/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

elira sent me her lewd twice a week idk about other chuuba

>>23938375
They should create competition board for every chuuba, like on twitch/bilibili, and the winner/s get the pff, video at least. Yeah, yeah, condom fund and cuck but not that bad as it seems.

>implying anyone here has had even an e-girl talk to them

I love her but this kind of thing feels really manipulative. It's no wonder she had so many insanely huge whales though

>>23938375
Was this after the termination?

>>23938520
long before, of course. But the whale leaked it after the termination, because he knew he's not getting anything new anymore.

>>23938478
>but this kind of thing feels really manipulative
because it is. she doesn't give a shit about any one of these men as people; they're just wallets to her. but they're lonely and as long as she can convince them they're special they'll continue paying her bills.

>>23938375
Based Rushia going the extra mile for her fans.

If I paid you 400 bucks to sit in a discord call with me and watch The Shining would you turn me down?

>>23938375
Hololive reddit still love her eventhough she clearly a manipulative bitch that take advantage of schizos as her moneybags. Seems like just wearing an anime face is enough to make weebs go blind in the head

>>23938634
its ok if literal who did it

>>23938375
These two let you pick one of them to talk to 1-on-1 on voice call for two minutes each month if you keep subscribing to their premium membership

>>23938603
>>23938688
if you think Rushia is the only one doing that in hololive, you're delusional.

>a vtuber did something nice she didn't have to for a gachikoi who gave her a metric fuckton of money
>she didn't advertise it and it was just between them
Imagine trying to spin this against Rushia when you have loads of chuubas who don't give a single shit if you give them an akasupa.

Yall acting like newfags stuff like that has been going on for a long time now, remember the Hololive 1min meet and greet event ? It was in 2020.

>>23938443
post it

>>23938634
Has anyone redeemed any of these?

>>23938375
fuck russia, hope all homolive got fired too

>>23938634
Why the fuck are these whores so expensive? With just around 100 bucks, you can find good looking and decently intelligent/ knowledgeable girls / escorts to hang out with. 400$ for a Discord date? WTH

>>23938375
You know how Ayame hardly ever streams, but still gets big donos? This is how she does it.

>>23938849
>Imagine defending e-whore who treated her fans based on their wallets

>>23938849
Dude, its predatory as fuck and encourages the kind of fan that would stab them for talking to a male.

>>23938634
this is fine but rushia sending a thanks messages somehow a fucked up thing to do

they don’t do this stuff with their hololive accounts too risky but on personal accounts they will talk with their biggest whales the hololive whales get nothing extra because most of that money goes to YouTube and the company

>>23938478
Women are manipulative? STOP THE PRESSES!

JEALOUS NORMIES ITT!!!

>>23939245
There's been raids of poorfags and tumblr warriors lately, guess Vtubers are becoming mainstream.

This sounds like a fox and grapes situation. Guess what? There's a chance your oshi does it for her biggest whales too.

>>23938375
Not a whale but I've only been DM'd by 2 vtubers. One never responded and the other went AWOL even after they specified they were gonna need me for something.

I guess I'm not bothered by it too much but it means a possible job in an interesting field not coming into fruition. Oh well.

>>23938375
Regardless of how you twist it, I wouldn't tell you who

>>23939351
tell us without a proof. I'll believe you even if it's made up.

>>23939088
I fully endorse this rrat. The difference in the amount of effort it would take for her to fully whore herself out to a handful of people versus streaming on a regular basis is massive.

>>23939403
Yes we need more material for our commie propaganda it's running a bit dry, atleast we secured a new OP for now.

I don't see how this is different from paying your favorite celebrity to make a personalized video for you on cameo.

>>23938375
islam was right about women

>>23938851
there was one a few months ago too retard.

>>23939449
It's even more tame than that. She did it as a bonus service without advertising it or anything.

>>23939483
Doesn't change my point that it's an established practice in this industry to pay more for a front row access to your oshi's fanlist and everyone is now sperging out about it.

>>23939306
It's less Vtubers becoming mainstream, and more Twitter users seeking clout and not realizing that this is 4chan and there's a 75% chance any given post you read is just meant to fuck with people.

>>23938375
>give an enormous amount of money
>receive a private video made personally for thanking him
>leak it to everyone, thus loosing the only advantage he had over all the other poor bastards
Wtf? If I was in his place I would have leak it without sound or something. He was the only one in the whole damn world to have this video, why the fuck did he want to share it?

>>23940009
because it was past Rushia's termination and he didn't give a fuck anymore. But most of the people share your simp mindset.

>>23940009
I think he leaked it to act as a character witness and show how dedicated she was to her fanbase. He's still whaling for her as Mikeneko.

>>23940089
But can you imagine the reactions from the poor schizo fans if they saw this video without any sound or a shitty one? How frustrated they would have been as they would have never been able to know what she was saying?
Damn, it was such a great opportunity and this guy just leak it like that without using it

>>23940545
weird

>>23939056
The target audience is afraid of women actually being able to see and smell them.

literal groomer behavior. call it a reward but you're rewarding people for throwing away massive amounts of money and encouraging them to keep doing it without consideration for their financial security while also considering to foster unhealthy parasocial relationships

In HoloEn mori definitely talks to her paypigs on her off account. I don’t know about others

>>23942183
posts criticizing mori are a bannable offense, anon.

>>23942252
Even the janny (who’s probably a paypig) is aware though

>>23938634
I got curious and looked them up, this one seems like she would fit right in on /vt/

>>23942890
She's /here/, so you're not wrong.

since we know the models can get naked, you think she send the biggest paypigs some virtual nudes?

>>23943808
>since we know the models can get naked
They don't.

>>23943856
One of the Kawaii girls accidentally did on stream.

