/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

i hate not having time to support aspies and watch streams because i'm having normal everyday life

>>23910823
just abandon your normal everyday life and become a basement gremlin dumbass

>>23910933
i literally can't
God, i hate being forced into being a normie

>>23907338
I say "alright then, bye" which is my mother's greeting when she ends a phone call. It rubbed off on me, even though it's not any type of "kayfabe" greeting.

>finally worked up the courage to make a twitter profile
so, how do you guys usually do your social media reps?

>>23911205
Shamelessly.

>>23911205
schedule, memes, comments on other chuuba posts, stay out of drama, mute anyone who looks like a minor

>>23911205
Literally shitposting until I die. Also like aspie tweets because lord knows they need it.

>>23911205
Lynx yourself mysterychuuba

Repeating my question from the previous thread. Did anyone apply to Wactor?

>>23911346
I am tempted to. Just to see how far I fly.

>>23911346
I need to actually make things to link on the application, but I will.

>>23911205
post what im going to be doin for the channel (expected uploads, updates, when I wont be streaming.) I try to keep it simple so I can put energy towards something else

so many cuties here
Is there a way to "search" the archives and "get" you all? (twitch names I mean)

>>23911341
https://twitter.com/j00niperheartz
i can't guarantee that the quality of my posts will be consistently good but you can check it out if you want to

>>23911487
warosu.org and take your time

Approaching a new week! Whatchu got planned?

>love singing and drawing
>put everything I had into my application to cover
>didn’t even get to the first phase
How do I cope? I knew I wasn’t gonna get in but I at least wanted an interview so I could eventually get feed back. Why am I never good enough?

>>23911615
uploading a minecraft highlights to youtube and tiktok, and making another powerpoint presentation

>>23911487
nope. you can use the archives, but theres no list of everyone. someone does sort of maybe have a list, but it's only "new to 4chan and only discussed in asp"

whats a moment you were proud of during stream people

have a good day myu

>>23911632
try again in 3 months. don't give up.

>>23911632
>get feedback

From who?

>>23911632
I applied too and when I look back at the video I sent it was so dogshit. only thing you can do is move forward and just improve for next time

>>23911487
>>23109717
In case you don't have 4chanx installed.

New vtubers spotted on /asp/
Female:
https://www.twitch.tv/gozimai
https://www.twitch.tv/mashimyu_ch
https://www.twitch.tv/missfushi
https://www.twitch.tv/hanadarin
https://twitter.com/necrodeer
https://www.twitch.tv/lunellavt
https://www.twitch.tv/mirukumaa
https://www.twitch.tv/miomikki
https://twitter.com/MIYOTISCHERUBlM
https://twitter.com/AinGStalt
https://www.twitch.tv/heykayabun
https://www.twitch.tv/itadakinani
https://www.twitch.tv/Lullabaa
Comfy-chan
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWMroTaNPPSgJSS0ReRJNw

non /asp/ but new to /vt/
https://twitch.tv/laranbonnie
https://www.twitch.tv/vebyvt
Mizuchi https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-RcLKGwpQJAxaV0_BT_h9w

Males:
https://www.twitch.tv/atenhevelius
Emil
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDlaKxbOxEj7GMKrTJCw4OQ
Shosan
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE8H_e_951zHWciykV1N8wQ
https://www.twitch.tv/coyote_knight
https://twitter.com/Hasmekiel
https://twitter.com/MinimoTTV
https://twitter.com/alto_tiro
https://www.twitch.tv/marbuccino
https://www.twitch.tv/gladiatortemporalis
https://www.twitch.tv/ricecakevs
https://twitter.com/ZUNLIVER
https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat
https://twitter.com/KY_Draws

Babiniku:
https://twitter.com/Ainslie_Vt
https://www.twitch.tv/yukichireikyu
https://www.twitch.tv/moliminoustheater
https://www.twitch.tv/cordy_ch
https://twitter.com/DoctorKonrad
https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

>>23911771
I will destroy that little thing, it will be gone forever

>been vtubing 4-5 months
>under 100 twitch followers
>under 100 twitter followers
>4.5 average viewers
>earned about $50

I feel like I'm doing something wrong but not sure what, gonna take this weekend to focus on social media reps

>>23911632
They want high numbers, 100k+ subs on youtube or twitch. And to be able to go watch you stream. And ideally see you streams after your submission.

>>23912015
no one knows who you are. do your market reps.

>>23912015
if you wont even drop your links here it's probably shit marketing

>>23912015
branch out on different social media platforms to get wider coverage and if you want, try to get to know people in the community. how you do that idk thats something someone else can answer

>>23912015
The vast majority of Twitch is supported by small streamers that aren't going to be able to make a career out of it. You're doing pretty good.

http://poal.me/sxk2z8
Reupping from last thread

Tfw no retarded chuuba gf to fuck onstream

>omg guys i never grow for some weird reason
>never posts links for some reason
>only streams day to day to the void

>>23911205
There's a guy who reviewed Azu and Alto's Twitter profiles, dig on the archives, even if it's specific criticism the posts contain some useful info

>>23912542
>never posts links
this is smart. don't listen to viewerfaggots when they try to get you to out yourself. posting on 4chan isn't marketing, it's not networking and it won't help you grow. you'll get two or three off handed shit comments and then be ignored.

>>23912599
debatable, depends on how much effort you put into your streams, if you are male or female and how new you are
it's better to at least post here than literally no marketing at all

>>23912677
>debatable, depends on how much effort you put into your streams
if you don't put any effort viewers and aspies alike with mock you
if you put in lots of effort they'll say you're good and "go do your network reps" as if that helps
>it's better to at least post here than literally no marketing at all
it's better to tweet your links to the twitter void than /here/.

>>23911935
prof bloom really has graduated from /vt/

>>23912796
viewers won't mock you because you won't get any, viewers never criticize specially at the start, you just get random hellos and then they leave
and i have seen good criticism and tips here
tweeting into the void won't get you at least 1 viewer for like 10 mins, and if someone from here watches you they at least will be honest

>>23912853
nah this is just the list of 2022 aspies. doesn't include any from 2021.

>>23912853
they still get posted on wvt and talk to people there, they just graduated /here/, which is a good thing

>>23911677
i ate cake with cheese on stream. also sang a broadway song on stream.

>>23912853
i could compile a list of the 2021 /asp/ies but for the most part they seem separate from the new gen

>>23912148
>>23912542
why would I post links here when everyone here is also an aspie? disregarding the fact that a female potentially doxxing herself on the internet is never a good idea, I thought /asp/ agreed that your viewers shouldn't be other vtubers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE0P7b-0T2A&t=112s

bout a week old but still what should I do better with vid. (this was before I got my png thing setup

I do know that my thumbnails are ass and I can do better there

>>23913125
why wouldn't you want friends at least?

>>23913125
Just good to post here if you want criticism since getting peoples opinions on shit is useful af but other than that I dont see the point

>>23911632
>Why am I never good enough
do you have anything to show for how good you are? people want results nowadays, they dont want potential

>>23913125
>thinks posting socials or twitch links means doxxing herself
ngmi

>>23913187
I do have friends, I'm part of a vtuber group and occasionally collab with other vtubers. My bad for posting in the first place I guess, I was mostly just anonymously complaining into the void here because I don't want to edit clips right now

>>23913149
You're just straight up boring, sorry.

You over explain, and talk too much, which is a surprising thing to do.

>>23913276
Nothing wrong with that, but people usually post here for stream feedback or advice.

