/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>it's over...
what is?

YAB

>>24173377
Holofags and Nijifags really just need to have steamy, sweaty hate sex already. Like, two gay dudes fucking each other out of spite. That would fix things.

>>24173377
collab soon

>>24173531

Yep, it's confirmed they're fucking

>>24173377
OH NO NO NO

Another win for unitybros

good nijiEN : Enna, Nina, Elira

the rest are nijiniggers

>>24173543
>>24173531

Enna is chinese, it should be in her blood to hate hololive. this is a trick

>>24173377
the leech dumped millie?

>>24173396
Tribalfags' imagined war between the companies
Although he's wrong, because
1. Management in at least one of the companies is retarded, so there still won't be collabs even if the actual chuubas don't and never did have anything against each other
2. Shitposters don't care about the truth anyway lmao

>>24173481
i would fuck a cute nijisister
t. holotwink

>>24173377
well, not like her wavemate's gonna collab with her, nice of moom to look out for her

>>24173623
What

>>24173377
Based tho

>>24173628
unless youre a cute aussie ex-runner, they wont give you the time of day

>>24173543
We just lost HoloEN's best defender...

>>24173377
mumei's lesbian arc continues

>>24173673
I think he's calling Enna a leech? Which is a new one to me, but I don't question shitposts too hard.

>>24173751
he probably mistook enna for nina

>>24173377
All-out war (for homostarsEN audition)

War reparation demand:
>pomutori collab
>selenollie collab
>fulgur be a man and speak up

>>24173377
i bet you a bajillion dollars mooms doesn't watch nijisanji when she barely even watched holoen before her debut.

>>24173796
fungus probably wont outside of vaguely alluding and apologizing, he did say though that he was going to graduate on his own volition because of it until millie(?) intervened and stopped him,so he atleast regrets it somewhat

>>24173838
Moom RM and Shu PL were friends, that's why she only follow Shu out of all Nijihomos

>>24173838
she definitely watched some nijiens' content before either of them debuted, the only one I know for sure is ike

>Twitter interaction

>>24173377
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i don't know why but i want all HoloEN and NijiEN members to have an orgy (barring the males, they all are homosexuals anyways). it will be available for everyone to watch so that holofags and nijifags can forget their hostilities and coom

>>24173945
nope

>>24173934
There’s also allegedly some past interactions with Selen, and there was that whole thing when doxxers thought her roommate was going to be Petra.

>>24173377
kiara ruined her

>>24174112
FUCKING CHICKEN AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEE

>>24174085
she literally commented on his covers

>>24174112
brat needed correction

>>24173377
yab

>>24174112
Mori*

>>24174101
She was friends with Selen?
I didn't know that

>>24173614
>Nina
She was spreading the rrat about coco though?

This board is fucking embarrassing

Good HoloEN
Ina
Ame
Bae
Good NijiEN
Pomu
Selen
Millie

>>24174214
I said allegedly, because I don’t know how much they interacted before going corporate. I think her liking or retweeting Selen in the week before Obsydia debut somehow helped fuel the Petra speculation because they thought it was an accidental self-dox.

>>24174265
What did she say?

>>24174265
Holy shit I memoryholed that whole incident.

>>24174296
Ina is so boring and plain though I imagine she is good for people who don't have a personality

>>24173481
Get a hot nijisister that cosplays as enna and make me cum with her feet then i will become an unityfag

>>24174429
its only the rosebuds,pentomos and that 1 cute flip that cosplays... the sisters don't do much other than encourage the fanbases to be gay and rarely post a vocaroo...

>>24173902
Where i can hear this on stream? I never watch fulgur before

>>24174383
that coco went to hololive after getting rejected by niji a couple of times because nijisanji has higher standards

>>24173377
was she in the leaked chat discord?

>>24174501
I don’t think so.

Personally I want to see holo x niji collabs just so the tribalist schizos commit mass suicide

>>24174501
fortunately/unfortunately no

Corpo mandated unity.

>>24173543
She already got fired...

>>24173377
>engaging with leeches
Fucking stupid owl, I hope management scolds her for acting like a retarded.

>>24174490
https://streamable.com/sfblrx
this is it but not sure of the exact stream

>>24174429
Come to the Philippines

>>24174573
>acting like a retarded
like a retarded what? finish your sentence

>>24174383
That Coco wasn't allowed to do full English streams, and said that nijisanji gives a higher degree of freedom.
The context was that she didn't want to do Russians streams, so she blamed it on her corporation not letting her, but then went a step further and implied that this was already more freedom than cover was allowing. This is despite the fact that Haato had been frequently doing EN only streams for forever.

>>24173377
Kinda off topic.
But I just remembered that time when NijiEN was first announced. And I got so excited, thinking.
>"Hell Yeah! We're going to have more girls to collab with! Hololive has always allowed collabs with Nijisanji! I can't wait! :D"
And now it's been a year, and we're still making posts whenever they reply to each other...

