/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24131537
She is doing something now.
Lets get back to Mori.

>>24131537
Kinda
The main complaints have been that she doesn't stream and is kinda boring but she's streaming more now and the last month or so has been pretty entertaining
Gotta wait to see if it sticks tho

Who?

Yes. She should collab with Ina and Kronii more. It brings out the best side of her, and if she did it consistently, she might even develop an identity as a streamer beyond bread and beeg.

Who?

>>24131537
There are too many examples of sana being a complete off beat in her interactions with others. She looks up to her senpai Gura a lot that she is perceived as a little pussy. She is peak insecurity. The sanalights want them to be with gura so that she can gain some traction.

>>24131537
I typed niggersana in chat

>>24131537
I always forget she's a part of Hololive

>>24131537
her interactions with her genmates were pretty bad for a while but her interactions with Kronii last night were easily the best part of the stream for me, I hope she can keep going like that

>>24131537
Anon, it's more have to do with people completely forgot about her

Yeah my only complaint is she didn’t stream and refused to step into the holo box. As long as she is trying there is no reason for me to anti

>>24131988
It get that they're friends but Sana shitting all over Ina in their first collab kinda turned me away from watching her. Ina isn't even my oshi. Perhaps I should give her another chance

>>24131537
>Do you still hate Sana?
I never did

>>24131537
recent minecraft banter with her gen has gotten better than before, so I guess, I can tolerate Sana than Mori right now

The ones who hate her will always hate her and will just give whatever excuse is most convenient for them at the time of asking

>>24131537
I kind of forgave her.

>>24131537
>But today I saw quite a number of people praising Sana’s performance in Minecraft.
?? What's there to praise about? "oh wow, she really mined those blocks well!" or whatever? If anything, people (if they are even actual Sana critics turning around, and not just falseflagging Sanacucks trying to astroturf sympathy for their oshi again) are at best just saying that wow she's actually doing the bare minimum and streaming again (let's see how it lasts this time, before dead dog's back hort again teehee just kidding I'm off drawing chink gacha anyway). She will have "redeemed" herself only when she finally has more streaming days logged than absentee days... so, never

Last night was decent. Sana's 2nd biggest problem (after her just not streaming) is that she is unpracticed and her idalogue comes off as stilted. This will smooth out as she streams more.

>>24132184
>Sana shitting all over Ina
Damn no one told me Sana was based

>>24131537
She was easily the strongest stream of council at the start but after the first month when her dog died, she really took a lot of good will she got from me over the limit. I generally dislike ungrateful people (main reason I hate Mori) and doing almost nothing for months on end, while having received this opportunity people would kill for really soured my taste for her.

I think it'll take a while longer before I really consider her to be redeemed.

>>24131537
>Do you still hate Sana?
Is she still dark?

>>24131537
The problem with Sana was mostly that she didn't stream for very long periods of time, which made people more keen to nitpick what she was doing when she did actually-decide to stream (spam nintendo games for 10 hour blocks exhausting the average viewer there just to try to see some cute girls).

At least the past couple weeks, she's actually getting things right, she's spiggin it, so people are starting to warm up to her again, me included. We just wanted you to fucking stream, Sana.

black vtubers should of never existed

>>24131537
I never hated Sana, in fact I love her. For her huge dark tits and ass.

>Be black
>Make your white friends uncomfortable by making a slave joke
Based Sana. Please stream more.

>>24132798
Mori is grateful, but for dumb niggers like you anyone grateful to anything else tjan Hololive is an act of blasphemy
cultish holobronies

>>24131537
Yes

>>24131537
needs to be consistent then yes she will have redeemed herself.

>>24133900
>should of never
hello sir black bad yes sir

>>24131537
I've never hated her. She is just pretty fucking boring.

>>24131537
I went from dislike to not thinking about her at all until I see a Sana post. I guess I have?

She needs to stream more on her channel. She still seems to have that back hort problem where she can only stream 2~3 hours at most when she streamed much longer before.

Hates to strong a word, I'm indifferent to her and think its a huge shame that they hired her instead of someone that actually would have given a shit.

>>24132505
>What's there to praise about?
lmao i don't know, maybe you could try watching streams?

>>24131537
Numberfags hate her because they are too autistic to appreciate anything that isn't view or sub count.

