/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Menherabeats deserve your love and care, not scorn

>>23845238
I don't want to go in her cringe collection...
D:

I thought the performance was good overall.

I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

I don't like that member streams feel pressured like requirements now

>>23844832
niggers like this are unironically insulting her with the implied fragility
she faced a lot of criticism head on, even when it hurt her and carved her own identity as Mori while addressing it

the biggest problem right now is just a lack of consistency, the fact that she starts taking some stuff as granted when she doesn't mess up for a while and then immediately slips up cause of that

このスレッドでは英語を話さないことを忘れないでください。カリオペ森は英語が嫌いです。

>>23845269
I'm putting my love to my MenheraWolf instead. Especially now that Sophie is alive again.

>>23845312
nice DeepL

>>23845318
You're still around, huh

>>23845302
>it came to me in a dream

>>23845309
This. If she wants asspatters she should stop specifically saying that she doesn't want asspatters. She can take criticism.

>>23845389
she pressured herself into doing 4

>>23845424
She wanted to do four.

>>23845293
good overall, yeah
but it included a lot of incredibly newbie mistakes that one shouldn't expect or accept from the person with an artist mark
especially when the other three people, without said marks, delivered above expectation

she is supposed to be a star, but it felt like she kinda had a diva moment where she walked on the scene after the support bands gave their all and kinda delivered the 'this is below my notice, let's get done with this' kind of perfomance
tl;dr: diva moment

>>23844462
this guy sounds like an obnoxious faggot

>>23845348
Well, I was always here. Also am just glad that she's beginning to believe again.

She's given me a good option When Mori, Mooms or Gura aren't around. She's my go-to RPG stream

>>23845468
He's a necessary obnoxious faggot

>>23845424
No one forced her to do that. Even /here/ didn't mention it.

>>23845456
fuck, I wrote diva moment twice
guess that phrase just burned in my brain

>>23845499
>>23845468
A Necessary Evil, mayhaps.

>>23845499
He's not the only one who left a similar message. Stop celebritizing him. It's cringe

>>23845309
In that regard I was kind of worried when she said "I'm happy if things stay the way they are now". In the moment of unpacking stream it was nice, but if this is the quality she's happy being at for performances as Mori, it's kind of disappointing

>>23845506
maybe you had a diva moment

>>23845536
Kek, beat me to it

>>23845238
>ahh 私 致死的 Streamer
>a sneaky devil dream eater
>ahh 私 致死的 Streamer
>a sneaky devil death dealer
What did she mean by this?

>>23845506
Diva moment just makes me picture AZKi sex, I'm sorry
Now when is the AZKi/Mori song collab

>>23845597
Not sure but it's hot as fuck and makes me wanna dance

>>23845539
I wasn't thrilled about it either. I like her ambition as Mori.

She was excited by tries to portray a calmness. Like she wants to be professional but then admits you will see her mess up, but bounce back.
I think she gave a decent performance even with flubs. That's live music for you.
As always, put things in perspective: if the worst thing to worry about it her needing to restart a song or stumbling through a verse, then are things bad? Don't put everything under a microscope. Step away from the individual trees and see the beautiful forest.

remember to love your Mori

>>23845539
>>23845669
You fuckers should be extremely grateful Kronii didn't invite Mori for the Whiplash watch along. I'm sad she didn't given the arc we just got out of when that watch along happened.

Making stupid typos now. That's a sign it's time for shuteye.

>>23845781
She's already seen it.

>>23845692
It wasn't bad. It's only disappointing because she's said over and over that music is her biggest passion, and yet her performances at these always feel underprepared.

are you still ghost after yesterday?

>>23845692
Considering the time in which she probably recorded this. I wouldn't be surprised if "other" music was given priority for practice (which is stupid because she had a long time to record this). Considering she practices even for normal karaokes, this just felt a bit weird for her and she leaned way too heavily into the "live-show scuff" excuse. She even tried to make a "running out of time" excuse despite it being pre-recorded

>>23845875
they're not live, she's been in front of audiences now, that's all she cares about

>>23845885
yes
but part of going ghost is wishing to see her at her best
if she was just another entertainer for me, I wouldn't really give a shit for flubs or mess-ups, hell, I wouldn't really give a shit about her health or her relations with her family
but I do love this girl and her story and I want the best for her and from her, even if there's nothing romantic about it

>>23845885
My Mori is a dumbass who seems to misinterpret the idea of YT music weekend to this day. But her singing still has been as good as it’s even been so that’s nice.

Someone linked it a while ago, but her Twitch Dokomi performance was a much smaller event AND was live, but she seemed much better prepared for that and put on basically a flub-free performance (with no mid performance lyric lookups).

>>23845692
Nah, I had fun too. It's just that it's a strange decision not to put on your best face after being shilled to millions in NYC of all places (btw there is at least one new fan who was roped in by this, judging by the comments). And sure, the gamble worked out in the end 'cause it was a fun little concert, but the thing is that the risks weren't necessary in the first place.
's just weird, man.

>>23845885
Implying I ever stopped

>>23846144
It really might be her mentality around it.

>>23846144
It's unironically just a yt weekend problem. I don't know why she keeps saying yes if she has no enthusiasm for it.

You anti fakebeats pretending to be deadbeats got me so mad that I beat my dog and now it can't walk. I hope you're satisfied.