>>23913243
it's because my vtubing community is linked to my previous identity in the local community and it's impossible to opsec because many too many local vtubers know each other

>>23913276
no worries, it's just that most people here don't actually have anything at all for feedback which is why they would post themselves here
also we are mostly all lonely, at least the ones that waste a bunch of time on 4chan

>>23913149
You have an okay voice. But your commentary boils down to complaining about the things you see.

>>23910700
AnonChama, I got a fanart, but I am retarded and after reconnecting my modem a couple of times I a still unable to post it here. So I will put a link if anyone wants to see it.
https://twitter.com/Wolff_Steel/status/1523421531010830338

>>23913149
Maybe your issue is you talk to much but dont have anything to talk about

>>23913149
i dont think long form videos like that will do well starting out. do you watch sun kenji? your voice and vibe is a bit similar to him except he has spastic meme editing to boost the entertainment value of the video which you might need since thats what gets people to watch pre recorded gameplay content nowadays

your commentary style is fine in my opinion but i personally hate these weird shitty looking horror games

is wactor a good corpo to try and join...? i'm very on the fence and unsure about whether or not to apply, but i do speak spanish and another asian language so i thought that maybe i'd have a bit of an advantage at least linguistically? this might be my cope brain talking though...

idk what they do for their talents or anything they stand for at all either TT

>>23913882
I don't watch the talents much since I don't understand Spanish but it seems like the girls are given some support. The only thing is WACTOR, or at least the head/ CEO, seems very yab / black company oriented.
Multiple instances of doxxing / showing IRL information of girls who left / graduated, restrictive and or limited support, and some other shit that's gone around.
Not sure if they'll treat perspective male applicants better but honestly you miss the shots you don't take! If you get an interview and the contract is giving you red flags don't go with it, simple as.

>>23913707
Hiroshima seems to hate Uruguay, lately i've been able to post pictures but when i wasn't allowed to do so, a workaround was posting with mobile data

>>23913548
yea its hard to do commentary especially since with this game I didnt want to go off from the actual game itself and talk about some story of mine since it does make the editing harder

>>23913794
Ill try to mix it up then to see if I can get that hit it right but I dont think ill entirely change it to that spastic style since I dont entirely feel comfortable with that style

Is there a way to easier find a decent vtuber artist in twitter.
It's filled with...well, not good artist there.

>>23914244
browse vtuber.gg instead

I know the common advice is to stick to similar games while you're starting out to get an audience willing to stick around if you move to a variety of games. Does that advice hold true even with niche or debuff games?

>>23914244
Check the twitter bios of vtubers that have models you like

>>23914390
choose whatever the fuck you want, just be entertaining

>>23914390
If you're marketing well and shilling yourself in those niche communities then yes. An indie chuuba I follow got a boost from shilling in a retro game discord

>>23914019
you're right! for some reason it skipped over my mind that i could decline it in the end if i wasn't a fan of the terms. i just applied, hoping for the best! i'm honestly kind of anxious since i know there's not a ton of good things associated with wactor right now, but i think if i'm able to put my best foot forward, it'd be a good way for me to build a portfolio.

though, if i declined in the end... would that negatively impact my current standing? would i be blacklisted from everything? maybe i should have thought it out more... uh oh

>>23913149
Your thumbnail for this video is actually fine (look for "Iron Lung is terrifying" on YT and the thumbnail is similarly simple and striking). Your title is what needs work: instead of what you have, try something that generates some curiosity, like "This game has no right to be this horrifying", with the game's title on the thumbnail, or keep the thumbnail as is, and think up of something else.
In truth, it's only expected that you won't get much traffic with a long form playthrough like this. Better would be to talk about the game after playing, like doing a review, and putting segments of your gameplay commentary to illustrate whatever point you'll be talking about.
I can't listen to the video right now, but other anons gave some suggestions there.
There's also the fact that YT content takes a while to incline, I took a few months uploading in a very narrow niche to get around 5k views on my videos, but I deviate from that niche just a tiny bit, and boom, 200 views tops. So just hang in there

>>23914300
Already checked, actually that site doesn't have as many as artist I thought.
>>23914458
Guess I need to check all of them one by one then.

/adp/BROS, I THINK I'M GMI...

>>23914737
Good for you anon! Hope you get an interview! And no, it shouldn't show any bad blood by declining as long as you are professional. You are applying basically for an entertainer position, so just be sure to be somewhat professional about it since the company SHOULD be showing professionalism back after all!
Stuff like "I'm sorry, these terms and conditions don't fit my scope of what I want for a contract, so I'll have to decline at this time" or "Is there any way we can discuss x y and z on this further?" shows not only being interested, but also not letting them walk all over you.
If you decline but still want them in your field of view just say that you would want to keep in contact for future talks or something, whether it be maybe future waves, re-discussion of contract or etc.

>>23915014
>eating panda express
ngmi

>>23911935
hii mio here!
pls remove me from the list 6(´ ` ")

>>23915014
/asp/*
FUCK
>>23915060
It's mostly shit, but their candy chicken mogs every other "Chinese" place.

>>23914830
Thx Ill work on the titles in the future since I havent really payed proper attention to it.

while I do love those types review videos when its done well its something im not aiming for since Ive liked watching gameplay videos and I want to do those videos well (Ill probably cut my videos into smaller parts though since everyone thinks its too long even my friends told me that lol.)

>>23911935
ah!! if it's okay, please remove me as well! it is zun here! i'm sorry about the trouble!

>>23915675
Why do you want removed if you still post here bro...

>>23915741
nta but i wouldn't want to make my connection to 4chan even more obvious than it already is

>>23916385
why does everyone not like involving themselves with the 4chan?

>>23916424
>racism
>transphobia
>nazis and alt right morons
>conservatives
gee i don't know

>>23916467
isnt that like every social media platform tho?

>>23916541
>whataboutism
that's not an argument

>>23916424
Because some anons wanted to make a point out of how edgy they are. Now being associated with 4chan is bad marketing.

>>23916595
if your gonna distance yourself from the whole of 4chan for these things shouldnt you do the same for other social media platforms? since they in turn also have these bad things?

>>23916424
Normies and twitter kids immediately only recognize the bad and the extreme image it gives from the front, especially with the edge some boards and anons give (any time some post is shown on twitter by a bigger vtuber it's from some /trash/ schizo for instance). It's overall still considered bad publicity. At best you'd want to slightly give a wiggle you know some of the culture of a board rather than say you actively participate or are known from 4chan.

>>23916612
And you invite 4chan schizos and anti-4chan schizos to make trouble for you.

>>23916689
>if your gonna distance yourself from the whole of 4chan for these things
yes
>shouldnt you do the same for other social media platforms?
no

>>23916689
Are you being disingenuous on purpose? The opinion of 4chan to the average internet retard is much lower than that of Twitter, Facebook, or literally any other social media.

>>23916424
This dude gets called a tranny or some other shit every time he gets brought up ITT I wouldnt want to be on the list either if I were him

I don't think dropping your links would do any harm, but not necessarily help at all either.
At best it gets more people knowing who you are, which is better than none.
Lots of people self-post on here and doesn't get in trouble for it.
Nobody cares enough to look up old archived threads to find out if an inclining VTuber posted on 4chan once upon a time.
If Nyanners got away with it, so can you.
All of this is autism.
I'd say the only place you genuinely don't want to be associated with would be KiwiFarms.

