/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Someone reminded Gura of doing JP Duolingo stream
Is it time
FOR NUMBERS

>Someone reminded Gura of the duolingo
It's back on the menu boys

GURA DUOLINGOOOOO LETS GOOOOO

>>24588209
Are Duolingos still a buff for EN?

>>24588209
Overtime, not immediately. Still don't understand the appeal of Duolingo stream

what happened to Fauna's stream in vstats?

>>24588274
It'll do OK CCV but the reason it's a meme is the recommends, Youtube freaked the fuck out over that Duolingo VOD and people were still getting it recommended over a year later

gura totsu invite @everyone

GURA TOSTU BD
NUMBERS

>Gura wants to do Duolingo, WWE streams, playing buff games, wants to invite everybody she can to the birthday totsu
who the fuck is this shark?

Gura doing @everyone for her birthday, big numbers incoming

>>24588209
>4 mil subs
>Possible 3D karaoke
>Birthday
>2K wwe
>Duolingo
Is June going to be Gura month?

Is this, Gura's character development?

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>36,605: Toya (Nijisanji)
>34,663: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,876: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,741: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,589: Choco (Hololive)
>22,950: AZKi (Hololive)
>21,107: Lamy (Hololive)
>21,055: Gura (Hololive)
>19,358: Reid (Neo Porte)
>14,615: Towa (Hololive)
>12,834: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,274: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,226: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>11,183: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,084: Korone (Hololive)
>11,048: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,640: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,373: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,245: Iroha (Hololive)

>>24588375
Youtube freaked the fuck out because Gura's JP translators mined it for every single moment in clips. Seriously this has 2 million view VOD but probably like 10-15 million views in clips

>>24588394
She heard the Luxiem Fujos talking shit so now she is ready to show them what EN numbers can really be.

>hype up her birthday more than the 3D reveal.

>>24588394
3D LIVE IN JP PROMISED???? She only gets this motived right when one of her dreams is being fulfilled by Cover!

>>24588436
What makes you think WWE and Duolingo are june and not next week?

>>24588455
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>Zeta watching Gura's SC reading
This girl fucking loves EN so much doesn't she

>>24588274
it's not about the horse race for this one, it's the algo and vod views, the first one was a very fascinating anomaly

>>24588501
to add to my post, she will go on a decline right after but the lead up is always super motivated GURA

>>24588517
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
99x: Hololive
31x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
11x: Kuzuha
9x: Miko
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata
4x: Marine, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>24588529
Yes, because....
>>24588456
The second one is going to get strip-mined for clips as well (But only if she actually gets it done this time instead of cancelling at the last moment).

>>24588394
>>24588501
Gura promises are only slightly better than Mori's, come on now anons, lower your expectations.

>>24588518
>Millie could have be Zeta
Zeta wants to be EN so bad, hangs out/collabs with EN members already and watches them more than ID. Millie why did you reject the offer.....

>>24588394
She wants her 4 million fast so it lands right on her birthday, I know it's not great for us numberfags but a 4 million together with a birthday is a pretty insane event

>>24586022
Only Pekora, Marine, and Miko hit that regularly. Aqua does now but that is due to rarity buff. She was 15-20k before she stopped streaming.

>>24588395
Kek. No one from JP is going to answer. JPs have long stopped caring about her after she hard reclined. She only has herself to blame after ghosting everyone when she was popular. Nowadays it's all HoloX

Take Gura's words with a ton of salt because she never follows through. She is the Todd Howard of vtuber, talk big but delivering none

>>24588394
co host with migo when it's EN/ID turn for bigger numbers

If she really invite everyone in JP,ID and EN for Totsus how long will her BD steam be

>>24588687
No Gura, don't do it!
I'd rather it be a few weeks after so it lands on July the 4th and she doesn't end up bundling the two together. That would be delicious too.

>>24588483
Anon? The 3d reveal was at holofes. You have to let it go, Home3d isn't a 3d debut.

>>24588666
why did anyone ever think Millie would be in Holo? seriously, her actual rl friends are in Nijisanji

>>24588743
Look at how long Bae's went for.

>>24588515
I'll be happy either way.
I'm just expecting her to take it easy next week since Gura usually have a schedule full of games 1 week and go non-schedule the next, taking it easy for that week. I imagine she would want to advertise her more popular upcoming streams but then again Gura is so anti-numbers that I could be wrong.

>>24588743
I really hope she'd get a lot of interesting JP callers but I get the impression Gura is still intimidating for JPs to approach, so we'll see.

>>24588729
Tell me sweet lies gura

>>24588743
Can't be longer than IDs totsu with all the holomem, indie, other agency, leech.

When was the last time an EN chuuba got global gold?

>>24588816
She has no public stream for the next 3 days, and might not stream for another extra 2 because those 3 days are for cons.

>>24588816
>I imagine she would want to advertise
anon, this is Gura, how could you even imagine that? Does this thread get hyped the instant Gura makes empty promises?

>>24588841
Bae birthday was fucking long

>>24588909
Every numberfag longs deep down for Gura to fulfill her true potential

>>24588897
Calli concert?

Girls that will 100% show up
Okayu
Shion
Matsuri
Aki
Marine
Fubuki

>>24588897
Last month mori 3d concert and gura slip 3 times: 2 in April and 1 this month for now

>>24588765
>>24588765
She mentioned that she wanted to celebrate both together in a members stream like 1-2 week before she took her house hunting break. .

>>24588973
I know, but.....if her 4m is far enough from her BDay she'll have no choice!

>>24589048
why do you think shes suddenly pulling out buff content

>>24588951
she never will, she's so anti numbers that it's literally ingrained in her. Even if she does a buff stream, she won't advertise. If she does eventually do a 3d live, she won't advertise.

>>24588966
Fucking kino already but I also want some wildcards. Gimme, uhh, Nene, Pekora, Sora. And Suisei so they can commit to doing a joint orisong.

>>24588903
Yeah, just because she not streaming doesn't mean she's not busy so I fully expect next week to be a light week for Gura.

>>24589170
Anon, Pekora is dead.

>>24588966
Aqua...miko...

>>24588209
So did she just forget or something?

>>24588966
Polka or i riot

>>24589224
Is really hard to predict Aqua showing up for these things, but yeah Miko is also a 100%

>>24589223
Oh yeah, I know. Just wishful thinking she'd be better by June 20.

