/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

But why was the previous thread deleted?

>>2443386
love

Not enough EN people know about Melissa and it's a damn shame.

But also I'm worried what EN people will do when they find them.

>>2443386
>girl

>>2443386
>girl

Meli love!

>>2443386
What are their preferred pronouns?

>>2443386
Kill him.

>>2453945
Meli doesn't have any, so you can use whatever.

>>2453945
Nihonggo doesn't have pronouns, so none.

>>2454755
It's moreso that they don't really use gendered third-person pronouns like we do in English. Everything's just contextual instead.

>>2452692
EN fans are /pol/ rats who deserve nothing more than a shotgun slug to the face. I hope melissa keeps having comfy JOP streams.

>>2443386
>girl

Why aren't genderless vtubers more popular in the west? Even the most popular ones (mocca) aren't as popular as the japanese ones

Melissa is female you morons. Being genderless does not mean she is sexless, that is literally biologically impossible. She has a vagina, but you can treat her like a boy if that's what you're into. Stop mixing the two up.

>>2456411
Because it'll only cause a shitstorm when he/she acts not in accordance to her preferred gender.
Well, at least that's what I keep getting whenever I witness twitter trannies having a meltdown on the subject matter.

>>2443386
>nijisanji has a literal tranny tuber
Nijiniggers please I’m trying to like you

>>2456517
you don't even know what trans means do you?

>>2456456
Pronouns aren’t used to refer to someone’s sex. They’re used to refer to someone’s gender.

>>2456517
She's not a western tranny, which is a huge plus.
Her singing is GREAT too, you should try him/her out sometime.

>>2456566
There's ONE good western tranny who vtubes but I am keeping them to myself because their streams are comfy
I only know it because I was in their PSO2 guild like 6 years ago

She actually hopped into Roboco's stream once. Apparently she love Roboco's singing (crying) voice. It was a few months back so I don't remember what stream it was. But was definitely a talk stream.

Pronouns were a mistake.

>>2443386
Fuck is Enby such a retarded concept

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>>2456566
>noooo i’m not a girl even even though i have a vagina, i’m super special and unique and don’t fit into any categories
Nearly just as bad, you only give her a free pass because she’s a nip.

>treating 4chan's opinions on anything as remotely respectable or intelligent

>>2456545
Do you? Non-binary people are by definition trans.

>>2456788
Or maybe it's not bad in the first place, anon

>>2456805
Most people do not do that; most people lurk and don’t post unless they’re in a thread that is actually about their interests

>>2456788
Nah, I really just like her singing and the general comfiness of her streams.

>>2456842
I've never seen "non-binary" people say they are trans.

>>2456922
I have

>>2456842
>may

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>>2456937
Anyone who identifies beyond straight, bi, lesbian and gay are a pain in the ass to understand.
It's like there are subcategories the deeper you get.

This is why this fucking bullshit is a bad idea. Look at the state of this thread now. Fuck you faggots and go back to your tranny boards.

>>2456842
May also and by necessity are very different in meaning, anon. Your logic reps.

>>2443386
They is cute and they is valid!

>>2457042
the only people who care that much about this detail of Melissa are the people in this thread who don't even watch her and are brainwashed to screech about trannies any time something like this is brought up.

>>2456545
Yes. Someone who needed help and it's too late now.

>>2443386
She has pussy, and that's all that matters.

>>2443386
Kinda want to use my fairly popular twitter account to advertise her as the tranny vtuber since they're fairly popular.

>>2457159
You'd end up damning her in the long run.

>>2457159
JP trannies and Western trannies don't mix well...

I'm betting all of you just read the part on the vtuber wiki that says "genderless" and assume that's her entire personality and based your opinions on that and it shows.

>>2457159
You could just be open and professional about it? Hey check out this enby vchuuba! and leave it at that, maybe list things you like about them

Melissa is a great singer with a cute personality and less menhera than most woman even though she identifies as genderless, she's great.

Weird how the general Niji thread on 5ch when Meli got a new outfit had basically zero negativity other than "It's just not cute..."

Too bad the west mixes with this topic just like water and oil.