>>23846144
That performance happened while the roommate was basically inactive, her passion is elsewhere now that she got re-addicted to shitty "club" venues

>>23846240
Yeah yeah, go fly your airliner into a building or whatever

>>23845885
Unshaken. It's not like this scuffed performance was at all unexpected.

>>23846247
Before addressing how dumb this is conceptually, it's also immediately invalidated by the fact that this was easily her best of the three, two of which were pre-revival

>>23845597

>>23846271
It is kind of sad though that we all expected it to be scuffed.

>>23845981
>>23846187
>>23846271
based same

Stop replying to bait and check this out

>>23846144
Weren't they forced to do a dozen hours of rehearsals for that?

>>23846359
No, you're thinking of AX

>>23846357
Do they even make lizards that big?

Please post your favourite Mori image

>>23846394
still hasnt been topped

>>23846357
Anon we talked about this... not everything you disagree with is bait

>>23846382
Ah, my bad
Still, fuck all you niggers trying to push it under le roommate bad angle

>>23846359
Dokomi is where she sang EoaL live for the first time and debuted the lo-fi Bully version. It was fantastic

>>23846394
I can't choose just one

She gets into this weird middle ground when it's not live but also not recorded in a studio. I think that's when she tries to read the mood of a crowd that's not there, and gets no feedback. So maybe she could treat them a little more planned & using good takes, but it's also not a big deal since these events are rare.
As foe first impressions. I think anyone interested in looking her up found studio stuff first then maybe the YT music weekend.

>>23846394
It changes all the time, hard to choose one.

>>23845885
I'm more just seething at the fact that despite working together arguably more than anyone else, there is yet to single collab with THHK.

Eoal live still gets me

>>23846394

I...

>>23846533
Natsume has already done more and better work with Mori than that hack has ever done

>>23846533
I wish I could get my hands on this motherfucker and crack his skull open

Do your JP reps in preparation for tomorrow instead of dwelling on it. Just hope she doesn't ignore the legitimate criticisms

>>23846394
I would but I'd get an ABAYO

>>23846655
I just wonder when she recorded this. I don't think it was done just this week so it must've been before her trip to America.

>>23846655
What is she really going to do? She got similar criticism last time, and doesn't seemed to have changed much at all in how she approaches these.

>Instead of watching her "mess"
>she watches Fucking Rocket League

>>23846394
even without the soundpost it makes me ghost out

>>23846631
you would post-humorously turn him into a martyr.

>>23846895
actually I don't even want it for Mori reasons. I just think he's a faggot

>>23846419
I know, but there still is some scattered between the legitimate complains

Dead on Arrival didn't click with me too much at first but now it's stuck in my head. Also dayum, those rapid raps in UnAlive with the vocal effect, flowing flawlessly into the slower parts. Good stuff.

>>23846870
Are you just making things up now?

Electro swing will never be good

>>23847052
it really depends on how you do it

>>23847052
I got into it long before I got into Mori

>>23847052
Yeah, well. Da Dae skipbbidy bop.

>>23847173
This is the real truth. BGV unironically mogs FT when it comes to creativity in the electroswing they've done. Fra is also just straight up better than Ao lyrically

>me 10 years ago: wow this is a cool song i shall check out more of this genre
>entire genre is just that song, permanently, forever

alright thats cool

>>23847277
This. BGV is banging while FT always sounds the same.

>>23847277
>Fra is also just straight up better than Ao lyrically
i don't know anywhere near enough jp to judge the actual lyrical content but every aspect of fra's voice blows ao's out the water

imho him and romonosov are a huge cut above everyone else in her sphere

>>23847173
The most creative take on it was Caravan's Palace third album and even then that probably barely counts as electrro swing at that point

the single electroswing song that doesn't suck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V81DlvZkxGE also mori please play OFF on stream thanks

>>23847285
I agree for the most part, but DoA throws in a lot more tone shifts and does a good job. I've enjoyed it far more than anything her "inspiration" has made

>>23845302
Here's the magic part. They're not. They only feel like that because if what you've read here, no one else gives a fuck how many member streams she does.

>>23847052

>>23847341
They also branch out and really push themselves with genres. Crown is a really underrated song and I really love how it's basically them cheering each other on, wish Mori fell in with their group more instead of the gaijin circle she gravitated to

>>23847529
Crowned is fantastic, I actually prefer it to GYS

>>23847529
Crown has one of the best rap verses Mori has ever written imo.

>>23846895
Of what? Being an asshole?

>>23847424
More like they only feel like that because of Mori's own pressure on herself.

>>23847608
Inspiration to a great artist (as the shit he did to overwork her gets swept under the rug) maybe?

List of great rappers Mori should know and pay respects to, as a rapper (list contents subject to update):
1. LIL B THE BASED GOD

That's it for now

>>23847052
bro just listen to what makes your brain go wheee, who needs taste just enjoy

>>23847565
I agree, GYS is just too reaper character themed for my taste. I have the same problem with RIP and TGRisLS to an extent.

>>23847862
Mori doesn't make 90s to 00s pop-punk though

>>23847962
Amusing picture that shows juxtaposition of two opposites - one is an avatar of death, the symbol of end of everything, a grim reminder of inevitable doom that will at some point meet everything in universe. Distressing, grim, somewhat disgusting - but mostly terrifying.

