/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

why is she grad again?

OP here, apparently the old thread didn't get autosaged lol. I tried watching Shia once and a few days after that she announced her graduation. Very cool.

Why did they flop?

>>23833462
Didn't continue her contract. Heard she got irl issues to deal with. It's possible that she will reincarnate one day, maybe.
>>23833462
No, anon, we have this conversation for weeks if not months.

>>23833483
because they got merged to the main branch anon

>>23833570 meant for >>23833483 too. Please do your reps.

>>23833341
>AOI ID Gen 2 will graduate tomorrow (May 8th)
One of them are on her grad stream rn btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH9mIlwwJQc

AIEEEE i forgot about this

>>23834160
Also Haruta had streamed his graduation nowadays. A shame that AOI ID graduated, really, but when you have a dumbfuck CEO, maybe you don't have much choice.

>>23835021
*yesterday, fuck me i need to drink water

>>23835021
qrd on the ceo?

>>23833483
Ask to AnyColor, schizo

How many times we've got this dumb question?

>>23833570
>She'll reincarnated someday
I'll be Waiting

I love him so much

>>23835071
read it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/u0rujl/iqbal_the_founder_and_exchief_executive_officer/

>>23835616
damn, i didnt know its so messed up on local agency

>>23836337
Lack of initial capital and underperforming talents will do that to any agency.
I mean look at smaller EN agencies, they're in crumble too.

>>23836337
Back when they are new, Virtunix fired their former CEO Fox Cho for a similar case like AOI ID. Also Snowdrop ID "commisioner" is probably being hunted by the KPK rn.

Where is /warkop/ pastebin?

>>23833341
OP you forgot this
Previous thread:
>>23819662

>>23835616
Go back faggot

>>23837970
FUCK.
>>23838121
I hate Reddit too, but the poster didn't post it somewhere else. Well, Valrius talked about it.

>>23838507
>Valrus
I always saw his name when someone talk about some ID drama. Is he good? I tried to look for his account and found out he's a newstuber and it's filtering me so I haven't checked his videos yet

>>23838869
Unlike other newstubers, he analyze stuff and has a good grasp on the VTuber scene and YouTube/Twitch in general. He offers advices to indies in his videos and streams. He's good for me.

https://youtu.be/eyHmp_2zmOY
Have any of you listen to this?

>>23838869
more hottakes and opinions than the actual infos. not really the first person you should check for vtuber news.

>>23839041
arent he the one who compared why niji id is better than holo id, then zea have to speak up?

>>23839969
Iirc yes lmao. And well, it's dumb to make a video like that.

>>23839969
What was his reasoning?

>>23839969
You got me intrigued but I'm not in the mood watching anything while I loop Risu's Stellar Stellar rn. What was his talking points?

>mika double down her not safe for work topic by talking about sex on her free talk stream
kek, fuck that kikebook faggot. i hope that dude never watch vtuber anymore.

welp, thread is dying. see you all next wednesday then

>>23833483
is this a ritualpost now?

>>23838121
trying too hard

>>23843324
I think that settles it.
Let's make the thread twice a week every Wednesday and Saturday without any continuation.
Ciao.

Sedikit mengingatkan, timnas /vt/ akan menghadapi /vm/ jam 5 wib disini https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html mohon doa dan dukungannya biar setidaknya gak kayak indog pas vs Vietnam di sea games barusan ini

>>23833483
Because their casuals went belok

>>23833462
>>23833570
Lol, if you get lower than minimum wage from vtubing per month just graduate already and find a real job

>>23850456
Reminds me of this chuuba I followed, she literally sacrificed herself just to moodboost others, she's legit struggling irl but still decided to stay as a chuuba, what a stubborn girl she is

>>23833570
did she go into specifics? if its like school or etc.

What do you guys Think about Virtunix ?

FYI, Virtunix is actually one of a sub Group from Media Formasi, Kreatiformasi is a same.

>>23851788
Link?

>>23833341
OP, please include links to the previous thread for easier backtrack next time. sankyu yoroshiku
>>23819662

>>23854103
it's a long one thp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKpeaoaOcHI

any ID chuuba that panders to 4chan like pippa? if not it's a vacant market they need to get on it.

>>23851788
>Epel
Oh my... Yeah she's great and despite everything, she still wants to deliver stubbornly. I wish her all the best, especially with whatever irl problems she currently has

>>23855066 (me)
Meant for >>23854718

>>23847356
>5 WIB
Doko? All I see is /trv/ vs /vg/

>>23841432
>Mika forget she is not outdonesian

>>23855212
Turns out match started earlier, the good news is we win tho, also rewinds are on so you can rewatch right now while /trv/-/vg/ still on

>>23855696
Ah okay thanks, anon

Can anyone explain me what happen with re:memories,? I'm out of the loop, I remember epel saying they are only a friend circle not an agency and the next thing I know is epel graduating from there, and it's written that they are an agency now also they have new talent coming, I don't know what happen but somehow I can feel something shaddy happen in that agency.

>>23855975
the qrd is epel left because irl problems prevented her from being a vtuber much in the last year and knowing her she probably felt like she was dragging down her friends in re:memories.
shes always wants to do more then she can handle, so much so that in dec 2020 she was basically doing 2 streams everyday, 12 hours apart for a month or so.
in general shes too selfless for her own good.

>I don't know what happen but somehow I can feel something shaddy happen in that agency.
epel is an honest girl so its unlikely there was anything bad going on there for her to make this choice.

Is there any prospect that ID Vtuber can go to TV station as guest or even regular in TV shows there like what happens in JP?

>>23857021
Well just wanna say, wish you luck Epel. Hope you can make it.

>>23857818
Well, it did happen for JKT48. I really dk though.

>>23857818
>TV
If you have 30k fans that watch you every week and you have international prestige enough to tank and defend you from all the normies coming your way. Sure....

>>23857818
It's possible with kekuatan orang dalam but I bet none of them want that and prefer it to stay as a niche like this

>>23858550
They can use Vtubers to actually make Millenials and zoomers to go back watching TV, of course it's also depend what kind of TV program presented.

>>23847356
>https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html
newfag here, so what is that? what kind of tournament is that?

>>23859168
Look, tv is dead. This is the era of the internet. I'd rather have my chuubas focus on their on their own content by streaming frequently.

