/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2427638
If people actually hate her why are there rarely Kiara anti threads anymore? She was just the contrarian flavor of the month.

>>2427638
Because I do what /vt/ tells me to do

The more threads people make asking why people hate Kiara the more people will post about hating Kiara
Neverending cycle

she likes Veibae, good reason to hate her

>>2427667
Actually good point.

Because you have SEAmonkies and seagulls and both are mentally ill.

>>2427638
stupid voice

>>2427638
I don't hate her. Hating her would imply that I think of her, and I don't, I just don't like her personality.

>>2427638
she doesn't appeal to me, but i dont go out of my way to shit on her cause that's retarded
her fanbase however, are fucking annoying rancid shitbags, but thats entirely seperate from kiara herself

>>2427819
A real pity, I wonder why does she attract that kind of people...

>>2428066
This is what happens when you let people treat you like their therapist

>>2427638
i don't because im not scitzo

>>2427667
>>2427712
huh maybe I should check out Veibae

>>2427656
cuck

>>2427659
What motivated me was noticing her sub count drop bellow 900k after her stream ended. She worked so hard, and yet...

>>2427638
She's very easy to bully because she can be so unwarrantedly full of herself on certain topics and so insecure about other things.

>>2427638
Hey Kiara, I just don't like your character and voice, but I'm sure you're pretty cool irl.

>>2427638
i dont like her, but i wouldnt call it hate
all my hate is reserved for calli

>>2427638
Hey Kiara, stop talking about shit all the time, delete your roommate's social media, and stop doxxing your coworkers.

i hate her fans more than her honestly. she should stop caring about her numbers and clout chasing but we know she won't

>>2427638
I like her
she is funny and cute

>>2427731
you kfniggers always blame everyone else to justify the fact that your boss is a failure in every aspect.
>it's the SEAniggers
>it's the seagulls
>it's [fandom]
>it's the discordtrannies
just take the hint. accept that Kiara is low quality garbage and people here dislike her. end of story

>>2428899
How is she a failure?

HoloJP & HoloEN will have some good conversation without kiara

not like HoloTalkShit(Aki)

I always see people on this board claim that KFP are terrible, but never see any evidence. Like there's evidence of chumbuds running harassment campaigns, but what has KFP done?

>>2428940
She considers herself a failure

I don't actually hate her, I just pretend to because it's funny

Kiara hates herself and has impostor syndrome so she already did the job for me.

>>2429599
WHEN THE IMPOSTER IS SUS! DOODOODOODOO DOODOODOO

>>2429648
SUSSY 100%

>>2428958
how was she talking shit if all the questions were approved by aki's manager

>>2427638
I don't hate her, I'm even subscribed. That said, I still think is good to point out when she does something wrong (like when gura was trying to give a speech in the last DST collab or the shitshow with the UNO collab) so she can get the feedback and improve. Nothing good comes of a fanbase that is only a hugbox...

>>2428899
This you?

>>2429527
>Read one of her roommate's latest post
Not anymore, it seems. Antis failed after all.

>>2427638
Her outfit looks goofy but I like her.

>>2428899
How do i get a cute seagull gf, i cam listen to her tall shit about Instagram girls.

>>2428973
Look at any clip of Kiara crying on stream. It's always because of something KFP said to her.
KFP looks for antis everywhere because they can't deal with the fact that they are the biggest Kiara haters

>>2428899
you seamonkeys have always been the worst posters since /hlg/
I stand by that point I said months ago. Both /jp/ and /vt/ would be much better if there was a rangeban for all SEA countries.

>>2432033
I can literally only find one clip of her crying on stream because of a KFP member.

>>2427638
She hates herself, i just followed her wish.

>>2427638
I don't hate her and all the "Hate" that I've seen after here last Uno stream as really gotten me to sympathize with her and give her another chance. And I'm glad I did, her Mario kart stream was really cute to watch and her little jokes has made seem very endearing.

Here interaction with her fans and enjoyment of playing games that she actually enjoys has made me go from a clip watcher to a stream participator.

She's soon going to be the second vtuber I will have ever join membership on youtube, it just depends if the Stock markets crashes and I lose alot of money.

because she strategizes too much

>>2427653
They get banned because a few weeks ago literally 3/5 of the catalogue was dedicated to kiara anti posting, I just saw 2 of them get 404'd within 2 posts.

>>2432602
They get deleted because they usually resort to roommate posting fast.

>>2431850
I had a seagull gf, trust me you'd rather stay an incel.

>>2427638
Not a single person in Hololive competes with their peers as much as Kiara. Why would I root for someone like that? As satisfying as it would be to see her end up the last EN to 1 million, she won't just because she'll make sure she does everything possible to get ahead of Ina.

>>2432782
i don't get it, if she only cares about numbers why does she keep streaming long jrpgs like ryza that dont attract viewers?

>>2432850
Because she is that selfish. She must get high-numbers streaming content that appeals specifically to her.

>>2432850
She streams plenty of other games too. She likes RPGs so she streams them. Plus she can play RPGs for 8 hours at a time which is probably better for her sub count anyway.

>>2427638
When I see other Holos I see someone who keeps within the confines of their workplace as a place of cooperation and hub of potential friendship
When I see chicken I see someone who is legit trying to be superior to her colleagues in a inherently non-competitive environment

>>2432954
that makes no sense, how is it better for her sub count? afaik the best kind of content to get subs are games that can produce viral clips, like horror games, and slow-paced rpgs are absolutely NOT that

>>2427638
i don't ever want her to talk to my oshi again

>>2428973
Didn't Moona almost cry in a membership stream because of KFP backlash after the first time she met Kiara with Pekora?

How she acts like she can just force herself in between a naturally organic friendship like Moona and Pekora's makes me seethe unironically.
More people should put themselves in Moona's position and imagine that some random hyper psycho has a crush on your best friend and just starts jamming themselves in between your time and plans and you just have to let it happen.