>>24174779
Oh yeah, and the conversation came up because her Russian fanbase of clippers brought it up asking for Russian streams, and her response was basically, my hands are tied, but please keep supporting and clipping me.

>>24173543
this tranny already fired
this is one of his project that discontinued despite good approach for new viewer
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNoxM_Kxoa-_gOtoyjbux7Q

>>24174903
Didn't she get to do Russian and French speaking streams anyways? I don't get the problem.

>>24174383
>coco said she didn't do English only stream because she had more Japanese audience than oversea niki after all
>nina said something like: "coco can't do English only stream because Cover won't let her but no one is limiting me so I can do stream like this" during her Russian only stream
>people found out she is spreading misinformation.
>privated her stream said that stream had audio issue.

>>24174571
>she

>>24173377
>CMON MUMEI !!!
>U FUCKING COWARD
>TELL HER YOUR BUDDY IRyS IS THE BETTER SINGER!

>>24174825
Going by the discord leak and the fact that the Selen/Ollie collab got blocked, I’d say it’s probably NijiEN management treating it like “all-out war”, regardless of what the talents on either side want.

>>24174949
>privated her stream said that stream had audio issue.
she also went after the clippers who clipped that part of her stream and said that they were coco fans trying to twist her words by editing her voice/subtitles

Can I get a rundown on Enna? Is she clean or does she have skeletons in her closet?

She's an affluent western college educated chinese girl.
She hates black people and Petra.

>>24175117
She has skeletons in MY closet!

>>24175117
Marx sympathizer who hates blacks and seapeople
theres also a rrat that her roommate used to browse stormfront

>>24174988
It was confirmed to be on HoloEN's side. One of the Apex players(iPN or rpr or templex, I forget) tried to organize an Apex collab with Towa and Selen and was told by Hololive management that they can't collab if NijiEN is there.
They didn't say why Hololive is blocking NijiEN only but that's what it is.

>>24173377
It's pretty obvious these tweets are orchestrated to put pressure on Cover to allow them to collab together.
Literally everyone wants it. The chuubas and the fans wants to see NijiEN and HoloEN to collab. But Cover is being a bitch about it.

>>24175117
She's a psychopath. Might actually have a few skeletons in her closet.
Also a good singer and funniest NijiEN. Great storyteller and zatsudan. Worst gamer but that leads to hilarious shit sometimes.

>>24175287
good, I hope it stays this way

>>24175117
She is everything people hate about women and chinese. She is also funny, pretty based and is maybe the best EN singer

>>24175316
>everyone
fuck off, collab beggars deserve to die

>>24175316
Cover has absolutely nothing to lose from letting them collab. This is entirely on Anycolor not wanting to lose their Chinese audience.

>>24174499
>>24174404
>>24174779

Doesn't seem to bad but what's the point in shit talking someone, thanks for the lore

>>24175316
No concessions until Fulgur apologizes to Mori

>>24175117
Depends on what you consider skeletons.
She might have literal ones considering her proclivities.
Overall she's just a closet gay femcel with a love of cooking streams.

>>24175365
Chink fujos dont give a shit about Chinese nationalism, its a potential yab in the making since the Chinese males are starting to hate Vox for taking all the women. Don't know why anykara thinks they would lose them though

>>24175365
Woah there buddy you can't risk your fans learning that vtubers other than Hololive exist.

>>24175117
Just a bit of a femcel. Also tests potential friends to make sure they're loyal to her, which is shitty desu.

>>24173543
Based, also there's not proof they're fired

>>24173627
>he imagined
>he's wrong
so there really is a war? oh fuck

>>24175365
Nothing to lose but nothing to gain either, there's a reason they keep working with Ironmouse while the rest of Vshoujo gets what, 2 collabs in total?

>>24175448
Good thing Millie is too stupid to see through any manipulation or gaslighting.

>>24175316
I don't want it.
Holos are pretty boring outside of maybe Kiara and sometimes Gura. Please let the rest of them stay in their walled garden instead of leeching off of other vtubers who actually work hard.
It'd be even worse if they somehow became behind the scenes friends and infected Nijis with Kronii and Ame's nonexistent work ethic. If Pomu actually started canceling half her streams every week after collabing with Kronii I'd fucking burn Hololive EN to the ground.

>>24174383
Я этo Cкaзaлa и пpeпoднecлa мoeй кoмпaнии
Oни Mнe paзpeшили cдeлaть этoт Cтpим
Haдeюcь Бyдyт дaльшe мнe paзpeшaть дeлaть
тaкиe пpoeкт
Я нe вceгдa Moгy дeлaть пpoeкты пo-pyccки
Пoмнитe
Coco из hololive вoдa
Oнa хoть и дeлaлa вeщи пo-aнглийcки
Oнa нe мoглa дeлaть пoлнocтью aнглийcкиe c
тpимы кaк я ceйчac дeлaю пoлy pyccкий
У мeня нaмнoгo бoльшe мнe дaли кaк этo cкaз
aть
Ho пoжaлyйcтa Пoвepьтe мнe
Я бyдy дaльшe пpeпoднocить
Клипы кoтopыe вы дeлaeтe
Я бyдy дaльшe им пoкaзывaть cкoлькo y нac к
oммeнтapии и cкoлькo людeй пpихoдят нa pyc
cкиe Cтpим

Something like coco can't do full english stream because she is restricted by cover which is not true and anycolor doesn't have restrictions so she can do half russian half english stream right now.
she also wants to prove anycolor how big Russian fanbase is.