>>23859445
That was 4cc and quoting from /4ccg/ in /vg/ "Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit."
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

This match was part of Spring Babby Cup 2022, Liga2 of the 4cc and our /vt/ just beat /vm/ 4-1 and now topping the group until next week for our final shot at promoting to Summer Elites, kinda like Liga1 of 4cc
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2022_4chan_Spring_Babby_Cup

There is also a localized version of this among /vt/ generals called vtl, here's how it looks when /moon/ beat /hlgg/(hololive global) https://youtu.be/j8nCO2ZHUm8

>>23860350
>/moon/ beat /hlgg/
Can't believe it happens
i know mostly ID bros are Pro PES player, but holy shit

>>23857818
What surprises me is that no Indonesian TV channel ever talked about VTubers. But, with the incline, I'm sure they will get interviewed by some TV channel.

Imagine seeing fat virtual tits in your TV.

>>23862413
more better, imagine Mythia/MAHA5/HoloID got invited to Bald Podcast like what he did to Punipun and Milyhya...

>>23862591
As a Simpthia, it's a scary prospect. I mean, she toned down a lot in the last 2 months, but her reputation as a coomerbait chuuba didn't change much. I don't want normies to find out her lewd clips and scrutinizes it or begs Miti to do lewd stuff. Maybe I'm paranoid, but even if it happens, I would like to see Mythia incline again.

>>23862591
Don't, he is police's secret agent lmao

>>23862591
>Want a chuuba to go to a glownigger podcast
By any mean, please no

Damn can't comment on lobo's newest vid. What happened? Is it because of the donations?

You guys got any Indies recs who played Fighting games? Preferably who good at it.

>>23864853
Prolly her VOD got flagged as a kid's content by Jewtube just like several VODs of Anya's

kaela will collab with her oshi..

>>23862591
nah, fuck that guy. i'd prefer they become a 2views chuuba rather than get invited to there.

Any recommendations for 2views chuba?

>>23857021
NTA but thanks for the QRD.

>>23854737
treerat

>>23860350
heres a full match /bea/ x /moon/ watchalong on beas channel, its hilarious
https://youtu.be/FwPvgWyUefw

Gundukan

I didn't get to ask this last thread, but do you think Alia gonna coomerbait with her new costume?

>>23879729
coomerbait are the last resources vtubers had when all their plans didnt work, hoping she wont

>>23879920
Same bro

>>23875483
Kek I remember this

>>23875483
poor bea she cried her team lost

Since today is Sunday, I'm watching Kobo's plant vs zombie VOD.
There's something I notice about her, she's the closest thing to an indonesian 3dpd streamer in HoloID.
>She FREQUENTLY (not all) reads sociabuzz donos on the spot in the middle of the game.
I think that's one factor of why she has so many donations from SB. Sometimes the donation influences her gameplay and decisions, it makes the audience feel like they're playing together with Kobo.

>she's very considerate of IOPs and non-gamers audience, a trait that I often found in indonesian popular YouTube gamers (I said that because there's someone like milyhya who's not a streamer) who are often very verbal, describing every information they see, hear and found, and redundant in their communication (in a positive way).
There's a reason for this, the majority of pc games are not translated to Bahasa Indonesia. So sometimes the Streamers need to explain what's obvious for them to their audience who don't know English at all or not familiar with the game. Even though plant vs zombie is a very simple game, Kobo still spent her time explaining the game mechanic, as if she's discovering the game together with her audience for the first time. She's also verbalizing on what she thinks about her next move in the game.

On the contrary, I watched Risu's jump king and Reine's elden ring, They just straight up jump into the game under the assumption that you the audience already familiar with the game they play. Ngerti kan? Mereka itu kayak asik sendiri.

In short, kobo is a talented streamer, I'm curious I wonder if Kobo's PL is probably an ex-streamer unrelated to vtubers.
Her senpais moona, risu, Iofi, reine, anya and ollie could learn a lot from her.

>>23881990
Great analysis anon, especially that sociabuzz donos, there's a reason why every minute donations keeps pouring on her (even though it just 15k), it's because the viewers wanted to get noticed by the streamer

>>23881990
i think it's save to say that she's not an ex-streamer according to her story, she doesn't have PC for streaming until recently. but there's no doubt that she have talent in streaming.

so here's my spicy rrat. kobo is a daughter of an entertainment superstar. this explains why she have 7 different instruments in her house. also, I can explain the reason why she got invited to hololive even though she only graduate from highschool recently and doesn't have experience on streaming before, if she actually comes from an entertainment family, she must be known with reine family. remember she join hololive because her friend told her to join hololive and her friend also lent her an EXPENSIVE KEYBOARD. yes that friend who told her to join hololive and help her setting her PC for streaming is REINE.

>>23882498
certificate oggay rrats

>>23882498
>reines recommendations, reines friends
makes sense, on risu and reine collabs, she seems brave enough bantering with reine but hesitate to comeback at risus joke

also this
>why she have 7 different instruments in her house

>>23882498
>>23882731
Stop it, i start to believe this

>>23882498
hey, a nepotism rrat! but what the fuck, it sounds so real.

>>23882840
>he starting to believe

>https://twitter.com/ayunda_risu/status/1523194185016541191
>Suddenly talk about autotune
Did something happen on ID vtuber community?

>>23882731
>7 different instruments in her house
kobo is ahmad dhani secret daughter

>>23883309
Is it related to Kimi Hime's comment? Or maybe it's the regular Indo dumbfuckery?

>>23883392
I don't know. That's why I asked here
Even Reine and Iofi talk about autotune too

>>23881990
b-but only supacha matter anon
>t. EOP

>>23883650

>>23883309
Probably about last night youtube music where somefaggot accused her for using autotune

>>23883392
Kimihimes comment are long gone

>>23883806
she should just ignore comments like that, no point starting rants on twitter, it just causes them to bait more.

>>23882498
>kobo is a daughter of an entertainment superstar
Quick, which Indonesian superstar have a daughter?
>Ariel
>Dhani from his second marriage
>Ruben
>Someone from the Halilintar family?