>>2433005
Because the longer you stream the more likely people are to stumble upon you. Your channel is more likely to get recommended to people when you're live. Maybe if you get a million view clip it will boost your count, but what do you think? You think she doesn't care about her numbers because she doesn't stream horror games 24/7 hoping she gets a clip that somehow blows up? There's plenty of clips of vtubers playing horror games and most of them haven't gone viral.

>>2433104
The hatchet's been buried weeks ago, and Kiara's gonna build another KFP with Moona in the JP server. Let it go.

>>2432850
Because she's retarded. She wants people to watch shit that people don't want to watch.
Not that she tries, she will jump on whatever bandwagon that is popular with jp holos but will never stick to it.
>>2433108
Nigger, if you want new viewers the best thing to do is stream minecraft, because the youtube algorithm LOVES minecraft.

>>2433104
It's really not as big of a deal as you think it is anon, it's not like she tried to sabotage Moona or something.
The only thing about that interaction that I understand people complaining about is the clip where she complains about Moona being in too many fanarts, just commission them yourself if you want to tell artists what to draw.

>>2433108
that's a really big reach, especially the part about her supposedly doing it on purpose, like, do you even have a source for that? the likelihood of a channel being recommend has to do with yt's algorithm and how closely the content matches your preference. even if you get recommended her channel, the worst possible way to experience a streamer for the first time is watching her in the middle of a long-ass playthrough of a niche game where you have no idea who are the characters and what's going on. to me, it sounds like you just made all of that up, honestly.

>>2432981
Months ago, when the idea of hololive EN gen 2 was being floated around she stated verbatim that there were enough ENs already and they didn't need a new generation because people had trouble watching all of them already.
Fast forward to now and there's multiple days in a week where all of them aren't streaming.
You could tell Kiara literally doesn't want more competition.

>>2433104
looks like we got a necromancer over here

>>2432069
I agree, if only to illustrate the point that everyone hates Kiara, not just the seaniggers.

>>2433344
but I love her, anon

>>2433202
I honestly think that both Kiara and Moona forgot about that.

>>2433260
>it sounds like you just made all of that up
Made what up? I said that her streaming 8 hours of an RPG is better for her sub count than 2 hours of a horror game hoping she gets some viral clip. And she doesn't stream "niche games" either. She streams shit like Nier and Fire Emblem. The only niche game she's streamed is Ryza. Just be honest with yourself and accept the fact your chuuba is a numbersfag anon.

I don't hate her. I just dislike her. Mainly the way she speaks and her fake lesbian thing. I don't like calliope either. They just aren't funny or interesting. If either of them are collabing with someone I DO like, I still won't watch. I don't leave comments on videos or talk about them at all except for this post. Nothing against them personally, and if people do like either her or calli, more power to them. I just find them annoying. The other 3 ENs are okay, though.

I have a hypothetical for the Kiara antis.
If in a few months Kiara becomes Coco's first HoloEN collab and in turn becomes a target for zhangs, would that make you guys glad? That the hatemob grows.

Or is it a "only we are allowed to shit talk her" thing? Maybe you hate zhangs even more than her and rally with everyone else to put the chinks in their place.

>>2433457
did you even read my post?

>>2427638
I like how she makes people seethe. I just want her to stop numberfagging, trend chasing and take the Aki route and do whatever she wants. She'll get a dedicated fanbase and the love she deserves. I.e. be yourself and develop your niche.
Kiara love

I'm going to post this in every Kiara thread: FIX YOUR FUCKING MIC YOU DUMB CUNT
I don't even hate her, but I can't watch her streams anymore

>>2427638

shes a blm coal burning anti-white whore

>>2427638
No matter how many legit reasons are given, you stupid kfpfags will never accept an answer and just replay with "seething" or some autistic paragraph.

I genuinely dislike her, but her fans are even worse. The sooner she graduates the better.

>>2434144
Too bad she'll never graduate unless Hololive goes bankrupt. You can stay mad forever.

>>2427638
I hate Kiara because Ina is superior than all the other holos in every way

cope kfpfags

>>2427638
I thought you don't come here anymore kiara.

>>2434462
Only a matter of time before she spergs out. Either someone will beat her in something, or someone will superchat the right thing at the right moment. She is a ticking time bomb.

>>2434696
you've been repeating this for the last 6 months.

>>2434710
Except I rarely make posts on this board. That means others are saying the same thing. Accept the fact that Kiara just isn't likeable to a lot of people for legit reasons.

>>2433264
She's scared of newbie EN gen 2's surpassing her like what happened to Aki.

>>2434750
i'll consider it

>>2433623
SEAnigs vs Changs is something i am waiting in anticipation, everytime a new Holotalk is announced i pray is Coco for the absolute Chaos of Double Orange Woman

>>2433030
If that ever happened this board would have been burned to the ground so i doubt it. If anything what happened was quite the opposite there was more art including moona than kiara in her own art tag.

>>2431100
>roommate
Newfag here, what is roommate? Is it her "other channel"?

>>2435718
I shouldn't be spoonfeeding but
Roommate = Person behind the vtuber

Stilll not out of 898k yet. I thought some potential KFP would subscribe once they heard the 900k was lost but I guess not. I guess she'll let it naturally hit 900k and do a re-debut 900k karoake stream once she confirms its legit this time.

Why would you hate Kiara when she IS /vt/?

>>2427638
>inb4 copypasta
>inb4 spacing

If you want my honest thought with no bullshit?

I don't hate Kiara, in fact I couldnt bring myself to say I dislike her entirely, but there is just too many cons to her personality that make me scratch my head how she even got this far to begin with.

>She is rude
>She is loud
>Seemingly needs to make it about herself no matter the situation
>She doesnt want to or just cant read a room ever
>She seemingly cares for no one else but her numbers
>She comes off at times like she thinks shes better than this
>She is the type of girl who would say "oh your dad died? I know how that feels my dog had a bad stomach ache last week, it sucked."