>>23916810
maybe he should stop being a tranny then

>>23916424
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER KIKE WOP SPIC FAGGOT NIGGER

>>23916852
the problem isn't just posting, it's being associated with 4chan. finding out that you're 100% okay with people dropping slurs, nazi dogwhistles and alt right talking points isn't a good look if you want to break more than 30 viewers over the course of a year.

>>23916467
>4chan is not a woke echo chamber and platform to spout left wing propaganda
oh the horror

Annnnnnnnd the derailing has started, like clockwork.

I'll see you guys next thread.

>>23916927
Who the fuck says wop in 2022?

>tfw struggling to get 100 subs
>a few mofos unsub these past few days because of my inactivity
Granted I don’t have a niche yet and I don’t do marketing reps but fuck you, why even sub in the first place if you’re just gonna unsub

>>23916942
this kind of /pol/ shit is why chuubas don't want to be associated here. viewerfaggots are so quick to defend the honor of a website where they can drop a slur without getting banned.

>>23916689
Not even remotely the same. We all understand that there are only a few schizos, some people trying to be funny or edgy, but the rest are normal. Normies on the other hand see 4chan as a unified community as represented by the worst of /pol/, /b/, and /v/. Other platforms are toxic but keep the appearance of being neutral platforms. You might also encourage some dense people to use """gamer words""" in your chat or text to speech donations just because they think you're like them, making the same kind of assumption about communities as normies do. In another timeline it wouldn't be so bad and 4channers could keep their power level in check, but in this timeline it's a needless cause of potential trouble.

>>23916980
Who you? I'll sub!

>>23916795
yea I know what everyone thinks of this shithole since whenever I talk about funny encounters in here with friends their thought is that 4chan hates everyone but its just that if your already in here you already know what this place is like and I dont see how associating yourself here will call for a cancelation unless you have already said fucked up shit. Tho I dont think you should be yelling that your a 4channer cuz thats ew

>>23916991
how come vtubers like Pipkin Pippa can have /here/ communities that control their power level while also being based as fuck (not /pol/tard level, obviously)?

Forgot to link here, i'm playing Darkest Dungeon
https://twitch.tv/alto_tiro

>>23917063
>how come vtubers like Pipkin Pippa can have /here/ communities that control their power level while also being based as fuck
you faggots keep bringing up Pippa but conveniently ignore that even she avoid branding herself as a 4chan chuuba. yes her content is 4chan adjacent and has viewers from /here/ but she's not openly selfposting and showing off the clover on all her social media.

>>23916991
>You might also encourage some dense people to use """gamer words""" in your chat or text to speech donations
This isn't even a thing any more, it hasn't been for years. Every single service auto-censors these and typically have auto-mod on for chat by default. You have to actively allow people to spam slurs in your chat for the most part.

Realistically there is zero chance anything actually impactful happens from being associated with this place but the perception this place has with MOST of the internet it's understandable why people err on the side of caution even if it's ultimately pointless.

>>23916942
Nobody likes that in the real world beyond the 4chan larping, you're going to be in the severe minority. In that case you should focus on it like the alt-right content creators do, reacting to all the outrage at some comic book character being gay or some shit.

If you don't want to focus on the kind of content then maybe it's better to manage impressions so people wont associate you with it. Regardless of if you are left, right, or not even involved in American politics.

>>23917106
I mean, part of being a /here/ vtuber is flirting with the idea of containment. People advertising how /here/ they are...well, they are just doing it wrong.

>>23917008
Thanks but sorry, I’m not chuuba yet. I’ll shill myself here when the time comes.

>>23917016
>I dont see how associating yourself here will call for a cancelation unless you have already said fucked up shit
It definitely won't, that's just people being paranoid.

>>23917063
Pippa? As in the Vtuber that's been constantly stalkedand harassed by schizos who also chose to target her genmates and has retards spread over to them as well? Nah, I'm sure she's totally fine.

>>23917063
Why even argue the point? It's not about someone else, it's about whether you want to deal with it or not. Simple as that.

>>23916982
>defend the honor of a website where they can drop a slur without getting banned
But that is in fact honorable. Also how is pointing out that other platforms are infested with left wing brainrot /pol/ shit? Do you not see the bullshit trick you are playing along with?

>hey do autistic level opsec
>avoid all drama and potential drama
>but don't distance your brand from "internet hate machine(tm)"
uhhhh.... hmmmmm

>>23917321
>But that is in fact honorable.
honor means nothing when 4chan is radioactive to associate with and the 70 unique IPs on 4chan won't even gift a single sub to your channel. chuubas could be doing real market reps on twitter instead of pandering to incels who watch in incognito mode because they're afraid of the government spying on them or some shit.

>>23917327
>advice is given by one person

>>23917063
I'm sure at times even Pippa regrets things considering what her schizos have done to target her, her friends, and her genmates. Not everyone wants to or even can deal with that level of harassment and e-stalking.

>>23917321
See you have a weird agenda. Not that anon but I'm not even American. I would prefer being left out of your psycho culture wars.

>anon simply asks to be left out of a list
>the most autistic argument spirals

the absolute state of /asp/

>>23917223
>Pippa? As in the Vtuber that's been constantly stalkedand harassed by schizos who also chose to target her genmates and has retards spread over to them as well? Nah, I'm sure she's totally fine.
This only happened in your head. She herself has said is fine. Also the dox was the fault of the kiwis.
>>23917236
Yeah, this is a reasonable take.
>>23917365
Die sterile and soulless then.
>>23917379
Again, kiwis.
>>23917382
Weird agenda? Not bending the knee to psychotic ideological nonsense is having an agenda? Do you not see how that is essentially like saying that if you are not X you are (bad) Y?

>>23917461
and viewers wonder why chuubas don't want to associate with this place

>>23917501
>senseless pearl clutching

>>23916973
(merited) racism against italians is becoming fashionable again, you can only say "pasta mongrel" so many times before it gets boring.

>>23917498
>sterile and soulless
this is why no one likes you viewers. you're the most entitled group of shitbags on all of 4chan and you think replying to a chuuba dramapost saying BASED is the equivalent of jesus himself coming down and giving chuubas a blowjob. you retards think one or two anons typing SOVL once or twice is going to help bring in success.

>>23917498
All I see is bla bla bla bla. Not my problem and I'm not keen on making it my problem.

>>23917561
What are you hallucinating I feel entitled to? Are you able to engage with what is in front of you without projecting your silly charicatures on anons?

>>23917610
>no argument
>better start insulting him with buzzwords
thanks i'll take the W

https://files.catbox.moe/n6lwlq.mp4
if someone like krimbo can hang around sjw circles while showing the wvt trash thread i'm sure anyone here would get away with having their links in a list
i do get not wanting to be on a straight up list though but there's even the whole /wvt/ tiermaker with chuubas of all sizes on it

>>23917461
Oh boy, pay attention anons.

You don't want to get left out of this autism, put yourself on the list and you too can deal with this. Think of everything you would be missing out on. This autistic spiral is the perfect advertisement.

>>23917645
>thinks he made an argument
>he just threw two (2) shitty insult
>HURR I WIN
Also I have used exactly 0 buzzwords on the post you just answered to, proving my point of you being unable to engage with what is very literally in front of you.

>>23917461
I just jokingly asked him why, I think it's obvious why someone who's genuinely inclining would wanna be left out of that list but wanted to hear his take on it.

>>23917688
>if someone like krimbo can hang around sjw circles while showing the wvt trash thread
>accidentally displaying a 4chan tab on streaming
>trying to spin it as if kongou goes around parading 4chan proudly and openly tripposting as himself

>>23917688
If someone wants to stream and browse 4chan that's their prerogative. Probably nobody asked to be placed on a list reposted in every thread.

