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>> No.24615172
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.24615208

1k posts jesas

>> No.24615221

i'm so tired of these people

>> No.24615244

>>24615208
like a 4th of them is one dude samfagging on multiple devices.

>> No.24615258

>>24615208
That one schizo was something else. She made 70% of the posts by herself.

>> No.24615265
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24615265

I have to say I cannot genuinely figure out of this is someone taking the piss or someone genuinely defending the merch thing.

It is a "technically correct" take
>Niji should prioritize the top sellers
but saying it out loud like that is poor form to say the least

>> No.24615266

Ah…
Peace without holokeks…

>> No.24615292

Luxiem >>>>>>> HoloEN

>> No.24615302

>>24615266
KILL YOURSELF

>> No.24615304

>>24615120
>This is everything I hoped for
Are you a niji liver?

>> No.24615305

Has anyone use the YT redirect/raid system since Ina-Bae?

>> No.24615307

>>24615265
Well, they have different culture than holo, what did you expect?

>> No.24615310

Keeping people's attention away from that godawful chart

>> No.24615322
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so what's your number predict?
streaming on her usually slot. min 20k.

>> No.24615344
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from the newest Luxiem drawing stream
beautiful innit?

>> No.24615354

>>24615304
Just bored.

>> No.24615356

Absolutely disappointing day for Holo today, completely lost the podium along with their claim to both the most popular English-speaking VTuber Group and the most popular JP Vtuber group all in the same day
How the hell could this happened???

>> No.24615362

>>24615322
around 25K, might be more with numberbuff guests

>> No.24615366

>>24615322
Already 900 people waiting, should be 30k if the rest of Myth shows up.

>> No.24615380

>>24615322
>Usual timeslot
>Rumored to be Off collab with Kronii
>Totsu
Should be 35-40k+

>> No.24615384

>>24615322
I wonder if a "reverse totsu" format like Sora (and Anya) did wouldn't work better for EN.
It would smooth things to have each girl pre arrange a slot and be called, and it would allow for Ina to tease the participants in the thumb as well

>> No.24615392

LOL Vox is streaming right now to 4.4k viewers what a joke he is

>> No.24615394

>>24615356
if it were that easy how does niji even exist

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shitty graph

>> No.24615416

>>24615356
>How the hell could this happened???
not many talents are streaming and the ones who are aren't doing anything special

>> No.24615419
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I'm just gonna leave this here

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>>24615400
What a beautiful duwang.

>> No.24615440

>>24615310
Literally not a single soul give a shit about chart patterns other than you and 10 other holobronies in the /#/ thread

>> No.24615444

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMQGa8NfCeo
Demon lord membership open.

>> No.24615461
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24615461

>Meanwhile, while nobody was paying attention
Sorry Moona, 10k is for grownups

>> No.24615491

>the faggot is still samefagging
fucking oxygen thief trying to drown out any meaningful discussion

>> No.24615497

>>24615265
They have like 200 streamers, it's not realistic to treat everyone equally. Everyone gets some basic level of promotion but if you excel they're gonna invest more in you because they'll get a return on it.

>> No.24615501

>>24615356
Just people losing interest in hololive and flee to nijisanji which has more contents and creative freedom.

>> No.24615529

>>24615322
20-25k.

>> No.24615550

>>24615305
I think the crunchyroll Vtuber did one to a niji girl but it was only like 2-300

>> No.24615553

>>24615322
If only someone could raid the stream...

>> No.24615564

>>24615392
LOL he dropped to sub 4k now

>> No.24615569

>>24615497
Anon, even anya got better treatment in merch

>> No.24615570

>>24615501
>creative freedom
The standardized birthday merch or the plagiarized line?

>> No.24615572

>>24615501
can you go to the creative writing thread, i'm sure they'd appreciate you more there

>> No.24615576

>>24615380
Where did that rumor come from? Sounds like bullshit.

>> No.24615578

>>24615444
Can Indogs get a membership even if they cannot SC?

>> No.24615580

https://youtu.be/jMQGa8NfCeo
Kobo's memberships raining down.

>> No.24615599

>>24615497
I am not disputing that part anon. My point is more on the
>members of the fandom rubbing that one in the faces of older members of the same fandom
Certain things are left unasked (like a ladies age) or unsaid and this is one of those cases

>> No.24615617

>>24615569
Anya's in a different company.

>> No.24615618

>>24615578
Didnt they get sc available already?

>> No.24615621

>>24615580
Does she have gifting enabled?

>> No.24615622

>>24615578
Membership and SC are two different thing tho?

>> No.24615624

>>24615392
he's just milking the karaoke afterparty

>> No.24615628

Kobo 5k in 3 minutes.

>> No.24615635

没有VOX就没有新中国

>> No.24615643
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>>24615400
>>24615437
Oh I've got the perfect one for this.

