/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining.

>>24659415
https://youtu.be/bZghtnL3y3k?t=6184
Today I will remind them...

>>24658695
it is, but people being people, the monkeys are going to figuratively, and quite possibly literally, smear shit all over it unless they have a mod there 24/7. Love the concept though and hope there's room to expand the world with any new art she creates. Truly she's a talent.

>takofags sucking each other off right now
You will get mogged later today, and I can't wait to laugh at your face when your boring whorshi doesn't even get podium today kek

>>24659629
That's not quite how VR chat worlds work, you can have your own local copy and just hang

what delivery will get fujo's worm fund today?

Yikes, this is embarrassing, not even Luxkem stoops that low for content

It is pretty impressive that Ina managed to hit her peak right at the end.

>>24659824

>>24659824

Look at this beautiful stable Tako graph.
Nothing better after going mountain viewing all day.

>>24659889
STABLE OCTOPUS DESTINATION

>>24659923
Numbers are numbers, cope all you want, that fact will never change

>>24659884

>>24659791
Hey man

Very embarrassing to see nijifags malding that they will never get such kino from their oshis.

>>24659955

>>24659824

>>24660002

>Lazulight 1 Year Anniversary Stream: 40K without botting
>Ina's Birthday Stream: 30K with botting
I don't feel so good Holobros...

>>24659993

>>24659993
>Numbers are numbers
Those numbers are highly volatile and artificial in the long run

>>24660044
unmoving like a rock

>>24659824
Indeed. They botted it last minute out of panic.

>>24660002
The might honestly be the greatest picture ever made here. Whether or not the graphs indicate anything that's factual, just the way it's presented is nothing short of spectacular

>>24659993
At least you're conceding that the manwhores' numbers are fake.

And this is why they are at the top

>>24659884
>>24659824
>>24660002

>>24660060
>>24660129

>>24660060
>>Lazulight 1 Year Anniversary Stream: 40K without botting
What...? Is that total views?

>139k views at the end of the stream
Holy shit, just how many people tuned in to watch?

>>24660084
>>24660100
>numberfags acting like numbers don't matter
/hlgg/ is right around the corner globalfags, or just go suck each other off in the shitty Ina general

>>24660039
The shitposting is hilarious since it's basically justifying having shitty merch and wanting one's oshi to not care for them.

>>24660060
>Ina's birthday already has more views than LL's 5 day old stream

NIJIKEKS DONT LOOK

>>24660206

Should shop the Nijilogo to be Bob Ross's afro.

>>24660206
Anon artificial volatile numbers means a highly unstable median and a possible crash in the long term.

>bragging over a last minute botting
>10K under Lazulight anniv stream and well below NijiEN offcollab
I thought Holoshit was supposed to be top dog, kek. Guess they never were kek

thank you Ame for the anti-shitpost image. I see it getting heavy use

>>24659993
Hey at least you admitted nijien’s numbers are botted.

>>24660039
Want to brag about kino? Do it outside of the place where numbers triumph all, I thought quality doesn't matter as long as big numbers were on the screen
How low have you fallen holofags? This is just embarrassing

36 people attended Bae's. It's still the record

>>24660060
>40k
?

>>24660246
Hololive uses VOD bots, please understand.

>>24660266
Meant for >>24660187.

>>24642702
>>24642702
>>24642702
WHAT THE FUCK?

Is there a way to redirect people to one of your vods? it was a good chance to bring numbers to her new cover but she didn't even mentioned in the end

>spamming/flooding

>>24660282

>>24660205
NijiEN offcollab got close to 200K at stream end, stay coping Takobrony

>>24660305
>putting words into my mouth
Keep trying holofag, maybe some day your headcanon will come true

>>24659659
>>24659762
next time just make one of the mountains the op

>>24660310

144k right after the stream ended, what are we expecting this ends up as?

Reminder that HoloEN will have a panel at a convention with 55k visitors during the weekend while NijiEN had one at a con with 700 visitors.

Do Holobronies not know what VODbotting is?

The fuck is the last minute botting cope this shitposting is talking about? The stream has been one of the most stable ones yet we have fucking eyes.

>>24660426
Cope, seethe and dilate.

>>24660205
Kinda meh for a 4 hour stream with 25k+ CCV

>>24660431
400k

>>24660436
Good. 700 Chads vs. 55K weeb cringelords. Also still more popular in Japan and China.

>>24660060
>>24660282
Nijiniggers are now lying about numbers. Tako broke them.

>>24660354
>>24660444
>>24660474

>>24660452
>buy bots right at the end before ending the stream so that Susan doesn't catch them
A tale as old as time holofags.

