/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24365443
It's old path Hololive walked, pandering to chinks

>>24365443
Right up till they turn

>>24365535
Seethe

>>24365443
Use them and then dump them when you're big enough to not need them anymore. Anything that makes China miserable in the long run has my full support

It's not fair...you can be ugly, you can be NEET, you can be disgusting, you can be autistic, but as long as you have a good voice you can have great success as a Vtuber. So this guy gets all the spoils while I'm out here sounding like the British DSP. FUCK Vox

>>24365443
I don't think it's a long term sustainable plan, because CN always blows up in your face and parasocial situations are intense but short. But in a way it doesn't matter, because by the time it backfires, he'll already have made enough money to be set for life.

>>24365443

>>24365836
never said i watched him.
I don't watch male but he did prove that parasocial relationships are the best possible route for all vtubers.

>>24365443
>Going the BFE Class
>Just don't fucked up like Rushia.
I respect the guy but I still despise the Fujos.

>>24365900
No he didn’t.
He proved that he as a singular Bruner with the right combination of character design and voice was able to get all of the Fujos and thirsty online women in one place.
He is a one off and the female viewer base is a small and weird group of people.

Male viewers always to some degree have a feeling of connection or relationship to the chuuba they are watching and chatting to.
The only thing that changes when they lean into the paradoxical aspect more is that the viewers can develop unhealthy parasocial feelings or think that it is something that it’s not.
Doesn’t change views or subs much.
Increase donations at the cost of taking advantage of fans and possibly inviting yabs.

>>24365900
No he is a unique case.
He has a good model and a good voice and has been able to basically reel in all of the Fujos to his channel.
The Fujo viewer base is much smaller and he pretty much has them to himself.

All viewers have some level of relationship to the chuubas they’re watching.
They spend time watching them and they chat to/with them during the stream.

Pushing the GFE and fake relationship stuff doesn’t bring more views or subs. It possibly brings more donations at the cost of taking advantage of fans and ending up in Russia style drama.

>>24365756
Do your voice reps

>>24365443
Thank you vox for making the chinese woman into left over women

>>24366276
>Russia style drama.
All Out War!!!

>>24365443
Everyone knows that, see Rushia. It's pretty retarded to not just give your audience what they want because you think pandering is a sin or something desu.

>>24366276
>Pushing the GFE and fake relationship stuff doesn’t bring more views or subs
you have to be wilfully ignorant to think this

>>24366276
>Russia style drama
Nijisanji is going to go to war with VSPO! over some separatist talents and Hololive will keep giving VSPO! arms whilst VShoujo ends up joining Hololive?

>>24365443
Aqua already did that tho

>>24365443
I remember a long time ago babysitting my cousin and he was brofisting the screen for Pewdiepie, his best friend. So yeah, that has always been a path to success one way or another.

Not to mention, according to twitter bitches that sperg about it, it's only bad if a girl does it, both the moralfag kind and the e-thot kind that wants free cash from losers while already having a man taking care of her.

>>24366276
I don't know a single weeb woman who isn't a fujo

>success
>gaining a dedicated following of seriously mentally ill high schoolers who will pay bot farms to rep you

>>24366912
>>gaining a dedicated following of seriously mentally ill high schoolers
i'd consider that success. think of how many cute girls you could groom

>>24367103
>chinese awkward nerd femcel teens
>cute
No thanks. And vox likes em a lot younger than that lol.

>>24366435
Oops I meant Rushia.
Vladymir “Rushia” Zelensky.

He has pushed GFE on the Biden Administration and in return has gotten lots of Javelins and big boom booms tankies.
But now he is in a yab where the CIA really really likes him and wants his whole country.
Oh Nyo~!

>>24367160
you're literally a homo

>>24366435
VSPO is basically Serbia to Nijisanji Russia. They bond from Apex (Orthodox Christianity) and Nijisanji helped alot during infancy.

>>24366276
>Pushing the GFE and fake relationship stuff doesn’t bring more views or subs
explain to me the confounding variable in the half dozen extremely popular chuubas that are apparent and obvious contradictions to this statement

>>24367210
Seethe

>>24367160
>likes 12 year old girls
wtf, vox is based?!

>>24365535
But they already did. The response from his fujos? "Please don't, we don't want to start drama for milord". Guy has the female population of china on his side. He's gonna cut off their breeding rights if something goes wrong

>>24366629
Me, homosexuality is disgusting

>>24367591
Ask me how I know you're a pimply ass femcel using a script because you can't think for yourself. Go on ask me.