>> No.24615640
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kobokerz
it's time

>> No.24615641

>>24615617
seems like hers treats their people better

>> No.24615650

Anons, having the bloke samefagging is enough, you guys don't need to reply too

>> No.24615662

>>24615356
>How the hell could this happened???
They hired Fauna

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>>24615578
Indog here. You can.

>> No.24615682

>>24615621
I don't think so.

>> No.24615683

>>24615265
>are you saying i have to spend money if i want nice merch? Lmaoooo
what do you think

>> No.24615687

>>24615576
It doesn't take two brain cells to understand the "???" in Kronii's schedule. They both live in Canada.

>> No.24615692

>>24615580
Damn, she made a CM?

>> No.24615701

for once i'm glad indogs are here, at least they'll drown that samefag

>> No.24615706

Lui & stinky getting a funnel from Lamy ending?

>> No.24615708

>>24615643
LMAO

>> No.24615711

>>24615643
kek

>> No.24615712

>>24615570
Ability to collab with big names and enough social skills to carry out off collabs frequently.

>> No.24615713

OK, this is amusing. Also
>Anya... ;-(
>Reimu... ;-(

I think the "Anya-Petra" general will end up being taken over by Reimu

>> No.24615730

>>24615628
7k 4 minutes. She stonk

>> No.24615734

>>24615618
No, that's why they have to donate with their own site

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Mysta gold?

>> No.24615740

>>24615701
I'm not autistic enough to samefags for days
t.indog

>> No.24615745

Kino intro

>> No.24615748

>>24615599
It's a good thing, holofans being too pussy to push for better Myth treatment is why EN can't be bothered to stream nowadays, their fans don't even stand up for them in the face of discrimination and unfairness from management.

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>>24615713
And by "this" I mean THIS
>pic related

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>>24615501
> #08
since you guys are copy pasting from the list, I'll just post the full thing so that we can reference all the cope by numbers.

## NIJICOPE LIST - FULLY SOURCED EDITION
Numbered for your convenience and easy referencing.
Full list here (includes the removed shitposts, falseflags, schizoposts, non-niji and unsourced copes) : https://rentry.org/nijicopes/raw

** FRAMED IN GOLD - Direct from Anycolor and the Livers themselves **
> #01 Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural slow and steady growth (>>20457274) (<span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31785447)</span>
> #02 Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP (>>19597187)
> #03 Council didn't do as well Luxiem (>>19597187)

** CLASSIC **
> #04 Nijisanji has SOUL/Quality (>>>/jp/31465719 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35484805 >>>/jp/36325406)</span>
> #05 Nijisanji has better chemistry (>>4962776 <span class="deadlink">>>5591760 >>6383777)</span>
> #06 Nijisanji is building a sub-culture/VTubing culture (>>10983732 <span class="deadlink">>>11015414 >>11105922)</span>
> #07 Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
> #08 Nijisanji has more creative freedom (>>>/jp/25078156 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/35915283 >>>/jp/36404268 >>>/jp/36412049)</span>
> #09 Foreign audience bad, local Nips good (>>>/jp/23900990 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/31522946 >>>/jp/31923947 >>2689172 >>3342175 >>3343926 >>3555435)</span>
> #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>
> #11 Google trends (>>1787083 <span class="deadlink">>>1784574 >>2871777)</span>
> #12 This will be the end of Hololive/Holobubble will burst (>>10226380 <span class="deadlink">>>10959272 >>11111437)</span>
> #13 YouTube Trends (>>11812348)
> #14 Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market (>>12171645)
> #15 Cover and hololive fans use bots (>>3225905 <span class="deadlink">>>4283312)</span>
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>
> #17 Fortune telling a.k.a "J-just wait, Cover will fuck up something someday" (>>14561348 <span class="deadlink">>>14752560 >>14752914 >>21529067 >>22935912 >>23288417)</span>

** NUMBERS **
> #18 Ratiocope (>>5536896 <span class="deadlink">>>8648645 >>13972862 >>14457547 >>20388935)</span>
> #19 Dead cat bounce (>>10959272 <span class="deadlink">>>13922827 >>14015995 >>14198900)</span>
> #20 Quality numbers (>>14001847)
> #21 Just combine the peak CCV of all our streams and we win (>>13902618)
> #22 Statistics are fake numbers (>>15032001)
> #23 Luxiem has a better profit margin than Holofes (>>20201927)
> #24 Vox has the FASTEST SUB GROWTH in VTuber History (>>21373805 <span class="deadlink">>>21374368)</span>

** MERCH AND SPONSORS **
> #25 Holo merch is underproduced to create artificial scarcity (>>>/jp/32410399 <span class="deadlink">>>5902529 >>15489004 >>16388154)</span>
> #26 Holomerch sold out means the company regretted the collab (>>12121308)
> #27 You buy merch - even if it's shit - to support the liver, not to actually use it (>>23937339)
> #28 Sponsorships are retarded (>>12109798)
> #29 Associating with Hololive is toxic for Bushiroad's growth because China (>>19752522)