Ramy got the funnel! Gen5 kizuna LOVE!

>>24660569

Lamy 16k get, gen 5 schizo how we feeling?

So the baiting has now resorted to denying the reality of events that happened MINUTES ago now.

>>24660039
>VRChat
>Kino

>>24660520

btw which stream is lazulight anniversary stream, i wanna check my self

>>24660398
Don’t use your mouth when typing lmao.
Use your head as well when you’re at it

>>24660569
Post the graphs motherfucker

>>24660452
>wasn't here for the time when bots were revealed bought by Cover to manufacture VODs back in December/January
Stage 1: Denial

>>24660627
That was the same thing with gura last time and they will try to use viewfarms and bots again

>>24660345
I don’t even think she needs to. Ina’s cover is doing so well and the speed of it is just blistering right now. 322k in a day with the growth is getting is like, hella fast for Ina too

>>24660650
goddamn, an actual Nijinigger

>>24660627
What reality are we denying exactly? The same way holofags are allowed to have schizo rrats on their heads, then so are we.
The fact that some retards thought that there wa a delay in "verification" should show you that holofags should not be listened to when it comes to numbers, they'll do anything to cope with their recline

Why are nijiniggers like this you probably won't even lose cripple gold. Seriously win or lose the spamming here is ridiculous from nijis

>>24660650
Kek

>>24660650
where did you find a pic of my gf

>>24660060
https://vrabi.net/video/BKlrVmYok-k
https://vrabi.net/video/_8K-M782Xzw
https://vrabi.net/video/L2sGVsTbpek

>>24660620
I want to kill myself. STAP THIS PURISU!

>>24660664
The one with 40k CCV obviously

>>24660726

>>24660627
Are these even baits at this point, i'm pretty sure his mind has broken after so many hours of pretending to be retarded

>>24660726
Anon how does the verification, something we can observe in many many streams, help cope with recline? We literally saw it happen. Please, explain to me how exactly it was being used to cope with low numbers and not with the fact that the stream kept inclining after buff holos called in?

>>24660683
Hope you got evidence motherfucker I'll start

>>24420454
>>24420333
>>24421203
>>24423909
>>24424311
>>24424521
>>24424746
>>24426241
>>24427484
>>24427579
>>24427464
>>18807073
>>18806479
>>18806343
>>18806366
>>18806479
>>18809951
>>18809840
>>24660569
>>24660354
>>24660444
>>24660474
>>24659824
>>24659993
>>24660060
>>24660683
Remember these posts whenever nijiniggers start complaining about getting unfairly targetted

Victim card pull timeloop.

>>24660726
Based Based Based
The VODbots are real and Holofags deny them so vociferously. Wonder why.

>>24660717
Except Imelda Marcos

>>24660664
the highest was 11k
>>24660749

>>24660742
>crippled gold
Remind me when was the last time holoEN won gold from a non birthday event faggot?
Well win actual gold today too

Nijikeks getting uppity here because they’ve never seen a stream incline past the 20 minute mark KEK

>>24660829
Always is

>>24660838

>>24660901
Like 5 weeks ago.

>>24660759
if you don't mind can you give me the link.

>samefagging retard spamming shit images on cool down
Yes, keep seething please

>>24660937
Never seen it, sorry

>>24660932
That's a weird way to write 5 months ago faggot

>sub 40IQ philippino hours
any meaningful discussion is now rendered void. night bros

>fujos just literally mirroring posts against them like chinks
yeah, I'm pretty sure its time I stopped browsing this shithole (which is probably their goal, someone who doesn't look into luxiem). Chink spam works

>>24660830
No

Lamy actually going pretty fast for a endurance zatsudan

>holofags start talking shit about the graphs and how nijis are botted
>"W-WE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING! THEY STARTED IT BY THEMSELVES!"
Actual children, you have to be 18 to post here holofags

>>24661008
>>24660901
So you prefer insults and make the thread deleted, that won't happen zhang

>>24660830
Stop trying to shit up the thread further nijinigger.

Benevolent or leeching with money?

>>24661058
>any meaningful discussion
The only "meaningful" discussion you faggots have is having a circle jerk about how amazing these kiddy numbers are.

>>24660937
there's 3.
8k for Pomu
https://vrabi.net/video/_8K-M782Xzw
11k for Elira
https://vrabi.net/video/L2sGVsTbpek
7k for Finana
https://vrabi.net/video/BKlrVmYok-k

>>24661165
>>24661095
nijiseethe

>>24661106
Isn't her zatsu conditioned based on what sub goals are reached?

this is what happens when you let nijiniggers feel comfortable in this thread

/vt/ Nijiniggers are no different than YB pfps on Twitter. Fester like fleas and are impossible to bring down, even when evidence is against them. This is coming from a Nijifag myself. EN was a mistake.