>Sana is great now guys, she talks really well
Bronies really just grasping at this point to find anything to praise her with.
>>24146925
Or maybe they just hate her because she's a lazy nepotism hire.

I think she has a cute personality and the aussie accent is sexy. Hourglass figure and sun tan is probably the closest we will get to a gyaru in hololive

>>24146632
Literally this.

I love her big, fat, dark tits

>>24147093
still the same, she's cute and smart when not trying too hard with troll stuff like horses.

>>24131537

Nope its all cope and mirrors.

Tutorial boss is getting dabbed on by third rate corpos and inhouse competition left and right.
Her channel will never recover. Sooner musk will buy jewtube and make the sourcecode public.

Pic related average Sana apologist

>>24131799
>There are too many examples of sana being a complete off beat in her interactions with other
thats her focusing on the game instead of focusing on banter. this can be fixed and its arguable if it should be fixed.

>>24147281
I have the same perception of Kiara and Mori
Kiara and Sana are at their best when they are just themselves and not trying to force it
Mori could have been a good streamer if she stopped being so fake and insecure.

>>24131537
I'm still subbed to Sana from back when she was unjustly dumpstered for being black while she wasn't even black. I have not watched anything past her debut stream.

>>24131537
the faggots around here hate everyone. actual people never did hate her.
she has never needed redemption. /vt/ has just needed to take it's meds.
>>24142926
>reeee back problems don't exist reee
meds. and then leads.

I like Sana's Genshin Impact streams.

>>24148918
>reeee don't insult my oshi reeee
She needs to take hers or she'll never recover. Literally.

>Flare tier brown debuff
Understandable.
>dog dies
I kinda get it.
>fucks up her back
Now this I could forgive, but
>instead of coming out and saying what happened, she deliberately kept it secret for several months AND told the rest of council to keep it a secret
>no Twitter updates, no YouTube community updates, no member updates, nothing
Give me one good excuse for that.

>>24131537
I don't hate Sana, I was just disappointed with how she ended up. On her debut month she was fantastic and had massive potential, yet she made a habit of taking off breaks for literal weeks for several times now.
Yes there was that certain passing, which was a perfectly fine reason to take a month break off, but now she spent most of her career making a habit out of it. First it's because of that one big project and now it's because of her back.
I'm not saying she's lying or that her new reasons aren't good enough excuses, but I genuinely wanted her to have credentials to fulfill that underdog role. For me personally, I grew to enjoy how she is currently and I enjoyed those Kirby streams a lot.

>>24150074
>because of that one big project
lol

>>24131537
I like her. I hope she does more streams with Kronii

>>24150156
>2022
>He doesn't know about Sana's other life

>>24151075
>two birthday skins
lol

>>24131537
Saw quite a number of people praising Sana
Reason is simple anon,
Quality>Quantity.

>>24131537
>hating Sana
>implying
Nobody really has any reason to hate Sana, there is no such thing as a Sana anti. All there is is dedicated shitposters. Mori was going really strong and they kept getting laughed out of threads so they latched onto someone they perceived as vulnerable. Then she told them to fuck off and proceeded to not pay any further attention to them so they went back to try and bait Mori.
Now Mori got the UMG deal and is stronger than ever so cucks tried to timeloop into Sana anti'ing for a while, but when that got no engagement and the Nyanners shit exploded they all kinda moved onto that.

There's no antis, just about 5 to 10 faggots that make their life's mission to make this board as terrible as possible.

>>24154780
>There's no antis
Imagine saying this when Sana explicitly stated they're the reason she stopped Holoscopes.

>>24131537
Will she make a schedule and do member content again? If Sana streamed regularly people would absolutely stop criticizing her.

>>24149975
>There was never a back injury
>She couldn't say that the game company she works for her at her other job was in a crunch period.

>>24154908
He's right that they probably aren't Sana specific antis, just general hololive and vtuber ones. And any mention of horoscopes instantly triggers all the "facts and logic" fags.

>>24151147
She's the head of art design newfag.

>>24155942
So the back thing is a cover up for roommate work? That's scummy.