** IT DOESN'T COUNT **
> #30 Concerts and return streams don't count (>>11676374)
> #31 Outfit reveals don't count (>>14891587)
> #32 Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count (>>12296330)
> #33 Koshien is not an event (>>12127247)
> #34 Bookwalker doesn't count (>>19629617)

** GENERAL **
> #35 Holocope list (>>12296493 <span class="deadlink">>>12457630 >>14120649)</span>
> #36 Niji is still #1, they just removed it from their webpage to show humility (>>11747638)
> #37 Trailers are the same as advertisements (>>10992803 <span class="deadlink">>>10992938)</span>
> #38 Holo EN was a desperate gambit to find an audience (>>11753740)
> #39 Hololive just got lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side (>>>/jp/29352541)
> #40 *Selen delusion here* (>>8854844 <span class="deadlink">>>12533326 >>12955114 >>13021182 >>13045705 >>13445167 >>14879823)</span>
> #41 Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement (>>12085330)
> #42 Nijisanji helps their livers by promoting the main channel so that viewers will trickle down to smaller channels (>>12755553 <span class="deadlink">>>12755712)</span>
> #43 Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher (>>17835784)
> #44 Niji is smart for not wasting money on useless conventions/concerts (>>20202005)

And when all else fails...
> #45 Blatant Lying
> Vox is "higher" than Gura (>>24420454)
> Vox got a bigger billboard (>>24424746)
> Mika is the Queen of ID (>>24426268)
> SEA belongs to Mysta (>>24423909)
> Calling a straight graph a "worm" (>>24427484)

And after all that...
> #46 Playing the Victim : >>5836502 <span class="deadlink">>>11753740 >>13804174 >>14751831</span>

>> No.24615778

>>24615730
Sorry moona, you no longer the ID queen.

>> No.24615777

19k watching HoloID
<1k watching NijiID

>> No.24615785

>Kobo already 7k members
She is obliterating most of HoloEN except Gura...

>> No.24615793

>>24615737
post away, I will hide all homo lewds tho

>> No.24615814

>>24615785
She's obliterated holoJP too, most of them don't even have 5k members

>> No.24615820

>>24615701
nah man, i'm not that autistic enough

>> No.24615826

>>24615750
All hail demon lord slime!

>> No.24615829

>>24615713
Anya-Petra is board culture now, they aren't even the two lowest streamers anymore. Realistically it's Iofi-Reimu.

>> No.24615835

>>24615737
Yes, and likely tomorrow, too. Did you miss all those holofags melting down last thread?

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>>24615778
She's putting the hell of a fight for the crown tho

>> No.24615837
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HoloID is strong tonight
Anya...

>> No.24615844

>>24615750
Anya sure loves her kusoge.
Has she played any of the common buff games?

>> No.24615848

>>24615737
Tallyanon doesn't question the numbers, a gold is a gold.

>> No.24615850

Moona didn't even lose 400 viewers to Kobo.
Her fanbase really don't watch any other vtubers.

>> No.24615858

>>24615737
>Mysta Lewds
yes pls
just waiting for the tally anon

>> No.24615861

>>24615835
> #45

>> No.24615866

>>24615461
Smooth and organic
>>24615437
Polluted by bots

When these graphs will get the spotlights will see a lot of of [NOTICE]

>> No.24615869

>>24615785
Source info?

>> No.24615876

>>24615785
why holoEN specifically? pretty sure she beats a lot of people from many different places

>> No.24615877

>>24615785
how can you check the member list?

>> No.24615874

>>24615814
Well, HoloJP at least brings SC, sponsorships and CCV. HoloEN, on the other hand...

>> No.24615882
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>>24615829
I miss Sana-Fulgur...

>>24615850
it goes both ways, Moona #MoonUtau audience is something different from her usual ID audience

>> No.24615885

>>24615785
You're reading the wrong number anon, it's at 900 members currently

>> No.24615897

>>24615869
It was revealed to him in a dream.

>> No.24615921

>>24615677
How much does the basic level cost in your currency?

>> No.24615924
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1000+ membership already

>> No.24615925

>>24615877
Hololyzer has the number, I think. I'm not looking at it so I wouldn't be taking that anon at face value

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>>24615785
Anon ?

>> No.24615930

>>24615877
>>24615814
>>24615869
Literal blatant lying. It's nowhere near 7k

>> No.24615931
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Damn, Iofi got a lot of gifted subs.

>> No.24615933

>>24615882
Holy kek, it's been a while since last time I saw this, but it is still funny

>> No.24615934

>>24615850
>Moona Karaoke
no shit anon

>> No.24615938

>>24615921
$3

>> No.24615941

>getting Chinese members too
Jesas, do chinese housewives really?

>> No.24615948

>>24615785
Why are indogs like this? She doesn't have 7k nor do you know how much other holos have.

>> No.24615951

>>24615921
about $3.

