/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yes, Nyanners is a whore.

No. If he thinks Chuubas are his social workers he needs his meds badly. Kinda sus timing if you ask me.

>>24294024
>nyanners having to resort to connor drama with her boyfriend
Just retire already, this is embarrassing

>>24294024
kys holonigger

Nyanners is a whore
Wyatt is a 30+ year old manchild still living with his parents and gets offended over Amogus memes.

>>24294024
>wyatt
Kek this guy is halarious internet troll
His previous twitter account got banned because he went on a 100 post threat on george floyd and making fun of trannies in a "if im getting banned may as well go all in" mode

>>24294160
They aren't his social workers you limited comprehension autist, he is referring to the fanbases at large
Paying members of these girls all use them like social workers.
This is a fact.

Gray names do not, but gray names also don't matter to the streamer so there opinion also doesn't matter in this regard.

>>24294024
who?

>whore is a whore
Color me surprised.

>>24294024
People here are not the audience. The fact we have a vshojo thread at all is hilarious. Who are these people?

isn't Nyanners like 35? at that point your fans are begging you to get a husband

>>24294277
gray names do matter but theyre more disposable in the long run since they matter more as a group then as individuals

>>24294443
Most of the girls in vshoujo are 30+

Nyanners is a slut and doesn't belong in vtubing

>>24294483
They matter as a form a clout, not as a sustainable job.
Tier 3 subs and the like are the ones who pay these girls bills, they don't look at these girls as just simply entertainers

In the sense that a lot of people have autism and that even if they found someone they would more than likely leave them once they discover how autistic they are and will be left to die alone, that part is true.
I don't know the solution for that.

Like Calliope, nyanners just been declared useless for his own popularity
Why do they think their Oshi is a man of integrity?
Even though E-celeblities usually
deceive their listeners.

>>24294277
Wyatt doesn't even watch Hololive so how would he know, dumbfuck? He's an Anitwitter grifter with blatantly obvious tourism.

>>24294535
then what's the big deal? her clock is ticking. I don't want my oshi to day alone

>>24294024
Not really. Western paypigs have voted with their wallets, why would I feel bad for them when they have only themselves to blame? All they have to do is crucify a chuuba or two with boycotts for going too far and things would get seiso real quick

>>24294819
>to day
I should go to bed

>>24294722
Because it's the same mindset with any twitch thot and egirl.
Paypigs use these girls as replacement social workers.

Why do you think so many obsessive members call these girls mommy or just spam forced positivity

Gray names don't usually do this, they are the normal ones who will actually interact with the streamer, then you'll have an army of members mob them for being rude/presumptuous

>>24294024
"Right" how? He isn't really saying anything anyone doesn't already know.
His "point" is "Single vtubers are a product people with no alternative are willing to pay top dollar for".
That is not news. It's not even particularly insightful.
I like Wyatt but lately he's very obviously trying to become A Thing, and that always fucks shit up as your content becomes optimized for clout rather than quality.

>>24294541
This

>>24294024
Fucking wyatt
Kek

>>24294952
>"Right" how? He isn't really saying anything anyone doesn't already know.
>His "point" is "Single vtubers are a product people with no alternative are willing to pay top dollar for".
>That is not news. It's not even particularly insightful.
It is news to most Twitter users since they act shocked every time they hear that gachikoi and unicorns exist

>>24294929
That sounds like some grey name broke bitch cope to me

>>24295235
No I'm just objective, I'm not saying members are doing anything wrong either, it's just how different the audience is between a member and a gray name

>>24294929
Spoken like a greyname himself kek

>>24294929
>Gray names don't usually do this, they are the normal ones who will actually interact with the streamer, then you'll have an army of members mob them for being rude/presumptuous
Gray names are the absolute worst parts of chat 99% of the time, what do you even mean by this
Maybe on Twitch? I don't use that site so I couldn't say, and I also watch JP vtubers so maybe this is an EN thing, but almost every time I see grayniggers speak it's something that is either unintelligible, outright clearly retarded, completely incapable of reading the room(like a vtuber talking about her father passing away and a gray name shouts "LETS GOOOO" which while funny isn't what I'd call normal), or genuinely just boring noise

>>24294024
Trying too hard

>>24294024
i hate nyanners but i don't care what some twitter faggot has to say, fuck off

>>24295409
See >>24295386

Members definitely have a parasocial relationship with the streamer, whereas gray names view them as just simple entertainers.
Look at the rushia drama.

Gray names are the ones that supported her afterwards, not her members.
But how much is that support really worth?
Pretty much jack.

The reality of being a female streamer is that no audience of paying men will ever really be entertained by you, they will be infatuated with you, that's different.

>>24294024
Holy shit what a fucking loser.

>>24295475
All of that is true, but it's also a fact that gray names don't engage in forced positivity/grooming squads

Go into a 2views stream, you will have a dozen members tell you what is allowed and what isn't.

>>24294024
Who is this and why should I care about his cuck opinion?

>>24295596
Stop samefagging

>>24295878
>stating that fans don't want to be cucked is a cuck opinion
Are you retard?

>>24294024
Ask the guy about his gf, I dare you OP

>>24295958
>linking to my old post when responding to someone is samefagging
Anon go home, get some rest

>>24294204
She’s got another holo collab to attend firs retardchama

>>24294024
An ironic weeb gets salty after he visited /vt/ lmao

kys holobronies

>>24295596
>Gray names are the ones that supported her afterwards, not her members.
This is actually incorrect, after the NDA thing was announced a lot of graynames AKA casual Hololive viewers started antiposting about her, but the people she kept were her paying gachikoi because she made an effort to keep them.
There were a few clueless EOP grayname Twitter tourists, sure, but a crazy percentage of her current audience is recognizable previous Rushia gachikoi

>>24295596
So you believe people only member or sub to vtubers if they want to fuck them? Please go outside dude i'm begging you.

>>24294541
To bad she’s one of the popular ones, won’t be retiring for a while, shit shes even planning another holo collab…

>>24296095
I don't know why she doesn't just retire, her career has plateaued and her numbers keep getting lower every month

>>24294242
>offended over Amogus memes
What the fuck? QRD?

>>24296285
You got proof of this statement retardchama?

>>24294024
Just watch Hololive.

>>24296263
>sub
no
>only member to vtubers if they want to fuck them
yes, if it's a cute girl model, she has no obvious boyfriend, and she acts like a cute girl, the members want to fuck her. I would hope that this is obvious.

