/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

damn vshojo inclining hard

>>2430338
Gundou is actually more degenerate than most of the vshojous

>>2430338
>no hololive
NOT LIKE THIS BROS

>>2430338
I'm pretty sure Nijis Holos and even VOMs have collabed with AI already

>>2430387
This is good for hololive

>>2430367
Yeah, I’m impressed. Last year was big for Hololive but this year seems like VShojo will take the crown.

>No zentreya or hime
I consider this a win

>>2430472
AI collabs with literally everyone.

>>2430533
yea, it's unironically the better half of vshojo

>>2430472
I think only Sora has ever done a proper collab with Ai, outside of concerts where Ai and holos just happened to be at together.

Literally who are these people?

>>2430533
Hime knows Japanese at least. Could be translating for them.

>>2430482
remember when gura said "people still play that game?"

>>2430338
HOLOBROS HOW COULD THIS BE? NOT EVEN A SINGLE EN?

>>2430636
Gura is still salty after all these months huh

>>2430675
more like silolive

>>2430636
Gura actually getting angry at being voted out and forcing everyone to apologize for playing the game was the worst cringe I've ever seen. Imagine wanting to play a few rounds of among us and having to apologize to a bitchy shark girl for voting her.

Maybe they'll leech onto Jimmy Fallon ang play Among Us with him and the cast of Stranger Things.

>Siro
>I remember when she was above 700k. Now she is at 694k.
Every time I go back to check, it looks like she just loses more subscribers than she gains.

It's still so nice to see my girl siro still being so active. She was one of the first VTubers i watched back in 2018

>>2430788
Watch it happen again when the japs keep voting mousey out over and over just because of her voice.

>>2430636
She got dabbed on so hard by the JP girls in that one among us collab that she tilted on stream, she still hasn’t recovered to this day.

Nijisanji should of sent Mito or Gundou.

>>2430338
So how is this gonna work?
Are they all gonna speak English?

Coco and Mori understand that Hololive's reluctance to collab with VShoujo will be its downfall. That's why Mori is becoming an indie once her contract is over and why Coco is starting to stream more and more on her roommate's account.

>>2430910
Sukoya would've been better since she's pretty fluent in English.

>>2430883
Gura has a strange kind of autism about these things. Like when she got upset to the point of crying over the fact she couldn't play the meme shark game very well when literally not a single person watching gave any shits about her skill playing it.

>Holofags already Coping
Don’t shit on this when Mori did the trash taste podcast which is probably the worst thing you can be on.

>>2430959
why are doxxbraps like this?

>>2430963
No no, don't do her like that. She's so talented and smart.

>>2430983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrewq9pX9fU
there's worse

>>2430983
3/4ths of /vt/ and /hlg/ hate mori because she's a wigger just chasing clout

You guys have to think of this like a business. Nobody in Japan is aware of Vshojo beyond it's name. Nobody in the west is aware of Nijisanji beyond it's name. For both of these groups, it's a win-win recognition wise, especially for Nijisanji who've been pining for more western recognition for a while. This'll make both groups incline quite a bit, regardless of your feelings on Ny*nners or Vshojo as a whole.

Hololive bros how can we defeat VShojo?

>>2430983
>coping
AI can't collab with holos because of china btw newfag

>>2431134
chaturbate streams

>>2430338

Tf is this lineup? where's Holoen?

HoloEN barely collab with their own coworkers from other branches, you think Yagoo is gonna let them collab with outsiders?

>>2430831
Mousey is both the best and worst Anong Us player because she's incapable of lying to people. As crew, if you flat out ask if she's imposter she'll say no and it's always true. If she's imposter and you ask if she's imposter, she'll try to avoid answering. It's her biggest tell and why she tries very hard as imposter to be as low key as possible.

>>2431157
>holoen
Irrelevant to the world of vtubers

>>2431247
>Calli
>top itunes artist

>Gura
>most subscribed holo

These two alone completely shit over every other EN vtuber combined

>>2431308
Dead subs mean literally nothing

this reeks of chinese influence, can't blame AI, she must prefer holos but forced to get vshojo to appease the bugs, you must know this will get simulcasted in bili-bili

>>2431355
AI is a huge Lamy fan.
Must hurt her to know she can never collab with Lamy.

>>2431353
What? Even on a bad day Gura has more viewership than any vshojo

>>2431308
>itunes
kek call me when it's google play music
>>2431355
cope holoturd

>>2430338
NIJIKEKS PANDERING TO TWITCHNIGGERS HAHAHHAHAHAHA.

>>2430634
>Hime knows Japanese at least. Could be translating for them.
Mouse and Nyan probably know enough Japanese for a basic understanding at least. Dunno about Froot and Vei.

>>2431452
Miko streams on Twitch, what's your point?

>>2431157
AI is currently working for chinks and chinks hate holos

>>2431130
I mean Niji only has 1 person there so it isn't really the same. If it was half-Niji half VShojo I would agree but no ones gonna care about just Kaede.

>>2430910
Deron is fun too.

>>2430338
Cry more holofags. Only you retards are missing.

>>2431452
do holofags really?

>>2431484
Even just a shoutout from Nyanners like "... and here we have Kaede from Nijisanji!" could do wonders. Baby steps.

>>2431144
Except Niji has a china branch and can still? That rrat has no evidence to support it. Ai just doesn't care about hololive that much and she may have not even been the one to set it up.

>>2431130
I mean, that's more for vshoujo than anything considering it's only Kaede from niji in there. But you have a sounding logic anyway.

>>2431542
Niji is pretty detached from its China branch. They're just investors and Bilibili runs the show.

>>2431431
not coping, just logical thinking, there's no other reasonable reason for AI to not pick holoEN to expand overseas, unless blocked by chinese investors. I don't even hate vshojo, they're just the second best choice considering hololive's relationship to china

>>2431494
Any holofag who thinks the godess will collab with hololive after Coco insulted china is retarded

>>2431144
>>2431542
I think this is a good time to drop this.

>>2431144
This rrat doesn't make much sense when Nijisanji collab with hololive and their members have bilibili accounts much like Virtual Real, co-owned by Ichikara and bilibili

>>2430338
But seriously though why no HoloEN?

>>2430959
Good riddance to both of them.

>>2431614
Based rrat killer

>>2431600
While bilibili manages Virtual Real, Ichikara do have a huge amount of shares to the point Virtual Real is on their site. It's the two other projects where they don't own anything, as one is a network and another is just famous chinese people in vtuber avatar.

>>2431144
AI is still pissy that Cover poached Nobuhime from them.

>>2431645
You can thank Coco for that

>>2431614
where is this from?

>>2430338
AI-CHAN!!! SIRO!!!!

Fuck, I would be so excited for this if fucking Niggershitty wasn't involved. I refuse to watch anything involving that fucking company or it's dreadful talents. Fucking hell, this would have been fun too.

