/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24243733
Mike is about to bring the end of vtubing as we know it.

anime became good again and are refusing to stream in the evening

>>24243733
They are rich now and don’t care/need their fans

Google 五月病 and tell your oshi you love her a lot this month.

>>24243733
>Are they blackmailed maybe?
>so weird that all of them suddenly have depression.
>suddenly

Rate OP.

>>24243733
They're over worked. None of them joined with any concept of how busy they'd get once Hololive brand went globa.

>>24243937
0.5/10

>>24243937
WHAT THE FUCK IS BLACKMAIL/10

>>24243733
>Join company in hopes of producing music
>Sit there for 12 hours a day entertaining retards while streaming some game you probably don't give a shit about
>No end in sight
Honestly I'd be depressed too

>>24243733
They've rest on their laurels
Competition is shit
A third power shall rise
To stir them from slumber once again.

>>24244040
No wonder suisei took a month break

>>24244040
>12 hours a day
Most holos don't stream that much in a whole week

>>24244040
Better work life than 99% japanese companies

>>24244040
>sit and make money
you schizos are so ungrateful for your lives

>>24244519
>Office jobs are fun
Fuck off

>>24244040
Alternatively
>Join company because you love the vidya
>Spend most of your day at boring office meetings and recording sessions etc for projects you don't give a shit about
>have to literally beg publishers to play the games you want
Honestly I'd be depressed too

>>24243733
mori

>>24243733
While it is great fun to watch squeaky anime girls, playing around with video games, being cute, but there are barely any new video games, that are worth playing...

Every year, have only a few titles worth playing (if that), and you can make good content for only a few dozen hours out of each. So when your business is reacting to video games, you are kind of fucked.

They could revisit older titles, or join a niche community of a multiplayer game, to stream about, but each is limited in viewers.

Each vtuber is probably facing their own mortality, that they are ultimately just girls, and other than their holes, and breeding, they are not that interesting, each of them are just dicount Pekora-s, and their streams have diminishing returns, especially as they age.

Honestly at least some of them, should try to be racist political commentators (on other platforms, since youtube would not allow it), because listening to anime girls, talking in broken english, about current day politics, economics, and dropping racial slurs would be hilarious, refreshing, and it is a demand that have not yet been fulfilled.

>>24244769
Don't forget you're not allowed to break kayfabe or swear, plus there's always 1-4 employees/managers watching your stream at all times. Guess a more meta negative is that you yourself will never be more famous than the character you're playing as. King of nowhere type shit

>>24244975
An actual intelligent take, very refreshing.

>>24244993
>you're not allowed to break kayfabe
lmao i fucking wish

>>24243733
Ayame hasn't streamed for a month because shes busy getting dicked or something, Aqua is busy recording lines for some game or something so that'll take awhile cause retarded, Shion is terminally depressed and is having a mid life crisis, Botan comes back tomorrow she went and got the vax update shot, thats basically everyone being memed about right now

>>24244975
I always felt like Coco was the only one to go against the mold and constantly try new shit. You had the News streams/videos, Meme reviews, English streams (before that was ever a thing), even showing off a strongly alternative model (Think only Ollie has replicated this since). Meanwhile everyone else seems content doing mandatory gaming streams and nothing else. Even karaoke streams are an extreme rarity which is a god damn shame considering how great most of them can sing.
They really just need to spice up the formula

>>24243733
They have May blues.
>>24243960
Also this. Hololive would be like a side gig to everyone but now they're busy with voice recordings, cover songs, practicing dances, advertisements, probably more pointless meetings (meetings to plan meetings), FPS tournaments(Towa) etc.

>>24243890
i love you a lot this month anon
not just this month but especially this month

>>24244975
>Honestly at least some of them, should try to be racist political commentators
The gimmick should work for a short while, then audience will abandon these cringe brainless girls, and go for other vtuber or actual political commentators.
Imagine famous soccer players become political commentator.

>>24244993
>you're not allowed to break kayfabe or swear
Do you even watch streams?

>>24245776
I don't care what ball chasing niggers think. It would be just funny to listen to anime girls being racist for a few hours, every few days (more frequently as demand grows).
>gas kikes peko

>sit and play videogames or talk for hours
>Make hundreds of dollars
What the hell is their problem? They've got it easy as shit. They don't have to work 10 or 12 hours standing and then commuting though a shitty part of a city worrying about getting shot. Does easy life make people disillusioned to reality? Do people not practice introspection and try to understand the world around them and its absolute stste?