>>24367752
if you don't like loli you don't belong on this site and need to gb2 reddit

>>24367333
Because it doesn’t typically draw massive amounts of viewers, it just intensifies the relationship.
The type of people who are going to buy into actual parasocial interactions are probably already watching.

But as the level of GFE goes up, the level of attachment and feelings from certain viewers goes up.
And the amount of money coming out of the wallet goes up.

Gura doesn’t do GFE.
Miko doesn’t do GFE.
Pekora doesn’t do GFE.
Aqua doesn’t do GFE.
Haachama doesn’t do GFE.
Laplus doesn’t do GFE.

GFE doesn’t mean significantly higher views or subs. It just means significantly more unhealthy attachment and superchats.

>>24367860
Yet everyone of those you've mentioned absolutely refuses to collab with guys at all.
They might not do gfe but they do cater to their parasocial fanbase

>>24367860
>Aqua doesn’t do GFE.
https://youtu.be/6bnaBnd4kyU
I’m awkward no matter what I do, always making some kind of mistake
But even though I’m so hopeless
there is one thing I can do

Even if you’re sad and feeling down, I’ll put a smile on your face
I’m right here
so hurry up and find me

(love you love you. I love you.
love you love you. I love you so much.)
(love you love you. I love you.
love you love you. Love me more)

I’m always by your side and we can always laugh together
Get to know a lot about me, and say that you love me a lot
I’m spoiled and not a morning person, I’m clumsy and hopeless
but even so, keep watching me

I’ll continue towards the future from the dreams I pictured
hoping that I’ll be able to walk this path with you

Hey! I want you to fall for me more
All I see in my head is you!!
I mean, stop looking the other way!
Ah jeez! I’m going to get nervous, ah

Love me forever and forever, enough to make my heart flutter
Won’t you look towards me, hey darling?
Ah, I’ll never leave you, I swear!

>>24367860
you post this as if i say "the only way to get popular is GFE". answer the question

>>24367848
A real 12 year old preteen child isn't loli you disgusting barely English speaking pimply ass potbellied slanty eyed dumb bitch.

>>24367990

>>24368047
>t. Seething femcel with a yeast infection

>>24367160
This wasnt real, it was some made up unsourced claim by some random "throwaway" account, most likely belonging to the adult who tried to groom a drunk Vox when he was 16

>>24367990
are you a girl?
i've only ever seen girls use the word pimply as an insult

>>24367860
i'm pretty sure all of them do gfe except gura. and laplus maybe

>>24368110
>unsourced claim
>personal friend of his for years
>confirmed and defended by a personal friend of vox who tried to defend him
>vox deletes his entire social media presence save for his YouTube channel (for nijisanji auditions)
>is confirmed by several mods in the Undertale discord he was in
>banned from the discord server
Yeah yeah totally made up
>TWELVE AND FOURTEEN YEARS OLD
He was 17 years old not 16. And it's still not okay to groom a 12 year old preteen if you're 17. It's actually a crime.

>>24368210
>It's actually a crime
this has to be bait at this point right?

>>24368244
It's actually contained in the malicious communications and child protection act. Yes it's a crime. And vox being 17 in the UK doesn't get to avoid criminal responsibility for grooming a 12 year old child.
Are you going to keep seething? You already lied about his age.

>>24365443
The man himself, Vox Akuma
>panders hard to her gachi audience and ends up being the most successful NijiEN and even moging some holos
Any of the accessor- sorry, I mean girls
>is against pandering to gachis, some even show disdain towards them after Luxiem's debut, are stagnating and bottom of the barrel trash

>B-but muh unicorns bad!
Get fucked whores, pandering to gachis is the way to succeed. Enjoy being nobodies

>>24367595
v-vox-san..
i kneel

>>24367990
You sound angry, calm down

>>24368898
Seething greasy face femcel alert!

>>24365443
>funny guy that can come with silly antics whenever, goes on FNAF and Runescape lectures hourly, forcing his horny fanbase to listen to FNAF/Runescape lore
>excellent work ethics, gets withdrawals if he doesn't stream, if he's unable to stream for 1 day he'll schedule 3 streams in the next day as compensation
>actually gives a fuck about what his fanbase wants, asks them if one thing is preferred over the other
>will say the cringiest shit on streams and not give a fuck, incapable of cringing at himself
>still streams regularly even during offcollabs and meeting 20 of his coworkers
>at some point just flatly out said "only thing i really need to focus on is in my fanbase"

Think whatever you want on his gachi pandering thing and whoring out, but his work ethics towards streaming is on point in this market full of lazy whores who will coast through everything with little to none efforts

>>24369035
>molests children

>>24365443
What he's doing is literally no different from what most Holos are doing so I really don't know why people are having trouble with him so much, don't they realize that they're being hypocrite?

