concert room. You already know all the people from the meetup are going straight into the line anyway and I'd rather beat them there.

>>24672786
>>24673268
is this you? >>24608512

>>24673338
Oh
Then it that case I hope it’s Chaika, Belmond, or even Yashiro who’ll use the model on the 24th

>>24673514
anon...

>>24673461
>If Riku was smart he would actually get those two
If he got Kson to join, the Anycolar inters are going to play mail gacha.

>>24673514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AU4Fae32pg

>>24673461
>If Riku was smart he would actually get those two since the publicity alone would be worth it
Nips don't work that way. They don't get mad and then forget all about it a week later like EOPs.

>>24673424
I want to see Kson at Niji though. I mean, think of the chaos both Chink antis and fujos can cause.

>>24673275
>voice packs and merch ready for released
That seems like a lot of effort for a joke debut.

>>24673555
No, I was this guy >>24618396, I'm not cosplaying. This is the first time I've gone to Acen in nearly a decade and I don't really care about cosplaying or renting a hotel and taking pictures anymore, I just wanted to go to the concert with my friend who's a Deadbeat and I was hoping to win the lottery to meet Gura or Bae. I lost so going to the panel is the next best thing.

>>24673461
>Pissing off your biggest investor
nice move there

>>24673231
>Michael de Gato
>Kson
If any of the rrats about Michael de Gato wanted to take "revenge" against holo is correct then maybe?
But both of them are doing quite well for indies
It's not like going to Niji will be better unless they're become the top talents in Niji

>>24673612
Wait whats wrong with the models face? It seems off somehow

>>24673553
Nice. Please let us know what you see, and have fun.

>>24673612
Man, Joe was really creative with his April Fools female persona as compared to the other guys
The face looks weird in motion though

>>24673694
It kinda reminds me of that alien looking actress /tv/ is always gushing on about

>>24673631
>This is the first time I've gone to Acen in nearly a decade
Hope your having a good time

I also went to the con this afternoon, and holy shit the venue was gigantic. Like, if you told me this was a 50k event, I would believe that. Even though it was only the first day, a bunch of Holo fans already gather in some parts. I also got a glimpse of the panel place, it was quite spacious, holding probably 500k seats. I’m also straining my eyes to see if there is any NijiEN stuff floating around but I always see Gura or Ina shirts. These two are popular amongst non-vtuber watchers.

>>24673792
why would there be nijiEN stuff floating around, they aren't part of AC are they?

>>24673346
I don’t remember was this directly a result of Moris omori streams? If so probably one of the best side effects out of a set of streams for a while.

>>24673379
Isn’t it standard practice to make fewer quantities for the larger sizes?

>>24673792
Im surprised about Ina merch but Gura has had good market penetration due to her memes

>>24673829
no actually it's the reverse

>>24673346
To be fair, it’s really good merch

>>24673829
>Isn’t it standard practice to make fewer quantities for the larger sizes?
from my experience in NA cons a lot of tshirt sellers actually do the opposite

>>24673829
Yes, but we're talking about North America here

>>24673792
It feels about as populated as when I last went, but you really haven't seen anything yet, Saturday is where the REAL crowds come. I could believe that the Holo collab alone probably boosted Acen from 30k to 35k or even higher.
>>24673663
>>24673772
Thanks frens, I have a somewhat interesting question prepared and hopefully I'm able to get in line early enough to both get into the panel and ask my question.

>>24673829
anime and anime adjacent even cons usually do the opposite

>>24673807
Fan love to cosplay or promote the niche stuff they like. I remember seeing a bunch little pockets of SMT meetings around 2001-2

>>24673807
Anon, if there is a vtuber event, you are bound to see them stealth advertising NijiEN.

>>24673890
Somehow it's very sad...

>>24673889
That wouldnt be a surprise since some of my friends from California actually flew to the con

>>24673890
not even anime adjacent, most cons do the opposite mostly because most people will settle for a larger size if they can't buy the size they would prefer, but most people will not settle for the smaller size

>>24673889
Yeah, I can’t wait for the panel itself since it’s the most advertised. Baiters here love to throw out HoloEN being irrelevant in NA but they usually live outside of this place. To be honest, the mercy sales prove the otherwise.