>>24589224
>>24589223
Anons, her Birthday isn't until next month anyways, that's plenty of time for most of those on break to have rested up and be ready to go.

>>24589224
Doubtful for Aqua but Miko showed up for both Bae and IRyS so I see no reason why she wouldn't show up for Gura.

>>24589263
she has a long list of stuff she wants to reschedule

Did someone already share this?
Apparently lot of nijien girls fan got butthurt about merch
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1527454056750362624?t=7Kfu53i2rjMY8Eh9Ex5Vkw&s=19
How long do you think it is untill soldout

>>24588966
Fubuki? Will she?

>>24589263
got rescheduled due to perms, see la+'s Duolingo that got moved around a similar time, and probably either forgot to jot it down or it got put at the end of the list

>>24589163
She's advertise any event that actually mattered to her. Its not like this is her first birthday. She hyped up holofes, bds, her big april 1st stream she organized etc

You're confusing her with the debuff detective, the alpha and omega of self debuffs. Gura is nowhere near that bad.

>>24588966
Can't believe you left out EN biggest supporter.

> Gura promises
> thread gets riled up and hyped
> fails to deliver or if she does deliver, she doesn't advertise and it slips
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>24589387
POLKA LOVE

>>24588966
If it was sent to everyone I'd expect Polka and Watame.

>>24589224
Miko showing up for Gura would be kino. Also seems to be liked by chumbuds, hell who in EN doesn't like migo?

>>24589335Giorls are there to fill out the roster. Luxiem makes the money.

>>24589335
https://twitter.com/Myne__/status/1527470844317925384
Kek

>>24589335
I was fully expecting this to be 1 or two posts but holy shit yeah, the NijiEn girl fans are actually mads.

This pleases me, choke on your fucking chemistry shitposting NijiEn fans /here/. Choke on all that shilling, and welcome to manjisanji

>>24589335
>Half Anniversary Goods

And they are butthurt because they finger their anus too much?

>>24588966
Wouldn't La+ show up?

>>24589387
I love unity fox so much I wish she'd stop just observing EN from a distance and interact with them more

>>24589335
Money speaking louder than their chemistry rumao.

>>24589395
I WANT
TO
BELIEVE!!!!!!

>>24589335
they know which livers makes the money. The girls' fans just have to suck it up.

>>24589312
>Timezones
There's your reason anon

>>24589472
This is blatant favoritism, it's not surprising they're upset.
This is why Cover generally gives everyone the same amount of merch runs. They could easily just spam Pekora/Aqua merch runs and give Aki just her birthday if they wanted to min-max shit.

>>24589335
unsurprised, and I predict those fans do nothing and its just a bunch of flash. They're weak.

Ain't no chemistry between livers and management, and they can suck it up or ship out, they're just accessories.

>>24589335
>Chemistry
Anyblack is going to run them fujos dry at every opportunity they could

>>24589335

>>24589335
Butthurt for what?

>>24589550
yeah believe it if you want, I'm not going to say "I told you so" when this thread inevitably gets disappointed.

>>24589629
>Anyblack.

>>24589676
None of the 3 girls, who debuted before the boys, got half anni merch.
It's been 3 fucking days since lazulight's anniversary and they're already dropping this and overshadowing it.
Obsydia specifically have not gotten shit, no new outfit, nothing, despite debuting like a month after lazulight and lazulight already got theirs

>>24589614
Cover only does that to keep them in line. They are walking fine lines to not make everything catty. Most of the supposed feuds and anger is because of perceived favoritism towards someone.

>>24589335
lmao actually hilarious

>>24589719
But I didn't see any lazulight's fans complain about it on twitter though?

>>24589614
>It's not surprising they're upset
Looks like the NijiEN fans are just learning about Manjisanji. In Nijisanji the girls are just props for the boys to play off of. The only branch this isn't true for is NijiID (well, what used to be NijiID).

>>24589793
Did you not click that link? Did you not scroll down? I don't understand.

>>24589719
Ethyria never got their voice pack sets that Lazulight and Obsydia got.
Nina got more merch than the others since she's the highest subbed of that wave.

>>24589335
LMAO

Nobody tell them about how high quality Hololive merch is in comparison. I can't wait to get my giant IRyS plushie, Journey CD, and coffee mug. Enjoy your endless acrylic stands Nijiniggers.

>>24589805
It's not really a Manjisanji thing, this shit happens on JP too.
Only the notable groups or popular talents get all the unique merch while the rest get the cookie cutter merch.

>>24589793
Blind chama
It literally the top of fucking comment
With 200 like

>>24589335
Are those actually Niji EN fans or just concern trolls? In my experience most of the female fans just put their heads down and keep their mouths shut about the males taking over.

>>24589894
>>24589471
their merch looks bad but it's because you're supposed to combine them

>>24589335
>acrylic stands
Why the fuck can't Nijisanji put out some decent merch? Do they ever get the nice custom goods Hololive girls get or is it just acrylics and keychains and voicepacks forever? You could probably get much nicer, more interesting NijiEN merch by buying knockoffs on Aliexpress

>>24589929
The result of ACCELERATION.
Too many low/underperforming talents that no one would shell out for merch.

>>24589335
Well from here i hope they learn what kind of company they're supporting

>>24589981
Some of them are ACTUAL NijiEN fans based on their twitter history that I clicked through out of boredom.

>>24589933
>>24589825
All I see is only Luxiem's fans lost their mind and wet themselves.

>>24589335
It's not a charity it's a business. People are too used to Hololive's "save everyone" shit. Perform well and you get invested in, don't and well, good luck.

>IRyS getting more views than Fauna switch sports
IRyS >>>>>>> Fauna

>>24589471
>Lazulight T-shirts
>Luxiem hangers
What does that mean?

>>24589793
kek are you blind? there's like 5 comments with 100+ likes

>>24589981
Well apparently its a real fan
You can check each account one by one
Like this 1
https://twitter.com/Carateca2?s=20&t=k8sFia1z3WPEpcbEP8zzxg

>>24590001
Its the cheapest and easiest to create
Yuan moneyi purisu understando

>>24589335
>Debut goods
>Valentine's goods
>Shakira goods
>Half anniversary goods
All the same and none the wiser. Merch ranging from acrylic stands, file folder, badges etc when everything couldve been printed easily.