>>24149975
This. I only find Sana infuriating because as weeks flew by and she was posting gacha shit on her roomate she was completely leaving her fans in the dark. There's no fucking excuse for that. Every single talent announces their breaks and explains if its for medical reasons - Sana has no fucking excuse.

>>24131537
who?

>>24146827
Seriously how can no point out how pathetic this is, please give her a chance! I swear that she's changed!! Watch steams isn't an excuse to use if someone previously did and then chose to quit because of poor quality.

>>24131537
She always talks about hating her tits now because of IRL issues, so if she reflects that in her model and gets a flat design she'll win everyone's forgiveness by default. People preferring San over Sana is enough proof to give the idea a greenlight.

>>24131537
>Some claim Sana is not hated in /vt/ at all.
When vt discuss about “why Council flops” or “least favorite Council member’. It’s always Sana.
Why does it even matter Sana beaten Vox? Because it the biggest disgrace. That should tell you enough about Sana’s reputation in /vt/

>Sana’s controversial misdeeds
- Went AWOL without updates or solid explanation.
- Very poor work ethics and have no responsibilities at all.
- Even if Sana did hurt her back, she can still do a lot Twitter space, but she didn’t.
- Show minimal care and concern for fans.
- Very bad PR rep. Sana returned from long break, then claimed she can take as much break as she wants, people who think otherwise can fuck off.
- Became a laughing stock to Niji, by constantly being an irresponsible-selfish dead weight.
- Rarely preprare a stream with efforts, I go to school or work with more passion than Sana.
- Being busy with roommate’s job is not an excuse. Actually it makes Sana look even worse, imagine your mother ditch you because she is busying with another man. If someone isn’t passionate for Hololive, should never apply or gotten the spot, it just fucking mocks the applicants and fans. On the other hand, there are Holomems with side jobs, and still able to stream consistently.

>Sana was my favorite pick upon debut.
I never imagined Sana’s actions could make me slowly turn on her. The worst case scenario is her being boring, but who could have guessed?
If Sana decided to redeem herself now, I might able to put everything behind me.

>>24133900
she’s not black fucking moron

>>24163709
>Broken so bad they didn't know if they could keep working at hololive, let alone bother with PR
>Not a single stream where she hasn't said she how she appreciates her fans since she came back, named every pokemon after viewers, talks about banter she's had with chat in collabs with other members,
>Niji never namedropped Sana, doesn't even matter if you still mog their views
>Games are ready to go and have no technical issues, most of EN aren't ready and need to do tech support at the start
>Still genuinely trying to make someone whose dog died look like the bad guy and not sounding like a psychopath

Her communication was an absolute shitfest, that's all you've got on her. Everything else are rrats you reiterate to convince yourself so you can justify hating her for not fulfilling whatever projections you shunted on her at debut rather than check her out now she streams again.

I just can't hate Sana, thanks to her we got the Sana's dog SC and that was priceless

>>24149975
>>fucks up her back
Was a lie. You get like a week grace period of silence when injured so you have enough to time feel out how bad it is before having to announce that SOMETHING is up. With how long it took her to say anything it was obvious it was just made up shit she decided on after the fact.

>>24163709
Sana isn't lazy when it comes to her roommate's job. Some people thought she'd be like INA, but INA was never as ambitious as SANA.

Hololive was always going to be second in importance and I am sure SANA said as much at the interview.

>>24165797
>Her communication was an absolute shitfest, that's all you've got on her.
Trying to paint Sana's selfish or irresponsible actions as bad communication is pretty insane.
As if Sana is a five year old or cavemen who doesn't know internet.

Why didn't she use her time off to work on her speech disorder?

I don’t hate her, she was actually pretty cute when she and Mori were doing the shiny hunting streams. My problem is just the way she streams, instead of having some variety she just does infrequent 10 hour streams of the newest Nintendo game.

>>24131537
EN chuubas are a mistake even if they actual act like civilized chuubas deep down in their roastie hearts they are still whores and inferior
>I..iits okay when the Japanes do it.
Yes it is fine doing something as a bit for a character and doing it seriously are far different things you oblivious faggots.

>>24155601
Didn't help that she claimed to have some interest in sciences and proceeds to cite random shit without understanding any of it or in the wrong context.

>>24131537
Never hated Sana, always hated Mori. Simple as

>>24131537
>performance in Minecraft

>>24167813
80% of people /here/ do the same shit tho.

