/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

holy mackerel koyorin

>>24249471
Yet loaded vtubers will still tell you that they are overworked (playing video games and talking)

>>24249471
Go Koyori go!

>>24249471
Hush OP, the mental month autists would flood here to defend whatever gymnastics tier excuse they have about this.

Honestly the fact that Rushia still, and likely will for several months, has more hours this year than Ayame is hilarious.

>>24249471
>OP is desperate to cut off his dick

>>24249471
Moona and Mumei are college students and they still have more stream time than half of EN

>>24249471
And? Everyone on this board has easy lives too, what's your point?

>>24249471
>617.8 hours streamed
>in 120 days(she took one day off to move house)
Jesas, that's 5 hours 9 minutes PER DAY on average.

>>24249723
Not everyone, I've been running short on funds lately.

Just sold my Lamborghini yesterday.

I love Koyori so much its unbelievable

>>24249786
Koyori at your service!

>>24249850
Hah I knew you fucking bastard is lying.

you said unbelievable

getting outstreamed by the Hololive Official channel kek

>600 hours of streams
>only 6.5k average ccv
That's just fucking sad

>>24249786
Well, you pretty much have nothing to do as a married woman in your 30s.

>>24250545
That puts her at the top .0001% of streamers. Get the numberrot out of your head.

>>24250545
What are you on about? She should be making very nice money just with views alone, and then add all the other stuff, seems pretty sweet for her. Are you gonna kill yourself cause you make less money and aren't as popular as Chad?

>>24250545
some of her streams are during morning hours when viewership in general is lower and a lot of the hours are post game chatting when numbers are always lower

>>24250545
Constant 6,5k everyday is terrifyingly awesome actually...

>>24249697
Lmao, that's true

Koyori works like the average Japanese salaryman while Ayame works like the Spanish taking a siesta lol

>>24250545
I can't find that image, but some anon did the math
>40ccv makes you top 5% of vtubers
>300 ccv makes you top 1% of all vtubers.

>>24250545
>600 hours of streams
>only 6.5k average ccv
>That's just fucking sad

1) Koyori put in Godly effort, won most people's respect, made a name for herself. Some audience will give her a chance.

2) Its not easy to improve entertaining ability
(its largely affected by personality, voice and other factors)
(there are JP chuuba that streamed for 3 years and still not entertaining)

3) Most people don't have time to watch all Koyo content, you can stream 3000 hours a day and I still only have 30 minutes per day. Instead of more stream, Koyo should spend more time to research, practice or improve her entertaining ability.

>>24250545
someone doesn't know what average actually means in this context~
also she has a 9k+ median this month, so stop being a bitch

>>24250545
All her gaming streams that I've checked this month (resident evil, yakuza, elden ring, the baseball game) broke 11k+

>>24251356
it's because that anon is retarded and doesn't understand that that average counts for the whole year and also takes into consideration stupid bullshit like having a different frame for sc reading after an 8k stream at 8 am, instead of discarding outliers with median
not even mentioning the streams that happened during the youtube bug in january that particularly hurt her cause of her amount

>>24250964
You'll quickly realize how worthless 'research' is if you try to apply the idea to something in the same vein like writing music, jokes or novels. You can study all the theory and past examples in the world and get nowhere because in the end everyone admits they don't know how come shit is compelling or catches on, they just keep coming up with endless speculation and rules-of-thumb and hope enough people buy it as convincing.

>>24249471
All I'm getting from this is that EN is filled with a bunch of lazy whores

>>24249471
What is tiring out the top earners so much behind the scenes then? Why do some stream so rarely?

>>24251974
They don't want to. If you heard most of them in the past is clear that streaming, despite being the source of almost all their income, is a second or third priority for them.

>>24251922
Other than Kiara, pretty much. They don't even have half of the amount of sponsor shit and recordings/concerts that JPs do and JPs still do way more streaming on average.

>>24250545
So you're saying 6.5 k worth ccv willing to watch 600 hours of koyo gaming? Sounds like a win to me

>>24249471
An another wagie in a wage cage complaining about streamers again. Nothing to see to here.

>>24251920
This is true but it also doesn't explain some people that achieve constant success. They can't be all born talented, so some must have obtained the skills or winning formula through learning or researching. I think,

>>24251922
Being lazy is better, stream spamming tryhards are cringe

>>24249723
You're making fun of me? Bastard i have a real job with real working hours.