>>23944012
this is an exception, not a rule. Hololive girls are all clothed and have no "nude" live2d base. Most of the indies also are clothed with no nude base. If this incident you've mentioned has really happened, it makes me wonder what the fuck were they thinking in the first place.

>>23942084
what do you gain by saying this?
everyone knows and nobody cares

>>23944161
Didn't holoEN say that before debut when they all met up on "stream" that gura went into it naked?

>>23944445
I'm trying to get into a fight on /vt/ cuz i have nothing to do at work

>>23938748
Has anyone ever talked to a Vtuber they liked like this? I can't imagine. I think it would feel very artificial, what with the time limit and all. I guess you could kind of look at it as a super-superchat?

>>23938634
>This is okay
>Rushia dming a thank you video to top donors? WHORE
Rushia mindbroke /vt/. their irrational hatred towards Rushia is bugman level.

>>23944161
That incident did happen. I saw a clip. I don't know why the fuck they use nude bases with nipples too for fucks sake.
When Kiara and Ina designed outfits for Council and Hope Ina did draw up nude bases for all the girls however they didn't have nips or slits.

>>23938601
B-but cuckfami told me that she totally loves them and that I just can't understand because my emotions are stunted or I'd understand that she can absolutely love someone she doesn't even know exists! kek
I'm a Mike anti simply because of how insufferable her cucks are, spamming threads about her daily despite having a general to talk about her in. The most obnoxious fanbase on this board by far.
>>23939174
>>23945737
>literally just one person saying it's fine
>OMG WAAAAAAH LOOK GUYS EVERYONE THINKS THIS IS FINE BUT NOT RUSHIA! WAAAAAAAH REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Go back to your containment thread, cuckfami.

>>23938375
Hitomi Chris sent me her nudes

>>23944846
Just make a rosemi thread bro.
I haven't seen one in a while, and I'm itching to bash on some rosebuds.

>>23939138
>encourages the kind of fan that would stab them for talking to a male
Good.

>>23938748
>2 min
wtf would that even be like?
>Hey
>Hi
>I like your stuff, a big fan
>That's nice
>[silence]
>so I jerk off to your streams sometimes
>What?
>Huh?
>[disconnects]

>>23949943
>my emotions are stunted or I'd understand that she can absolutely love someone she doesn't even know exists!
>doesn't even know exists!
Your emotions are stunted but you are also retarded

>>23938375
My god this sounds so fucking evil. Especially after what she did.

Kiara sent me pics of her panties, shit was so cash

>>23947999
It's just that one chuuba's mama lacking any discretion. It definitely isn't the norm.

>>23938478
>I love her but this kind of thing feels really manipulative
It's only manipulative if she did this for nothing but money and doesn't love her fans.

>>23938634
I have more subs than the 2views in this pic combined and they cant even have ads yet and here they are charging 400 bucks for a discord session. Youve gotta be kidding me

>>23938748
two minutes is kinda cheap, at elast five would do the trick unless they have tens of subscribers

>>23951104
It's actually not manipulative at all and many chuubas do similar or more direct chats with fans than thank you videos and happy birthdays but some people need to try really hard to find reasons to be angry at her I guess.

>>23950941
you too ?

>>23938375
jus her, lol

>>23951331
True, my statement applied more to GFE in general. Connecting with your fans isn't a bad thing.

>>23938634
>>23951268
I wonder if somebody actually buy that, I understand the voice pack, but even that is quite expensive depending on the lenght

>people are finding out vtubers have a “hidden menu”
just bought a personalized asmr countdown from Fauna and a discord call from IRyS. btw I’m a Saudi prince

>>23951694
>he doesnt use his money to make bioweapons and recruit terrorists to destroy western civilization
Unbased

>>23951694
>arabic prince
>don't have access to vr sessions with full body stimulation implants
ngmi

>>23951833
>he’s not trying to destroy the west
>financing vtubers
aren’t I?

>>23944471
As in irl gura naked at the facecam, not the 2d model, lol.

>>23938634
Does anyone remember how much yumenograph or whatever their name was charged? The failed anykara project with the hostesses.

>>23952038
Fair point, desu

>>23938375
Where is video?

I want to receive personalized farts

>>23952236
Rushia doesn't fart

>>23952236
Here you go buddy:
>>23861763

>Pinned folder named after her largest whale

>>23954094
how can saplings recover

>>23954094
I dont believe it it's too big to be true

>>23954094
whats in the estella folder

>>23938375
I'm so glad I don't simp for anyone. I once stopped going to a local restaurant when they knew me well enough to suggest I get "the usual"

>>23942890
>order some groceries
Lazy whore

>>23954740
private asmr

>>23952708
Rushia doesn't do anything anymore bro

>>23955281
Mikeneko doesn't fart

>>23955346
now that's a fact

>>23954740
Dickpics she got in DMs

>>23950630
i'd pay to hear this conversation go down honestly

>He still hasnt gotten an invite to Sanas private streams with nude model

geez you guys must be stingy as fuck with your superchats

>>23938634
No anon, I would watch the movie with you and if I had a good time I would give you your money back.

Companies, IRL celebrities, and e-celebs have been doing this type of thing for decades. Fans paying for special interactions is nothing new.

>>23955872
But this wasn't something they paid for. Some of the people who said they got these barely gave anything, and one of her literal biggest paypigs complained about never getting something like this.

>>23942890
Kek. I hope this whore sees this thread and is seething

>>23954740
My nudes

>>23951623
Ngl, the voicepacks and Discord dates sound enticing for trolling. I'd be down to pay 400 bucks to just do my taxes while one of them has to sit through this in the call.