>>24673792 (me)
Oh yeah, one more thing. I try asking people what they think of Luxiem (mostly those who hang around vtuber booths). The most answers were either “who” or “not interest in males”

>>24673926
i agree but there's a sizable difference from let say a star wars con to an anime con when it comes to preparing tshirt sizes
from my personal observation it might have something to do with the casual an fan ratio

>>24672890
https://twitter.com/1000000lome
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg

>>24674010
I mean, obviously

>>24674018

>>24674042
21k? That's very strong.

>>24674010
Yeah its understandable since its a con with female hololive guests
im actually tempted to ask the same question in a a small fujo centered con happening in my area

>>24674071
no
no it isn't

>>24673275
who is close to 1m? maybe this is another fem kuzuha gag?

>>24674105
It's probably Nijisanji main ch gag if it's a gag

>>24674076
do it

>>24674071
>Account made May 18
seems so

Having browsed /hlg/ and /hlgg/ for years it actively surprises me how much more of a shithole /#/ has turned into in just like, the past few months. I guess a thread that puts so much emphasis on tribalism was bound to devolve but jesas

>>24674224
>>24674076
ANON NO

>>24674233
It's only a shithole if you're not part of the winning team anon

>>24674224
I might actually
might be a good icebreaker if anything

>>24674233
Two big things that really pushed /#/ off the deep end
>Discord #vent leak
>Luxiem's fanbase invading /vt/, and /#/ as a result of that
I don't think I need to elaborate on either of those points, yea?

>>24674272
also assuming you're in NA, ask them who their oshi is, it would help to see if Vox actually has the most NA fans or if the other boys have more NA fans.

It's pretty interesting, without lamy's spike, these streams were essentially the exact same. It feels like an apparent longer verification time for EN streams prevents this sort of sharp rise and fall that leads to the high peak ccv.
What a great day for streams though, I'm happy for these two.

>>24674298
no im in sea
im interested to learn if the whole luxiem has a huge fanbase in sea thing is actually true

>>24674275
Well the Luxiem fanbase itt seems less focused on bragging about their numbers than they are focues on shitting up the thread and making it unusable so no one ever discusses their numbers.

>>24674275
I think the turning point is when someone bots Millie's stream

>>24674334
ah that's fine too, might as well ask it anyways.

>>24674275
Sure Nijisanji got lucky with Luxiem, but at the end of the day, they still failed their most initial market. Nowadays, there is a lot less NijiEN fans in NA from my experience.

>>24674336
classic deflection, make them talk about something else so they don't talk about the shit that you don't want them to talk about.
This is why the moment you feel the thread getting derailed you take the entire discussion and make a thread on the catalogue out of it

>>24674071
>>24674097
>>24674232
Is this better then Nijien/ridiculous got for the same timeframe?

>>24674343
Unfortunately the nijien fans do not seem to understand that botting streams is not the goal of this thread and they're somehow convinced that spamming it will stop people from doing it. Not only was it one retard, but actively provoking schizos has never once had the effect of getting them to stop, just dig their heels in.

>>24674382
We really do need a honeypot thread huh?

>>24674345
But when i can and do go back to NA for cons i will honestly try to also check especially if im gonna do another bts/kpop convention since im assuming there might be an overlap of fans

current contender?

>>24674429
yeah, it'd be interesting to see. there's definitely a lot of overlap between the fanbases.

>>24673889
Going to bed now so I can get up early and in line, but just to preemptively quash any baiters, here's a parting gift as proof that I am actually there and I'm not just making shit up. I recorded a really shitty quality video of a moment from the concert. We were asked not to photograph or record the concert but I did it anyway cause this moment was so ridiculous I just had to record it.

https://files.catbox.moe/k32kbg.mp4

>>24674405
Was this better then Nijien? Yes

>>24674336
Because of the following
>They get either shockingly shit numbers during NA hours or mediocre numbers at best
>They're full of SEA, JP and Zhang women
>There is known behavior that numberfags of the above demographic do engage in, the same nonsense that Kpop stans devolve into and make fair numberfagging into a 'frre for all viewfarms/botfest' arms race vs YouTube.
The above points mean that if they are engaging in full-out shenanigans, theyd rather not discuss things in good faith, because discussion in good faith ends up having to stare at the elephant sitting in the mountains, so to speak.