>> No.24615959
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>>24615933
It had legs to go a little further but people lost interest due to Sana absence

>> No.24615965
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Kobo really does just have a new audienca. Pretty much non of the other girls graphs got affected by her going live.

>> No.24615968

>>24615930
Still faster than most JPs

>> No.24615971

Kobo has over 1 morbillion members right now, stop spewing fake news.

>> No.24615973

>>24615930
>>24615785
>another holofaggot lies
Getting real tired of this ngl

>> No.24615972

Dang thats a long of green indos in the chat.

>> No.24615974

>>24615948
We only know how much Haachama and I think Lofi have, and only based on their words.

>> No.24615982

>>24615948
We know how much Chammer had...

>> No.24615986

>>24615869
I will need to dig through the archive, but some anons ran their script to track how many members each HoloEN got on their membership opening stream before. The same anons (or maybe different, idk) also checked amount of "active" members (those who interacted with the stream in any manner - sending messages, chatting, sending SC, joining membership, etc.) each HoloEN member has
IIRC, most of HoloEN hovers around 5-7k members, with Gura and Mori being clear ahead with few thousands higher monthly. All HoloENs got somewhere between 2-3k members in their membership opening streams (not the exact amount, but around that, I will need to dig through the archive for the post)

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24615992

Okay, this one is a bit out of context, but is pretty fucking funny.

>> No.24616003

>>24615968
still faster than most ENs you mean

>> No.24616027

>>24615965
Most of Moona's audience is EOPs but she's holding some indos hostage that would normally be watching Kobo, probably a few k.

>> No.24616026

>>24615876
HoloEN lives rent free in everyone's heads. If they were truly irrelevant statements like "x beat holoen" would have the eight of "x beat matsuri"

>> No.24616029

>>24615941
Kobo activates maternal instinct

>> No.24616033

>>24615322
around 25k to 30k.
40k if Youtube accidentally releases the cull.

>> No.24616036

>>24615992
Not defending box for this but...
Come on now anon, it's free talk vs karaoke

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Jesas.

>> No.24616047

>>24615344
Beautiful indeed

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10k GET for Watame, block game surely does well for her numbers
>Thanks Watamage for sparing us the late 10k and the ensuing wrath

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>1k member in 10 mins
nijiniggs always saying indogs doesn't spend money on their oshi wtf?

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I fucking hate Sony

>> No.24616069

>>24615814
how many members did Haachama have again?
could use that as a baseline for the rest

>> No.24616083

>>24615986
That anon read the wrong number. Kobo is only at 900-ish members right now

>> No.24616087

>>24615992
Why Christmas?

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>>24615866
Compare it to a stream from the same company happening at the same time.

>> No.24616100

I want to be kobo cloud!

>> No.24616111

>>24616067
Prism can carry them

>> No.24616112

>>24616064
They're literally competing head-on. When did HoloID get so strong...

>> No.24616114

>>24616003
Not really, she's on par with most ENs right now, JPs are the ones with few members.

>> No.24616118

>>24616069
she mention something about trying to get 5k again. she had around 3k-ish at that time

>> No.24616120

>>24615692
I report that CM with scam policies
Thanks me later

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>>24616090
>>24615437
Also, a visual comparison.

>> No.24616129

>>24615440
Nijideflect engaged

>> No.24616133

>>24616036
Eh, I'm pretty tired of people screeching that Luxiem is going mainstream while in reality fags are slowing down.

>> No.24616136

holoID stronk, too bad kobo killed moona's chances of a 10k stream

>> No.24616137

>>24616062
Why are you believing Zhang words?

>> No.24616149

https://vrabi.net/video/gDQfnhXVMxA
Man King is struggling to get 30k today.

>> No.24616156

>>24615968
>>24616114
how the dream went?

>> No.24616175

>>24616064
SAVE ME FUJOSISTERS

>> No.24616176

>>24616067
I like sera but i fear she’ll end up like my oshi luna

>> No.24616182

>>24616133
Might be just box got his audience split between yt and b2

>> No.24616197

>>24616149
been dying too fast aside from the 2 games when it was in members only

>> No.24616212
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24616212

* NijiEN vs. HoloID numbers right now *
>20288: Hololive ID (4 streams)
>17606: Nijisanji EN (6 streams)

This really makes a numberfag think

>> No.24616214

https://twitter.com/yukihanalamy/status/1527660793092681728
Lamy 1M endurance tomorrow, gonna be a regular asalamy but when she hits 999k she's going to switch over to a debut reaction

>> No.24616215

>>24616136
Old dog should take the fbk role now. Let kobo and zeta shine.

>> No.24616222

>>24616149
Cool back to back NijiEN gold for tomorrow too then.
Can't wait

>> No.24616228

>>24616136
Her viewer retention is really good though

>> No.24616243

>>24616062
site?

>> No.24616261

>>24616214
Goddammit Lamy just sing please.