Fallenshadow has DMs on her secret menhera alt account open, I've talked with her a few times and so have other anons. Some schizo actually messaged her after a bait thread here because one of her mods was being a weirdo groomer and she actually responded and talked to the mod which led to him having a massive menhera meltdown and deleting all of his social media only to reopen it and start making crazy sympathy bait tweets.
Mostly I just tell her new videos are good or a particular stream was nice and she'll respond a day or two later and thank me. She's sent me a couple cute photos of her model when she replied which was nice. I'm a prime sub and I've given maybe 5k bits and a few subs so it's not like I'm a massive gachi or anything, I wonder if she's like this with everyone. Wouldn't be surprised if her big gachis got videos.

>>23952095
No that definitely wasn't it, was 100% something to do with live2d.
I remember it being described as a bug, and cameras don't accidentally make you naked

>>23957634
dropped her.

>>23958152
>dropping a parasocial vtuber for being parasocial
She has no friends anon, she needs me. You could be talking to her too, you're just too much of a bitch to DM her.
I never really expected her to reply, but it seems right that she does. So many western whores pretend they give a shit about their fans but ignore them outside of streams when they have money thrown at them.

>>23958285
>be paypig
>she throws you a bone and responds to your dm
>somehow that makes you besties now
nigger she's just playing you to keep donating

>>23958357
She's been streaming with pneumonia after she turned down going to the hospital because she needs to keep making content. She lives online.
She said she likes money because it means she can commission art and support her family, but ultimately she just likes having fun and making people happy.
She was struggling to breathe on stream and barely able to talk because she was so high on meds and rambling about how she just wishes she could make everyone happy, and she hates how she'll never be able to please everyone.
Just because your Holowhores don't stream for a month with a common cold doesn't mean everyone out there is a money hungry whore who will do anything for an akasupa.

What about the time Towa asked someone to delete a cum tribute

>>23954094
>webm

>>23958784

>>23958732
my holowhore bawled her eyes out after being on a 3 month break and now she's currently one of the streamers with most hours put in the entire company, and instead of responding to DMs and playing favorites she does small events where she responds to tweets and replies en masse. you can love your fans and not have favorites or do things that would alienate the other viewers

>>23959022
I was talking more the EN girls. I've never known streamers that hate streaming so blatantly.
I've never watched Miko but I think she's Shondo's oshi now Rushia is kill so I have no problem with her. If my wife likes her I do too.
I don't think it's alienating if you reply to all messages, which I will assume until someone comes forward and says she didn't.

>>23959022
why do you think she hasn't dmed anyone

>>23959207
because miko's been around for far longer than your average chuuba and despite playing the retard she's wise enough to know how to handle her fanbase, which is why you never see her involved in any meaningful yab ever
>>23959091
i recommend miko even if you're EOP, she puts her everything into streams and doesn't constantly play fotm shit. right now she's making waves in the japanese wrestling scene with two pro wrestlers talking to her, one wanting to collab. i'm sure that if miko was an EN she would outclass any holo simply due to how entertaining and hard working she is

>>23959432
Sure but it would only be a yab if the content of the dm was inappropriate

>>23959432
>puts her everything into streams
>doesn't constantly play FOTM
>entertaining and hardworking
>cute baby voice
I knew a little about her but I understand why Shadow likes her now, she said Miko was one of her biggest inspirations to her. I'll bite anon, I'll go watch a VOD or two. Thanks. I still don't think DM-ing is wrong if you genuinely care and you're not just trying to be a whore. Shadow doesn't treat nonsubs any different to big gachis, before I sent her a dime she replied to me just as much as she does now.

>>23950630
Look up Kpop fan calls

>>23959558
i don't know, i think viewers should be kept at arms length unless they actively help your stream with art/clips etc just so the others don't feel jealous, it's not out of dislike but just because i'd want to keep everyone on the same level
i'd watch these clips if you want to get an idea of miko's personality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJH1yrII9es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vRXqBCFH4&list=LL&index=51

>>23959749
Dunno about clippers but im fine with artists since they're obviously feminine

>>23958879
Isn't 4chan pretty much the only place that uses webm?

>>23938375
Selen sends me feet pics. More chuubas should follow this business model desu

>>23938375
the first instance of it coming out that a Holo doing it was Doris of the CN branch and at the time people passed it off as "zhangs being zhangs" but I'm not so sure... she was even doing the whole "if I marry, I would only want to marry a fan because they understand me" dangle the carrot trick that Rushia was doing. I don't think everyone is doing it but it's pretty easy to imagine that someone like Lamy is doing it too.

>>23945515
>Has anyone ever talked to a Vtuber they liked like this?
Does any other vtuber offer the same thing?
>>23951300
I think making it 3 mins is better

>>23959749
I think it's personally fine if you feel confident about being able to commit time to interactions and don't show intentional favoritism. If you for example send 1 or 2 replies a month, yeah maybe, but if you're on Twitter and respond to like dozens of messages or tweets at you a day, then those replies feel special to the people getting them but to the chuuba it's more like choosing a chat message to respond to but slower. Does that make sense?

>>23954094
Is that a screen name people recognize?
>>23958879
She is /here

>>23938688
>take advantage of schizos as her moneybags.
based
>>23954757
I've freaked out and dipped out of streams from chubbas reading my normal chats.

>>23938634
>400 for a discord date
I can pay very high end escorts to do that IRL and fuck afterwards
What is even the point?

I've spoken with a few indies, towa, ruri, menhera yomi, and coco in DMs. Usually for indies and small corpos its them thanking me for something or membership. for Towa it was tech support

>>23963821
But do the escorts have clout?

>>23939174
It's fucked up because you actually believe Rushia does it out of love and not the money she received. Would you say the same about these small corpos that are actually transparent about how much you need to pay them?

>>23938845
Name all the others instead of posting vague garbage.