>>23883880
I know, risu usually have thick skin about baiting, but apparently this matter bothering her so much

>>23883806
well i don't know it's from autotune or it's just her mic, but she did sound like using autotune in one part of the last karaoke, it's pre-recorded tho so maybe her editor(most likely jay) fuckup the editing

>>23883891
Suzana

>>23883976 (me)
also the fact that risu tweeting something about autotunes is not bad kinda confirming that one part is actually autotuned

>>23883976
She did? I didnt catch that, also did jay still around? I rarely got his updates

>>23881990
>Kobo still spent her time explaining the game mechanic
I've seen a lot of JPs do this as well, most notably Okayu during her first Core Keeper Stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXAsNwifn0o).).
The game isn't translated into Japanese so she gave the audience a tutorial-like rundown before getting deeper into it (despite not knowing English herself).
It's a good trait for any streamer to have, if they want to target a larger audience. The audience will also love them for it.

>>23884038
if you want me to share the timestamp I can, it's just a small part but I'm kinda scared someone gonna use this for shitposting,

>>23884125
Understandable, it was good on me anyway, no complaint at all

People equalize that pitch control and song technique is easily subtituted by auto-tune is retarded. Risu usually thick skinned about bait, but she can't really handle misinformation on topic about music.

>>23882498
Aaiiiieeee this rrat...

>>23882498
isn't the most popular rrat is that she's a member of esport team? i mean someone ask her directly and she neither confirm or deny, i don't really believe it though since she has deeper voice although the way she speak really resemble Kobo's

>>23884594
I thought that was kaela rrats...

>>23884594
it was kaela rrat and that rrat already dead since she stream at the same time with the tournament schedule. also kobo is not that good at valorant, you can fake the reaction time but there's no way she also can fake crosshair placement

>>23884594
mobile esport team? this is my first time read this rrat even though i'm a lurk in /ehe~/

>>23884837
no, different esport team, if Kaela rrat was a Valorant esport team this rrat is MLBB esport team

>>23884837
Arent kyle that asmr gurl?

>>23884888
it's still impossible tho, to be on esport team you need to do scrims at the Bootcamp for 6-8 hours/day also few extra hours for daily rank push

>>23882498
She probably have batak ancestry, batak accent isn't as widespread as melayu, sunda, or java which also explain her religion

>>23884888
>Kaela
>Valorant
Does not compute

>>23883957
>bothering her so much
After all, singing is what she's so passionate about. She won't just stay still if people accusing her (and her gen mates) for overusing autotune. khime's comment didn't help either so she just went on a rant, and I'm proud of her for doing so.

Alright, you faggots stop any dox discussion

>>23885785
seconded but most of it are just conjecture, no one's posting actual roommate stuff.

>>23885033
>to be on esport team you need to do scrims at the Bootcamp for 6-8 hours/day also few extra hours for daily rank push
Or just join those TV esport show in the SpongeBob channel

Posting clips from Gentiana Helix and Charlotte Sylvilia:
https://youtu.be/iSlj7Snubds
https://youtu.be/MblTYRZ2vsQ
https://youtu.be/N6gfGJewJDc
No, they are not pretending, they are an actual couple. Do your reps. Anyways, my peepee feels funny after watching the clips. Please send assistance.

>>23886011
is that helix hand? holyshit she so skinny

>>23884215
Some people have their ears rotten from overproduced music these past few years, anon. Please understand.

>>23883348
How old Dhani's daughter from Mulan again?

>>23881990
>she's the closest thing to an indonesian 3dpd streamer in HoloID
outside of holoID, are there any chuubas with 3dpd traits in ID?

>>23888678
>Indonesian 3dpd
What does constitute it? I mean 3dpd like Kimi, Cookie Red and Aeterna are vastly different from Kobo or do you mean normalfags streamer like Brando, Upi and Reza Arap?

>>23889096
I meant Kobo-ish traits like what you mentioned above
>strong SB/trakteer interactions
>game mechanic explainer

>>23882498
> a daughter of an entertainment superstar
> never been to Bali
> only been on plane once
> posting common street foods on twitter

I'm not even Kobo fan but I know these. Get real anon.

>>23885254
But that's not batak accent...

>>23885254
> the spoiler
And if you're saying kobo is christian, no religious christian would use jesus christ as swear word.
t. christian in ktp only

>>23889479
Mythia reads donos on the fly, but I don't think she really explains game mechanics. Sometimes she can be confused by the game, so yeah...

>>23882498
That is some insane rrat kek

>>23885254
No, she got that batak accent from her highschool teacher.
She said her parents are very fluent in javanese too.

>>23889804
is her religion already confirmed? I believe that she is muslim, just not that devoted

>>23890180
you mean the valorant stream?

>>23889479
Chloe iirc

>>23890244
Valorant, freetalk, posting street food on twitter, choice of words, stream schedule...

>>23889480
Prolly not an entertainer's daughter, just that she has a natural entertainer skill. Her possibly being a friend or at least an acquaintance of Reine is somewhat possible tho.

Aight folks stop youre speculation right now

>>23833341
>warkop
Is Indro still alive? Been decades since I left.

>>23891366
Yeah he's still alive. You will hear it if he died one way or another

Miyu Ottavia's birthday stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaoP9jfwEH8

>>23890533
>posting street food on twitter
I mean, I can be a fucking Pastafari and still eat cilor

When did ID as a whole start inclining? Surely it's already start to incline before HoloID3 right?

>>23894046
Yeah, it gotta be the holofes buff. ID1 did amazing there.

>>23894046
i think it stared with chloe then continued by miti, that bitch is the one who bring vtuber to mainstream fanbase, her hashtag on tiktok already reached 150 million view IIRC

>>23894046
holoID?
holofes

>>23882498
>yes that friend who told her to join hololive and help her setting her PC for streaming is REINE.
holy shit Anon, I've never think about this thing before, but dang, i should really believe in your rrat

>>23894733
Oh wait, ID as a whole lmao sorry I only watch holoID

>>23894793
Kanna Tamachi was big in the mid-late 2021, but sadly she barely streams now. Nearly forgot her. There's also Mine I guess, but Miti really did well with her Tiktok videos and Shorts ||which I try to forget.||

>>23895348
>discordfag
this is not the way of 4ch, touristchama

>>23895405
Apologies, I'm a dumbfuck.