>>24175514
I hope it happens now because you're a whiny little bitch who expects vtubers to cater to your whims.

>>24173377
She clearly misspelled bitch as bird, so the war is not over yet

AIIIIIIIIEEEEE

>>24175510
Millie is the one who approached her and if you're not retarded you can see it's Millie who's doing the manipulation and changed Enna.

>>24175510
That's how they became friends iirc. Millie was too retarded to notice that Enna was testing her.

>>24174499
Stop lying faggot

>>24175316
More loke anycolor is the one who is bitching

>>24175548
>teakeks think expecting chuubas to actually stream is demanding they "cater to your whims."
lmao

This guessing game of who's blocking collabs is going to become a staple of /vt/ isn't it?

>>24175386
Because Nina is a dumbass and thinks that speaking Russian means she can say whatever she wants without consequence.

>>24175656
This dance has been happening ever since Kiara and Pomu said it couldn't happen.

>>24175644
>implying im a teakek or a holobrony
probably the most insulting thing ive seen. you corpofags all think you're hot shit. try watching someone outside the big corpos and you'll realize that actual good vtubers exist who dont have to force themselves to stream when they're obviously not in the mood and it's just crappy. just switch to another channel like any normal viewer.

>>24175656
It's going to become one of vtubing's greatest mysteries, we're even picking up clues along the way.

>>24174949
>privated her stream
Source = my ass

>defending the work ethic of Finana "fanartists didn't draw me so I'm going to cancel my stream" Ryugu

How many collabs have been blocked, 3? I only know Kiara-Pomu, Ollie-Selen, and Astel-Reimu.

>>24175730
No, I will not watch your 2 view.

i want this collab to happen just to piss off tribalfags, they are as bad as unicorns and numberfags

>>24175730
I watched Amiya and Tenma today and they also both stream as much as they can and put a lot of creativity into their streams. You can't just hide behind the "muh corpos" excuse when even 2views grind it out every single day in an effort to grow their channel.

Sorry I like vtubers with passion instead of lazy whores who only stream when it's time to pay the bills.

>>24174409
Not even a Holotwink but I feel like people who can't enjoy an Ina stream are missing something.
It's usually the frontal lobe.

>>24175792
Looks like anycolor is the one who is blocking sigh

>>24175656
My favorite part will always be the shift from Hololive fans being proud of the walled garden and saying they don't want whores inside of it to suddenly NijiEN is the one blocking the collabs. I guess Hololive collabing with Vshoujo killed the previous stance of no whores in the garden?

>>24175771
https://mega.nz/folder/CotgQbTY#5SJov3Yspp12OsnWHXd23A

>>24173377
Nice of mumei throwing a bone to the poor. You don't see niji en doing this for 2views.

>>24175892
This is true

>>24175892
Kek. Nice of you to out yourself of not checking NijiEN's twitter accounts.

>>24175892
Call me when Cover throws a bone to actual 2views and not just their vtuber buddies who dropped on the other side of the fence.

>>24175867
Nijinigger can't even spell vshojo right?

>>24175795
enjoy never expanding your horizons and being another nameless face in the crowd as you enjoy your cookie cutter mass-produced slop!

>>24175815
don't get me wrong i respect people who are hard workers but you come across as someone who feels entitled to streams just because you watch a vtuber. they aren't your slaves just because they're entertainers.

>>24175892
NijiEN does it all the time rumao

>>24175993
>Call me when Cover throws a bone to actual 2views
NijiEn females are 2views in terms of the people actually watching the stream for them since 90% of their viewers are just waiting for a surprise drop by from the male EN

>Nijiniggers collab with Miori before Bae can
Fuck this gay earth.

>>24175892
I mean there are already bunch of 2 views in nijiaanji.
What is your point that niji should throw bone outside of niji?

>>24176002
>しょうじょ
>しょじょ
Do EOPs really?

>>24175771
respond nigger

>>24175876
>>24176104
Nice edited upload, this proves nothing. Also there's no timestamp so there's probably not even anything here kek.

>>24175816
Get a hobby bro

>>24174930
Retard, it was always going to end. They even said as much.

>>24176082
>Miori rushes a nijinigger collab instead of waiting for a MyHolo reunion with Bae.
>Now she's probably blacklisted and can never appear on a Holo stream
Do 2 views lack foresight? Why didn't she wait for the Bae collab first?

>>24176144
I've been picking up drawing while listening to anime girls

HoloEN has a storied history of supporting 2views
https://files.catbox.moe/eubl84.webm

>>24176078
>source: came to me in a dream

>>24176140
She talked about it around 32:00 retard

>>24173543
GO OMEGA GO SHOW THESE NIGGAS WHOS THE MANAGER OF MANAGERS

>>24176289
Okay?
This stream wasn't privated though?