>>24245776
>Anime girls doing Internet Blood Sports
That would sound awesome and hilarious until they start getting banned a bunch of times and having to tone it down.

Pressure from competition.
Overwork.
Sense of stagnation.
It's a decent recipe for the mental exhaustion.
At least they can openly mention their exhaustion, so It's still not worst.

>>24243733
There's dozens of them, each with their own lives. There's always going to be someone feeling down, or not healthy.

Sadly, 2019 and 2020 Hololive are never coming back. Treasure your memories and your oshi while you can, but you'll just have to recognize that time has moved forward.

>>24246919
funny thing is, I've soon realized that this apply both on streamers and on fans.

>>24244160
>third power
I hope it comes out of some shithole 2nd/3rd world country that no one expects like BR

>>24246919
Everything went downhill after the permissions drama. It forced the company to be more "respectable" to make them something the stuffy old farts running JP companies would want to be associated with.

>>24244993
Nigga their debut stream rewatching is always about how they broke kayfabe

>>24247057
>Big tiddy tanned anime girl tubers
>Uses donations to commission porn of themselves
>Kayfabe? Lmao you already know who I am, your spunk glued my double page spread on "Brazilian Mommas magazine #29"
>Swears like an ex-dump truck driver turned sailor
>Gunfire and dogs barking in the background constantly
>Never once asks for permission to play games
>Shrugs off DMCA's like cartel bullets
Sounds fucking kino

>boohoo woah is me life is so hard playing games and talking to lonely losers who shower me with love for a few hours a day while I make bank
all of these stupid women have plenty of money to get mental help or whatever they need and if they can't find a man it's literally their own fault for thinking they deserve more than they do

>>24244769
cover does seem to love pointless meetings. it's gotten very annoying when streams are cancelled for what eventually is revealed could have just been told to the streamer

>Imagine you're a holo now
>you are now a cake or a hag
>you are now contractually obligated to take singing and dancing lessons
>this is because the ceo of your parent company cant make up his mind if you're an idol or a entertainer
>thinks you can be both
>Because you are a cake or a hag you're biological clock is screaming at you
>can't act on it though, since this is the best job you can possibly get, and your retard unicorn fans will throw a shit fit if you so much as mention a male
>Because of this your office is a clambake, and on top of all this you're pretty much forced to either yuri bait for the social contact you crave, or become a autistic depressed solo streaming mess
>don't forget you're also contractually obligated to release covers and songs too
>You have to pay for them yourself though
>You're technically supposed to hold live concerts to show off you're an idol
>Guess what you get to pay for that tool
>You have to pay for nearly everything out of your own pocket
>Cover takes half your superchat income, and gives you your salary from it.

There's a bunch of other things too, like emotional feedback from the treatment of others, or just being exhausted from over work.

>>24247249
really retarded take
you sound like a roastie

>>24247249
it's be nice if they could choose to be either an entertainer or idol

>>24247249
That's why if they're about to retire they should reach out to their highest paypig and either marry or date them, and if he can't then just keep going down the list until someone does.

>>24247249
>Pay for everything
This is what bothers me. Cover isn't a "so solly, we weally new cumpony, no money" anymore, they're pulling at least a million bonaroonies every few months. You'd think they'd learn from the fucking Chris situation but apparently not. Never forget when Kanata had to borrow god damn light bulbs of all things.

Almost like having to pander to unicorns makes you stressed out or something.
Almost like all of this shit started to happen when they went full-on unicorn pandering.
Almost like all of the fun got sucked out of them.
Really gets the noggin joggin.
Bring back 2019 and kill that fucking shit festival idea so none of this AIDSfest happened.

>>24247446
They make more money than they know what to do with. Cover should definitely help more but having to pay for projects and stuff isn't a big deal.

>>24247605
How about you kill yourself instead roastie

>>24247605
>CEO decides become idol chuuba company
>blame the unicorns
anonchama...

>>24247620
It 'is' a big deal because projects and stuff brings variety to their otherwise mundane streams.

>>24247800
No it isn't. They have plenty of money.

>>24247843
>plenty of money
They're not as loaded as you think. Nijisanji on the other hand is a fucking whale right now.

>>24247843
Wait a minute. Fucking ESL faggots strike again.