>> No.24616263

>>24616149
Is he playing like trash, apexfags are oversaturated due to Vsaikyo+ALGS (or whatever the name is), or are the fleshtubers getting all the views?

>> No.24616262

>>24616212
INDOCHAD STATUS

>> No.24616265

>>24616243
hololyzer

>> No.24616266

>>24616214
>getting 5k subs through zatsudan only
I don't think that's going to work...

>> No.24616269

>>24616214
Anyone remember what Towa got on her 1M karaoke? proberly gonna be similar numbers.

>> No.24616268

>>24615837
Judt wait anon
Anya stream is niche
The longer she stream the more number she get
Just wait till 25 jst

>> No.24616270

>>24616212
Anya still playing that curse game.

>> No.24616272

>>24616176
sera has some great songs, she deserves better

>> No.24616284

Let's say Kobo ends with like 2k members (about what Pomu got for her membership opening) at mostly $3 each. She keeps 1/3rd of that, so $2k a month. What level of income is that for an Indonesian?

>> No.24616299

>>24616284
Jesas.

>> No.24616303

>>24616212
At the moment this screen was taken Moona and Kobo alone had 17861 vs the 17606 from the six NijiEN streams (including the two from Luxiem).

It is a behaviour so erratic it is hard to try to figure out what could be going on

>> No.24616306

>>24616212
go anya go

>> No.24616309

>>24616270
true she shouldve play kojima's game.

>> No.24616310
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24616310

>>24616197
>members only
speaking of that, did no one comment on the fact that he got 9k watching immediately right after making the stream public?

>> No.24616316

>>24616263
Sounds like he had some good games while the 3d live was going on and he was streaming to members, but the last 2 days have not been great for him.

>> No.24616317

>>24616269
it starts at 11am so no way she's gonna get nowhere near. She's probably expecting to spend all day though so maybe she'll hit 999k at night and the debut reaction part will get similar numbers

>> No.24616320

>>24616268
>25 JST
Uhhh... I'm not familiar with nips hours

>> No.24616336

>>24616284
A bunch of hundred Millions.

>> No.24616344

>>24616284
300$/month to survive

>> No.24616353

>>24616284
Kinda an average joe income in Indonesian.

>> No.24616364

>>24616284
4-6 months of office worker?

>> No.24616375

>>24616284
That's around 30 million rupiah per month
so, she's already set for life if she can keep up with it

>> No.24616384

>>24616320
In 1h and 10 mins

>> No.24616383

>>24616320
Just keep adding. 23=11PM, 24=midnight, 25=1AM.
It helps keeping the date the same of the previous few hours

>> No.24616388

20k+ watching holo ID.

>> No.24616391

>>24616214
That's gonna be a long ass stream then. I predict 6-7 hours.

>> No.24616401

>>24616353(Me)
I miss the zero lmao. Pretty good I think, half a year average joe income.

>> No.24616403

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2Xjqf_mzc
>1 million endurance zatsudan
what the fuck lamy

>> No.24616404

>>24616317
Ah fair.

>> No.24616405

>>24616269
38k
https://vrabi.net/video/WS_iqDymXiQ

>> No.24616406

>>24616317
She's not getting 5k even in 24 hours lmao, JP sub growth is abysmal the only way she can succeed is if she tries to appeal to the EN market and leech off HoloEN's subs

>> No.24616408

>>24616284
Seems to be a little less than double the median national salary. Keep in mind the cost of living in Jakarta, if that's where she is (being able to offcollabs with the others it's likely) is much higher than elsewhere.

>> No.24616410

>>24616284
I make that amount from government bonds coupon every month anon, it's not that much

>> No.24616413
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24616413

>>24616284
pretty good probably

>> No.24616427

>>24615497
You're technically correct. And for long time JP fans this is expected.

But new EN fans don't know anything about this, they didn't know. And for them, for those few Nijigirls fans out there it feels bad to see this display of favoritism.

>> No.24616435

>>24616284
I believe HoloID are all wealthy enough to choose Vtuber as their jobs.
Reine should be richer than 90% of JP and EN.

>> No.24616446

>>24616067
You think it's bad but then you realise it's worse than that because Alba's doing better than the others while streaming the least thanks to her singer buff.

>> No.24616459

>>24616406
1 million sub pushes are always real fast for JPs.

>> No.24616461

>>24616403
She has 0 confidence on her singing anon. Literally never did a single proper karaoke

>> No.24616460

>>24616062
Bruh
You really believe in what nijikek saying?

>> No.24616477

>>24616410
What the hell is government bonds coupon?

>> No.24616486

>>24616284
She earns a wageslave's salary by being an anime girl.

>> No.24616495
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24616495

lol

>> No.24616507
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24616507

"Who wants to be my horse?"
"You guys will become a special horse, unicorn"
>unicorn
This blue cunny needs correction

>> No.24616511

>>24616495
Someone joined?