And I'm sorry in terms of talent she is so average she wouldnt look out of place next to a loaf of bread at Wal Mart. I know someone will go out there and say "hur but the girls say none of this is true and that she is amazing and loving and beautiful" as if that holds any water when they say it on stream where they need to be professional especially since the company wants the gens to have some sort of bond forced or not. And all you need to do to find proof of these things are most of her collabs with pretty much anyone especially the EN girls.

She is the generic new york theater student skank, which is ironic her being a foreigner, but she has all marks of being one. Shes the kind of girl who would be on a Downy commercial and think shes now an A lister, she could have a song with 10k views and suddenly shes Billie Ellish, or simply put she comes off as someone who had ONE break ONE time, and she now thinks everyone is beneath them.

And, I get that maybe she is putting on a character, a persona, for the camera, but if thats the case then the only logic behind being this bitchy and shit of a person is to make us HATE her, which I doubt given her past is what she wants.

In the shortest way possible to put it, she is an average talent with a superstar ego and its become utterly grating on anyone who isnt a complete sociopath or in complete denial.

>>2433623
It would be nice if the zhangs spam Kiara.

>>2433238
Obviously she was "joking" but the fact that she even had thoughts about Moona in being too many fanarts is incredibly shallow for a person.

>>2432069
Risu...

>>2433623
Consider the fact that I hate the reddit dragon for being the reddit dragon but I hate chinsects even more.

>>2427638
The way you use words and the way you structure your phrases reminds me of exactly how Kiara talks. It may just be me but I have hunch feeling that you, OP, are indeed in fact Kiara.

>>2435172
That happened a long time ago, and it was probably more because of people calling her a leech than because of KFP.

>>2427638
Oi Kiara stop giving a shit about antis you dumb chicken. Everyone has antis, get over it. It's not like they disturb your streams or harass you personally.

>>2435753
Thanks anon. I don't like to be spoon-fed as well, but I've lurked this channel for several days now, still unsure about the exact meaning of that word.

>>2427638
Please stop coming here Kusotori

>>2427638
I don't really hate or even dislike her. Most of my experiences with her have been when she collabs with Mori/EN collab and she's usually OK if a bit clingy. I do have a problem if she tries to talk over the other girls like in the Uno collab but she was totally fine in the Jack Box one.

>>2427653
she is not worth the 2 days to 1 week of ban

besides we all know she sucks, she herself knows it too

>>2436510
>kiara antis are too retarded to ban evade
lmao

>making the effort of evading a ban
are you bed bound or something?

>>2427638
She's kind of annoying at times and a lot of what she does feels like fake acting. I get that she's trying her best, but trying to force emotions she thinks are going to be funny misses more than it hits. You aren't going to repair a phone by using more force to tighten the screws.

>>2436263
meds

>>2427638
I don't hate her, just the KFP chuds. Her fanbase is insufferable similar to kpop and minecraft stans

>>2436723
what have they done?

>>2436723
>chuds
>stans

>>2436510
Basically this

>>2436723
>chuds
>stans
Get your axe wound checked out. Then go back to twitter.

>>2427638
Kiara is the cures that no one asked for but is that punching bag we all like to hit. Deal with it.

>>2427638
I mean, KFPs should really learn how to ignore bait. Teamates literally had it worse like a couple of months ago but look at them now.

>>2437145
they mostly did in /hlgg/, but with /vt/ came many newfags that have the need to bite every bait

>>2427638
I dont hate her, thats reserved for chinks, but i thinks shes pretty obnoxious at times when shes trying too hard to be funny.
She has her moments tho.

>>2427638
Everything she says is either insensitive or cringe. But that's only a problem because the way she does it isn't funny.

>>2433264
Kek. I hope they don't get any lazy asses for gen 2 (but that's probably asking too much), just anyone who could put in more hours and a little more effort would be enough to kick the entire gen 1 out of the water.

>>2433643
So much this. If she's doing well for herself (and she is), she needs to stop focusing on making numbers grow directly and just find her niche instead. YouTube is a marathon, not a sprint.

>>2427653
ollie happened, plus kiara isnt much of sociopath lately
>>2427656
>free thinkers when orange woman bad
kys

>>2433643
>be yourself
lol

>>2433264
Well now I'm REALLY gonna watch EN2 over EN1, especially if Kiara is streaming. Thanks Kiara!

>>2427638
Hate is a strong word to use. I personally had to drop her a few months after debut when she started crying every other stream. At first I felt sorry for her, but when she started losing it over the smallest things (i.e. having technical difficulties), I concluded that she must either be mentally unstable or baiting hard for saviorfags. She can be entertaining and is great at having conversations with chat, but I'm not watching streamers to be their fucking therapist. I also found her a bit obnoxious during collabs compared to her solo streams, mostly because she would be talking over the other girls or saying something real dumb. Her perpetual insecurity about her numbers is also something I can't stand, especially when none of the others in her gen seem to care much.

>>2436263

I don't personally hate her, im just not interested in her content, but her fans, kfpfags are genuinely annoying.

The only people who hate Kiara don't realize that she is a decade+ veteran of the idol scene who effortless embodies her role as the heel of HololiveEN and effortlessly produces kayfabe that rakes in the cash. She is the perfect embodiment of hey kid you wanna fuck an anime?

>>2443851
Go away Kiara

At this point I only hate her for forcing the TakaMori bullshit since day one just to imitate pairings like NoelFlare or CocoKanata and to win over the yuri shippers.

Calli herself sounds like she's really not into it but just keeps her mouth shut since everyone is pushing the pairing now and it's too late for her to say something like she's uncomfortable with it without triggering the shippers.