>>24661123
>make the thread deleted
Go back SEAnig

>>24661186
the 40k one?

>>24661242
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>24661106
Should take around 2 or 3 hours at the current rate

Did anyone else stop watching Hololive because their numbers are not what they used to be? I wanted to catch up with some of my old JP favorites but the numbers make me lose motivation every time. I'm serious btw.

>>24661233
No one is telling holofags to act like they own the thread and turn it into a general circle jerk for midget numbers like this.
They want to do that, go to where people care.

>>24661302
which one? name it

>>24661093
They are even changing old ccv numbers just to try and 'win' now

>>24661112
>>24661049
You said birthday non event and you didn't said concert zhang. Also don't talk about events we you manwhoree Spams events like retards with mental disorder of attention

>>24661168
What are the chances Ollie gifted this to Kobo as a way to tell people she doesn’t hate her despite the rrats after her membership leak?

>>24661229
SEAniggers*

>>24661302
Unironically kill yourself

>>24661302
stop lying
>>24661319
fucking leave already you fucking baby

>>24661168
why the chair looks like it hasn't been cleaned for years wtf is ollie this gross af

>>24661261
That's special one on pornhub where Luxiem gangbang them to celebrate.

>>24661319
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro
remember, never let nijiniggers feel comfortable in the thread.

what a shitty start

>>24661371
>gifted
>looks dirty af
fat 0

>>24661302
Grass

Begone, unenlightenedchamas.
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>>24661339
Just because your shitty ENs csnr get enough subs to celebrate milestones, doesn't mean that we can't.
>only 10k for ame in the last 30 days
Fucking KEK

>>24661487
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>24661487
Truly small dog syndrome

>>24661487
Reminder that Vox actually failed his sub endurance stream

>>24661339
Which fucking stream are you talking about? I don't remember the last time an EN won the actual gold except whori's garbage 3D stream

God this thread's gonna be so awful when Mysta goes live.

>>24661168
shit, this not a second handed this is garbage from dumpster. the dirt from ollie's sweat is still stuck. yuck

>>24661551
remember nijiniggers think small dog syndrome is something holofags taught up to insult them rather than an accurate description of their behaviour

>>24661487
I like how you said this as Kobo is about to overtake fucking Mysta in a few days.

>>24661575
Kek are even seeing whats happening now?, its bound to get even worse

>>24661519
>>24661551
>>24661564
Cope, my point stands as a factual truth.

>>24661568
>>24661610
>>24661622
## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

And when all else fails...
> #45 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

>>24661621
>>24661575
I told you not to accomodate nijiniggers
I told you but did you listen? No, it's always "fuck off shitposter" this and "lets be fair" that

STATUS?

I personally will stop shitposting right now, but this is what you get for talking shit about okayu faggots
Do it again and you won't have a nice thread for days.

>jwu
>check vrabi
>nijiEN mogged hard by holoID
BHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA

Are the people in this thread just really bored or do they actually think the people here LARPing as Niji fans are serious?

>>24661575
this thread was suprising not as awful as i expected today so far but its been nose diving as China and SEA wakes up

This is what happens when you let nijiniggers feel comfortable in the thread.
I hope you've learnt your lesson and stopped accomodating them

>>24661622
Bitch you moved the fucking goal post when we pointed to a non-birthday stream gold you don't even have an amputated leg stump to stand on.

>>24661694
Okayu is a mid tier holo alongside Korone.

>>24661716
why are you surprised than nijiniggers lie?

LEECHING NIJIBEGGAR

Ramy 21k!

>>24661704
> there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad

>>24661688
third world?

>>24661694
imagine thinking someone would actually say this, even more a fucking onigirya, you fucking dumbass

>>24661716
I literally told you to give me the mom birthday stream you're talking about and you're just shitting yourself, I didn't change anything.
What is the EN stream that won overall gold 5 weeks ago faggot?

>>24661575
You mean, holobronies tears?

>>24661704
I would prefer there to be no ironic shitposting because I still have to scroll past it to get to normal replies.

>>24661704
i say both Larpers are the obvious one while the ignorants are the serious niji fans, not to mention the samefagger who works hard

>>24661806
>>24661810
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>24661810

>>24661798
>all fans are just one single hive mind
Kill yourself
>>24661751
Why don't you compare your shitty tako's number to okayu's last totsu inafag?