Also, OP here, should've made only one thread yesterday, because if this thread survives till Monday, I will make a new thread in Thursday instead.

>>23894793
>that number must be a fluke
>checking her subs number
>580K
dang I know she is big but I never know she's that big, no wonder her fans have the guts to shitting on holo and niji fanbase. i don't like her but I respect her for understanding her market and being that successful

>>23895348
>Kanna
Man that name nearly escaped me
She's one of the OGs for sure
And the only vtuber back then that curses like normal people, not sanitized bullcrap by corpotubers.

>>23895348
>There's also Mine I guess
I just realized she broke 100k, didn't expected that for sure, what's her selling point that makes her this strongby becoming clipfags favorite?

Do you think Hibiki Kayomi will ever reincarnated as corpo chuuba? I thought she will be in ID3 as Kaela or Zeta but apparently not lmao

>>23896955
Looks like she is a GFE or maybe a coomerbait

>>23896243
As a Simpthia, it weirded me out that some of us were so spineless that they shat on other chuubas. Especially Moona. What even was the point of pitting both of them against each other? It's fucking madness.
>>23897196
I think she's more of a GFE chuuba? She had lewd streams, but it's not as extreme as Snowdrop.

>>23897044
is she a good streamer tho? i know she is good at singing but I never watch her stream

Eyy, Risu got a $1000 Streamlabs dono. Love that for her! Heard her situation was kinda rough in 2021?

>>23897432
>What even was the point of pitting both of them against each other?
It's called competition

>>23897443
Never watched her but from VOD numbers it's high for that number of subscriber so i think she was decent atleast.

>>23897724
>competing against Indie
Holy shit what has hololive name become to compete against indie and both of them clearly have different target audience.

>>23897724
But I wish for jolly cooperation, unity.

>>23897432
they are called falseflagger, using other chubba act like one of the fanbase, you can use to lit a war between fanbase or just to seethe, because their oshi cant compete with yours

>>23897873
You don't see Persija and Persib supporters or Persebaya and Arema supporters walking together linking their arms and say "we're in this together la la la". The same concept should be applied to Vtubers.

>>23898000
Now that I think about it, is it comparable to the concept of divide et empera jaman londo?

>>23896243
as someone who exclusively watched holoID for the last 2 years seeing how big id market incline really drop my jaw. so many ID vtuber already reach 100k+ I remember back when that number was only owned by HoloID, Hana, Andi and Alia. other than Mythi someone who grows from nobody to superstar is Sena with 330K. chloe who used to live under epel shadow already surpass her number, even a lot of small corpo already have sub50k chubba as their flagship. i used to think id scene will incline after 2021 and a lot of ID viewer will moveon to EN speaking chubba, I guess I was wrong then. and kobo is the one who woke me up and thinks id market is never explored well to be begin with until recenly.

>>23898000
It's plausible but when I say that someone calls me a shill.
>>23898010
Doesn't have to be that way. The competition is not as direct as actual sport matches.

>>23898226
au ah ngab, ga ngerti sejarah gw

>>23884971
Who? Big ASMR YouTuber?

>>23898010
>the same concept should be applied to Vtubers.
Fuck no, if we normalize chuuba tribalfagging like in liga1 supporters it'll ruin market image for us and our oshis, it'll be everyone's loss

>>23898754
ya ga usah liga 1 juga, anggep aja kayak rivalitas barca-Madrid, celtic-rangers, emyu-liverpool

>>23898010
>use football team as a comparison
retard use jkt48 member with regular actress if you want real comparison

>>23898971
those rivalries attracts the worst of those kind of people so
>Fuck no

>>23899003
The main problem here is there are little to no rivalry between artist groups. For example, JKT48 and Kangen Band have no rivalry.
An apt example of rivalry might be Smash Boyband against ANTIS but it's an anti-vs-fans thing. Different things from fans-vs-fans.

>>23898693
no, she only had like 2k subs, but her contents are real good, its not 100% proof tho

>>23899226
That's the fucking point, there should be no rivalry between them, they are an entertainer not a fucking football team, stop being retarded schizo

>>23900014
>theres should be no rivalry between fanbases, they are entertainer
have you discovered kpop groups yet?

>>23900518
Just because that's how it *is* for some cultures, doesn't mean it's how it *ought* to be.

>>23900566
yes anon, keep that in mind for your life, its good for your health

>>23900566
Stop it anon, It's unless to argue with that retard. Even after I give him easiest example he still trying to use example that less relevant. Schizo will always be schizo.

>>23893548
bros wht happened to her? isnt she got the same kusogaki vibe like kobo but with a little bit deeper voice?

I genuinely surprised there is a mythiafag in here.

>>23901598
Was it? All I know is she became less relevant after siska debut.

>>23893548
does she always streaming in this late of night?

There is no such a thing as ID unity,
It is just a scam from small streamers to promote their small circle to a bigger fanbase,
this answered the question of how this "ID unity" never reaches Iofi or anya and only cares about hot shit like Ollie or Kobo.

>>23901598
Miyu? Not really, her traits are more into tomboyish girl

23902072

here we go again.

>>23902130
That anon telling the truth, though?

>>23902072
BASED

>>23901843
She's always been a night owl, got even worse since her new job

Uh oh, they're coming... brace yourself anonstachi !

>>23902176
>didn't even notice that anon shifted the goalposts

>>23902072
i actually think ID unity is a meme too. we know some of the ID indies are here, it could be them trying to push that.

Do you think the latest Azura stream will bring the downfall of ID chuubas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2JRz6ioSOI
>drunk : against ID moral values
>playing with pancasila : triggering nationalist, causing taiwangate scandal that could shut chuubas from ID

>>23902072
I love cherrisu tho

>>23902830
no, those standards only apply to HoloID

>>23902830
they're no longer ID

>>23902967
This. it's like everyone trying to cancel a popular e-celeb because of saying an underrated Opinion, meanwhile small content creators can do a live orgy party stream and can still get away with it.

>>23903229
>small content creators can do a live orgy party stream
???
who?