>> No.24616514

>>24616495
it's all chinks? wtf?

>> No.24616519

>>24616461
Again? Save for Suisei why does it feel like blue women just don't care much for singing in general? Gura can sing but she just refuse to make more song

>> No.24616517

>>24616408
Note the much higher here is still really low when compared to a non shit country, you can live pretty comfortably with 400 USD a month

>> No.24616526

>>24616435
Anya never seems like a wealthy person, or Ollie or Risu.

>> No.24616538

>>24616511
No

>> No.24616546

>>24616495
farming a chatting stream fujos are really shameless

>> No.24616553

>>24616459
Watch streams retard

>> No.24616559
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24616559

Both MoonUtau and Kobo are tapping from a completely different segment of the audience completely outside from the regular old HoloID one.

Moona numbers barely flinched and neither did the other two girls numbers when Kobo started

>> No.24616560

>>24616212
> 2 karaoke at the same time.
I know they don't want their stream to have the
the HoloJP and EN box audience but they don't even want the audience from their box? What's next? Risu guerilla karaoke in 5?

>> No.24616562

>>24616495
you had 5 minutes left to beat kobo

>> No.24616563

>>24616461
Is she just shy or is Noel really not the worst singer in holoJP?

>> No.24616584

>>24616495
What the fuck are they thinking by boosting a fucking free talk?

>> No.24616593

>>24616563
Is Noel or Choco worse?

>> No.24616600

KOBO 9K get

>> No.24616615

>>24616584
losing to kobo AND moona

>> No.24616618

>>24616519
Kobo's oshi is AZKi so there's hope for this blue brat.

>> No.24616630

>>24616477
https://www.bi.go.id/en/archive/obligasi-negara/default.aspx

>> No.24616631

>>24616563
Shy, she has zero confidence in her voice despite having appeared in various 3D lives.

>> No.24616634

>>24616039
>can't SC
>just give gifted memberships
lol

>> No.24616642
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24616642

>>24616559
and it's not just greynigger flooding her chat.

>> No.24616671

>>24616618
>AZKi
Damn, based taste.

>> No.24616681

>>24616642
I mean she literally opened members today

>> No.24616698

>>24616671
Inochi is kino. Fuck you.

>> No.24616715

>>24616681
That's moona you ape

>> No.24616721

9k for a membership open stream is pretty ridiculous, i remember these type of streams are huge debuffs.

>> No.24616725

>>24616553
I watched Towa's 1 mil, it was over in 40 minutes.
How bout you watch streams retard.

>> No.24616735

>>24616563
She sounds good in her covers
https://youtu.be/f2QIaERaKDE
https://youtu.be/6N6kY2_W37k

>> No.24616736

>>24616559
this explains and makes sense of the ~20k streams they got in the past weeks
Old 10k + New Audience 8k

>> No.24616738

>>24616681
it's mooner, anon.

>> No.24616752

>>24616630
Does Indonesia give these to people or something? Or is it just a bank security that pays interest? In that case I doubt most people would have that.

>> No.24616758

>>24616698
Wait I misread.

>> No.24616761

>>24616698
Reading comprehension?

>> No.24616762

>>24616671
Take her "oshi" with a grain of salt anon, she didn't even watch Holo before. In her mine Oshi could just be this girl singing that i saw first.

>> No.24616774

>>24616721
some are there just you know... for the fun

>> No.24616784

>>24616736
More like old 6k new from Moona tourist side, 8k new from Kobo side, 4k old from ID1 and ID2 old guard

>> No.24616791

>>24616618
I'd believe someone who claims that their oshi is Reimu over this.

>> No.24616797

>>24616758
I forgive you, anon.

>> No.24616801

>>24616725
Towa is way more popular than Lamy retard

>> No.24616805

>>24616721
pretty much a lite zatsu / celebration (in a way)

>> No.24616822

>>24616559
Kobo starting to sawtooth aswell now. Does Youtube just hate hololive audience?

>> No.24616844

>>24616784
that's still old 10k and new 8k

>> No.24616884

>>24616752
its guaranteed you will never get your money lost, pretty good to save your money to deflect inflation and tax

>> No.24616931
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24616931

Interesting "head to head". Same end point, completely different trajectories

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24616946

>>24616562
vox unable to beat kobo for the 2nd time

>> No.24616947

>>24616822
You should watch this live. Holy shit +100 -150 every 3 second

>> No.24616952

Fucking hell man, youtube forgot to unprivate the VODs from earlier. I was gonna watch those

>> No.24616974

>>24616946
still 1 more hour to go anon

>> No.24616977
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24616977

>>24616801

>> No.24616983
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24616983

Kuzuha finally managed to get his 30k for the day.

>> No.24617011
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24617011

it's not

>> No.24617013
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24617013

This is honestly really fucking stupid man

>> No.24617021
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24617021

* Streams over 10k now *
Hag slot?