>>23917106
hell, there are other phase connect members that are more present on this website.

>>23917688
>shows 4chan for 1.5 seconds
SUCH a channer bro, he's got those SJWs fooled!

>>23917941
>>23917772
its less that he's parading it and more that it basically confirmed that he's /here/ and also that he selfposts which i would imagine would be a stronger connection to 4chan than being on a list would be

>>23918041
>basically confirmed that he's /here/
every anon is /here/ to some degree. that does not mean it's in any chuuba's best interest to be open about it. in the same way all of your doxx information is already out there on the internet but you don't need to make it anymore obvious or easy to find.

>>23917746
I was about to be a crab since the last time I saw him he was at a solid 5ccv but holy shit he's really done it

Retard here, what differentiates between someone being /asp/ and someone being /wvt/? The one they selfpost in first? Viewership numbers?

>>23911935
Forgotten, again…

>>23911935
add the frog guy too

>>23918232
the one they selfpost in first

>>23918041
Basically this >>23918138 most people have trouble confirming that any of my accounts are real. They are but most only have minimal info and aren't related to other accounts. It's not too hard but it avoids stalkers which was a problem for me 6-10 years ago. Wish it was different but it isn't, I didn't post any directly identifiable info here myself, but I get why some might have second thoughts.

>>23917498
You don't get cancelled for posting on twitter or reddit as they're accepted as normalfag sites. I don't think posting on 4chan isn't that big of a deal, specially when all assblasted people could ever find is you posting on /asp/, one of the most harmless threads in a board which is also one of the tame boards on the site. I'd say the impact of anyone bringing this shit up would depend on your audience and how much they know you, nobody is going to be abandoned by their viewers because they posted once or twice asking for feedback on /asp/.

>>23917688
I have a vtuber friend who hangs out in the most SJW of vtuber circles for clout and they regularly try to cancel each other and all it takes is a cursory search through the archives to see them selfposting on /vt/ for a year now but none of them are doing it because they dont know how to use 4chan and just use twitter for everything.

>>23919078
>they regularly try to cancel each other
why do viewers make shit up like this?

>>23919117
SJW vtuber circles are insane, they cancel each other over using the wrong pronouns or liking a loli picture. They're way too busy fighting each other over every slight.

>>23919117
I am so happy for you that you don't have a twitter, crabnigger.

>he's doubling down on his made up fantasies

>>23919078
>they regularly try to cancel each other and all it takes is a cursory search through the archives to see them selfposting on /vt/
what sjw vtubers are even /here/ aside from like, krimbo

>>23919117
Kyuotto, the most infamous case, was actually in one of those circles.

>>23919271
>they regularly try to cancel each other
>only example is kyutto

>>23919178
This is kinda true but not as bad as you present it and it rarely amounts to full cancellation. Also different groups are formed within those circles too.

>>23919310
Yeah bro lets just go naming random attention whore litterally who's of which a dozen show up every day. Two indies have started shit over loli just this week. Before that there was grooming drama. Before that there was artist feefees drama. If you want to keep up with it, there's an account dedicated just to showcasing western vtubers doing stupid shit. It has at least 3 flurries of activity per week.

>>23919499
>an account dedicated just to showcasing western vtubers doing stupid shit.
link that bad boy

>>23919542
https://twitter.com/VTuberCringe?t=0w0hKPkr_Q_rtatwAA0fEw&s=09
Prepare to get spammed with a lot of shitflinging though.

Ain Love!

i have a little something planned for today, let's hope i don't mess it up. live now:
https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

>>23919728
the only cringe that vtubecringe account posts is his own. none of the things he posts are about vtubers and it's all just him getting defense when people say bad things about lolis.

>>23917746
sorry for replying so late, i didn't want to step in the middle of what was going on earlier and i'm sorry if what i asked sparked any unrest

it's just personal preference to not be included in the list, and so if my request to be removed could be honored i would be very grateful for it! i'm again really sorry ;;

>>23919898
As someone who made the list i'm sorry I posted it here, I just wanted to keep track of people and I dont want the list to be posted regularly in the threads either.

>>23919784
Ain is actually such a good streamer. I never thought I could sit through an aspie stream for 5 hours plus and be entertained all the way. Kino.

>>23918304
links?

>>23919787
Wilhelm II monday?

I like how everyone ignored Mio asking to be removed lol

Ain G Stalt is cute.

>>23920264
>>23920006
so true!

I want to do something different and fun for a stream on Tuesday
But I don't really have a consistent audience other than maybe a single /asp/ie or two and my stats are just telling me that viewers in common like
>Just Chatting - 61%
>ASMR - 21%
>Art - 15%
>Music - 2%
>VALORANT - 1%
>Other - <1%
...I will be total and complete utter shit at Valorant if I tried lmao

>>23919803
There's a lot of other content he posts but it does get drowned out by the loli shit.

>>23919784
she's cute i want her to throw me off a bridge

>>23919784
>>23920006
>>23920264
>>23920433
>>23920895
Thank you all so much, its hard to express through text but I want to make it clear how much this means to me. I never thought I'd get as much support as I'm getting now, and in such a short time too. I'll try my best to entertain you guys, I really value your support. Today was a really fun stream, and I'm glad I got to hang out and chat with you guys.
Also I don't want anything bad to happen to you guys but if you really desire me throwing you off a bridge, I suppose it can't be helped.

>>23920473
yeah dont play games you dont enjoy, just try to do things you have fun doing is the best advice I can give.

>>23920966
Is this THE Ain G Stalt, vtuber who lost to Cordy in master duel on stream?

>>23921068
Don't rub salt in the wound... Please, I beg.

>>23921115
sometimes it just happens
this is how i'll remember you

>>23918304
Hey, not my fault the original anon who made that list left you out.

I really should look into the minecraft server thing, huh…

>>23920966
I always wanted to ask, what does the G stand for?

>>23921350
Gamer

>>23921372

http://poal.me/507txb
http://poal.me/507txb
http://poal.me/507txb

how is the word viewerfaggots real

What was that software/site for removing vocals from songs? There are a couple openings i want to sing but the only karaokes i could find still have the vocals

>>23922284
Anon I... never played minecraft in my entire life
would that make for a good streaming experience tho

>>23922606
voicemeeter banana comes with that feature built in if you have the patience to deal with the set up
https://twitter.com/vb_audio/status/1225681536101470210

>>23922617
if its with a bunch of people i'd say yes but if your just doing it alone then your going to need to go full throttle with commentary (good way to practice.) since minecraft is a pretty calm game and there isnt a whole lot going on (plus I find the vanilla game boring to play alone.)

Which part of the world are /asp/ies from? Mainly US?

>>23922813
im maple leaf person

>>23922836
I'm so sorry for you

>>23922892
eh

>>23922892
>>23922836
A FUCKING LEAF
why does this make me laugh?

Zatsudan screens: left or right for chat vs model?

>Just made my twitter account and did my reveal tweet
My whole body feels like jelly bros, I'm so excited but also so nervous

>>23923128
either just make sure your model takes up 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen

>>23922813
http://poal.me/yg0be2
http://poal.me/w2jawt

>>23923132
link yourself.

I got into a waiting list for a character design for a PNG for the end of the month.

Hope I can join in with you guys later!

>>23923170
Who's the slav /asp/ie?

