/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

too much text, i'm sorry but i'm not reading that

>>24127544
Damn

>>24127615
tl:dr no dying joke and no underage audience in china

>>24127910
>no underage audience in china
Sounds based to me

>>24127544
Vox Akuma in shambles!

NOOOOO MY SUPERCHATS, YOU CANT TAKE MY MONTHLY 20K INCOME AWAY FROM ME

>>24127544
So Niji just put their dick in the trap just as it's snapping shut. I'm predicting that we'll see within a year or two the only allowed Vtubers in China will be ones which are completely owned and run by the state as more indoctrination machines.

Careful, i got banned for posting this a few days ago despite, you know, many vtubers streaming there.

Thank you Coco.

>>24127615
t. Saruei

Weird that they used John F Kennedy as an example.

>>24127544
>Underage user can't superchat
I don't use Bili^2, what's stopping people from making accounts with fake ages?

>>24127544
based china

>>24127544
Were underage users ever able to superchat? Don't you need a credit card for that?

>>24128068
you need to have legit ID to use Bilibili

>>24128024
yeah I was just thinking that, what is joking about him a trend in china or something?

>>24128117

>>24128117
>>24128193
Lol

Imagine getting fucked cuz your 15yr old ass was watching chowa at 11pm

>respect rule
Based, you uncivilized apes could use something like this here

>>24127544
Like its a bad thing.

gooruh fanbase in chinkland destroyed.

>>24128117
lol

>>24128024
Yeah, nothing bad ever happened to the Kennedys!

>>24128451
way to miss the point.
why would the chinese govenment use an american president from 60 years ago as an example of their new rules instead of someone who would presumably be more relevant to their chinese audience?

>1. Underage user can't superchat
Makes sense since it's very unlikely for underage users (mostly teenagers) in China to have their own source of income due to how busy school is and other regulations. They essentially don't want children to spend their parents' money online which happens absurdly often in the US
>2. Underage user can't stream
Children can be easily manipulated or traumatized by their audience so I see no problem here
>3. Provide a filtered, youth-friendly viewing mode
This ties into bigger China's policy basically banning all extreme violence, blood and profanities from younger audiences which include movies as well. In the West most of this kind of content is labeled for 12+ or 15+/16+
>4. Provide a dedicated customer service team for Underage user
No idea dafuq is this about
>5. Prohibit the ranking of users by the amount of money in the broadcast, and prohibit the appearance and name of gifts to lure users
I have mixed feelings about this but after seeing how some vtubers/streamers create "moments" where chat is made to feel in a specific way which ends up creating a huge circlejerk of superchats just because everyone else is doing it, makes me think it's a good preventive measure protecting users from impulsive superchatting/gifting
>6. Strengthen regulations for Underage user during peak hours, and prohibit Underage user from watching streaming after 10pm
China cares about education a lot due to practical reasons and due to face on the international level. In CCP's mind it makes sense anything that hinders good rest or study time should be limited.
>7. Strengthen education on internet regulation
Oh yeah inform all those people how they should not try to overcome your censorship

tr;dr
If I was a teenager I'd be pissed seeing all these limitations but from a grownup's point of view at least 4-5 of them make sense

>>24128286
that's what i'll be doing tonight

>>24128513
retard

china is slowly becoming the conservative heaven

>>24128513
Anon, that was a Simpsons joke about the Kennedys having a tendency to die tragically. I understood the point perfectly and am referencing something that would violate those rules.

>Putting restrictions to underage users on the website.
Sounds good to me.

>All sort of joke on hell or dying is prohibited and will result in punishment including deletion of account.
What a weirdly specific rule, are there a bunch of streamers that joke about death there?

>>24128810
The upper echelon of the CCP is full of 80 year olds that still believe in ghosts and demons and shit. Which is why all supernatural shit is banned in entertainment.

>>24127544
Voxsisters, I don't feel so good

>>24128902
Wuxia has ghosts and demons all the time though?

>>24127544
Coco (peace be upon her) was a prophet.

>>24128810
Considering how Chinese netizens have a tendency to joke via proxy, it might actually be to try and clamp down on subtle death threats.

>>24128902
Actual retard.

Why are these companies fucking with China at all at this point? It's such a huge risk to have any significant amount of capital tied up in that market given how crazy they are about policing media. You're much better off chasing the english speaking market which has less restrictions, and just as much if not more disposable income.