>>24661417
damn i can't check it if on pornhub. my mom block that site. she said I already have her so no need for that site and my mom is Ookami Mio btw

>>24661704
yeah, larpers, whatever you say bro
even if that were the case, ironic shitposting is still shitposting, and honestly that would just make them worse

Not joking, but isn't NijiEN solo stream kinda underwhelming in viewership?
Like, I get the whole point of NijiEN is the constant collab and chemistry, but why don't the viewers who watch collabs watch solo streams at all?

>>24661704
The mind of a holofag in denial is truly a sight to behold, can't help but make me chuckle

So do you still think that Nijiniggers have a place in numbers?

>>24661901
And the came after ina stream emded

>>24661889
damn, are you my brother from different father ?

>>24661710
So whats the solution then, removing them from the thread wont work
These roaches will just keep coming back

>>24661779
Yeah, pretty much? It's incredibly easy to make niji-bait and I don't know if it's language barrier, age, or plain stupidity, but you always bite it. How many times can you see people say shit like "Hololive is literally dying in the west and Nijisanji are getting better numbers, prepare to get mogged takonigger, looks like Mysta is taking today's EN gold" and think they're completely 100% serious?

With each generation that passes, Gura gets mogged by more and more childlike holos...

>>24661884
why are you shitting up the thread, no one believes you when you say shit like this

>>24661688
MOGGING 4/5 LUXIEM

>>24661951

>>24659923
That reminds me, did that thread end up getting deleted?

>>24661934
Your tako is a 5k holo if it wasn't for FTOM streams
Imagine barley breaking 10k on a buff game like elden ring in a solo slot that you indoctrinated your fans into
One of the saddest shit I've seen in a while
>MUH CULL
Cope

>>24662016
Nah it was something about against seafans

>>24661229
>>24661436
>>24661229
>>24661672
>>24661710
Is this a bot or something.
Genuimely starting to think it is.

>>24662016
No, it got archived
there's a new one though
>>24661092

>>24661704
there are no actual Niji fans here. Some retard last knight even thought Fuwa, Toko and Reid was part of Holo. The absolute state of seaniggers I tell you. Ask them to post membership if you want to take these guys seriously

>>24661984

>>24661688
hunting luxiem

>>24662063
Nice try nijinigger, but no.

>IRYS KARAOKE
EZ 14K ENBROS

>>24661987
I'm legitimately doing it because you fags talked shit about okayu. I don't care whether you believe me or not but this is just the truth

>>24662046

>>24662073
There are clearly quite a few NijiEN male fans here, like it or not

Run faster Nina

>>24662016
the reddit one? it's still there
https://old.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/utvomf/nijisanji_off_collab

>>24662046
LMAOOOOOOOOO

>>24662110
so what you're saying is that we should shit on okayu?

>>24662110
unless you can grudgepost it you're fucking lying, because no one sounds this fucking insane and expects to be taken seriously
just stop shitting up the thread

>>24662046
There are literally people in this thread who think this is a serious post.

>fags think holo VS holo isn't a thing when it's filling hlgg to the brim
I don't understand why you fags are in denial, I'm much more happy seeing kobo mogging the ENs than nijis because why would I care about my oshi fighting fodders when the real show is when she fights axrua streamers?

In 1989 Beijing's Tiananmen Square became the focus for large-scale protests, which were crushed by China's Communist rulers.

The events produced one of the most iconic photos of the 20th Century - a lone protester standing in front of a line of army tanks.

The events remain a highly sensitive topic in China and one of the few remaining public memorials in Hong Kong has now been removed.

What led up to the events?
In the 1980s, China was going through huge changes.

The ruling Communist Party began to allow some private companies and foreign investment.

Leader Deng Xiaoping hoped to boost the economy and raise living standards.

However, the move brought with it corruption, while at the same time raising hopes for greater political openness.

The Communist Party was divided between those urging more rapid change and hardliners wanting to maintain strict state control.

In the mid-1980s, student-led protests started.

Those taking part included people who had lived abroad and been exposed to new ideas and higher standards of living.

How did the protests grow?
In spring 1989, the protests grew, with demands for greater political freedom.

Protesters were spurred on by the death of a leading politician, Hu Yaobang, who had overseen some of the economic and political changes.

He had been pushed out of a top position in the party by political opponents two years earlier.

Tens of thousands gathered on the day of Hu's funeral, in April, calling for greater freedom of speech and less censorship.

In the following weeks, protesters gathered in Tiananmen Square, with numbers estimated to be up to one million at their largest.

The square is one of Beijing's most famous landmarks.