>>24176284
Anon is a retard who cant tell that the Nijimales are actually helping their female counterparts

>>24175892
Bra, i'm just about to say this! Big heart moomers.

>>24176204
She collabed with Petra, People barely know about the collab.

>>24175287
This is a shitpost right?
Cause I've never heard of this before, and if it happened I know this board wouldn't shut up about it.

>>24176082
>Petra
Doesnt count

>>24176321
Then why aren't nijifemales 1views when playing single-player games? If 90% of the audience is waiting for the guys

>>24176057
>don't get me wrong i respect people who are hard workers but you come across as someone who feels entitled to streams just because you watch a vtuber. they aren't your slaves just because they're entertainers.
expecting someone whose job it is to stream to do their job is not entitlement. there are endless amounts of vtubers who bust their ass every day and deserve my support more. i dont have the patience for someone who thinks taking 20 days off every month is acceptable while still expecting donations and memberships. that's what actual entitlement looks like.
at least the 2views who stream infrequently are doing it as a hobby and have no expectations. if you worked at mcdonalds and showed up late to work or skipped out on work 3 days a week you'd be fired within the first month.

>>24176353
Who on this board watches those APEX males if a girl isn't around?

>>24176316
Then link?

>>24176345
>>24176380
So Petra isn't a nijibitch?

>>24176448
I love bitches desu

>>24176448
No, Petra is a holo
source:
>>24143196

>>24176204
She was dumb enough to think that taking the collab with Nijis would be a plus for her. Being in Tsunderia on top of all the drinking must've rotted her brain a bit.

>>24176440
nvm, I thought it was the november one

>>24175287
>people just making up rrats out of nowhere now

>>24176380
doesnt matter if you hate her you absolute faggot. It counts.
It was Hana, Cia and Reza as well so fuck you

>>24175435
>love vox for investment profit
>hate vox for taking their women
Rumao

>>24173377
Since when does /vt/ like Mumei?

>>24173377
Do nijidogs do anything but try to leech from hololive? I see the samething happening with vshojo
They're permanently in holos replies

>>24176389
Im not contradicting you retard what im saying is that the anon you replied to is retarded unless you are also an ESL which makes you a double retard

>>24176811
Nijidogs actually

>>24176411
I suppose it's kinda a good idea to make a rrat with the premise that noone from vt could fact check it.
But this would be so huge it's unbelievable in the first place.

>>24176854
Actually what? Stream?

>>24176481
Uki is one of the good ones
retweets all fan art he can find, doesn't give a fuck if its nsfw
man is living his life

>>24173377
>Another Nijibeggar wanting that sweet Holochad validation
Yawn.

>>24176254
Leeching of Ina lmfao

>>24176403
I think what that anon was saying is that you seem like the kind of person who'd stalk a waitress home from the local diner and stab her to death for not serving your table one day. You talk a lot about "real world" anything but you seem to have no understanding about what is your business and what isn't. I hate to break it to you, but how often someone streams is 100% none of your business. They called you a whiny little bitch because you're whining and bitching about someone you yourself say you refuse to support or watch instead of just watching and supporting someone else. Going full Joker Gang "burn it down to the ground" and letting someone live rent-free in your head by quite literally doing nothing just seems exhausting.
That McDonald's example is particularly stupid because you're not their manager, you're a total stranger. Go and tell anybody that you kept a record of every McDonald's cashier and how often they came into work, then made a list of every employee who worked less than 5 days a week and will go out of your way to express your immense dislike of them any time those employees are present or mentioned at McDonald's or elsewhere and I guarantee they would never want to speak to you again.

>>24174779
>nijisanji gives a higher degree of freedom
is this supposed to be a good thing?

>>24174932
>stream deleted
sure she was

>>24177440
and for the tl;dr
>>24175514
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF DON'T LET THESE LAZY HOLOWHOOOOOOORES COLLAB WITH MY HARD WORKING QUEENS ONE COMPANY OVER
>>24176403
or for the "real life" example
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF DON'T LET THIS LAZY MCDONALD'S WAGIE TALK TO MY HARDWORKING CUTIE BARISTA QUEEN AT THE STARBUCKS ONE BLOCK OVER

>>24173543
Please come back, save us.....

My dick is hard.

>>24177457
If you want happier talents, yeah.
Hololive's helicopter management is so oppressive and demoralizing that you lost Coco because of it. She wanted a Melody collab basically her entire career and never got it. Meanwhile Pomu got it within 2 months after debuting.

Even they having talk and want to collab behind the scene, Holo managers will never let it happen. They simply don't want to lose their viewers into Nijisanji.

>>24178060
Proofs?

>>24178060
Im suuure Holo manager are terrified of loosing audience to Reimu or Petra

>>24175117
Theres no way she hasnt been in a relationship. You dont get as crazy as enna without one. Im guessing arranged marriage went wrong fiance caught cheating or straight up bailled on the wedding day. Something along those lines.