Oh and there's that attempt to leech off Pekora earlier on too I guess. But looks like she learned her place and stayed away from her unless she was actually asked to do stuff like the previous Minecraft JP server stream.

Read her roommates twitter from before debut. She hates CIS white men and loves blm.

She hates a majority of you and takes your money.

>>2444546
Don't use my oshi to post garbage please

>>2427638
>I have only watched a few streams
>Kiara seems so hardworking and full of joy... Like she is trying her best to cheer up whoever is watching her
interesting how you know so much about her by watching few streams. why do kfp do this?

>>2434778
What exactly happened with Aki?

>>2444546
chicken is a retard who gets her political opinions from her twitter timeline

>>2427638
I think it's just a few very vocal group of /cgl/ roasties mad she actually broke through an became an actual idol.

>>2427638
Hate is too strong a word, I just think she's annoying. She kills the mood too often in every collab stream she's in, try hards in solos. Round abouts everything back to her even in compliments to others. Always striving to be the center of attention without ever having anything to back it up. I can not tell if it's autism, esl, or being genuinely self centered but she's very rude and doesn't take well to joke, which again only kills every stream she collabs in. I feel bad for Mori who has to carry every stream they do together. Dess.

>>2427638
I genuinely think she's unfunny and annoying.

Plus her shit euro-english accent and voice is extremely annoying
Her roommate is also extremely irritating, people blow it out of proportion but I do her roommate scummy

Her gimmick/schtick is also the weakest of the bunch. She never plays into her persona while all of the other members do to some extent. That's probably why I like Amelia so much because she plays her character so well, while Kiara just feels like she's only doing V-Tubing for the money/fame

There's also >>2436007 too

I don't Kiara deserves all of the harassment and hate she gets from the rrats and antifags, but there is a lot of valid criticism towards her. If I'm gonna be honest she's probably the most likely HoloMyth to graduate first, which sucks because she does have good potential for a comeback, but I think her chicken brain has gone to mush and is too retarded to do anything

But what do I know I'm just an Ameliafag

>>2427638
I hate her for the same reason everyone else hates, because she's doing better than my oshi.

>>2427638
I want to beat her ass into the ground and not for sexual reasons

>>2427638
every time im coming to /vt/ i see more than 5 threads about kiara and this is fucking annoying

>>2444167
it's not kiara, it's just some closeted fag who watches professional wrestling

>>2427653
It flares up during any big EN-collab, she is more tolerated when she keeps to herself

Is thar true about the recent rumors of her using bots for subs?

>>2427638
because I do what /vt/ tells me to do.

All of the ens who aren't gura and amelia are very awkward

>>2436564
It's insults like these that really brighten my day. Thanks, anon.

>>2456046
>who aren't gura and amelia
ogey

>>2429599
>>2429648
>>2429692
I can't fucking take it. I see an image of a random object posted and then I see it, I fucking see it. "Oh that looks kinda like the among us guy" it started as. That's funny, that's a cool reference. But I kept going, I'd see a fridge that looked like among us, I'd see an animated bag of chips that looked like among us, I'd see a hat that looked like among us. And every time I'd burst into an insane, breath deprived laugh staring at the image as the words AMOGUS ran through my head. It's torment, psychological torture, I am being conditioned to laugh maniacly any time I see an oval on a red object. I can't fucking live like this... I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't! And don't get me fucking started on the words! I'll never hear the word suspicious again without thinking of among us. Someone does something bad and I can't say anything other than "sus." I could watch a man murder everyone I love and all I would be able to say is "red sus" and laugh like a fucking insane person. And the word "among" is ruined. The phrase "among us" is ruined. I can't live anymore. Among us has destroyed my fucking life. I want to eject myself from this plane of existence. MAKE IT STOP!

>>2427638
I don't hate her but it is true that she sometimes says questionable things

>>2427638
I hate people who are more successful than me.

>>2447079
She felt like she got left behind compared to her peers and kouhai's. Aki actually has some things to be salty about like how cover heavily encouraged collabs with genmates around when gen 3 first debuted. So gen 3, 4 and 5 were very close and could rely on each other. But gen 1 is kind of just a rag tag group compared to them when you compare the group dynamics. Aki is the senpai but she doesn't feel like a senpai at all because she still doesn't know how to appeal to a bigger audience while still being herself.

>>2427734
bs

>>2433264
Can't wait for her to collab with EN2 just like she did with Moona and ID2 so you can call her a leech.

>>2459737
We've been calling her that ever since she made up the lie that she was a huge fan of Pekora.

>>2427638
used to hate her till I fell in love

>>2435753
My autism is too strong for subtlety so i never picked up on that

>>2427638
ever since she mentioned wanting to collab with coco i dont hate her anymore. I do still find her voice a filter that i cant overcome though.

> Didn't really find her debut that interesting.
> Started watching her for a bit when you were trying to branch out and watch new chuubas.
> Found her personality a bit annoying but she's cute so it's fine.
> It's not fine, you just find her annoying.
> Stop watching her.
> Go back and watch collabs with all of HoloEn.
> She's still annoying, seems kinda rude, and isn't really that funny.

It's a shame, cause she has a cool design and does some good content, but I just find her annoying to watch. If she acted differently and maybe had a lower pitched voice, then maybe I'd watch.

>>2427638
>Thinly-veiled Kiara hate thread #875109324712384098123571320
WHO ASKED FOR THIS???

>>2427819
>her fanbase however, are fucking annoying rancid shitbags, but thats entirely seperate from kiara herself
This.
I don't really like Kiara but I have nothing against her.
Her fanbase on the other hand are the most annoying autistic pieces of shit on the plant

>>2428580
She's not.

>>2427638
She acts like she just saw the top watched vtuber clips and form her personality out of that

>>2462707

>>2427638
I really don't. As a matter of fact, I think I'll get up early to watch her tomorrow. She's an embodiment of what I enjoy out of HoloEN.