>>24296263
You are not comprehending, people that member to any streamer want to form a deeper, more personal, parasocial connection with that streamer
That's inherently what the monetary investment is for, you get to be in a club with the other people who feel the same way, you get perks over others and will be treated more superficially special than gray names
Often times, the reason why people are driven towards memberships to begin with is because something is significantly missing from their lives that they look to this streamer to give them, either a sense of belonging or faux-human contact
It's pretty emblematic of social worker in a bizarro sense
>>24296165
Mikoneko herself nonstop admits in streams that the english normalfags on twitter that dislike idol culture are what saved her.
Now, some of her old members decided to come back, but during the entire ordeal, JP members did abandon her en masse, which I personally agree with, but I also believe in second chances

>>24296339
You do realize that when she debuted as a vtuber she instantly became one of the biggest vtubers in the world?
It's all been downhill since, she isn't growing anymore.

>>24296591
>one of the biggest in the world
>not growing anymore
Yeah, why aren't the aliens across the galaxy interested?

pink cat

>>24294024
100%. History will absolve him.

>>24294024
Typical /vt/ poster

>>24294024
>nyannars
>idol culture
no.

>>24296591
and yet she continues to be ahead of many holo talents, this isn without the twitch subs added on either,

>>24294024
>>24294265
Oh I knew I recognized him

>>24296536
Dude all people want is funny emotes and member exclusive content, and maybe they. I don't know, WANT to support the streamer more than the fact that they want to fuck them. I'm not saying everyone is like that, but I think the majority of them are. If you still believe that they're all like that then get the fuck out of this hobby with your stupid psychoanalyzing bullshit.

>>24296637
When she debuted as a vtuber, the market was only a fraction of what it was, the fact that the market has exponentially grown, while her viewerbase hasn't, is called a growth plateau

Many other vtubers are ahead of her now, and in the big pond of streamers, nyanners barely made the list of the top streamers that had their money leaked

>>24296285
Even if this is true, why should she give a fuck?
Nyanners has willingly debuffed herself time and time again as a vtuber. Tons of member-only yt streams, turning of dono alerts, inconsistent schedules, etc. She's pretty clearly prioritized her mental health and comfort over non-stop growth, and will continue to do that so long as she can make a living in the process. Past a certain point of popularity and income, vtubers who actually care about numbers the same way people here do are pretty rare.

>>24296825
>nyanners barely made the list of the top streamers that had their money leaked
You are without the doubt the most retarded poster I've ever seen. Are you really comparing a niche that blew up in the last year against mainstream streamers?

>>24296813
You keep conflating parasocial needs with fucking, that's not what that is

Example, I was in a thread talking about fauna not that long ago, where people were defending their parasocial needs from fauna to refer to her as a mommy
Parasocial relationship have more of a wanting a hug and feeling of validation vibe to it, rather than just a sexual outlet.
>get the fuck out of this hobby with your stupid psychoanalyzing bullshit
I've been here since /jp/ m8, there's no need to feel attacked

>>24294575
>they don't look at these girls as just simply entertainers
T3 from an indie, and I do. No idea if vshojofags do, though.

>>24296956
Since that niche blew up, nyanners growth has gotten worse.
Really, really read what I'm writing anon.

I don't know why you are so invested in disproving such an obvious statement, look at her social blade over the last year, she has less overall engagement and growth.
Vtubers are not niche anymore, nyanners has just stopped growing.

>>24294024
But nyanner is not an idol.

>>24297012
How long were you subbed for and how often were you in their discord?

>>24294541
>>24294384
>>24294242
This kind of crass stuff needs to get out of the community and honestly hasn't been welcome for a while. Yes, nyan has a boyfriend and if you're an actual nyacolyte you're supportive of that. Stop the freaking hate speech about her sexuality.

>>24297106

>>24296536
>Mikoneko herself nonstop admits in streams that the english normalfags on twitter that dislike idol culture are what saved her.
Yes, she said kaigai helped her a tremendous amount and were incredibly kind
However what she actually said first brought her back was seeing everyone(meaning, her old audience) saying things like "I want to hear your voice" and "I need you" and things like that
As for them being normalfags who dislike idol culture, if she had actually realized that that was the case she wouldn't do this kind of thing
https://files.catbox.moe/nlhr6o.mp3
Her JP members did not, in fact, abandon her en masse and they were the majority of her audience for any stream outside of her biggest public Youtube streams. If you had kept up with her gachikoi on Twitter you'd realize this.
The people that abandoned her weren't her gachikoi. They were casual JP viewers.
Please go back and look at those regulars who supposedly abandoned her but watch her now and look at their twitter feeds and such. They never ditched her. They were the only ones that stayed onboard.

>>24297106
Depends what metrics we're using I feel? Nyanners' 1 mil subscriber video on yt is post vtubing debut. Her twitch stream barely got any engagement before she put on the mask. She definitely got a ton of growth in 2020 and early-mid 2021, since then she's plateaued but hasn't really declined as dramatically as you'd expect given her erratic schedule.

>>24294024
about most vtuber fans being lonely nerds? probably
about this being disastrous for nyan? not so far
he also seems pretty misinformed about how vshojo operates if he thinks this was a corporate decision

>>24297106
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners
NTA but seems like she's doing alright. Plateaued a bit during holidays 2021 but that's common for everyone. Followers still going up.

can’t forget this all started because of the subathon, she wanted to be a supportive friend nd not get in mouseys way, now shes moving house in like a week so it should be back to normal

>be smelly NEET who has given up on life
>find something cute/entertaining to watch online because I don't have much to do anyway
>some faggot online finds a way to pathologize me by attempting to place me in the same category as the current year boogeyman (incel terrorists)

I wish normgroids would just stop existing, I really do.

>>24297396
Going back even earlier, it all started with the doxxing campaigns against her by the same people who initiated the phishing attempt Nux made a video about.

>>24294541
Yes, she only became a vtuber because it was the latest fad and as soon as something new and shiny appears she will cling onto that just like she clinged onto Melody to stay relevant.

>>24294242
>gets offended over Amogus memes
qrd?

>>24297553
She's been doing it since 2018 when it wasn't something that got much interest, she just didn't have a custom pink cat model at the time
Mel wanted her in vshojo because she was one of the biggest indies around at the time and was inclining hard

Yes, Nyanners is a bitch and I hope something happens that forces early retirement from VTubing.