>>23903329
me

>>23902871
here have some Leemoona

>>23902176
NTA
>While posting Risu's pic
Baiters don't watch her I guess or maybe he's just an EOP, Ollie might branded herself as THE unity vtuber, but Risu have been doing that for years and she's more action than talk.
It's always funny to me when people credited Ollie for any kind of collabs with other ID vtubers like Zen and also Holostars. That Anon also didn't know anything about Iofi. Only Anya barely collab with ID vtubers.
As for Kobo, duh she mostly speaks in Bahasa, It's inevitable.
But it's not like that anon speaks falsehood, for Kobo's case if she wasn't a vtuber before, I see there's no reason for her to mingle with other ID vtubers. But if she was an indie like reine, zeta and Ollie, I think that it's just bad if you suddenly forget about your friends after debuting as a Holo.
There's some truth in it because (some) ID vtubers only talk about Kobo. zeta and Kaela are forgotten.

>>23903229
Reminds me to "Tebak agama vtuber" incident
Moona got cancelled but no one bothered Bonni kek

>>23903565
I hate that fucker because of that

>>23902789
>we know some of the ID indies are here
If you are /here/, please give us a sign by tweeting anything about warkop today.

>>23903506
Tldr: ID vtuber only leech to the most vulnerable one like Ollie or the one who can say no to any collab invitation like Risu, or a top dog like Kobo,
But barely touched everyone who did not give them any chance like Anya or Reine, or small dogs like Zeta or Kaela.

>>23903668
unironically yes, you will be the first /here/ ID chuuba. there's no other /here/ competitor, it will give you a boost just like with pippa and bea and lift you from 1 view to 2/3 view.

>>23903506
>maybe he's just an EOP
salah tebak anda, lintah ya lintah, fakta ya fakta.

Btw this Anon >>23903821 is not me >>23903506

>>23903883
Both are true

>>23903876
>Baiters don't watch her I guess
So this one, is it?

>>23903657
Well he also got cancelled once last year, after tweeting about he finished games under 2 hours to refund them

>>23903921
Thank you for saying that it's true, but I tried to be more neutral for my wordings

>>23903506
i tune into kobo's recent stream and the entire stream was attention whoring contest from 2view chuubas in her chat, they literally making the stream about them, i left immediately. you don't see clown fiesta like that in kaela's stream, feelsgoodman.

https://youtu.be/jlRmmPjINSs

>>23903935
tetnot, juga salah, I actually adore someone like Soo min park in ID fanbases than clout chaser who is only doing debuff to holoID

>>23904014
Yeah this is sad for Kobo, I think it's a litmus test.
HTF are these chuubas clinging to her but not her genmates, makes the leeching very obvious kek

I'm not gonna reply to a schizo, sorry
Please go back to Facebook

>>23902830
probably wont be that far, but certainly will feed those dramafags up
although she shared the stream link on fb so maybe that was her intention from the beginning

>>23904144
>can't give any counterargument
>call them schizo
why don't you type without crying?

>>23904201
>Using a made up drama to incline
Kek just like e-celebs

>>23903506
Member when Risu pioneered relation with another SEA vtubers?
Member when Iofi pioneered unity with Holostars?
Ahh sweet times~
Nowadays people only recognize Ollie cause she talks more and loves to appear on every random 2view streams

>Holofags ruining the thread
every time

>>23903876
NTA but I need to remind you guys again, ngelintah adalah kunci, vtubers aren't the exception to workplace norm that those who gained the most network gained the widest path to success

>>23904486
Do you watch indies? Let's talk about indies. Anyways, I hope Miti is fine, she's inactive this Sunday...

>>23904486
Do you watch ex-nijiID? Ah, me neither.

Have you guys bid Gita farewell yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzTvn_ekEuQ
I wonder if she plans on reincarnating soon, same with the rest of MiHaGi, I hope they can be like gen2 myholo, using their AOI days to build a better next life

>>23904486
Lookie here friend, You know why I hate your ID 2 views, I want my holo girls to get only got good things, I want them to get big, I want them to succeed, collabing with your chubas only bring debuff, nothing achieved, just look at Ollie, ollie is stupid for letting these leeches suck her dry, even Holofans leave her cause she chose to shill your 2views other than Holostars who need it the most,
fuck you and your Irrelevant 2 views.

>>23902072
>>23903473
>>23904907
I feel you anon, but please don't use Holo ID girls in these posts, they don't deserve the hate you going to create out of all your posts.

>>23904907
...Indonesians ARE pretty superstitious, I guess

>>23905075
yes, we are, there's a reason why this place is better than the schizo central you call Facebook.

>>23904463
Kek
Newfags gonna newfag
Why is Ollie attracting so many schizos into the fandom?
I'm just gonna ignore any shitposts with risu's pics on it
>Also that anon who blame holofags
This is a Holoboard deal with it

>>23905075
>"they hated him cause he says the truth"
LMAO

>>23904907
>other than Holostars who need it the most
agree anon, I agree :(

I have a legitimate question here, why do the schizo care about Holostars but not ID vtubers? And why is she/he an ex-zomrade?

>>23905066
>they don't deserve the hate you going to create out of all your posts.
implying that's not his goal in the first place

>>23905508
clearly,
ID unity < Holo Unity

I wonder if the schizo is a male vtuber who's also a gachi and dreaming about getting into Holostars ID
M-chan...

>>23905591
you just describe Zen right there.

>>23905646
But the schizo dislike zen though as you can see in here and /ehe/
So it's not him

>>23905701
yes,
>the schizo is Holo gachi and dreaming about getting into Holostars ID
>zen also a gachi and dreaming about getting into Holostars ID
of course, the schizo hates him, it's a competition
KEK

>>23905830
>zen also a gachi and dreaming about getting into Holostars ID
Is this a rrat or a juicy tea?
Give me a proof

>>23904907
>>23902072
Based, everyone calls you a schizo but can't deny all the facts,
Holo Unity > ID Unity

>>23905508
they probably don't really care, nor watch them even
but they definitely doesn't want their chuubas to interact with >>23904014 >>23902830

>>23905874
it's a narrative ofc, but he makes it looks like he wants to get close to the girls every time he seeks attention on the holos chat.

>>23906071
>get close to the girls every time he seeks attention on the holos chat.
it's called Leeching anon, he is not a fan either, he just wants to get a shoutout to fill his ego.