>>2462820
Yes theyre insufferable retards just like kiara but at least shes trying to be appealing, her fans are just fucking disgustingly unaware

>>2455358
Yeah its not the fact that kiara is a sociopath retard, free thinkers when orang woman baad! im sheep, shes definitely not a cunt

>>2463809
damn, based

>>2427638
People hate nyanners too. People don't forget/can't leave behind the past. Just like a rape accusation, the effect never leaves you regardless of whether it was true or not.

>>2427638
I don't hate her but I don't like her either

>>2427638
I'm impressed by her ability to speak 3 languages fluently

>>2462820
I think it's sunk cost fallacy. They saw the design, got attached, thought it might get better, hasn't, and don't want to leave.

I want to be Kiara’s pet!

>>2429599
>>2429648
>>2429692
>>2456436

>>2427638
Because you keep making threads like these

I don’t, bandwagoning is too fun, however.

>>2427638
I don't really hate her, but I do dislike a few things about her. Her voice is a big one. Also her extreme energy. To a point something like that should be a good thing about a streamer, but Kiara and Ollie for example take it too far imo, it's tiresome for me. She's also an attentionwhore and constantly tries to be in the center of attention, it makes her collabs very frustrating.
But I do think that holotalk is a very cool idea, and I know people may not see some of the things I listed as bad qualities.

Day of the Tsunami when for the SEA who makes these every day

>>2467210
post the Kiara long nose edit of this.

>>2462707
Every Kiara thread is an anti thread.

>>2427638
This thread has played out a hundred times kfp
You ask why people hate your oshi
Anons give a list of reasons
You reply meds
And life goes on

>>2476999
>And life goes on
not for kfps

>>2447491
Damn, that sucks. Poor Aki. Is there any sign of her situation improving?

Shit fanbase, forcing takamori, anoying voice, 1 hour gameplay and 5 reading superchat

>>2427638
She is annoying. And her KFP is even worse.

>>2427638
Because of (You). I don't actually hate chicken

t. KFP anti

>>2436007
>>2447522
I know there is no actual criticism here, but I wanted to reply anyway.

>She is rude
Is she really? Isn't it funny how every girl that has collabed with Kiara so far has said that she is a very caring and considerate person and even people that haven't collabed with her have said that? Kayfabe is not being rude, guys, as much as you want to believe that she is rude because she tries to play boke too much and because your osshi is too quiet or shy to play the straightman, that doesn't make it true. A clear example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbgQGYCTOX8
Subaru went with Kiara's flow and played into her joke, laughing with her to the end. This is the kind of thing that had some people seriously thinking she was "upset", being a "menhera", etc, etc, when it happened, even though it was a clearly a joke. When this kind of thing happens with the EN girls and they have a harder time playing off this japanese humor routine it comes off even worse for Kiara, because people are gonna try even harder to make it seem like she was incosiderate and lots of you are retarded enough to actually believe it just because your osshi stuttered or didn't know what to say. Up until now, the most rude moment among the En girls was Mori's fault when she told Kiara "No one cares", I find it funny how no one remembers that cruel moment and yet, if it were Kiara, she would never stop getting shit for it.
>She is loud
Sometimes she is. Specially when setting up a comedy act, just like... You know, the JP girls? Thats why she is usually loud in collabs, because she is almost always the only one trying to be entertaining. For the most part, in Kiara streams, she is chill, occasionaly being loud when she has a strong reaction to something.
>Seemingly needs to make it about herself no matter the situation
I know it might seem hard, anon, but have you perharps ever had a genuine conversation? You know, one where you share your experiences? Because just listening to someone isn't a conversation, when people talk about their own experiences, what they're doing is called "empathize", they try to show they are understading in order to bond with the other person. Kiara both knows how to give space for people to talk and to empathize with them, holotalk is a very good example of this if you're not a socially inept autist.
>She seemingly cares for no one else but her numbers
Yeah, sure does, thats why she encouraged Gura to celebrate her achievements. Thats why she tells her audience they shouldn't SC if they don't take care of themselves first, thats why she is playing a debuff game without even being able to receive SCs in streams, not because she likes it and cares about it, but because she only care for her numbers.
>She comes off at times like she thinks shes better than this
How so? If anything, she comes off at times like she thinks she is worse than everyone in her Gen.
>She is the type of girl who would say "oh your dad died? I know how that feels my dog had a bad stomach ache last week, it sucked."
Yeah, she sure is:
https://youtu.be/eONtW19l3O0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwZkk5hFkQs&t=2s

>>2427638
I don't hate Kiara but she's a menhera whos behavior attracts schizos, which attract hate, which attracts even more schizos, it's a positive feedback loop that won't break until Kiara herself stops her menhera behavior.

>>2427638
t. Kiara

>>2427638
I don't watch Kiara streams a lot but she can be funny at times. Also she has a tendency of ruining her streams by saying or doing dumb shit so i can be really annoying for a lot of people.

however i don't hate her, i hate her autistic fanbase who keep spamming jp indie vtubers with english using that stupid "KFP Employee" nametag

>>2479943
KFP fag trying hard here
>Is she really?
yes. the rest is her fake persona
>Sometimes she is
she is always loud
>holotalk is a very good example of this
she uses her fake persona to act nice
>Yeah, sure does, thats why she encouraged Gura to celebrate her achievements. Thats why she tells her audience they shouldn't SC if they don't take care of themselves first, thats why she is playing a debuff game without even being able to receive SCs in streams, not because she likes it and cares about it, but because she only care for her numbers.
Yes. KFP truly are delusional. she is a huge numberfag.
>b-but she plays debuff game
because she has shit taste in videogames and is more retarded that ame.
How so?
do you watch her collabs?
she thinks she is better than everyone
>why i am last? i need to be first!!!!
>Yeah, she sure is:
yeah it is
>hey Ame, my mom watches my streams, how about you? do your parents watch your streams? my parents are proud of me, how about yours?
>hey Gura, are you cryyyying? oh wow, are you gonna cryyyyyyyy?
>wow Ina nice superchat, guess you don't gotta worry about reading it out, huh? cause you don't ever read your superchats, huh Ina?