>>24297229
I think people are calling her a whore because she literally cheated on the only guy who supported her unconditionally for years and throught all her menhera attacks for some jacked dude.

>>24297808
They split up in 2019. That was just a dumb theory someone made up for why she was sad a couple of months back.

>>24295596
She retained 70% of her members and the ones that left were primarily because of not being part of the Hololive box/"Rushia", not the mafumafu drama.

>>24297229
>This kind of crass stuff needs to get out of the community and honestly hasn't been welcome for a while
Nyanners is a whore and so are you, show your tits or leave

Girls wants a real dick. What a surprise.

>>24294024
>how about you have that one person working for you come out as a man who is taking money from straight men pretending to be a girl
Is this true bros? If so, who's the tranny? I don't know anything about the vslutwhore lore.

>>24298326
ask yourself; do you actually want to find out and ruin your day?
If the answer is no, leave this thread and just keep on never watching vwhorejo

>>24298326
the dragon one, zen something

>>24298396
I don't see how this would ruin my day anon.

>>24298396
>>24298326
And yet they're still populsr vtubers who even got in with holo and niji

>>24298396
>>24298498
Please tell me it's not a dude, I desperately wanted to fuck this thing. Watching it purely for the sex appeal.

>>24294024
Remember when she stop doing her dumb comic dubs/songs and wasn't a vtuber yet in that short period when she wasn't really online at all....good times.

>>24298817
And now shes close with the big leagues, how did SHE manage this, how could she possible get in with holo its not possible

>>24294024
>she

>>24298888
Well she got the generic no taste weeb appeal with that awful wannabe Japanese fake voice which also got popular in dub anime vs old stuff when women didn't try copy the high pitch Japanese just sounded normal....good old days. She also got the idiotic IRONIC WEEB FUNNY HENTAI LOLI XDD shit going on too, it's very easy see why she's popular.

>>24294541
>Nyanners is a slut and doesn't belong in vtubing
Nyanners is one of the godfathers of VTubing.

I like her thighs

>>24298888
Myth is basically a sanitized version of VShojo.

>>24294024
Kind of but falling in love with nyanners (or pretty much any other vshojo member for the matter) is like falling in love with a prostitute, we warned them about this bitch being liar and a traitor for years now so faggots that fallen into her trap "I'm a shut-in just like you nerds, social anxiety uwu also I'm practically a lesbian so you don't have to worry about other men in my life" etc.

Anyway I don't think it's some sort of corporate strategy to change the industry, just women being women. They do it because they have enough of a normie audience at this point they can get away with pretty much anything other than some political takes that get you deplatformed in the West or so it seem at least. What I expect is just much less discussion about them even if the numbers remain just fine, much like we don't discuss Code Miko pretty much at all even if she's THE Vtuber for quite a lot of people out there on twitch it would seem

>>24298326
Every single major company has trannies working for them.

>>24297876
>remember how i said all those times i'm a lonely cat lady, well now i actually am
>i'm so touch starved
who says this about something that happened 3 years ago?

>>24294160
He's kinda correct but isn't right. Vtubers aren't supposed to be social workers, but they're also not meant to be a way for low self-esteem streamers to funnel their personal lives because they're too ugly to show their faces on stream. Vtubers are meant to be a character, and the people behind them should try their best not to break it.

>>24299184
thanks california

>>24299192
These are not quotes, this is the rretards made up rrat

>>24294024
Wyatt doesn't miss.

>>24298723
>tts
>sex appeal

>>24299443

>>24297561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IjAy_7vXzs

>>24299041
>>24297738

she was also coomerbaiting animu virgins decade before Vtubing was even a thing, her life is a grift.

>>24299184
why is michael attached to this post...anon?

>>24299626
Ok coomer what ever you say coomer

link to her talking about her bf?

>>24299851
Wanted a pic that wasn't tied to any specific corpo.

>>24300144
but michael is best know for a drama tied to the biggest corpo...

>>24300209
Right now she is indie and is not like the drama has anything to do with the point.

>>24299520
kek

>>24298723
even if it was a girl he's constantly having menhera breakdowns, why would you watch him?

>>24300410
This text to voice thing makes the stream unbearable. It is beyond me how people watch this.

>>24294024
yes. Nyanners and vShojo is everything /a/ said vTubers would be. Its actually disgusting they are allowed to have threads here and arent moved to trash. just NTR and e-celeb talk

>>24300592
Nooo this girl has like 3 butt plugs up her ass and talks about sex all the time but I watch her because I like her content and not because I fap to her. Touch grass holobroney.

I love going into VShojo anti threads because you people believe the most insane shit and it always makes my day lmao

>>24294024
Who actually thought that Vshojo were idols? They’ve always been bottom of the barrel whores.

>>24294024
Come on, there's plenty for everyone now that everyone loopholes the Federal Reserve to effective end. And there's much much more where that came from, and we're off to a head start.
This calls for a celebration,
to fresh creampies.

>>24300592
>Nyanners and vShojo is everything /a/ said vTubers would be
Women?

>>24300722
You've got thin skin.

>>24300410

>>24294024
He is 100%, but because he chose to autistically sperg out on twitter, no one will take him seriously

>>24300923
>uses TTS
>isn't a robot
wtf vshojo

>>24297229
kys whore enabler

>>24294024
>american vtuber
>sucks dick
Pottery.

>>24301271
Is bananana

>>24301152
where should he have sperged for people to take him seriously?

Why is everyone pretending to care or to be surprised? vshojo has a literal camwhore in the group.

>>24294024
He's just envious that he's not her personal buttslave.

>>24301538
That's one of the best things about vshojo
https://twitter.com/NoContextMelody/status/1525686198286659585

>>24301518
He shouldn't have sperged in general. People rarely take autistic ramblings seriously, even if its true

>>24297876
They ever say why they split up? I remember the dude and some of her friends streaming Overwatch back when she had her first name in her username on twitch.

>>24299520
Holy fucking based. How can you even compete with such a legend?

Idolshitters seething ITT

>>24297242
>Parra, Parra
A la verga. Quién?

>>24294443
29

>>24302345
Almost

>>24294024
He is retarded because this is like writing a 10 pages essay just to say "sky is blue" without giving any detailed information. Everyone knows this.

>>24294024
She had a fanbase prior to becoming a vtuber, so I would say only newer fans (if any) watch for that self-insert/parasocial nonsense. That guy probably has never watched any of her content to begin with.