>> No.24617020

>>24616410
>6% annual to get $24k
Nigga you're investing $400k on bonds. That's like you can buy 5 houses before getting that payment.

>> No.24617030

>>24616822
Youtube takes time to verify, that's why it goes up and down like a saw

>> No.24617046

>>24616974
riling up $22 this time sister?

>> No.24617049

>>24616983
Niji triple medal?

>> No.24617065

>>24617011
meant to reply >>24616974

>> No.24617073
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24617073

>The Digimon anon post is getting traction
Jun'sGang always finds a way

>> No.24617074

>>24617046
I'm gonna go with the premium $55 package

>> No.24617077

>>24617021
rein is a hag...

>> No.24617106

Post mountains and bugs spray to make chinks seerhy or they gonna make fun off ina birthday

>> No.24617113

>>24617021
is kuzuha that old?

>> No.24617114

>>24616822
>spams emotes
>sawtooths

>> No.24617129

>>24617065
I mean for the daily /#/ tally, not the vrabi one

>> No.24617198

>>24617114
The nips also spam emotes, but JP stream never get those sawtooth

>> No.24617203

So, fujos finally bot for gold and choose the day niji would have gotten gold anyways?

>> No.24617222
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24617222

Moona singing is still too strong

>> No.24617238

>>24617203
>niji
They are different faction anon

>> No.24617280

>>24617203
Luxiem whores are not the same as nijifans

>> No.24617285

>>24617203
Sadly but a lot japs are aware of their shitty tactics and more and more are coming

>> No.24617289

>>24617222
>2 karaoke.
Are they trying to prove something?

>> No.24617290

How the fuck does the blue ID have 10k in a membership stream?

>> No.24617306

>>24615322
>streaming on her usually slot.
Yeah nah.. that's 20-25k max. The asia folks are sleeping at those hours

>> No.24617304

>holos stream in sawtooth
>it's now youtube fault
Didn't you guys said it's a proof of bots?

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24617309

>>24617198
>Implying

>> No.24617312

>>24617203
They only do it when Luxiem/Vox is streaming.

>> No.24617316

>>24617290
the power of cunny

>> No.24617326

>>24617222
my works can wait, mooners kara is priority

>> No.24617342

>>24617203
They don't care about the rest of Niji. Beating Kuzuha/that girl with the 3D is the same as beating a Holo to them. In fact they might not even care what other streamers get they just want to boost Luxiem high for it's own sake.

>> No.24617352

>>24615400
>>24615437
IT'S MOUNT TAI!!!

>> No.24617354

Niji's focus on collab and ocerall branding vs Holo's focus on individual branding
Which one do you think is going to work better in the long run?

I feel like it's better for the overall brand though, since members might leave and it would hurt. Howver, it serms like Holol8ve brand is still much strong compared to Nijisanji everywhere.

>> No.24617364

>>24617309
That's not sawtooth, go watch EN streams instead of pretending JP is affected

>> No.24617368
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24617368

>the mountain graph collage has been up in reddit for more than an hour now
Watamage wills it

>> No.24617380

>>24617304
No one ever said sawtooth was bots retard. It's the huge peaks and valleys

>> No.24617395

>>24617290
didn't reach 10k yet, but 9k is absolutely massive.
how many does usually a membership opening numbers fare?

>> No.24617400

>>24617290
9k

>> No.24617405

>gen 5 and holox mogged by kobo
I, I kneel...

>> No.24617418

>>24617368
Posting it when CN was going to bed was a good idea.

>> No.24617440

>>24615643
You got me there anon

>> No.24617449
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24617449

>>24617304
>/#/ is one person
Meds

Also not every 'sawtooth' is the same, my argument was the fixed interval with a semi regular amplitude that is indicative of automated viewers.

>> No.24617454

>>24617354
It's pretty obvious which ones works better. If you have strong talents it will buff the brand anyway, starting with the brand is just backwards thinking.

>> No.24617459

Guys, watch this.

>> No.24617485

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWWIXD4mHE

EN GOLD

>> No.24617498

How the fuck is Moona still climbing

>> No.24617520

>>24617485
>on Nina channel
anon...

>> No.24617521

>>24617498
Her Karaokes are the buffest of buff content for her.

>> No.24617527

>>24617368
But does anyone care? You know redditors will just dismiss it as slander.

>> No.24617528

>>24617485
You forgot Mysta Handjob collab?

>> No.24617532

>>24617485
Bit late and they already spent their money for the day. Also Nina's channel.

>> No.24617555

>>24617485
Jesus, N8jiEN is just dunking on HoloEN at this poin5. It's an all out war and HoloEN is losing.

>> No.24617566

>>24617498
>Pocky tasting
Damn, only cucks would watch this

>> No.24617568

>>24617364
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jMQGa8NfCeo
>kobo's 'sawtooth' in question
Looks pretty much the same anon

>> No.24617574

>>24617498
Closer to burger noon and it seems some of the people in Kobo's stream are trickling out.