>>24128517
>mommy government knows whats best for me at all times and every decision i make should be heavily scrutinized to be their version of correct

+1200 social credit

>>24129187
They can't afford tp hit a plateau or worse yet, take a dip in profits because then investors will literally cut you apart and git you. The line always needs to go up, short term gains are all that matters.

>>24129187
Dumbass execs see the population size and the official (cooked) economic statistics and see a large potential market. Same reason why Anycolor thought NijiIN was a good idea.

>>24129257
this but unironically but it's daddy government because i hate women

>>24127544
the forth point is going to lead to bilibili staff grooming the kids instead. trying to keep them for themselves the greedy bastards

Anything that keeps chinks to their own hellhole and limits their interaction with the rest of the internet is a plus for me.

>>24127967
>the only allowed Vtubers in China will be ones which are completely owned and run by the state as more indoctrination machines.
They already tried, and the CCP state vtubers currently hold the record for Graduation RTA at less than 3 hours from debut to vanishing off the face of the earth.

>>24127544
I was just thinking about how to make parasocial relationship a healthier activity the other day and also came up with the idea of banning underage donation and rankings. Seems like my thought reverberated through the ether and reached the politburo council. How based of me.

>>24128193
>when you're such an independent, not part of china country that you actually tell everyone that you're just a part of china and not actually independent.

>>24127544
Good. Children should not be on the internet unsupervised.

>>24128655
We must protect American culture like Cheesecake Factory and shakes with crustaceans in them from communist oppression.

>>24129479
>chink anything
>based
lol
i'm afraid you now have become cringe and cuck by association with the chink cuckmunist party. kill yourself now and spare you further humiliation
only fascism is based

>no more 9eleven jokes

>>24129541
this but unironically
murica is a shithole but i'll take it over chinkland every single time

>>24128517
I would also like to know why mandating special customer service for minors e tail. Maybe a reporting thing that people can use to submit claims of inappropriate content to be reviewed as a priority?

I can't imagine why anybody would want to associate with a country that enforces government-mandated starvation with these coof quarantines of late, how long can the money really last?

>>24128164
Chinks all use online paying methods like wechat pay (red envelope) or alipay. Almost nobody uses physical money or credit cards
Children would just log in into their parent's accounts and superchat streamers. The new rules makes it so streaming platforms need to make sure the one superchatting is not a minor, or else they need to refund or suffer sanctions

>>24130080
So anyone regretting their big donos can now say "uhh it was my kid/younger sibling/cousin/etc" and get everything refunded.

>>24127544
none of this shit matters because nobody who is accessing youtube in china is following the law in the first place

>>24130418
How do you think they are going to enforce these new rules?

>>24129808
who cares about chinks dying anyway

>>24130446
only on bilibili

>>24129674
If the USA had a billion people it'd be far worse than China will ever be.

>>24128517
4 means you need to pay regulators if you are making content for kids but none of this will make kids do better on school if not they gonna look for a way to bypass the hours limitation just like they did with video games

>>24130510
There are more streaming platforms other than bilibili

>>24127544
Ive said this before in a previous thread but this barely matters. Its more rules that the CCP will selectively enforce when someone catches their ire. Chinks have tons of laws that go basically ignored and everyone's cool with it, they're just there to crack down on those they dont like. At worst they can use these laws (and the ones already in place) to take a huge shit on BiliBili like they did to Tencent a while back.

China is going full in on the boiling frog method.
Give it another two years and all streamers will have to have their content approved by CCP agents before the stream, and all streams on a delay. If they're not banned outright by then.

>>24130316
That was already a thing without needing to claim it was done by a child. Now it makes streaming platforms bear the responsibility of weeding out minors or else their business will get suspended

>>24130557
not if those people were all white
racial hygiene matters

>>24127544
Underage views are just inflating numbers, its the 18+ viewers that pay the bills, so no big deal

>>24127544
All of the new streaming rules are incredibly based and should have been strictly enforced already by the child’s parental figure

>>24131311
Uh sorry, I cant make babies AND parent them. They go to school for that shit.

>>24128513
I suspect they're looking for something neutral to deflect with instead of go "it really means that if you even joke about untimely deaths and CCP leaders your channel is done" although I would have assumed that was already the case anyway.