>>24243733
>being this new
>not understanding the cultural maymay in the month of May for Japanese work culture
>why is op a fag?

>>24247984
Every single holo is making over 100k a year, fuck off

>>24247988
I really hope you aren't trying to say I'm ESL, that would be pretty embarrassing on your part

>>24248049
Yes because you're misunderstanding what i'm saying. It's a big deal 'because' they (Cover) have money and resources to facilitate variety yet Cover chooses to do nothing with it ("it" being their money). That's a problem and it's at a point where their own employees are having to buy their own resources for company use when the company itself can easily buy these things.

>>24248049
>financially illiterate
are you really this retarded anon? Do you even understand how Japan's economy is structured and why their wagies literally die working in the office?

>>24248157
I already said I agree that Cover should be doing more

>>24248259
>equating streamers to wagies
The only retard here is you

>>24248322
corpo streamers in Japan, get it right you faggot.

>>24244040
>12 hours a day
Lol
This guy is giving xqc's numbers to people who stream 2 hours every 2 day

>work 6 hours a week
>your work is playing videogames and singing
>have a 100K salary at minimum
>so sad so overworked :(((((((

>popular millionaires with a golden ticket acting like they have it rough
Those women are so funny.

>>24247249
You sound like an entitled woman who doesn't know how good she has it.
Playing video games for a few hours a day while the world bends over to praise you and to give you money... the horror

>>24248493
Don't forget about people constantly supporting you, making fanarts of you for free, buying your merchs, showering you with attention...
It's a really harsh field to work in :(

>>24247249
>you are now contractually obligated to take singing and dancing lessons
That's good for them in the long run, anon. Why is exercising a bad thing?
>this is because the ceo of your parent company cant make up his mind if you're an idol or a entertainer
Everyone that joins hololive would know this by now, no one is forced to join any company. You know what you sign up to.
>don't forget you're also contractually obligated to release covers and songs too
That's wrong, the ones to make covers make it for their fans, cover is not forcing anyone to do anything.
>You have to pay for them yourself though
Yes, unless it's an original song. See all the bloom original songs. Everything else is extra, I agree it's bullshit and cover are being greedy fucks.
>You're technically supposed to hold live concerts to show off you're an idol. Guess what you get to pay for that too
Never heard about this, do you mean solo concerts? Not sure how those function, do you have any source on this?
>There's a bunch of other things too, like emotional feedback from the treatment of others, or just being exhausted from over work.
That's true in any line of work in Japan some more some less, at least they can take breaks and are actively encouraged to do so.

There's a graduation in the works. Expect the official announcement within the next two months.

>>24243733
It's finally time for them to start releasing moaning voice packs so they shall rise once more and make millions cum.

>>24243733
Your meds. Take them.

>>24252661
Fubuki nursing handjob ASMR next year then?

>>24243960
Yeah. Hololive is now a Big Company and the talents have obligations to do the long list of Serious Idol Business. They don't have the energy or time left to go goofing off with fun things like they could in 2019-2020

>>24243733
All of them got pregnant by me

>>24243733
tl;dr nothing good lasts forever

>>24247772
You don't know what an idol or a unicorn is. Fuck up.

>>24243733
That's what happens when you work in a psychological prison full of sociopaths.
It slowly destroys your souls and takes away your desire to live and emotions.
The final result of this is either a form of suicide or a burnout.

Once that state is reached there is no recovery and the person can never tolerate the same unhealthy environment again.
They would chose to be homeless rather than work for soulless monsters.

>>24243733
The music side of the company is not doing well. Since, that was the main reason many JP's joined a lot are getting burned-out and disillusioned.

JP idols were always entertainers, it was never one or the other. Instead of doing tv variety shows they play games on the internet.

>>24243733
how many ips have you changed by now?

>>24259416
the games side is also having problems. cover's incompetence is omnipresent

>>24244975
>they are ultimately just girls, and other than their holes, and breeding, they are not that interesting
The hags can't even be good breeders

>>24245456
They are not busy with all that shit.

The work needed to porpel Hololive to where it is now can take a toll on people and burn them out. That's the benefit of releasing new generations so the older Holos can rest up and have a more relaxed schedule from here on out.

>Be idol company
>Don't actually help your talents produce music outside of your designated ones(vsingers)
>Do a poor job even at that(Irys various tales of woes)
>Profound incompetence with your games permissions
>Lost your 2 biggest moneymakers(and one of them was a big pillar of support for the rest of them)

Could be a lot of reasons as to why some are getting burned out, a possible graduation might be happening as well and they're all depressed about it.