And on the left there's Mori.

>>23847962
cuuuuuute
>>23848044
kek

>>23845238
Mori Calliope, aka the Rapping Reaper, aka Grim Shady, aka Dr. Slay, aka MC MC, aka Death's Beautiful Voice.

Y'know judging from watching others Youtube Music Weekend streams the point isn't to be the best but to have fun or to experiment with things. (Reine's 3D DJing, Ollie's Indonesian-translated Holo songs, Roboco's singing along with the Holo lo-fi mix in the previous Youtube Music Weekend). You can still levy your criticisms or whatever, but something I just noticed.

Holy shit, my dude went OFF

>>23848495
that's too far, that sort of comment just triggers her adversarial stubborn nature

>>23848495
Holy shit, dude is mad. This kind of comment goes too far though.

>>23848495
Call him a nigger, Mori
Do it for me

>>23848571
Rav is a special kind of idiot who does this stuff occasionally. He's called unalive entirely unlistenable to only to lecture others about not being hyperbolic. He also prides himself on being able to keep his moth shut when it matters (lmao)

Reading the comments, what's this about Rocket League?

*huffs copium*
Okay, on second thought, maybe it's a good thing.
I mean, if this was the first time some people would see Mori, this provides a good gist of what to expect from her streams in general.
So let's chill, aye?

>>23845302
You don't like anything.

>>23848725
peepeepoo man is streaming RL

>>23848495
Mori boutta learn "you will never roast me better than I roast myself" isn't so true after all

>>23848725
this reads like something you'd see posted here

>>23848828
It literally was
>>23846870

>>23845885
Yesterday? The performance was today? What ?

>>23848900
Unpacking was a very good stream

All the top comments are all you did great kween!, you must be digging deep for the negative ones. Like what are the odds she'll even see those

>>23848789
so she's pretending to be interested in something because her oshi is streaming it?

>>23848495
That's not really going off, that's just being a snarky cunt.

>>23848882
wow, even the timestamps match up

>>23848963
I don't know anything other than what I said. I believe it's just an assumption she was there

>>23848952
Probs just refreshing recent, and she'll see them she intentionally hunts this shit down

>>23846240
Kys.

>>23848969
Is there a difference for your average faggot that acts like a twitter cunt?

Next Youtube Music Weekend she should just do Barvarian yodelling and a-capella Kraftwerk and other intentionally bad/weird shit to cause some maximum seethe.

>>23848789
Was she really there instead? At the same time as the premiere? I don't follow the guy, but that's a pretty poor look if true.

>>23848963
There's been nothing on 'that' side on RL.
People are getting mad about hypotheticals now.

the billboard thing really makes it worse imo

>>23849075
as I said, I don't know anything other than what I said. I don't think there's any way of knowing she was there, just an assumption.

>>23845468
I agree. The core of his message is fine but the way he words things is so fucking obnoxious. It comes off as a parent wagging their finger at you.

>>23849133
>>23849075
I don't know anything about it (I'm only hearing it from here) but Twitch shows logged in viewers I think. so maybe that.

I made two versions of this soundpost, which one is better; this longer one?

>cries over Kiara
>"Eh, maybe I'll text her later"
>cries over TTRPG friend
>immediately contacts her
Mori... please treat Kiara like a close friend...

>>23849099
She didn't know about that until after the recording was done.

>>23849177
she would have to have a public account that she made a comment on with that was seen. I think only the Mori side has a twitch account

>>23849180
or this shorter one?

>>23849075
Why? What's wrong with that?
Why is this shit so important?

>it's another ryonabeats are trying to induce another enthusiasm arc episode

>>23849216
His gift sub leaderboard says otherwise

>>23849180
>>23849222
I think the shorter one works better

>>23849202
most likely, also, as someone in another thread pointed out, times square ads aren't that hard or expensive to put out for a major corporation like youtube, or even just fans or Ina or Kronii

>>23849216
>she made a comment
I remember someone showing that twitch admins were watching a pirate stream of some pay per view boxing event that's why I remembered

>>23849281
that account was deleted like a year ago

Who gives a crap about this YouTube thing anyway. The important thing are albums.
Why do y'all get your panties in a bunch ?

>>23845902
>I wouldn't be surprised if "other" music was given priority for practice
If by "other" you mean the other music projects for UMG and under wraps projects that she's working on as Mori, then yes I agree. Since she told us that she has a lot on her plate and that she wants to keep some of those projects secret for now, I will give her the benefit of the doubt.

>>23848495
>1+ year member
>feels entitled to act like a whiny faggot
wish she would kick these people out

>>23849384
the important thing for music performer is their musical performances
going 'no, not those!' is kinda cope, it's not like this is a random drunk karaoke set, it's a promo event

>>23848495
>being this mad

>>23849384
People just like to find reasons to bash Mori. They also expect people to be perfect 24/7 and never make mistakes ever.

>>23849384
You're fighting a losing battle when even discordfags are calling her out about her lack of preparation and phoning it in.

>>23849075
>le bad look meme
I know right? How DARE this bitch have any leisure time!

>>23849482
people expect the musician Holo to deliver excellence in the music department
are you really arguing people wouldn't speak up if Suzy or AZKi started messing up their lyrics or frantically look them up on google during a promotional?

>>23849202
Yeah, probably. Still, the creative decision not to take advantage of the pre-recorded nature of the thing has yet to make any sense.