>>24299017
>loli
Anon her model is not loli, what kind of crack are you on?

>>24299119
But shes close eiyh polka as well?

>>24302993
I didn't say anything about her model I was making fun of the stuff those she does, dumbass.

>>24301538
And yet shes just as popular as any other vtuber lmfao

I unironically don't comprehend what kind of person would think "yeah, I really want to listen to my vtuber tell me about how amazing her bf is for 40 minutes"

>>24303606
They both did, you gotta make a anouncement somehow

>>24303606
An immature womanchild (if that's a term that exists), that didn't mature in her 20s and acts like a high schooler who wants her peers to be jealous.

>>24303606
They don't actually like it, but they have to because it's in their ideology. Large portions of western people are actually religious cultists nowadays, they don't listen to their heart.

>>24294024
I think he is sus. And we need to call a emergency meeting.

>>24294024
Even if you don’t care if your oshi is in a relationship, I’m sure most of you wouldn’t want her to start streaming with her boyfriend and almost nobody else.

>>24303606
idk I stopped watching, just because if I have to spend 4 hours of my life to listen to a girl talking about her boyfriend I simply prefer doing something else, I already have to listen to my girl friends talking about their love problems, I don't want this shit even online

>>24303915
And I know this shit, I grew up in a religious cult. People are forced to take a stance by peer pressure, and they even pretend to like it because that's all they have. These people are scared and hurt by truth because it shakes their fake basis of existence. They don't even understand how some people can put actual people first and ideology second.

>>24294024
>>24294265
>>24296796
>>24296308
>>24297561
>>24299520
Wyatt literally said nothing wrong
https://files.catbox.moe/vf3jj8.m4v

>>24303606
Maybe because I'm not using "my vtuber" as a digital substitute for real, genuine romantic connection and merely view her as an entertainer whose content I happen to enjoy?
>what kind of person would think "yeah, I really want to listen to my vtuber tell me about how amazing her bf is for 40 minutes"
The same kind of people who are into shipping and romance anime?Seriously, you people's arguments only work under the pretense that people are engaging in pathetic "GFE" with their chuubas. Most level-headed people are not.

>>24304721
It's interesting how these weirdos are always slavering about how they're "level-headed" or the like, as if they're trying to convince themselves.

>>24299520
This makes me feel like I've ended up on the horror section of YouTube with the legit scary videos. I'm way too tired and stressed for this but kek.

>>24303606
They don't. It usually goes like this
>yasssss queen!! get a bf and talk about his dick!!!!!!!
>fuck the idol culture, we support you
>stops watching

as long as mori, kiara, baelz, and ollie are in hololive they will always have the gateway to collab with them, i could give two shits about their pasts or controversies, shit half the time i don’t even watch vtubers

>>24304787
Well, harp on, then. Tell me how I'm not. Tell me how the losers who resign themselves to anonymous virtual women as surrogates for genuine and fulfilling romantic relationships are the sane ones and the people who don't are bat-shit crazy ones. Hard mode: cannot use the word 'cope.'

>>24304721
>people who are into shipping
So literal fucking scum.

>>24305121
So the entire holo fanbase

Who knew pink cat cucks are just as bad as deadbeats.

>>24305371
They are worse, they think "even if we are cucks, it's not bad".

>>24305371
>>24305419
>You: Y-you are a cuck!
>What you subliminally mean:
>I assume you watch these chuubas for the sole purpose that you can employ them as substitutes for an actual girlfriend.
Projection. You're literally projecting, dumbass.

>>24305419
>>24305371
Cope seeth

>>24304277
Yeah but Nagatoro would 100% use sus though. She would probably use "mid" and "no cap" too, maybe even bussy.

>>24305512
>>24305617
"Guys, simping for and throwing money at a woman who openly has a bf and parades her boytoy like a trophy is totally not cuck behavior, you're just projecting and coping, holobrony"

>>24305665
If I don't perform these acts motivated by the pathetic delusions that I somehow possess an intimate and parasocial connection with that woman, then how can that be construed as cuckoldry? Did you source your definition of 'cuck' from some cheap third-world dictionary, ESL? Dumbass.

>>24305665
Shes in with hololive btw, yes even the jp side, cope and seeth holonigger go trow some money at rushia…. Oh wait, maybe coco? Oh never,ind

>>24305512
Tell me what you find entertaining about a woman flirting with her bf on stream. Go on tell me.

You don't need to delude yourself to think she's your gf like some of these simpletons, but that doesn't mean its entertaining in any way to watch some rancid whore who cheated on her supportive bf, verbally fellating her new boytoy on stream. If that honestly qualifies as entertainment for you then you really need to touch grass and get yourself a gf/bf
NTA btw

>>24305845
Sure nyancuck, you're simping for your queen because she's super entertaining and all that, her re-debut with one overused joke and "milking" stream were super fun and totally not cancer. Her myau streams are totally not parasocial shit too.
>>24305906
Hololive only cares about money, so of course they collab with whatever nets them more money. I only watch 2-view corpos and some indies that respect the medium, eat shit vshitshowcuck.

Oh hi there "in with hololive" SEAnigger, I was worried you had literally anything better to do and stopped posting the same shit every 5 minutes on every thread. I'm glad you're still /here/ and you even got a (You) from some newfag, I'm proud of you

>>24304277
my man
>>24305656
is a discussion that is age old in the translation community, translations should be professional and stand the proof of time, if you use a word that is trendy today, but in 2 months no one will remember it you are doing a bad job, moreover if that word is from a niche like games and memes, and not everyone knows wtf sus is you shouldn't do it. I get localization but if for example in the original the character didn't use slangs, then you shouldn't use them too in the translation, but at the end cruncyroll translators are shit and the fansubs of 10 years ago were way more professional than them

/sp/ here. Do you guys unironically take your imaginary girlfriends this seriously?

>>24294024
>I am totally shocked that the Vshojo girl isn't adhering to idol culture
No. You don't have to like her but if you feel like you've been stabbed in the heart because Nyanners of all people got a boyfriend that's your own fault, she hasn't exactly presented herself as pure.

can you niggers stop avoiding my filters so that I can hide all nyanners threads more effectively?