>>24178216
Reimu and Petra aren't interested in collabing with HoloEN, and no HoloEN is interested in collabing with them

>>24178060
Its been proven that neither of the sides management is blocking collabs. Its the tribalniggering livers themselves that block them

Why does /vt/ only focus on NijiEN being blocked when I'm pretty sure the vast majority of EN vtubers are also blocked from HoloEN collabs? It's not Blue team vs. Red team it's Blue team protecting their market share.

>>24178410
>Why does /vt/ focus
We don't focus on anything, it's /vt/

>>24178410
its unitytards that want nyanners to collab with jp chubas

>>24178103
>Pomu and Kiara
Vtubing is business, who the fuck wanna advertise products from direct competitor on your own channel? If Niji pay some collab fee maybe they gonna get greenlight.

>>24178410
Talents get to pick who they want to collab with. Nobody gives a shit about your 2 view that would kill her own mother if it meant getting 10 more subs

>>24178449
Exactly, yet holofags think it's being restricted on the Niji side

Wait are holofags all twinks now and nijifags all women?
Kinda hot desu

>>24178449
Yup! That's why they refused to collab with the biggest competitor in the EN Market, VShoj-
Oh...
Well I mean it must be them and not NijiEN blocking Holo collabs because HoloID, who has no problem collabing with any other Niji branch, was able to collab with NijiEN and didn't get blocke-
Oh...
Well it MUST BE a DEEP-SEATED CONSPIRACY where HoloEn performed a hostile takeover of the confirmed separate branch of HoloId management and explicitly go out of their way to block collabs NijiEn specifically but still allow HoloId to collab with the other Niji branches even though they're blocking collabs because they're afraid of losing views to a competitor despite allowing HoloEN to collab with the biggest competitor in the English market! Of course!

That was close, for a moment I almost had to maybe not consider Hololive the big bad boogeyman responsible for all evils...

>>24178482
Why was the Selen & Ollie collab killed by NijiEN management
HoloID and NijiID AND NijiJPs were collabing fine

>>24178468
Ollie would 100% collab with EN 2 views like MoonJelly or Miori. She's a huge unityfag.

>>24178543
Didnt know Ollie was in HoloEN

>>24178482
Can you provide literally any evidence that it's not?

>>24176811
It's sad. They're like a dog barking non stop for acknowledgement when their owner is just trying to sleep.

>>24178527
Anon, Vshojo is Twitch. Even when the first set of Vshojo collabs were greenlit fans realized that Holo was trying to dip into the twitch population since there isn't much overall between the sites' users. There IS overlap with NijiEN though.

>>24178563
She's a better example since she's from a branch that apparently has much more freedom in their collabs. So it's interesting that even she can't collab with EN chuubas freely.

One key piece of information everyone forgets is that COVER is retarded so anything that would have to imply they are thinking intelligently (like protecting their market) is already wrong.

>>24176811
They have more passionate and organic fans unlike hololive who only has bots and bandwaggoners who drop them after a couple of days only to watch them when some shilled holomeme gets popular
Thats why Nijisanji is the better company, they actually care and listen to their fans and why you see Holo talent who want to jump to niji

>>24178584
Can you provide any proof that it is?
The only thing that makes logical sense is that Holo management doesn't want Holo viewers to be exposed to Holo's competition.

This is my favorite part of these threads, where we recycle posts and rrats with literally 0 proof behind them on either side. It's funny to see the two fanbases jump through mental hoops trying to shift the blame from one side to the other.

>>24178449
This. The same thing used to happen in wrestling all the time where Vince McMahon wouldn't want any talents from other promotions on his program because as the top dog in the game, he only stood to lose.

>>24178696
is the new trend accusing hololive of everything nijisanji is doing? i keep seeing this in every thread
this has to be a staged attack or something

>>24178748
I just think holofags and nijifags should have sex. It would be hot.

>>24178696
>Holo talent who want to jump to niji
Don't think you can back that up with facts

>>24178620
>there isn't much overall between the sites' users
Not convincing. Can you give me the stats on VShojo and EOP Holofag overlap to show that it's low? Most VSJ normalfags seem to at least be Holoclipwatchers if anything based on the twitch chats of regulars during their collabs. Nyanners has a 1mil sub YT channel for uploads that gets consistently high views and all the VSJ girls get pretty large view counts on YT clips, and all those comment sections are full of Holo PFP fags.

>>24176345
>>24176380
Yeah, people barely know about the collab because you say so anon.
She didn't collab with Petra either way but with Hana, Reza, Cia, Pan and others. petra was just one of them in there, the biggest one between them.