>>23923192
https://twitter.com/deku_nobou
>>23923244
Looking forward to having fun with you anon!

>>23923128
Upside down your model.

Why are Canadians

>>23923346
Oddly enough i found you about 15 minutes ago by chance, I like to look at Vtuber ref sheets since I'm still trying to find one I like and recognized the hand you posted a couple of days ago

>>23923346
It's you tarot card boy!!

>>23923346
oh you're the tarot reading anon, your model looks nice. best of luck.

>>23911632
>love singing
participate in "board sings" projects while practicing your singing

>>23923501
speaking of those, i'm surprised we haven't had one since the christmas one

>>23923424
I guess there aren't a lot of anime boys with stitches on their hands, huh?
>>23923426
Yep!
>>23923447
Thank you anon

>>23923399
>tfw I want to somehow make my model look like it's floating in microgravity at weird angles
That would be cool as shit.

>>23923557
/vt/ sings Metric-Lost Kitten when?

>>23923170
Mexicaspie...

>>23923346
Love your full design anon! Your design mama did very well. Reminds me of an Identity V character that would be released or something, and those designs are very stylish. Wishing the best on your debut!

What's the most you'd spend for a vtuber model?

I'm gonna make it. Are you guys and girls gonna make it?

>>23923830
If I can stop being boring and actually play video well.

>>23923830
making it so hard as a viewer

>>23923878
The first part is much more important.

>>23923828
$1000 for 3D probably, maybe $600 for live2d

>>23923934
yes
It's hard to get out of that tiny comfortable place where I'm just quiet and slowly make my way through whatever game I'm trying to do as I had done by myself in the past.

>>23923951
That's a lot less than I was expecting to pay...

>>23923734
as far as non-vtuber related songs that sounds like a funny one to pick
might ask the team if they have any plans for a new vt sings or if they're busy

>>23923828
I'd probably have a 1,500 cap for Live2D and for 3D but that being said I didn't spend that much.

>>23923828
Someone well known in the industry / perfect style I'd want in my model? 1-2K for l2d easily. I'd save the hell up for it.
500-1k max for more of a not so well known artist.
3d would depend honestly on stylization / what I'd want currently though about 300$ on that and I like it very much for where I'm at

>>23923309
No one, I mistook west from east. Need sleep.

>>23923828
I spent 1200 usd for the art so far

>>23924241
>>23924284
Thanks, this is a good baseline. I have about $5000 saved up and I'm thinking about where to allocate those funds and when to spend them. I was thinking of starting as a pngtuber to feel if I even have the talent or motivation to stream longterm before I dump all this money into it.

>>23923823
Mhm, I was super amped to receive it. Seeing other people praise it so much makes me feel like such a dummy for sitting on it for so long, but better late then never I suppose.
>Wishing the best on your debut!
Thanks anon!

>>23923828
I spent a good while combing through vtuber.gg and eventually found a duo that work closely together and got a model and rigging that I really liked for just a little over $600. I feel like it was money well spent.

>>23924549
That's definitely the right mindset to have. Don't dump money into it if you don't even like streaming. I'd either get a cheapish png commission (half body or chibi), or buy some ready to use cheap nizima / booth l2d and try streaming for 1-3 months. If you feel you really enjoy it and don't get burnt out, aim for the skies! I'd aim for a good half into model and front facing assets (overlays, emotes, and etc once you hit affiliate) and the other half on equipment behind the scenes stuff like mic others if you want to spend it all, but there's tons of ways to save and slowly upgrade as you go along. You don't need to dump everything into your budget right from the beginning. Best of luck!

>tfw I earn like $3000+ a month (after taxes) but can't save anything up because there's always something lately that I need to replace or buy
At least I have like $3000 in my TFSA over the past year... but that's for a future house purchase that will probably never happen.

>>23923828
i'd pay veibei money if i had her viewership and income, like its not even a fucking thought in my mind if im a top dog i would go hard on top notch assets, none of this hololive scuff shit

as a 2 view tho fucking nothing. the willingness to invest would incrementally go up with viewership and income tho obviously

>>23923170

I'm not a Honduran waiter.

>>23924935
I think I'm definitely going to dump money into equipment, like a full mic setup, but I plan on doing that anyway for music stuff. The $5000 is purely for vtuber stuff, but based on the numbers anons have posted I think I'll have plenty if I do decide this is what I want to do after a few months of streaming to test the waters.
Do you think I should bother getting a character design/sheet commission and then a PNG, or should I wait until after I'm sure I want to do vtubing to invest any kind of money like that?

>>23923828
Probs 500 max. I don't blink when it comes to 5k wristwatches but I still can't justify myself spending money on digital art

I'm not drunk insider anon, but I am an anon who is currently drunk. Streaming is really fun. I feel like I'm going to be able to do it full-time at some point in the distant future.
Thanks for lighting a fire under my ass, /asp/.

>>23925396
If you already have an idea for the type of character you want and or design, you could honestly just made something out of a picrew https://picrew.me/ for free and then give it to the person making your png and that would save some money.
If you have no idea about anything and are fine with some money dumping before fully diving in, get a character / ref sheet and then ask if the person your commissioning could also do a pngtuber with it (they might discount and throw it in as a deal if they're nice enough).
Usually character ref sheets and designs run about 150$ from what I see, but just look around on twitter a bit or maybe in https://vtuber.gg/ through peoples carrds and see if they also do character design.

>>23925711
Thanks anon! I hope I do end up enjoying streaming. I know it's a lot of hard work, but it seems satisfying and a lot of fun.

I wanna sing "King Kunta" by Kendrick Lamar in Japanese.

>>23923828
I spent $2000 on the art and I might be spending $1000 on the rig. but all riggers have months long waitlists so I'll try rigging it myself..

I'm in the process of cashing out some CSGO skins, from the looks of it i'm getting about 35 bucks, what should i get? Art? Emotes? Also, are there artists that accept skins directly?

>>23926040
save it that's not enough for anything meaningful as a chuuba.

>>23923557
>>23923734
honestly I'd rather frequent /a/ sings since it's all weeb songs anyway

>>23923828
At this point I'm so far deep, that I'm basically dropping 1.5 k USD on my model. TBF I have a fulltime job and also some money saved up that I had no clue what to do with so it's not that much cash.

Plus I wanna get big and shill aspie chuubas.

>>23925961
Here is a Rigger list I've been using.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ktDEBp61x6KM6meSqTYoKtcQawoAG2MBNmtnsNJkXJY/edit

>>23926292
1.5 is pretty normal i think? i spent 1.6 on just rigging but i justified it bc i drew the art myself to save money

>>23922284
>I'm the only one who wants to come in and (respectfully) grief

>>23923170
>tfw the only seafag
What the fuck, where my seachink bros at, you can't possibly leave me alone here

>>23924185
you should ask, it's been 5 months

im trying to get obs to work but when im streaming DOOM 2 eternal it just shows a frozen screen of the game when i try playing it. I recently installed streamlab widgets, gettin all this setup

>>23926767
you doing game capture or window capture?

>>23926767
Some games seem to only work with window capture when they're set on windowed mode, maybe it's worth giving it a try if nothing else works.

https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat

gunna draw and test out this new rig and some audio stuff

>>23926801
>>23926885
game capture doesnt do anything, just black screen. im having these issues with window capture, i dont want to resort to monitor capture. i started off with twitch studio yesterday and it worked fine, and had its own chat overlay top left and game was upside down but that could be flipped easily. tried OBS today and its been tedious.

this is a dosbox game but its the whole mod scene of project brutality DOOM, it runs on opengl and 16:9 1080p.