>>24266505
Cover incompetence is outstanding.

>>24266208
Oh, but they are.

>>24243733
They just can't keep up if there's no special events or lives to prop them up.
The normal streaming life is not for them.

>>24244993
the last part just applies to mori. no one else in hololive wants their roommate to be famous, thats the entire point of vtubing retard.

>>24243890
This term only applies for people starting a new school year or entering a new job, don't think it applies to them.

>>24244040
If you're saying they're 12 hours a day streaming you haven't seen a single stream of a Hololiver. That's a weeks worth of streaming for many of them.

>>24244993
Shouldn't you be sucking Soda's cock around this time veibae?

>>24246026
Every time I see someone said thing like this it make my blood boil. I have seen Xqc off stream and I am fucking glad I am not a streamer, streamer burn all of their livelihoods for a career that last for like 5-6 years at best. The amount of money they made in that short amount of time probably only equal to normal job you can do until retirement so I wouldn’t say they have it any easier
Also streamer is not the only talking job, and even then I am sure as hell streamers talk just as much if not more than them

It's work.
People get tired of work. It's that simple.

>>24245175
Well Pekora is taking a month break or so for same reasons as Marine (throat), I think Miko is also planning a break soon and a whole month from Suisei too.

>>24247243
These bitches need to be taught how to handle meetings with these middle management faggotbots. If you go to a meeting from a position of power there's nothing better than just slapping your dick on the table and telling these manage-niggers that this whole thing could have been an e-mail and that a fucking monkey could do their jobs.

>>24247249
>Because you are a cake or a hag you're biological clock is screaming at you
Airdrop me in. I can fix this.

>>24246046
it would be funny when they all turn into lolcows like pretty much all people involved in IBS did to some extent but women are too stable by nature for something like that.

Someone big has decided to graduate and the JPs are devastated. We will find out who in a month or so. My guess is Marine, unfortunately

>>24243733
May Blues. Look it up. Multiple Holos reference this every year around this time. At least Miko has done so for the past 3 years or so

>>24269775
>streamer burn all of their livelihoods for a career that last for like 5-6 years at best.
lol
lmao even
Mining coal, driving long-haul or working an oil rig might burn through your health in exchange for a big stream of money in the short term. Being too lazy to hop on a treadmill to keep your fat ass from developing blood clots after 8 hours of sedentary video-game playing is NOT remotely comparable. Good lord this board was a mistake.

>>24270120
My guess is worse, PekoMari double graduation

>>24244993
>Don't forget you're not allowed to break kayfabe or swear
Kobo ate rujak, kedondong and got choked twice during her stream, indicating she ate a lot during streams. I guess JP branch is more work and strict oriented than ID.

>>24247085
The only thing that changed was that hololive was forced to obey the copyright rules like other companies or risk getting their members banned from the platform, it wasn't even about advertisers or reputation (that was seriously affected in Japan at least) but getting outright removed from the internet, that's why in some ways it was a bigger yab than the china stuff that started just a few months later.

>>24269775
Almost all the hololivers are by now millionaires and can pivot to a different position in the industry. Stop lying to yourself. They have a golden ticket.

>>24270085
Pippa...

Same sex marriage will be legalized in a few months and they're anxious about what having a family will do to their career.

>>24248493
Even playing a lot can be stressful. People enjoy playing game because they are stressful with work

>>24266505
At this point, they should resign and join kson vtuber company

>>24270120
>Someone big has decided to graduate and the JPs are devastated
Who?

Coco was unironically the one holding a lot of Holos together.

>>24243733
Hmnm, I saw this exact thread exactly one year ago.

Sorry but I just can’t feel bad for streamers that have millions of adoring fans and make bank. It’s their own fault using fake voices that damage their vocal cords

>>24270673
Cocock was keeping them together but now that's gone.