>>24173377
I wish both of them would bully me with their feet

>>24178696
Is that so? Because from what we've been seeing over the years, nijiniggers whole existence is based on them hating hololive

>>24178686
Realtalk Cover is so retarded that they chose to protect their 2 mediocre vtubers instead of going into a booming market like china and in the end those 2 vtubers gave them nothing since one baile on them while the other just simply gave up.
Holofans are screeching "muh fujos" "muh bots" cause in the end of the day Niji is gonna thrive while Hololive is gonna fade into irrelevancy and go back to having 13 people watching their stream (which honestly was a miracle considering Sora is a huge bore and should have been cut the moment hololive gained popularity but then again cover is incompetent)

>>24178884
And based on what i see here and other places, holofags whole existence is shitposting about nijisnaji

>>24178696
>Holo talent who want to jump to niji
Yeah! Like the former Hololive talent Moruru! She's been so much happier since she jumped ship from Hololive and became the well known Niji talent Luna Himemori.
Uhh... I can't think of any other examples but I'm sure they're out there.

>>24178884
>hololive is shittalking nijisanji too!
>proof?
>I made it up but they shittalk them in my head
lol
no wonder SEA has one of the highest schizophrenia populations in the world

I just want to see steamy, raging kissy gay hate sex between two warring fanbases. I want to see you all make out with each other while you feel nothing but anger and arousal while I watch in the corner cause it'd be hot do it do it do it do it

>>24173377
I'm so fucking tired of this shit. It reminds me of professional sports where the fans care more than the actual players. Why do the fans care more about Hololive than the actual talents?

>>24178527
Vshoujo isn't on the same platform with Hololive anon, and only Ironmouse who's like Tamaki of EN Vtubing is able to arrange collab with them.

>>24178824
>Nyanners has a 1mil sub YT channel for uploads that gets consistently high views and all the VSJ girls get pretty large view counts on YT clips, and all those comment sections are full of Holo PFP fags.
>Hololive fans have high engagement with the VSJ content that is placed on YT.
I accept your concession. Even among 3DPD streamers you can see that there's a split between those that watch streamers on YT and those that go to Twitch, hence why it's a big deal when one side grabs a hold of someone popular from the other side. Hell you even see it on /vt/, where anons frequently state their dislike for Twitch and consider it a hassle to watch streamers on two sites.

>>24178889
I have never seen a post that wasnt retarded followed up with a Selen image

>>24178776
agreed

>>24178889
NijiEN fans and promoting CCP supremacy, certainly one of the combinations of all time.

>>24179030
Where are those stats.

>>24178998
this, hatesex basedsex

>>24179024
You're not supposed to point that out, you're also not supposed to point out that despite most of the Vshojo girls "having an in" with some members of HoloEN it's still only Mousey that gets collabs.

>>24179000
To be fair one of those two things is replaceable.

>>24179127
at least there's someone here who understands

>>24179024
>>24179134
Yeah! It's only Mousey, and nobody else. She's the exception and not the rule!

>>24179251
Once and never again

>>24179293
>goalposts moved

>>24178527
>Well it MUST BE a DEEP-SEATED CONSPIRACY where HoloEn performed a hostile takeover of the confirmed separate branch of HoloId management and explicitly go out of their way to block collabs NijiEn specifically but still allow HoloId to collab with the other Niji branches even though they're blocking collabs because they're afraid of losing views to a competitor despite allowing HoloEN to collab with the biggest competitor in the English market! Of course!
The other side's deep seated conspiracy is that the chinks are somehow controlling who Nijisanji are able to collab with, oh wait but like you said NijiJP and NijiID collab with their Holo counterparts. Okay, well then for some reason the chinks have decided to only focus on the EN branch of Nijisanji, man they must have a lot of pull in the company right? Oh wait, the IPO literally disproved that, they can't even own more than 20% if you add them all up together. Both sides are being retarded.

>>24179064
but the chinese market is actually better since theres not real competition for niji unlike in the west which have powerhouses like vshojo

>>24179382
But nijifriend, you said that vshojo isn't competition for Hololive and by extension Nijisanji because there's literally 0% overlap between Twitch viewers and YouTube viewers!

>>24179251
You mean the collab that only came about when Vei was blocked?
>>24179312
So what about the part where anons like to see how Silvervale and Ame are actually really close but yet they've never collabed? You just ignored that entire part of the post.

>>24178857
People barely knew about it because in total their CCV is like 2k with no clips. In /nijien/ only 4 of us was talking about the stream and some of the fan discords didn't watch it.

>>24177133
Not really.
Hololive blocking collabs really wouldn't be anything new. We've had like 2 collabs with vshojo and outside of that I don't think we've ever seen much for collabs on en's side
No indies, no smaller corporations, no nijisanji. Shit just look at one of the many massive Crab Game collabs that happened where nijisanji was with a bunch of other people some of which weren't even vtubers.
Nothing like that has happened with hololive and I can't imagine it's because nobody is interested. Kiara would probably love to be involved in one of those

>>24179602
>No indies, no smaller corporations, no nijisanji
The answer is simple, EVERYONE in the EN sphere is secretly controlled by chinks and have come together to blacklist Hololive. We've solved this one gentlemen.