We've all heard of PNGtubers, but could a JPGtuber make it?

>>23924549
The one odd tradeoff of having so much to invest initially is that the higher your budget is, typically the higher the waitlist is for for riggers/artist in that price range. You could spend 2k on a Live2D that takes months for you to get the art from since you're on a waitlsit, meanwhile something in the 500-1k price range of decent quality you'd get a lot faster assuming the artist isn't just a popular one that undercharges. I've seen artists like Kamochiru with months-long waitlists with prices that are 5k+ for a full body since you're getting something fairly high quality.

As a general rule, the more money you invest into art assets, the longer you'll probably end up having to wait until you can actually even stream with them. High quality art and high quality rigging mean waiting for a slot and then for the artist to finish, and assuming the artist is also doing the design as well, you don't even have a design handy to have other art assets created to match. In all honesty even with 5k to invest into Vtubing, I'd maybe alot 2k or so at most to Live2D+Rigging and go pre-made for the as much of the assets as you can and just spend the rest on things like whatever hardware you need and editors (once you get used to streaming), and just general character art commissions. This is all assuming you give it a shot and even enjoy it to begin with of course.

>>23927022
jpegs don't have transparency so you'll block a lot more of the screen

>>23927247
That was my intention.

>>23923346
always cool to see another reader; the art style of your model gives me huge Hidari vibes which is real neat

That one guy that teased his design before, heres his full design (I somehow was following his art mama)

>>23926648
heard that voting for the next one will be this month at some point. But I heard that a while ago

>>23928365
i'd believe them; they've been working with other chuubas for covers and stuff so that's probably why they've been a bit quiet

>>23928089
Thanks fren. I can sort of see the resemblance. Mama truly went above and beyond for me.
>>23928092
Oh cheers. I didn't know if it'd be weird to post a full pic since I didn't wanna self promo too much and spam. Hopefully it inspires some other anons!

Anyway I need to get ready for work. Hope you're all doing well, and remember that we're all gonna make it!

>>23928429
oh damn, thats cool. who with?

>>23929360
the only ones I've seen from them outside of the sings projects are these:
https://youtu.be/cN84WQOHtt8
https://youtu.be/awkLjoNV3wI
https://youtu.be/6Y0XvNYKP0s
there might be more that either prodanon or fortune have done that I might have missed but they were involved with these covers

>>23911935
I think we should be more careful in sharing this list. If some twitter crusade catches wind of le evil 4channie vtubers we'll all be dealing with the result of it for the rest of our careers.
I don't mind being known by fellow aspies but I don't want to be known as 4chan vtuber, personally. Asp is great for advice and networking with smaller creators, especially with how down to earth everyone is - I appreciate it a lot and I'll probably keep posting here, I just don't want the label of 4chan user needlessly filtering people when I make no mention of it in any of the content I produce.

>>23911935
Lulla here, could I please be removed?

>>23929843
>If some twitter crusade catches wind of le evil 4channie vtubers we'll all be dealing with the result of it for the rest of our careers
to be fair this happened to a bunch of /asp/ies and other /wvt/ chuubas where some twitter she made a list of "streamers to avoid" but the list had only publicly been published after the creator was outed as a sexpest and the reception to the list on twitter was pretty positive

>>23913149
Commentary style is fine, but you need to put more emphasis on what you feel or your thoughts about the game instead of just "It's scary, it's fun" and went on to narrate every little detail about the game.
Also cut on the f words and only use those in critical points because the more f words you use, the more you cut all the tension and your message and personality gets lost. Think of it like typing fuck for every few words you type in 4chan, people won't get whether you're complaining, joking, angry, or anything in between

Hey so curious, anyone know how the eroge streamer market is? What are some big names I could research in that community? I'm not really sure what streaming sites are really best for NSFW content.
I was thinking I could start as an eroge vtuber and I could use lovense products for stream interaction. Or I'd play regular games but still have the toys so viewers could fuck with me... Literally?

Is there a market for that? Would it be a bad idea to have this as a v-tuber origin story if I did want to eventually leave the NSFW sphere after a year or two?
The idea has been swirling in my head for a few months now, but I just don't quite know how I should pull it off... So, that said, I'd like to see who my competition could be and see what they've been doing

>>23929843
>we'll all be dealing with the result of it for the rest of our careers.
Dealing with what? Quite literally nothing happening aside from a few people who you would've otherwise never associated with not wanting to talk to you? Nothing will happen whatsoever. You will not be known as the "4chan vtuber", and you will not get any repercussions. No one has and ever will.

>>23930769
>Hey so curious, anyone know how the eroge streamer market is?
Dead, no one uses the few sites you can stream it on. It's a complete waste of time unless you're a girl masturbating in which case why bother with the game to begin with. There's no competition because there's no money in it unless you're the aforementioned girl masturbating, and you don't need a game to do that.

>>23930769
It's a niche in a niche market, so it's basically dead and you have to either be an semi known e-whore or a camboy.
Only one I could find that's even slightly similar is this streamer, who's twitch partner but switches between this and chaturbate for the nsfw / lewds.
https://twitter.com/KitsuneAnri
Sponsored by Nu:Carnival, which is a BL gacha eroge game but for actual high quality / production I don't know if there's anything like that at all.

>>23930769
Projekt melody is the biggest example of that, but not everyone is projekt melody. You should do it as a side thing. I'm a pervert so I'd enjoy that kind of thing.

If you want other examples: HalfnHalf_Messy, VirtuallyLewd

>>23923346
Your design seems vaguely gambling themed
You might get some inspiration from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgPTlJ3UUGw

>>23930769
Idk much about her but isn't this basically Project Melody or are you leaving her out since she's so well known?

>>23931094
Projekt Melody isn't really something anyone can replicate. She wasn't some random indie vtuber with a dream, she dumped tens of thousands of dollars into a project and had a manager and some of the best tech help she could get, along with a ton of people willing to work with her because she was the "first" virtual camwhore. Aside from her, all the other people who have been successful doing similar things are girls who show their IRL bodies or career VAs that already have a following.

>>23930862
I only bring it up because I browse regular cam girl shit and they're so incredibly boring most of the time. The game adds excitement and stakes or it can be fun to go along with the streamer on their journeys. The usual appeal of gamer let's plays? Coupled with it being porn. Isn't that the best of both worlds for some people? And people love to try and mess streamers up during hard games, so wouldn't streaming a hard game and having a lush or something going be a great idea? And yes, I'm a girl. But I imagine I could get so much farther ahead in the NSFW streaming meta if I had actual content.

One thing I'm undecided on is if I should have all assets be 2D and drawn (so when the toy goes off there's an animation for my character) OR if I would do a full IRL cam... Or if I should just start with the former and maybe build up to the later if there's interest.
>>23930975
I see... Chaturbate was first to my mind too. Thanks for the link, I'll check them out!
I suppose I could just do regular twitch streams too and bounce between the two... All I'm hearing is it's free real estate if the right hands grab hold of the idea!
>>23931034
Yeah I don't know why I spaced the fact I could just do SFW streaming w NSFW on the side... From one pervert to another, thanks!
>>23931094
Yeah I didn't include her because I wanted insight on the general competition for that scene for the average independent streamer. I've got plenty of ideas for it, just haven't made it a reality yet. I would have bet money on me being too late for this idea. I was sure some cam girls would have tried to ride the trend at least a little bit
>>23931155
Pretty much this. I'm an amateur at best and all I'm really good at is drawing and being funny sometimes (and autistic with ADHD but people like "quirky ADHD people" nowadays so I'm probably in the clear). I've only had a minor hobby in voice acting and acting in general. At my best I think I have great potential, but my life hasn't been nearly as lucky as I'm sure Projekt Melody's has been. But I'm still trying my best

>>23931249
Full IRL lower body* cam
But I don't feel comfortable with that and probably won't be anytime soon, but it's a goal I wouldn't mind achieving *someday*

>>23931249
Honestly it's not even a market worth getting into, especially if you're going 2D and not showing yourself IRL. You've basically got nothing to offer to anyone. It's just a massive money/time sink that'll end up with you having to completely rethink your branding once you realize it.

everyone's asking to be removed from the list

they don't even know they're saying MY name.