>>24306258
>using filters instead of just filtering them through your eyes like a chad
fucking weak faggot

>>24305927
>Tell me what you find entertaining about a woman flirting with her bf on stream. Go on tell me.
The same entertainment I find in a romance novel, or a romance movie, or a romance anime. It's cute and heartwarming watching basically two anime characters gush about each other so affectionately. All there is to it. It's also rather endearing watching a streamer normally as ironic and flippant as Nyan come to act so tender and lovey-dovey with a person she genuinely likes, and there's a satisfaction to be had watching her just... be happy. Why wouldn't I wish happiness for my chuuba?
>doesn't mean its entertaining in any way to watch some rancid whore who cheated on her supportive bf, verbally fellating her new boytoy on stream.
When you arrange words in this manner, anything can come off as negative. Why would I watch a group of infantile and sanitized streamers that hasn't the slightest chemistry when paired together in any which combination, whose jokes are just an endless regurgitation of the same jokes they've been saying for years (YABE, feet, ara ara, seiso, boin-boin, pettan, etc.)? See, Hololive doesn't sound so fetching now, does it?

>>24296269
On the other hand, a big enough yab can forcefully retire any vtuber.
I'm just going to be patient over here, this entire case looks like a minefield waiting to happen.

>>24294277
>>24294929
>Paying members of these girls all use them like social workers.
so? that's their issue.

>>24306330
Ah, so you're either a woman or an unironic cuck coping with his inability to start a relationship. Got it.
>infantile and sanitized streamers
You mean the ones who don't parade their bfs all the time while milking socially inept virgins? That's called "respecting your target audience", retard.
>hasn't the slightest chemistry when paired together in any which combination
As opposed to exaggerated gushing about your bf every 5 minutes or going on a 40-minute tirade about how he's the "bestest bf and so sweet and nice and buff and sex is great and stuff"
>whose jokes are just an endless regurgitation of the same jokes they've been saying for years
That applies to nyanshit too

>>24294024
>Muh idol culture
I'm willing to bet money that his definition of idol culture is just "no males". He isn't Japanese so why is he trying to use them in his example?

>>24296269
Summoning vtuber data analysts: what's the mid- to longterm outlook for vshitjo? Is there really an untapped market of normie cucks? Or will they crash and burn?

>>24306500
>No rebuttal.
Concession accepted.

>>24306500
NTA, but most normal men can enjoy romance or relationship discussion because it's not difficult for them to attain it. The fear of this shit is from people that can't get pussy and get hurt feelings over it. My condolences.

>>24306330
>first point
I can at least understand your viewpoint now, even if I disagree

>second point
Now wait a second... Didn't you just say that you find her streams entertaining because you like the romance aspect of their relationship? But now you're staying that the fact that she's a cheating whore who's gonna inevitably get dumbed, just me "coming off as negative"? Do you consider cheating romantic? If anything having some guy being with you in thick and thin, even staying hidden for the sake of your career sounds more romantic than dumping him for some manwhore chad. Did I just get baited with that first answer?

Also, why exactly did you bring hololive into this argument? Did you conveniently ignore what a horrible person she is just so you can deflect to muh hololive? Tell me what do they have to do with any of what we were discussing? Why do you automatically assume that I like hololive, just because I dislike how nyaners is conducting herself?

This flaming incident is no surprise to me.
People say that Japanese idol culture is gross, but idol contract is the greatest defence for today female streamer.
Because the world of Internet is driven by the very ethics of men and women in 1950.
No matter how unique a female streamer is, if a male is involved, it will become his accessory.
Only male-streamer fans or cuckold fetishes are pleased with such a situation.

>>24294024
He is 100% right and anyone still supporting Nyanners is undeniably a cuck. Which is fine if you're into that, but the people trying to deny it are making a joke out of themselves.

>>24306629
>trying to convince an unironic cuck simping for a shameless ethot who has stopped pretending that she gives a shit about her paypigs
That wasn't my goal, nyancuck. I'm just commenting on how retarded your take is.

>>24294541
nyanners is a slut and was more important for the growth of the vtubing industry in the west than any single hololiver (this is a bad thing. coco and holoEN were a mistake)

>>24304721
Even if you don't have any romantic interest in the vtuber, why would you want to listen to her talk about her boyfriend for 40 mins? It makes no sense.

>>24306832
Technically, the "growth of the vtubing industry in the west" is mostly melody's fault, while mouse, nyanners and vei just destroyed the boundaries between vtubing and twitch thottery.

>>24306832
she needs rape correction and fast

>>24294024
If you like being a 3rd wheel in a stream, because of a collab or whatever, I don't really see why you'd mind a boyfriend there too, but we have nothing in common and I will never understand you. Stay away from my chuubas.

>>24307051
You need rape correction

>>24297261
What about orca

>>24306662
>Didn't you just say that you find her streams entertaining because you like the romance aspect of their relationship?
When did I state verbatim that the sole reason I find her streams entertaining is because of her relationship? I was watching her before that all came about.
>But now you're staying that the fact that she's a cheating whore who's gonna inevitably get dumbed, just me "coming off as negative"?
Wait, what? I never said any of this, knucklehead. I don't know squat about her past relationships, nor do I care enough to validate the veracity of your claims about them. I was more referring to the 'rancid whore' and 'verbal fellatio' portion of that sentence, which sound like your own hyperbolic interpretation of who Nyan is. I don't consider her a 'whore,' nor do I consider her praise of Athel as 'verbal fellatio.' Differences of perspective, is all.
>If anything having some guy being with you in thick and thin, even staying hidden for the sake of your career sounds more romantic than dumping him for some manwhore chad.
Opposite for me. Having someone who is dauntless enough to suffer an incalculable amount of criticism and scrutiny just to have the pleasure of announcing themselves as your boyfriend is more romantic to me. Again, differences of perspective.
>Did I just get baited with that first answer?
You're the one who's literally inventing false arguments to put in my mouth. It's no wonder you feel baited, fool.
>Also, why exactly did you bring hololive into this argument?
To make a point. I'm not claiming that Hololive consists of those negative traits I mentioned, I'm just saying it's easy to paint the person you're arguing as silly when you construe his stance in a certain way. Is nuance lost on you or something?
>Why do you automatically assume that I like hololive, just because I dislike how nyaners is conducting herself?
Point to me in my post where I assumed you liked Hololive. I didn't.

>>24305927
>who cheated on her supportive bf
Still no proof of this at all.

you used to make fun of Japan's unicorn culture, it eventually spread west as well.
you don't want to admit it, so you're trying to come up with a special reason.
did you really think you were not stupid enough to be unicorns?
it's funny.

>>24297229
Is...is this bait? Or are you really that retarded?