>>23849539
Deadbeats don't watch other holos, let alone JPs.
The person you're responding to doesn't know who AZKi is

>>23849180
>>23849222
longer for me

>>23849506
Anyone that says something along the lines of "bad look" is a woman, and I will not give them any attention

>>23849485
Nigga I know you hate the discord but it's always been a 'do as I say not as I do place'

>>23849466
No! Albums are the important thing. DragonForce can't perform their songs live and nobody cares. Their albums are still top notch. And that's what people will remember. Janis Joplin couldn't play his own music and he's is still a great composer.

>>23849284
>>23849596
I'm glad I made both then

>>23849592
>deadbeats don't watch other Holos, let alone JPs
Hello tourist, the door is over there

>>23849592
see >>23848473

New Boogey Voxx cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6-zzGBtklw

>>23849647
Ah, I must have skimmed over the updated cope. Thanks

>>23849601
Based eloquentbeat, I will do as you do.

>>23849539
>are you really arguing people wouldn't speak up if Suzy or AZKi started messing up their lyrics
Nah I'm sure that's happened and they just played it off. People make mistakes, its what makes us human. If you want a perfect experience 100% go back to vocaloids

>>23849592
while some may claim that they don't watch JP's

I watch people like Miori and Ririsya actually give a damn and put 100% of themselves towards anything they do.

>>23849662
Looking for anything to bitch about because it's the /morig/ meta isn't any better than being the deplorable discord/twitter asspatter.

>>23849601
Same with "bad faith" and "mask off"

>>23849676
you know what can make you avoid majority of mistakes and present your best sides?
prerecorded content

>>23849592
>Deadbeats don't watch other holos, let alone JPs.
God I love when you idiots expose yourselves so easily

>>23849647
>New experiment to see if forgetting the lyrics mid song and having to restart will make it sound better

Bold move lets see if it sets a new trend

>>23849466 #
No! Albums are the important thing. DragonForce can't perform their songs live and nobody cares. Their albums are still top notch. And that's what people will remember. Scott Joplin couldn't play his own music and he's is still a great composer.

GODDAMMIT I GOT BAITED AGAIN WHEN WILL I EVER LEARN MY LESSON

>>23849704
Fact of the matter is they need to stay relevant. Mori's able to be casual and make flubs like this because she's already made it big.
Smaller streamers are motivated to give it their all because they need to.

HACHI often bumbles on songs and laughs it off during her usual streams, but whatever event she participates in, she gives her all and if she feels unsure, she brings stuff she feels confident in so even last minute prep or stress can't overcome the practiced craft
would just like to see that from Mori too

>>23849772

>>23849741
Do you expect me to click on your black rectangle every time you post it?
Do you think this is some scathing comeback I'll feel bad about?
You're so stupid you can't even smug_anime_girl.jpg properly.

>>23849783
I tried to warn you man, why didn't you just check out the funny looking lizard?

>>23849789
So...you are saying Mori has gotten complacent and lazy with her success? That is your defense?

>>23849845
I'm not defending her? I'm just pointing out what I think is happening

>>23849833
Because despite my bitching, I truly believe the power of criticism can be used for good. But in the end, I was the one that got criticized myself.

We unironically need someone like Miori in EN3, just to keep Mori on her toes. This level of complacency is stupid.

>>23849601
>is a woman, and I will not give them any attention
Huh? Am I missing something? Why does it matter whether an anon is a woman? I have seen garbage posts from both men and women on this board.

>>23849789
That is a terrible argument. The entire premise of Red is to not get complacent

>>23849845
This corpo shill event is not important at all. What matters is to produce great albums, not the "live performance"

>>23849867
a tale as old as time

>>23849876
honestly, the way she speaks about Suisei gives me hope that she inspires herself even a bit with her standards
but it's a working process

>>23849907
Then why bother participating at all then? You realize your arguments only make Mori look worse right?

>>23849845
No because she never gave a shit about yt music weekend to begin with. I wish she would stop accepting if she's not going to put in a little effort though. It was pretty obvious she didn't even rehearse since she didn't have her lyrics ready to go.

>>23849823
>Do you think this is some scathing comeback I'll feel bad about?
No I just like laughing at your retardation. I don't really care how you feel about it. I just find it funny.
>every time you post it?
This is the first time I have posted that soundpost in at least a month rumao

>>23849941
She got so inspired she has more stuff planned already.
Just not as Mori.

I wonder if the billboard made her feel too guilty to show up to chat knowing she submitted a bit of a low-effort performance?

>>23849876
How is she complacent? Have you seen how much music she has released this year? Both as Mori and as alter? How can anybody call her complacent with a straight face?

>>23849592
>Deadbeats don't watch other holos, let alone JPs
Kek, fucking tourists exposing themselves. You love to see it.

>>23849988
>No
Stopped reading there fyi I know you're very excited to use 4chan after discovering it through the lean thing, but you need to lurk a bit longer before posting ok?

>>23849867
>I truly believe the power of criticism can be used for good.
In principal I agree. However you need to adjust your mindset when it comes to this split in particular. It's possible to weed out the shitters and bait to have genuine conversations but it takes more effort than normal.