>>2481033
Literally no arguments.

>>2433623
>Risking drawing the bugs to my oshi by association.
No.

>>2481033
you are borderline illiterate and you type like a monkey

>>2464229
People hate Nyanners for being a shallow scene girl.

After watching her roommate get pinned and humped on I will never be able to hate her. I like her voice anyway.

>>2481532
I'm in the same boat sort of
after watching that video, I'm just glad she has a nice gig instead of resorting to whatever the fuck that video was supposed to be. Still doesn't make me like her, but I'm at least happy for her well-being compared to where she was.

>>2428899
We get that there are people who dislike her; that's fine. You're allowed to, and you're welcome to freely express that on /vt/.
It"s the people who roommate post, false flag as KFP or other fanbases just to make her look bad, spam threads of her to get other people annoyed with her, post animal abuse, and otherwise schizopost that we have a problem with. That goes beyond normal dislike: like when someone says they are trying to force her to graduate, kill herself, or they're doxxing her so that she gains stalkers that will scare her into not streaming.

>>2479943
>because she is almost always the only one trying to be entertaining.
See, this shit, this shit right here is why people hate you fuckers. It's not just the blind loyalty, it's the backhanded bashing of others while, at the same time, hiding behind them when people call you out on your bullshit.
You want my honest opinion on Kiara's """entertainment value"""? I think she's incredibly unfunny if your sense of humor is any more developed than "haha streamer said thing loudly!" I've heard people say that she has good chemistry with my oshi, but every "good" collab they've had was good because my oshi carried her sad fucking ass and initiated jokes. Kiara didn't even add on to said jokes, the general joke structure between the two is basically this:
>Hey Kiara *takes a light hearted jab at Kaira*
>*Autistic defensive bird noises*
Every fucking time. And the one collab where my oshi didn't take the initiative, you know what happened? We were stuck with an entire fucking stream filled with Kiara's loud, unfunny horseshit while everyone else just kind of sat in the corner, only occasionally chiming in. Kiara has absolutely no charisma, her only talent it attracting batshit white knights like you.

>>2481532
Yeah, that was hot.

>>2427638
She's overall legit cringe and comes off as full of herself

>>2427638
Kiara stop coming here..

>>2479943
Hey kusotori, thanks for taking the time to post on /vt/.
I really liked your diablo alpha streams.

>>2427638
She can be annoying sometimes, but that's it. I generally think most people like the vtubers they're trashing and it's just them having a shitty day.

>>2487679
>sometimes

>>2485095
Chill mate. I said Kiara almost always tries to be entertaining in collabs. Since you're too much of a fag to read between the lines, let me spell it out for you: Kiara imitates JP girls trying to create situations that could lead to potential 'moments'. The other girls rarely do it, because they are different types of streamers, they tend to prefer a more natural approach to streaming, they don't focus so much on being "comedians", even your osshi with her puns doesn't. This means that during collabs, there is way too much silence, way too much quiet and a space to be filled by someone willing to put herself on the spotlight. The contrast wouldn't be so grating if at least the girls followed up on it more often. Like your osshi did once:
https://youtu.be/S9vRltTC7Y0
This moment was quite possibly the highlight of the stream, but imagine for a second that Ina hadn't followed up on it. There would have been just a ton of stupid retards claiming Kiara is rude for setting up this inoffensive exchange. Just like there are in almost all streams because the girls are never ready to get out of their comfort zone. And before you use this excuse, being an introvert doesn't count, Kiara IS an introvert too. And finally, don't complain about white knights when the only reasom you wrote this retarded argument is because you thought I said the other EN girls have no entertainment value.

>>2488046
first of all you said
>because she is almost always the only one trying to be entertaining.
but by your logic, it's even worse, she's the ONLY one that has to try to be entertaining, the rest do it without having to piggyback off of someone else's jokes or schtick

>>2488046
>I said Kiara almost always tries to be entertaining in collabs.
No, you said:
>she is almost always the only one trying to be entertaining.
That's completely different, why would you even try to lie on an image board where someone can just scroll up and see that you're full of shit?

>>2488097
>>2488104
Did you even bother to read what I said? I didn't deny the "only one" part, I detailed that she is the only one with the comedian approach the JPs have while the girls are more tradional western streamers that have a more natural flow. The other girls really aren't trying as hard to be entertaining when there are full collabs, this is noticeable by everyone and people often comment on it. There is a clear contrast in what they are trying to do, are you gonna pretend that isn't the case? Are you gonna pretend your osshi is willing to carry the spotlight?

>>2488199
it's not about willingness to carry the spolight, it's that Kiara has to try so goddamn hard to do what the rest do naturally, none of the holo EN girls are my "oshi" either

>>2488199
kiara should stop with her JP approach then when none of the girls follow up. and no, it won't create dead air like you claim. bitchin kitchin did perfectly well without "set ups to create an epic moment"

>>2427638
For me it’s the annoying fake voice. I’ve seen how her roommate talks. I have absolutely no idea who or why she decided to talk like that.

>>2427638
Anons are extremely bored. Kiara is fine.

>>2427638
She should just get Bamco permissions and play Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Vesperia.

I don't necessarily hate her, but I view her in a similar way to how I view pikamee. She might play games, but she shows little to no interest in most of them. She might attract weebs and neets, but she's very much a basic normie.
Top it all with an ear-grating voice and the way she focuses on THE HATERS, actively looking for sympathy, paypig money and NUMBERS.
That said, the proper response isn't to spam shit threads, it's to just not watch her.