>> No.24617587

>>24617304
Only one person ever said that as a deflection so it was probably you.

>> No.24617589

>>24617532
>already spent their money for the day
true, they are saving for this next
https://youtu.be/V-I0OEplDtU

>> No.24617605

>>24617203
Fujos hate NijiJP

>> No.24617630

>>24617527
You'd be surprised. People are actually doubting the legitimacy of the graph right now.

>> No.24617648

>fat fingers
LMAO

>> No.24617649

10k get

>> No.24617652

>>24617589
Yeah that one's gonna have a wild graph.

>> No.24617654

>>24617364
>being obtuse with pattern that looks 99% similar
Does HoloEN niggers really?

>> No.24617658

Moona 10K get finally jesus

>> No.24617660

Moona 10k get let's gooo

>> No.24617665

Hobest question but can't NijiEN use this momentum to grow in NA more? It makes me sad to see Lazulight at a con with 300 people at most.
They deserve to stand on a bigger stage in the west.

>> No.24617666

MOONA 10K KNEELLLLLLLLL

>> No.24617689

>10k with Titanic

YOU'REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.24617702

>>24617449
Oh, it's the retard that says sawtoothing is Botting.
If it really was, you fucking bet Gura's Vods would be culled to all hell, when it's the exact goddamn opposite.

>> No.24617709

>>24617498
one of her gachi just gave her 120 member gift

>> No.24617707

>>24617665
>NA
As if Anycolor cares about NA, CN is where their hopes are.

>> No.24617714

trying your best eh

>> No.24617715

>>24617665
NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE GIRLS
THEY WILL NEVER CARE ABOUT THE GIRLS
STOP EXPECTING THEM TO CARE ABOUT THE GIRLS
they barely give a fuck about noctyx, it's literally just luxiem

>> No.24617721
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24617721

>>24617658
>>24617660
>>24617666
MOONA I KNEEL!

>>24615461
KNEEL TOO FAG!

>> No.24617732

>>24617568
You're blind, Kobo's sawtooths are identical to EN sawtooths not whatever JP's shit is

>> No.24617750

>>24617665
>nijiCN
>Growing the girls in any real way except inflating their CCV via fujos camping streams for impromptu collabs with the dudes

>> No.24617753

>>24617568
>>24617654
Ssshhh.. shut up anons, let the retards cope. Don't ruin their delusions else we might have suicide counts in our hands

>> No.24617760

>>24617665
No. But they are growing slowly organically, most of the girls are up 400-1k average viewers from late 2021. The guys numbers are all over the place so it's hard to sense what they really are but they seem to be more or less still growing or at least not reclining much, and Noctyx seems plateaued.

>> No.24617771

>>24617689
Reminds me of when she got 10K on I Will Always Love You

>> No.24617776

>>24617721
Celine Dion is such a buff honestly

>> No.24617796

>>24615643
Now this is art

>> No.24617797
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24617797

https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1527667172222259200

>> No.24617832

>>24617797
anyone going to this event?

>> No.24617834

>>24617776
When you're a power singer like Moona it is, Kiara or Bae singing Celine Dion would not be nearly as impactful.

>> No.24617837

>>24617203
There's no UNITY in Niji

>> No.24617839

>>24616212
GO ANYA GO!!!

>> No.24617842

>>24617630
Discrediting the source of the graphs is enough to shut down discussion, since they come from third party sites. Hell, even if Youtube itself had posted the graphs people would argue that Youtube's own software failed to track the views properly. These people don't want to be convinced.

>> No.24617854

>>24617797
Looks small compare to niji's

>> No.24617853

>>24617797
Now show the niji en con lol

>> No.24617856

>>24617760
This is what Riku said. They would grow naturally instead of forcefully acquiring fana. And look where Niji is now. Stand atop a mountain with no competitor left.

>> No.24617864

>>24617797
looks spacious, hope you guys have fun there

>> No.24617874

>>24617832
When they do this is some flyover state or Chicago I'll go.

>> No.24617895

>>24617797
Luxiem could fill up Tokyo Dome eaily

>> No.24617934

>>24617856
Well, the rest of the company isn't growing, so that's not exactly great. 3/20 of the EN branch people isn't enough to sustain overall growth.

>> No.24617935

>>24617702
Gura's vods dropped 5-10k every other time anon. it supports my conjecture that these 300+ automated viewers that hits every 1 minute interval doesn't contribute much towards the ccv nor the vod amount. Thus aren't that noticeable and are subsided by natural vod growth when they do get subtracted

>> No.24617946

>>24617854
Luxiem's panel in Anime Festival is actually bigger than this.

>> No.24617961

>>24617665
>deserve

>> No.24617967
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24617967

>>24617856
You mean they stand atop the Huangshan mountains? very interesting thought, nijisis

>> No.24617973

>>24617797
200-300 seats only?
i swear they couldve fill the place more.

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