>>23965025
>It's fucked up because you actually believe Rushia does it out of love and not the money she received
Anon it's only fucked up because you refuse to acknowledge the possibility of any chuuba ever doing it out of love
Even if somehow a genderbent Jesus Christ himself was a GFE vtuber you would STILL claim that they're a liar and manipulator.

>>23965445
She's not doing it out of love.

I love my wife and she loves me, what's so hard to understand?

>>23965688
She loves mafumafu more

>>23938634
>If I paid you 400 bucks to sit in a discord call with me and watch The Shining would you turn me down?
Is this an offer?
I mean I'd watch The Shining with you, but I don't use Discord.
Could we settle on some other streaming/calling platform at $226? Nearly half price at a dollar a minute. Of course that'd be in advance as these girls would get.

>>23965688
She also loves me

>>23965506
Of couse you wouldn't be able to recognize something your family never gave to you.

>>23965688
I made this post

>>23967419
If she's doing it out of love then so are the ones selling discord calls. Are you sure you want to go down this path?

>>23967557
That's like saying that paying a prostitute to go on a date with you is the same as going on a date with a woman who expects for you to pay for the first date.

>>23967557
You talk like it's not possible to work on a field both because of the money and because you enjoy interacting with the subject/people in there. Stop creating a false dichotomy.

>>23967630
>>23967677
You're the ones that compared the two, you fucking retards.
>this is fine but rushia sending a thanks messages somehow a fucked up thing to do

>>23944012
drop name, anon

>>23967809
'I' didn't say that, you're confusing me with the other schizo in the thread.

>>23968054
You all have the same opinions.

>>23968077
This isn't a video game tutorial

>>23954094
Nipple twisting with Fauna

>>23965506
Can't prove it.
She seemed pretty cray she very well could have been in love with her chat. Much like that dude that was in love with his car.

>>23969283
Oh man if she did that me I would lose it.

>>23973276
If she did it out of love then she attempted to cuck her chat because she wanted a relationship with another guy.

>>23973643
Cope, at this point it seems more likely that little dude wanted her and she didn't accept

>>23973731
If he was the one that wanted her she wouldn't be the one seeking relationship advice from korekore.
>いつか良い恋愛ができるようにします

>>23974004
That doesn't make sense

>>23974329
She wanted to have a nice romantic relationship with mafumafu and talked about that to korekore.
Of course none of this will make any sense to you since you mentally block out all the parts you don't want to see.

>>23974399
No she didn't.
I have no vested interest, it's just obvious.

>>23974446
>No she didn't.
Yes she did.
>いつか良い恋愛ができるようにします
This is what she said after describing her fucked up situation of not even being able to go out to eat with him.

>>23974547
I dunno to me it seems like you're incapable of being correct

>>23974597
Why is the talking about wanting a romantic relationship?

>>23974617
That's just what you're saying and I can tell that you haven't said a thing that's correct all day

>>23974710
So you're saying she didn't say this?
>>いつか良い恋愛ができるようにします

>>23974734
I mostly watch the blonde holos and Mio.
I'm saying that whatever you have said or will say at any point, will be wrong

>>23974807
Why can't you answer the question? Did she say this or not.
>いつか良い恋愛ができるようにします

>>23974882
I don't care about single lines quotes from a conversation and it suggests to me that it's being used incorrectly, by a person who can't ever be correct.

>>23974807
Notice how he only posts a single line
It's because he only has one, and then when you answer he'll then "fill in" the rest with headcanon of his own instead of lines.

>>23974968
Yeah it's a grab em by the pussy moment for sure

>>23974926
Nothing about it is incorrect. Let's hear your explanation for the whole message. You won't provide one.
If you have no vested interest why are you this deep into denying that she wanted to have a romantic relationship with mafumafu?

>>23974968
You're the one that always has to rely on headcanon. The full message is now in the thread but you didn't need it because you're already seen it. You just claim the 良い恋愛 has nothing to do with the rest of the message.

>>23975122
I can translate it
Happy New Year! !
I was too busy last year to contact you, but I was told by the person who went back to you before that I could no longer go out for dinner or anything else before December.
I was too busy last year to contact him, but he told me before December that he couldn't have dinner with me anymore because I was too inquisitive. --I was so shocked!
I'm sorry for being too busy. I'm sorry for being so shocking and for being so distant.
I will try to have a good relationship someday.
Thank you very much.
>If you have no vested interest why are you this deep into denying that she wanted to have a romantic relationship with mafumafu?
That's not what im trying to do, I was just here because earlier I said >>23944471
and then I noticed you and you come across as someone who is often wrong and I felt like pointing that out.

>>23975122

>>23975228
>良い恋愛
It's quite literally the opposite, you act like the only way it could relate is if it means what you want, and say that any other explanation doesn't "make sense"

>>23954094
Atleast it's a woman's name.

>>23975339
Now what is the meaning of
>I will try to have a good relationship someday.
here? What relationship?

>>23975390
If you don't want to have the conversation stop lying about it.

>>23975481
How is it the opposite? You're not making any sense. You're completely delusional.

>Rushia wants Mafu2
>Fails
>Out of frustration falls in love with her chat because we always loved her
>Now she's our wife
Is this not the narrative

>>23940182
>how dedicated she was to her fanbase
just the 'generous' ones

>>23975627
You left out the part where she was talking to him while being your wife.

>>23975494
It says what it means. She contacted the dramatuber to clarify a relationship yab and after saying sorry for not contacting him in over a year she said that in the future she will try to have a good relationship.
Doesn't seem very complicated to me, your rationale would only make sense if the GTA thing didn't happen and she was saying this for seemingly no reason

>>23975737
>She contacted the dramatuber to clarify a relationship yab
The message is from 2nd of January, idiot. She wasn't clarifying anything.

>>23975627
No, and there is no "narrative". Rushia loved Fandead and Mikeneko loves Nekofami.