>>24173377

>>24179467
You mean the collab that was okayed even after the clip and Kiara kept insisting was going to happen even after it started circulating until Vei herself backed off? Or do you have another conspiracy there beyond Vei not wanting to deal with rabid holofags.
>So what about the part where anons like to see how Silvervale and Ame are actually really close but yet they've never collabed? You just ignored that entire part of the post.
Yeah sis? You wanna quote that part of your post?

>>24173377
>nijishitter leeching off of HoloEN yet again
Why are they like this?

Once again, my only complaint is that we might not get to see Bae collab with Moonjelly and Miori even though it's probably the most obvious outside collab they could put together.

>>24179373
I don't care about any deeper reasoning or speculation or whatever schizo conspiracy is on one side or the other, I'm just saying that, objectively, the blocking of HoloID collabs is suspicious for NijiEN management as an untested variable in that equation, and the only way to overturn that suspicion is with a baseless conspiracy.

>>24179602
>>24179703
Ina collabed with Pikamee. Mori collabed with Milky Queen.

It does look like HoloEN management doesn't like NijiEN specifically, and the only thing that makes sense is that they view them as a threat to their newish market they had some success in. vShojo is big but they are dumb gaijin company on Twitch so probably not viewed as a concern.

>>24179602
>no indies
Mori... BOOGEY VOXX...

inb4
>b-but that's just ONE collab (times however many times this excuse has been used to move goalposts)

>>24179602
Anon half this fucking thread has devolved into "who done it". This discussion has a thread made for it, like every week or so.
A lot of people give a shit about this, it would be a huge deal here. Probably non stop threads for at least a day.

Hey remember when HoloEN collabed with literal fucking anitubers multiple times?

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>>24179886
>baseless conspiracy
Is it that far-fetched to believe that instead of saying something retarded like HoloEN management took over HoloID management, the higher ups that they both have to answer to don't want any Holo branch freely collabing with EN vtubers? HoloID is being treated like a completely different company here when it isn't, and I believe that they've only had a handful of collabs with EN vtubers (Mousey, Merryweather, Iku and I think two more) in their lifespan. The reason I say this restriction is only on EN vtubers is because one scroll through Ollie's collab history and you'll see a lot of ID and even some JP 2 views. The reason for this restriction can be anyone's guess, but I believe the proof is there.

>>24180112
>holoEN
You mean just mori?

>>24180167
Shut up.

>>24176353
This board is 98% Hololive fans, no one watches Niji, let alone male FPS streamers.

>>24180184
I accept your concession

>>24180167
>>24180236
Not just Mori! Did you forget about this, or even knew it existed?
>*move goalposts*
>heh, I may have been wrong before, but now that I changed my win conditions, concession accepted!

>>24173543
Such a waste of a design.

>>24173788
The only possible way to make any sense of his post

>>24180292
accept your concession friend, no need to hurt yourself like this.

>>24180193
You are talking so hard out of your ass it's not even funny. Link the evidence.

What do you guys think of the Niji En fans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O33YtLZNxQU

>>24174296
Id add mumei and enna to their respective sides of that and i can agree

>>24180193
Who is Gorilla?

>>24174537
This

>>24180337
>HoloEN has never had an outside collab of this sort
>Yes they have, on multiple occasions
>*goalpost move #42*
>Oh well that's just Mori. HoloEN outside of Mori has NEVER had a collab of this sort
>Yes they have, Kiara collabed with Gigcuck
>accept your concession friend
You do realize you just offered ME a concession, right? Okay. I accept your concession.

>>24180337
He is right so... concede what?

You'd think the unity tweets would be enough to gas you schizos but here we are.

>>24175323
How does she bug every game she plays

>>24180543
>>HoloEN has never had an outside collab of this sort
I too enjoy engaging in arguments where I use statements that came from my head. It's honestly one of the best things to do on /vt/.

>>24175117
Canadian potty mouth, great singer with some hilarious range for both singing and talking, not good at games but will at least try to complete them to the best of her ability while struggling with it, likes to preach but is completely a hypocrite in most ways, adorable and most definitely comes to /vt/, sappy dork and only really goes wild (TN: Overboard) when paired with her bestie millie

>>24173796
I want pomutori to be an off collab so they can fuck already and give us doujin material. Very relevant captcha.

>>24180667
I too enjoy trying to gaslight the start of this argument and wash over the existence of posts like >>24179703 just because the start of this reply chain didn't directly link to it as if the reply makes any sense without the earlier context!

>>24180798
>gaslight
Oh I was talking to a woman this entire time. That makes sense.

>>24180873
Sure thing sis!

>>24176092
They misspelled it because they are retarded weeabos, it is vshojo even though it should be vshoujo

>>24176754
Since this became the redditcuck board

>>24174429
>her

>>24179928
>>24179942
I did admittedly forget about those but it seems like outside collabs are rare and they're never really done with any chuubas from any corporations that could be remotely seen as rivals like phase or prism. Any major en vtubers who stream exclusively on YouTube seem to be out of the question along with most non vtubers regardless of their popularity.
Even major twitch vtubers seem to be kinda restricted seeing as there's been 0 collabs with people like bao or silver or snuffy or any other popular twitch tuber.
We've had very few collabs with vshojo and only 1 of their members has had reoccurring collabs.
I find it a lot harder to believe that it's on nijis side when Niji seems to allow collabs with almost anyone..