Dont care, she’s still in with hololive,

>>24305927
please dimitrichad i know you are better than this
and if you are not please do not sully dimitri's image with your incel posting

>>24307239
>state verbatim
Was poorly worded on my part, I shouldn't argue while sleep deprived, but the argument was about enjoying the flirting they do on stream
>referring to the rancid whore and verbal fellatio portion
Fair, I'm only human and I put in a bit of emotional flare into my post to express my displeasure with her. We're talking about one of the most controversial chuubas after all, did you expect civility? But fine, let me rephrase that: She is a whore who is inappropriately flirtatious on stream. I also assumed you knew about her background, especially when you're so vehemently defending her
>having someone who is dauntless enough to suffer an incalculable amount of criticism and scrutiny just to have the pleasure of announcing themselves as your bf i more romantic to me
First of all, the long term boyfriend wasn't the one who wanted to stay hidden, it was nyaners who asked him to do it to grab the gachi crowd, which worked. You could argue that someone like that is a pushover and not as romantically exciting, but that's beside the point. Second, the current boyfriend didn't "have the pleasure of announcing themselves as your bf", nyaners messed up and they were forced to come clean
>to make a point
The point you made can be applicable to any chuuba, even nyaners, which is why I found it weird that you centered in on hololive, the go to boogeyman for vshojo defenders. Nitpicking aside, if I got this right, I apparently painted nyaners in a unjustifiably derogatory way, which prompted you to make that point. Well, if you have a nicer way of saying cheating whore, then I'm all ears. And if you're not bothered by that, then that's also fine, just know that others are and will be vocal about it

I get it nyancucks, it's hard when /vt/ isn't on your side and makes fun of you. You just have to grind your teeth and wait until another vtuber does something that takes the attention over.
If you keep coping in the threads then people are never gonna get bored because you're free entertainment

>>24308361
Shes in with hololive btw

>>24308361
Unlike holoshits we don’t cancel our oshi over a bf lmfao, take notes bronies stop neighing ans take notes

>>24308361
Facts
t. Formerly fandead

pink cat good

>>24294024
Absolutely

>>24294024
I mean social workers are usually trained and have connections to institutions and government organizations so they can get things done for their clients. Contact with clients s usually one on one through private conversations and sometimes accompanying clients to appointments as support. If Vtubers are social workers then they're very low end and useless. I think they probably mean that vtubers are virtual sex workers without the sex.

As a representive of "autistic manchild perma-virgin men", I'll just say that following VShojo is fucking stupid. Why would I watch them? They are from a completely different world than people like me. It's like the cliche of nerds vs jocks. We will never understand each other.
I will stay inside my Hololive bubble, where they cater to people like me. They don't mock me for who I am.

>>24308928
Who do you think watches VShojo, jocks and chads? It's the exact same people.

>>24308928
Don't they have someone over at Holo like that who is always drunk and pretends to be a rapper from the hood?

aren't there vtubers in relationships/married and no one cares? im gonna assume the problem is that she is shoving it down the viewer's throat rather than just saying "hey im married/have a bf/gf right now" and end it there. i need some discussion

>>24309134
Well yes, but usually they're open about it from the beginning. I don't think there are nearly as many cases of vtubers getting a partner mid-career.

>>24309134
If you ignore spergs, yes, that's the issue. She just can't shut up about him.

>>24309165
i never heard of that either, but you do you think it was a good thing to tell her fans she has a bf now or the other worst thing which was introducing him on stream.
>>24309181
i don't watch her but does she still talk about him live?

>>24309134
The character is fake and nothing about them is real. The person behind the character can be and do anything they like. People watch the character for various reasons including not caring about the real stuff. Then a vtuber brings in real stuff into their act and makes it part of their show and branding. People didn't sign up for that, they either leave or show their displeasure more actively.

You can probably argue that Nyanners had an age old 4chan reputation and people should have been aware and factored that in. For some reason they didn't or they're the kind that tell themselves they can fix her. When you get viewers like that it's delusional to think bringing in real life stuff isn't booby-trapped. She looked at the camera and grinned while pressing the big red button that says DO NOT PRESS.

>>24309374
Yes, both gushing about him on stream (also while streaming with him) and bragging about their relationship in her discord.

>>24294024
I love that Vshojo is normalizing vtubers having relationships and I love even more that it makes incels absolutely seethe

>>24309374
>do you think it was a good thing to tell her fans she has a bf now
I can respect both choices here. Most vtubers in relationships definitely hide, or at least never bring up, their partners, not necessarily to be deceptive, but because their audience doesn't want to hear it. On the other hand, if you're the kind of streamer who wants to talk about what you have been up to off-stream and have to hide a big part of it, it gets in the way, so it's better to just come out with it. Then again, now you face the problem that your 90% virgin male in their late 20s audience is getting pissed at you bragging about your cute relationship, and they're probably going to fuck off, maybe. I don't know, we'll see in a few months.

>does she still talk about him live?
She has basically flipped her schedule, stopped streaming altogether, and mostly talks about what she has been up with her bf whenever she does stream, which is going to get on a lot of people's nerves, I think. At least it did for me.

>>24309455
They're not normalizing having relationships. They're normalizing having relationships as part of their act so that different incels can make smutty fanart and gush about them on twitter. It's still toxic, it's just a different flavor.

>>24309401
>She looked at the camera and grinned while pressing the big red button that says DO NOT PRESS.
Based

>>24294160
They literally are.
>nooo chemically castrate yourself my extremely banal surface level interpretations can't ever be wrong!!!

>>24309509
i think vtubers are not obligated to tell their fans everything about what's going on in their lives. people just wanna watch cute girls play/talk about/sing cute things. when you talk about personal issues it just breaks the illusion some people have. i get trying to be transparent and make viewers realize "hey im actually a real person behind this 2d model and i have a life too!" but no viewer wants to hear about things that are unrelated to their health or projects they are working on for stream. especially their private life.

>>24309401
>She looked at the camera and grinned while pressing the big red button that says MATING PRESS.

Based

>>24297517
You really aren't unique as you mistakenly believe yourself to be.

>>24294024
Was vshojo ever a idol company

>>24306652
I have no problems getting girls and I still don't want to hear some bitch behind an anime avatar gush about her boyfriend while pretending to be my e-gf, kys with your false dichotomy bullshit.