Loved her debut, like her accent, like her model.
Day one Sanalite, was really looking forward to her streams. Loved the idea of Holoscope and seemed semi-competent with bideo games. She seemed in the 'new streamer' jitters so I was looking forward to seeing how she developed her personal streaming style as well as interacted with fans.
Her dog passed away, I don't hold it against her, but that really stunted her growth as a streamer not just number-wise, but building a 'relationship' with her chat. I held out hope and kept membership until last month, but I've kinda fallen off on her and canceled it. It's not like she's a 'bad person', it's just that the growing pains that should have happened months ago are happening now and I'm not willing to stick around for them.

>>24167082
>Selfish
Someone who has made art their life career and passion and recently got into a big streaming gig with all their favorite vtubers suddenly find they can't sit at a computer without experiencing excruciating pain and has no guarantees that it will go away.
Acting selfish is about what I'd expect and even then that amounts to not exposing her vulnerable state to a bunch of internet strangers?
>Irresponsible
Irresponsible is getting fired because you can't keep your shit together for one weekend and breach NDAs.
Getting time-off approved by management and informing all your colleagues so they're on the same level about your situation and how to address it in public is doing something. Still fucked up she didn't say something, but it takes the bare minimum amount of empathy to understand why the entertainer doesn't want to depress her audience by saying she might never be able to stream again because her back is fucked.

Be less needy.

She streams more than Ayame so she's spared.

>>24131584
You mean Ayame?

>>24131537
No, we only hate Mori. If Mori wasn't making a shit ton of money she would have graduated herself by now. Facts!

I laughed at her "I actually broke my back" quip in response to Kronii's complaining.

>>24131537
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>>24168567
>She streams more than Ayame
That's not really an accomplishment for any talent. Ayame is the bare fucking minimum.

>>24157322
the back thing was because of her roommates work
thats what you get for working lying down instead of getting a chair and table like a proper human being

>>24131537
I wish there was someone that cares about hololive as much as their JP counterparts do instead. I don't really care about Sana herself just about what she embodies and I don't like it.
Will never watch her though.

>>24172828
Oh don't worry a chair won't save you if you sit on it like an alien.

>>24172861
This.

>>24168503
>suddenly find they can't sit at a computer without experiencing excruciating pain and has no guarantees that it will go away.
Why do you make it sound like she has an incurable disease? if you fuckers actually watched her streams you would know she said her back got fucked because of her new screen tablet. She's not used to drawing while looking down and that's what fucked her over.

>>24131537
I love SANA

>>24172546
>Ayame is the bare fucking minimum.
If you don't understand Ayame
Can you PLEASE shut the fuck up?

Ayame is on a quest to break holo records.

I want her to bring back horoscopes.

>>24172546
Ayame already did stream a fuckton and helped to build up hololive itself, she gets a pass. Meanwhile Sana is just dead weight that hasn't done jack shit.

>>24131537
I never hated her, I just don't really care that much about her in the first place.
There's nothing to hate since she isn't even streaming that much in the first place.

>>24131537
I don't really hate her. She just needs to stop being lazy and stream more

>>24131537
I never hated her, just found her to be kinda cringe but still very sweet as a person. I just couldn't be bothered to care about her anymore because she went so long without streaming. Unfortunate what happened to her back

I somewhat liked from start her until she went MIA for 3-4w+ and then came back and explained it was due to "back problems"

Thats when I started to hate her.

>>24131537
Most of them just throwing tantrum cuz she didn't stream back then. Now she starts streaming again they are silenced. The remnant of them are just nijiniggers

>>24131537
never did

>>24163709
the only people offended by the fuck off thing are mentally ill entitled stream viewer types tbdesu

anyone normal wouldn't care because they're not even being talked to

>>24131537
always

When she was away forever when the dog died I just stopped caring.

>>24131537
Never hated her, she's cute. The only Holo I hate is Mori.

>>24154780
>Now Mori got the UMG deal and is stronger than ever
Mori is on the verge of suicide wdym?

pain hort, but okay to draw, not okay to stream

>>24131537
She's fine, just needs to stream more

>>24165797
The only sad thing about her dog dying is that I didn’t kill it.