Why does this thread have 300 replies.

>>24181140
You're applying too much logic. Just repeat that Niji = bad and keep using collabs from months ago to say that HoloEN isn't restrcited.

>>24181140
Also it's about how collabs work for HoloEN. You have to file a lot of paperwork and it has to go through several managers, if even one of them says no the collab isn't happening

>>24181197
This is unironically more interesting to discuss and shitpost about than streams.

>>24181040
Sorry, unfortunately all the cute crossdressers are holofags, especially Aqua Crew for some reason.

>>24181281
Seriously what is up with this phenomenon.

>>24180602
Truly powerful skills.
Should be hired to game test.

>>24180778
>off collab so they can fuck already
>inb4 surprise Uki

>>24181375
Think the devs would hang themselves having to teach her how to play though

>>24181343
Why are there so many of them

>>24181281
>>24181343
post more. Make this thread good

>>24181466

>>24181516
I really like this one

>>24181673

>>24181699
Show the femboy cock.

I will now imagine every holofag as a cute crossdresser.

>>24181801
dominate me

>>24181801
Let's have sex now!

>>24175117
She's a self-admitted deadbeat, her skeletons are literal

>>24176092
They misspelled it themselves, now their name is the most ironic thing on the face of this planet

>>24181831
>>24181861
I don't think I can take two at once.

>>24173377
>Enna
>Bird cute
Hol'up

>>24181724
Fuck it. I'm taking a vacation. Lazy meido never does their job.

https://twitter.com/Rotten_0range_/status/1517549799238680577
>https://twitter.com/Rotten_0range_/status/1517549799238680577
https://twitter.com/Rotten_0range_/status/1517549799238680577

>>24182042
you (hopefully) won’t get banned for a link. Also that’s fucking hot

>>24173796
You forget about MillieMoona, btw

>>24181920
There's a deadbeat hidden inside all of us, in a sense.

>>24182042
Stop making me want to pound crossplayer ass while playing with his dick

>>24181281
>>24181343
>>24181466
>>24181474
>>24181516
>>24181673
>>24181699
>>24181724
>>24181801
>>24181831
>>24181861
>>24182019
>>24182042
>>24182095
>>24182197

>>24176548
FAAAAAAAG

>>24173543
the most based retard on this planet

>>24182019
i really want your cock

Who is the Hololive equivalent to Elira Pendora?

>>24182225
Turning a bait thread into a gay thread is my God given duty.

>>24182310
Which aspects in particular?

>>24182320
Continue

>>24182299
Oh come on now anon, put some life into it. Tell me what you're thinking about my cock, what you'd do with it, how much you're getting off to the thought of it. Are you some sort of pillow princess?

>>24182042
Holy shit this is so hot

Is this picture considered worksafe?

>>24182502
Yes.

>>24181378
There's no way a surprise Uki can show up if Kiara and Pomu fly off to a secret destination in Kazakhstan or maybe Mongolia, right?

>>24178410
The only other major 'team' is vshoujo who periodically get some collabs,

>>24182310
Everything from dorkiness, to that girl next door vibe, to that GFE experience but not exactly GFE.

>>24182502
I'll get back to you if I get fired.

>>24182598
It's GFE, (Gremlin Friend Experience), instead of regular GFE. This also applies to most of NijiEN.

>>24173377
/VT/ SISTER NOT LIKE THIS

>>24182225
I love /pol/

>>24182502
Well. won't you provide a source?

>>24178889
Better pray none of the mentally unstable Niji accidentally post the forbidden flag. I would love to see anycolor instant fire them in the same hour and the ensuing seeth from Nijiniggers

Holy shit management needs a tighter leash on these retards

>thread dies the moment we stop talking about dick
A sign that /vt/ only cares about gay. We need to be more homosexual to save the board.

>>24183526
Kill yourself faggot

>>24183950
What's wrong anon? Scared you'll realize something?

>>24175399
I thought he has to apologize to council instead, or is there anything going on with him and Mori that I missed?

>>24173796
>>24173902
I usually don't give a shit, but what did Fulgur do specifically? Or we still talking about the discord shit talk

>>24184145
Yes, its still that, and we'll never let go until he apologizes.
No, his "apology" he made, doesn't count.

>>24184265
>implying you'll let it go even after he apologizes

>>24175323
>funniest NijiEN
peepee poopoo i maed ay doodoo hahaha
I agree with the rest of your points though

>>24175221
>theres also a rrat that her roommate used to browse stormfront
Did that rrat start existing as soon as you made this post?

>>24178889
Did you just... complimenting Hololive? Saying Yagoo doing out of their way just to protect their mediocre talent which also means Nijisanji didn't care and would readily graduate their mediocre talent?

>>24173377
nice

Anyway, fuck nijiniggers