In any case some of these rules are actually pretty based, banning underage from donating or even watching for much of the time they'd be available, banning numberfagging by SCs etc. Still though yeah this might pinch Vox/Luxiem a bit. I dunno if it's really a lot because little kids don't really have money anyway and I thought a lot of his fans are random college girls/office ladies, but it might be a couple percent, who knows.

>>24127544
Cool. Maybe you should post it on reddit or some Chinese forums instead of here though

>>24131062
If the USA were white it wouldn't be the mongoloid mutt country it has been from the start.

>>24127544
What does point 5 supposed to mean? The streamers there makes a public post of their gachis and rank them?

>>24127544
doesn't apply to underages using VPNs to YouTube though

>>24132279
Maybe something like Twitch's top donor that appear above the chat.

>>24132279
You know how some streamers have stuff like
"Recent Donations: daddyslilgirluwu $100
Top donor this month: rapemevoxsama $5000"
On the side of the stream? Can't do that anymore.

>>24132279
Gifts and superchats appear on screen, as well as the ranking of top donors on the right

>>24127544
interesting, but why should i care though?

>>24127977
If you have issues with the janny, please report them at this link: https://www.4channel.org/feedback

China won AGAIN.

How will /vt/ ever recover?

>>24128024
Not really, the Kennedy assassination is a hot bed for conspiracy theories.

>>24128024
>>24128179
This guy names Chaos in Virtuareal made a parody about JFK including footage of his headshot to the song of S'il vous President. It is deleted now. I liked posting it because it was so absurd especially for china

Sounds pretty based, I wish we could have something like this for our own nations instead of just further liberal globohomo degeneracy

They aren't going to punish cotton basket chuuba right?

>>24132856
>Virtuareal
Enikara...

>>24132895
>Getting less freedom, becoming a slave to your government
>Based

lmao

>>24132856
>draw a girl
>call it a boy

>>24132996
>you need to give children the freedom to cut their dicks at early ages!

>>24133017
That is just genderbend art of him, idk how to get normal images of Virtuareal vtubers since most of their wiki entries are low quality

>>24127544
Sounds reasonable.

>>24133076
Looks like bootleg Kuzuha

>>24132996
You need to at least be able to vote before you can complain about my freederino.

>>24130922
More like two months if anyone in the CCP realizes a furry British man working in a Japanese company is successfully wooing thousands of Chinese girls into opening up their wallets. That is a fucking double whammy of historical conquerers for them to contend with.

I think NijiEN have planned for this, based on the fact that only Luxiem, not the girl gens or Noctyx are being pushed on billibilli. They'll get their bag from chinese fujos, the incel devs at Billibilli will get jealous and will establish new rules to lessen their influence, and then they'll just dip whenever they have a yab or it is unreasonable to stream on Billibilli anymore.

Kinda based, based Vox for making chinese pussies wet and bugmen seethe

>>24127544
I mean the rule that a minor can't superchat is not retarded, moreover a minor don't have the disposable income to superchat and he should use those money to go out or some shit.
>Underage user can't stream
well is a bit rtarded because most of the content creators started young and became sucessful, you remove the possibility to get new talents that could dominate the market, even if is rare to have an underage streamer even in the west, so is a non problem really.
>not watching streams after 10pm
that sucks, but they have this for videogames too I think
>death jokes
wtf lol, still is a bad taste thing to do, but not something that really needs regulation
could have been worse

>>24133226
Male chinks will probably report him to the CCP

>>24133443
I wonder if it's haram for vtubers in china to say your mother is dead now.

most of those rules are actually based and tradpilled.
it's good to prevent children from being poisoned by social media. wether it will work or not is another story, people are constantly skirting around restrictions there

>>24133730
Very funny to call China "tradpilled" considering 1966

>>24132996
It's based when the government takes rights away from people I don't like
If I have to lose rights myself for that then so be it the only freedom I really need to live is to scream nigger on the internet

>>24133938
suck off a nigger gweilo

>>24133938
as opposed to the 1960's in america? yeah those were the days of traditional family values lmao.

>>24127544
Kinda missing the part where any of these are bad, chief.

>>24129187
>. You're much better off chasing the english speaking market which has less restrictions,
English-speaking market is MUCH harsher on anything sexy or anything that could be construed as "racist".