>>23850020
Post dripping with impotent rage

>>23849883
The stereotype goes that women are especially vile/insecure in that they look for perceived slights and offenses where there are none, and in turn care too much about impressions and appearances knowing they will be subject to the same treatment by other women, who will psychoanalyze the shit out of their every single glance, gesture, word or move, or lack thereof.

Those idiots at TT have left an indelible mark on her psyche.

>I'm just lucky
>I-It's not my talent, I was also Lucky
>You must be working "sooo hard"

>>23850065
>It's possible to weed out the shitters and bait to have genuine conversations but it takes more effort than normal.
you can but honestly it's not even worth it at this point

>>23849965
>No because she never gave a shit about yt music weekend to begin with
And that's a good thing.

>>23850011
>Write some lyrics for two hours
>Record once because fuck multiple takes
>Dump it on a mixer
>Take a vacation
>Repeat

So much work, its a miracle she can find time to eat and breathe with all that going.

>>23850105
>[Deleted]
lol

>>23850011
Quantity =/= Quality.

>>23850034
No cap frfr

>Reine went above and beyond and memorized 20+ Holo song lyrics
>Ollie memorized and translated lyrics
>Risu clearly warmed up and put on the best vocal performance with good editing between songs
>Mori clearly had a backlog of things to do and rushed this out before she left for US
It is what it is, bad time management on her part most likely

>>23850087
You're not wrong. The amount of effort you need to go through nowadays usually ain't worth it.

>>23849907
>advertising is not important for a business
This must be a falseflag designed to make deadbeats look even more retarded than we are.
It has to be.

>>23850198
She was working on Note still before she left, wasn't she?

Look at the manchild scream at his screen, he wants to punish those who made him feel bad but he can't! How tragic...

>>23850065
>It's possible to weed out the shitters and bait to have genuine conversations but it takes more effort than normal
The lean yab and its consequences were a disaster for this split.

>>23850114
Holy fuck are you ignorant. Writing lyrics is not done in two hours, it takes a lot of work to come up with good lyrics, and then to correct them and rewrite them. You have to make them fit the music too.

The musical arrangment, mixing and recording are all lengthy, hard and complicated processes.

>>23850198
eh, Reine has done better. Still a kino performance from her though and from Mori in the latter half for that matter

>>23850078
>they look for perceived slights and offenses where there are none
>will psychoanalyze the shit out of their every single glance, gesture, word or move, or lack thereof.
My nigga...did you not just describe most of this board?

>>23850223
It's art first and business second, and advertisement is not important for art.

>>23850250
The lean yab was literally nothing lmao. People trying to make it a thing are literally just antis.

>>23850277
There's a reason shitposters are called "/vt/sisters"

>>23850198
It's literally the third time she's put in the same minimum amount of effort. She needs someone to run her schedule.

>>23850277
Well...

>>23850084
Nah, that's just being a realist. You can be born into wealth, or work your ass off and achieve fuckall.

>>23850250
Without a fucking doubt

>>23850122
?? Her music is of high quality. Are you deaf ?

>>23850308
Yeah I think she spreads herself too thin. She basically exhausts herself trying to do too much, and then can't put all her energy into everything.

>>23850301
it was easy to dramatize and fucking funny, so it drawn the worst kind of threadshitters

>>23850308
it really isn't a good look. If she wants have her cake and eat it, she should be responsible for BOTH sides. I'm not against her giving the other side a rub, but She has to perform above expected.

People who know, already know that there's a gap between the her enthusiasm on each side.

>>23850256
>Good lyrics

So not applicable for UnAlive then? Also yes the arrangement and mixing are lengthy and complicated processes, that Mori is not apart of because if she were it wouldn't be a coinflip on if we can hear her over the track or not. Also

>recording

if this (and UnAlive EN for that matter) are any indication she isn't an artist who does multiple takes so I guess she got lucky she got usable recordings the first time.

>>23850277
No. If you actually try to run the numbers, you'll see those "people" are an extremely small minority. They just stick out to you 'cause their uncloaked venom seeps into your brain and accumulates over time.

>>23850301
You missed the point of that post. It's not about the incident itself, but its fallout on the threads. In reality, it's actually the fallout on a small number of hypersensitive deadbeats, just like how it's a small amount of overdramatic threadshitters who take things to the other extreme. We had a reasonable conversation about this towards the end of the last thread, and now things are spiraling out of control because of the same people in those two camps baiting each other into the exact same arguments over and over again.

>>23850451
You are an anti. Unalive was great.

So what streams do you guys plan on watching today? Anyone gonna watch Goomba's Blue Archive stream?

there's actually no difference psychologically between shit-stirrers and asspatters, they're both just fixated on a different thing
true victims of the thread are honest deadbeats (like myself)

>>23850250
It was also pretty fucking funny. Your boy is a bit of a comedy genius sometimes.

>>23850643
I gotta catch up on the rest of Vampire Survivors since I got called in to cover a shift that day.
I still had an earpiece in at work but I wanna watch it for real

>>23850582
Sad thing is he might not be. The Deadbeat criticism to anti-ammunition pipeline is real and something we should working to address

>>23850582
You say she cares SO MUCH about her music when she can't even hit all the notes in the Title Track of her own album despite being in studio "for the whole day" and she just went with whatever to the detriment of the final product.

>>23850643
Yeah I was planning on watching Goomba. Speaking of, how long has it been since Mori did a sponsored stream? Feels like a long time.