>>23938375
Vtubing is just anime prostitution

>>23975808
Then what you're saying makes even less sense

>>23975808
>She wasn't clarifying anything.
Yes, she was, it just wasn't what that poster said. If you actually knew enough Japanese to realize how passive the sentence いつか良い恋愛ができるようにします was you'd realize that if it was a comment based on something she was trying to do she would have phrased it differently.

>>23940545
Why would she even care about poorfags

>>23975932
Why was the talking about her relationships on 2nd of January? Nothing you have said makes sense because you don't even know what happened.

>>23975969
Yeah she was clarifying her failed 恋愛 with mafumafu. No number of "you don't know Japanese" changes the fact that she was talking about love.

>>23976077
I'm pretty sure everything I've said makes sense.
I don't care, I just know how guys are when they're the ones who were rejected.

>>23976187
>I don't care
You clearly do. You seem very invested in denying that she wanted to have a relationship despite not even knowing the facts.

>>23958784
>>23959004
Would deep down, Towa had saved that image before it got deleted? My mind says no, but who knows if she would do it.

>>23976077
>Yeah she was clarifying her failed 恋愛 with mafumafu
You being unable to grasp that the topic of her love life could have come up in their previous conversation from a year ago that she was addressing here even if she wasn't pursuing him, your headcanon means very little

>>23976259
I enjoy pointing out people being wrong, it's my thing.
Like how past, present and future you will continue to be incorrect. It's a hunch.

Dude barely donated to her so can't be called a whale, it was just his birthday and he had a butterfly oshi mark
Also the video is clearly an edit, his usernname's audio quality sounds like it was taken from some random stream and overlaid with a completely seperate birthday audio file from a stream

>>23976290
>could have
When your interpretation relies on uncertainty, you've lost.
There's no reason to believe that based on everything that happened, and so what if it did? It would change nothing. The phrase still implies that she does not have 恋愛 at that moment, meaning she was not in love with you.

>>23976316
>I enjoy pointing out people being wrong, it's my thing.
Highly ironic considering you don't know shit and claimed this message happened after the GTA stream.
You haven't been correct at any point in this thread.

>>23976658
That's not how that was, I had fun translating the comment and didn't concern myself with the date.
Again, you'll never be correct at any time. Your curse of being wrong all the time could even be seeping into your real life, seems likely.

>>23976779
You had fun being wrong, because that's your thing. You are the one anon who's always wrong.

>>23976826
Doesn't work on me.

>>23976583
>The phrase still implies that she does not have 恋愛 at that moment, meaning she was not in love with you.
Nigger do you really think she was gonna out and out say "I'm in a relationship with my fans" to korekore? She kept those admissions hidden in her unarchived twitcasts and away from her broader fanbase and public knowledge for a reason.

>>23976847
You were literally wrong and failed to explain what the messages were about.

>>23975858
Works for me. I love my wife!

>>23976898
Nope, I was right. Your rationale only makes sense if the GTA thing didn't happen.

>>23976848
Why would she talk to him about love if she had it all along? Your argument about them having a separate conversation about it makes less and less sense the more you talk.
I bet you'll go for the "it was an ice breaker!" thing again next.

>>23976932
If you were right what was this "relationship yab" she was clarifying on the 2nd of January?

>>23976978
>Why would she talk to him about love if she had it all along?
Does korekore not strike you as the kind of faggot to assume she's interested romantically in a guy she begins to ask about? You know the type

>>23977038
Change it to clarifying X, I only said it because of you being wrong and its rubbing off on other people.
Like I said, im here to point out you being wrong.

>>23977100
You literally just claimed that the 恋愛 line had nothing to do with mafumafu, but now you're saying it does. You're all over the place and it seems like you just make shit up as you go.

>>23977115
What was she clarifying?
Also we're well past the point of you not having any vested interest. Clearly Rushia's relationship status is very important to you.

>>23977231
It's not about that for me. I only use information to say other people are wrong, it's what I did earlier before this topic when I said
>>23944471
>>23957725

>>23977168
>claim
The only claim I actually ever make is that your interpretation is not the only possibility like you claim, nor even the most likely. I'm not trying to tell you what the first half of that conversation was about because neither of us know that. You're the only faggot here that is pretending to have some special insight into messages he literally hasn't seen.

>>23977304
>I only use information
You have no information about what you're talking about here and you were wrong. Your entire explanation fell apart and now you can't even answer what she was clarifying on 2nd of January.

>>23977403
You're excited about potentially being correct for the first time today(? this week maybe) but im sorry to tell you that there isn't much to that and you're still going to be wrong from past, present and future.

>>23977383
I said she was talking about mafumafu, you said she wasn't, and now you said that actually the relationship conversation was about mafumafu.
Which one is it?
>nor even the most likely
It is the most likely one as it doesn't hinge on uncertainties like everything you have come up with.

>>23977463
You haven't been correct in any of your responses to me. Why keep going? Do you enjoy being humiliated?

>>23977641
I'm the judge here. What I say about other people is the end of it, you're wrong and you will continue to be wrong.

>>23954757
are you a beer fanatic by any chance?

>>23977734
You just keep getting cringier.

>>23977825
Cringe is a you problem. What I can say is that people here are glad there's no smells on the internet because you are absolutely sweating.

>>23977905
Sweating? I don't even need to do anything because you keep destroying yourself with greats like "I enjoy pointing out people being wrong, it's my thing." after being blatantly wrong about everything.

>>23978131
Again, doesn't work on me.
You however, are cursed with never being correct.