What was the government's response?
At first, the government took no direct action against the protesters.

Party officials disagreed on how to respond, some backing concessions, others wanting to take a harder line.

The hardliners won the debate, and in the last two weeks of May, martial law was declared in Beijing.

On 3 to 4 June, troops began to move towards Tiananmen Square, opening fire, crushing and arresting protesters to regain control of the area.

China's great act of 'forgettance'
The image that China forgot
On the run after Tiananmen Square
Who was Tank Man?
On 5 June, a man faced down a line of tanks heading away from the square.

He was carrying two shopping bags and was filmed walking to block the tanks from moving past.

"Tank Man" in Beijing
He was pulled away by two men.

It's not known what happened to him but he's become the defining image of the protests.

How many people died in the protests?
No-one knows for sure how many people were killed.

At the end of June 1989, the Chinese government said 200 civilians and several dozen security personnel had died.

Other estimates have ranged from hundreds to many thousands.

In 2017, newly released UK documents revealed that a diplomatic cable from then British Ambassador to China, Sir Alan Donald, had said that 10,000 had died.

Do people in China know what happened?
Discussion of the events that took place in Tiananmen Square is highly sensitive in China.

Tiananmen Square now - full of tourists and surveillance cameras
Posts relating to the massacres are regularly removed from the internet, tightly controlled by the government.

So, for a younger generation who didn't live through the protests, there is little awareness about what happened.

>>24662046
I told you about what happens when you let nijiniggers live in this thread anon

>>24661934
their viewership is fine most of the time honestly insane for Luxiem even, the threads just on the teet of high end JP numbers that are absolutely insane for streamers in general (sure its not xqc and co tier but very few are). The part that bugs people about NijiENs success here is inexplicable graphs that dont follow the norms of any other branches graphs, from peaking at 19k 20 minutes into a 2 hour recline like the recent Uno collab, Voxs karaoke blasting up and down 10k viewers over several minutes a few times in a 40 minute stream, or the most egregious examples being the insane spike/plateaus from a few of this months offcollab streams.

RAMY 1M SUBS UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CAM ON PORKA AND NENETI

>>24662209
I warned you about them nijiniggers bro

>>24662209

>>24662098
Another botlike reply. Interesting.

>>24662179
Weren't we talking about "nijiniggers" denying reality when it happened a couple of minutes ago? Just go back to when you faggot started calling my okayu a debuff, you deserve every last bit of shit flung at you.
>>24662163
I'm more than happy to keep shitting up the thread, ban evading is the easiest thing on this garbage site anyways

>>24662279
anon if you manage to find a way to algorithmically identify nijinigger posts, please tell me because I'd love to have it

>>24662159
when you go to a brothel, and the whore you ordered is playing cards with other, will you stay?

>>24662209
Mogging nijis is better, because they actually felt humiliated getting mogged by IDs

>>24662324
Okayu is a debuff cat, that is true

>>24662346
Don't really care about bug feelings, I enjoy seeing the seethe from ENfags more.

>>24662255
i loved the one with twisting nipple

>>24662346
KEK
WHEN WILL NIJISANJI ID MOGGING HOLO JP / HOLO EN???????????????????????

>>24662324
you're an attention whore
kill yourself

Anons, I think Lamy is taking gold today...
She's already going fast enough and it's going to do a debut watchalong when she reaches 998k. She's going to accelerate even harder than Riku those last 2k and a lot of people will join for the react content

>>24662420
Keep seething, faggot

>>24662324
hey if you want us to turn Okayu into a numbers laughing stock, feel free.

>>24662408
do your rep, there is no Niji ID

what the fuck lamy passed 996k already ? that's fast as fuck for an endurance

where are you nijisis?

>>24662331
I'm just noticing a botlike behavior by repeating words like "not letting them feel comfortable" or "not to accomodate them." Seems to simulate a low IQ poster with a pretty limited vocabulary.

>>24662457
And if you want to have a resident schizo to keep this garbage thread in actual sewage, then feel free.

>>24662365
>>24662457
he's obviously not an okayu fan you dumbasses, no one that actually cares about her would paint a target on her back like this

>>24662398
shitting on bugs felt better, because it's easier to hurt them

>>24662479
Not really, she was at 994k and its been an hour

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1527543730009321472
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1527543730009321472
A NEW DAY A NEW YAB

>>24662519
yeah because we don't have resident schizos here already. I don't think you know where you are posting on
Okayu is a fat cat who's going to have a heart attack soon btw

>>24662434
I really doubt it but you already made me rock hard just thinking about horny posting Lamy

>>24662488
>2 months later

>>24662558
Oh yes, nothing is more fun than stepping on garbage that isn't and will never be of competition to you.
Sorry anon but I'm more competitive, I want ky horse to race against another horse, not a roach

everyone should knows Okayu's Gachikoi is busy fapping with her mengen ASMR

>>24662679
you mean her simps paying for her onlyfans?