>>2431709
AI is owned by chinese now.

>>2431144
>Chinese Boogeyman
Give it a rest already

the best explanation is AI originally want to include holoen but seeing nyanners and ironmouse participates, enma refused it

https://youtu.be/3Srr55vjt70
WATCH DAISENPAI

>>2431793
>boogeyman
ok newfag

>>2431749
You hate Nijisanji more than Vshojo? Why?

>>2431749
There he is, the vyt schizo. How do you manage to be so easy to spot even when anonymous?

>>2431645

>>2431793
hmmm? but it is the reason.

>>2431834
so dumb...

>>2430338
>siro
What the fuck? She is still around? Crazy. Haven't watched her in years.

>>2431807
>>2431835
>Its the reason When Cover Won't even let EN collab with Coco or say her name.
Blame EN's restrictive management.

>>2431834
Well she does make actual porn so there's that.

>>2431901
what's the problem with sex workers?

>>2431811
It's more that I'm indifferent about Vshojo. Don't like them but don't really have hate for them either, just overall don't care. Niggershitty on the other hand deserves all the hate they get.

>>2431943
So you just don't like vtubers?

>>2431463
Nyan does. Mousey is just talking about how she doesn't know enough to hold a conversation and wants to work on her Japanese for the collab. Froot I don't think speaks a lick and Veibae I have no idea on.

>>2431991
Are you brain dead? He said he hate Nijifaggots. What's not to understand?

>>2431991
No, I love vtubers. Watch a ton of them. Just hate Niggershitty.

>>2431932
Truth is Coco wanted a pornhub collab but management stopped her from acting like a strong independent western woman because they are a japanese company stuck in the past

holoshiteops can't cope they're irrelevant on the worldwide scale

>>2431527
>>2430338
>he doesn't know how desperate Nijisanji is for eops
https://youtu.be/O5_yLcTqa9Y?t=32

>>2431614
So the rrat is more about Vshojo rather than Ai

>>2432109
>holos are still the most superchatted
>pekola in that normiefag list of most viewed female streamers
baitchama...............

>>2430482
>This is good for hololive
how?

>>2432125
Always has been. Hell, fucking Ai even super chatted Lamy before. Hololive needs to make the Ai/Holo collab happen now.

>>2431709
Ai never interacted with nobuhime, or most upd8 for that matter lol

this does open the way for collabs between Vshojo and NijiEN when it launches

>>2431932
Everything

>>2431395
>>2432188
I don't get why AI likes Lamy she is the most boring of gen5

I see this as an absolute win? Why 4 vshojos though

>>2430497
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2432178
Only to the schizos on here who like to peddle narratives. I'm pretty much a hololive only watcher and even I can admit that this is bad for hololive. I think most people would agree that NijiEN doesn't have much of a chance to really compete with HoloEN, HOWEVER!!! Keeping HoloEN so sheltered by not letting them collab with other big name EN vtubers is the little hole that NijiEN could use to grab some of that success. HoloEN needs to do some of these collabs before NijiEN jumps in and steals it from them.

>>2432230
The rrat is that their roommates know each other.

>excluding the trannies
okay maybe i was wrong about vshojo, maybe they do have standards

>>2431793
t. zhang

>>2432109

>>2431932
They're bigger whores than the average woman.

>>2432294
>2. Peru
wait what

>>2430497
LOL

>>2430338
vyt sperg samefagging like a madman, ganbare based retard.

Kizuna did not do her research on the others...

>>2432245
It's not like there are many other choices for a half western / half japanese collab
the organizers would have liked to get a couple holoENs in there for sure but it is what it is

>>2430338
Siro keeps streaming? nice to see she is still around

>>2432397
Pikamee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQyc6mglqE
at least kaede doesn't have zero understanding of english

>>2432377
Anon... Its 2021, Kizuna AI is literally soulless corporate marketing/actions the chuuba.
She obviously can't work with holo EN considering they are about to put her into the grave.

>>2432125
Yeah, but not in the way you might think. There is a possibility VShojo is not wanting to do anything with Hololive after the Coco incident.

Melody is not a bad person, but she seems to be one who can hold a little grudge. The DigitrevX stuff needs no introduction, but lost in that is the active ignoring Melody did for YFU, which had nothing to do with YFU but her association with Digi. Now, Mel might have been justified in that because she wanted to avoid any kind of possible interaction with him, but Mousey and Silver also actively ignored YFU out of loyalty to Melody. Then there's the CodeMiko situation, where early on Miko (the producer) was hurting for money and had considered doing CB streams because Mel was doing them and the two even talked about it, with the latter giving the former advice. Miko eventually didn't do it, but flat out insulted Melody in the process by claiming that she (Miko) had more self respect than to do that. As a result, it has been said that Miko has tried to get VShojo girls on as interviews but none will take her up on the offer. And finally, we have this, where Coco did nothing wrong, but Cover still decided that, in a rebuke of Coco for even mentioning Melody, Cover more or less put Melody on a blacklist. While nothing has ever been said publicly about this as far as I know, I am sure Melody was not amused and if that is how Cover wants it, then that is how Cover is going to get it. Basically, the VShojo girls (and no this isn't just Melody but I can't cite any other examples of beef that carried over to the rest of the group) stick to their teammates and if one of them is slighted, all of them are slighted.

This is just a rrat, but there is a pattern here. Insult VShojo and they're not going to take that lightly.

>>2432472
>soulless corporate marketing/actions
Are you implying hololive isn't the same?

>>2432498
They are perfect for twitch!

>>2432498
Except that isn't true considering what happened after that like Ollie and Mouse or Nyanners and Mori talking on twitter. Clearly not the same ignoring happening.

>>2432522
All corporations are soulless to an extent, Kizuna AI's owner is nearly the worst to exist. The many things upd8 has done with her and other talents in a way only a soulless corporation can do things is the only reason she isn't still king of the chuuba world.
You literally see her with the most subs, around the longest. Yet don't question why most of the original fans bailed, like a pleb.

>>2432498
that's a pretty deep rrat
almost all the vshojos are on record about liking the girls from hololive and wanting to collab with them at least

>>2430338
Finally, what took so long for VShojo to get Nijisanji collabs? Is it hyping up for NijiEN ?

>>2432272
Collabs with Vshoujo are not gonna happen unless Cover higher ups change their mind, there is a reason why they are making Vsinger and EN2 debut before gen 6.
Also at this point if someone who is into vtubes dont watch EN is because they dont want to and a collab wont change that. Both appeal to different types of audience, if NijiEN is going to steal something it would be Vshoujo´s audience

>>2430338
Oh hey that's pretty cool. The only one I dislike on that banner is Nyanners for her hypocripsy. Does Haneru speak english? Maybe they should have gotten Rene!