>>24134369
You can get away with hot tub and ear licking streams on twitch with no age restriction what are you talking about

>>24134508
3DPD runs off wildly different rules and people bend over backwards whereas anything cartoony gets fucked over, yes.
Thank you, anon.
Very observant.

>>24129462
Seriously??

>>24127544
Not my problem.

>>24133938
xi jinping's government is traditional conservative and has nothing to do with mao. the right wings has taken over china since him

The amount of people supportive of the chinks in this thread is astounding to me, this shit is fucking stupid and every day i'm glad coco fucked up so bad that hololive will never be involved in china again. i hope something similar happens for niji because jesus fucking christ these subhumans constantly policing every little fucking thing makes me ill

>>24127544
THANK YOU COCO

>>24134808
It doesn't directly affect me and the rules targets values I don't like so it's LE BASED!!!111!!!

>>24134808
I only like the concept of it because it gives them a chance to do something more productive with their time, but I'm aware that's not how the real world works. It would be funny to see vtubing as a whole become illegal globally though just to see how "based" these "people" think that is.

>>24133974
Are you insane?

>>24127544
It sounds good on the paper but knowing CCP, 100% sure they will somehow twist and bend these rules for their own convenient and whim

>>24128691
it was Clone High

>>24136355
i'm based which might seem insane to you in a cringe world

just look at that chang damage control LMAO.
also don't forget:
The list of game elements banned in China:
- No underage love allows.
- No blood allowed.
- No words allowed that could let one think of murder such as "kill".
- No females in underwear allowed, no cleavage allowed.
- No attacks on female genitals or breasts allowed, no touching them allowed.
- No provoking the opponent allowed.
- No skulls or bones allowed.
- No brutal actions allowed (Hunting non-humans is legal).
- No getting rewards from PvP content allowed.
- No scaring the player allowed.
- No content depicting democracy allowed.
- No demonstrations allowed.
- No content going against communism allowed.
- No glorification of people or countries that invaded or colonized china allowed.
- No content allowed that depicts great chinese people as something they were not in reality.
- No content about genitals or content hinting at genitals allowed.
- No sex allowed, no content hinting at sex allowed.
- No content about body transformation or body modification allowed.
- No content about drugs and mental degradation allowed.
- No content about degrading others allowed.
- No content depicting prostitution or anti-society organizations allowed.
- No works about fortune-telling and other non-scientific actions allowed.
- No english allowed.

>>24138266
>No works about fortune-telling and other non-scientific actions allowed.
>No content depicting prostitution or anti-society organizations allowed.
Wait, isn't Mona a character in genshin?

>>24140850
Wait, Mona is canonically an anal prostitute? I can't believe I dropped the game before that

I thought Chinese religion was Buddhism and as such there is no such thing as "hell"?

>>24127544

In all seriousness the only way all these policies to make youth less retarded work is if the government invests in more alternatives for leisure, just prohibiting shit is not enough. For ex Iceland managed to make teens stop using drugs and spending more time with family by adopting curfews/bans AND building a lot of gyms and sports centers plus giving benefits for parents to work less and be at home more.

>>24127544
>John F. Kennedy as examples, saying that making jokes about historical deaths would be considered a violation
THEY KNOW SHUT IT DOWN

>>24127544
>enforce interracial couplings at college dorms

>>24141241
>I thought Chinese religion was Buddhism
No it's Winnie-the-Poohism.

>>24138266
But they break these all the time.

>>24138266
Considering the west's worship of trannies and niggers, are the Chinese really that bad? We already fought for the wrong side once, maybe we were wrong again this time.

>>24144710
the west will suck nigger's dick and trannies ass just to prove china is le bad lmao

it's happening...

>>24143533
>>24144710
>hate trannys
>makes the population gay
you can check the twitter accounts of chinese watching vtubers (niji and even holo), they are full of trannys.

>>24146765
deflecting gwei lo

>>24147189
oh look, a roach

The point is that your opinion wouldn't matter, and you won't be allowed to express it. Imagine getting cancelled on twitter for saying something politically incorrect vs. getting cancelled irl for saying something politically incorrect.

It's a luxury that the west, especially tankies, takes for granted

>>24138246
How is the world cringe? Isn't the concept of cringeness subjective?