>>23850643
Every stream, every day
Just like I always do

>>23850655
>Muh psychology,
kys fakebeat.

>>23850773
ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ytHNCSTNY

>>23850655
I'm an honest Dead Beat and I thought the concert was fun and that people are extrapolating shit over minor things, as usual

>>23850791
Omnipotentbeat...I kneel...

>>23850643
I'm going to watch Fauna's ASMR stream.

>>23850783
Kronii readalong

>>23850813
yeah I already know that Mori hates mentally ill people (despite being deeply unsettled herself) but you shouldn't say things like that

>>23850783
Manga reading was the last one iirc so like 2 months?

>>23850830
Omniscient is the proper word in that context.
Omnipotent is the default state of deadbeats.

Post Moris instead of being retarded

>>23850823
It was nice, if it was a random karaoke the complaints would be really minor
but being a promo event and a prerecorded event, the causes for the complaints really shouldn't have been there

>>23850842
>>23850847
Yeah I just remembered that. Has that been her only sponsored stream this year?

>>23850783
I think the last sponsored stream she did was that manga reading one with Kronii. Which was like a monthish ago? I don't remember the exact time.

>>23850823
It was fun, could have easily been better by spending 10-20 extra minutes on it though.

>>23850295
I don't think you understand how companies and music labels work.

>>23850643
I still have a couple hours left in the Unpacking VoD, and after that it's Fauna's Hypnospace VoD.

>>23850892
It's no more important than a random Karaoke, the whinners ITT are nuts

>>23851009
>and after that it's Fauna's Hypnospace VoD.
Oh shit I need to watch that myself. Thanks for the reminder.

>>23850975
I don't think you understand how art works

>>23850893
I think so yeah, pretty sure the Shadowverse thing with IM wasn't sponsored.

>>23851027
that's cope anonchama, by the end of the day it's a promo event from the platform
it's not a live, but it's also not a random karaoke

>>23851051
It was fun, Hamsters might replace grasshopers as enemy #1

>>23851027
That's the other thing I don't really get about this reaction. It's hosted on her channel. The viewership is hardly any different (arguably less, even). It may be a sponsored event, but the audience is the same as it's always been.

>scuffing up Empress
THIS BITCH
>>23850643
still catching up with the concert, 's fun

>>23848495
>discordbeat finally snapped
We are in interesting times

>>23851027
It's a perfectly valid criticism to think that she could have re-recorded the scuffed parts and had the lyrics on hand while at the same time calling out the sanctimonious assholes throwing insults disguised as criticism.

>>23850643
Ame members and whatever's on after

>>23851213
there's only one sanctimonious group here and it ain't the critics

>>23851027
What kind of cope is this? It was an advertised event and obviously, based on that advertisement, Mori was meant to be hololive's headliner performance. She phoned it in. It's embarrassing as a fan for her to look that unprofessional when she literally puts more effort into those random karaokes.

>>23851251
yeah it's me

>>23851070
"Artistic value" goes out the window when money is involved. It's a product.

soundbeat, I implore you - while I was kinda whelmed by this, I still think the high points (SUA, eoal, Cursed Night) deserve to be soundposted

It is interesting to be able to place names to posts when they rehash the same critiques using the same language as their comment.

>>23851271
fuck off bishopbeat, get ready for the mass

>>23848495
Unironically just /morig/ discourse at this point

>>23851027
Right, so that's why I see underrated performers treat it as their one opportunity to get noticed and give it their all. Fuck off.

>>23851402
Both of them are /here/ so, yeah

>>23851027
Well, it was a prerecorded karaoke. So why not cut out the scuff? Hell, hire someone to do it if you can't be bothered yourself, you got infinite money.

>>23851388
I have a feeling you're talking about me when I've never left an YT comment lol

>>23851340
Yeah I can do that. I did like those even if I was also whelmed by it as a whole.

>>23851213
>>23851266
It was not important and not worth Mori's time. Yeah, it may have been a little scuffed, but nobody cares outside this thread.
You are acting as if she brought infinite shame to Hololive bu nobody cares about this thing.
Her songs are still great, her streams are great. She works very hard, but the day still has only 24 hrs, and she can't be perfect all the time. She's a human being and has the right to make some mistakes.
Trust Mori or fuck off.

>>23851402
kek

>>23851284
No it doesn't. Who gives a fuck about Money? Mori has enough money already.

>>23851506
Can you still pass it off as a mistake if she's done the same thing three times in a row? And judging by the comments there are at least some people that do care outside of this thread.

>>23850084
Your post formatting is so fucking retarded that I thought you were a /biz/ spambot for a second there. Seriously stop with that shit.

>>23851433
I don't care about them at all. And neither should you.

>>23851433
Be honest: no one in hololive needs this event for exposure.

>>23851569
Except this is the best Music Weekend she's done over three years now

>>23851506
>not worth Mori's time

>>23851484
That feels really self centered lmao. Anon no one can tell who you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K04VPtkg4Ho
What the FUCK is her problem?

>>23851484
based paranoidbeat
>>23851388
hiya

>>23851652
Dumb woman hormones

>>23851569
>implying those fags aren't from /here/ that are breaking containment

>>23851652
At least we can all agree clipfags should be rounded up and shot.

>>23851601
I'll give you Mori not really, she still wants to grow, if only out of curiosity now but IDs need all the exposure they can get.