>>24662527
>>24662614
Everyone is pretty much sick and tired of you faggots anyway, you were already talking trash about her among other holos too so this won't change a thing for me, but for you, you'll have one more person to keep shitting up your thread.

>>24662596
Wish I knew what this was referring to.

>>24662638
>celebration
come back with game pls

>>24662742
come on, stop threatening to shit up the thread and shit up the thread already
okayu is a whore btw

>>24662742
>i am here to le troll
pathetic

>>24662679
I'm actually listening to it while smearing shit all over this trashy thread, her ASMR is just giving me more and more reason to not let you fags live this down

How's that Jew group doing numberwise?

>>24662761
BHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>24662704
no no can you read?
>Okayu's Gachikoi is busy fapping with her mengen ASMR
there is no simp or onlyfans word in there...

>>24662783
>>24662806
Keep the seethe coming losers.

>>24662811
come on, stop threatening to shit up the thread and shit up the thread already

>>24662761
you mean this one?
always losing.

>>24662866
come on, stop threatening to shit up the thread and shit up the thread already

>>24662408
NijiID already mogged HoloEN, though

>>24662811
btw which one do you hearing?? just curious

>>24662902
nice try NijiEN ft NijiID as a onahole

>>24662902
nijiID doesnt exist anymore though? that stream was held by Nijisanji

>>24662811
>>24662866
which one of your parents is the one that didn't give you attention as a kid

>>24662902
>need 4 (four) males to beat a holoEN
yikes.

>>24662822
staying around 80-120 ccv

>>24662845
>Outdated
Try looking at today

>>24662968
>actual Twitter replies
The absolute state

>>24663010
ah, i see it's not the first time you get asked that, you should probably wonder why

>EN can't wait against the niji Boys so we'll start using IDs now
Oh man, so holofags are actually accepting the fact that they've reclined? I guess delusion has its limit anyways, if a new EN starts mogging ID again, better trust they'll switch again as easy as turning on a light

>>24662999
still with debut buff but seems better than versen

>>24662902
OHNONONONONONO

>>24662999
So basically another Prism/Kawaii/Phase then. Not bad if they can keep it up.

>>24662434
Today's gold is Mysta

>>24662761
>full collab
>still lose

>>24663105
>face of vtubing
>getting humiliated by an IDs

>>24663105
>/#/ is one person

>>24661371
That's make me think about what else she already talked in her membership, is there any HoloID member that she mentioned before? I slightly remember that rrat about she being bi just to be accepted by reina but it ended up ruin their relationship

Ludwig poll, seems like a normal amount

>>24663121
what's insane about that jew group is they do not have days off in their schedules. they stream everyday. shit's crazy

>>24663373
so the average 2view?

>>24663373
even on sabath?
what kind of non-kosher group is this?

>>24663348
Eh, he's the normalest of normalfags, unlike the terminally online retards that like to pretend they're normalfags.

>>24663271
Let's be real, you either genuinely believe this whole holo always wins cope or you're just using this as another way to cope with the fact that the niji males are more popular and successful than your garbage EN whores.
Either way it's just pure cope.
I can't wait to see the new EN3 Gen mogging ID, you fags will start shitting on kobo again and once the debut buff for said ENs melts away you'll start begging to use kobo as a coping mechanism to try and one up nijiniggers
It will exactly happen like this.

>>24661762
Like I said, monkey's shitting everywhere to ruin art.

So, when is the HoloEN panel at Anime Central taking place?

>>24663373
i appreciate the hustle. although jew is still jew.
hope they get a niche and loyal audience.

>>24663438
>>24663401
even on sabath

>>24663438
One of the girls keeps waiting rooms for an entire week worth of streams
They're actually doing pretty decent though only one of them gets consistently 100+ ccv, given she's the only one who's taking this seriously and does seem to have some background

>>24663530
that's how akioair does theirs too. they put up all the frames when schedule comes out. well at least athy does. don't really follow the rest.

>>24663514
I love this girl so much, she's so entertaining to watch
I watch her whenever I can personally and usually she streams right after haachama so it's nice fun

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000436.000030865.html
wtf is this

>>24663454
ENs mogging IDs is normal tho
IDs mogging nijinigger meanwhile

>>24662999
>>24663107
>>24663121
>>24663373
at this point the new corpo vtuber audience is just bored fans from big corpo, they need do some impactful thing to get more attention

>>24663514
Heresy, Friday evening to Saturday evening there should be NO STREAMING.