OP sucks cocks. But because I know there's folks in the audience, /vt/ didn't used to hate kiara outside of bantz. Until she showed she literally couldn't take the slightest of criticism (Think back to the superchat causing her to breakdown slightly and it ending with the superchatter and her having to hash it out in Twitter DMs)

Then she responds to a criticism in a stream where no one was saying it in chat, and it was only on /vt/ this shit was said. This lead to anons giving her some genuine advice to just stop being so thin skinned and to focus on making content, instead of worrying about the negativity that /vt/ posts for shitposting and bantz here. Seemed like she had taken the advice, until one stream where she was asked to imitate a baby in a party game with folks, and just acted like a poster from here.

At the end of the day, if you know anything about how she was like prior to joining Hololive, this all just sounds like typical Kiara once again falling into the bad habits that would end up getting all bridges in the idol world she used to be a part of burned I understand that at least some of it wasn't her fault, but there were several times throughout that in which she did plenty of people dirty and now here she is, doing the same passive aggressive shit that landed her in hot water in the past.

I personally don't get bent out of shape for Kiara, simply because I think she is in effectively a mental prison of her own creation with this kind of shit. And it wouldn't take much to get out, but her inability to just move on and stop being a cunt is only gonna make those walls higher than they already are. This is in spite of having being handed a golden ticket to fame and fortune through HoloEN, and essentially a fresh start. In a lot of ways, I'd say she needs to count her blessing and just stop doing things that would endanger this for petty bullshit.

>>2488942
Pikamee at least isn't a numberfag and is actually funny

>>2489135
oh shit i cant believe i wrote that i meant to write pokimane

>>2489160
oh LMAO

>>2489126
that image is a big reach. it's much more likely she was looking on twitter/youtube comments. i do agree she needs to stop addressing criticism on stream though, because it actually makes deluded retards here think she's paying attention, so they start shitting up the board thinking she's gonna see it

>>2488435
No one cares about that though. The girls enjoy Kiara's airhead nature and the surprising things she says. Youtube comments, reddit and discord servers for the girls are fine with it too, so is most of the online community surrouding hololive. The only place that is bothered by it, mostly because of autistic retarded reasons, are some anons here, lolcow bitches and doxxniggers. Quite ironically, the only places not officialy recognized like the others. This is part of the point, this so called "criticism" is so superficial and petty that it doesn't warrant recognition if you're a functioning decent and normal human being.

>>2489273
The image was the most recent example, along with the criticism only seen on /vt/. And of course other things you can find bydoing your archive reps.

But yeah, I suspect we're in the lul because of the mods going nuclear on chicken threads a week or so ago. I suspect we'll see them thunder back when the bans expire in the coming weeks if this shit continues escalating.

>>2427638
she gave me hearing loss

>>2489591
it's pretty obvious nobody here uses twitter, because they keep underestimating its influence. there's a ton of people talking shit and its even easier to send hate directly to the person. all she has to do to avoid /vt/ is not come here, but twitter is a part of her job. and there were definitely some people complaining about the collab on youtube as well

Love and Hate are different side of the same coin

We hate because we love her

>>2489434
They care anon, they are just not saying anything because that's how the platforms they operate on work. Di you want to know how I know?
She tries by far the hardest, streams the most, and has been from day.
And her numbers are still relatively abysmal. She 100% of the time gets lowest response on polls.
Stop coping and face reality: The hololive fanbase tolorates her (and you faggots by extension), and her superchat numbers being so ridiculously high despite all this is because you guys are the closest thing the Hololive has to a cult, and that's saying something.

>>2489967
what can you say to this post, other than its maniacally delusional? the only remotely true thing here is that shes the least popular holoEN.
THIS is true coping. when you have to create a fantasy inside your head in order to deal with reality. you're either a very dedicated troll or in a very bad place in life.

>>2490290
hmm idk, maybe refute some of the points, wait you can't

>>2489126
I think Kiara will only change if someone she knows or esteems comes directly at her and tells straight up everything that she needs to get rid of. Otherwise she will keep doing the same mistakes endlessly.

>>2489967
Kiara is okay, but she would be a lot better if she stopped trying so hard and started having more fun

>>2490366
all of those things have been proven wrong multiple times before. in the end, if this guy is willing to believe things that not only have a single shred of evidence to support, but also have evidence against it, what can anyone possibly do? if he has chronic asspain from kiara and kfp, it's not my problem

>>2490539
based

It's been explained countless times how tactless/obnoxious/self-centered she is, e.g. with coco, kanata on twitter and aki/shion on holotalk, along with her numberfagging, and collabing with shuba. Her voice is also grating as fuck. She says she's a huge pekora fan, but somehow didn't know one of the most basic things about pekora, tried to make the collab about herself, which reeks of leeching/number fagging. Her voice is also grating as fuck.
The worst part are the fans, who just calls everyone buzzwords like seanigs, antis, cope, seethe etc., and shit up this board and threads where she doesn't belong. If we didn't have to see her plastered everywhere there'd be less actual antis.

>>2490546
My points:
>Kiara has the lowest numbers in EN
>Kiara is the biggest tryhard in EN
>She consistently gets the lowest numbers in what must now be hundreds of clipfag polls that regularly get 100k votes
And yet...
>all of those things have been proven wrong multiple times before. in the end, if this guy is willing to believe things that not only have a single shred of evidence to support, but also have evidence against it
I was honestly half-joking about the cult bit, but if this guy, and potentially others like him, have actually deluded themselves into thinking that not only any of those are wrong or have no evidence, but that there is actually evidence AGAINST it...
No, no, this has to be a falseflagger. It has to be
Right?