>>23851688
This.

>>23851607
that's the good news
the bad news is how low of a bar this became

>>23851688
They are

>>23851506
>but nobody cares outside this thread
Nigga even discordbeats are waking up. This is not just /here/ thing anymore.

>>23851402
>policebeats can't help but police outside of the thread too
Holy mother of obsessed

>>23851607
Not exactly a high bar, that one.
She could have opened spotify and let it play while staring blankly at the camera for 30 minutes and done that.

>>23851705
Go watch your oh so precious underrated independents that "give it their all", and fuck off.

>>23851688
The usual suspects sure but that one guy isn't.

>>23851708
>low bar
Yeah man, the Youtube Music Weekend sure is the be-all and end-all of performances

>>23851777
And the mask slips off, anti.

>>23851784
no, I mean being better than her last two MWs is not a high bar, those were scuffed too, tho I'd say the first one was generally the most consistent one and her voice wasn't notably shot

>>23851735
>discordbeats
who gives a fuck

>>23851753
I just like shitposting at people

>>23851402
Why is there so much autism in the vtuber community?

>>23851784
People can say yt music weekend doesn't matter, but it was a shot to advertise her music and live show to at least a bit of a new audience. That performance wouldn't inspire me to get tickets to her live show if I didn't already know how Mori is.

>>23851784
This. Talk to me when she does a scuffed HoloFes performance, hell I will be the first to complain and leave critical comments.

Don't bother me for this nothing burger

>>23851777
>IDs
>independents
Anon...

>>23851809
The pot calling the kettle black.

>>23851889
You have to be some level of autistic to spend hours a day watching anime women play video games.

>>23851753
He's just ribbing him, tismo

>>23851849
Probably when even those people who are known as a yesmen of all yesmen are starting to complain is when you can't even say anymore it is just here thing.

>>23851849
>who cares about vtbeats
>who cares about discordbeats
>who cares about twitterbeats
>who cares about commentbeats
...you know, if at some point you got to ignore all people that actively TALK about your content, there might be a problem?
like this is some nu-Star Wars logic where whatever goes as long as enough people buy tickets, fandom churn be damned

>>23851889

>Autistic Vtuber
>Autistic fans of Autistic Vtuber

The world may never know.

Are we just going to keep looping the same thread all day?

>>23851652
Moririn................................

>>23851984
What If they are all wrong though?
The important thing is being right, not pleasing the crowd.
What if they all told Mori to graduate, will you agree with them?

Feels like we were pretty content to leave the autism in the last thread before some shitter decided to repost his YT comment here.

>>23851984
Is your oshi Mori or the deadbeats ?

>>23851968
>>23851984
>a few voices of complaints surrounded by a sea of other people enjoying the stream
>see, even they're turning against her now!

>>23852044
>not pleasing the crowd

She is a musician, an entertainer, her whole thing is to please and entertain the crowd. There is no "being right" in a profession like that.

requesting Milky Queen at a glory hole get to it artists

Stream had some scuff that should be pointed out. Stream also had praise worthy moments that she should be happy with. Can we agree with this summary and move on?

I had the mental image of Mori brushing Bae's hair earlier. I thought it was nice.

>>23852056
That shitter? Me. I accidentally a 6-hour nap and woke up to the VOD, a new thread and a bunch of comments.
I'm not the one falseflagging as a yesbeat right now though, so I'm not sorry.

>>23851607
>three years
dyslexicbeat...

>>23852157
He's technically correct.

>>23851909
Considering there's a live coming up she's rehearsing for, I'm not really that bothered about fucking YT music weekend of all fucking things

>>23852183
The best kind of correct

>>23850573
Pretty much this. The incident in itself was a nothingburger, but the reactions to it and the threadshitting that ensued were what made it an overall catastrophe.

>>23851909
get ready for the anon claiming 'live performances don't matter' to call you an anti at that point because 'her only concern should be albums'
I honestly find it kinda amusing that deadbeats heard Mori getting hyped about Suisei's professional font and wanting to be more like her for like two months but don't understand some people just wish she followed up on that

>>23852206
You are correct, but ficklebeats don't listen to reason.

If you guys take this to the next thread, I'm posting THAT

>>23852325
Ok anti

>>23852294
what will become the next goalpost location if she messes up during the Live or V-Carnival?

>>23852325
There are so many THAT's idk what you are talking about in this context

>>23852325
Better post it now or I'll restart the timeloop out of curiosity.

>>23851882
ok marcus.

>>23852292
>understand some people just wish she followed up on that
Stop trying to control her.

>>23851340

>>23852381
this response is so dumb it must be falseflagging

>>23852325
>You guys
It's just one ficklebeat disappointed at her performance and the rest of the thread destroying him.

>>23852096
If even in that circlejerk there is one guy complaining there are clearly cracks starting to appear. And you know what that means? More cracks.

>>23852428
Why?

>>23852435
Why do you type like a Kingdom Hearts villain?

>>23852433
Nah, fuck off. I am with him.

>>23852435
Mori's crack...
https://streamable.com/yof99j

>>23852479
I get into my chuuni mode when I am drunk.