>>2432565
It's not a perfect narrative, and people talking publicly isn't the same thing as business cooperation. Note how many VShojo publicly sent Calli birthday wishes (and which ones didn't, one in particular) and Ollie never mentioned her either. Polka avoided saying Melody as well. We know Cover didn't want any association before with Melody, and they're still deliberately pretending she doesn't exist (and all of their talents are as well). Why would VShojo do anything to help HL on a business sense when they actively treat one of the principle members as if she were dead?

Nobody in VShojo has a problem with the individual talents of HL (as far as we know). Melody doesn't blame Coco for this I'm sure. But VShojo is probably just as willing to give HL the middle finger as HL is giving them.

>>2432653
Very likely. It seems that Nijisanji is bringing out the big guns in order to pander to the west, including potentially getting an original song from Porter Robinson.

>>2432121
Yes, they are so desperate that only two of 103 vtubers did anything. And the other branches like ID still mostly speak indonesian, KR still mostly speak JP and so on.

>>2430338
Looks like the stream is during Gura/Ame hours.

>>2432605
upd8 is dead, Ai's friend is CEO of her new company, and she still retains the title of Queen and Oyabun of the VTuber world.

>>2432686
>big guns
>including potentially getting an original song from Porter Robinson
LITERALLY WHO?

>>2432651
Holy shit, Calli is dead to me. Kiara is my oshi now.

>>2432686
>Porter Robinson.
who?

>>2432737
>>2432760
seems like a DJ, but yes pretty much the first time I hear his name

>>2432737
>>2432760
Ironic weebs love him. He made this song.
https://youtu.be/fzQ6gRAEoy0

weebs used to love him. The guy reclined ver since.

>>2430338
>NIJIKEKS
Deron is part of the roster

honestly hope nyanners flexes her japanese

I just want to know why the official art for vshojo is so fucking bad, just WHY?

>>2432801
I think he's trying to say that's a bad thing.

>>2430616
Sora wanted to be on the Fall Guys tournament with Ai-chan. But I think Ai-chan will never collab with Hololive since the china incident.

you people literally don't know anyone outside of poorly translated clips huh

>>2432605
Are you forgetting all the awful shit Cover has let happen to their talents?

>>2432838
I only jack off to vtubers

Nobody will ever care about Nijikeks. They have like 50 talents and nobody worth a fuck can name more than 3 of them.

>>2432498
Well said, but I also want to add that Melody is probably the "cleanest" of the Vshojo girls. As in, clean from drama where she's in the fault. She's genuinely a good-hearted person but perhaps a tad too naive to the point where Digi took advantage of it.
Nyanners had that thing about doing a violent 180 on her initial fanbase, only to debut as a lolibait character, and Froot had that drama about her cheating on her fiance. I think those are more yabai than Melody doing chaturbate streams honestly.

>Insult VShojo and they're not going to take that lightly.
I'll put it a different way: I don't want to associate with people who are mean to my friends

>>2432831
can you stop being so retarded anon? >>2431614

>>2430338
There's Niji in that image, Holoretard. Not that you know anyone outside your Holocuck bubble

>>2430583
It wasn't like that until very recently. She missed on almost all the big events and collabs of the Silver Age of Vtubers

>>2432740
anon, I...

>>2432831
Retard. Ai is no longer owned by the chinese. She owns her Kizuna Ai IP now, and plays her own characters.

>>2432864
Holofags love sticking their heads in the sand. You can see the same thing happen when they call vshoujo whores but forget all the whorish things holos have done

herohei is the holotards idea of somebody worth a fuck btw

>>2432899
Seriously. Pekora and Noel were (still are in Noel's case) titty streamer cam girls.

>>2432899
All women are whores anon. Vshojo whores are just bigger whores on account of being western whores.

>>2432890
The chinese Kizuna Ai is still active on bilibili and almost all of her recent events are simulcasted on that platform

>>2432914
Nobody knows who that is but you. Seethe more.

>>2432930
Which is the standard for about any big vtuber not from Hololive because of their fuck up. That doesn't mean she is "owned" by China you fucking mongoloid. Are HimeHina owned by China as well? How about Nijisanji?

>>2432864
Don't expect Ai-chan talking with Aki nor Matsuri. Ai-chan was on the Nico Vtuber fes with the holos and they didn't interact.

>>2432930
And Kizuna Ai Inc doesn't really have much, if anything, to do with Ai-ge. Ai-ge is managed by a Chinese company.

>>2432955
>Are HimeHina owned by China as well? How about Nijisanji?
Anon, I...

>>2432998
By that logic Hololive is the most Chinese of them all.

man.... that is some deep political shit right there........But I dont blame Mel on any actions although it looks like she is the center of attraction(the shit you said along with being on a dating stream with some major Youtubers like Wilburt and previous porn star mia malkova) and drama of the group, hence the abnormal amount of twitter followers but falling behind on twitch streams compared to mouse and nyan and of course impossible to surpass nyan on YT subscribers.

Happy V-shojo is like this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omy8eCBtG8o

>>2432955
Bending over to get fucked by China is more pathetic than being owned by China.

>>2433039
Hololive was the most chinese, they were in the past anon. Then the chinese threw an autistic tantrum because of how google deliver statistics

>>2433056
meant to respond to >>2432498

>>2430497
>take the crown
sorry who are they again? lol

Huh. I assume Hime will be like an 11th person: not joining the games but will be translating

Ai knows some basic English, I don't know if Siro, Kaede and Haneru do

>>2433078
Yeah, and then what, Tanigo bought it out?

>>2432294
Now do those kind of graphics for the best-selling video game franchises of all time to see if they will be the same as a google search.

>>2433107
Siro is able to speak in English. She used to greet overseas audiences on her VRLive streams

>>2431614
AEIIIIIIIIIIIII
EL EXTERMINATOR VAMANOS ! !

Is Siro still part of idolbu?

>>2433039
They were. Kizuna Ai, Niji's Virtuareal, or any bilibili affiliated Vtuber can't even be compared to Aqua or Fubuki's popularity.
That's why every level-headed chinese know this whole Coco incident basically flamed by bilibili to drove Hololive out from Chinese market.

>>2430497
I love all the holokids replying to this post as if Hololive is not declining hard. Pekora is the only one holding her ground. VShojo will be bigger than them in the west by the end of the year.

>>2432775
>>2432737
>>2432760
>not knowing that Robinson is a former /mu/tant
Holy fuck, newfags reign this board.

https://youtu.be/n4_-YldDHJU

>>2433198
Sounds like shit

>>2433184
What's Funny is that Hololive themselves are the reason they are declining. What did they expect after they made their content corporate friendly and safe. Not to mention Killing EN's growth completely by being super strict for no reason

>>2433198
Electronic music is for niggers. I only listen to idol music performed by the purest and most virgin of idols.

>>2433253
dont worry anon if vshoujo wants to grow too they will also go full corporate so better warn them to get games permissions before having an holocaust like cover

>>2433253
This is why I keep emailing Japanese companies about vshojo making money off their content.

why do holofags have to come screaming in every thread?