>>2457510
Yeah, Japanese people are mostly fine with trans people, surprisingly enough
Just like western people outside of 4chan

>>2457598
careful anon, this redpill might shatter the delicate rrats on the board.

>>2457598
It's a language affects thinking affects view of the world type of situation. A lot of Western languages use gendered pronouns, so their concept of gender is binary, while Eastern languages are moreso genderless and so allow acceptance of fluidity.

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Fuck trannies dayo!

>>2458559
Based dayo~

>>2458559
>I'll gladly live inside your head, but who in the FUCK pays my rent?

>>2458559
>Fuck trannies dayo!
Man, if only.

>>2458559
meds dayo

>>2458559
>Implying Pikamee isn't actually pretty okay with trans people

>>2458860
I recognize that bulge

Trannies need to stop fucking hiding out in no-name vtuber threads.

You're not welcome here, get the fuck out.

>>2458908
hrt and dilate dayo

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>>2458994
Getting real tired of these cishet bigots brigading trans spaces. We do have a discord, right girlbros?

>>2459089
You will never be a woman

>>2458978
Literally every trans person agrees that John Money is a hack and fucked up David Reimer’s life irreversibly

>>2459128
Good, so you understand there are only 2 sexes and that gender is a fabricated term created by a hack.

Why do Westerners continue to impose their binary gender worldview on the rest of us?

>>2459162
No, just that while John Money was wrong in some ways (that you can change someone else’s gender while raising them) he was right in others (gender as what you identify as exists, because if it didn’t then David Reimer wouldn’t fucking kill himself)

>>2459089
>girlbros

>>2443386
Can I have a fucking decent thread to talk about Melissa without every discussion revolting around the ningen reproductive structure for a minute?

I thought holobronies were cringe for liking idolshit but nijiniggers have an actual woke agenda in their talent pool what with actual troons, lesbians, gays, and bisexuals lmaooo. They would do very well overseas with this "progressive" bullshit but that'll never happen.

I miss her old design :(

>>2443386
>Not a communist
>Not obsessed with Identity politics
>Not forcing her roleplay on others
>Not forcing people to call her preferred pronouns
>Has never mentioned HRT on kids
>Good voice
>Straight roommate
She is alright in my books, great singer to boot.

>enby
>girl

so just enby i hope

>>2460567
Not on this board, unfortunately.

>>2460766
>Straight roommate
Really? Thought she's lesbo for sure.

>>2460875
Time to do your reps i guess.

>>2460875
The only lesbos in Nijisanji are Sukoya and Tomoe.

>>2455094
At first I thought that was excessive but with the way this thread went, maybe you have a point.

Man, it's been a long time since I've been to this imageboard. I'm not sure why I came back. I'll just go rave about Meli's singing in Nijisanji circles instead.

I miss xero

>>2456411
Because Europeans and their descendants are absolute apes who throw shitstorms when topics like this are brought up. I know a bunch of indietubers personally who just stream as cis women instead of streaming as Trans and Non-binary chuubas. I hope Melissa doesn't have to deal with any faggoty English speaking /pol/tards.

>>2461982
ywnbaw

>>2457598
Most people don't like trannies tho, not even trannies themselves like trannies.

>>2462038
I will never be a woman and you will never be funny.

>>2461982
Thank god she filters the EOP subhumans.

>>2462137
More like most people don't like trannies in the internet, especially western ones. Even moreso when they're attentionwhores.

>>2462244
deal, do your 41%reps.

>>2461982
Stop injecting your politics into Melissa. If you like being a political meatshield thats your issue, no reason to turn them into one.

>>2462352
Agreed, I don't really watch her but I've caught some of her streams occasionally and the ones that I did catch were pretty comfy but not necessarily my type of comfy.

>>2461982
>Europeans and their descendants
Americans*
All of this recent ideological hysteria and cultural imperialism on the internet stems specifically from you. Please learn to carry your own sins.

>>2462401
People like trannies irl, even less anon. Get out of your Portland bubble.

When's the next stream...

>>2462476
I didn't turn her into a political meatshield retard-kun >>2452766
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>>2460588
Did because the OP baited them into posting in this thread because all they have on their minds is tranny porn.