>>24310234
>i think vtubers are not obligated to tell their fans everything about what's going on in their lives.
Of course, some vtubers, some vtubers straight up play a character and some just don't talk about what they do off-stream at all. Some do though, and that's when trying to hide a big part of your life becomes an issue.

Nyanners falls squarely in the latter category, which is why she would have a hard time hiding a boyfriend.

>no viewer wants to hear about things that are unrelated to their health or projects they are working on for stream. especially their private life.
I think there's actually a big audience for that, though. It tricks the viewer into thinking they have a much closer connection to the vtuber than someone who is clearly just voicing a character. Going gachikoi for someone who's open about everything they do and who you can relate to is much easier than a detached entertainer. Of course, when you can't relate to them at all, it backfires, like if they spend an hour talking about their chad bf.

>>24294024
Kinda.

Because the losers that are Nyanner fans get validation from each other in their own community, that's the thing, they don't really need Nyanners being parasocial towards them, the escapism comes from other fans. So it doesn't matter, they still get no bitches and are mentally ill and depressed but have each other, they even get to act like they're better than others, calling others toxic incels, etc.

>>24305122
Sure you might be less insane than that strawman.
Reality is quite clear, when a man see's a woman even on TV for 5 minutes his Testosterone spikes. Vtuber fans watch various girls for large amounts of time are easily producing 3-4x their normal hormone production, which is why you hear things about them self-improving constantly.

>>24294024
hes right yes

It fascinates me the amount of seethe that Nyanners generates from doing absolutely nothing and I continue to hope that she makes these saddos seethe into the foreseeable future.

>>24306190
oh they take it very seriously

>>24301271
mecha redebut is on the 20th, they are fixing their mistake

At this point id prefer watching nyan and Aeth over Connor and mouse.
Their Board game night was so hard to watch after Mouse started throwing her hissy fit because Connor wouldn't trade her pink. I know Connor can be an ass, but she made him out to be the bad guy for no reason. You can tell Nyann and Aeth were so uncomfortable, they carried so hard after mouse went into her angry and silent mode.

>>24309455
>pomushitter
>abhorrent opinion
Like pottery.

The truth people don't want to accept is that most vtubers are cucking their audiences. They're just smart enough to keep as much of their off-stream lives private as they can.

>40 minute torture session about her bf
What are they talking about?

>>24314360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_HqdyPWMHk

>>24307236
Orca's sent her a red superchat on every one of her new streams

>>24309455
>men make a hobby for themselves
>women come in and ruin it
a timeless classic, but don't worry they will move somewhere else and create a new thing that you will destroy when it gets a bit popular

>>24296263
>member or sub to vtubers
>tells others to go outside
Take a shower sweaty, people in glass houses shouldnt be throwing stones

>>24309455
>”seethe incels!”
>”also I make garbage content but you should donated and member!!!!”
LOL I cant wait either until pomu announces her 6 foot chad boyfriend and everyone in nijiEN follows suit. VShojo doesnt rely on any GFE to make it, but you nijifaggots always walk the line. I wonder how your whores would have done financially if they admitted to all having boyfriends from day 1

>>24314862
Were you just watching and jerking to male vtubers until the females showed up?

>>24294242
Wyatt told me how sex and anal sex feels like since im an incel

>>24313969
Nobody is getting cucked. I think most viewers are smart enough to know that they don't actually have a one-on-one relationship with entertainers. Only a few don't realize this. There are a lot of things in media that people don't want to see. They don't need to see people break character, have sex, eat, go to the toilet, masturbate, wash, soil themselves, and so on. There are people that do want to see that sort of thing to indulge their voyeuristic desires.

What is missing from this idol narrative is fans buying tens of thousands of cds or blurays of the vtuber and then destroying them in a fit of rage because they were caught leaving a hotel with a guy. This is different. This is about mixing in-character with out-of-character stuff for the purposes of generating hype and controversy. Add in that the business model they chose was to generate parasocial bonds to easily manipulate losers into giving them money. That business model is used just as well by any relatable dude gamer. What makes it unique is that it's about the character portrayal breaking down.

>>24294024
who? Also why should I care what a rando thinks?

>>24310385
no, just a group started by a camwhore who funneled all her money into it then picked up her whore friends along with two nobodies
>silver has and always will be coomerbait
>zen is a tranny
>mouse still lies about the severity of her illness
>vei is no better than your average british slag
>pomf pomf kimochi never mention this to me
>gigguk's side piece only there so they can collab with gigcuck himself
>froot cheated on her boyfriend while he was on deployment

>>24294024
Yes, though he looked like he was coping and malding.

>>24306210
lel even camwhore thots know not to mention bf's let alone streaming with them, rubbing this shit into the nerds etc. No idea what's her endgame here but seems like she's aming for a female audience now, despite what nyancucks claim there's not a lot of men willing to put up with this shit.

>>24294024
He was 100% right, anyone who enjoys watching her fawn about her fag bf is either a cuck, faggot. Or just desperately delusional and cant believe all the money and time they wasted on her was for nothing.

>>24294535
HAG LOVE

>>24294535

thought there were like ~25. not that theres a huge difference

>>24299520
We failed to raise Nyanners right...she picked a boyfriend just as faggy as all her dad's.

>>24306190
there's different subsections.
The thing with this particular one is that she's a well known liar in the community and her "fans" were repeatedly asked to be wary of what they were getting into and to not fall too deep.
This thread and every subsequent nyanners thread is populated by the people who ignored that advise and now got cucked on stream.

>>24305906
there's zero chance she will even notice my oshi so I have no stake in whatever she does with the more "open" holos.
Also pretty obvious that the collabs she already had didn't really endear herself with the HoloEN girls, since they have all been one and done.

>>24324023
but this has nothing to do with lying, if anything it's the opposite

>>24296269
nah her holo collabs have already ended, no one from EN really liked her enough to do a second one

>>24315929
>Only a few don't realize this.
Now explain the legally enforced and well utilized love bans in idol contracts still widely used today

>>24300592
/vt/ was a mistake I bet Gunrun paid out of Vshojo's pocket to actually have it made when there really was no need for a whole chuuba board when it was just hololive that blew up like that.

>>24294160
>sus
Don't worry anon, I noticed what you did there at least.

>>24308957
Seems like they actually try to clean their fanbase out of filthy nerds, only to replace them with the most generic twitch normies and perhaps women with this relationship shit. Why do you think they've started reaching out to those regular twitch "fleshtuber" dudes in the last few months right before the boyfriend reveals? Rather than creating "Vshojo box" their goal is to just blend in with regular twitch audience flows.