>>24674433
BELIEVE IN KING
WWKD
#KINGGOLD

anons, the tread is as good as (you) make it to be
let them samefag and don't feed them (you)'s
like certain other general that's been shitpost free since forever
make them baits for the schizos to use elsewhere. they'll farm their (you)'s there and not here

>>24674406
HoloEN always has a natural audience, that’s why they are stable. NijiEN feels hotshotted every single time, even their high viewership seems unnatural.

>>24674433
Lamy's 39k
NijiEN offpako
King if he does multiple miracle runs

>>24674456
thats because mysta was raped in the warm british summer of 2022 by a bunch of anglos

>>24674334
Try to ask if they know any other male vtubers outside of luxiem/noctyx, I wanna know how many of these girls’ first exposure to male vtubers is nijien males

>>24674451
i dunno, i caught some of his play yesterday. his team wasn't doing too good. maybe it's part of his strategy like with vsaikyou. play it dumb during scrims

>>24674449
that's why you see alot of the "it's natural to bot and viewfarm" copes coming up lately, they know that luxiem is getting botted, they just don't want to admit it because that would mean getting mocked by the holofags so they are moving on to trying to normalize it in the hopes that when the ice eventually breaks the shock won't be as harsh

Any future gacha games that could sponsor Holo/Niji? I think Ni No Kuni would sponsor them

>>24674433
NijiEN hand stream apparently

>>24674456
>trying so hard to win imaginary medal on mongolian basket weaving forum
Don't they realize that it will just hurt them in the long run?

>>24674433
My boy Kaida revealing his new costume today
https://twitter.com/kaida_haru/status/1527909222104842241

>>24674343
The peenoise nijidogs are a rowdy bunch. I dont think hk/tw fans would stoop that low

>>24674442
yeah thats what also interest me
>>24674483
>Try to ask if they know any other male vtubers outside of luxiem/noctyx
the recent one i went to actually knew about vox but not luxiem cause i think he had a collab with some flip vtuber but other than him i dont think they know that male vtubers that target the female demo exist

>>24674503
I don't think it's bots, viewfarms seem more likely since the VODs still count the views (but don't cull them since there is watch history on the devices to make them seem like they're actual people).

>>24674526
>New costume after 3d
Man is eating well this month

>>24674537
also ask them their opinion on Hololive, if they've ever watched it, or NijiJP

>>24674549
okay can we establish exactly what's the difference between bots and viewfarms again?

>>24674510
uma musume x hololive

>>24674549
Look just regard the word bot as "unnatural view boosting", you can't expect people to always use bots/and or viewfarms.

https://twitter.com/fran_chou_chou/status/1527838366116585474?s=19

>thread got linked from the other thread
>Immediately goes to shit

>>24674558
>also ask them their opinion on Hololive
already did
more or less 3/4 of them actually want a full blood flip talent in holo and 1/4 doesnt want to since it might hurt/spoil the current relationship that most flip vtubers have with nijisanji because they are tribalniggers

>>24674562
Botting is views gained via a program.
View farms are (and this is honestly pathetic) paid services where people actually have hundreds if not thousands of phones set up and they will manually give you engagement by redirecting them to something. In essence, in a view farm someone is actually behind all these accounts and they're all "legit" from that standpoint, but they're not actually watching shit.

This explains it better https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/look-behind-scenes-click-farms, though its about click farms.

>>24674612
I assume from that response they probably watch filipino vtubers, are they fans of Millie then?

>>24674607
It's pretty civil tho?

>>24674562
Bots
>Automated, scripta/virtual decides to throw a fuckton of -ghost viewers- at a
stream
Viewfarms
>Actual devices, sometimes 50-100(exact scale dependent on size of operation) per person, manually selecting a streaming and tuning in to a stream or using a server to direct all the devices to do so. On a smaller scale, girls grabbing 5+ devices in their home and watching a song/viewing a stream on all the devices to get past the 5? Views you can contribute a day per account.