>>2443386
How does it feel knowing every time she streams it might be her last before she 41%s?

>>2462859
>Self-awareness 0

>>2456560
They are the same thing you dumb retard.

>>2443386
You sure this is a tranny/XY? >she has pipes
https://youtu.be/8CUTuw-xJgc

>>2456411
Mocca is a self admitted lonely horny guy, these other ones just haven’t accepted it

>>2443386
BESIDES the shitstorm going on in this thread, share your favorite covers of Melissa please.
or not, fuck am I gonna do with you.

>>2463178
This is the same OP who has been making Niji bait threads for the past couple weeks. He knew exactly what he was doing.

>>2463233
He's probably failing because I'm unironically tuning in.
But please confirm the penis. I like the voice.

>>2463078
Not a tranny, enby doesn't mean tranny. Female roommate, the enby thing is a character quirk.

>>2463178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VEzYA1C-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0CnOI5d1DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eQxRL5Lqgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StA3_Nc5dzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JU6I12H5WU

>>2463078
She's not really tranny, Meli isn't doing any procedures, she just doesn't identify with either male or female, a great singer, isn't menhera about the nby stuff unlike SJWs in the west and has a very cute personality.

>>2463273
He baits Holofags into posting in the threads. He had a pretty good Mito one last week that got like 300-400 replies and had a shitload of tribalfags arguing with each other.

>>2456411
The unfortunate truth is that in the anglosphere, any genderless or other non-conformist characters attract some of the most toxic creatures that exist in this world. If such a vtuber became popular over here, they would be crucified within days unless they turn into full-on woketards. Traa is a horrifying drug.

Melissa is honestly one of the best singers I've heard.

>>2461982
Really seems like the only answer. As someone who was thinking about making content as a 性別不詳 like Ryushen or Melissa it really does seem like the west is a total no-go. /pol/tards to the right, perfectionists to the left. If only NND hadn't basically died and gone to Youtube...

>>2464682
Time to do your Nihongo reps, anon...

>>2464497
Her, Rindou and Chima are my favorite Niji singers.

>>2464848
No love for Levi? She is up there too in my opinion

>>2466701
I'll check her out later then.

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>>2463148
Mocca reading this thread
https://twitter.com/moccaliebeskind/status/1381493878151331842

>>2467158
WTF!?!?

>>2457042
/vt/ has always been a tranny board

This thread pretty much sums up why I'm glad nijisanji isn't big in the west.
>>2460730
Her 3D is the original design.

I hate everyone that uses this board. The fact that you fuckers are so obsessed with trannies and shit to a point that you take some character detail that literally nobody that follows her even pays attention to really and argue about it for hundreds of posts is infuriating. The fact that you want to make it impossible to discuss some vtuber because of it is fucking annoying.

>>2467148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNh4Bq3xCak

I love her so much...

>>2467422
>90% of the comments in this thread have been purged.
Delusional

>>2468337
>one board on 4chan actually does its job and filters out /pol/tards who can't stay in their containment board
Sorry we aren't like /v/ where we let you derail threads and shit up the board, retard.

Why does she have those ugly glasses?

>>2468087
Just got home.
She's great! Time to sort through her vods.

>>2457510
Because western fanbase is hololi/v/e fanbase

>>2467158
Based

posting stream where they openly declared that they don't feel attachment to neither gender just to make polfags seeth
https://youtu.be/6pc6gi_AWTA

>>2469048
hey those glasses are pretty cute you know!

>>2471931
Don't you know it's just a character gimmick anon despite being something they have obviously thought about a ton?
It's very clearly a character gimmick, not something that's actually important to them because they talked about it in a real way
I'm being sarcastic of course, Ryushen could almost definitely be a character gimmick, but Melissa is clearly not really since they act like it's genuinely important to them

>>2471931
Please take your antidepressants, antipsychotics, estrogen, and dilate dayo

>>2472073
like a clockwork

after browsing this thread so far i am confident saying you Americans are fucked in the head and there is no saving for you cunts who go apeshit every time they remotely close to talk about gender and identity.
You cunts do not deserve good things, all you want are just fucking self-exhibition for some pointless crap. Just stay the fuck away from Meli

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Seethe on every level peko

>>2472705
you are damn right,the crap only exist in English speaking community pisses me off

Lotta truscums ITT

>>2463453
really good, i dont get the hate

>>2472744
Do your English and 41% reps, transthirdworld-chama

>>2471931
do troons seriously think only polfags hate them?