I like the consistency of faunaschizo. It kinda reminds me of /hlg/'s schizos

>>24589805
That's because everyone in ID (and presumably KR) sucked equally so there's no sense in favoritism. The one person who could have asked for it, hana, was terrified of being perceived as being in any way different to the point of refusing 3D.

>>24590153
>THE IDOLM@STER.
Yeah sure

>>24590124
Nah, IRyS has always gotten decent views. Don't let the doomers here fool you. She just gets killed in multi POV collabs.

>>24590124
Faunaschizo, Fauna's first stream of this peaked at 8k and her second one 7k

>>24590124
Fauna was a guerilla and Irys is not getting more than her yet?

>>24590124
Nigger get a hobby.

>>24590142
You insert the boys inside of the girls.

>>24590310
Thats his hobby

>>24590124
I know you're baiting but they're roughly the same. IRyS is capable of higher numbers but Fauna has more dedicated fans.

what is this irys vs fauna shit?

>>24590233
This is what I've been saying, if you want (you)s:
-pick a timeslot
-pick someone to anti (don't pick entire gens
-do it every day
Schizo numbers will come to you and people will buy your schizo merch.

>>24590250
>>24590253
>>24590284
>>24590310
>>24590343
>why is this thread so shit though?

>>24590090
Want some screenshot?
Here you go anon
Also this one https://twitter.com/aajjely/status/1527459595563814922?s=19

>>24590312
More boys are the one who hard carrying the girls.

>>24590350
We have a resident schizo who hates Fauna and posts about her for 10 hours a day, denigrating her in any way he can think of. Please undastand.

>>24590350
It's the Fauna schizo.

>>24590376
>>24590245

>>24590245
Don't just stop at fucking bio and try to damage control
Scroll down

>>24590343
I actually think it's the other way around. Fauna is capable of higher numbers but IRyS has more dedicated fans. Have you seen how insane IRyS fans get?

>>24590374
I'll respond to whatever I want to respond to faggot.

>>24590429
>>24590153

>this is what your average hololive fan thinks about gift subs
It's over, they're going to complain about them being disabled until the girls turn them on

is it so hard to look at their likes or some shit to get a gist of their history ?

>>24590253
>>24590284
IRyS is going to get more. She just started the stream and it's still climbing. Fauna can't even get 10k on a brand new game she was the first to play. A total joke.

>>24590486
Ok retard, enjoy your shit threads. Learn to ignore

>>24590376
I want to respond to this with a "welcome to Manjisanji" tweet or something but I know some faggot here will screen cap it and I'll get made fun of.

>>24590499

>>24590499
No one care what plebbit thinks. The girls themselves fucking hate it and wil ltake steps to minimize them. The fags at reddit know fucking nothing about any of the holos which is why they frequently sperg out about parasocial stuff even though holos love that shit.

>>24590445
They're actually very similar and neither one really goes for very high peak streams normally so I'd call it a coin flip on their ceiling if streamed under ideal conditions.

>>24590499
value of their opinion:
/vt/ > nothing > discordfags > /r/edditors > chinks and nijiniggers

>>24590499
How many of these are members?

>>24590445
I would agree with this. IRyS also gets significantly more superchats.

>>24590499
Why covered the names from a public discussion?

>>24590499
Why should they care what Reddit says? They like the Homos more than some JP Holos

>>24590499
how piss poor you have to be to not be able to member your oshi?
and why would you want a free membership of someone you are not going to watch? if you are not paying for it clearly it means you don't need it

rrat: The faunaschizo is also the lamyschizo which is at the same time the gen5schizo

>>24590493
And?
He is a idol master fa and probably just a holokek trying to pretend he is EN Girls' fans.

>>24590560
Lmao
Imma save this gif as meme
Thx anon

>>24590499
Reddit people will do what they're told to do. As soon as Cover's official position is no gifted subs they're have post extolling the virtues of said position with thousands of upvotes and anyone who disagrees will be downvoted into oblivion. One week it's best to bow to China to appease them and save the CN girls and the next it's totally inevitable that they be cut loose but it's for the best.

>>24589894
>>24590001

Lets be fair holoEN half year goods were also acrylic stands and mascot charms and pins
https://shop.geekjack.net/products/hololive-english-myth-half-year-anniversary-commemorative-goods-complete-pack
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololiveen_council_anhalfyear

>>24590686
They dont even watch them

>>24590706
>>24590153

>>24590709
Yeah but then all of them pretty much had their birthdays right after that with the awesome personalized merch. The Niji birthday merch was also just pins and acrylic stands.

>>24590706
>lot of retweet and talk about NijiEN girl
>So WhAt!1?!1? ShE mAy Be A pReTeNdEr!1!1
Fuck off

Does Anykara not have their talents design the merch? like custom stuff. Merch like Tako beanbags or Korone's boxing gloves/sandbag etc

>>24590720
Which makes their opinion even more worthless

>>24590499
>Mumei is going to create a members tier for gifting thats cheaper for emotes only
>Ame has already done this
>Ina ranted about it a bit already
kind of upsetting these people think its just fans that want membership streams to stay the way they are already.

>>24590704
Gen 5 schizo is more articulate and creative, he occasionally comes up with some funny stuff and seems to be borderline trolling. The Fauna guy is borderline brain damaged and just makes the laziest and dumbest comments possible.

>>24590706
Did you just sperg out when you read the word idol or something?

>>24589335
Luxiem has gotten more merch in 6 months than the NijiEN girls combined. Think of it this way, Luxiem has 2.5 years combined in "man hours". LazuLight has 3 years, Obsydia has 2.5 years, and Ethyria has 2.6 years.

30 months vs 98 months in total.

Nijisanji is profitable because they do this, Luxiem is significantly more than an order of magnitude more profitable than all the girls combined.

That Ollie thread actually picked up a ton of steam. I was kind of surprised a lot of the thread lambasted her. Not that they were wrong, Ollie was a fucking retard, but yeah. The thread was less about gifted content and more about expecting member content (like board posts) to not make their rounds on the internet it seems

>>24590499
I had the displeasure of going through that thread and most of them are blaming the girls for being against gift subbing.
They're also telling the girls to stay in their lane and don't get personal with their fanbase.