>>24368304
You're mixing up facts. Vox "groomed" a girl 2 years younger than him when he was 16 or 17.
The 12 and 14 was the girls he supposedly flirted with on his fan discord.

>>24369058
based?

>>24369058
Now I will watch your chuba

Tell me this
If Vox is a molester or pedo, why haven't the victims come forward?
Why is it his "friends" telling these stories and not the people involved?
It's 2022, victims speak their truth, so why not here?

>>24367860
>Gura doesn’t do GFE.
>Miko doesn’t do GFE.
>Pekora doesn’t do GFE.
>Aqua doesn’t do GFE.
>Haachama doesn’t do GFE.
>Laplus doesn’t do GFE.
Bruh. All these people(except Laplus) are doing GFE, they literally act like males don't exist and can't utter their names at all whatsoever. You think that's normal?

>>24369058
>>24367160
You sound like a twitter troon giving shit about something minor as that

>>24369137
>lying
>flirting sexually with a 12 year old isn't grooming
Oh no. Femcels literally going off their meds in real time.

>>24368444
digits and truth

>>24369122
Because they all said male vtubers will never be successful six months ago

>>24365443
The great irony here is that the strongest pro-male proponents want it for several reasons.

a.) because they're naive 12 year olds physically or mentally who want the category to exist because they have retarded dreams to become a vtuber and join Hololive and groom their oshi, they'd be fine degrading Holo's quality significantly to improve their chances of scoring with their oshi from 0% to something tangible, even though in reality it's still basically gonna be 0% because they specifically screen holostars for groomers and monitor you for such behavior.

b.) they're butthurt at Holo's success being from pandering to idolfags and want anything to try to prove them "wrong" even though Holo already proved this is the most successful method

c.) they think it's "owning the incels" and are anti-GFE even though they spend dozens of hours a week watching a girl be cute and have lmao no idea what they're even doing here mentally. maybe they want to try to make the hobby more cool/mainstream/acceptable - no, it fucking isn't just because dudes are in it.

d.) they think male holos = verbatim reskins of their favorite regular twitch ecelebs

Vox proving that the way to go is to pander to BFE hardcore sellout, ignore Hololive and be fucking outright unwatchable to the average straight dude who wanted ecelebs aka brotubers is a nice little package of reality spiking them in the eye.

>>24373244
>brotubers
unless you're jp where anime style stuff is fully accepted, no brotubers are gonna go for vtubing when they could just stream as themselves

>>24372934
It's amazing how wrong people were.

>>24365443
>>>/lgbt/ .

>>24365535
They will learn.

>>24369311
Yeah. If you can't even mention guys for fear of backlash then that means that is a unicorn farmer. Why can't they be based like Mouse?

>>24375320
They could if there was reason to. Connor for example using Bubi to draw back in his 93% audience while having his regular self do his normal content.

>>24365443
Everyone knew about that already, Michael feline is an even better example than vox to show how fucking shameless you can be and keep getting the money

>>24376324
To be fair, it was easy to overlook the possibility of Asian girls flocking to Western males (unless you are an r/AsianMasculinity regular or something). Asian dudes don't watch Western girls nearly as much and indies never really attracted the chink fujo crowd.

>>24372934

Low key it actually is fascinating to me that someone with no talent but a popular accent and a bait avatar can make it as far as vox has.

If you told me two years ago that an empty shell of a male streamer with a generic goth boy avatar would be more popular online than an anime tiddy girl streamer I'd have laughed.

then again, hanging around in various gaming discords has unfortunately made me learn that the internet is currently overflowing with lonely ugly teen-25ish aged women who would slit their families throats for the anime men from their games or visual novels to notice them.

it seems dumb but niji did a stellar job of setting someone up with an avatar that lured in all those desperate women.

>>24372934
They forgot that lonely w*man exist

Pandering just means you have no other talent to speak of. Kind of shows how untalented he is if this is the only thing that is talked about him.

>>24386555
??? How new are you to this hobby? That’s all vtubers are. A good looking anime avatar, voice is optional

>>24386711

not new at all, i'm just surprised to see the actual demographic proves that males are the minority when it comes to viewers. that is where the surprise comes from.
makes me wonder why bikini pool streams blew up on twitch and not the streams where fit dudes work out

Can't hate Vox for making his money.