>>24674510
Apex mobile? They can try to sponsor Ame/Bae or Selene.

>>24674607
You just need to filter boost, bot, cull, viewfarm anon. It does wonders and is basically what this thread would have been if EN numbers are split.

>>24673346
>the biggest sizes sold out
>the smallest struggle
kek
i knew mutts were fat but

>>24674233
I'm starting to think I'm cursed. Every thread I start lurking turns to shit.
>started lurking /vyt/ in 2018
>started lurking /hlg/ when it split from /vyt/
>started lurking # late summer last year
I barely even post, I just lurk.

kill yourself

>>24674661
Is Apex Mobile good?

>>24674686
who asked

>>24674612
ask them if they know ada m. pretty good flip vsinger.
she seem to be a noctyx fan. not sure if she follow luxiem.

>>24674687
nijiseethe

>>24674686
Have you ever watch Nijisanji's EN branch? They are very talented and friendly group.

Ah, about time.
Welp, bail time

>>24674645
You have no fucking idea if you don't recognize those posts already anon

>>24674752
well, the other thread is pretty much dead, so it's about time they showed up

>>24674433
https://youtu.be/9rZ9C6njp2U

>>24674643
yeah outside holo most of them watch millie from nijisanji or purin from tsun
strangely enough a number of them watch selen
for holo its was the usual en lineup with gura, calli in front and at third mumei for some reason
there were 2 sora fans for some reason though
>>24674718
ill ask that next con/meetup anon

>>24674233
ogey newfag

>>24674787
live rape?

>>24674713
Doesn't matter, I'll force my answer down your throat without your permission.

>>24674713
me

>>24674791
stop spoiling every line of your text for no reason you fucking autist

>>24674812
>down your throat
That's not how conversations work.

https://youtu.be/qQTHFf08l5w

>>24674814
proof?

>>24674787
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGH

>>24674791
probably because Selen has the widest appeal of NijiEN due to being the closest to a normal 3d gamer.
Also, Gura and Mumei fans usually overlap so I'm not surprised, most Gura fans would also be fans of Mumei.

>>24674824
sorry anon
>>24674862
>most Gura fans would also be fans of Mumei
huh thats actually a surprise for me since i would have thought that Bae would have been their choice outside myth

>>24674668
Filter shart, Holonigger and Enfag to get rid of the other set of obnoxious faggots that shit up thread and things are mostly peaceful.

>>24673389
>>24673231
Kson to anykara would kill luxiem. Now the weibo antivtuber chinks would have more reason to anti them

>>24674901
>Bae
most boring member of EN, devoid of any personality or memeability

>>24674901
why did you think Bae would be? She doesn't really have the same appeal as Gura. Gura and Mumei are just better streamers than she is

https://youtu.be/eM3QQXzOzVE
IRyS finally putting this song on her channel

>>24674971
it won't boost the views that much, probably will still end up in the 300k range

>>24673389
Utter madness, Kson is a holofag through and through and wouldn't blow up her own reputation, nor would Nijis piss of their chinks like that

>>24674928
>>24674930
i thought that le quirky vtuber was gura and bae's thing
i actually dont watch anything outside jp and only know en by clips

>>24673590
Can he even speak Japanese?

>>24674971
only irystoniggers like you even care about flopRyS in the numbers thread, pretty sad

>>24674928
Hard disagree, although yeah I agree that Gura fans would would much rather prefer someone like Moom

>>24675014
oh, no wonder, that's why you're confused then.

>>24675014
no wonder you sound retarded

>>24675014
going by survey posts, mumei & fauna are 2nd/3rd for chumbuds

whats ur favorite number

>>24675014
Mumei is the le quirky girl
Bae is the gimmick/creative content streamer of the group so more like Ame than Gura although lately she hasn't had time to do stuff like that due to irl stuff.

>>24675139
I always liked the number 3.

>>24675139
√(−x) = i√x

>>24675139
33
42
72

>>24675081
huh interesting
>>24675146
school irl stuff?

I find it funny how the whole EN indie vtuber scene is just leaning towards NijiEN at this point, doing the same thing they do.
HoloEN has become persona non grata to pretty much every small indie. One mention of Hololive their their streams and you will get insta banned.