>>24590709
>shit quality merch
And holokeks are laughing at us for our merch?
Shamless

>>24590811
If they fucking watched streams they'd know a good chunk of holoen, when it was first rolling out to the JPs as a test, were hard against it. But they don't fucking watch streams and then go and get mad that people are upset about it when the holos themselves don't want it

>>24590704
He's also the pink Lamy schizo.

lazulight is part of anycolor but black
black is nijicn, they're a separate entity

>>24590811
They'd need to actually watch streams.The amount of indirect shitting they do on JP holos by mocking parasocial stuff is insane. They seem to cope with the mental gymnastics that "w-well all the holos share my opinion but they just can't say it due to le toxic idol culture".

>>24590499
Here is the comment.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ut4hje/remember_people_know_your_boundaries/i98crep/?context=999
Tbf this is partly because of the Ollie's rant in member which heavily affect this dumbfuck who don't have their own opinion and just upvote with the hivemind.

>>24590807
It's more expensive and they aren't guaranteed to sell a bunch like with Holos. Only the top 20-30% of Nijis could reliably sell out a full lot of goods.

>>24590807
Not for birthdays or such, but some of them do do custom merch like Sanbaka Anniversary did. There are simply too many talents for them to try and do custom merch for each and every one of their birthdays.

>>24590706
had a look through who he follows and the closest thing to hololive he follows is UI and Mika Pikazo

>>24590849
Sometimes I feel like Reddit doesn't even like Hololive. They're just there because it's a big fandom

>>24590807
The talents will have to pay for custom merch

>>24590499
They don't even watch stream.
Imaging not giving money to something that you claimed to enjoy.

>>24590709
The difference is that all of them got the same merch, you don't have this situation where one group of girls got special six month anniversary merch while the other group gets Jack shit

>>24590846
People keep endlessly reposting the Ollie thing as bait. It's probably SEAmonkeys fighting each other in there.

>>24590938
Then probably just holokek using his alt account to shit nijisanji.

>>24590811
Redditors? Watch streams?

>>24590499
>Is only 5$ that separates you from others is not that special
meanwhile they can't give the 5$....

>>24590924
>locked
wait what the hell kek

>>24591006
>>24590706
Nijiniggers and their persecution complex

>>24590499
What kind of fucking question is this? Because they're the actual customers you dipshit. Fucking reddit.

>>24590846
What happened to EOPs man? They'd have lambasted anyone posting members content just a year ago, now they're
>w-well you shouldn't expect us not to leak it also I don't want to be a tier 2 fan 10 dollars is my wages for 20 years

>>24590924
The comment section is more diverse in opinion than i expected after see that screenshot.

>>24590945
Must be a TTfag

Gura gold today

>>24591055
I'm not a niji fan you retard.
I just analyze for you guys that holokek is probably just a niji fan wanna be .

>>24591074
I'm glad no one leaks JP members content here that much. There is sometimes juicy things the sisters would love to gossip about in them but they never touch this board.

>>24591070
>Artia flair

>>24591092
I don't know why you'd expect any screenshot of reddit to not be cherrypicked to shit, pretty much anyone who posts reddit screenshots here only does so because there's a narrative they are trying to push

>>24591119
25k is too low for a gold. The JP can beat that.

>>24591149
I can smell your nipples from here, nijjer.

>>24591149
>t.

>>24591223
He's just baiting. It's obvious King will get gold today because of CR cup. Might podium, though

>>24590499
Its gatekeeping behavior between fans and customers. All customers are fans, but not every fan is a customer.

https://youtu.be/0Bm6y7AYz8I
Are you guys ready for the debuff detective setting up a guerilla stream in 3 minutes in the middle of 3 EN streams?

>>24590142
Fujos nakadashi on clients to have money on merch, then scoop out the fetus with the hanger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bm6y7AYz8I
5 MINUTE WAITING ROOM LETSSSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>24591332
waw...

>>24590924
i decided to read the rest of the thread and man i fucking hate so many of these people it feels like they dont even watch the girls

here comes Laplus with a solid 10k a few minutes after going live.

>>24591332
Is this timeslot the closest thing EN has to JP hell hours? Why the fuck do they overlap so much in it

>>24591284
It's like comparing people who buy anime blu-rays and people who pirate anime. They're both fans, but you're obviously going to listen to the actual paying customers

>>24591074
The redditors who are there now are not the same ones who were active before EN.
The current subreddit basically flanderizes every JP holo into one or two quirks and then spams that in every meme. Even the "KFP" in that link doesn't fucking watch Kiara cause Kiara was way more extreme about it in wanting time gated membership content (like Fantia).

>>24591360
that's not gonna work debuffson
it's apex season during jp hours

I wish Bae would stop overlapping so much. The only reason she's not NijiEN tier is because the other girls funnel into her when they finish.

>>24591366
Just go check their accounts' activities then.

>>24591393
They're clipwatchers. Of course they only know the bare minimum

>>24591366
I ain't reading that shit. Are they pretending the girls don't like the barrier and fan segregation? I've never met a holo that acted the same way to members as general fans.

>>24591332
>Doesn't stream when nobody is streaming
>Decide to stream when there're many overlapping
What's the problem with Amelia?

>>24589335
I honestly want to reply "Welcome to manjisanji" to every one of the complainers, talk me out of it.

>>24591469
she's literally anti-numbers, not even a joke

>>24591511
do it pussy

>>24591332
Sasuga Debuffson, even when it seems impossible to overcome herself, she always manages to do it somehow

>>24591382
Because it’s 8PM in PST, which is primetime for the western side of NA. It’s why you see Ame/Kronii stream there (100% likely they live on west) and Mumei streams late also so it seems likely she lives on west coast too.

Irys is a noon streamer and Bae I have no fucking clue. Isn’t Australia time like 2-3 hours ahead of JP timezone? She should just be night streamer man

>>24591511
It's a lot of effort for something people can report for bot behaviour. Just do it on the top post and that should be enough

>>24591469
did you think "debuff detective" was a joke?

>>24591511
No anon dont do eet~~~, imagine the seethe~~~~

>>24591440
sifted only one seemed to watch streams and only ever referenced gura streams

>>24591429
She needs to take early JP hours (4/5am EST). This would be better hours for her Korean fans, and she would catch some IRyS funnels since IRyS frequently streams that late.

>>24591268
>>24591231
Stop denying the truth retard

dear lord jesus irys is so bad at this game i'm surprised people aren't leaving

>>24591771
You seriously think Irystocrats watch her because she's good at games ?

>>24591771
People don't watch vtubers play wii sports for the skill.

>>24590924
People on reddit are so paranoid about parasocial relationships that they really are starting to hurt the girls feelings even when it's their choice to do things in a certain way..jesas..