>>24663600
NTA but this is one of the saddest posts I've seen in this thread, damn this inferiority complex is something else.

>>24663599
the next 3view if they're lucky.

>>24663600
Stop it anon, you are hurting their fragile feelings

>>24663599
New niji? My elevenese is shit, what's her theme?

>>24663007
Kiara and Reine beating 3 luxiem, mika and nina is funny to me.

>>24663599
>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000436.000030865.html
Looks like another transfer? Wtf is this shit man? Why is anycolor treating it like football.

>>24663637
You can check their thread, they usually have 100 ips there so if even half of them watch streams that's pretty good

>>24663514
are the talents actually jewish and speaks hebrew?

>>24663454
ID is originally an underdog, anon. it was their fate to be beaten to the ground just because they had weak numbers.
even if in the future holoEN3 is 100% destroying ID3 numbers, can't be fucking helped, underdog with small branch.
but i doubt with the new niji wave though. i bet it will be just as bad as nocdyx does kek.

>>24663721
I thought people said the Nina stream would get 12k, what happened?

>>24663725
>transfer
From where? VTA? Nobody graduated from there, right?

NoriPro had another graduation.
https://twitter.com/noriopro/status/1527846643269349377?s=20&t=U6pO_uIqosVpT4QtZ0y1Fg

>>24663721
>this Kiara stream doesn't count as an event but holofags shat themselves begging to count the males collab earlier as an event
Its just sad at this point holobronies

>>24663815
i thought so too, nijisis was saying it'd be >EN gold ?!

>>24663599
May 24 8pm

>>24663514
>missing children
SHUT IT DOWN

>>24663725
Is this >>24663820?

>>24663599
Debut merch? Sasuga Nijisanji.

>>24663872
Gold?

>>24663599
>debut fucking merch
jesas

>>24663900
didn't they do that for redonkulous too?

>>24663599
ACCELERATE
when was the last niji debut anyways

>>24663768
Yes they're actual Israeli women and they speak mostly Jewish with some eigo here and there, kattarina in the picture above also speaks Russian and a bit of Japanese, and understands Arabic

>>24663875
?

>>24663721
damn, that's sad

>>24663987
the 3 vta girls february

>>24663995
>Hebrew, Russian, Japanese, English, Arabic
so she's literally Mossad?

>>24663995
>kattarina
the only one worth saving

>>24663995
mossadchama.... I can't believe haachama's sister is this dangerous

>>24663983
I'll be honest. I only cared about Holofes that weekend so I have no idea about Redonculous.

>>24663599
ACCELERATE

>>24663983
Council had the tapestry too

>>24664102
Anon, I think the qt3.14 and not!Hoshikawa were basically confirmed mossad during their debuts.

>>24664138
Yeah but we are talking about nijisanji

>>24663995
She's unironically the best one and the only one that's really worth it, I really hope she can build up an audience and then try moving on to another big corpo, she's very knowledgeable of chuubas and haachama in particular since she's her sister so I wonder if she'll try to shoot for hololive somehow

>>24663995
could she be... the actual russian princess in exile?

>>24663599
ACCELER... wait only one? what's the deal

>>24664163
I thought the topic was debut merch.

What is this shit? draft picks and trading players like my NFL games lmao. Can Cover buy Hoshikawa please

>>24663599
>Hyakumantenbara Salome
Shalom

>>24663721
Ah so this is why nijidogs kept yapping, to distract from this fact

Even Ludwig is making fun of YouTube.

>>24664276
YES YES YES YES GIVE US THE SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXX

>>24663599
wait, what happened to the academy thing?

>>24664415
>chumbud
>ludbud

>>24664457
you forgot
>rosebud

>>24663872
What is the point of the silhouette lmao

>>24664488
I want her to step on me and call me a disgusting commoner

>>24664484
Chinafied?

>>24663919
>nijifemale
>gold
lmao

Irys 11k

>>24664488
who's the chara designer ? looks pretty good

>>24664276
... anon, this is how nijisanji does merchandise for years
>>24663725
>>24663817
It's not VTA, they didn't share anything unlike with VTA. Seems like a solo debut strategy like VSPO or Irys. Maybe they got someone from another agency and are debuting her solo?

Wild haachama ramy totsu, 30k incoming?

>>24664669
>they got someone from another agency and are debuting her solo?
Noripro just announced a graduation so...