>>2433184
You can't be serious saying this. I probably like Vshoujo as much as you, but this is just delusional at best.
Don't you see how many sponsorship they got at this month alone? Heck, if you live in Japan you would be surprised at how much they known nowadays compared to 2019/2020. It used to be only Nijisanji and some Kizuna Ai that you'll ever see in Akihabara.

>>2431463
I don't know if Vei knows Japanese or is just using DeepL, but she has a decent chunk of JOP fans thanks to some dedicated JP clippers, and even appeases them a bit by posting updates in both English and Japanese

>>2432605
Cover literally had a manager harassing Mel.

Also, upd8 was just a project which AI isn't part since beginning of 2020 and she's owned by Activ8

>>2433428
Ahem, get your facts correct. That manager raped Mel, and Activ8 is a soulless corporation, Zhang.

>>2432857
The world don't revole around the west you fucking faggot

>>2432874
based

>>2433484
You will never be japanese.

so will Kizuna Ai's seiso purify Vshojo

or will Vshojo's epic pee pee poo poo humor corrupt Kizuna AI

>>2433553
I hope one day Kizuna AI talks about wanting to fuck her little brother too!

>>2433484
Not that anon, but it does when you're trying to break into that market. Niji-EN is a first attempt and making good waves with VShojo helps. As stated elsewhere, both sides benefit from exposure to the respective market. I think this will also eventually lead to HL-VS collabs. Niji-EN will be the intermediary, which also benefits Niji considerably.

>>2433575
Its a second attempt, remember those poor indians they relabeled to NijiEN.
Its not like they were even bad chuubas.

>>2433553
>>2433563
I hope that Vshojo whores ask kizuna if she's able to remember her bodycount and if she likes big black cocks.

>>2433575
>Hololive
>collabing with someone from VShojo
4 of them claim themselves to be sluts, one of them is an actual slut, two are irrelevant and IronMouse is the only that is safe from that overall hole.

>>2432740
kek

>>2433596
that was actually a sad and dick move in my opinion

>>2433639
Holy shit, Calli and Kiara are dead to me. Ollie is my oshi now.

>>2433553
>corrupt Kizuna AI
Yeah Kizuna AI will be the Trump bad loli bad vtuber one day just like the rest of Vsjws

>>2433639
>>2432740
jej glad i don't watch neither of them

>>2433639
I FUCKING HATE Veibae. Hypocrital bitch that got a tanty over getting rejected in the 2nd phase of her audiction for hololive.

>>2430497
Unironically that might be a bad thing for the fanbase, Vshojo was always different than Hololive in that its smaller communities felt more personal and friendlier, plus stuff like discord servers. At this rate, such communication will be a thing of the past.

>>2433774
>friendlier
Kek, you're definitely deluding yourself Vshill
They have the most toxic Twitturd community out of all vtubers

>>2433774
Vshojo fanbase is the worst cancer on earth. They're composed of all the twitter political activists tards that came from Tumblr.

Kizuna Ai should've brought on some lolitubers from the jp side and then proceed to spend the whole collab fawning over them.

>>2433882
>>2433817
Meds, now.

>>2433973
>>>twitter

Is there a reason everyone seems to be getting a big show aside from Silvervale? Even Melody has had a few earlier on before VShojo. She hasn't really said it but it's gotta hurt to be excluded like that allt he time. Even Zentreya made it into the Smosh guy's youtube vid.

>>2433774
>it might be a bad thing if we lose the
>vshojo
>discord
>servers
post axewound

>>2433596
That wasn't a real attempt

>>2433575
That's not the point. He was talking as if Nijisanji is irrelevant just because they aren't as popular in here as they are in Japan.

>>2432498
>And finally, we have this, where Coco did nothing wrong, but Cover still decided that, in a rebuke of Coco for even mentioning Melody, Cover more or less put Melody on a blacklist.
???
I have no idea how you came to that borderline schizophrenic conclusion, but actually Melody (and by association, Vshojo) is blacklisted for doing porn, not to punish Coco.

>>2433774
>>2433973
The Vshojo community is comprised of (political) schizos who attack Japanese artists and people minding their own business, and they are enabling them by supporting those types of retards and not telling them to piss off

>>2434057
You're trying really, really hard with this

>>2434107
he is right though

Imagine caring that Melody does porn. Imagine caring that anyone does porn.

ie, fuck Cover.

>>2434057
Meanwhile the Hololive community gatekeeps the fuck out of anyone who would even dare to think about doing that, and thus keep the social harmony
It's not even a reach, it's so obvious that even Nyanners supports those kinds of horrible people

>>2434057
>>2434107
The actions of a few fans do not represent the entire fanbase. HOWEVER, a lot of SJWs and tumblrites follow Nyanners after she made the post denouncing pomf. So it is fair to say that woke schizos are a good portion of her fanbase.

>>2434057
I don't care for most of vshojo outside of Mouse, but honestly that's bullshit. It seems like your taking Nyan's rant about lolicons and making it super vague and somehow placing the blame on all of their communities. But please, give some examples.

>>2434159
Ah you mean a bunch of retarded weebs claiming superiority because they know a few lines of japanese. Not to mention all the infighting they do within their own fanbase. Look at all the threads about kiara. They're literally the /v/ fanbase

>>2434107
>they hated him because he told them the truth

>>2434126
Give up leftist. No matter how hard you try, society will never accept literal whores as normal. Especially in the east where they didn't get poisoned by the tribe yet.

>>2430788
That sounds cringe as fuck anyone have a clip or timestamp

>>2433184
Show proof of decline and not daily or weekly.

>>2433605
>Ironmouse
>not a slut

Hoo boy you don't know shit. As a Mousefag let me just state that if you're worried about your oshi's purity levels or being stained by someone who can't keep her mouth shut about 'YABAI' shit then you don't want Mousey anywhere near your untainted fantasy. Mousey will have your oshi talking about the intricacies of Predator penises, whether or not they want to fuck Jigsaw, and pondering the physics of male testicles when dudes do a backflip.

Of course, Mousey does this all with an honest sense of wonder and curiosity, not just to be crass or vulgar. She legit wants to know these things. But it will happen. Hide your waifu.

>>2434198
but he is right about the community tho, most of the people that get featured in vtuber cringe compilations are vshojo stans

>>2434207
that sounds like nyanners to me

>>2434369
>vtuber cringe compilations
who

>>2434198
Mouse's community is shit lol. She has obsessed twitturds who attacks Japanese artists and hololive fans for something petty as loli. What that tells me is that the Nyanners' cancer community is infecting others as well.

>>2434051
Badly worded. I meant they rebuked Coco for mentioning Melody, and Coco made comments about not Melody being off limits in public >>2431834. Cover's goal was to blacklist Melody for doing porn and to keep Coco from associating with her which would damage their reputation (lost in this conversation is that I am not judging Cover for not wanting a porn star involved with their image; that's a business decision). I wasn't saying blacklisting Melody was a punishment to Coco. I hope that clarifies.