>>24591763
NIjiseethe

>Look at that beautiful number
IRYS YES

>>24589793
Can confirmed

>>24591994
It's because TT and Twitch streamers have been shitting on it for years.
Hololive subreddit has the largest overlap with the TT subreddit.

>>24591584
How the fuck is there not an east coast Holo?

>>24592299
You say that but you have Ina, Fauna, and Gura taking up pre and actual primte time. East coast would not stream at fucking 12pm est, that's retarded.

>>24592299
There is no asian in East Coast
If there are they will probably aleady are niji's fans.

>>24592299
Her name is Gawr Gura!!
Fauna is likely east coast or central since 6PM EST is kind of in that spot of being both occupied with life while also having free time as a viewer. It’s typically dinner time or you know, doing household shit.

But yeah, I mean when you get down to it, Mori and Irys are in Japan, Sana and Bae are Australian, Kiara is Austrian and Kronii/Ame are almost certainly west coast. That leaves just Gura, Ina, Mumei and Fauna

>>24592332
Ina is gonna be gone for like a month.

>>24592425
I'm pretty sure Fauna is west coast as well. She just streams earlier.

>>24590499
Do they not understand that, maybe... just maybe... that Holos do not want to have to deal with haters, non-fans and the immature randomly getting access to their more "personal" streams and shitting up the work environment where they feel the most relaxed at?

Is it a crime against humanity to gas these retarded redditors?

>bae and mon moving to minecraft
>with their shitty ass tango stream
im so mad

>>24591994
the ultimate boogeyman

>>24592450
Begone thot!!
Holokeks can watch their time slot taking over by niji bits by bits.

>>24592493
Why are they like this?

>>24592455
Yeah she could very well be an afternoon streamer. It’d explain why her viewership climbs up as it gets closer to primetime. More people getting out of work on west coast, people finishing up their obligations and such

>>24592556
not gonna ask you to watch the stream but, they already finish the game and want play more

>>24578238
jwu, this just fuels more fire to my theory that NijiEN is going for group pushes instead of individual liver performances, because you'd need the SCs to still keep coming in even when 90% of their content become collabs.

Everyone give a round of applause to Laplus Darkness, for she streamed a grand total of 40 minutes

>>24592655
yeah we KNEW THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN
this should have been a MC stream from the very beggining
FUCK OPERATION TANGO THERE WAS NO REASON TO FINISH IT.

>>24592655
Oooo
I tune in late so thats what happened
T. Different anon

>>24592711
LMAO, I love her. This brat needs correction.

>>24592791
I wanna say muh dixck but my FBI are watching me

>>24589335

>>24592711
she just said don't want eat alone tho,

>>24592711
Truly a hololive superstar

>>24592912
kek who made this shit? i hope it's posted on that twitter thread.

https://youtu.be/dHGM8bZ0qfg
https://youtu.be/injd7gHrIGU
What exactly went wrong with Chloe? For a holo that is somewhat focused on music, her covers and orisongs are doing very badly.

>>24592912
The image is missing Nijisanji Taipei and Nijisanji Shanghai

>>24592990
people dont like her real voice

>>24592990
her first few song releases being tiktok length shit really filtered people from checking out songs she releases. That shit pissed me off too.

>>24592711
she just wanted to eat a borger with the viewers

>Imagine all those balls hitting the girl's faces
IRyS please...

>>24590499
I genuinely can't say if you're serious os not so I'll give you a serious reply that reddit really doesn't matter

>>24592990
The orisongs is because she releases a short version instead of the full (Idk if she has talked about this before, but I guess she's releasing an album with all the full versions later)
Regarding this cover, idk

>>24592990
yeah that's what you get for baiting with your short half songs

>>24593149
I hope so. The short versions she has released sound amazing and just make me hungry for the full version.

>>24592455
Pretty sure Fauna is East Coast.

>>24592990
considering her music stuff was on the range of 20k views on her PL she must be happy with those views

redditor only watch clip isnt

>>24591994
they dont care they just want to enforce a no parasocial aspect because of all the negative buzz its associated with and be on the "right side". its honestly the sanest take from them but at the same time Hololive is not the sanest streamer group, its literally an exclusive all girls stream group that has 90%+ male audiences who latch on for many reasons that wouldnt be healthy for solid chunks especially the paying bunch, and for the girls some might end up latching back to their more dedicated base the members.

and for the record im all for keeping membership tab/streams more exclusive with the girls who want it that way.

>>24593269
The thing I don't understand is that "parasocial" shit started with regular fucking streamers and still goes on with regular fucking streamers and no one seems to have an issue with this but when it's vtubers it's bad

>>24589335
Looks like the niji subreddit is getting some activity because of this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/uthpco/luxiem_half_anniversary_goods/

>>24589335
Why would you prioritize the girls when it comes to merchandise?

Who do you think will sell more merch, Luca or Petra, Ike or Millie, Vox or Elira?

>>24593269
>>24593324
because only vtubers have gotten canceled because of parasocial shit, as in Rushia. The 3d girls have parasocial shit but their antis can't cancel them.

>>24593324
is literally because normalfags learned the term Idol culture, and when they do a 5 minutes google search the first thing they see is a bald girl crying

The guy who temporarily took over for the holosong ranking videos is requesting for Hololive fans to vote for their favorite 3 Holo original songs. He'll be compiling the results and do a video highlighting the results. Just need to put a comment on the video below with your favorite 3 Hololive original songs with a sentence or two saying why you like it. Comments in English will be counted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05-emV6XKDM

>>24593403
Rushia didn't fucking get cancelled because of parasocial shit, people were STILL defending her until Cover shitcanned her for being a retard and leaking info

>>24592711
The next face of holojp!

>>24593387
Well
Enjoy the backlash
Its not just about money zhang,

>>24593486
ive talked to people as early as last week that still think she got canned because mafumafu messaged her and not because of the stuff that ensued afterwards

>>24588156
hey man

>>24593486
nigger, why do you think it was a controversy in the first place? because of parasocial unicorns.

>>24592990
Holy kek that's fucking depressing but she got SCs out the ass anyway. Can't have em all I guess.

>>24593568
All she had to do was pretend it didn't happen. It is the easiest fucking out for any content creator; just pretend it never happened, and everything would've blown over. It's her fault entirely.