> talents depressed and overworked
> no privacy
> super strict rules
> idolshitter fans
we should unite and boycott this blackcompany, NOW

>>24269775
>>24270594
Sitting on your ass playing video games is infinitely more easy than standing for 12 hours a day and having to make a dangerous commute home. It nearly effortless. Even losing in the game will still get them views and big bucks. Crying and playing the woe is me card will also rake in the cash. A real job with shitty management is hell. A fucking vtuber company with shitty manage is still easy because they can atleast make money while taking the easy road and just playing some video or talking for 3 hours. They've got a fucking hugbox that comes equipped with a tipjar. You're fucking retarded if you feel bad for them

> Sitting on your ass playing video games is infinitely more easy than standing for 12 hours a day and having to make a dangerous commute home. It nearly effortless. > Even losing in the game will still get them views and big bucks. Crying and playing the woe is me card will also rake in the cash. A real job with shitty management is hell. A fucking vtuber company with shitty manage is still easy because they can atleast make money while taking the easy road and just playing some video or talking for 3 hours. They've got a fucking hugbox that comes equipped with a tipjar. You're fucking retarded if you feel bad for them

>>24270840
At least you are a real man because you chose the hard mode or nightmare mode for absolutely no reason than to inflict greater pain to yourself.
The same with players who don't play on easy mode

>>24270907
I accept your concession. Enjoy being a neet while it lasts, be sure to milk it as much as you can. Wagie life fucking sucks.

>>24270840
This I’m so tired of the fucking white knights on this board.

>>24270840
> NOOO ENTERTAINING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE UNDER HEAVY PRESSURE FROM RULES AND MANAGERS IS SUPER EASY!! SITTING ON MY DESK JUST PROGRAMMING SHIT APPS IS EXTREMELY HARD CHUD!
do holobronies really

>>24270940
I chose it for 2 reasons.
1 overtime
2 As a forner neet Im used to staying up at night and sleeping in the day, so the schedule lines up almost perfectly. After taxes my check is so low that if I did day shift without OT then id be making chump change.

>>24271009
>SITTING ON MY DESK JUST PROGRAMMING SHIT APPS IS EXTREMELY HARD CHUD!
I work as a dishwasher, there no hot water and when I clock in I have to deal with breakfast/lunch dishes and dinner dishes, that's very hard.
>Holobronies
I haven't watch hololive since june of 2021.

Do any of you guys ever play a match with your chuubas?

thread smells like salty 2views from /asp/, again.

>>24248259
Lets not pretend that the reason Japanese wagies dies from overwork is anything other than the fact that their cultural practices of staying in the office all the fucking time causes them to *never* learn how to do their work in a reasonable time. This is true for all east asian economic powerhouses - if you work with them you quickly realize they all just suck at their jobs and need all that overtime to do the same amount of work as their western counterparts can do in a 9-5.

>>24244975

This sounds like only a Hololive problem.

>>24244975
there is no demand for shitty poltics or racism in entertainment anywhere except here, moron. imagine being subjected to fucking politics while watching cute anime girls. i'd drop them instantly

>>24243960
must be rough streaming 4 hours a week while making tens of thousands of dollars a month.

>>24271090
washing dishes is super easy

It's not that complex is fucking work.
Even if it is the easiest thing in the world, work sucks and you want to take breaks from it.

>>24271822
Other companies just admit they're going on a steamy vacation with their husband? That's crazy

>>24243825
>anime became good again and
Hahaha good one anon

>>24269600
Noel's rm is probably just as famous in Japan going by how its one of the most known NND channels.

>>24272222
That shit sounds pretty tough with no hot water.

>>24244993
this retard . as far as i know, only mori wanted to be famous, other than that, they do vtubing for side gig. not everyone's a talented with office work like you, anon

>>24270666
Marine probably.

>>24270666
tsukino mito from niji

>>24270666
Polka or Okayu, I suppose

>>24243733
there's only so long you can do the same thing every day before you need to take a break
it's the reason why NEETs are usually horribly depressed, they need a break from the monotony of their lives, but their life IS other people's break

>>24244975
Sounds like you would enjoy watching Pippa.

>>24244228
They have dance practice and recording session aside from streaming.

>>24274464
>Porka graduates and revives the corpse of Nobuhime
PLEASE

>>24247188
>Shrugs off DMCA's like cartel bullets
We do a lot of things wrong in Latin America. But wiping our asses with Jewish 'copyright' 'law' is one thing I can say for certain is absolutely, 100% right.

>>24244993
>there's always 1-4 employees/managers watching your stream at all times
i don't believe it for a second. why the fuck do they not allow them to do anything about the river of shit in the chat?

>>24243825
That's not funny.

>>24247057
a brazilian vtuber company would have noraneko-twomad level shit happening on the daily and it would be glorious