So how many privated streams from yesterday is back already?

I don’t mind seeing Lamy at 27k. I want people to celebrate her 1M coming up, but everytime I see something like this I get increasingly more frustrated at how JOPs seemingly disappear when EN events happen. Like, we just saw Ina spend 2+ hours at 29k and it took until the very end to break 30k, and then she ends and Lamy’s here steadily climbing up to it with ease. Like come on man…

>>24664488
>サロメ
>Salome
>Satu Lobang Rame-Rame (Indonneisan)
>TL: One Hole for Many
>Slut
currently being talked in the ID vtuber group

>>24664793
yeah Salome is slang for slut in Indonesian

>>24664793
kek what the fuck

>>24664779
Why are you blaming JOPs instead of fairweather EN fans...?

>>24664753
All the jp is restored, en not yet

>>24664793
lel
>One Hole for Many
ONE FOR ALL

>>24664779
You dont sound like a holofag

>>24664832
>Fairweather fans
>For the most consistent EN ever
>Who had 800 messages/min for practically all of the 4 hours
Anon wtf

>>24664488
Her left wrist/hand looks absolutely fucked up.

Anime central.

>>24664779
EN fans are simply fickle, and they're the first ones to drop who they like at the sight of the new shiny thing
Which is why EOPs only watched asacoco and reddit review from coco but never really anything else, same with haachama, same with korone, same with fubuki... EOPs dropped them all when myth debuted, then when council debuted they were split as well... And so on and so forth, that's the EOP audience

>>24664978
Hololive strong.

>>24661302
Touch grass and take a break for a while from # thread

>>24664978
Coco acrylic stand sold out

>>24664978
god i wish my country got convention...

>>24664978
???? They had official merchs? Why the fuck are they not promoting it on twitter

>>24665002
t. fungus
lel, bugmaple got mad for the bugpasta

>>24665048
Bushiroad booth I'm guessing.

>>24664929
O...kay? What are you bitching about exactly?

>>24664978
bet, they make gen 3 stock is much more

>>24664978
Those the English versions of the WK holo cards?

>>24665103
yep, it's bushiroad's booth, see bandori

>>24663599
So is she from the VTA academy thing or...?

>>24665206
See >>24663820, she's probably a last-minute transfer.

>>24665103
But its hololive, might as well retweet if any. I was disappointed seeing another ugly ass tshirt

>>24664488
how the numbers is the latest girls?

>>24664978
Lovelive ain't got shit on hololive in the west.

>>24665230
There is no way she's transferring over to nijisanji like this, and even if she were the graduation would've been much further back, not literally three days out

Irys 12k

Irys is eternally stuck in the 10-13k range for her karaokes huh... damn

>>24665291
That's Bang Dream anon.

>>24665358
not bad for an archived

>>24665413
FlopRyS isn't a meme.

My fucking God. 4chan added hovering videos as ads in the catalog on phone, I want to kill myself

Sperm demon join ramy

>>24665462
Wtf you're right...

>>24665413
Considering this isn't unarchived it's actually pretty decent.

>>24664978
No ID and EN merch? Or is this a third party? Bae and Gura are actually there. All I've seen is that one shirt

>>24665503
she doesn't seem to change viewership even if it is unarchived, I've never seen her get over 15k

So Miko return today?

>>24665548
archived in the 10-13k range, unarchived in 12-16k range

>>24665541
This looks like they're just selling existing stock of 2nd fes merch and a bunch of booster boxes.

>>24665541
>Bae and Gura are actually there
they're the only two appearing at Anime Central

Reading the thread right now. Damn the $11 shit really let # lives rent free in that nijinigger's head.

>>24665557
Yes. If WWE, its doomed for everyone.

>>24665557
Her break is until 22nd, said she'll stream again starting monday

>>24665471
GO KOYO GO

>>24664779
Anon, if you were being serious, keep in mind that VTubers with mainly EN audience (HoloEN, most of NijiEN Female, small EN corpos, etc.) are culled pretty heavily. 29-30k for Ina might seem "low", but it's probably closer to 48-55k in actuality.
If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at Susan instead. JPnikkis didn't do anything wrong

>>24665621
That said, Ui has asked Migo to make a WWE character for her

>>24665657
wait, isn't she coming back tomorrow ? i'm pretty sure her community post said her announcement + comeback is on the 22nd ?

>24665777
is a falseflag, real holoEN folks aren't delusional like this. Thanks for your understanding

>>24665471
>13 streams ion 20 days
I though doog was gonna take it easy for the rest of her career.

>>24665791
Ui gold? Has it happened before?