>>24593269
The funniest thing is that the membership thing is about parasocial but from another side.
Vtubers can have a parasocial relationship with their fanbase too. There is a reason they share more private things on membership that only can be shared with people that they can trust

>>24593486
Tell that to the retarded EOPs who still think she got fired for having a boyfriend.

>>24591284
>gatekeeping
no it's paid content. what kind of retarded reasoning is this? most girls even say that you don't need to member/SC to be a good fan

>>24593608
>>24593619
why do you think she leaked shit and started drama in the first place though? to keep her parasocial unicorns

>>24593578
>130k views in a day
>fucking depressing
You faggots have number rot. Those are fine numbers.

>>24592711
Don't worry, Cover makes sure to shoehorn her in all sorts of sponsorship streams. She's their favorite amongst holox. Check the main channel.
>>24592990
Chloeschizo won...

>>24593480
It's just gonna get voted on by hoshikeks who actually care about this stuff.

>>24593692
Nigger even Orca was saying he'd still follow her up until she got fired. She would've kept them easily had she either shut the fuck up and waited for it to blow over, or continue streaming like nothing happened.

>>24593618
It's not different with Costco memberships. It's not like you can't shop at Costco without memberships

>>24593336
All these holokeks pretending they are nijifans…
Jesus…

>>24593336
It's pretty funny the comments are either
>What the fuck anycolor, show love for the girls
or Luxiem fans going
>I understand you're upset, but Luxiem is way more popular so it makes sense

Do Bae and Moona not know they can announce they're playing Minecra?

>>24593713
In these parts, anyone who isn't half a Suisei/Gura/Mori is considered a failure

>>24593149
>>24593170
>>24593192
There're no "short versions". That's exactly the original length of the songs. She cheaped out and opted to write her songs by herself instead of commisioning actual professionals.

>>24593802
ame is a bad influence on the girls.

>>24593801
This is going to drive whatever support the girls have left to the ground.
I also wonder what NijiEN girls feel about this, those who are not actively sucking up to the guys of course.

>>24593753
Don't be reasonable, anon. Anti-idol redditors ITT are just as schizo as the schizos that sign up for GFE streamers.

>>24593841
>She cheaped out and opted to write her songs by herself instead of commisioning actual professionals
Wow, that makes it more impressive. I legit think her songs sound fucking great. Hopefully she does expand on them and releases something as a full version.

>>24593753
well, look at matsuri's hand yab and towa's male voice yab, what do you think she expected? obviously she's still retarded though

>>24593943
>well, look at matsuri's hand yab
???
Guess what happened, she streamed like normal and nothing happened. The Towa yab was her dumb fault for saying it was a cover staff.

>>24593801
I love the ''Nijisanji has no favoritism is all about demand'' cope, Niji always had favoritism

>>24593841
Isn't that better? Literally the idol journey right there.

>>24593900
Nijien boys are fucking hard carrying these whores.
How the fuck would they complain about it?
The boys deserve these.

>>24593983
Saying it's all about demand IS favoritism lmao

Its never... fucking cross my mind that kobo would actually appear here
Its just coincidence i know
https://youtu.be/_ICc722Nt34

you see posts like these >>24593991 and then you remember that faggot that spent like an hour writing walls of text about what's wrong with them just leeching for numbers

>>24593713
Isn't she a better singer than Ina? For her to underperform this badly in comparison is nothing short of embarrassing.

>>24593735
This. The comments section is full of Suisei. Pisses me off, I did put mogu, palette, and doggy god but I don't expect any of these to get many votes.

>>24593568
>>24593692
nah she blew shit out of proportion. mafu mafu took a lot longer to make a response to all that and he seemed to be much less affected than she thought she was gonna be. I don't think she did anything with malicious intent, probably very stressed on top of already having a few loose screws, but for her laying low on the start and ignoring it until a proper response could be made was ideal

>>24593943
>what do you think she expected
Anon, Rushia whole over reaction was mostly coming from the mafumafyu side.
Her own fans were well behaved as fuck while Mafumafu fujos, a very rabid fanbase, was about to tear both of them up because the message pretty much confirmed the rumors that they were not only an item but also living together.
>it didn't, but in their minds it did

Rushia did everything she did mostly to try to save Mafumafu career, not herself.
Had it been *any* other guy messaging her she would have shrugged it off.

>>24594134
mafu got PR speak response thrown up, rushia couldnt wait for covers ass for a whole weekend as it happened right as the weekend hit iirc so she went to fucking japanese keemstar to try clear her name like a retard, a literal blacklisted eceleb by Cover

>>24594042
Wait what, Kobo is popular with white people as well? She doesn't even pander!

>>24594209
Considering korekore had a literal schizxo who thought hololive members were stalking him on as a big scoop it makes Rushia look even more retarded.

>>24594114
not really. they're about the same skill wise. ina's voice is just not for everyone but takos really like it.

>Bae and Moona has actually been playing MC for 30 minutes now
Ah.. pain… the numbers…

>>24594249
The tech review guy in the vid is a well known weeb. It's not hard for someone like him to come across Hololive or Kobo.

>>24594209
she still should have waited more. like other people said even some or her gachis like orca said they were going to follow her still

>>24594114
>better singer
>numbers thread
and ina has been a way more consistent chuuba on numbers since forever. the lowest song she is involved is higher than chloe and even her karaoke numbers are better

>>24593715
>She's their favorite amongst holox
Is she? I see Laplus even more than Chloe, she's in just about every official Cover project and collab. I would even say it's so frequent that her actual streaming content is suffering from it.

>>24594198
Last time a mafumafu message showed up on her stream she just privated the stream and ignored it. Makes me wonder why she didn't have that sort of wisdom a few months ago.

Also that anon is right, mfmf uses parasocial shit hard so in the end Rushia still fell by parasocial shit.

>doomposting about chloe after she got fucking 90k for her bday and it's been explained several times that she's literally fishing for a tiktok hit by spamming short shit
you guys are replying to a schizo btw

>>24594254
What got Rushia fired was not even just this event. By KoreKore account himself, she contacted him all the way back in 2021 offering him scoops (as some sort of dead hand for her) that NOT EVEN HE HIMSELF WOULD TOUCH, a guy that takes info even from legit schizos
Cover finding this out when they scanned her work accounts for previous communications with him must have been the reason

>>24593534
What is it about then? It's not like the girls were getting merchandise before the boys debuted and now they are getting ignored.