>>23905830
his presence is annoying, when I watch anya stream everytime he's show up, the stream had to stop because anya had to say hi to him
I'm glad kobo actually handled him pretty well, everytime her chat mentioning zen, kobo told them to shut up and threaten to remove zen from mods

>>23906071
Is that only toward Holo girls or just any female vtubers?
I don't watch him
Now I'm legitimately scared of Holostars ID. Thank God nothing like that ever announced

>>23906219
He watches Anya too?
He's pretty consistent

>>23906266
nah, he's just using template "don't forget to gluk gluk" thing
he's not really talking about stream

>>23906314
At least he's not like some indies who ignored Zeta, Kaela, Anya and Iofi

>>23906219
Heh better than the other places he sometimes derail the chat. Anya usually only hi and mind her own business

>>23906219
>everytime her chat mentioning zen, kobo told them to shut up and threaten to remove zen from mods
Kek
I wonder if Kobo is here and saw my rant post about how Ollie always encouraged her chat to say hi to her mods and it bring bad behavior to all HoloID chats

>>23906437
Nah Kobo is just smart, she may sound and act like a child, but she got some good brain.

>>23906437
she's actually making sure that he's doing his job properly as moderator
she even removed one of the mods on stream and threaten other if they're not doing their jobs properly (as translator) she'll remove them too because they're just "intern"

>>23906494
>>23906573
Can she be more based than this?
I like how she's filtering the schizos, tardwrangling her chat, and make her clout chasers into working horses.

>>23906365
Speaking of Zeta-Kaela
Who's in ID scene likely to be close with these 2?

>>23906824
I thought Reine want to rape both.

>>23906824
>Kaela
Maybe siska (and reine), I don't watch Niji so... This based on informations provided by NijiIDfags

>>23906824
Not sure
Zeta is shy
Kaela is awkward

>>23906824
Karla moona
Zeta reine

>>23906219
Timestamp? Holy based if this is true kobo

i can't believe that anons said the incline of ID vtuber scene was because of mythia...
how delusional you are, mythifag.

Wow
Kobo is not my oshi but she's objectively the best streamer in HoloID
I praised her so many times here more than my oshi, it's unreal

>>23907439
ok who asked ?

>>23907145
so far, this is what I found
https://youtu.be/CNjTBz-tGqA?t=3172 - kobo pissed when chat keep mentioning zen
https://youtu.be/CNjTBz-tGqA?t=10019 - she removed one of the mods on stream
https://youtu.be/CNjTBz-tGqA?t=10299 - plan to remove zen and other mods too
https://youtu.be/CNjTBz-tGqA?t=11951 - warn all the mods to do their jobs properly

these newfags on kobo's comment section man...
i hope they learn their lesson not to respond on spammer and chat police.

>>23902072

>>23904907

>>23908492
Why ollie can't do something like this in the past? Aaaaaaaaaaa

can you fags stop starting shit using holoID or replying to holoID only anons that are just here to start shit?
just go to the holoID threads because you always end up devolving the thread into
>muh hololive is better.
falseflagging or not, this is not the holoID thread, this is the general ID thread and im not against talking about holoID in relation to the rest of ID, but we always end up with the same bullshit the rest of the board suffers of holofags/falsefags going and fucking up any convo.

>>23902072
>"ID unity" never reaches Iofi
>The same Yopi who had rl date with Shia and played Apex with Ranran
You fucking what???

>>23902072
based

>>23909968
Not my problem, blame the schizo.

>>23909405
She is just too naive

>>23911723
It's been a long time since I watch Ranran (or any arknet in general) how is she doing nowadays?

>>23909968
Then start talking about others, some of anon here are only familiar with niji and holo, You, the other hand, apparently had more info about other id chubbas, then throw the info /here/

>using football example is irrelevant!
>proceeds to do the same shit football fans do
At this rate we'll see HoloID fans answer to Haringga. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>23909968
t.nijiIDnigger

>>23909968
>HoloID fan
It's just one ex-zomrade eheschizo, anon. It's not like that schizo is watching gen1 from the beginning

>>23917551
What the fuck does this even mean

I'm asking for a recommendation, is there an indie/small corpo vtuber who never collab with males? Maybe our problematic "friend" need a new oshi. It would be good if we can contain him here and he stopped coming to HoloID generals

>>23918591
Literally none afaik. Most Indo indies collabs with males.
>Captcha: SURGA

>>23917421
its not the talking about holo thats the problem, its the convo degrading because of the mention of holo.
as i said i have nothing against talking about them, that is until the thread devolves because falseflagging and people giving said (you)s to them.
>>23917681
correct tag but i would hold this opinion regardless of being a nijiIDfag.
>>23917895
one guy or not, people reply and that leads to more shit.
>>23918591
indies and small corp cant survive on no male interactions, not even holo could avoid it for its first 2 years and it took till they became the top dog for them to do it.
>It would be good if we can contain him here and he stopped coming to HoloID generals
why would you wanna curse us with holo-bred autism?
containing him here wouldnt work for long since this place needs people to want to come here to function, schizos push people away if there isnt enough normal(relative) anons and eventually kill such a thread as this.
theyd just go back to the holoID thread after this place dies.

>>23918591
Holofags are too far gone anon. They're literally the LoveLive of Vtubers. Absolute fucking cancer.

>>23919148
Wrong turf
This is a Holoboard.
>>23919114
It's just one schizo
If you can't deal with it, go back making your comfy nijisanji ID general

>>23918045
I can see HoloID fans straight up harming a 2view fan FPI-sweeping style, or worse, a 2view themselves. These threads has shown how unhinged they are.

Oh fuck all of you, am I the only one watching indies here? Even then, I only watch Miti (and yay, she's active this morning). Again, OP here, who should I use for the OP image this Thursday?

>>23900566
yeah, very relevant advice

>>23919283
>It's just one schizo
and yet in your other reply in the same post you're backing up the schizo

>>23919419
Make it mythia, I don't mind her actually
t. Holoidfan

>>23919419
Well I watch Chloe but is she considered indie since she has some sort of corpo backing?

>>23919470
Huh?
I didn't reply to the schizo.
I'm replying to this >>23909968

>>23904486
alright, let's talk about other ID vtuber like....um, any idea?