>>2493506
you're a disingenuous bitch, here's what you actually said
>her numbers are still relatively abysmal
>the hololive fanbase tolorates her
absolute delusion, wake up.
and i never denied she was the least popular, learn how to read >>2490290
also lmao at this
>Kiara is the biggest tryhard in EN
that's a bad thing? anyway, in this regard, she arguably loses to mori, who actually works on music when she's not streaming
you can timeloop as much as you want, you'll always get called out

Don't hate her. It is tough to hate anyone who tries that hard. However I am just not a fan of her voice and her constant shipping is annoying as fuck.

She tries way too hard.

>>2493938
How is that an issue?

>>2481033
Imagine getting this frustrated over some girl with low self esteem.

Because Kiara embodies "It is not enough to succeed; others must fail."

she sounds like a try-hard weaboo in an rp server

>>2495602
how so?

>>2495602
weak rrat

>>2492945
>She says she's a huge pekora fan
She even fucking stole her laugh

>>2492945
>>2496657

>>2496991
Bill Murray is a Akai Haato fan fyi

>>2496657
is this one of those SEA tales about witchcraft like that guy that got his dick magically stolen and hanged in kitchen wall for cheating on a girl? How do you even "steal" someone laugh?

>>2499150
Apologies friend, but there appears to be a misunderstanding. When I said stole, I mean copied completely, that her laugh is artificial to mimic Pekora's iconic laugh.

>>2494366
If you cant see why being a tryhard and being a hard worker are two entirely different things, you are either wasting everyone's time who is trying to actually explain, or you have hit the very peak of cognitive dissonance we could have Kiara call Gura a "bitch ass cunt fuck" on stream and you still wouldn't listen or have some gold medal winning mental gymnastics to cover for her. I get liking someone, but this is bordering on mental insanity.

The only problem with Kiara is she acts like a typical 3D roastie. If I wanted to deal with selfish egotistical holes I'd just visit the local starbucks. Vtubers are supposed to imitate 2D, not remind you why women are garbage. Why would I listen to a woman who always sounds like shes 5 seconds away from screeching "I want to talk to your manager"?

>>2500934
Whoa, Pekora doesn't have her laugh anymore?

Is there a list of what each vtuber hated for? I like them all and only want to laugh.

Kiara has an annoying voice

I like her, just that she's the HoloEN member I like the least.

I didn't even watch her for the first month after debut. She was just trying too hard. A lesbian phoenix idol adventurer that owns a fried chicken chain? Seemed like she just threw everything at the wall, hoping to see what stuck. I tried her first few streams after that, but she just turned me off completely. Eventually, people convinced me that she got better, and that you only watch her for her endless chattering, so I gave her another chance. She's definitely getting better as a solo streamer, though she definitely still needs to work on her group collabs, that Uno collab was a trainwreck, though she was much better in the April Fool's collab.

I've found myself watching her more than the rest of HoloEN these days, but she's still the one I like the least. Mostly because the other girls are getting stale.
Gura was a lot of fun when she started, with her constant joking and jinxing herself, but these days she's just turned into a sound generator.
Calli has just turned into "GUH MY DAWG"
Ina and Ame have turned into sound generators as well.
Kiara's chattering is still interesting on it's own, and you could get rid of the game 90% of the time, and her streams would still be entertaining.

But, the realization that the least liked HoloEN was the one I enjoyed watching the most was what pushed me into looking more into the indies. Hopefully, VSinger and Gen 2 will breathe some more life into the girls.

>>2489434
>the only place that doesn't like her is the one place that doesn't have censorship or a million white knights willing to trample over your online reputation for good boy points because you chose to be honest

>>2501126
holy shit nigger what the fuck are even ranting about?

>>2427638
Because I love her so much it makes me angry when she does something dumb like numberfagging

>>2502484
You do know that just because people are not gonna say you're a fag and call you nigga doesn't mean people can't voice their negative opinions, right? Twitter and discord are a cesspool of degenerates that might be even worse than this place and it feels tame in comparison, except for discordniggers as I said before.

>>2495602
this but unironically.

>>2427638
I noticed that it's mostly women who hate her

>>2493707
>all of those things have been proven wrong multiple times before. in the end, if this guy is willing to believe things that not only have a single shred of evidence to support, but also have evidence against it
>ALL of those things
Previously however...
>the only remotely true thing here is that shes the least popular holoEN
I know how to read anon, please understand that it's just a bit hard to follow a raving lunatic that literally contradicts himself every time he posts.
Here, another point which you apparently agree on (despite "ALL", fucking retard)
>that's a bad thing? anyway, in this regard, she arguably loses to mori
You've perfectly already answered your own question: Mori is a tryhard, but has the numbers and community sentiment to justify it, meanwhile the chicken can barely keep her head above water. Can you even imagine if she slowed down to Gura or Ina's level? She would have fucking ID numbers.
>you can timeloop as much as you want, you'll always get called out
Well if all you're going to do is scream "DELUSION", with absolutely no points of your own then, eh, I can live with that. No real sweat off my back, after all, it really only drives your reputation here even further into the dirt, and seeing you actual cult members get bullied and seethe is funny.

>>2427638
kiara thread day ruined

Because her whole shtick is to be one massive pity party where white knights come and give her money to make her feel better. Her voice is really annoying. Her model is shit. She's not funny. Her fanbase is the most annoying of all the holos and can't take any form of criticism. And last but not least she smells.

>>2502484
>the only place that doesn't like her is the one place that doesn't have censorship or a million white knights willing to trample over your online reputation for good boy points because you chose to be honest
Never stopped the absolute retarded niggers that inhabit this place to break containment countless times to @ at her or comment on her stuff, and guess what is always the same type of retard that gets called out in these threads for acting like deranged schizos.
But you still prefer to do it here, you know why? because you know you won't get traction anywhere else, all you would achieve is to look like a retard screaming into the void once you have a name attached to your rants.
It's pretty simple actually if only people that actually hated kiara posted in these threads they would never get over 30 IPs and die under a 100 post, that's the reality you have to struggle with once you get out of this place, so you won't.

in b4 schizo bumps this