But oh boy does Mel do porn.

>>2434491
Which dosen't make sense Since what Noel and Mel from hololive do is pretty much porn as well.

>>2434491
post her porn right now

>>2433180
She never was

>>2434159
>Meanwhile the Hololive community gatekeeps the fuck out of anyone who would even dare to think about doing that, and thus keep the social harmony
Yet here we are in a thread that has nothing to do with Hololive that is somehow entirely about Hololive and shit is being thrown at other communities. Look in a mirror.

>>2434527
/vt/ was NEVER intended for vshojo retards to come in here with their ethots sluts, it was created mostly to contain holofans, nijishits, VOMS and your regular indies. If VShojo didn't even exist to begin with, no one would be talking about them. No one likes Vshojo outside of some minory, and that is mostly because how shitty the characters (NYANNERS MOSTLY) are actually.

>>2434295
>Show proof of decline but not this proof of decline

>>2434477
No, I've given Vshojo a thought and why everyone here has such a revulsion to them.
Its because we are getting zhang tier bait threads around 7pm est everyday.
In conjunction, vshojo fans are unironically by a majority just simply normies/a casual audience. Of course there are coomers, and various sorts. But they are outnumbered.
Vshojo is literally running on the casualization of vtubing media for mass consumption, and Kizuna AI collabing with them is symbolic of this attempt.

>>2434513
Some is still on PornHub the rest of her CB vods are on her OnlyFans (for free, she doesn't charge to view them). Go forth and fap. Or drop by /pmg/ on /aco/ if you want some screenshots.

>>2434507
I don't know what Noel and (HL) Mel do, but I am pretty sure they don't use a Lovense inside their pussy on screen, reaching up with their hands to shove a dildo down their throat while begging somebody to finger her.

And if they do, hey more power to them.

>>2434580
>If VShojo didn't even exist to begin with, no one would be talking about them
Well I can't argue with this flawless logic.

>>2433363
She uses DeepL, but she knows enough japanese to say hello and thank you.

>>2434527
It's always the same with holo fans, the moment some scandal happens they immediately go "niji this, chinks that"

>>2434592
Bad argument. Hololive is mostly comprised of normies as well. Toxic Twitter SJWs and clout chasers aren't the "norm" by a long shot, and Vshojo hasn't shown anything but support for them and enabling harassment of Japanese Artists.

>>2433319
do not worry holofag vshojo does not operate in japan also in the USA there is fair use law

>>2434507
What happens on the roommate channel stays on the roommate channel.

>>2434681
no for companies vtrannie, most streaming guidelines are focused on individuals

>>2434667
The main issue is that this board sprung from /jp/ which in the past ejected western vtubers into /trash/ (They still have a thread there)
Vshojo is still in /aco/ too.
So the majority of posters here simply just don't care for western vtubers, and even past that point they doubly don't like vshojo so its the perfect daily bait.

>>2434677
Oh and I don't mean to single out Vshojo streamers, I'm especially talking about its community as well. They are the worst out there.

>>2434677
I would say that is a bit off, autists, and weebs aren't exactly normies.
Normies enable toxic twitter SJWs and clout chasers because they have no fight in them, and it is what is societally correct right now.
Twitch also isn't helping because it doubles down on political correctness.

>>2434507
>comparing Mel's and Noel's rwgular tiddystreaming on their roomate identities to Melody actually shoving dildos up her pussy as Melody

>>2434514
Who am I thinking of then?

>>2434823
they are retards anon pls understand

>>2434828
.LIVE? Idolbu is a part of .LIVE and Siro/Baacharu/Merry are separate from it.

>>2434804
This is where you're wrong. Anime content is just as mainstream as video games nowadays. The people who whine, complain and kvetch about petty nonsense online are definitely not normies. Normies have better things to do than waste their time all day whining about video games, vtubers, anime or any fictional content. The ones who do are (ironic weeb) SJWs.

>>2431092
To be fair, that is a highly valid reason to hate someone.

>>2432498
>While nothing has ever been said publicly about this as far as I know, I am sure Melody was not amused and if that is how Cover wants it, then that is how Cover is going to get it.
She has talked about this in her Discord. She doesn't hold a grudge. She is aware that because she does porn that she gets excluded from things, makes her sad but she doesn't get mad over it as she knows its nothing personal and its just a business decision.

Hard agree about the holding a grudge against people who offend her though, Miko isn't the only one she actively ignores. I highly doubt she wants her friends blacklisting Miko or anyone, for her sake

>>2434507
>ASMR is porn
Look how stupid you are.

>>2431240
Cute

>>2434804
hey now, i'm a normie but we don't do any of that mentally ill social media attention seeking shit
we think those people are stupid, like everyone else

>>2434965
One of these days I should get on their discords. Maybe.

>I highly doubt she wants her friends blacklisting Miko or anyone, for her sake

She probably doesn't, but the girls are allowed to have their own free thoughts on the subject as well, and if they also don't like what Miko said then that's pretty much that. I, personally, think I understand what Miko meant, but she worded it really badly.

>>2430338
>not inviting the no.1 vtuber on twitch.

>>2435250
How is codemiko more popular than vshoujo?

>>2435250
She reclined hard, these days she got less viewers than ironmouse

>>2435250
cant believe codemiko is btfo of all vshoujo

>>2435250
>>2435276
Normie appeal. She's streamed with some of the biggest names on Twitch for interviews Mizkif, Ludwig, Esfand, Asmongold, HasanAbi, and a bunch of other people whose names you don't recognize but are bigger than most vtubers will ever be. Because of that, her audience is ridiculously varied, and she's got the benefit of appearing on LSF constantly as well. She's reached the point where she can probably just coast for years and doesn't actually have to try or play games like most streamers without the same appeal. All she needs to do is maintain and improve her virtual setup, which is easy for her since it's literally been her irl job. Weeb market is a debuff.

>>2435341
https://twitchtracker.com/codemiko

She has. Not that she hasn't had plateaus before (a rather suspiciously flat one at that) but she's starting to lose viewers. Probably because she's really not interesting at all beyond her tech and people are realizing that.

>>2433651
Anon...https://youtu.be/leC2IyytnOw

>>2435544
https://youtu.be/1xTRso6cL6E

>>2430338
Thank god holos are staying away from trannysh*jo

>>2430472
yup

>>2433651

>>2435341
Q1 she still btfo them.