>>23977544
>Which one is it?
You keep presuming I'm here to tell you what actually happened, but it's not necessary for me to do that for me to tell you that you don't know what happened(the thing I'm actually saying).
>It is the most likely one as it doesn't hinge on uncertainties like everything you have come up with.
Making your claims while using ANY statement that isn't her literally and explicitly saying that she intends/intended to try and pursue a relationship with him means your claims rely on uncertainty by very definition you dumb nigger
You can't simply handwave away the fact that you extrapolated your conclusion that something happened based on context, you are saying "she told korekore that she tried to get with mafumafu" but if you directly translate the sentence "I tried to get with mafumafu" into Japanese, no matter how you do it, you will never actually get a sentence that is present in those messages. 分かる?

>>23938748
What the hell is that the chars from that vn where you, a gaijinn went on a holiday with them?

>>23978245
>You keep presuming I'm here to tell you what actually happened
No I'm asking you to give a clear interpretation about what you think she meant by those messages, but all you did was say that she COULD HAVE had a separate chat about her love life, but then you looped back to effectively agreeing with what I said.
>Making your claims while using ANY statement that isn't her literally and explicitly saying that she intends/intended to try and pursue a relationship with him means your claims rely on uncertainty by very definition you dumb nigger
That's literally what she said in the new year's message. There's nothing uncertain about that. Not a single part of my interpretation relies on ifs, could haves, maybes or anything.
I read the message as it is while you are making these bullshit claims that actually she COULD BE continuing 50 different conversations in that message.

>>23978784
That's a lot of jargon that's coincidentally incorrect.
Maybe if you used less emotion, you could speak more truthfully.

>>23978784
>No I'm asking you to give a clear interpretation about what you think she meant by those messages
I keep giving you tons and tons. The parts of the conversation relevant to her love life may or may not have been related to him, or it might not have been, and it may have been from something she asked, it may have been prompted by a wrongful assumption korekore made about something she merely said, it may have been a way to cover for her asking about something to make it seem less bizarre- the point is you don't fucking know and are pretending that you do you perfidious faggot
>That's literally what she said in the new year's message.
Go ahead and translate the sentence "I tried to get together with mafumafu" into Japanese.

>>23950630
>Hey
>Hi
>Un..!
>I like your stuff, a big fan
>That's nice!
>..woah
>[silence]
>nnguh
>so I jerk off to your streams sometimes
>What?
>woah...
>Huh?
>[disconnects]
>Hnngh...

>>23979233
>I keep giving you tons and tons.
You haven't said anything meaningful so far.
>may or may not have been
>it might not have been, and it may have been
>it may have been
>it may have been
When you need this many weasel words to support all these favorable scenarios, you're just wrong.
>Go ahead and translate the sentence "I tried to get together with mafumafu" into Japanese.
Do it yourself. Why are you so fixated on this phrase? Are you now trying to claim that because she never used those words she never tried to date him? Feels like you're getting really desperate.

>>23979831
>When you need this many weasel words to support all these favorable scenarios, you're just wrong.
You can't see he was doing that on purpose?
>Why are you so fixated on this phrase?
Ironic

>>23979886
>You can't see he was doing that on purpose?
Why would he want to appear hopeless on purpose?
>Ironic
Not at all. I'm quoting something she actually wrote while this guy keep asking me to translate a completely made up phrase into Japanese like it's going to save his argument.

>>23979831
>Are you now trying to claim that because she never used those words she never tried to date him?
No, but if she didn't use those words then saying she did is an assumption on your part.
Either she explicitly stated "I did x" in that message, or you aren't operating off of what she said, you are operating off of your(note: YOUR) assumption of what her words imply about the reality of the circumstance

>>23980059
>Why would he want to appear hopeless on purpose?
He's not cursed with being wrong all the time, he doesn't need to be concerned about that nonsense.
>Not at all.
Aye, all.

>>23980059
>Why would he want to appear hopeless on purpose?
Oh for fucks sake, what is wrong with your brain, do you not have object permanence? Is that why you can't follow a conversation?

>>23980120
It's not an assumption. She first describes what happened between her and mafumafu and then says she wants to find love someday. That's literally what she wrote, not a single assumption was made.

>>23980228
When you keep proposing imaginary scenarios to protect your feelings, you look very hopeless.

>>23980422
Just pointing out, that sentence is false

>>23980699
Yeah the one I was replying to is very much false.

>>23980236
>She first describes what happened between her and mafumafu and then says she wants to find love someday.
First of all she doesn't say she "wants" to, that's another assumption of yours. Do you see the point yet?
Secondly, as much as you may wish it to be so, saying "This is what happened last year. Someday I could have a good love life.", is not equivalent to saying "This is what happened last year during my attempt at a love life. Someday I could have a good love life". You are assuming that the "during my attempt at a love life" is implied, but an assumption is an assumption and I don't understand why you cannot grasp this basic ass shit

>>23980422
>my imaginary scenario can beat up your imaginary scenario
literal child

>>23980963
>First of all she doesn't say she "wants" to
Ok she didn't say she wants, she said she will. What changed, exactly? Nothing. If anything it's even worse now for you and my "assumption" was more generous than it should have been.
>Secondly, as much as you may wish it to be so
I'm not wishing anything. It's undeniable that she is describing the situation with mafumafu and follows it up with saying she will try to get a good relationship in the future. No assumptions have been made here. You keep putting words into my mouth.
>I don't understand why you cannot grasp this basic ass shit
You're the one that can't read.

>>23980996
I haven't made up any imaginary scenarios because I don't need to. I have nothing at stake here because I don't believe that a woman who literally doesn't even know me is my wife.

>>23952149
Depended on who you were booking and when but iirc like $60 for a 30 minute block.