>>23919419
I watch a male utaite, it's not like he's streaming now... So there's nothing to discuss

>>23919548
I'm talking about your reply to >>23919148

>>23919590
Who?
My... Husbu?
>>23835223

>>23919419
There's no drama in the indie scene so "discussing" them are not nearly as exciting. Meanwhile Holo and Niji both have drama spanning centuries. We should create some drama, inviting @AREAJULID, lamtur, and other drama accounts. Spicy.

>>23919640
How's that "backing"? When I disagree with him?
You act like the schizo himself, your opinion is basically the same variety of
>Let's gatekeep this thread from HoloID fans
But in less blunt version

I can't understand Ollie, is she an innocent klutz or a malicious hypocrite? Her interaction with other ID on stream and discord makes her seem innocent, but her action often looks like she is trying to exploit her peers and destroy her rival and competitor. Like:
>bringing Connor which killed some gachikoi for her senpai
>ID Minecraft server to kill MC buffs
>gave 2views too many attentions
>spread the 2views attention-seeking-and-giving culture into the rest of ID chat
>invite male into ongoing collab then left leaving her partner there
>has her genmate's doxpic
>Spammed collabs with a new rising star, multiple 1on1 collabs in quick succession in the span of just a few days from collab stream, twitter space, offcollab, karaoke. The other two didn't receive this much attention from her
I want to believe she is innocent, but the coincidence lines up so much.

>>23919523
Chloe is affiliated with Re:Memories, an agency. However, the way they phrase it as "independent agency" can be confusing.
>>23919590
I'm still perplexed by Snowdrop ID. Like, fucking hell, people call Miti a whore but Snowdrop ID is just, in a different level. Well, it seems that their niche is being lewd and they have some success with that.
>>23919753
I hate dramafagsssssssssss

>>23919771
I'll use your own word to let you see how you look.
>>Let's gatekeep this thread from non-HoloID fans
>But in less blunt version

>>23919825
>Snowdrop ID
Reminder that their commissioner have an active corruption case, it's a ticking time bomb.
>ASTAGA, SNOWDROP ID BUATAN KADER G3R1ND124 MERUSAK MORAL BANGSA

>>23919849
This is a Holoboard deal with it.
You cannot gatekeep against HoloID fans

>>23919936
And we're back to point 1.
You're backing up the Holo schizo while at the same time chastising them.
Deal with it.

Reminder:

>>23919976
So if you're not a HoloID fan, and not friendly with us, who are you?
It's just one schizo, and you are gonna chase us out from here?
You are unreasonable

>>23920012
Speaking of the gif, I kinda want to commission a gif with non-Holo agencies fighting against Hololive while singing along the tune of "Tinggalkan Ayah Tinggalkan Ibu".

Which is more annoying, insufferable Holofags or thin skinned nijiIDfags?

>>23919419
i use to watch ID indies more but the ones i still do i dont want this hellsite getting their eyes on, theyre not in a position to handle this shit.
>>23919523
id say chloe is indiecorp because re:memories was formed after epel put them together, they have management but sorta like vshojo the company came together because of the vtubers, not the other way around.
>>23919548
>>23919771
>This is a Holoboard.
anon this is basically saying its okay for them to be schizos because this board was made for them.
refer to >>23900566
just because the holofags are the reason this board was made doesnt mean they get to be little shit children and fuck up everyones threads.
>>23919936
besides my point isnt to gatekeep holoID from the discussion but to stop the discussions of holo id from devolving into stupid bullshit.
and even if my intent was to gatekeep holoID out, they already have multiple generals related to them, since as you said this is a holo board after all

>>23920072
kek, but if you want audio, it's not a GIF

>>23920057
You can't have your cake and eat it too. You want to be "friendly" with non-Holo fans but at the same time agreeing with the person antagonizing them.
You call me unreasonable but fucking hell

>>23920123
>anon this is basically saying its okay for them to be schizos because this board was made for them.
What I'm saying is gatekeeping is futile, gatekeepschizo

>>23920167
If one African man hurt you, are you gonna be racist and make assumptions for ALL african men?
I don't like your sweeping generalization, that's all.

>>23920193
correct, it is futile, thats why my intent was never to gatekeep, it is to manage the culture so holo id discussion doesnt derail the thread everytime it comes up.
i have no want to kick holoidfags out, but i am going to call out for people to not allow for the bad apples to fuck up the thread,

>>23920299
No, but I won't hesitate do dislike one African man who hurt me, and another African man that adds fuel to the fire.
And you're basically the second one.

To be fair, I think anon meant (holoID only anons that are just here to start shit)
and not (holo ID only anons) (that are just here to start shit)

Shit wording though, I'm sure most of us can agree with the intent but anyone can see how that wording can be misread.

>>23920396
*to

>>23920310
I told you I'm not replying to the schizo, unless you are one
Ah fuck it I'm gonna call you gatekeepschizo from now on

>>23920310
>manage the culture
> /vt/

>>23920445
oh i didnt realize it was weirdly worded.
yeah basically that

>>23920445
Why do you have to point that out, it was funny read from the get go

>>23920445
>I think anon meant (holoID only anons that are just here to start shit)
>and not (holo ID only anons) (that are just here to start shit)
What's the difference? That's the difference between "stupid" and "Texas".

>whines about HoloIDfags shutting up the thread
>shits up thread even worse than they did
>meanwhile, hardly any indie discussion

>>23920167
>with the person antagonizing them.
Are you new here? Do you know what falseflagging is?
The fact that the schizo is using risu pic tells a lot. Come on, don't fall into the trolling.

>>23920858
>hardly any indie discussion
If you are searching for indie discussion, You will have more luck with it on Facebook. If you want to shill your indie here, you are welcome to do it as long as you are polite. I will consider checking your oshi.
t. I watch HoloID, Maha5 and Kururu.

>>23904907
Tsunami fact.

>>23920965
>The fact that the schizo is using risu pic tells a lot.
Yeah, that the schizo is a Risu fan

>>23920656
i mean each thread has its own culture anon, what people are willing to put up with and what is allowed.
management is something that is naturally agreed on anyway.
>>23920454
to make it easier on you im the anon with the multireplies and the one you just replied to with this comment.
the rest are another anon.
>>23920857
>and not (holo ID only anons) (that are just here to start shit)
more correctly the sentence would be "and not holo ID only anons, that are just here to start shit."
usually a coma is used to split up a sentence if the remainder of the sentence is not a directly related.
basic its the difference of "time to eat grandma!" and "time to eat, grandma!" one implies grandmas going to be eaten, the other implies someone is telling grandma its time to eat.
i forgot most here are ESL so this idea probably wasnt taught to you guys directly enough to pick up on it.