>>2430367
Veiibae somehow had a huge jap following before Vshojo was even a thing
Think they're cashing that chip now

>>2433693
>Rrats still think someone of Vei's caliber would have to apply for Hololive
She'd lose out far more if she did the holo/niji/jap tradition of "abandon your former life and come with us". She's of a caliber that would be more akin to Suisei on a direct port, and i guess -if she was even approached- she didn't find it worthwhile

>>2435782
She was posted by this JP youtuber that posts and translates clips from large English streamers, that's what net her that audience initially. I believe she went from 300 viewers to over a thousand in just a week after that time.

https://www.youtube.com/c/ShinjiFromJapan/featured

>>2435531
I think the fact that she's streaming more and more with her IRL-self is making people bored of her. People did not give a fuck about her years ago when she was just another e-girl, why would they give a fuck now? People want to see the VTuber.

is 4chan some sort of guilty pleasure for every e-celeb? Even plebbit plays both ends when I see like 5-6 4chan subplebbits that just rename themselves to not be obvious 4chan windows like "green texts" "anon does x" or the like.

>>2435974
4ch*n isn't a pleasure for anyone, this website is trash and I hate all of you

>>2433184
Imagine thinking this after the amazing Hololive performances done at V-carnival. Vhoejo can never even touch Hololive in terms of reach or talent. One collab with AI means nothing yet you fags think its inclining, its obvious proof of how little you faggots understand when it comes to the scale of things.

>>2436026
Yet you're here.

>>2431614
Dang, Kaede is everywhere

>>2430338
what I need.

>>2431614
Wow, Hololive must be inclining hard!

>>2436153
Yes.

>>2430338
Deron... Not like this ..

YUA bros ....

>>2430636
Gura seethe kek

>>2431240
Based good Christian morals Demon queen

>>2430636
Oh no, chumbabies your oshi...

>>2432653
>Finally, what took so long for VShojo to get Nijisanji collabs?
but they've already done a Vshojo collab...

>>2433184
Nah, Vshojo are going to do well in the west, but the boost from Holo EN2 is probably going to wipe them out. Though the holos tend to hit high numbers but lack retention.

>>2436704
>but the boost from Holo EN2 is probably going to wipe them out.

Probably should wait until people know who EN2 is going to be before making that bold prediction. There aren't many HERs to snag anymore with giant preexisting followings to help headline it. HL-EN has its fans, and EN2 will automatically get a good chunk of them just by virtue of being HL, but whether those new talents grow or not is going to heavily depend on who Cover picked. To be fair, Cover has done a very good job of finding / molding talents, but they've had some dogs too.

>>2432680
Ame mentioned Mel before actually.

>>2436745
True enough, the Holos play it a little too safe, but I think that Jackbox stream let them have a bit of actual fun (do like how Kiara fell in love with it) and break the corporate mask a little.
And Vshojo clicks more with westerners, as much as it makes /jp/ purityfags seethe, and I can relate easier, but maybe thats because most of my friends are horny nerds so I'm absolutely used to the mindset.

>ctrl+f holo
>82 hits
do holoshits really have to seethe themselves into a frenzy every time they're not included?

>>2437081
Well, even to a Vshojofag, I have to admit the non involvement of any HL member in either the concert (to date) or this collab is a bit notable. None of us knows the politics or business negotiations behind the scenes, but it's still notable.

>>2430338
wtf are nyanner's and irnomouse's models? they look so soulless and shit

>>2437081
Our Board, Our Rules. Go back to /trash/

>>2437292
their models are not like that art. They tend to use that kind of art for official vshojo things for some reason.

>>2437431
your rules are you have to act fucking retarded?

>>2433354
holofags are new brony

>>2437431
>we
i'm a unitychad dont lump me in with the rest of you fags

>>2431092
>>2434963
lol SEANiggers.

>>2437081
Sweaty this board wouldn't even exist without holochads know your place

>>2430338
Pretty cool. At least they are collabing with other EN vtubers.

My god, the mental illness in this thread is tangible.

Ollie was right

>>2430959
>Mori is becoming an indie once her contract is over
ah yes, career suicide

>>2434711
I wonder if that actually applies to Vshojo since the company does not actually profit off of the streams. Vei said that the individual streamers keep everything from their streams, Vshojo only gets money from the merch and stuff like that.

>>2435652
It's only a matter of time. The dam is breaching. EN was a mistake.

>>2430959
>Mori leaves hololive once her contract is over
>Vshojo suddenly gets a new rapping vtuber member
Not going to happen, but can you imagine how mad /vt/ would be?

>>2438083
Mori already makes people seethe enough as it is, I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would bring

The 2016 US Election and its consequences have been a disaster for 4chan.

>>2435652
Is this a Zentreya thing?
I thought her identity was known. Could be misremembering though, I saw something months ago about it and didn't rparticularly care.

This one really triggered the antis

>>2430338
Deron... let's just pray for a smooth collab at this point i guess
>>2430910
>Mito
possibly
>Gundou
fuck that even though she would probably fit better personality wise
>>2430963
The amount of EOPs swarming into her chat if they realize she can keep up with eigo conversations and then inevitably latch onto crossick would be the right push to turn me into a schizoposter

>>2438083
/vt/ mad? Why? Does /vt/ love Mori so much that they would be so upset to see her graduate?

>>2438955
A lot of holofags here on /vt/ are tribalfags that hate vshojo. Something like seeing an ex-holo join vshojo would trigger a huge meltdown on this board.

>>2436211
Pikamee and VShojo never collabed?

>>2439057
Vshojo isn't worth tribalfagging for. I just think most of them are shit. I will tribal against the nijishitters until the day I die though.

>>2439057
Strange that people who hate Mori would be upset to see her leave their guarded tribe.

>>2439143
That doesn't make sense since a lot of vtubers on the corpo side of things know each other before going niji,holo,774 etc. They're friends from their time on NND and have likely met more than once.

>>2439137
Not yet I think, but it's probably going to happen at one point. Pikamee being an english speaking jp vtuber makes her an obvious choice.

>>2439220
It's not about the chuubas, it's about what nijifag antis have done to hololive over the years like getting Subaru's channel nuked and harassing Aloe into graduation.

>>2432303
Nah, they're just more upfront about it.

>>2430338
HoloCHAD...we...lose?

>>2439346
how does subaru's channel have anything to do with nijisanji? mio's channel got a copystrike from a game company and the cover panicked and did some retarded shit, did these fans somehow force the games company to do that?

>>2438060
Yes, the Vshojo girls act as individiual streamers, so they have WAY more leeway to choose what to play/stream in comparisson to Hololive.

>>2433882
As opposed to the 4chan incels that watch Hololive?

>>2439505
The reason hololive is so autistic with permissions currently and why girls can play so few games is because nijifags started mass emailing every company they could to try and get hololive channels banned.

>>2434251
You must live under the rock if you actually believe that. Your traditions are declining everyday.

>>2439654
But I don't see which part of Subaru's channel is supposed to be their fault. Hololive were breaking rules and a company took notice of it. Then in response Cover did some dumb shit. The fact that some people who were saying Hololive were breaking the rules turned out to be correct hardly makes it their fault Hololive were doing it in the first place. Nor is it their fault that Cover responded in a retarded way to it.