>>23981428
できるようにします is not quite "will" either but you should hopefully understand that its nuance is difficult to convey in English. Actually, I just realized, your inability to grasp nuance is exactly why you cannot understand why you're retarded
> It's undeniable that she is describing the situation with mafumafu and follows it up with saying she will try to get a good relationship in the future.
Yes. Notice how this undeniable description of yours did not include her stating that she pursued a relationship with mafumafu. She said one thing, and then she said another, and neither of the two things she said could in any way directly translate to her saying that she tried to pursue a relationship with mafumafu
I'm done looping, she just liked a tweet which means she's awake and I have more important things to do(like tweet at her) then spend my time trying to explain to a literal room temp IQ retard that a perception of an implication is an assumption no matter how strong you think the implication is.

>>23982092
>Actually, I just realized, your inability to grasp nuance is exactly why you cannot understand why you're retarded
Ok big brain, how does the nuance mean that actually she is currently deeply in love with you and isn't looking for love in the future? It doesn't.
>She said one thing, and then she said another
They're part of the same message. You're making huge assumption by claiming that they're most definitely separate.
>neither of the two things she said could in any way directly translate to her saying that she tried to pursue a relationship with mafumafu
She's upset about not being able to go out to eat with him anymore because she fucked up. Why does she want to go out to eat with him so badly? Why is she talking to korekore about this?
What is the message about her love life doing there right after that message?
You got "cucked", it's as simple as that.

>>23938634
wow, time to never watch any of those retards
like swine at a trough, I hope they enjoy making $2k/month max off gachikoi while smarter bitches rake in ten times that

>gfe vtuber bad
who could be behind this post?
>seething 2view
>m*le
>tranny
>vtweeter
Make your pick

>>23938375
Well how are you supposed to show gratitude to your whales then?
Also what happened to that orca guy?

>>23987560
He's still with his oshi. He was donating to Chloe too, not sure if he still does.

>>23978439
yes, that's them

>>23987777
some people never learn

>>23938748
I think this would make people very aware of how parasocial their relationship with vtuber are.

>>23959432
People think that about a lot of the hololive girls but there’s a few that have favorite fans who they allow to DM then on personal accounts or discord

>>23988440
ROFL
how the fuck is THIS the one you call parasocial, when you and the vtuber are ACTUALLY talking directly to each other?

>>23967840
Reina

>>23965025
So why is it that cyberlive isn't successful? Could it be that charging for 1-on-1 time upfront is actually a turn off?

>>23944161
>Hololive girls are all clothed and have no "nude" live2d base.
He doesn't know

>>23991974
Obviously. Hell, any GFE chuuba that "starts" as GFE is off-putting, at least if it's thick. People want GFE that feels like what top GFE tubers do, namely the kind that genuinely feels as if it developed for real reasons.
Basically, guys don't want to pay to be loved, guys want to pay those who love them. Paying for it is cringey. Rewarding it is based and what a man feels an instinctive desire to do. Nobody actually pays for the "experience" while fully convinced that the love is fake, that's retarded.

>>23991974
Japanese people can go to hostess clubs to pay for parasocial experiences. A 2D shortened version of it would probably feel like shit in comparison.

>>23959945
Youtube videos are sometimes in webm format, also gfycat iirc.

>>23974734
Dude stop replying to trolls, holy shit.

>>23977819
I've got my money on>>23977825

>>23992164
>Nobody actually pays for the "experience" while fully convinced that the love is fake, that's retarded.
You wouldn't get it

>>23938478
Well, it seems those personalized messages had a measurable return of investment.
It's kinda scummy, but the whales that were stupid enough to fall for it deserved it.

>>23963821
You pay extra for the brand name.

>>23938375
> People still believe this
It's already debunked
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LQpMWBUS-Ek

hey your girlfriend cheating on you with some rich dude is a part of the GFE too

>>23939056
Simps are retarded
Like it's a literal mental illness that needs attention from authorities and legislators
Unironically call your congressman

>>23944161
Didnt HoloEN saw gura naked or something?

>>23996896
that was an irl cam meeting.

>>23995772
for those who can't understand Japanese, the point is:
- the dude claims that his message got deleted by Rushia but the messages in his message tray cannot be deleted by anyone

- more importantly, this message was from the 1 year anniversary event where a random follower would get a video message from Rushia.

>>23938634
The funniest part is the pictured girl on the right was the one who made the other two put the rewards in their descriptions.

>>23938634
Hmm cringe but I do like the idea of spending 400 bucks to get some ethot to watch the full cut of das boot

>>23996968
No it wasn't, that doesn't make sense.
You've said that twice now, show a clip.

>>23998604
I looked it up myself. First time it was mentioned was by Ame.
"She loaded in and had no clothes" Im assuming we're not living in the matrix right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWhFt0NFxI
Regardless, I have this feeling that it's all bullshit.

>>23938601
I smell roastie all over this post

>>23938748
The call is supervisioned by Eina, one of their staff, so worst case scenario you will say something weird and the call will be cut short.

>>23996633
Kek

>>23938634
would one of them watch "a serbian film" with me?

Hi amaris, I know you're here.
You should sing 'whatever it takes' next singstream because it would sound good with ur voice

>>23954094
>webm
Oh god she's here.
one can only imagine the sick twisted things she watches and saves from this godforsaken site.
Pretty hot desu, never would have expected fauna to be one of us.
fauna if you're reading this, I love you and please take off the earrings sometimes. I think you'd look great without

>>24002005
Why are there so many chuubas /here/? It doesn't seem worth the risk to be associated with this place in any capacity.

>>24002005
4chan might be the reason she's so scared of her fans and doing any form of parasocial.

>>23959004
oh man it's so cringe
a simple "sorry, it was just meant to be a joke, i'll take it down" would have sufficed.
Or you know be a gigachad and say no etc

>>24002102
Good. Fuck parasocial shit.
>simps buying fucking discord calls and shit like prostitution with no sex
>She loves me! I just spend 1000 dollars on her every month!