Holy shit, this thread has a lot of mental illnesses coming from both sides of the argument. Wyatt and anyone fully agreeing with him is a faggot for even considering VShojo (and VTubers in general) part of "idol culture"

>>24319501
That's what I heard too so why bother comparing apples to oranges

>>24311992
>Vtuber fans watch various girls for large amounts of time are easily producing 3-4x their normal hormone production, which is why you hear things about them self-improving constantly.
Can someone actually confirm it? I would use a test boost.

>>24326253
Can confirm. My voice pitch gets lower and I can lift more after I watch my oshi.

>>24299202
Isn't Nyanner's bf also an anime boy? If so, it fits.

>>24297808
She left a bit of a loser for a better man it happens. If I saw nyan and aethel irl I'd hand him a condom, give him a knowing glance and say 'Stay safe bud' before winking at nyan. Don't get why people are riled up about this.

>>24294024

>>24309455
yep, keep the cuck audience faaar away from my chuubas.

>>24308079
PLEASE TAKE A SHOWER

>>24305371
Shut the fuck up Anon <3
Speaking of horny keepers.

>>24328354
Just shut up

>Fans manage to piss off every fanbase
>They manage to get exiled from many boards
>It's everyone else's fault
>eternal victims yet always the aggressors
>can't criticize them or you're called a zhang (nazi)
> Brainwashing and alienation throught idol culture, making them extremely possessive, prone to attack other fanbases and vtubers
> Destruction of the family. CEO blatant said he wants their fans to be obsessed with their idols and forget real relationships.
>blatant nepotism
>numberfags
Holojews

Completely false

There is literally no evidence that Nyanners lost ANY support after coming out in a relationship.

>shojofags now trying to do damage control
you love to see it

watch male streamers
>if a male has a gf he usually just keeps quiet about them
>only passing mentions if they appear on stream
>understand that their streams are not about their romantic life
>just focuses on chat and gaming
>worst case scenario the gf is also a streamer and bullies him or chat when they show up but will no longer be relevant once she leaves

>people posting on /vt/ expect us to believe their LARP about having a sex life
Nobody a woman or man that anybody else would touch with a ten foot pole types the words 4chan into their url bar, nobody believes you so you can stop pretending and actually make actual arguments morons

>>24330345
>watch male streamers
no

>>24330003
> holobronies trying to stir up drama, AGAIN
you love to see

Most big streamers keep it private not only because it can potentially be dangerous to their partners but because they end up becoming their accessory/prop and most people are just put off by content that wasn't what they came in for. If my favorite chuubas were in relationships or suddenly got into them but it was a private matter that didn't impact the streams, I wouldn't mind in all honestly.

There are mommy bloggers and irl couple bloggers who make a living out of it so I don't see why vtubers can't but don't expect people to stay, and definitely don't expect them to be silent if the vtuber leaned in heavy into the parasocial aspect.

>>24332115
is it really drama if she did a huge stream about her new boyfriend lol
the mental gymnastics at work

let's show these roasties what we're made of, holobros

>>24332250
nice cognitive dissonance, holobronie

>>24303606
NPCs who gave up on their on lives so they try to second hand experience life through the people on their screens.

“western vtubing” does not have a culture and isn’t a culture in any stretch of the imagination. Complete cope to make a retarded argument that places men at the forefront of the blame while also trying to victimize them in the eyes of the populace in the most pathetic way possible

want to hear a joke?
veibae's numbers after soda
want to hear a funnier joke?
nyanners numbers after aethel
want to hear the best joke of all?
zentranna

>>24332687

>>24332250
>is it really drama
Yes.

>>24294024
Based

>>24304277
Based

>>24300923
>>24301493
Okay that's kinda funny

>>24303606
Anon you know not everyone is desperate for sex or seeking attention or even wanting to be in a relationship right.

>>24303606
roasties

When is /vt/ gonna understand that there is a real fucking person behind these avatars and they all have thoughts and feelings and personal lives?

>>24303606
How do you even function in life? Most of the people around you have a spouse and you're spiteful because you don't?

>>24306901
Maybe they think it's cute and they aren't invested in retarded GFE autism you fucking moron?

>>24328794
Jesus man, just listen to yourself. You have to realize how fucking weird you sound, right? Saying that makes you look just as insane as the people that think female Vtubers should be boyfriendless virgins until they die.

>>24297229
fuck off nyranners

You're not a Vtuber. Nobody cares about your Twitter.

>>24334544
>>24334925
>>24335045
shipfags are the same brand of parasocial loser as the "vtuber as substitute girlfriend" crowd wearing a different coat
get actual friends you nerds

>>24335259
Anon what's more autistic and concerning?
Deluding yourself into thinking you have a remote chance with a virtual girl who streams for entertainment?
Or shipping people in a visible established relationship?

>>24335419
Why the false dichotomy ?

>>24335568
Answer the question, retard.

>>24335419
Not him, but they both sound autistic as fuck.
>Deluding yourself into thinking you have a remote chance with a virtual girl who streams for entertainment?
This one is self explanatory.
>Or shipping people in a visible established relationship?
Being so invested in the relationship of people that are NOT your friends or close to you in any way whatsoever is also really weird.

>>24335589
So if you say "I'm really happy for you" and congratulate them you're just as weird as people wanting to date virtual anime girls?

>>24335719
That's not really what I'm seeing people are defending. If that was all it was, then who cares.
What I'm seeing is people going as far as saying gushing for 40 minutes on stream about your boyfriend, bringing them up constantly on stream, and generally just talking about their relationship is totally fine, when in reality that just sound fucking boring to anyone that isn't parasocially attached to the streamer.

>>24332560
>seething this hard
LMAO

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>>24297229
Go back to the nyancord faggot, she cant even be bothered to stream and when she does all she talks about is her new bf. Thats not being happy that trying to shove your happiness in your "fans" faces. Now watching her get skinned alive, that would make me very happy

>24338283
hololive was a mistake

>>24337226
Propaganda from this twitter nigger is disgusting considering the severely toxic feminism in south korea and the whole corruption in government via the 7 goddesses feminist CULT
They just ignore it all to say feminism good, women good, men bad, anti feminists bad!
God I hope they get what they deserve, whatever that might be objectively

Then just don't watch her, simple as that. There are plenty of other chuubas who don't flaunt around the fact that they have a boyfriend.