>>2439654
Actually made up a rrat to ignore holos not asking for permissions and nuking their library. Holocopes

>>2439654
It;s Cover own damn fault for being incompetent despite the popularity they got, but i see that you won't even acknowledge its own fault and just keep blaming on Niji's boogeyman you faggot

>>2439770
This is why I'm emailing jap companies about Vshojo.

>>2431614
is that on her stream? If not, the rrat isn't dead.

>>2439839
>>2439847
kys nijishitters
>>2439770
Because it's not really breaking rules. It's a grey area that one company happened to notice and make a claim to automatically take down a video on youtube. Nijisanji doesn't get permissions for almost anything they play which is why they can play so much more shit than hololive. Because the holo fanbase doesn't have the mass of autistic antis that nijishitters do and don't mass report every single video hoping that ONE company out there cares enough to copyright strike a youtube video. The employee who deleted Subaru's videos is retarded, but the only reason any of this happened is because of nijishitters.

>>2439889
Vshojo is probably different because it doesn't actually make money off of the streams. The streamers act as individuals and keep 100% of their stream earnings. Vshojo doesn't profit off of the copyrighter material and gets their cut from merchandise.

>>2439654
You got some proof for that claim?

>>2439950
Uhh niji gets permissions on almost everything and it's way for them because they are business savvy and went to school. They got verification before holos even noticed it was a thing too. Cover is incompetent

>>2440001
It's not different. Japan has no fair use. This way I can make vshojo toxic for japanese companies so that that DEGENERATE SUBHUMAN TROON zen stays far away from my oshi.

>>2439950
If really isn't a grey area, most of these Japanese game companies have explicit rules denying the ability to monetise their games for streaming if the content creator is attached to a company. I don't know where you get the idea that Nijisanji doesn't get permissions when they most definitely do, they have even made people stop playing games midway when the permissions changed like Shiina with Dragonquest.

>>2435544
>Holy shit, Ollie, Calli and Kiara are dead to me. Polka is my oshi now.

>>2434723
>/jp/
old vtuber /jp/sie here, you holoniggers are the cancer of western vtuber fanbase, literally brony tier

>>2440040
>most of these Japanese game companies have explicit rules denying the ability to monetise their games for streaming if the content creator is attached to a company
this is literally a made up narrative. it has nothing to do with being attatched to a company. japanese companies will copyright strike random channels on a whim. the only reason they can do this is because youtube gives them that power. it has nothing to do with legality. also fair use laws in japan are irrelevant because google is an american company.

>>2440182
You know that American ones can also do that, right? But they won't risk taking it to court because they MAY lose and set a precedent.

>>2437431
Luluchads rule both niji and holo
knee before her now you plebeian

>>2440245
American companies mostly understand that streams are free advertising for them, there's no incentive for them to fight it.

>>2440115
>/vyt/ is trying to act superior
o i am laffin

>>2440245
>You know that American ones can also do that, right
Yeah they can make copyright claims on youtube because youtube is ridiculously skewed toward companies instead of creators and don't give a fuck. That has nothing to do with legality. Of course companies won't take it to court because they know there's a good chance they lose. Instead they can just tell youtube to take whatever they want off their site and they'll listen because it's easier for youtube.

>>2439950
>>2439654
>>2439505
holyshit, nijisanji is literally living rent free in holonigger's head

>>2440182
It really isn't a made up narrative. It's literally right there in the guidelines for these companies.
https://www.capcom.co.jp/game/video-policy/
>個人向け
>収益化できるケース
>法人(プロダクション所属の個人含む)が動画を配信する場合はこの限りではありません。

>>2440182
The rules set for streaming do explicitly state the difference between streaming as an individual or part of a business for profit. You're right that they selectively enforce it depending on how well known the company is, but you're wrong on pretty much every other count.

Google being based in America has 0 relevance to how Japanese courts will handle it if one of them gets sued.

>>2440323
They have no incentive to fight it partly because of the backlash any company would receive from even trying that, in addition to the free advertising part.

>>2439950
Niji does get permissions for everything they play. They can play more by now, because they started gathering these way earlier than Holo. If you go back to late2019/early2020, most people on the JP side were wondering how Holo were able to get so many permissions, and complaining about how Niji has next to no game variety. Of course, until a company went ahead and took down a video, to which people realized they weren't actually getting permissions.

>>2440430
>go on mass flagging campaigns because you're upset hololive is more popular than nijisanji
>literally doxx the address of a 19 year old girl and harass her for weeks because she said something about a member of nijisanji
yeah rent free

o i am laffin that this dude is actually blaming ichikara for holos having to private entire chunks of their video library that didnt have permissions

>>2440466
>Google being based in America has 0 relevance to how Japanese courts will handle it if one of them gets sued.
It has relevance to them being able to legally force youtube to remove videos. And Japan does have fair use laws. I don't know the details, but I doubt any japanese company has taken someone to court over streaming video games.

>>2440466
>until a company went ahead and took down a video
You mean after nijifags started mass reporting hololive videos hoping that they could get one company to do something. conveniently left that part out I see

>>2439637
You will never be a woman

>>2440753
you're still keeping this dumb and false narrative alive even though people tried telling you nicely that this never happened

>>2440805
Ok delusional nijishitter. Hololive chats were literally spammed with niji antis for days after the permissions shitfest happened. I know you want to erase history and pretend you retards dindu nuffin, but anyone around back then knows exactly what happened.

>>2440843
?? Those two events aren't even related. Wow, these group of people spamming means they're the ones that took down the vids? Where do you even get this shit. Can you actually post proof? Cover is incompetent. They never asked for permissions. They're too dumb to know how things work. To this day Haato isnt verified which leaves her open for another Matsuri incident where someone can pretend to be her and have her channel taken down. Cover is INCOMPETENT

>>2440805
>nijiniggers attack another holo out of envy and spite
>they get found out almost immediately
>situation turns against them
>nijiniggers fall back and try to deny it ever happened
aloe, korone, permissions, mikomarine... its an eternal loop of stupidity

>thread about vtubers unrelated to hololive
>hololive /pol/tards show up to spill their retardation all over it
Every single time

>>2430497
Lmao

>>2440934
One of them also tried to bait on Shion talking shit about uber eats working on news years on twitter. He got shutdown quick.

>>2440934
>niji exists
>holos get in trouble because they're retarded
>somehow niji gets the blame for doing nothing
>goes to lengths to sperg out in threads that have nothing to do with them too

>>2441018
There's a difference between the niji fan (do nothing hipsters) that sit on this site and the Japanese niji fans.

>>2440843
There's a good deal people(most notably Katou Junichi's fanbase) who hate vtubers unconditionally and jump on any vtuber controversy to fuel the flames. Most recently, they set their sights on the Kuzuha/Mikoto thing.
How the fuck do you know it was Nijifags and not these retards?

>>2441074
does Katou Junichi's fanbase use niji profile pictures?