>>2471945
She looks like a blond harry potter

>>2471989
Ryushen is just a trap who won't reveal his/her gender to make it more interesting. Not explicitly enby unlike Melissa.

>>2473650
Yes, that’s what I was saying
Ryushen has it as a character gimmick
Melissa has it as part of their literal identity outside of Vtubing

>>2463453
My fav Niji VSinger after Chima.
I hope they both get 3D models soon so we can see them attending live events like Vtuberfes or Vcarnival.

>>2473731
Melissa(as well as Ibu and Furen) already have 3d models. They were showcasing it during that nijifes thing like 2 months ago.

>>2474326
What's taking so long to debut? Rigging?

>>2474326
Man, I wanna see the proper debut...

>>2474404
Can't say I didn't look into why. Probably just farther down on the queue list since there are other senpais waiting for their 3d debut.

>>2443386
trannyposters should be ashamed of themselves.

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>>2474463
Here's there 3d during that NijiFes thing. Unfortunately the actual stream that was on the official Niji channel is privated or deleted.

>>2474724
Damn, can't wait for her inevitable 3D debut in the future.

>>2456456
>but you can treat her like a boy if that's what you're into
Utter confusion. A man is male a woman is female. Stop forcing something to be something it isn't. A chuubas isn't real and can be whatever they want but you faggots want to extend this into the real world.

westerns so obsessed with this shit while the japanese seem utterly indifferent to it

>>2462758
Anywhere outside of a few major cities in Europe, CA, and America, people think trannies are oddities. Few actually hate trans people but they do see them as mentally ill, which is true.

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>>2473680
I don't know if I'd say Ryushen is -only- a gimmick. A stream (which is now archived) was clipped and they mention how they actually think about their gender a lot, but pretend not to think about it too much https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34492633

>>2475133
that's because they are, the stupid culture war just doesn't exist. T's still exist and they do put it in their twitter bio but they don't make it a part of their personality, and nobody makes shitting on them a part of their personality either. it's honestly really based

>>2475412
He/she was saying that being either gender changes the way you're treated by others, so he/she prefers not to disclose it as a result. It's different from Melssia because he/she does admit to having a gender, but won't disclose which one it is.

>>2459309
he killed himself because he had a mutilated dick

>>2476451
True but that's still a personal complex/decision rather than a character gimmick. For that I'd just think of Debi being genderless.

>>2477510
It's a gimmick in the sense that the character is an androgynous trap that can be interpreted as being either male or female. Whether Ryushen is like that too in real life is unknown.

>>2474724
Melissa's model looks neat ngl.

>>2472542
It's holofans because vtubers being virgin girls is very important to them

Did you guys not see Meli in 3D at NijiFes? She's adorable, she even jumps up and down like a little kid. Very high energy.

That being said, she switched to using ore for her personal pronoun, so take that as you may. Her second outfit is meant to be as androgynous as possible.

>>2472542
>you Americans are fucked in the head and there is no saving for you cunts who go apeshit every time they remotely close to talk about gender and identity.
It's literally just hololive fans, most them
are tourist who don't know shit about vtubing outside of their company, hell most them don't know shit about their company before 2020

>>2488317
what you said is true, but has nothing to do with trannyposting

>>2488758
I'm saying since hololive is so entry level most of the crossboarders who'd spend time trannyposting are also hololive fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YrdILsar4Y
japan has trans girls too

Chi chi chi chi oppai

>>2489015
Riinu's a trans boy, but yeah.

He got a 3D model a few months back so at this point I feel like he's basically a vtuber...

>>2456655
she's pretty close with Roboco, in the past 5 months Meli has shown up in Roboco's chat more than any actual holo has

>>2493780
>Roboco is grooming the enby to be her wife
Based robot

>>2489673
if he streamed wouldnt he gets loads of money

>>2498378
He has 1 million subs, after all