>>24674018
>Hyakuman
Is not a joke?

>>24675139
these numbers

>>24674549
For all intents and purposes, bots vs view farms is a fairly meaningless distinction for us. Someone pays a website, a program or chinese pushes play. The day they make an iphone clicking robot the difference is 0.

The distinction is only important if we knew how each effects views, vods, cull rate, etc.

>>24675238
Any examples of this?

>>24675227
Yeah, school stuff has her pretty busy this month
She has tons of projects and ideas planned for next month when she'll have all the time in the world.

>>24675256
Jokes are the deepest lore
No, it's real

>>24675285
hopefully she finishes her school stuff then and gets to do her projects

>>24675238
no one wants a fanbase of rabid holobronies

>>24674565
>horse pussy
>gacha
>holo
Jesas the numbers will be amazing

>>24675256
Still thinking it will be someone with a voice changer or some Niji staff
Some nips commented on it but the main channel got to 1M the 24 of last month and she is debuting at the 24 but this month lol

>>24674787
ToT

>>24675339
Are you thinking that nijisanji is getting their own Omega?

>>24675378
or they poached omega thinking that she was the reason for myths popularity

>>24675378
omega is a cautionary tale, anon
you're not supposed to follow it

>>24675277
Yea. I'm willing to admit that since I don't operate one of these things, I have no idea how YouTube would cull it/how it would affect a graph of the CCV, and leave it at that. Just that it's only these blokes that have these wacky graphs.

>>24675400
KEK
i like this rrat

>>24675400
AHHAHAHA

>>24675400
That sounds like something Anycolor would do

lamyshizo vent his lust on other thread

>>24675400
If you can't poach talent, poach staff.

>>24675400
I mean, NijiEN has a surge of sponsorships and HoloEN sort of dips since Omega went radio-silent. I think the person has a lot of connections and networks.

>>24675238
Source: I made it the fuck up.

>>24675462
I think Omega fits the NijiEN structure than HoloEN.

>>24675418
Wouldnt that end any and all potential future cross company collabs since omega is a tribalfag that makes /vt/ look like r/vtuberunity?

>>24675462
nijifag cope

do schizos really?

>>24675489
I can see it happening, but amongst the dregs of the 2 views that are seething or those who are vehemently against idols.

>>24675507
i mean it was confirmed that omega did have connections to taco bell mainly because it was his diet

>>24675507
I just noticed they had a bunch of new sponsored streams, that's all.

I've seen a lot more Nina antis on Weibo after the pocky collab, kek

>>24675530
seethe
>>24675535
cope

The jews became 2views

>>24675546
The Fulgur bathe with me and Knox asmr might bring in some viewers

I can't sleep.

>>24675549
they were always 2views anon especially that they divided their audience to hebrew streams and english streams

>>24675571
ABAYO

>>24675238
>>24675327
>>24671555
>>24671905
>>24672143
>>24672230
>>24672305
>>24672278
>>24672573
>>24672874
>>24672935
>>24673402
remember lads, nijiniggers are the enemy

>>24675569
try harder

>>24675543
meh, unless they start helping chinese /pol/ all they are really doing is seething impotently

>>24675583
meds

Threadly reminder

>>24675549
they should adopt mashiro yuki

>>24675601
i think it would be the reverse especially if theres gonna be a big fujo yab chinese /pol/ is definitely gonna help fan the anti sentiment

>>24675583
Obsessed

>>24675601
>>24675661
10 tweets everyday

>>24675661
the point is that unless the fujos and chink pol join forces all they are really doing is being catty on the internet so they have pretty much the same impact as anything we do here
alot less impact even

>>24675549
What are their target audience?

>>24675725
other jews

>>24675725
/pol/ and jidf

Lamy is bless by the god of ero.

>Iroha playing FF14
Remember the anon bragging about 10k samurai the previous days?

Seffyna ExKR really inclined after the merger. Usually her streams were in the range of 200 but now a lot of times she goes way above. Interesting performance

https://youtu.be/G9pwxePu7Hs

but Nina is bullying Vox

lmao did the zhangs actually get triggered from all the mountainposting yesterday?
They seem to have spent at least 5 hours coping and seething.