>>24002259
You think it doesn't prevent it to happen ? She's been called the GFE of HoloEN for a long while now and yet she still get nightmares about her community anyway.

>>24002392
You think that prevents it*
My hamster brain went away for a sec.

>>24002086
I said this the other day but there is a VAST amount of content creators or even celebrities that lurk here, obviously it's a minority but it's a lot more than you'd think.
Especially people raised on the internet like we were. If internet culture was important to them growing up, they've probably at least been here. And it's not nearly as secret as it used to be. and way way moreso after 2016 etc
You can often find e celebs talking about how they used to come here regularly but they "changed" or grew up and moved on etc
jp celebs/ecelebs are more likely to use 2chan tho not like thats a big difference

They can do shit here anonymously, get attention, talk about shit without worrying about their persona or reputation or be degenerates etc
Hell. I bet a few vtubers have posted nudes here in some degree, like on /b/ threads for our attention and for us to say how much we're attracted to them and jerk off etc
Women love that shit. As long as there's no repercussions or consequences anyway.

>>24002392
I dont know if it does or doesn't happen. I wont say anything until I know for certain with proof etc, but I will say that I hate parasocial shit. And I don't like deception either. Tricking some loser into parting with his wallet because he thinks you have some sort of connection, (doesnt need to be romantic) doesn't vibe well with me

>>24002470
It's also directly related to how well they're doing with instant unfiltered feedbacks unlike dictatorship tweeter and hugbox discord.
>>24002554
>I dont know if it does or doesn't happen. I wont say anything until I know for certain with proof etc
I legit stopped watching her because she mentioned having a dream during a jump king stream where she takes a plane to the underworld and is forced to perform for the residents, saying it was "so spooky", you can also tell she's stressed af when she puts mic for heartbeat during ASMR.
I don't like making women fearful and uncomfy.

>>23958732
Anon, dont make me be a saviorfag...please... I cant do it anymore

How much do you think I need to akasupa Fauna to get some JOI ASMR from her?

>>24002673
Only 2views should be saviorfagged.

>>24002673
You can't save people. They must save themselves.
>>24002632
Indeed people are more likely to be true to themselves or their desires anonymously even if it's just with shitposting
and they wont have the fear of being banned for wrongthink.

>>24002790
You know what they say, curiosity killed the cat, and once you start coming here often it hardly stops.

I am fairly certain gura occasionally looks at these threads or just in general here.
And that makes me wonder. Do you think she's seen the greentext about her cousin jerking off to her and then realizing it's actually his cousin.
And then how does she feel about it?
If he's ugly irl she's probably disgusted but if he's decent looking I wonder if she feels any differently

>>24003007
Isn't she way older IRL ? She can just chalk it up to being a character and not her.

>>24003007
First of all - considering her background, yes, she lurks here, or at least used to lurk here.
Second of all - she wrote the cousin pasta herself.

>>24003166
>Second of all - she wrote the cousin pasta herself.
Damn if real she's one hell of a based girl, sharing her fanfics on 4chan.

>>24003085
Idk about way older, i believe they were similar ages, gura maybe possibly a few years older
>>24003166
would be pretty funny
would also be funny if you were actually gura irl but you are not, very unfortunate

>>24003222
And worst of all, she could be any one of us. She could be in this very thread! She could be you! She could be me!

>>23975122
>>23975339

あけましておめでとうございます!
Happy New Year!

去年忙しすぎてご連絡出来なかったのですが、前にご飯行った方に12月になる前に私が詮索しすぎてご飯とかもう行けないと言われてしまいました
ショックすぎて連絡が遅れてしまってすみません
いつか良い恋愛ができるようにします。。。ご報告でした。。。
Last year I was too busy so I could not contact you, I was told by the person I had dinner with before that I was prying too much and we would not be able to go out together again until december ... I was schocked, I am so sorry for contacting you so late ...
Someday I will try to have a good relationship... Thank you for your time

あけましておめでとう
Happy new year
そうなんだ 了解
Is that so, understood

今年もよろしくお願いします
I am counting with you again this year
めんへらをなおしたいです。。。
I want to heal my mental health issues...

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Thought I would share a slightly better translation, at least I think it is.

>>24003299
>Idk about way older
I was talking about her character vs real age.
>>24003302
It's honestly nice being this close to the entertainers and being able to joke with them even with the anonymity, a shame that some threads are just a bunch of SEX RAPE and hate.

>>24003393
Some typos here and there looking at it again, it is "I was so shocked" and "counting on you". Complementing what it looks like to me, is that maybe she was pushing "that person" too hard and she got told to back off a bit. It heavily implies that while they were not in a relationship she pursued it for a bit and got rejected and that hit right on her already mental unstable persona.

>>24003991
>It heavily implies that while they were not in a relationship she pursued it for a bit
Noooooo you're assuming things that's not what it says at all!!!!!

>>24004055
It is a fair reasonable assumption with that kind of message. All I am saying.

>>24004120
It's not reasonable at all.

While morally questionable I do like having the option to pay and DM or have a movie night with an Idol I support but it doesn't mean I'd dox her or want to meet her IRL tho, to me they're just like enhanced waifus, it's just that different people have different needs, some more extreme than others and it's pretty much up to the tubers and watchers to find a boundary they're comfortable with and respect it.
Having someone give you some soul healing is worth way more than a few cumies, hell, that's what psy are supposed to be paid for.

>>24004256
>Go have a dinner with a guy a few times
>Start pushing/asking for too much
>Guy gives you excuses saying we cannot meet anymore until december
>Things looked like they were going well, you are shocked!
>Sound defeated, maybe even moved on already, saying you will try to have an actual good relationship in the future (and yes even though it translates like that 恋愛 IS about a romantic relationship not just a normal one)

Anon...