I'm proud that my money goes to fund these neets though

>>24254448
That's survivorship bias. Everyone is shaped differently by their life experiences. Some of these people - plenty of people - using those experiences, produce content that is particularly in tune with the zeitgeist of entertainment of their time. But this doesn't make them automatically successful, it simply means they have enough metaphorical funds to buy a lottery ticket to success. For every successful, talented person, there are likely 99 people with the same or greater talent who never got their 'big break' and had to change career paths or just do it as a hobby.

Yuki Kajiura has no formal education with music - she was a systems programmer - and Kevin Penkin is doing a Masters in the Royal College of Music. Yet in the end the music they produce is all used by the same anime industry, and a casual listener would not differentiate much between them. There are many paths to 'constant' success.

Add on the fact that once you have some success you have name recognition and clout, and that is enough to put you together with other similarly successful people who want to work with you. Even if you were not especially talented, these people can make up for your deficiencies and it is in a lot of people's vested interests to make sure you improve.

>>24255572
Man. I wish I was that optimistic about people in general and then I look outside or in media and I am having trouble believing all of that.

>>24255701
You think that's optimistic? I don't think so. As long as you squeeze past the bare threshold for success, you're eligible for the lottery ticket. Which is why you have so many people who apparently can't act or can't sing well in showbiz - because they still did meet the minimum standards (and also perhaps because them being there instead of someone else serves another person's purposes). The point is talent, training, and even just pure ability only counts for something up to a point. Of course, the better you are, the more chances you have to roll the dice. But you can only roll them so many times.

>>24249471
Who even cares? Japan's known for their abysmal work force anyways.

>>24249471
I love you Koyori

>>24255954
It is in today's landscape and occupational wasteland but that is a good point.

>>24249471
Everyone can be a salaryman
but not every salaryman can be an cute anime girl

>>24249493
It gets more insane when you look at Watame being ~100 hours ahead of everyone else, but Koyori is more than a hundred hours ahead of her.

>>24249471
Is she a descendant of Pareto?

She must have grown up learning of ways to use the Pareto rule for maximum efficiency!
She may have made a breakthrough and found a way to get 90% of the results with only 10% of the efforts.
As expected of a descendant!

>>24250545
>He still think superchat is Hololive way of making money

>>24249471
Get back in your cagie wagie.

>>24249471
As long as you convert everything into simple "hours vs money" you will forever be staying a wageslave

>>24253221
They're not having mental breakdowns like the JP girls, so there's that.

>>24249471

how many were wealthy before they even became vtubers? they reek of lavish upbringings

>>24249471
As a Watamate, I'm always worried that Watame streams far too much, specially between 10pm-6am, but goddamm Koyori!! Is she trying to break a record or something??

>>24260394
watame could barely stream in the beginning because her internet was slow and used to stop working randomly, making the stream crash.
So easy, some of them had it rough before joining hololive

>>24260848
Watame literally has nothing else going on in her life.

>>24249624
Rent free & projecting

>>24249471
Those with less than 240 hours (that's 15 hours per week average) should be a bit embarrased.

>>24262718
ok wagecuck

>>24249471
>Koyori is known as the crazy stream monster
>She just works about as much as a normal weekdays 9 to 5

>>24262863
If your work involves presenting to people for 8 hours a day sure
But odds are you actually do maybe two hours of actual work a day and you just forget all the times you spend staring at the screen doing nothing or surfing the net

Imagine working
couldn't be me

>>24260394
80% of JP girls grew-up poor or lower middle class. I believe everyone except Kobo grew-up rich in ID. EN all grew-up middle or upper class.

>>24263302
Ame...

>>24263425
You don't travel the world (like she did) if you're poor. Plus, I don't think her aunt is/was poor.

>>24263545
You might be confusing her with Kiara

>>24263015
This. My work consists on sitting on my ass doing nothing for around 6 hours a day, with 2 hours of responding to people. Having to entertain people for 8 hours a day would be extremely rough by comparison. (Of course, Koyori probably earns way more money than I do, but that's deserved.)

>>24250663
Married....

>>24263841
>idols that claim to have no interest in boys

>>24263015
yeah, I do 3 hour lectures for my job and my throat is completely shot after them, can't imagine doing it for 8 hours straight plus having to be entertaining on top. it's something I feel can only be done by people who are just naturally like that