>>24675583
>It's ok to be retarded and fall for every bait imaginable as long as I can pin it on the nijiniggers and say that's what they're really like anyway

https://youtu.be/EXermDYeni0
>all those gift membership
What's going on in this pre-chat

>>24675549
Has Moona responded to her sister's tweet?

>>24675796
Yes, and they got doubly pissed that the image got posted onto the reddit as well

>>24675776
Yea, after the merger
She's start pandering to JOP instead of gook
Its like she left all the dead weight behind

>>24675763
Dang she fell into the FF14 pit again

>>24675776
from what I understand she hard pivoted to speaking nip full time after the merger

>>24675813
Which one?
The jews?

>>24675813
no

>>24672890
I will watch her if she has an ojousama voice and gives me a good "OHOHOHOHOHO"

>>24675813
can moona save the mulsim-jews relationship?
she tried with the russian and it hasn't gone well.

>>24673241
niji would also be known as retards who trust a literal contract breacher lmao, would be fun.

>>24673231
someone said Noripro had a graduation recently, maybe it's them?

>>24675617
Anon who posted that picture to Reddit here. Apparently someone reported me so the admins sent an automated mod message asking if I'm depressed and/or suicidal kek. Just thought I'd let you know

>>24671499
what number is this

>>24675796
shitpost that nijifags made just made people triggered

but shitposts that holofags make, apart from making them triggered, it also provides information that is detrimental to their image

>>24675877
Eh? The russian go really well
With that mana(?) Thing right?
Turn out internet indog really like russian for some reason
Idk why

>>24675400
KEK I'm investing in this rrat

>>24675909
with mana yes. but she couldn't reach putin's frozen heart

>>24675901
based

>>24675901
LMAOOOO
My sides

>>24675901
essentially redditspeak for "kys"

>>24675834
>>24675849
She always spoke spoke japanese like all KR. From what I remember they speak japanese on youtube and KR on twitch. But Seffyna 99% of the times use youtube so..

>>24675909
Indo pro russia? dank thanks to moona then

>>24675485
>>24675518
>>24675541
>>24675571
>>24675597
>>24675620
The tally has not been posted yet
But please post more after the tally is announced

>>24673607
KSon going corpo is always going to be newfags coping, we know why she left holo, and if she ever got tired of doing things herself, they've made it pretty clear that there's a place for her.

>>24675901
either they reported your post as self-harm or r/vt mods trying to be funny

>>24675901
On that note, someone went fucking ballistic and sounded like he was tearing up in the other thread that anyone would dare accuse the boys of doing such a thing.

>>24675763
Collab with Rin let's goooooii

>>24675942
No not pro russia
From what ive read They like russian, but not russia or even pro russia
Thats why its really weird

>>24675961
nijizhangs are a hilarious bunch

>>24675939
interesting. I really want to see some data at how the exkr and exid made in numbers one month after merge. Its ofc a bit soon to see, but i think examples like suha and seffyna are already out there

>>24675961
Doesn't have to be the boys. Heck, most of their fans are, while zealous, probably above doing such nonsense. All it takes is a small group of deranged fuckers to constantly try and boost their numbers to get this sort of nonsense to spiral out of control.

>>24675961
other people beginning to notice the timeslot changes too

>>24675949
that horny lamyshizo seem already take the vacation

>>24675942
back in the days before the cia took out soekarno and genocide the commies, indo was a founding member of the non-aligned movement.

>>24669391
>Jealous nijinigger trying to sow discord between hololive fans, 2022, colorised.

>>24674787

>>24675952
I agree, but that was a joke about antis sending dangerous stuff to Any color HQ

>>24675790
they knew what they signed up for by joining bullysanji

>>24675975
hey Russians used to be genuinely cool dudes who got shitfaced on vodka, squatted on an old soviet anti aircraft gun before destroying a barn with it or something, it's not surprising that they might like the culture but not the "steal clay" bits

So totsus weren't much of a buff for Ina's BD, what was up with that? JOPs at work?