>>23921221
Look I don't want anymore loop about this, you two stop it.
Why don't you just shill your oshi here?

>>23921221
>(holoID only anons that are just here to start shit)
HoloID-only anons -> start shit -> thread derailed
>(holo ID only anons) (that are just here to start shit)
HoloID only anons -> start shit -> thread derailed
You need to make a goddamn flowchart because even using comma the meaning between the two are one and the same.

>>2392122
Shut tf up and shill your oshi here, if you don't wanna talk about HoloID.
t. This anon >>23921100

>>23921279
im just correcting my error in comunication at this point.
though shilling my oshi would start more shit so doing that is a bad idea to be honest

Fuck man, I'm afraid with all the growing popularity of vtubers in ID, one day some religious/political leader / KPI nutjob screeching and then blanket banning vtubing.

>>23906573
Ilove her more now

>>23921584
ive always said ID is a timebomb since the moona drinking incident.
it probably wasnt intentional but niji id not growing helped not speed up the timebomb while still allow us to enjoy them.

>>23921456
Wrong reply that was meant for >>23921221

>>23921551
Shut up and shill your oshi
I love HoloID
I love Maha5
I love Kururu
I love Kururu's soft voice, I love it when he's whispering, I love his shota voice, I love his cool but strange demeanor. Iwanna stroke his hair. I want him to stream more, please zen I know you are here, if you see this, tell him I need his karaoke/singing stream.
Thank you Ollie, HoloIDgen1 moona, risu, Iofi, zen and Andi, without all of you, I won't find my kamioshi. I will forever indebted to you

>>23921584
Just dont come to botak podcast and vtuber will be fine

>>23921957
rrat: Deddy invites Moona or Ollie into his podcast, but management declines the offer.

>>23922126
...and then, Deddy invites Miti or Snowdrop and all hell breaks loose

>>23922247
MITI NOOOOOO DO NOT ACCEPT THE BALD MAN'S INVITATION I BEG YOU AIIEEEEEEE

>>23921584
Idk, maybe just act like a decent human being and don't do retarded shits then you're safe. Jangan tolol lah intinya.

>>23922126
Big if true. Kneel to M-chan.

>>23922934
>maybe just act like a decent human being and don't do retarded shits then you're safe
lots of vtubers (corpotubers included) are incapable of comprehending this concept though

>>23922934
>don't do retarded shits
This is inevitable as vtubing grows in ID, you know it's true. Hell, seeing how retarded the censorship in local TV nowadays where even clevage, small violence and cigarettes gets cut out/blurred, I can see KPI screeching at the smallest shit like swearing or even just their costume. Also Moona Vodka.

>>23922126
>Moona
As much as I love her, I have to say No
>Ollie
>fanbase is normie friendly
>already speaking 50:50 in Bahasa and English.
>she's normieschizo and schizogachi filter, the hologarden satpam
>Enthusiastic about HoloJP, HoloEN, and Holostars
She's the perfect chuuba to introduce holobox

>>23923289
KPI has no jurisdiction over Internet though, Tanoe did try to make it under KPI but it failed Constitutional Court's ruling.
Political/religious pressure though, that's an entirely different ballgame.

>>23923496
If I'm the baldnigger I'll invite Ollie instead of Moona

>>23922126
would he invite reine tho?

>>23923496
If by 50:50 you meant 20:80, sure.

>>23923613
Even if the management allow it, she will reject the baldnigger

>>23921584
arent one of the agency are owned by politician? and they have to banished the existent because he got arrested for corruptions

>>23923496
>>23923613
>Deddy asks, "kamu ini pake embel embel Indonesia, tapi mana representasi Indonesianya"
Open and shut

>>23923699
>Reine : we introduce Bahasa Indonesia and indonesian food to the nips and EOPs

Are we shilling oshis now.
I'm both excited and scared of Reza's D&D with NijiEN tomorrow.
I really want him to incline and I think him inclining will be good for both ex-ID and Indo tabletop culture.
But I can already feel the /tg/ boomers and tribalfags complaining.

>>23923763
>Deddy asks again, "Kamu ini memperkenalkan sesuatu yang orang Indonesia sendiri ga kenal, tapi agensi sebelah (assuming Deddy made the research) memperkenalkan yang Indonesia sudah tau, Indomie contohnya, atau STMJ/tolak angin contohnya, bagaimana kamu menjustifikasikannya?"

>>23923496
>normie friendly
we should use that words more often

>>23923872
Indo table top culture is capsa, anon
None of that nerdy shit

>>23923872
>nijien
whos on it?
D&d are untapped niche for vtubers, shoulve open up more market

>>23923908
>Indomie contohnya, atau STMJ/tolak angin
If you talk about NijiID they are no longer ID.
Beside unlike the HoloID bento in holofes, those are commercial products unlike HoloIDs real culinary.

>>23924092
Kan gua nyontohin si Dedi
Besides, you know he'll bring the "you're ID but why EN-only" stuff if you know how his "interview" with Shin Tae-yong went.

Ollie chess match vs dewa kipas when

>>23924215
Dude, we are just talking about a what if...
A rrat
Even if Deddy invite HoloID, M-chan wouldn't let him near HoloID or even if it's permitted, at least M-chan will filter his questions.
I'm on the "I don't want Deddy podcast" camp, so calm down there's no podcast with the baldnigger

>>23924092
Oh also, Bento is not Indonesian "real culinary". The fuck are you on.

>>23924478
Calm your tits, NijiIDfag
Bento just mean lunchbox

>>23924436
>M-chan
the very same m chan who let connor leeched holoID am i rite?

>>23924548
And "lunchbox" ain't Indonesian real culinary dawg.
Are you even Indonesian?

>>23924560
>Cannur
He has kadokawa backings unlike the baldnigger

>>23924641
Bald man has Luhut backing

>>23924699
>Luhut
irrelevant

>>23924312
>newfag vs a fraud
This battle will be legendary