>>2441110
Why simply attack one company when you can falseflag and take down both?

>>2441110
Do you think falseflagging only exists here?

>>2441110
They do make exceptions.
For example, the guy's okay with Rin and his fanbase has no autonomy, so they're okay with her too.

>>2441054
Again, you can't even post proof this because this is a constantly recycled narrative

>>2440917
yeah they're completely unrelated. what a massive coincidence. lol who are you trying to convince? anyone who was actually there and saw the threads of antis organizing knows. all of you nijifags know.
maybe you can trick newfags? the fact is niji antis are unironically deranged and they'll probably end up doing something that will send them to prison one day. i'm surprised the aloe situation only stopped with the non-stop harassment and threats

>>2441074
>who hate vtubers unconditionally and jump on any vtuber controversy to fuel the flames
Why do these people even exist? Just to get mad at an anime girl?

>>2440964
>/pol/tards are exclusive to one console
>>>/v/

>>2441131
they must be pretty hardass falseflaggers then, spending years on it with the same account on youtube or twitter

>>2441219
hey maybe you can post actual, undeniable, and comprehensive proof that people can actually review instead of this schizo shit and you can have a case? Until then, it's purely schizo shit

>>2441183
So you're saying they're on in the same? You live under a rock?

>>2441219
Only reason why there haven't been deranged holofags is because hololive has only "recently" surpassed Nijisanji. Hell, until holoEN debut, the nijifags on /jp/ baited the holofags for being the inferior company and laughed that they would never need the retarded EOP audience (and considering https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4 exists, they had a point).

>>2441276
>undeniable
>on 4chan
how new?

>>2440964
>VTranny discord troon being trollbait
Pottery

>>2441325
bro there's constant threads about a dead holo that constantly talks about threatening future non-holo talents

>>2440182
>>2439950
>It's not breaking the rules
So you're saying the companies are enforcing a thing that doesn't exist?
>Niji doesn't gets permissions and is able to get away with it
Yes, the entire world only hates Hololive and everyone else can do whatever the fuck they want freely forever
Go overdose on meds
>>2440360
>Yeah they can make copyright claims on youtube because youtube is ridiculously skewed toward companies instead of creators and don't give a fuck. That has nothing to do with legality. Of course companies won't take it to court because they know there's a good chance they lose. Instead they can just tell youtube to take whatever they want off their site and they'll listen because it's easier for youtube.
Educate yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

>>2441429
and they were probably all you

>>2441268
>Why do these people even exist? Just to get mad at an anime girl?
Their derogatory word for vtubers is just "絵," which means "picture," so I guess they hate vtubers because they're obscuring their normal facecam streamers/youtubers.

>>2441496
Everyone's seen that video. It's basically "youtube takes things down because it's less trouble than leaving it up" also it doesn't even apply in this case because we're talking about an extremely grey legal area that doesn't even have legal precedent.

>So you're saying the companies are enforcing a thing that doesn't exist?
Hello retard. Yes this is exactly what's happening. Youtube is not legally obligated to take down a lot of the copyright claims that they do. They do it because it's easier than fighting for content creators. This is why so many review channels which are text book fair use get hit with copyright strikes. Because the youtube copyright strike system is not based on concrete law. It's just something youtube came up with and enforces arbitrarily because they can.

>>2440964
holonigger is new brony, new at 11

>>2441617
Ghost Trick is a Capcom game. Their streaming guidelines have been linked here >>2440455 they specifically state that it is fine for individuals to stream/post and monetize their games, but not individuals attached to a company or companies. They are specifically saying we will ignore that you are using our copyrighted works to make money if you are an individual but if you are a company we aren't going to.

>>2441074
>>2441018
>>2440964
holoniggers will spam their narratives forever until it becomes the truth because of their sheer numbers of retards and idiocy

>>2430338
I'm guessing Melody is blacklisted? When she's gonna stop doing camshit so she can just be a normal streamer and not get excluded from stuff, or is it just too lucrative to give up?

>>2441617
>i can cram a 42 minute essay into one sentence
and completely ignore every relevant part i guess
>Because the youtube copyright strike system is not based on concrete law.
It is. Being abused doesn't make it any less real.
>This is why so many review channels which are text book fair use get hit with copyright strikes.
Livestreamers playing vidya while chatting with their fanbase and having a funny reaction every 30 minutes isn't a review and it's NOT under fair use. Western companies not taking action because they realized it's free advertisement doesn't make that any less true. Bring a better example or go educate yourself.

>>2430338
by spamming pomf pomf

>>2441945
she got over $100k in tips in a single stream on her birthday
way too lucrative to give up

>>2441268
They actually hate vtubers for the same tribal reason as Holo/Niji. They see vtubers as "other" Youtubers taking up market share. Vtubers are just easier to find stuff to flame about since they livestream for long periods of time, are getting huge amounts of traction, and have a much higher percentage of rabid fans. It doesn't help that the youtuber themselves in question supports them. Ironically, they actually somewhat leave them alone if their favorite youtuber is friends with the roommate.

>there haven't been deranged holofags
I have no clue how the threads are on here, but the /jp/ dox threads and the 5ch Holothreads prior to their board move are certainly what I would call deranged.

>>2434057
Some faggot KFP artist that Kiara regularly retweeted wrote up an entire google doc on how mamaloni is pedophile and needs to be ostracized from the Hololive community. You need to realize that there are way more SJWs in Hololive than in any other fandom and your delusional if you think HoloEN will bend it's knees to cunnyoisseurs.

>>2442311
>ESL
And also
>your delusional if you think HoloEN will bend it's knees to cunnyoisseurs
Have you even watched a Gura stream?

>>2441945
Unicornchama...
Regardless of what it ended up as, Melody was like Tsukino Mito for the west. She showed that you can use an anime avatar and succeed.

>>2442061
Anon you're missing the entire point of the argument. Nobody knows what qualifies as fair use in this situation because there's no precedent yet. Everything right now is operating on assumptions.

Read this https://brooklynworks.brooklaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1297&context=bjcfcl
it's much more relevant than your video and lays out arguments for and against fair use for streaming video games.

>>2442627
You really expect a consolebaby zoomer to read?

>>2442558
Gura isn't a loli.

>>2442311
link to doc?

>>2443075
Not linking it, the person who posted it was 15 and threads were deleted. He rebranded his Twitter or deleted it too but you might find it with the proper search terms on twitter.

>>2442311
Are we literally arguing which fanbase has the more delusional schizos now? You will find a few retards in any fanbase and most fans will be normal people.

>>2438060
thats why they are not full corporate yet, once they reach that level there will be no difference with cover or ichikara

>>2443075
All the doc had were links to her loli or high school aged works.

>>2438083
wouldn't be surprising. Mori has always been the weakest member in EN.

>>2442311
If you see a kfp/cumbud post you should immediately be wary of falseflagging, anon