The only reason that Nijisanji EN didn't go the way of Nijisanji KR and Nijisanji ID is because Luxiem was a massive success, a far bigger one than Anycolor expected.

>>24593991
>See the girls get unfair treatment
>Want to talk back
>Realize Luxiem are bringing more money for the company than 3 female waves in a year, hence Anycolor favoritism.
>The only choice left is to shut the fuck up and cope with "Surely the girls will have their merch and big sponsor collab soon"
Kek, being Nijifemale fan is even worse than being a cuck.

Kronii is contemplating being a whole ass bitch and taking up Fauna's timeslot

I heard Mumei was able to turn off member gifting. Is this true?

>>24594276
Get your ears checked anon. Chloe isn't the best holo singer, but she's definitely better than Ina.

>>24594042
This guy had one with ayame before

>>24594474
i didnt see her get any gifted subs during her short now privated POV of Fauna Mumei collab so maybe ?

>>24594401
It's definitely the Chloe schizo, randomly bringing her up out of nowhere all the time.
Also it's time for numberfags to accept that some chubbas aren't meant to get big numbers for their music stuff, be it because the lack of shilling or just how mediocre their songs are in general

>>24594474
No, she just told her hoomans not to gift memberships, I still had the option to gift even as a viewer who was gifted.

>>24594502
That's because no one was doing it, but it was possible. I should've done one as a test.

>>24594445
If you enjoy female vtubers and actively choose to watch Manjisanji over Hololive you are just a pure contrarian. There is nothing there for you and you will always be cucked for their real cash cows, the boys.

>>24594455
What, like permanently? What a complete cunt.

>>24594445
Always remember Luna...

Saw a comment that the Luxiem goods, puppets specifically, would be be shipped sooner and they actually are.
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/u81ff2qn629c
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/ck0wq76pw

>>24594436
Here you go anon
>>24594445
>>24593801
>>24593983

>>24594420
>a guy that takes info even from legit schizos
And Rushia isn't?

All jokes aside, Rushia's info was probably a mix of babble and shit that would get him sued. It's funny how Cover seemed on Rushia's side completely at the start saying they don't police personal lives and have her featured in hologra.

i love Nui because she kinda outcast herself and somehow unlike other nijisanji streamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISp3tGrVYo

>>24594561
>late aug for luxiem
>mid sept for lazulight

>>24594554
She wants to "accommodate EU" Actual fucking horseshit since that's midnight anyway

Okay since they are a lot of holo faggots in this thread like >>24594445

Where do you think Nijisanji EN would be right now if Luxiem didn't debut. Do you remember the viewers the girls were getting? Do you remember the crash right after Ethyria debuted?

You must remember since you are the same niggers that used to mock the girls because of their numbers. Do you think that they would survive, that Nijisanji EN would surive, if instead of 5 guys they had 3 girls debut in December last year? What do you think the numbers of the branch would look like?

>>24594552
Seriously

Luna set the example for what all females in Manjisanji should do. Just join Hololive. Look how much more successful she is. I don't want any number brain rotted fags telling me Luna gets bad numbers either.

>>24594338
wtf haven't they changed their stream titles...

>>24594561
Holy shit. They're on sale 3 weeks after Lazulight merch AND ship sooner.

>>24594615
OMFG Isreal. Shit is just sad

>>24594600
i agree. nui tits are good

>>24594209
>rushia couldnt wait for covers ass for a whole weekend
Anon, she couldn't wait for even 2 fucking hours, if korekore's timeline is anything to go by.

>>24594579
>no argument
holonigger detected

>>24594615
>>24594561
Oh my god this is hilarious. It would get under a normal fan's skin, but I'm getting massive satisfaction from all the nijibeggars on this board who are probably seething about it the most.
Months of enduring their retarded shilling and chemistry cope only to have their branch overtaken by literal prostitutes worse than vshojo who talk about their bussies, who are immediately treated as royalty compared to their gen 1. Can there be a greater victory than this?

>>24594600
Anon...
Wtf is this??
>7k watch
>40 mins in
>less than 1k likes?????????

>>24594679
do yo remember the OG EN?

>>24594679
They should have just debutted guys in the first wave

>>24590499
the JP girls don't seem to kind gifted memberships right? I hope some of these people get those. they're in for a rude awakening about parasocial content

>>24594198
>>24594209
the parasocial shit was still the trigger, you can say it was her response which lead to her firing, which is true but ultimately being fired started from the fact that she indulged in being parasocial. Comparing with the fact that not a single 3d female streamer has had any huge controversy over males (Pokimane and Amouranth have both streamed with males). You can see the difference.

>>24594389
>parasocial
The use of this word is like 9 years olds when they learn their first curse word
>what the hell!
>hell hell hell hell
>this is hell
they use it to pepper their sentences even when it makes zero sense.

Being interested to a fictional character and caring for its well being, becoming happy when it's happy, sad when it's sad and getting involved in the "plot" is what makes good drama good.
Now, there are obvious retards that take that to the next level and genuinely think they are in a meatspace relationship with the character. These are the absolute minority be it in the vtuber scene and in the entertainment scene as a whole.

But retards use "parasocial" in the context of
>having real feeling evoked by fictional characters
Comfort, happiness, sadness, to have feelings evoked is the whole point of fiction.
Kids got really fucking sad when Optimus Prime got killed in the Transformers but that doesn't put them into a "parasocial" relationship with the character.

I wish people would reserve that word for the actual schizos instead of for anyone that is invested in the plot

>>24594743
>Blindchama nijikek refuse to read
Yup, the absolute retard

>>24594689
Most of the girls in Nijisanji wouldn't get offered a position in Hololive these days.
Luna lucked out by being the only person to get transferred when Hololive was still relatively small.

>>24594758
umamusume tourists
nothing new

>>24594758
>like ratio
when are you going to drop this bullshit

>>24594679
Oh nyoo NijiEN was only the third most popular EN vtuber corporation, and only the most succesful Niji side branch. You're honestly acting like these women didn't, for better or worse, take up a nice little chunk of EN vtubing mindshare and they don't deserve some basic fucking respect for it.

>>24594679
WTF are you talking about, did numberot eat your brain? Even a fucking 500 CCV streamer was able to live comfortably, let alone a vtuber with fan notoriously known for throwing donation left and right.

>>24594679
>10 chuubas averaging 1k-2.5k viewers
Yeah, 100% they'd survive. They more than broke even and landed a few sponsorships. What would have happened is they'd remain on the back back burner.