>>23930769
>>23931249
I'd give you a follow if you post your twitter at least

so . . . , how's Wactor? Since they have applications open. I had spanish for some years in school but pretty much forgot everything. Shouldn't be to hard to relearn - never watched any of these girls and they have applications open for boys (since i am already out for holostars for another month)

>>23931335
On one hand, I understand what you're saying and I imagine it might not be a strong market... But on the other, I'm just genuinely excited and think it's a fun idea and I think I would have a lot of fun doing it.
Worse comes to worse, I can come out as a gaming only streamer and use a slight voice/pitch changer. It's definitely not lost on me that dipping into NSFW could have risks and downsides in the long run, but I'm an artist. I've been aware of this for years and I just don't care anymore. And I think this idea would keep me open to being able to play non NSFW games too. Could even be a good milking strategy if sex toys are always fucking me up in game and making me play even longer.
Thanks all the same for your input. I imagine when I get to starting it, I'll start slow without sinking too much money into it and go from there. My only real issue is unfortunately most of my playthroughs probably won't be blind because I've played so many eroge already
>>23931477
Not sure if I want to associate my current online persona with this project just yet... But I appreciate you man

>>23910700
>>23912964
How do people collab without talking over each other? I always run into this problem on discord where everyone would talk over everyone else or people would be considerate and wait for the other person to go first and the whole call is silent.

>>23931249
iirc there are people doing nukige let's plays in pornhub, might want to look around

>>23931684
>My only real issue is unfortunately most of my playthroughs probably won't be blind because I've played so many eroge already
I've absolutely pretended to never play something before just to get better reactions for chat/clips, I think it's a pretty common thing to do in all honesty. I've pretended to be retarded at Dark Souls just to entertain chat since they love that shit.

>>23931763
it requires practice talking to people and keeping a conversation going.

>>23931763
It's a normal human conversation

>>23931791
Practice what? There are no visual cues in a call and there is lag.

>>23910700
pastebin down?

>>23912565
I'm always watching, wazowski.

But if anyone ever wants me to dig through their twitter/twitch profile and provide feedback, or you want me to check a VOD, post here during Euro hours. Response to this post, and I'll do it, or I'll probably repost this in next thread.

>>23931779
Thanks!
>>23931787
Yeah I'm not opposed to pretending, but I do prefer it when it's new... Are you honest with your chat when you're pretending/hamming it up for The Content? Not like I'm totally against pretending. there probably isn't much else I could do if I played an eroge that already has voice acting in it that I can't dub over and they're typically pretty linear... Well, it's a work in progress project. I'm sure I'll work out these little kinks as I go along! I'm sure there's an audience that would enjoy it all the same, especially when it's a girl playing the eroge. Besides there not being a very good platform for the content, I just don't see why gamer girl sex game streamers aren't already a growing market... I really am shocked to hear it's barely grown since Projekt Melody debuted

>>23929564
hey those are pretty good

>>23920966
I was very pleasantly surprised by how good your stream was! Didn't manage to hang around for ages, but you had good patter, didn't leave too much silence, were actively engaging with chat, and have a nice voice (the important bit).

Actually think you're GMI.

>>23931917
You're doing god's work man, it was pretty nice to see that even if i falter on everything else, at least i'm doing my Twitter reps right

>>23931763
Small collabs, with people you know, with push-to-talk on to speak with each other.
I had a friend I collabed with DM me after a larger Amogus collab, asking why I'd been so quiet during the stream, but it was just because I wasn't actively streaming, so my input was 'less valuable' to my mind than everyone elses

>>23919989
it's totally okay, please don't apologize! i think i saw you say that you made this list to support aspiring streamers and i have nothing but respect for that!! it's not like i hate or even dislike this board at all either, i've met some really cool people from here and gotten some really good advice before, it really is just a personal preference! i'm sorry again anon!! ;_;

>>23931967
>Are you honest with your chat when you're pretending/hamming it up for The Content?
No, at that point it's breaking the illusion. The key thing is to give a decent performance for your audience whether you're genuinely new to something or not. For some people that's playing dumb and mispronouncing something in a silly way or pretending they don't know something obvious, for others it's the opposite.

> I just don't see why gamer girl sex game streamers aren't already a growing market
A girl just sitting there playing videogames isn't sexy, as much as neckbeards try and say it is. Adding masturbating to it really doesn't bring much to it when you could just focus on the masturbation aspect. There's not much "personality" you can add to it either without a full setup like melody, she basically has the market cornered outside of a few VAs and normal ewhores that picked up Vtubing. If she had been 2D that would've been dead in the water after a week or two.

>>23932394
NTA but I totally understand. Having your name on a list defeats the whole purpose of an "anonymous" site, after all.
I'll still try to show up in everyone's streams at times all the same.

I try to not say anything that sounds too crass for a general audience, and I hope others who visit your streams do the same.

>>23931763
its called chemistry, and most people when they recognize that someone is being talked over they stop and acknowledge who should continue. when i talk over my friend, we are familiar enough to where he usually lets me finish, then i finish my thought and i ask him what he wanted to say. if my thought wasnt very important i would ask him to continue

>>23930119
That's probably best case scenario for aspies getting outted.
>>23930819
I mean all it takes is for some vtweeter with 1k~5kish followers and enough vitriol to start sending their fans to come attack aspies. Considering most of us are sitting around 200 to even fewer followers we'd just be sitting ducks for some self righteous asshat to pick on.
And like I said, I don't want people to be filtered from something that doesn't affect my content. A lot of people don't realize 4chan is rather tame when you aren't using pol and b, they'll just assume we're all bigots or creeps for no reason, don't want that.

What VTubers/Streamers do you look up to /asp/? You do watch streams for inspiration, right?

>>23933619
Jerma

>>23933619
Aris

>>23933044
All well and good for a 2 person convo between known friends. That does nothing for group collabs with basically strangers. There are plenty of people with bad chemistry who can talk without overlap. Fucking how?

>>23933110
>I mean all it takes is for some vtweeter with 1k~5kish followers and enough vitriol to start sending their fans to come attack aspies
No, it really doesn't. Again it's not something has has or will ever happen unless that person is openly posting a bunch of racial slurs or something while also posting bananas to somehow prove it's them. Nothing will come of it and there's no V-Tweeter boogeyman that will do anything to impact you, your following, or your content unless you've actually done something to another person directly. You're imagining a scenario that will not occur, and again there's already been a list of "4chan" vtubers as well as several who were outed when Cimrai had her fit.