>>23852475
>I wanna live up to X standard
>You're not living up to X standard
>AAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEE
there are two statements being made and then a completely off-the wall response that looks like taken from some female-dominated webroom

I do want to say that the vast majority of the people complaining are from /here/ (I am seeing some greys kinda bitch, but for all I know those might be burner accounts) I can't help but feel like maybe we got baited

>>23852435
or there's always been complaints gere and there but they usually get drowned out and not cherry-picked

>>23852563
>You're not living up to X standard
That's something for her to strive and decide, not for you to complain about and throw a hissy fit.

>get to Unalive
>the BGM is quieter than in all the other tracks
...But why?

I honestly don't know what's supposed to be wrong with admitting that taking a few minutes to better prepare and a little more effort to redo scuffed parts would likely make for a more quality stream while also acknowledging the good overall quality of said stream.

Jesus christ a lot of you are annoying. Aside from guh(which was kinda funny because of the song) and the start of empress the rest was great. Blowing up a couple fuckups on somethign tha had less views than a normal karaoke is dumb as fuck.

>>23849638
>>23849741
and >>23851777
conflicting messages here!

>>23852632
no, her not living to a given standard is a simple and objective statement that can be made based on things we can see
if she says 'I wanna be like Suisei when it comes to her professional approach' but then flubs stuff during events (which Suisei doesn't), that's a simple and direct comparison
you're not a better person simply through making a resolution, you become one through applying yourself to it

>>23852666
literally nothing wrong with that, but that's not how some people are expressing it, don't think that your post = >>23848495

>>23852569
>there
Lol no. They have to be pushed into saying something and usually is only if their mods agree.

>>23852666
1. You are giving it too much importance
2. The people here are acting as if the performance was a complete failure and a disgrace to Hololive and other Holomems (why even compare her with others?)
3. The comment section is being brigaded by antis.

>>23852719
Yeah and? That doesn't give you the right to go post nasty things on the YouTube comments as if she broke her promise with you.

>>23852706
>I'll egg the shitter on with an indirect reply, that'll make the thread better!
Will retardbeats ever learn?

She unironically put more effort today into her "collab" than she did this sponsored event

>>23852769
>comment section is being brigaded by antis
wrong, kys
>>23852860
also kys

>>23852821
obviously, nothing gives a right to post nasty comments at someone
but feedback just stating a fact is just that

>>23852860
that is an enormous lie and actual anti shit
that 'collab' had virtually 0 prep, literally not even the insight required to get the other party into the game

>>23852853
Deadbeats are fucking catty, on separate occasions I picked a fight with some of you (not about Mori) then when we were all like "ok whatever let's stop arguing" they'd bring it up 5 posts later

>>23852924
Meeyow, bitch.

>>23852860
I like the other side and even I disagree with that. She had like four hours of sleep, played a game with notoriously shitty online co-op with someone across an ocean and neither of them had any conversations whatsoever.
It was legitimately one of her worst streams I've ever seen on either side.

>>23852924
The answer is women, no man with more than 5mg of testosterone acts like that

>>23852666
Mori doesn’t prepare and she doesn’t redo anything. It’s her m.o. at this point. I just want a little more quality control.

>>23852741
are they also sperging out and spouting that 'Mori's gotten complacent and lazy'?

inner is playing the ring of eldens

>>23853000
At least it's on the right side of the issue

I'm glad next stream is JP only, they're some of her cutest

Inner cute
I didn't watch her in a while and I'm taken aback with how adorable she's being

>>23853097
Hard same.

>>23853000
>95% of YTbeats are male while all the women stick to 4chan for some reason
Right. Or you're just a cunt.

>>23852632
>Mori has investigated herself and found that she has committed no errors.
Carry on then.

>>23852917
>Feedback
>Blatant lies, outrage, exagerations, shit stirring
Yeah, thank you for your feedback "deadbeat"

She heard you guys and woke up at 6AM

>>23853118
What's she talking about? I'm listening to Fauna and watching her.

>>23852860
I gotta hard disagree on that. Despite that being her dream collab she was hardly prepared.

>>23853097
Shark.

>>23853139
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>>23853172
just being a cute dope in Caelid

>>23853178
He's straight tripping, I dunno why so many of you replied to that post seriously.

>>23853201
I think their point is that she has always made herself out to be someone who holds themselves to a high standard

I think we need to admit that she's gotten too complacent, otherwise she would've been up all night singing so that her tongue would be loose enough to reach farther into Kiara's ass when she rims her, let's hope she at least practices before June

>even the standardsposting is back
Holy fuck we timelooped hard today
Good work deadbros

>>23853266
I'm onto you Germanbeat. Kiara will find out eventually.

Maybe the reason why some people feel like her performance was a let down is because it came after the ID girls. Their performance wasn't perfect, but it felt like they gave it their best. Mori just kinda phoned it in, even if she had some good performances like Scuffed Up Age and End of a Life. Were the ID girls taking this event too seriously or was Mori not taking it seriously enough? Either way, I still feel like Mori could have done better

>>23853266
You had me in the first half, kek

>>23852999
All the comments were “I’m so happy you got to meet your idol desu”, not a single >that was great
>’quote’ was hilarious
>you guys have great chemistry
Kek

>>23853266
Was about to say that I disagree but then read the rest. Can't really say I disagree anymore.

>>23853319
Yeah, i like both sides and don't mind moistman, but it was pretty obvious this was 100% for herself and no one else which is fine it was done on her other channel.