>>24676079
no it's a weekend and too early in the morning

>>24675238
>indie vtuber scene is just leaning towards NijiEN
wait this cope sounds familiar... where have I heard this before..?
Oh wait
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>

>>24676079
None of the en gals have the moonrunes for totsumachi in their titles either. I'm certain that it affects the numbers a bit.

>>24675901
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING NIJINIGGERS THIS IS WHY YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A LAUGHINGSTOCK

>>24676014
Helmite I know you're /here/
How the fuck did Watame turn her fanbase into a cult?

>>24676014
the only one who changed timeslot is reimu. The rest of the girls are in their same timeslot, or like millie who in this week streamed in the morning and at night all days after she came back from her break

>>24676120
They've been pushing this shit forever to be honest. Ever since Lazulight. Its funny because its less true than ever, now that nijis have a huge box themselves they mostly just spam collabs with themselves, though they're still doing some with outsiders.

>>24676120
It's called "blatant trolling"

Why this is even an option? I don't get it

>>24676212
So you get to choose if you don't want to be a member, but the streamers can't choose if people get to gift memberships? What the fuck kind of ass backwards thinking is this?

>>24676212
some people might not want to be put on the spot like that - I know I'd like to thank someone when I get a gift sub but that'd just contribute to the spam

>>24676236
yes they can, the option got added in yesterday, after the system has been rolled out for more than half a day

>>24676212
probably the publicly visible and shared part

>>24676236
>but the streamers can't choose if people get to gift memberships?
but they can

>>24676248
>Don't roll out an essential part of a feature until after the feature is live
Man, I wish my workplace was that lenient.>>24676250

>>24676196
> they're still doing some with outsiders
...Huh, that's a number I'm interested in now.
Other than Shoto or Mika, who else have they collabed with outside NijiEN?

>>24676120
>>24676196
I'm not even sure why they continue pushing this narrative, it's like claiming that the United states is ruled by a fifty foot tall giant walking cactus. Not only is it easily disprovable by simple observation, it also makes you look genuinely unhinged.

>>24676275
Selen had a few back to back OW2 collabs just last week, I think. Lots of randoms including fucking darksydephil lmao

>>24675901
Pretty sure this is just a reddit trolling tactic, I got the same message a couple weeks ago.

>>24676212
>>24676246
>>24676250
So, does that mean we don't have the correct numbers on membership... Again

>>24676304
It's obviously a troll, yeah. And it's hilarious. Had a good laugh before sharing it here

>>24676293
Dunno. Can't even blame this one on the chinks, this is classic /vt/ nijinigger shit, from day 1 the entire branch existed.

>>24676293
It's called "completely obvious bait that people in here choose to bite because it contributes to their narrative"

>>24676293
My personal rrat is that they saw how easily rrats about nijisanji spread around here and thought they could do the same with hololive by just repeating it often enough and samefagging, because they legitimately don't understand how humans work and think that if something gets repeated often enough people will start believing it to be true

lol at the holobronies pretending to know about indies to cope

>>24676347
>Propaganda
like where they are

>>24676293
>>24674612(me)
Its not the vtubers themselves but mostly their most vocal tribalfagging fans from my experience

>>24676378
protip when you're called out, acting smug and throwing insults around is not going to make anyone more likely to believe whatever you're peddling

>>24676378
https://www.wikihow.com/Cope-when-Your-Favorite-Sports-Team-Loses

>>24676426
>>24676433
cope

>>24676440
What about the issue between Banderas and Rine?

>>24676446
cope

>>24676325
> pretending to be retarded
doesn't work when you're spamming the thread with retarded cope though.

>>24676446
seethe

>>24676440
stay triggered

>>24676454
>>24676460
Selen actually tweeted in her roommates account about how someone (Nina) is a huge slut

>>24676378
Bait but Holobronies in /number/ are more knowledgeable about the indies scene than every other thread (asie the Indie threads)and more knowledgeable about NijiJP than the NijiEN thread

>>24676303
ahhh yeah I saw that. She seems to be becoming the Towa of NijiEN, focussing more on outside collabs while having a small clique of inner friends.

>>24676459
Oh, like you’re doing now?

>>24676465
just because you look at numbers doesn't mean you know shit tard