>>23933619
Cadence and Kiki

>>23933758
>That does nothing for group collabs with basically strangers
Why are you worried about these to begin with, there's no reason to do them so there's nothing to worry about.
>Fucking how?
This seriously sounds like a you problem, not something that's commonly occurring. Either you're just overthinking it because you're awkward or you've got 9000 ping and it makes you talk over people

>>23933619
Pewds.
I also watch other aspies to get a sense on how I would be at the very beginning and learn from the inclining ones.
I'm still waiting for my commission tho.

>>23911615
Working on assets and marketing reps while rigging is ongoing

I will post here to get attacked by vtweeters and get free marketing

>>23927022
People would check it for the vanity I guess

>>23927022
How bout GIFtubers?

>>23933758
You either bull through them, or let them bull through you. This is why collabs are less manic when only one of you is streaming it - if you're both live, then you both need to be entertaining. If one of you is live, and one's a guest, then you know who the spotlight should be on.

>>23933829
>Cimrai had her fit
She has had like 5000 fits over the course of her career, you gotta be more specific

>>23934901
It was the first time she was posted to 4chan and started shitting all over /here/ chuubas and viewers, it took Eira messaging her to make her recant but by then several /wvt/ chuubas had been outed directly to her and her audience. I recall multiple people pointing out Crimbo ,who she collabed with several times, was known to post there frequently amongst others who she was already following.

is a wolf/coyote vtuber a good idea? not in a furry sense, going for an outdoorsy, gritty vibe.

>>23935219
dogchuubas are very common since it's a safe design, so being outdoorsy and gritty is an okay twist to it.

>>23934901
>>23934991
I guess that's some twitter autist (they said they have autism and adhd) that thought harassing 4chan chuubas was fair game?

>>23935219
Maned Wolf.
Thank me later.

>>23935317
ok, what about atmospheric streams, live music playing? im thinking of having some nice animated backgrounds with some sounds and i play some accompanied music. kind of a way for me to practice my playing, might make acoustic/forest covers of pop songs/anime music later on.

is doing music for streams like playing out in the streets, people just come in for a bit and maybe donate some spare change?

>>23935444
i see a furry, and 2 generic vtubers with that from a quick search

>>23935548
Yes, doing music for streams is like busking.

>>23935548
Atmospheric streams are fine but definitely don't make it your main thing. Viewers of that kind of content leave when you're doing anything else. Like the asmr chuubas whose numbers tank when they play games or try to vary their content.

>>23935548
I tried anon. ;_;

good thread

>>23935548
Doing music is good, especially if you make bgms for streamers.

okay, so should i do a debut or just start streaming if ive never done this before? like it seems if you do a debut you kinda have to have your foot deep in the water already, all your shit is prepared well in advanced, and my musical performance cant be shit since id be playing an instrument so mistakes will be worse. if i were to have mistakes then i cant go with such a serious tone of a character, id have to bring it down a bit, make it a little goofy... if that makes sense? i want to be immersive but i just dont know how i can pull it off as someone just getting into it after watching vtubers for the past couple years.

>>23935943
Start streaming to gain experience.
Do a debut after you get a new model/gained a big enough audience that would care/did a milestone
You have to be entertaining, dont be too serious either.

>>23936007
would i need to be out there promoting myself through social media/youtube? that experience also goes with an active chat and communicating with the audience. idk how long it takes to build up like 5-10 consistent viewers, but just streaming on twitch wouldnt be it?

>>23936163
Generally speaking you should be doing those things but there are people who dont and get 10 viewers anyways through word of mouth where their friends introduce your stream to others if youre good enough.

>finally started to look at the resources pinned in OP.
Well.
Shit.
I like it.

>>23935943
A debut can work as your first stream, but it's not likely to.

The idea of doing a debut as your first stream is a corpo thing, where they introduce a newly franchised streamer to their audience of several thousand. It helps you know "Oh, this girls gonna be playing a lot of minecraft, karaoke, and card-based games".
This works because the corpos are (relatively) insular, they share a LOT of viewers. They share fans, and whilst those fans have favourites, it's likely they watch multiple HoloLive chuubas. Some people ONLY watch HL. So if you like Ame and Gura, you might watch the debut for Rrat and Fauna, so see if you also like them. On top of that, the existing talents hype the newer ones.

For indies, you have none of that. You won't debut to thousands of adoring fans, you won't have everyone hyping you up, and you won't be able to go full time (unless you're an existing content creator. Given you came here to ask if you should debut, I'll assume you're not).

As a PERFECT example, let's look at Nana. She was the recent chuuba who had HUGE numbers pre-debut from using the Jenny pre-made model.
https://sullygnome.com/channel/nana_sanada/180/streams
She debuted to an average of less than 90.
That's pretty good figures! A lot of people struggle to hit the 75 CCV needed for Partner.
But nearly every single stream since then has been to fewer and fewer viewers. Latest was 19CCV. That's still good, for someone who's been streaming for under 2 months, but shows she was a flash in the pan (like the paper guy who rage quit, I can't even remember his name).

Start streaming, get some experience under your belt. Maybe hype your first stream with a week's worth of notice, and you might get some people excited to come. Build some contacts, and schedule your 'debut' for a month or two after starting at earliest, to make sure you like streaming.
If you want, schedule it after hitting affiliate, because that way you can get bits and subs thrown your way, which people will do on a celebratory stream!

>>23935943
Because of how debuts work and their original purpose most/all indie debuts are just larps.

>>23936364
It has never been about that.

A debut is an idol thing. It is when you do your first performance. They would do that no matter how few people show up.

I just need to eat rice with onions sauce for a few more weeks then I will have enough to buy a cheap tablet.

>>23936835
Sloth..

>>23936784
>it has never been about that
When it's about Vtubers it is. In the context of traditional idols it's obviously something else, but when it comes to Vtubers that's literally what they're for.

>>23936849
?

Coming up with a character is pretty hard

>>23936784
I've never been interested in the idol scene, so (serious question) do you get indie idols, in the way you get indie chuubas?

From what I can see, Corpo chuubas are aping corpo Idols; and indie chuubas are aping corpo chuubas

>>23936956
>do you get indie idols
Yeah, there's a whole indie/underground idol scene. Typically it's much more organized than an indie vtuber, there's even the equivalent of mini-corpos in the form of indie idol labels.

>Corpo chuubas are aping corpo Idols
I don't keep up as much with the idol scene, but I'm fairly sure this isn't true.

>indie chuubas are aping corpo chuubas
I can tell you with absolute certainty that this isn't true just by looking at the numbers. There's maybe a dozen or so Vtubers with numbers comparable to corporate chuubas.

>>23936835
I ate rice with caramelized onions all the time back in college. It's pretty good

>>23936854
hololive didnt start out with a massive audience, they still did introduction/debut videos.

>>23936956
they are usually "underground" doing live performances on shitty stages, talking to fans and selling bad merch. It is like eerily the same with 5view groomers, "I just want to see them succeed" people, and random people who just stumbled in.

interesting/funny thing that just happened to me: was browsing my discord friends list (on my non-vtuber discord account) and saw someone i couldn't remember, their profile looked like a vtuber profile

checked our message history and it's one of my irl friends from school, she became a vtuber

and coincidentally streams/is in the community of the same small game i'm planning to stream frequently

at least if i ever break opsec to her it'll be mutually assured destruction

>>23936956
Yes you can get indie idols. Dear Stage probably isn't considered indie anymore but they used to be an idol maid cafe and launched several acts including Dempagumi. They probably had some debut performances for lineups/groups owing to owning the venue. As an extension of other market events to generate interest in new products it makes more sense for a company to do debuts. Another example is online niconico douga singers, they didn't have debuts, it didn't make sense.