>>24594758
gacha tourists

>>24594758
>think nips will hit like button
this is what happen if 100% nips watch your stream

>>24594758
I don't see anything except some tits.

>>24594679
i'm not disagreeing with you, but it's still fucking funny that they still gets treated likes 2nd class citizens.

>>24594828
>>24594821
And no fck shit dropped a like?
Are JOP like button hard to press or something?

>>24594795
Eh pekora seems fine with it since she doesn't really do that much membership content.

>>24594791
I agree, instead of 2 all-girl waves they should have debuted 1 all-girl and 1 all-boy wave. But that doesn's answer the question.

We would be in the same spot that we are now. With the girls having 1-2K median because no audience in NA would care about them because they watch ONLY Hololive and the boys would get 5-10K because the asian female demographic would take an interest in them, just like they did with Luxiem and, in a lesser degree, Noctyx.

>>24594765
>the OG EN
You mean Nijisanji ID? What about them?

>>24594912
they are astonishingly autistic about the engagement buttons

>>24594912
Yes. Yelling like and subscribe actually works, how surprising!

>>24594801
What mfmf did was textbook parasocial. Also I ain't reading your novel.

>>24594929
i can see it not being a problem for girls who dont treat their members too much differently, like I can see Fauna from EN being overall fine with gifting since her membership isnt really anything.

>>24594679
>Where do you think Nijisanji EN would be right now if Luxiem didn't debut.
They would be much worse.

What does have to do with the post you linked, >>24594445, talking about favoritism?

These girls fans' butthurt whining are start to annoying me…
All I can say is
Success breeds jealousy

>>24593786
NIjiseethe

>>24594935
>You mean Nijisanji ID
o...okey. not gonna ask anything

>>24594912
anon, when people say that nips dont have the habit of pressing the like button is a legit thing

>>24594912
we already did this discussion a thousand times.

The funniest part about that schizo is that he was wrong, she never even passed the guerilla stream let alone the first one.

>>24594679
You fucking retarded piece of shit. If not for the 3 girls wave and Luxiem instead is the 1st group for NijiEN you think anyone would watch, create clips or meme those faggots ? All of their RM are literally 0 view twitch streamer, failed coombait streamer, or random fat fuck. The NijiEN girls got it rough but they atleast create a solid base for those faggots before chinks even know about them. And now they're being treated like disposable toys.

>>24595013
Holobros... perhaps I treated you too harshly...

>>24595004
>like I can see Fauna from EN being overall fine with gifting
You don't watch her or her member streams then.

>>24594959
I'm not talking about mfmf anymore, but the general use of "parasocial". Retards throw it around in a context it does not belong.

End of concert, girl addresses the audience
>Minna! Aishiteru yo!
>Thank you, coming! I love you!

Retards
>SEE SEE! PARASOCIAL! PARASOCIAL!

It's an overused word.

it's so funny to see small versions of the dramas nijijp has gone through on nijien, can't wait for one of the homos to slip up and mock the girls' fans

>>24594852
>>24594856
Are you new around here? Were you around the LazuLight, Obsydia and Ethyria debuts? I think I am talking to a bunch of newfags.

>>24594866
1K viewership with no sponsorships and merchandise (because Anycolor is incompotent) while being a CORPO is a good enough audience to survive? Why are you such a lying nigger?

Pomu would still be a wagie, Reimu and Nina would be streaming in front of 400-500 people.

AND more girls would be debuting every 2-3 months until every girl would be a 3-view and the branch would face the same fate as KR and ID.

>>24594911
That's how Anycolor works for better or for worse (for worse IMO). The streamers that bring the most revenue also get more merch and spotlight.

>>24594795
What are normalfags gonna do when a holo they thought wasn't doing that sort of thing is blowing kisses, saying I love you, and that it's fine to think of them as a GF in members streams?

>>24590709
But I remember the real halfyear goods where plushies? no?

>>24594042
Hololive will grow larger

>>24595091
Holocope seething

>>24595090
i literally do though? shes never felt biased towards members and her member streams are kinda just like usual comfy fauna but amped up.

>>24595160
>1K viewership with no sponsorships and merchandise (because Anycolor is incompotent) while being a CORPO is a good enough audience to survive?
Funny because Nijifags coped with this exact argument >>24594856 for the longest time, and now that a more successful wave arrived the argument suddenly changes

>Nijisanji should give the girls the same treatment when it comes to merchandise as the boys.

>>24594581
I mean they didn't have reasons to police their personal lives until possibly now. one thing that people don't understand is that this type of relationship is built on trust and is kinda molded by both parts, for example rushia gave them a precedent to be more controlling but if they get too controlling they might create "distrust" on the girls

>>24595241
Vox Sama I kneel...at least you make me laugh, please get your outfit faster than the other girls

>>24595241
Who ?

>>24595010
The post goes mostly to the faggots that think that the girls and their fans should complain.

The more popular the streamer the more frequent the merchandise (since the more popular Nijis can sell more merchandise, it's not rocket science).

>>24595166
probably cry more in reddit. all of that is assuming they will actually watch streams

ITS TIME FOR KING TO TAKE THE GOLD

>>24595084
>>24595274
The most popular Niji EN girl btw.
Rope yourself, nigger.

>>24595241
Yeah we're the ones seething lol
Perhaps this concept is foreign to a chink, but its sad to see a horrible fate befall a rival, even if you traded blows in the past

>>24595274
I don't think people in this thread are suggesting they should, just pointing out they don't and dunking on the receiving end of this poor bargain

Actually that was one of the speculations from the start
>Luxiem will flop and NijiEN fans will get dunked on that account
>Luxiem will succeed, manjisanjiEN will form and NijiEN fans of the girls will get dunked on that account

>>24595160
being in niji is better than being an indie sure, but they will be dissatisfied by the management sooner or later (like melissa, luna, and others) and eventually leave.

>>24595434
Isn't Nina the most popular NijiEn girl, having knelt to the fujos?

It's time to make another bait thread

>>24595271
I don't care about all the bait that's posted in these threads. The point is that the branch would be half-dead by now without Luxiem.

>>24595417
He'll probably slip again. For that is the fate of the Silver King

>>24595417
he really needs to step up his game and get some kills, 32k for a CR cup scrim is dissapointing.

>>24595500
Just eliminate EN and add CN just for them only